August 22, 2022 • 38 mins
Former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam is in for Rob, and he and Chris explain why they don’t believe Kyrie Irving is an NBA superstar, and discuss why so many New York City point guards failed to live up to expectations in the NBA. Plus, former NBA All-Star Kenny Anderson swings by to discuss the new Showtime documentary ‘NYC Point Gods’, why he believes Kyrie could become the next Point God, why he believes he never reached his full potential, how he uses his own experiences to help the kids he coaches at Fisk University, and much more!
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the bottom of the hour, we have got Kenney Anderson,
former NBA All Star, now the men's basketball coach at
Fisk University of HBCU in Tennessee. And Kenny is one
of the best point guards ever to come out of
New York City and Kevin Durant produced this film NYC
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Point GUIDs and Kenny is a big part of it.
So we'll talk to him about that. But I'm looking
forward to Kenny Anderson was one of my favorite college players,
like ever. He was phenomenal and I actually thought he
was gonna be like the next Isaiah Thomas. Had a
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really good pro career, not a not a legendary one
like Isaiah Thomas. But will it'll be good to talk
with him. Kenny Anderson Chips his nickname, Well, he'll join us. Um,
let's get back to the NBA. Speaking of basketball, and
a lot of talk now about Kyrie Irving, because you
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know the Lakers, your team, they're trying to get him.
I don't think they will. I think he's gonna play
in Brooklyn this year. I think he's gonna ball out.
He's got no choice. I think he knows that and
he's gonna bring his a game and that that bowls
well for the Nets. But there was an interesting conversation
between Taylor Rooks, the fantastic reporter who covers the NBA,
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and Jason Tatum. I believe it was on her podcast,
I guess, but they were talking about Kyrie and Damian Lillard.
Here's the conversation. It's Kyrie Irving a superstar, yes, So okay,
do you want me to agree? Okay? Is Damian Lillard
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a superstar? I think that Damian has all of the
superstar qualities, but it's hard to put him in it
in this moment because of he just like needs a
little more, but obviously like he has that in him,
needs a little more. I mean, he's got to win,
He's got to get there like that. It to me,
that's about some of it. So all right, I'm gonna
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let you tackle this, okay, because we look baffled. Yeah,
because that's ridiculous. So that means John Moran is not
a superstar because by her further right, by by her
own you know, rules and an admission of what a
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superstar is, right, someone like John Mara, Steve Nash was
never a superstar, right, Like, so I don't know if
she I mean, I don't know what her criteria is
for being a superstar as winning championships, because that's not
what a superstar is, right right. Charles Barkley was a superstar.
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He never won a championship. How would you define superstar.
I would I would define superstar as box office. Right,
I'm showing up and I'm showing out. That's a great individual.
You're beyond great. That's a superstar, A phenomenal individual player
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like that guy right there, he's got it. And I
will say that I think you're a phenomenal individual player.
And you do have team success. Now you might not
win a championship, but you you know, because of you,
your team is really good. A superstar is marketable. Well, yeah,
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I think some guys that aren't superstars are marketable. I'm
gonna say that I would not call Kyrie a superstar either.
I think Kyrie is a celebrity. And I'm gonna I'm
gonna go further and that you might not agree with
this part. I think Kyrie because generally we would put
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legend above superstar. I think in most cases, okay, definitely,
But but I will say this, I do think Kyrie
Irving is going to be like a legend. He's even
though I don't. Well, but I think, and maybe I'm
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confusing a legend with iconic because people are going to
remember Kyrie Irving because I think by many people, if
not most people's estimation he's the best ball handler. Ever.
You're hearing more and more people say he's the most
skilled either point guard or player. Ever, I think player
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is going too far. Point Guard, you know, you want
to argue skill whatever. But because of his skill set,
his package, even though he hasn't delivered on it for
the most part. I shouldn't say for the most part,
even though he's not quite the player he could be
because of his off the court other stuff, yeah, the
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other stuff, right, but Kyrie, Like, I'm gonna compare him
to this, I think, and I would say Dave. I
don't think either one right now is a superstar, but
I do think if you're gonna rank their careers, I
think you have to rank Dames ahead of Kyrie's. Now,
does is Kyrie a better ball handler? Yes, it is Kyrie.
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The shooting is close. They're both clutch. You like, you
can argue Kyrie's got better skills. I actually think he
probably does. But who's had the better career? Damian Lillard?
And I'm gonna compare Kyrie to this. You know how
you got some rappers that are just dope. Remember cannabis, Yeah, canna, Yes,
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cannabis was dope. Period, right, but he didn't make, for
the most part, great songs, right, so he doesn't you know,
he doesn't go down. He's like, oh that's yeah. In
the streets, you know cats talking about just skills all that.
Oh you can't remember that cat Cannabis. He was crazy
Jay Electronica. Right, you might say the same thing about him,
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Big Big he got my gosh, he got killed, so
it just kind of different. But yeah, Big Hell was
redicud And I would even say, now he's made some
great songs, obviously, but Jada kiss right, if you're just
talking about skills, like people are gonna say, Jada, very few, right,
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very few could top Hill. Yes, he's crazy, but can
you rank him? There are many mcs you probably would
rank ahead of him just because they made more hits
and better, better just songs, even though he's a better
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lyricist and MC. And that's how I kind of look
at Kyrie, Like, if you want to say street Ball,
who have more skills? Who had the better package? Kyrie
or Lillard? I can't see you going with Kyrie, But
who had the better career? Who made the most trust? Right,
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I mean it's period, you gotta go with that. Damian
Lillard has had his own team for a decade and
they have been a very good alone and they never
won the championship, but they have gotten to the conference finals.
There they are generally a second round playoff team. And
he's done that. Kyrie has not shown that he could
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do that. Kyrie won would Lebron has wanted to do it,
not even like it just seemed like he could care
less when he's at his old team. It's been a disaster,
you know. And so that's how I kind of see Kyrie. Yeah,
it's um. You know, you could be a superstar and like,
you don't have to be a leader. You could be
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a superstar, right, you could be a Dans a superstar, right,
you know what I mean? But is he you know,
is he a leader of a team? No, Like, we
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gotta start handing out roses to everybody. Got a good crossover?
You can shoot off the back foot, right, everybody's greatest, honey.
