May 23, 2025 • 37 mins
Rob and Kelvin provide up-to-the-minute analysis of Game 2 between the New York Knicks and the Indiana Pacers, take LeBron James to task for saying that he doesn’t appreciate the era of the ‘old heads’ as much as he used to, and explain why they have a big problem with USC football trying to get out of their annual rivalry game with Notre Dame. Plus, FOX Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines around The Association.
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Speaker 4 (01:33):
I mean the Knicks and the pace. This is a
close game.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I mean yes, I mean think about where the Pacers are.
You know we talked about earlier six and a half
point underdogs. They're right in this game in the first half.
They gotta feel great because you would have thought after
blowing Game one, the Knicks would come out with vengeance
and you know, try to run them out the gym
and the crowd and you know what I mean, Ben
(01:58):
nailing threes and they pay down by twenty and we're
not gonna let this happen.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Instead, the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Are hanging around the way they want to be, and
they can steal this now. They can steal this game
right here.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I don't they don't.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Neither one of these teams strike me as a fearful
or scared type, like, hey, we're in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
City, we're a Mads Square guard. Let's get it.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
And I think the Knicks can be down oh two
and go into uh and then that Indiana and be like,
all right, you know what we need to go up
now be two to one. Let's go to the next game,
let's win in B two two Like they're both to me,
which is a it's a compliment to their teams. Uh
that their their mindset is we can win on the road,
we can win wherever, and what type of situation you
actually heard Halliburton have talked about that, like we we
(02:39):
can win in a multitude of ways. Uh, and and
ugly games type games, fast games. And I'm just saying
that if you're feeling good, right, if you're a nick fan,
you're like, really, it's gonna be like a nail bier.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Like, well, they're hanging on a brunts and brunts and
brunts and we got we got clutch, do you know
what I mean? Yeah, they're hanging on to that, even
though the most clutch play all year has been Tyre's haliburt.
We had those stats the other day, twelve out of
fourteen c cration five.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Or six in the playoffs is right now.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And the other thing too, I don't know what the numbers,
rob g. He hadn't done anything. That's the scary part.
Am Ill, Right, Halliburton, I don't I'm watching, you know,
as we're doing the show. Yeah, and I don't see it.
He's just like five or six assists.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, he has no points, zero point and they're in
this game. Do you see what I'm saying. But remember
when we said run thirty one the other.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Night, he has zero points and there did he just
score right there the first bucket and the Knicks are
only up by one.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Now that's what I'm talking about. Well, and this is why.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I think he's really good at knowing his team, Like
I'm gonna set guys up, I'm gonna get guys going.
I'ma and then there will be that moment where he's like,
all right, I gotta go get some buck I gotta
be more aggressive, I gotta get my shot. And that's
something I think Brunson actually can get better. And they've
done a good job with this game Brunton, because forty three.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
He only got thirteen in the first half.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, but they're they're letting Cat cook.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
He has twelve in the second quarter at least now,
So I like that he's getting Cat involved and kind
of your.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Cat has thirty four five the other night. I'm just saying,
thirteen from Brunting is a drop.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I'll take that, No, but I'll take that I don't
because I don't need one hundred and twenty plus thirty
plus points f him.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I don't want to win that way. I want to
win one of I just want to win. If I'm
the Knicks, I just want to win. I'm not looking
at the score. I get it, Rob.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I'm looking at my bench, Rob, and I'm saying, we
play two guys, literally, but that's that's.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Not gonna change. You think he's going to change now?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
No, what I'm saying is then I can't run us
ragged where guy's a gasping and I look at but he's.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Not okay, So who's going to score the points?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Is what I'm saying to you, is that he's not
changing his uh his rotation.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Now.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
No it's not the no, no, no, it's not the
points or who's the rotation. It's I have to then
pace myself because I'm going to be gassed if this
goes into the very last minutes of the fourth or
if this were to ever going overtime again when I'm
playing these core four or five guys, crazy minutes crazy, like.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Dude, it almost no possibility.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Like if they go to the finals, right, who is
literally the Knick's gonna have to be like Josh hart Mchev.
You know it's bad when the Iron Man. Remember a
couple of months ago he said, hey man, we need
a break. When you get the Iron Man literally going
to the outlets, the media outlets and saying.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We need to break.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
We gotta trust our bench more like, that's when you
know it's like.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
God lead the Iron Man is even calling for it.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
So I just wonder, at a certain point, do out
this could potentially be a tough series. Potentially if you
be a tough finals, do they just collapse?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I just if I'm the Pacers, I gotta be thrilled
to be not getting run out of the building after
that last game.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
That's all. Let's do this.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Rob g set up a Lebron James uh and basically
I don't I don't know. He's not happy that the
older guys, I guess, aren't crowning him, aren't endorsing him,
aren't telling everybody that he's the greatest, because of course
when they don't say that, he has an issue with
(06:18):
the old heads.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Rob the Lebron is lucky that these comments came in
the middle of the conference finals, because if this was
like the middle of February.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
This may have been a big story.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Now Lebron's been having this war against the old heads
as he calls them, for a couple of years now.
Specifically it seems like with Chuck and Shack and all that.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, those guys, because they have a big platform and
everybody watches.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
So that's why it has an issue with Charles.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
So on the last and the latest episode of Mind
the Game that the latest season with him and Steve Nash,
they did this.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Whole never miss mind again.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Okay, I know he don't and that that podcast or
that video podcast is meant to say, celebrate the game
of basketball. Which is interesting because at the end of
the last episode they'd already finished what they were going
to talk about and the creativity of guys like y'oll
get your brunz and this on and so forth. And
after they're done recording or they're done with the episode,
Steve Nash says something to Lebron like, had I love
(07:16):
what you said about the beauty of the game, and
you know how we should appreciate what we're seeing. For
whatever reason, they stuck this at the end of the podcast.