We have a greatest score of all times. Remember that
James Harden is the greatest score ever? You right about?
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I'm like, come on, man, people don't remember how Michael
Jordan dismantled people. You want to talk about the greatest
score of all times? All right, it was him, This
man dismantled entire teams when you can literally put both
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of them, when you can literally put both of your
hands on a ball handler, right, you can set your
forearm in their hip. Right. So, when you want to
talk about scores above the ram, like, people have confused
the three point shot with oh right, like, oh, he's threes,
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he's got to be the greatest score of all that.
Step back three. It's gotta be the greatest of all time.
Right now, it's not. It's not. And we had the
opportunity to live to an era where we got to
see these players right right, the Jordan's the Kobe's right,
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we get to see the Lebrons. Lebron James was almost
the Finals MVP on the losing team, right right. So
you when you don't fall for the oky talk, look
at his hand. He can drip around anybody who show
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up to the game. Brother, please like and I get it.
And it's like we're just talking about the skill. But
it's hard to separate them. Alan Iverson was a superstar.
Alison was a super Come on now, right agree, one
of the greatest scorers. Please do you agree that Kyrie
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may go down as weather legend, icon whatever, because people
already talking about Kyrie and these highlow terms and I'm
with you or not a superstar. I think Kyrie has
been about seventy His friends are talking about him like that.
WHOW contemporaries His contemporaries Chauncey Phillips said he's the most
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skilled playing point because they see it from a different
What we're seeing is they've been in the gym with him, right,
they've been in the summer to see it the handle.
But the way we're comparing it is we need to
see it. Kobe played for twenty years. You got to
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see it every year, right through pain, injury, anything. We
get the Lebron's going on, you're a hundred, you get
to see it. You get what I'm saying. That's like
asking me if Anthony Davis and superstar. We don't get
to see it enough healthy you when he's healthy, no
one in basketball can guard him. But you're not anything.
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But even before that, people don't remember a few years
ago when he was in New Orleans, he started the
season off fifty ball, forty eight ball, thirty nine ball.
All was twelve and seemed like that guy anymore. But
I'm saying when that was. When he's healthy, right, he's unguardable.
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It's nothing you can do to stop him. But here's
what I would say, And again I'm in agreement Kyrie
nor Dame as a superstar at this point. But Kyrie
because of his unique ability, and I get the whole
you're right off the court, not showing up, just not
playing enough, being hurt, whatever you want to call it.
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But people are going to talk about him for decades.
You do it? Do you agree with that? Well, he's
dumb and he got movies. He got Uncle Drew movies.
Of course. Well, I'll just mean because of the movie.
There's a lot of reasons people are gonna talk about him,
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but they're gonna be talking about that handle, his finishing ability,
his moves. But I Taylor, I think she was wrong.
You have to put Dame ahead of Kyrie. I just think, look, man,
Kye is a tremendous player. Imagine if we could have
gotten to see Kyrie Irving play basketball consistently right, Imagine
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the conversation we'd be having right now. Like I said,
seventy percent of the player he could be seventy seventy.
I would agree with that. I would agree with that percentage.
He got time. He's got to see if he can, right,
if he can, he got a right, he definitely has to.
He told us, he told us that basketball wasn't that
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important to him. Those are these are his words, not mine. Right, Right,
I'm gonna do what's best for me. Basketball is only
this much of of of of of my life, right,
I'm going to I'm going to worry about this part
and not this part. Right. He told that, He told
that to us, So we're gonna believe him. No, you're right.
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And here's the thing. We know, we know. I think
we know Kyrie is gonna ball out this year, right
because he's gott it's a contract here. But here's the thing.
Even if he balls out, if I'm an opposing team
or heck, if I'm the Nets, I still got question marks.
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Yeah many, But I'm still like it unless we win
a championship or go to the finals, I'm not we No, no, no,
it's still a lie. Yeah, it's still gonna be people like, well,
once he gets the bag, is he gonna go back
to his old way? So we'll see. But let's start out.
You guys, I know you've been waiting. We haven't taken
calls all night, but now is your time to weigh in.
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Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Is Kyrie irvit
a superstar or not? I went legend icon not superstar though,
But y'all know what I'm saying. I think I explained myself,
But it's your turn away in is Kyrie is superstar?
And you can weigh in on Dame as well? Eight
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You're turning away in on Kyrie Irving? Is he a superstar?
You can tell us what you think about Damian Lillard
as well in comparison to Kyrie eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine. We got Toorell and Virginia
beat you on the eye couple. What you got? Hey,
thanks for taking a call. I love y'all show. Kyrie
is iconic, Kyrie is office. Kyrie is in my opinion,
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top five definitely top ten the year time on one time.
What does that mean? Top five? What of all time?
Or of point guard? Yeah? Current NBA player definitely my
time five player? Right now, please name you top five.
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When I look, I think he's a five. Health How
that's impossible? I mean really, how the year the year
Cleveland won the championship for six years ago, I remember
a game won the road. He scored sixty one points
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against San Antonio on the road. That makes him one
of the best five players in the league. Now now today,
how about how about this, He's definitely one of the
five player that I'm gonna turn my TV on the wall. Okay,
that's fine, that's fine, But he's the best. I agree,
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he's box office right, yeah, of course, of course when
we can see him right now, come on, top five. Look,
the biggest ky fan ain't saying these top five, so
he's he means he's better than Steph Jannis the Joker, Luca,
Kevin Durant, Joeling, Bid, Jason Tatum, Lebron right like he
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just put Kyrie in front of all of those players, ebid.
If y'all, I don't know if you said YEA said no,
you're right to me that that I mean, Look, I
love the call, but we're gonna move on. We got
Nick in South Carolina. You don't hear our couple? What
you got Nick? Hey, what's up, y'all? What up? What's up?
I appreciate y'all for taking my call. Man, I'm gonna
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have to I'm gonna have to disagree with y'all on
that one. Man. I think Kyrie Irvin is definitely a superstar.
Uh he might not be on the Lebron level and
the Yannis level super but might not. He isn't he's not.
He's not. He's not, he's not. But I feel like,
definitely he's on that. He's gonna. Let me ask you
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how many superstars are in the league, then I think
it's about a good So he's a top ten player,
top top, top top. I'm gonna give him if you were,
if you were gonna tell me there's twenty ish superstars. Okay,
you got a big broader definition. I say, okay, if
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you want to go there, I mean, I'm gonna get it.