You know again, they finished recording, And here's what Lebron
said about the quote unquote old.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Heads and the way they view today's game of basketball.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
And then like the generation they talk so much about
the day today and it makes you go back and
watch the game back then and it makes you not
even want to appreciate it no more like I did
with another kid, like it was like.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
That's a great point. That's let me go back and
watch now. It doesn't feel as good as it did.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
At the time. It does not, but it was great.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
It was the best on the planet.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It was great.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Or you know these guys there say what came befriend
you your friends with that?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Where are you smiler?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
On the and then someone goes to find a clip
of like you standing next to this guy during the
finals smiling and laughing. It's like, can we just be
honest with if you just be honest?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
It's just typical Lebron because if they were singing his praises,
he wouldn't have an issue with the old Heads.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
And that's really what it boils down to.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
He can make it, but the idea that you wouldn't
appreciate what other people have done previous is mind boggling
to me because it's only the NBA. We've talked about
this before, It's only the NBA. The jealousy factor is
through the roof. I just don't like. I really like
(08:44):
it is an era that was played right, but you
don't need to bash that like the JJ Reddick right.
Everybody's a plumber and a butcher to make this era
feel better to you. That's what I don't understand. That
was the best that was there at the time. There
were only eight teams in the NBA. There wasn't a
(09:04):
loaded rosters with guys who really couldn't play like I
don't understand because I don't believe Lebron would say the
same thing. If they were saying he's the goat and
he's the best player they ever saw, I don't believe
he would be going back. He just doesn't like when
people aren't on board with him, so that's why he
(09:27):
didn't like Charles Barkley and he went after him because
of the stuff that they've said. It's always a war
against everybody who's just not on board. Everybody's not going
to like you, everybody's not going to be on your team.
Everybody's not going to think you're the greatest player ever.
It's okay, It's okay. People say I'm a Lebron hater.
(09:48):
I think he's the second best player of all time.
That's a hater.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
A hater is Paul Pierce who says he's not in
the top ten.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Like, how do you say somebody's second greatest of all
time and I'm a hater?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I watch both and I do have that is that
I actually watched both players career. Okay, And a lot
of the guys who are now you know, got.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Shows and taught they didn't watch Michael Jordan. They didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, so a couple a bunch of things.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Actually, one thing I'll disagree with you on as I
actually agree with quite a bit of what you said.
One thing I'll disagree is I do think a part
of Lebron isn't just mad that they hate on him.
I do believe absolutely that plays a part of it.
He's got an ego he want you know, he knows
where he is and wants to be considered the greatest.
But I also do believe that he hates that they
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talk about this current game, whether it's they shoot too
many threes, or they fragnize. And I do think because
he views himself as the statement statesman, as the elder statesman,
as the face of the league.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
One second, Lebron himself said they shoot too many.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Three No, no, no, I hear you.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
What I'm saying is I think so if I make
an indictment on the game, if I say the game
ain't this or the game ain't that under my leadership,
right under my tenure as the face of the league,
well that's an indictment on me. And I think that's
a part of it is. I think he looking at
himself as the governor of the league. Also came out
against the nd season tournament. Who didn't want that.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I'm just saying, these are things like you know, the
these are some of the things that people don't like
about the game, and the threes particularly.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
That's all. I didn't play that kind of basketball.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
But this is what I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
But Lebron, where I will give him credit is that
we all know he's an extreme student of the game, right,
so he has that all he respace comes right, oh man,
what Larry Bird used to do. He's one of those
I go out of my way to praise the older
guys to talk about what I studied, what I saw.
He shows them respect and he praises the younger guys.
Go and man, all I love with Katie's art, not Katie.
I love what SGA is doing. I love what Amen
(11:52):
he So he kind of is that person who bridges
honor and respected all ushering in the new So you
think there's an element in him is like, if I
feel like I'm doing it the right way, why are
we getting crapped on him? But here's what he has
to understand. And this is where I agree with you.
Everybody ain't gonna like you. Yeah right, and watch this Rob.
(12:13):
What he's dealing with is what Rob Parker kelvin Washington
and everyone else is dealing with.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Everybody's got a microphone.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Now see he out in the era where there was
a Rob Parker and a somebody else covering the beat
and then they write an article and that was pretty
much it. And then they have a one weekly show
maybe of some reporters and that's it. Buddy, we got
twenty four to seven all over the place. Everybody. You
have literally food brands that have networks. Do you know
there's a Chick fil A network like everybody has a network,
(12:41):
everybody has a microphone, everyone has a podcast, including.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
One of his good friends, Draymond Green.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
So my point is, I think he's paying attention too
much to the volume out there, too much to what
people are saying, too much to what everybody is, you know,
had their ideas, and I think he's over even exposing
himself where we have Sometimes less is more. It's okay
to be a Jay Z and Michael Jordan Beyonce in
that they don't do every interview, rob they don't do
(13:09):
every podcast, And I think Lebron shares his thoughts almost
too much at times where it's like you don't have
to jump into every conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You don't have to jump on this pod and jump on.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
This interview and tweet this and instagram net because you
open yourself up when you always have an opinion that
we got to go back on your opinion, then we
got to talk about it all those sports debate shows.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So I think there is a little bit of Lebron.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I will say, you know, one of his big homies,
jay Z, maybe he's kind of fall back a little
bit on always telling us what you think you're projecting
and doing every interview every pod. You know know what
I mean, because then it comes to becomes back and forth,
and some of that can be eliminated. But I just
think we have more access to any and everyone's thoughts,
and he needs to understand people are just getting their
thoughts off. People are just getting their opinions off. Everybody's
(13:52):
not gonna like you, everybody's not gonna like the game,
and you can tune some of that out. And last
point where I strongly disagree with him. When I go
back and watch those eighties and nineties, I love it, boy,
I love it. I go back and watch Lakers versus
Celtics once a year. I go back and watch Last
Dance once a year. I go back and watch Miller
Time thirty for thirty with Reggie and the Knicks once
(14:13):
a year. I watched The Bad Boys Dot twice a year.
So I strongly disagree. That makes me go, Steve, that's
gonna gonna agree with him, Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Sdeve, you gotta relax.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Come on, Steve, Really, that was some fun hoops then
and it's fun hoops now to watch.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And I can understand maybe I don't know these people.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I don't know all of them personally like Lebron does.
Maybe he takes a person because he knows them. But David,
I love it. I go get my chips and guatt
get me some chili, cheese, friedos or whatever I'm having
that day, and I.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Enjoy it all right.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
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Speaker 4 (14:51):
And I guess it's real simple. Do you agree with Lebron?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Do you not appreciate the old days because they're so
outfront and ripping the game the way played today and
they don't like it? And the older players have you know,
talked about it? And do you agree with that? Agree
with Lebron? It makes you not want to appreciate the
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I talking about Lebron had something to say to this
podcast Mind the Game, he and Steve Nash and essentially
saying he's tired of the old heads hating and always
(16:09):
having something negative to the tune of the fact that
when he goes back and watch those old games, Robbie
don't hit the same. And that's where I disagree with him.
I don't hit the same To me, I love him.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I love him. Give me an old nostalgia and let's
just be honest about it.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You can look and say, how did those guys score
that many points with the kind of defense they were playing?
The spacing the average thirty some on my point, no threes,
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's actually impressive
the old heads, don't you think?
Speaker 8 (16:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I also just think what he's kind of missing is
and he's a stude enough to think this.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Hat, Rob, your favorite kind of music is what like genre,
all time favorite Yeah, like a genre. Is it rock?
Is it soft frog? Is it hip hop? Is it probably.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Soft frock?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
The reason I say that is minus hip hop. So
I'm of an age where maybe people ten years my senior.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Year is the eighties soft rock or what would that
be because.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It's really rock.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yeah, eighties rolesse and that's that's some yacht rock or
blue Eye Soul up in there too, So minus hip hop.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And the reason I say that is.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
This happens all the time right where my generation did
it better. And sometimes he has to just kind of
know that, like, boy do I don't know about that
hip hop? Let me tell you something cool g Ratt,
you know what I mean? And rock KEIVI and there no, man,
I'm telling you something about jay Z and I. It's
like that's gonna happen. Boy, Yeah, he's all right, But
you ain't never seen doctor J. You ain't say Juliet
George Gervin like people, some people are gonna do that
(17:37):
and they're gonna prefer what they saw in their time.
And it happens. And I think he's taking it a
little bit too hard to heart. And again I think
it's because he feels like he's the governor of this era,
his hero. It's exactly. It's an indictment on me. So
that's just my thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
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Speaker 4 (17:58):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports. What's up, Dion?
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Hey, what's up guys. It's being hard again in this week.
But had a great, great.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
Show all week.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You thank you?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Hey. You know, Yeah, here's the statesman. He's the he's
been you know, he's been the face of the lead
for so long. I don't think that, man, you know,
I think a lot of these old heads. I think
Lebron's the most scrutinizler uh in ANYBA history because every
since he's been playing basketball, he's had media, twenty four
hour news cycles, cameras.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
He also has the children on his back. Let's just
on a tattoo, rob And that's.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
What I'm saying. Right there, you a grown man, hold
him back. This dude was seventeen, sixteen years old when
he got the tattoo on his back. You're gonna hold it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
No, But I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But I'm just saying, when you when you're the chosen
and you call yourself King James and all that that
comes with it.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
It's not like he just came and he played basketball
and he wound up being this. The Bulls didn't pick
Michael Jordan up from the airport when he was drafted.
I mean, like, okay, but okay, he wasn't the number
one pick. He wasn't the number one pick.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Jordan. He did not name himself Air Jordan. That's just
the nickname.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
We get you, I know, right.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
We gave him King James because it's King James Bible.
We gave him that name, King James. Yes, he put chosen,
but he was seventeen, so you can't hold it against them.
And that God said, I think a lot of mj
That's where he benefits. Where he didn't have social media
and microphones and cameras follow him his entire life and
we don't. He's kind of still a mystery. So Lebron
(19:29):
is an open book, where like MD and all those
old dudes, old dinosaurs, we don't know anything about them.
So I think we.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Know stuff about them. It's different, it's definitely a different time.
It's definitely a different time. Yeah, But also Lebron has
benefited from that, the notoriety and all the attention from
all the social media.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
It goes both ways, both ways, but it goes both ways.
That's why, of course.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
But he also can put out a tweet to three
five million people or whatever. Does he have a Kelvin
eight million followers or whatever?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Eight million? What?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I don't know what it is if you're talking Instagram,
But off the top of my head, I don't know
what it is. It's probably one hundred and forty fifty million,
just off the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I don't know what's looking up right now.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
See all right, Greg and Florida one hundred and fifty
nine million followers.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
There you go, Yeah, my Greg in Florida. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Radio Rob Rob.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
Great show, guys, Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Listen.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
I just got an opinion here, Lebron he's done it all, okay,
but it's time for him to retire. He's got businesses,
he's made.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
He's a billionaire. Let some of these other young guys
come in and.
Speaker 10 (20:50):
Draw a paycheck.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
I mean, come on, he said the records. I'll listen to.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You, all right.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Well, you know I'm with you on the retirement thing.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I want to try to retire that Nia. It's not
about to retire.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I know he's but I know he's not. But that
doesn't mean I shouldn't say. When you stick around too long,
this is what happens. Like seriously, I don't want you
do You don't want to You don't want to stick
around too long? You don't because we talk about all
the time, all of a sudden, you won four championships
in twenty four years, and it doesn't look as good
or feel as good because you've been around too long,
(21:24):
or you have another year you and you and Luca
don't make it, you know what I mean, don't get
to the finals. Oh he had Luca and they couldn't
even get to the finals. Like that starts to count
against you.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
No, my thing is too I don't mind him still
playing whatever. He's twenty five, eight and eight is incredible.