He's a he's a like icon because of his way
he plays. But I just superstar. I don't. I'm not
gonna give him that yet. What I'm gonna put him as,
I'm gonna put him as this is what I'm putting
him as. I'm putt him as a cheer two superstar.
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I'm gonna put him at a tier two. He can
get to that tier well with Lebron Jannis. I think
he's on that Jason tape. He got the ability, but
he just got to make better song about a better record.
We haven't seen it though at any point, right, we
haven't seen that. Ye before we got on the mixtape
and was dupe and smashed it. Yeah, Kyrie got on
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Lebron's mixtape and stole the show. We can give him that,
but that don't make you a Grammy Award winning artist.
That's my point. That's a good point. That's a great
see what I'm saying. Yeah, that's a great point. He
was on me, Oh my god, this dude, this christ Yep.
That's a great point. But his own album really, dang,
we got we got Sam in Indiana. You're on the
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old couple. What you got? Thanks for taking my call, guys, show, Yeah,
thank you. Um, I had a question to ask you guys.
After I answer about Kyrie. Kyrie reminds me of hate
is wasting his talent. And it's not like you have
a player that andrews himself. You think about what could
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have he been, But he's self destructing himself. He has
the full potential to be a superstar and could put
possibly be a legend if he would live up to it.
I agree, I've said before, I think if he continues
on this path, I would imagine in ten years, he's
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gonna look back and be like, man, man, right, I
mean here, I think he's already gonna be a Hall
of Famer. I don't agree with that. Currently he's one.
He's hit one of the biggest shots ever. His numbers
are great, He's been a multiple Yeah, but you know,
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I not hear what you I hear the hesitation. But
I need more though, right, I do need I mean
he has already. I think Kyrie he's accomplished a ton,
but it's just he could be so much better, and
we all see it. I think that's what it is.
And I do think if the call is right, he
will look back and be like if he doesn't turn
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it around, man, as great as I was, Heck, I
could have been so much better because at this point,
nobody's putting Kyrie like in the top I don't think
you're putting him in the top ten point guards ever,
I wouldn't. I think you be I don't know how
you could, no, man, but he's got this ability, but
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he just hasn't delivered on consistently. All Right, we got
speaking of great point guards, Kenny Anderson coming up. But first,
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Rod Parker. I'm Chris Bruce at our next guest is
a former NBA All Star now the men's basketball coach
at the HBCU Fisk University and is featured in the
new film the documentary that's on showtime right now. NYC
point Guards and Kevin Durant produced it. Um, Kenny Anderson, Kenny,
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what is our brother? Everything is good, Chris Man. You
know I want to When he said, Yo, he wants
you on the show, I said, I definitely got to
do it for Chris Man. So absolutely. Man. Always enjoy
talking with you. And I have not yet seen the documentary,
but I can't wait. Tell us about it, Um, and
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you know your role in it, just what it was
like being a part of that with all the great
point guards from New York City. Oh it was awesome.
You know the you know, the greatest point guards and
our new you know, I know, you go Magic Johnson,
I said, Thomas. But we got so many guards from
New York that it was awesome. Kenny Smith, Mark Jackson,
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Roger Strickland, Pearl Washington. Those are the guys that I
grew up on, that I watched and then I became,
specially coming out of New York. So it was just awesome,
you know, how how how it was what it is
based on. And I got so many calls and guys
like I didn't make it. I didn't do it. I said,
just too many. But it's just too many. You can't
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frow York down. Yeah, it's a good documentary. We're speaking
of point guards. We're here talking about Kyrie Irving. Where
does he rank for you in terms of great point guards,
top you know, superstar. Where does Kyrie fit for you?
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When you're talking about the top guys at that position?
They gotta be top three, you know point guards. Now,
his game is exceptional. You know, he wont he won
a championship with Cleveland, he went to Duke, played it
very well. You know, he has to be top three.
He's very special in the in the game of basketball. Now,
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Kenny Um, you were talking about the great point guards
in New York City history. Yeah, and I am not.
You know, I've taught you a lot over the years
when you were in the league. I ain't just gassing
you up. My favorite college player ever probably was Pearl Washington,
and you were up there, like probably in my top five.
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Like I loved you at Georgia to college top I
loved doing college. I mean real, that's fine, yeah, because
real talk. You was my man. I was all you
and I'm just messing around and I know I feel you,
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but I gotta keep it. And you had a very
good career, No, definitely a career you could be proud of.
Made it All Star Team several years, eighteen and nine,
eighteen and eight, stuff like that. But yeah, I got you.
You you didn't have the career I expected. I thought
she was gonna be like Isaiah Thomas. You know, Poro
certainly didn't have that career. Jenny Smith didn't like you
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know what I'm saying. Stephan Marbury didn't like these great
New York City point guards. A lot of y'all didn't
quite have the NBA career, really good careers, but not
quite what was expected. What why would you say? That
is me? I started at fourteen years old, so I
was always at household, household name that you know. At
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fourteen fifteen, I played on the Vassia for four years straight.
Then I went to Jordan t It was, you know,
those are the best six years of my life. That
I wanted to take care of my mother and by
that I wanted to make it to the NBA. I
played it in for fourteen years, but I made the
All Star team my second year. And I'll tell you
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the truth, it was just a thought. I just got
tired of it mentally, the politics of it. I said, Wow,
I just got my documentary Basketball is easy. Life is hard.
You know, the Mister Trips documentary. That's my documentary beout
five years. But that was the main to me. I
just got card of it. Man's let's let's special. A
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lot of politics. This wasn't ball college in high school.
That was basketball for me. That's a real. Yeah, that's
a real real. You got a lot of Yeah, you
got a lot of guys who want to admit that.
I mean it is. It will wear on, especially from
coming from that young and and the weight of the
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world on your shoulders and the expectations. Ye, man, Zach Kenney,
does that make you worry because you you see it
more than us. I mean, you're a college coach. You
see these kids getting personal trainers. You know, it's a
business for them at ten eleven years old, it's not younger.
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Do you worry about these kids getting burned out? Oh? Yeah,
that's what happened to me. But yes, definitely, you get
burned off at an early age. You got to be
a kid man. You gotta let let a kid live
and enjoy itself and he knows what it is he
wants to be become a pro basketball player. We gotta
work hard, and that's what I try to, you know,
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teach my kids here at Fish University. It's a small school,
an AIA level, but I just try to give him.