But my thing is, yeah, but he ain't stopping nobody
on the right. But I don't need him to always
have to jump into everything, you know what I mean,
like jumping every time, jumping in this do this podcast?
Like and I think it's okay to as you know,
kind of fall back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Just you don't have to.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
You don't have to give us every bit of you
all the time, is what I would just say. Like,
we're getting his thoughts on Twitter, we're getting in to
he's mad. I thought I was the Wash King. I
just think it's okay for him to be like, Dude,
you're the face of the league. Still, you're still that guy.
You're coveted in the community, and you don't always have
to be on everything, talking about everything at all times.
(22:15):
That would be my one little thing he could play
because he still competed at a high level. I have
no problem with that, but that will be my thing
as far as the.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Exposure in every single conversation.
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Speaker 5 (22:37):
All Right, it is the Couple, Rob Parker Kelvin Washington
on a Funky Flashback Friday. We're joined now by our
guy Mark Funky co Medina.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
What's up Mark?
Speaker 9 (22:48):
Walking in music? Hey, Hey, Kelvin. I apologize in advance,
but for the first time ever, I think Rob and
I agree on something. The next choked game, one, of.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Course they did. It was a huge choke. There's no
doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
All Right, Well you're telling me they're.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Almost choking game too, Tyry Toliburton didn't play well the
first half of It's still a close game somehow.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
That's what I said. I said that if I was
a Nick fan, i'd be worried. And now in the
second half, I don't know. Kelvin I wanting to heat up.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, he hitting threes out here.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Yeah, But I think more than anything for me just
as a fan, like this is what I want, and
who you know? You want a great series? You out
of fact goes back to what Rob and I talked about, Mark.
You don't want twenty point blowouts all the time. And okay,
see they're almost being victimized for how good they are
meeting nobody's watching. It's like, okay, yeah, because they're that good.
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What do you think of that?
Speaker 9 (23:42):
I agree, you always won close playoff games. You want
the drama, the unpredictabilities, you know, the guys playing the hero,
the team's you know, doing the choke jobs. That's a
lot more exciting playoff basketball. Than these twenty point blowout
cruise type wins. But you know, the Thunder aren't doing
anything wrong. I think that clearly their depth and star
(24:03):
power is a lot better than Minnesota. And while I
do give Minnesota credit that you know, Anthony Edwards is
taking this game to another level and they have a
lot of good bench steps. You know, the Lakers with
no defense, the Warriors about Steph Curry for most of
the series, much different caliber opponents than what they're facing
against the Thunder.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
How about the I want to go with the Pacers.
Did everybody fall asleep on them because they weren't talked
about it all this year? And they went to the
Eastern Conference finals last year? And I know Kelvin and
I we we we've raised our hands. We didn't talk
about the Pacers at all. I can't remember at all
(24:47):
ever talking about the Pacers. Now.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Yeah, rob Robbi, you orts too busy ripping Jj Reddick
as a Lakers chachrus.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Oh wait, wasn't the Coach of the Year? Oh no, right, okay.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Yeah, I think he got a few votes actually.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Though well got your vote and his uncles.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
I think he did not give my vote. But Rob,
you are on to a good point. You're having a
pretty good track record recently. This week, Yeah, we did
talk about the pace we missed.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Thet missed them, and here here's where the reason was.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
They had a very inconsistent season. Part of it because
Tyres Halburn was dealing with some injuries and he played
with some inconsistency. But Thesetern Conference landscape, the Cleveland Cavaliers
are dominating mostly the Boston Celtics when they wanted to,
and so because of that, there just seemed to be
so much separation between those two teams that mari major injuries,
(25:41):
it was going to be up for them for grants.
So here's the thing, Rob, Yes, Cleveland had injuries with
Darius Garland DeAndre Hunter. Obviously, the Celtics had some issues
Jason Tatum with the achilles, chrisoffs Porzingis with his upper
respiratory issue. But both of these teams underachieved regardless of injuries.
They were never in the series. And partly that has
to do with Indiana raising their game to another level
(26:03):
against Cleveland, and partly that has to do with the
Knicks against the Celtics showing that you know what that
they just buckle down and play tough those defense like
Thibodeaux wants them to. They'll be all right.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Mark Fucky Comedina is our guest joining the y.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
A cup of Robin Kelvin.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I mean, you know, staying with this series, Tarry Syler
Burton is having kind of one of those moments where
everybody knew the name, everybody knew he was a pretty
good player for a good player, but he's having that
breakout postseason moment.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What do you make of his run and just and.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Actually statistically him being the most clutch player right now,
even more so than Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 9 (26:42):
Yeah, I think he can go neck to neck. I
think there's some stats showing that from what he did
with some of those game winners against Cleveland, you know,
the back to back clutch plays. I think only Lebron
James had done that in NBA PLOTF history, as well
as Michael Jordan's. So that's saying one thing. I think
the other thing is that, yeah, it's easy to downplay
(27:02):
the overrated poll because clearly he's not overrated. He's a
really good passing point guard. But I think they they
were onto something that he was inconsistent as a score. Now,
some of this again had to do with his injuries
earlier in the season, but his trainer, Drew Hannele was
talking to me a few weeks ago where he was
detailing that he's always in his ear about you got
(27:22):
to be aggressive, you got to look to attack, and
sometimes you're being too selfish by being unselfish, meaning you're
looking to pass the right right at the score. And
I think that he's taken his game to another level.
Speaker 10 (27:36):
You know.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
I think the poll is a nice little ship for him.
But I think the other thing is what in high
stakes games he has risen to the occasion. And you
add it all up. They play with a fast paced
I think they have eleven guys that average several digits
in minutes. Their deft is just so much to handle.
And you know what, they're the real deal. The next
you're going to have their ends full.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
If the Nicks don't win tonight, I just I don't
know how to do there is over.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, they have to have to win. They have to win,
and uh it's a dog fight here. TIBs like like,
if they don't win the Knicks, is he in trouble
or is he safe because he got to the Eastern
Conference finals, because that that would be interesting if say
the Knicks fade Calvin, you know what I mean, Like
(28:21):
you always say that they want out of gas, will
you go?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
You know what, maybe it's time to move on from TIBs.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
Yeah, I think that they're going to keep them because
of what you said. They just got to the Eastern
Conference files for the first time since the nineties. You know,
I think there's always uh, it's not so much if
you win or lose, but how you lose. I can
define a coach to senior or whether the front office
makes drastic changes. But I'll push back on TIBs and
(28:48):
the hole he's playing guys too many mins of wearing
them out. I think the reason that they've been playing
a lot of minutes has correlated to them being playoff
ready and ready in the Futch. Now, Indiana is a
lone exception where they have a deep rotation because they
have the continuity, they have good role players. But a
lot of times when you're having teams that are having
(29:10):
deep rotations, it's because you don't have a lot of
good options number one and number two. Sometimes you dilute
the effectiveness of just guys, rhythm and chemistry and all that,
and so I'm fine with Tibbs the way he's managed
Mark I.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
But Mark I don't agree at all though, because I
look at the Celtics last year, a bunch of guys
who can shoot, dribble, pass and score and that's how
they got you.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I look at what the thunder and doing a bunch
of guys.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
You even mentioned the depth of the Minnesota has So
I think what we've seen lately has been teams with
her having some depth, and that Cleveland had a bunch
of you know, depth, that's why they were so good
throughout the season.
Speaker 9 (29:44):
And so I think that that's yeah, that's fair, that's fair, Calvin.
But I mean, you coach the roster you have, right,
So I think Tis made the cacolate.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
I think he purposely saying, hey, don't give you a
bunch of guys because you know, if you look at
my track record.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I ain't playing them anyway. Give me, give me a
good seven And what one last thing?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
If where will we look at and think of Rick Carlile.
We got a minute to go if he gets if
he gets to the finals, like seriously, like he already
won a championship. He had turned that Piston team around
before Larry Brown showed up. Well, we start to look
at Rick Carlile and think of how good of a
coach he is.
Speaker 9 (30:22):
He's I think he's already well liked as a coach, respected.
I mean, he led the MAVs to the championship. They've
been always very consistent when he was there. The fact
that he did with Indiana isn't surprising. His Hall of
Fame candidacy has already been cemented. But if he does
this with Indiana, it's just another cherry on top of
the Sunday Rob.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
That is a great point, man, Jim Carrey is doing
a great ta. Rick Carlisle is doing a great job. Hey,
Mark man, enjoying the weekend as always. Appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
Appreciate you if you're saying Rick Carlisle, Jim Carrey, I
whope you guys, O main top Tiboda Chef Daniels.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Oh god, no, I got to think of something better
than that.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
No, No, all right, thanks, I appreciate you, guys. And
Rick Carlo has a close friend is Bruce Hornsby.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Did I tell you that story? No?
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, he's really he's close friends with Bruce Hornsby and
he came to the Palace once for a game and
we got to meet him on what I love his
music Bruce Hornsby in a range and U, which is
pretty cool, you know what I mean, like because I
really dig his music.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
What's the correltion?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
No, they were just friends.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I don't I don't remember exactly like how they met
or whatever, but they were really good like friends, not
like Starstrus.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
That's the real odd couple. Yeah, who's.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
No, Bruce Hornsby and you is actually really it totally
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
You are right the way it is, Madeline Rain, how much?
Which one is your jam?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Those are? That's just the way it is. It's a
great song, all right.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
That was just making sure that maybe that's what it is,
because you know, the whole Celtics team. You had them
going to Grateful Day with Bill Walton, So maybe they
just were hanging out with all the you know, the
the big time music stars back then, Magic and Zeke
hanging out with Michael Jackson going on tour with him.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And the other one was a Weita Franklin used to
show up all the time at the Palace and I,
Oh my god, when I got to meet her one
on one, it was awesome.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
She was Was she sassy? Because one thing about the
Queen she knew, she knew who she was.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
She was definitely she was sweet when I got to
meet her.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
I just know I've been in a good way, sad
like you don't like Cole Like I know who I am.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Hey cause she yeah, any time I've ever heard.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Because Rob can't sing, That's why she's not sassy.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Yes, I won't gonna go there, Mary mac all right,
it's time for last call, Rod.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
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Speaker 1 (32:39):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine,
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Speaker 5 (32:59):
Fox Sports Radio s the I Cover Rob Parker, Kevin Washington.
One more time for you boys on the fucking Flashback Friday.
Hopefully you've been having a great well getting ready to
have some fun this weekend. Who I'm sure a lot
of people getting out of town or maybe standing in town.
Will get ready to get on that grill, the whole nine.
All right, Rob, it's that time. It's side for last.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Call, Come last call. Who we got me?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I'm calling?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Okay? What you call? Who you calling?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
The idea that USC and Notre Dame might not continue
its rivalry. I mean, did you hear Petro's Papadakis from
our sister station here in Los Angeles? Yep?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, he was not happy.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
No, of course, he was a running back for the
USC Trojans and took it out a little bit on
Lincoln Riley and our coal hoard here in Fox Sports Radio,
Colin Cowardy, We're not We're not happy about it.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Where are you on this?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I mean this is because because you were breaking down
all these traditions, and I get why, like somebody like
Petros would be upset, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Because he played a part of.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
It's a it's a big part of the school's history.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And not only that ride.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I think what we often forget is, especially like you
Sai mentioned former players, that is what made college great, right,
especially those guys. I wasn't getting paid most guys, and
it was about the tradition. It was about the big
game three four game. You know, I grew up in
an arburn Michigan. Come on, dog and Arbor. If not
playing Ohio State, can you imagine that? If all, Yeah,
(34:45):
they would burn the town down. Michigan was just like, hey,
you know the big tennis popping. Now we got a
bunch of teams, so we just gonna cancel Michigan Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Are you both states with riot?