I give them real life lessons that I learned. Yes, yes,
if you really want to make it, you have to
you know, you have to work. You gotta work your
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butt off academically. We got it's the first one. You
got to be student athlete in college and then then
you could, uh, you know, maybe one day making to
the pros or making overseas or or I'm just a realist,
and I tell you the real who could make it it?
Who can't? You know, Kidney, Today's game is so much
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more geared to a point guard scoring a really scoring
a bunch of points right and putting up big numbers
more so than when you played. What do you think
your career would be like? Like if you played in
today's NBA when you didn't throw it into the post. Yeah,
but I'll be dancing. I'll be dancing on him out dad,
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shooting it three, going to the basket. The laying is
all open. You know what I played, It was all big.
I had to drop it in, cut off for them
and things like you had to. I played with one
of my best players ever, Derrek Covid, and if he
get the ball once to three times down the court,
he was gonna let you know. So it was right right.
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So it was just it's a differ for error. But
the game. I love watching the games. I'm a big
time Brooklyn Nets fan. H Boston Celtics and Portland Trailblazers.
Those are the three teams that I got loved for
because they gave me the opportunity to go out and
really play the game I love, and that's basketball. And
I played for those three teams by thirteen years, all three.
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You know. Now, what's your take You mentioned the NETS.
What's your take on the KD situation. I'm not sure,
you know, but I wanted him to stay and then
Kylerie got one more year. You know me, if I
was the GM, I just wouldn't. I wouldn't listen to him.
I'll just say, you want stay here. I just wouldn't.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't let them go. I wouldn't let
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them go. I bring him in the office and I'd say, hey,
you got at least you got given another shot, you know,
because it's it's hard out here. It's hard out here,
you know, trading guys, especially if it's caliber. He's wanted
to if not the best player in the league, So
it's gonna take monument to get him on, to get
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him traded to a good TV and he got four
or five years left of his career. Winning the championship.
I don't even know. I don't see a movement. I don't.
I'm with you. I hope they keeping because they really
haven't given it a shot. You know what I'm saying.
They've been too many injuries, so yep, injury. That's our man,
Kenney Anderson, appreciate you, Jny. Good good luck at FITZ.
(32:24):
I know you've been there now what about four years?
Four years? But we've been you know with the COVID
situation three years. Okay. You know, I'm just trying to
build a good program. I'll get it. I love it.
I love it here at Fitz and UM, I'll get it. Man.
That's great man. Well check out the documentary NYC Point Guard,
Who's available now and demand on showtime. That's our man,
(32:45):
Kenny Anderson. Great talking to you again, bro, Yeah same
here man, much love, much love, all right, Kenny Peace.
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I was excited you really did. I was like, ticket,
(33:49):
But hey, hey, Kenny, I mean, man, look look I'm
just a substitute man as your show. All right, I'm
not gonna cut you off, all right, I'm gonna let
you just, you know, suck all out. I definitely I
was like, yeah, I've asked all these I hear you.
(34:14):
I hear you. But you know, and you know, I
know you were when I brought up that point. You
were probably like, yeah, I mean, for all these great
New York City point guards, they would look Stefan Mark Burry,
Kenney Anderson, Kenney Smith. Um, I mean, I'll throwing Eric Barkley.
But obviously he wasn't you know, on that level Pearl Washington,
(34:36):
Ray for Austin skip to my Loup the best god
sham right. I would argue this from since tiny Archibald,
the most accomplished New York City point guard is actually
the least talented, and that would be Mark Jackson. I
(35:00):
would would you, I would argue Mark had Mark certainly
maximized his career more than any of those guys. Um
didn't make an All Star team like a lot of them,
but he probably had, Like if you look back, he
probably had the best career. I mean, I guess it's arguable,
But you know, why do you think they didn't become
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what you know? New York? New York was brash. New
York was cocky, and at the time, you know, the
league wasn't really feeling that, you know what I mean?
Like New York point guards had energy. They were the
end all be all. These guys came up in a
time where it was all about the bigs, right, right,
(35:49):
you hit a little bit, uh, you hit on a
little bit of that with with Kenny, it was all
about the big men, right, who can we get to
get these guys the ball in the best position? Yea,
But New York got they had swag right, they were,
they were They were really like, you know, it's about me.
(36:09):
It's me player, break anybody down, right, you know what
I mean? Kenny Anderson's handle, like we talked about kay
his hand, but he had the ball on a string like.
His handle was crazy. You remember him in college, but
not only I remember what he did the Duke and
Bobby Hurley and hill up. What when Dennis Sky You
(36:31):
want to talk about a clinic? He was crazy. Um,
but I think too, and I think you're seeing this now.
The New York kids have handle. A lot of them
can't shoot. God, sham god, you brought up him. I
remember watching him in the Chicago pre draft camp and
(36:54):
as you know, handle was ridiculous. Passing ability was great,
could run a team, couldn't shoot a lick. And in
the Chicago pre draft they were literally like backing off
of him so much he had like he would They
were giving him open twelve footers and he wouldn't shoot.
(37:15):
Wouldn't shoot. Yeah, And now I think that has been
the downfall. That's one of the things of a lot
of NYC point Now. Kenny could shoot. Kenny had it all.
He wasn't as big and and you know physical. I
mean you probably he probably had to maybe get a
little stronger. But he did have a really good career
a lot of years. The average seventeen eighteen and eight
(37:38):
or nine assists. But um, pearl was my pearl, was
my biggest, like I love pearl in college and he
just didn't have a pro career to speak of at all,
even you know Sebastian Telfare. Yeah, that's another one. That's
a good one. You're right, yeah, he as you know,
came out of high school. I'll tell you this. When
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I went to see him play in high school and
they had was I think Calipari and Rick's Rick Patino
were in the crowd. It was up and down it was.
It wasn't no running set offense. It was pressing, fast,
breaking the whole thirty two minutes, you know. And that's
different than you know you're gonna play at the higher levels.
(38:22):
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(01:07):
the bottom of the hour, we have got Kenney Anderson,
former NBA All Star, now the men's basketball coach at
Fisk University of HBCU in Tennessee. And Kenny is one
of the best point guards ever to come out of
New York City and Kevin Durant produced this film NYC
(01:30):
Point GUIDs and Kenny is a big part of it.