Speaker 5 (34:57):
And my point is because you could be si what
I don't know, six and five, six and six, and
then that last game of the game.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
A lot of Michigan, a lot of Michigan coaches. Lloyd
Carr was able to hang.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
On for a while because he had a whole bunch
of eight and four five seasons, but he would win
against Michigan or at least, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Win to lose one win what like that.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
And that's how John Cooper got run out of Ohio
State because he couldn't beat Michigan.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
And they were just on your boys head this year.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
So I just think it's one of those national I know, right,
He's like, couldn't be Michigan, Which one y'all want?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Which one y'all won? Yeah, they got a national Championship,
and so.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
It's I use that as example because of something I'm
personally attached to.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I know what it's like. I went to that game.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
I was just telling you the other day where in
ninety seven where they it was a final game of
the season and both teams are great. He was going
to decide who's going to win the Big Ten and
all this good stuff, and Charles Woodson returns a punt
for a touchdown, him and David Boston getting to it
in the end zone. It was just and that cement
to him as a heisman that got them to the
National Championship. Game point being those games, those rival those
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things matter especially to old players because that's what they had.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I knew I had to play s CE.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I knew I had to play, But I wonder, rob
G being a native, where are you on like just
the whole I know you got a question, but I
would just want to know, as an LA guy, you
know what I'm saying, like that's a part of your
is ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
And my question is and I'd ask this to Lincoln
Ryer because he seeds to be the one who's pushing
this the most. He doesn't want to play it in
the age that we have now, with the expanded playoff field,
you can lose three or four games and still get in.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
This is not the BCS era.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
We're like, Man, if we lose the Notre Dame in
week ten, no matter what happens, we might not be
in the mix. Like this should be the time if
any where. Yeah, we'll schedule some tough games because if
we're playing in the Big ten and we go eight
and four and our losses are to Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan,
we might still get into the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Before I remember doing radio doing that with Michigan. As
soon as they lost one game, the season was over,
you know what I mean. On two games was over.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
You know, and you scared to schedule certain people and
scared to do certain things. And it got bad like
that for what because it was almost Floyd Mayweather pockeat.
We started to see people avoiding each other and not
want to play, not scheduling some good games, and so
you're absolutely rob gee, go play them. Everybody wants to
see it. Keep a little bit of tradition. We know
kids are getting paid and things are changing. You don't
(37:26):
get a little bit, please we need some tradition. Otherwise,
what is an NFL like? You know what I mean,
baby NFL. So I just yeah, man, just keep a
little bit enjoying the weekend though, everybody, whatever you're getting into,
if you're going anywhere, or whatever you might be into,
enjoy your Memorial Day weekend has some fun
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and Kelvin, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I mean the Knicks and the pace. This is a
close game.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I mean yes, I mean think about where the Pacers are.
You know we talked about earlier six and a half
point underdogs. They're right in this game in the first half.
They gotta feel great because you would have thought after
blowing Game one, the Knicks would come out with vengeance
and you know, try to run them out the gym
and the crowd and you know what I mean, Ben
(01:58):
nailing threes and they pay down by twenty and we're
not gonna let this happen.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Instead, the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Are hanging around the way they want to be, and
they can steal this now. They can steal this game
right here.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I don't they don't.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Neither one of these teams strike me as a fearful
or scared type, like, hey, we're in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
City, we're a Mads Square guard. Let's get it.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
And I think the Knicks can be down oh two
and go into uh and then that Indiana and be like,
all right, you know what we need to go up
now be two to one. Let's go to the next game,
let's win in B two two Like they're both to me,
which is a it's a compliment to their teams. Uh
that their their mindset is we can win on the road,
we can win wherever, and what type of situation you
actually heard Halliburton have talked about that, like we we
(02:39):
can win in a multitude of ways. Uh, and and
ugly games type games, fast games. And I'm just saying
that if you're feeling good, right, if you're a nick fan,
you're like, really, it's gonna be like a nail bier.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Like, well, they're hanging on a brunts and brunts and
brunts and we got we got clutch, do you know
what I mean? Yeah, they're hanging on to that, even
though the most clutch play all year has been Tyre's haliburt.
We had those stats the other day, twelve out of
fourteen c cration five.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Or six in the playoffs is right now.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And the other thing too, I don't know what the numbers,
rob g. He hadn't done anything. That's the scary part.
Am Ill, Right, Halliburton, I don't I'm watching, you know,
as we're doing the show. Yeah, and I don't see it.
He's just like five or six assists.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, he has no points, zero point and they're in
this game. Do you see what I'm saying. But remember
when we said run thirty one the other.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Night, he has zero points and there did he just
score right there the first bucket and the Knicks are
only up by one.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Now that's what I'm talking about. Well, and this is why.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I think he's really good at knowing his team, Like
I'm gonna set guys up, I'm gonna get guys going.
I'ma and then there will be that moment where he's like,
all right, I gotta go get some buck I gotta
be more aggressive, I gotta get my shot. And that's
something I think Brunson actually can get better. And they've
done a good job with this game Brunton, because forty three.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
He only got thirteen in the first half.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, but they're they're letting Cat cook.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
He has twelve in the second quarter at least now,
So I like that he's getting Cat involved and kind
of your.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Cat has thirty four five the other night. I'm just saying,
thirteen from Brunting is a drop.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I'll take that, No, but I'll take that I don't
because I don't need one hundred and twenty plus thirty
plus points f him.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I don't want to win that way. I want to
win one of I just want to win. If I'm
the Knicks, I just want to win. I'm not looking
at the score. I get it, Rob.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I'm looking at my bench, Rob, and I'm saying, we
play two guys, literally, but that's that's.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Not gonna change. You think he's going to change now?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
No, what I'm saying is then I can't run us
ragged where guy's a gasping and I look at but he's.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Not okay, So who's going to score the points?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Is what I'm saying to you, is that he's not
changing his uh his rotation.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Now.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
No it's not the no, no, no, it's not the
points or who's the rotation. It's I have to then
pace myself because I'm going to be gassed if this
goes into the very last minutes of the fourth or
if this were to ever going overtime again when I'm
playing these core four or five guys, crazy minutes crazy, like.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Dude, it almost no possibility.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Like if they go to the finals, right, who is
literally the Knick's gonna have to be like Josh hart Mchev.