So we'll talk to him about that. But I'm looking
forward to Kenny Anderson was one of my favorite college players,
like ever. He was phenomenal and I actually thought he
was gonna be like the next Isaiah Thomas. Had a
(01:51):
really good pro career, not a not a legendary one
like Isaiah Thomas. But will it'll be good to talk
with him. Kenny Anderson Chips his nickname, Well, he'll join us. Um,
let's get back to the NBA. Speaking of basketball, and
a lot of talk now about Kyrie Irving, because you
(02:14):
know the Lakers, your team, they're trying to get him.
I don't think they will. I think he's gonna play
in Brooklyn this year. I think he's gonna ball out.
He's got no choice. I think he knows that and
he's gonna bring his a game and that that bowls
well for the Nets. But there was an interesting conversation
between Taylor Rooks, the fantastic reporter who covers the NBA,
(02:39):
and Jason Tatum. I believe it was on her podcast,
I guess, but they were talking about Kyrie and Damian Lillard.
Here's the conversation. It's Kyrie Irving a superstar, yes, So okay,
do you want me to agree? Okay? Is Damian Lillard
(03:00):
a superstar? I think that Damian has all of the
superstar qualities, but it's hard to put him in it
in this moment because of he just like needs a
little more, but obviously like he has that in him,
needs a little more. I mean, he's got to win,
He's got to get there like that. It to me,
that's about some of it. So all right, I'm gonna
(03:26):
let you tackle this, okay, because we look baffled. Yeah,
because that's ridiculous. So that means John Moran is not
a superstar because by her further right, by by her
own you know, rules and an admission of what a
(03:48):
superstar is, right, someone like John Mara, Steve Nash was
never a superstar, right, Like, so I don't know if
she I mean, I don't know what her criteria is
for being a superstar as winning championships, because that's not
what a superstar is, right right. Charles Barkley was a superstar.
(04:11):
He never won a championship. How would you define superstar.
I would I would define superstar as box office. Right,
I'm showing up and I'm showing out. That's a great individual.
You're beyond great. That's a superstar, A phenomenal individual player
(04:31):
like that guy right there, he's got it. And I
will say that I think you're a phenomenal individual player.
And you do have team success. Now you might not
win a championship, but you you know, because of you,
your team is really good. A superstar is marketable. Well, yeah,
(04:54):
I think some guys that aren't superstars are marketable. I'm
gonna say that I would not call Kyrie a superstar either.
I think Kyrie is a celebrity. And I'm gonna I'm
gonna go further and that you might not agree with
this part. I think Kyrie because generally we would put
(05:17):
legend above superstar. I think in most cases, okay, definitely,
But but I will say this, I do think Kyrie
Irving is going to be like a legend. He's even
though I don't. Well, but I think, and maybe I'm
(05:39):
confusing a legend with iconic because people are going to
remember Kyrie Irving because I think by many people, if
not most people's estimation he's the best ball handler. Ever.
You're hearing more and more people say he's the most
skilled either point guard or player. Ever, I think player
(06:01):
is going too far. Point Guard, you know, you want
to argue skill whatever. But because of his skill set,
his package, even though he hasn't delivered on it for
the most part. I shouldn't say for the most part,
even though he's not quite the player he could be
because of his off the court other stuff, yeah, the
(06:23):
other stuff, right, but Kyrie, Like, I'm gonna compare him
to this, I think, and I would say Dave. I
don't think either one right now is a superstar, but
I do think if you're gonna rank their careers, I
think you have to rank Dames ahead of Kyrie's. Now,
does is Kyrie a better ball handler? Yes, it is Kyrie.
(06:45):
The shooting is close. They're both clutch. You like, you
can argue Kyrie's got better skills. I actually think he
probably does. But who's had the better career? Damian Lillard?
And I'm gonna compare Kyrie to this. You know how
you got some rappers that are just dope. Remember cannabis, Yeah, canna, Yes,
(07:11):
cannabis was dope. Period, right, but he didn't make, for
the most part, great songs, right, so he doesn't you know,
he doesn't go down. He's like, oh that's yeah. In
the streets, you know cats talking about just skills all that.
Oh you can't remember that cat Cannabis. He was crazy
Jay Electronica. Right, you might say the same thing about him,
(07:35):
Big Big he got my gosh, he got killed, so
it just kind of different. But yeah, Big Hell was
redicud And I would even say, now he's made some
great songs, obviously, but Jada kiss right, if you're just
talking about skills, like people are gonna say, Jada, very few, right,
(07:55):
very few could top Hill. Yes, he's crazy, but can
you rank him? There are many mcs you probably would
rank ahead of him just because they made more hits
and better, better just songs, even though he's a better
(08:16):
lyricist and MC. And that's how I kind of look
at Kyrie, Like, if you want to say street Ball,
who have more skills? Who had the better package? Kyrie
or Lillard? I can't see you going with Kyrie, But
who had the better career? Who made the most trust? Right,
(08:36):
I mean it's period, you gotta go with that. Damian
Lillard has had his own team for a decade and
they have been a very good alone and they never
won the championship, but they have gotten to the conference finals.
There they are generally a second round playoff team. And
he's done that. Kyrie has not shown that he could
(08:58):
do that. Kyrie won would Lebron has wanted to do it,
not even like it just seemed like he could care
less when he's at his old team. It's been a disaster,
you know. And so that's how I kind of see Kyrie. Yeah,
it's um. You know, you could be a superstar and like,
you don't have to be a leader. You could be
(09:19):
a superstar, right, you could be a Dans a superstar, right,
you know what I mean? But is he you know,
is he a leader of a team? No, Like, we
(09:40):
gotta start handing out roses to everybody. Got a good crossover?
You can shoot off the back foot, right, everybody's greatest, honey.
We have a greatest score of all times. Remember that
James Harden is the greatest score ever? You right about?
(10:00):
I'm like, come on, man, people don't remember how Michael
Jordan dismantled people. You want to talk about the greatest
score of all times? All right, it was him, This
man dismantled entire teams when you can literally put both
(10:23):
of them, when you can literally put both of your
hands on a ball handler, right, you can set your
forearm in their hip. Right. So, when you want to
talk about scores above the ram, like, people have confused
the three point shot with oh right, like, oh, he's threes,
(10:47):
he's got to be the greatest score of all that.
Step back three. It's gotta be the greatest of all time.
Right now, it's not. It's not. And we had the
opportunity to live to an era where we got to
see these players right right, the Jordan's the Kobe's right,
(11:08):
we get to see the Lebrons. Lebron James was almost
the Finals MVP on the losing team, right right. So
you when you don't fall for the oky talk, look
at his hand. He can drip around anybody who show
(11:29):
up to the game. Brother, please like and I get it.
And it's like we're just talking about the skill. But
it's hard to separate them. Alan Iverson was a superstar.
Alison was a super Come on now, right agree, one
of the greatest scorers. Please do you agree that Kyrie
(11:53):
may go down as weather legend, icon whatever, because people
already talking about Kyrie and these highlow terms and I'm
with you or not a superstar. I think Kyrie has
been about seventy His friends are talking about him like that.
WHOW contemporaries His contemporaries Chauncey Phillips said he's the most
(12:19):
skilled playing point because they see it from a different
What we're seeing is they've been in the gym with him, right,
they've been in the summer to see it the handle.
But the way we're comparing it is we need to
see it. Kobe played for twenty years. You got to
(12:43):
see it every year, right through pain, injury, anything. We
get the Lebron's going on, you're a hundred, you get
to see it. You get what I'm saying. That's like
asking me if Anthony Davis and superstar. We don't get
to see it enough healthy you when he's healthy, no
one in basketball can guard him. But you're not anything.
(13:09):
But even before that, people don't remember a few years
ago when he was in New Orleans, he started the
season off fifty ball, forty eight ball, thirty nine ball.
All was twelve and seemed like that guy anymore. But
I'm saying when that was. When he's healthy, right, he's unguardable.
(13:30):
It's nothing you can do to stop him. But here's
what I would say, And again I'm in agreement Kyrie
nor Dame as a superstar at this point. But Kyrie
because of his unique ability, and I get the whole
you're right off the court, not showing up, just not
playing enough, being hurt, whatever you want to call it.
(13:52):
But people are going to talk about him for decades.
You do it? Do you agree with that? Well, he's
dumb and he got movies. He got Uncle Drew movies.
Of course. Well, I'll just mean because of the movie.
There's a lot of reasons people are gonna talk about him,
(14:13):
but they're gonna be talking about that handle, his finishing ability,
his moves. But I Taylor, I think she was wrong.
You have to put Dame ahead of Kyrie. I just think, look, man,
Kye is a tremendous player. Imagine if we could have
gotten to see Kyrie Irving play basketball consistently right, Imagine
(14:36):
the conversation we'd be having right now. Like I said,
seventy percent of the player he could be seventy seventy.
I would agree with that. I would agree with that percentage.
He got time. He's got to see if he can, right,
if he can, he got a right, he definitely has to.
He told us, he told us that basketball wasn't that
(14:56):
important to him. Those are these are his words, not mine. Right, Right,
I'm gonna do what's best for me. Basketball is only
this much of of of of of my life, right,
I'm going to I'm going to worry about this part
and not this part. Right. He told that, He told
that to us, So we're gonna believe him. No, you're right.
(15:20):
And here's the thing. We know, we know. I think
we know Kyrie is gonna ball out this year, right
because he's gott it's a contract here. But here's the thing.
Even if he balls out, if I'm an opposing team
or heck, if I'm the Nets, I still got question marks.
(15:41):
Yeah many, But I'm still like it unless we win
a championship or go to the finals, I'm not we No, no, no,
it's still a lie. Yeah, it's still gonna be people like, well,
once he gets the bag, is he gonna go back
to his old way? So we'll see. But let's start out.
You guys, I know you've been waiting. We haven't taken
calls all night, but now is your time to weigh in.
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You're turning away in on Kyrie Irving? Is he a superstar?
You can tell us what you think about Damian Lillard
as well in comparison to Kyrie eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine. We got Toorell and Virginia
beat you on the eye couple. What you got? Hey,
thanks for taking a call. I love y'all show. Kyrie
is iconic, Kyrie is office. Kyrie is in my opinion,
(18:04):
top five definitely top ten the year time on one time.
What does that mean? Top five? What of all time?
Or of point guard? Yeah? Current NBA player definitely my
time five player? Right now, please name you top five.
(18:24):
When I look, I think he's a five. Health How
that's impossible? I mean really, how the year the year
Cleveland won the championship for six years ago, I remember
a game won the road. He scored sixty one points
(18:46):
against San Antonio on the road. That makes him one
of the best five players in the league. Now now today,
how about how about this, He's definitely one of the
five player that I'm gonna turn my TV on the wall. Okay,
that's fine, that's fine, But he's the best. I agree,
(19:09):
he's box office right, yeah, of course, of course when
we can see him right now, come on, top five. Look,
the biggest ky fan ain't saying these top five, so
he's he means he's better than Steph Jannis the Joker, Luca,
Kevin Durant, Joeling, Bid, Jason Tatum, Lebron right like he
(19:32):
just put Kyrie in front of all of those players, ebid.
If y'all, I don't know if you said YEA said no,
you're right to me that that I mean, Look, I
love the call, but we're gonna move on. We got
Nick in South Carolina. You don't hear our couple? What
you got Nick? Hey, what's up, y'all? What up? What's up?
I appreciate y'all for taking my call. Man, I'm gonna
(19:54):
have to I'm gonna have to disagree with y'all on
that one. Man. I think Kyrie Irvin is definitely a superstar.
Uh he might not be on the Lebron level and
the Yannis level super but might not. He isn't he's not.
He's not. He's not, he's not. But I feel like,
definitely he's on that. He's gonna. Let me ask you
(20:16):
how many superstars are in the league, then I think
it's about a good So he's a top ten player,
top top, top top. I'm gonna give him if you were,
if you were gonna tell me there's twenty ish superstars. Okay,
you got a big broader definition. I say, okay, if
(20:39):
you want to go there, I mean, I'm gonna get it.
He's a he's a like icon because of his way
he plays. But I just superstar. I don't. I'm not
gonna give him that yet. What I'm gonna put him as,
I'm gonna put him as this is what I'm putting
him as. I'm putt him as a cheer two superstar.