You know it's bad when the Iron Man. Remember a
couple of months ago he said, hey man, we need
a break. When you get the Iron Man literally going
to the outlets, the media outlets and saying.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We need to break.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
We gotta trust our bench more like, that's when you
know it's like.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
God lead the Iron Man is even calling for it.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
So I just wonder, at a certain point, do out
this could potentially be a tough series. Potentially if you
be a tough finals, do they just collapse?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I just if I'm the Pacers, I gotta be thrilled
to be not getting run out of the building after
that last game.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
That's all. Let's do this.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Rob g set up a Lebron James uh and basically
I don't I don't know. He's not happy that the
older guys, I guess, aren't crowning him, aren't endorsing him,
aren't telling everybody that he's the greatest, because of course
when they don't say that, he has an issue with
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the old heads.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Rob the Lebron is lucky that these comments came in
the middle of the conference finals, because if this was
like the middle of February.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
This may have been a big story.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Now Lebron's been having this war against the old heads
as he calls them, for a couple of years now.
Specifically it seems like with Chuck and Shack and all that.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, those guys, because they have a big platform and
everybody watches.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
So that's why it has an issue with Charles.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
So on the last and the latest episode of Mind
the Game that the latest season with him and Steve Nash,
they did this.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Whole never miss mind again.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Okay, I know he don't and that that podcast or
that video podcast is meant to say, celebrate the game
of basketball. Which is interesting because at the end of
the last episode they'd already finished what they were going
to talk about and the creativity of guys like y'oll
get your brunz and this on and so forth. And
after they're done recording or they're done with the episode,
Steve Nash says something to Lebron like, had I love
(07:16):
what you said about the beauty of the game, and
you know how we should appreciate what we're seeing. For
whatever reason, they stuck this at the end of the podcast.
You know again, they finished recording, And here's what Lebron
said about the quote unquote old.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Heads and the way they view today's game of basketball.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
And then like the generation they talk so much about
the day today and it makes you go back and
watch the game back then and it makes you not
even want to appreciate it no more like I did
with another kid, like it was like.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
That's a great point. That's let me go back and
watch now. It doesn't feel as good as it did.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
At the time. It does not, but it was great.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
It was the best on the planet.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It was great.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Or you know these guys there say what came befriend
you your friends with that?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Where are you smiler?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
On the and then someone goes to find a clip
of like you standing next to this guy during the
finals smiling and laughing. It's like, can we just be
honest with if you just be honest?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
It's just typical Lebron because if they were singing his praises,
he wouldn't have an issue with the old Heads.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
And that's really what it boils down to.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
He can make it, but the idea that you wouldn't
appreciate what other people have done previous is mind boggling
to me because it's only the NBA. We've talked about
this before, It's only the NBA. The jealousy factor is
through the roof. I just don't like. I really like
(08:44):
it is an era that was played right, but you
don't need to bash that like the JJ Reddick right.
Everybody's a plumber and a butcher to make this era
feel better to you. That's what I don't understand. That
was the best that was there at the time. There
were only eight teams in the NBA. There wasn't a
(09:04):
loaded rosters with guys who really couldn't play like I
don't understand because I don't believe Lebron would say the
same thing. If they were saying he's the goat and
he's the best player they ever saw, I don't believe
he would be going back. He just doesn't like when
people aren't on board with him, so that's why he
(09:27):
didn't like Charles Barkley and he went after him because
of the stuff that they've said. It's always a war
against everybody who's just not on board. Everybody's not going
to like you, everybody's not going to be on your team.
Everybody's not going to think you're the greatest player ever.
It's okay, It's okay. People say I'm a Lebron hater.
(09:48):
I think he's the second best player of all time.
That's a hater.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
A hater is Paul Pierce who says he's not in
the top ten.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Like, how do you say somebody's second greatest of all
time and I'm a hater?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I watch both and I do have that is that
I actually watched both players career. Okay, And a lot
of the guys who are now you know, got.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Shows and taught they didn't watch Michael Jordan. They didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, so a couple a bunch of things.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Actually, one thing I'll disagree with you on as I
actually agree with quite a bit of what you said.
One thing I'll disagree is I do think a part
of Lebron isn't just mad that they hate on him.
I do believe absolutely that plays a part of it.
He's got an ego he want you know, he knows
where he is and wants to be considered the greatest.
But I also do believe that he hates that they
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talk about this current game, whether it's they shoot too
many threes, or they fragnize. And I do think because
he views himself as the statement statesman, as the elder statesman,
as the face of the league.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
One second, Lebron himself said they shoot too many.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Three No, no, no, I hear you.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
What I'm saying is I think so if I make
an indictment on the game, if I say the game
ain't this or the game ain't that under my leadership,
right under my tenure as the face of the league,
well that's an indictment on me. And I think that's
a part of it is. I think he looking at
himself as the governor of the league. Also came out
against the nd season tournament. Who didn't want that.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I'm just saying, these are things like you know, the
these are some of the things that people don't like
about the game, and the threes particularly.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
That's all. I didn't play that kind of basketball.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
But this is what I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
But Lebron, where I will give him credit is that
we all know he's an extreme student of the game, right,
so he has that all he respace comes right, oh man,
what Larry Bird used to do. He's one of those
I go out of my way to praise the older
guys to talk about what I studied, what I saw.