(21:00):
I'm gonna put him at a tier two. He can
get to that tier well with Lebron Jannis. I think
he's on that Jason tape. He got the ability, but
he just got to make better song about a better record.
We haven't seen it though at any point, right, we
haven't seen that. Ye before we got on the mixtape
and was dupe and smashed it. Yeah, Kyrie got on
(21:24):
Lebron's mixtape and stole the show. We can give him that,
but that don't make you a Grammy Award winning artist.
That's my point. That's a good point. That's a great
see what I'm saying. Yeah, that's a great point. He
was on me, Oh my god, this dude, this christ Yep.
That's a great point. But his own album really, dang,
we got we got Sam in Indiana. You're on the
(21:45):
old couple. What you got? Thanks for taking my call, guys, show, Yeah,
thank you. Um, I had a question to ask you guys.
After I answer about Kyrie. Kyrie reminds me of hate
is wasting his talent. And it's not like you have
a player that andrews himself. You think about what could
(22:05):
have he been, But he's self destructing himself. He has
the full potential to be a superstar and could put
possibly be a legend if he would live up to it.
I agree, I've said before, I think if he continues
on this path, I would imagine in ten years, he's
(22:27):
gonna look back and be like, man, man, right, I
mean here, I think he's already gonna be a Hall
of Famer. I don't agree with that. Currently he's one.
He's hit one of the biggest shots ever. His numbers
are great, He's been a multiple Yeah, but you know,
(22:48):
I not hear what you I hear the hesitation. But
I need more though, right, I do need I mean
he has already. I think Kyrie he's accomplished a ton,
but it's just he could be so much better, and
we all see it. I think that's what it is.
And I do think if the call is right, he
will look back and be like if he doesn't turn
(23:08):
it around, man, as great as I was, Heck, I
could have been so much better because at this point,
nobody's putting Kyrie like in the top I don't think
you're putting him in the top ten point guards ever,
I wouldn't. I think you be I don't know how
you could, no, man, but he's got this ability, but
(23:30):
he just hasn't delivered on consistently. All Right, we got
speaking of great point guards, Kenny Anderson coming up. But first,
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(23:51):
Rod Parker. I'm Chris Bruce at our next guest is
a former NBA All Star now the men's basketball coach
at the HBCU Fisk University and is featured in the
new film the documentary that's on showtime right now. NYC
point Guards and Kevin Durant produced it. Um, Kenny Anderson, Kenny,
(24:15):
what is our brother? Everything is good, Chris Man. You
know I want to When he said, Yo, he wants
you on the show, I said, I definitely got to
do it for Chris Man. So absolutely. Man. Always enjoy
talking with you. And I have not yet seen the documentary,
but I can't wait. Tell us about it, Um, and
(24:38):
you know your role in it, just what it was
like being a part of that with all the great
point guards from New York City. Oh it was awesome.
You know the you know, the greatest point guards and
our new you know, I know, you go Magic Johnson,
I said, Thomas. But we got so many guards from
New York that it was awesome. Kenny Smith, Mark Jackson,
(25:01):
Roger Strickland, Pearl Washington. Those are the guys that I
grew up on, that I watched and then I became,
specially coming out of New York. So it was just awesome,
you know, how how how it was what it is
based on. And I got so many calls and guys
like I didn't make it. I didn't do it. I said,
just too many. But it's just too many. You can't
(25:29):
frow York down. Yeah, it's a good documentary. We're speaking
of point guards. We're here talking about Kyrie Irving. Where
does he rank for you in terms of great point guards,
top you know, superstar. Where does Kyrie fit for you?
(25:50):
When you're talking about the top guys at that position?
They gotta be top three, you know point guards. Now,
his game is exceptional. You know, he wont he won
a championship with Cleveland, he went to Duke, played it
very well. You know, he has to be top three.
He's very special in the in the game of basketball. Now,
(26:13):
Kenny Um, you were talking about the great point guards
in New York City history. Yeah, and I am not.
You know, I've taught you a lot over the years
when you were in the league. I ain't just gassing
you up. My favorite college player ever probably was Pearl Washington,
and you were up there, like probably in my top five.
(26:34):
Like I loved you at Georgia to college top I
loved doing college. I mean real, that's fine, yeah, because
real talk. You was my man. I was all you
and I'm just messing around and I know I feel you,
(26:56):
but I gotta keep it. And you had a very
good career, No, definitely a career you could be proud of.
Made it All Star Team several years, eighteen and nine,
eighteen and eight, stuff like that. But yeah, I got you.
You you didn't have the career I expected. I thought
she was gonna be like Isaiah Thomas. You know, Poro
certainly didn't have that career. Jenny Smith didn't like you
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know what I'm saying. Stephan Marbury didn't like these great
New York City point guards. A lot of y'all didn't
quite have the NBA career, really good careers, but not
quite what was expected. What why would you say? That
is me? I started at fourteen years old, so I
was always at household, household name that you know. At
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fourteen fifteen, I played on the Vassia for four years straight.
Then I went to Jordan t It was, you know,
those are the best six years of my life. That
I wanted to take care of my mother and by
that I wanted to make it to the NBA. I
played it in for fourteen years, but I made the
All Star team my second year. And I'll tell you
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the truth, it was just a thought. I just got
tired of it mentally, the politics of it. I said, Wow,
I just got my documentary Basketball is easy. Life is hard.
You know, the Mister Trips documentary. That's my documentary beout
five years. But that was the main to me. I
just got card of it. Man's let's let's special. A
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lot of politics. This wasn't ball college in high school.
That was basketball for me. That's a real. Yeah, that's
a real real. You got a lot of Yeah, you
got a lot of guys who want to admit that.
I mean it is. It will wear on, especially from
coming from that young and and the weight of the
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world on your shoulders and the expectations. Ye, man, Zach Kenney,
does that make you worry because you you see it
more than us. I mean, you're a college coach. You
see these kids getting personal trainers. You know, it's a
business for them at ten eleven years old, it's not younger.
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Do you worry about these kids getting burned out? Oh? Yeah,
that's what happened to me. But yes, definitely, you get
burned off at an early age. You got to be
a kid man. You gotta let let a kid live
and enjoy itself and he knows what it is he
wants to be become a pro basketball player. We gotta
work hard, and that's what I try to, you know,
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teach my kids here at Fish University. It's a small school,
an AIA level, but I just try to give him.
I give them real life lessons that I learned. Yes, yes,
if you really want to make it, you have to
you know, you have to work. You gotta work your
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butt off academically. We got it's the first one. You
got to be student athlete in college and then then
you could, uh, you know, maybe one day making to
the pros or making overseas or or I'm just a realist,
and I tell you the real who could make it it?
Who can't? You know, Kidney, Today's game is so much
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more geared to a point guard scoring a really scoring
a bunch of points right and putting up big numbers
more so than when you played. What do you think
your career would be like? Like if you played in
today's NBA when you didn't throw it into the post. Yeah,
but I'll be dancing. I'll be dancing on him out dad,
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shooting it three, going to the basket. The laying is
all open. You know what I played, It was all big.
I had to drop it in, cut off for them
and things like you had to. I played with one
of my best players ever, Derrek Covid, and if he
get the ball once to three times down the court,
he was gonna let you know. So it was right right.
(30:58):
So it was just it's a differ for error. But
the game. I love watching the games. I'm a big
time Brooklyn Nets fan. H Boston Celtics and Portland Trailblazers.
Those are the three teams that I got loved for
because they gave me the opportunity to go out and
really play the game I love, and that's basketball. And
I played for those three teams by thirteen years, all three.
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You know. Now, what's your take You mentioned the NETS.
What's your take on the KD situation. I'm not sure,
you know, but I wanted him to stay and then
Kylerie got one more year. You know me, if I
was the GM, I just wouldn't. I wouldn't listen to him.
I'll just say, you want stay here. I just wouldn't.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't let them go. I wouldn't let
(31:41):
them go. I bring him in the office and I'd say, hey,
you got at least you got given another shot, you know,
because it's it's hard out here. It's hard out here,
you know, trading guys, especially if it's caliber. He's wanted
to if not the best player in the league, So
it's gonna take monument to get him on, to get
(32:03):
him traded to a good TV and he got four
or five years left of his career. Winning the championship.
I don't even know. I don't see a movement. I don't.
I'm with you. I hope they keeping because they really
haven't given it a shot. You know what I'm saying.
They've been too many injuries, so yep, injury. That's our man,
Kenney Anderson, appreciate you, Jny. Good good luck at FITZ.
(32:24):
I know you've been there now what about four years?
Four years? But we've been you know with the COVID
situation three years. Okay. You know, I'm just trying to
build a good program. I'll get it. I love it.
I love it here at Fitz and UM, I'll get it. Man.
That's great man. Well check out the documentary NYC Point Guard,
Who's available now and demand on showtime. That's our man,
(32:45):
Kenny Anderson. Great talking to you again, bro, Yeah same
here man, much love, much love, all right, Kenny Peace.
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talk about We just talked with Kenny Anderson, and I
know I kind of hugged a lot of the questions.
I was excited you really did. I was like, ticket,
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But hey, hey, Kenny, I mean, man, look look I'm
just a substitute man as your show. All right, I'm
not gonna cut you off, all right, I'm gonna let
you just, you know, suck all out. I definitely I
was like, yeah, I've asked all these I hear you.
(34:14):
I hear you. But you know, and you know, I
know you were when I brought up that point. You
were probably like, yeah, I mean, for all these great
New York City point guards, they would look Stefan Mark Burry,
Kenney Anderson, Kenney Smith. Um, I mean, I'll throwing Eric Barkley.
But obviously he wasn't you know, on that level Pearl Washington,
(34:36):
Ray for Austin skip to my Loup the best god
sham right. I would argue this from since tiny Archibald,
the most accomplished New York City point guard is actually
the least talented, and that would be Mark Jackson. I
(35:00):
would would you, I would argue Mark had Mark certainly
maximized his career more than any of those guys. Um
didn't make an All Star team like a lot of them,
but he probably had, Like if you look back, he
probably had the best career. I mean, I guess it's arguable,
But you know, why do you think they didn't become
(35:26):
what you know? New York? New York was brash. New
York was cocky, and at the time, you know, the
league wasn't really feeling that, you know what I mean?
Like New York point guards had energy. They were the
end all be all. These guys came up in a
time where it was all about the bigs, right, right,
(35:49):
you hit a little bit, uh, you hit on a
little bit of that with with Kenny, it was all
about the big men, right, who can we get to
get these guys the ball in the best position? Yea,
But New York got they had swag right, they were,
they were They were really like, you know, it's about me.
(36:09):
It's me player, break anybody down, right, you know what
I mean? Kenny Anderson's handle, like we talked about kay
his hand, but he had the ball on a string like.
His handle was crazy. You remember him in college, but
not only I remember what he did the Duke and
Bobby Hurley and hill up. What when Dennis Sky You
(36:31):
want to talk about a clinic? He was crazy. Um,
but I think too, and I think you're seeing this now.
The New York kids have handle. A lot of them
can't shoot. God, sham god, you brought up him. I
remember watching him in the Chicago pre draft camp and
(36:54):
as you know, handle was ridiculous. Passing ability was great,
could run a team, couldn't shoot a lick. And in
the Chicago pre draft they were literally like backing off
of him so much he had like he would They
were giving him open twelve footers and he wouldn't shoot.
(37:15):
Wouldn't shoot. Yeah, And now I think that has been
the downfall. That's one of the things of a lot
of NYC point Now. Kenny could shoot. Kenny had it all.
He wasn't as big and and you know physical. I
mean you probably he probably had to maybe get a
little stronger. But he did have a really good career
a lot of years. The average seventeen eighteen and eight
(37:38):
or nine assists. But um, pearl was my pearl, was
my biggest, like I love pearl in college and he
just didn't have a pro career to speak of at all,
even you know Sebastian Telfare. Yeah, that's another one. That's
a good one. You're right, yeah, he as you know,
came out of high school. I'll tell you this. When
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I went to see him play in high school and
they had was I think Calipari and Rick's Rick Patino
were in the crowd. It was up and down it was.
It wasn't no running set offense. It was pressing, fast,
breaking the whole thirty two minutes, you know. And that's
different than you know you're gonna play at the higher levels.
(38:22):
But it's ther couple. I'm Chris, he's eve from great
job filling in brothers. You are back for more tomorrow
and talking smack too. Peace
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