He shows them respect and he praises the younger guys.
Go and man, all I love with Katie's art, not Katie.
I love what SGA is doing. I love what Amen
(11:52):
he So he kind of is that person who bridges
honor and respected all ushering in the new So you
think there's an element in him is like, if I
feel like I'm doing it the right way, why are
we getting crapped on him? But here's what he has
to understand. And this is where I agree with you.
Everybody ain't gonna like you. Yeah right, and watch this Rob.
(12:13):
What he's dealing with is what Rob Parker kelvin Washington
and everyone else is dealing with.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Everybody's got a microphone.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Now see he out in the era where there was
a Rob Parker and a somebody else covering the beat
and then they write an article and that was pretty
much it. And then they have a one weekly show
maybe of some reporters and that's it. Buddy, we got
twenty four to seven all over the place. Everybody. You
have literally food brands that have networks. Do you know
there's a Chick fil A network like everybody has a network,
(12:41):
everybody has a microphone, everyone has a podcast, including.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
One of his good friends, Draymond Green.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
So my point is, I think he's paying attention too
much to the volume out there, too much to what
people are saying, too much to what everybody is, you know,
had their ideas, and I think he's over even exposing
himself where we have Sometimes less is more. It's okay
to be a Jay Z and Michael Jordan Beyonce in
that they don't do every interview, rob they don't do
(13:09):
every podcast, And I think Lebron shares his thoughts almost
too much at times where it's like you don't have
to jump into every conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You don't have to jump on this pod and jump on.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
This interview and tweet this and instagram net because you
open yourself up when you always have an opinion that
we got to go back on your opinion, then we
got to talk about it all those sports debate shows.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So I think there is a little bit of Lebron.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I will say, you know, one of his big homies,
jay Z, maybe he's kind of fall back a little
bit on always telling us what you think you're projecting
and doing every interview every pod. You know know what
I mean, because then it comes to becomes back and forth,
and some of that can be eliminated. But I just
think we have more access to any and everyone's thoughts,
and he needs to understand people are just getting their
thoughts off. People are just getting their opinions off. Everybody's
(13:52):
not gonna like you, everybody's not gonna like the game,
and you can tune some of that out. And last
point where I strongly disagree with him. When I go
back and watch those eighties and nineties, I love it, boy,
I love it. I go back and watch Lakers versus
Celtics once a year. I go back and watch Last
Dance once a year. I go back and watch Miller
Time thirty for thirty with Reggie and the Knicks once
(14:13):
a year. I watched The Bad Boys Dot twice a year.
So I strongly disagree. That makes me go, Steve, that's
gonna gonna agree with him, Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Sdeve, you gotta relax.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Come on, Steve, Really, that was some fun hoops then
and it's fun hoops now to watch.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And I can understand maybe I don't know these people.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I don't know all of them personally like Lebron does.
Maybe he takes a person because he knows them. But David,
I love it. I go get my chips and guatt
get me some chili, cheese, friedos or whatever I'm having
that day, and I.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Enjoy it all right.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
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Speaker 4 (14:51):
And I guess it's real simple. Do you agree with Lebron?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Do you not appreciate the old days because they're so
outfront and ripping the game the way played today and
they don't like it? And the older players have you know,
talked about it? And do you agree with that? Agree
with Lebron? It makes you not want to appreciate the
old heads. It is the odd couple on a funky
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I talking about Lebron had something to say to this
podcast Mind the Game, he and Steve Nash and essentially
saying he's tired of the old heads hating and always
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having something negative to the tune of the fact that
when he goes back and watch those old games, Robbie
don't hit the same. And that's where I disagree with him.
I don't hit the same To me, I love him.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I love him. Give me an old nostalgia and let's
just be honest about it.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You can look and say, how did those guys score
that many points with the kind of defense they were playing?
The spacing the average thirty some on my point, no threes,
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's actually impressive
the old heads, don't you think?
Speaker 8 (16:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I also just think what he's kind of missing is
and he's a stude enough to think this.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Hat, Rob, your favorite kind of music is what like genre,
all time favorite Yeah, like a genre. Is it rock?
Is it soft frog? Is it hip hop? Is it probably.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Soft frock?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
The reason I say that is minus hip hop. So
I'm of an age where maybe people ten years my senior.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Year is the eighties soft rock or what would that
be because.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It's really rock.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yeah, eighties rolesse and that's that's some yacht rock or
blue Eye Soul up in there too, So minus hip hop.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And the reason I say that is.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
This happens all the time right where my generation did
it better. And sometimes he has to just kind of
know that, like, boy do I don't know about that
hip hop? Let me tell you something cool g Ratt,
you know what I mean? And rock KEIVI and there no, man,
I'm telling you something about jay Z and I. It's
like that's gonna happen. Boy, Yeah, he's all right, But
you ain't never seen doctor J. You ain't say Juliet
George Gervin like people, some people are gonna do that
(17:37):
and they're gonna prefer what they saw in their time.
And it happens. And I think he's taking it a
little bit too hard to heart. And again I think
it's because he feels like he's the governor of this era,
his hero. It's exactly. It's an indictment on me. So
that's just my thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Age seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Dion in Texas.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports. What's up, Dion?
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Hey, what's up guys. It's being hard again in this week.
But had a great, great.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
Show all week.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You thank you?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Hey. You know, Yeah, here's the statesman. He's the he's
been you know, he's been the face of the lead
for so long. I don't think that, man, you know,
I think a lot of these old heads. I think
Lebron's the most scrutinizler uh in ANYBA history because every
since he's been playing basketball, he's had media, twenty four
hour news cycles, cameras.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
He also has the children on his back. Let's just
on a tattoo, rob And that's.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
What I'm saying. Right there, you a grown man, hold
him back. This dude was seventeen, sixteen years old when
he got the tattoo on his back. You're gonna hold it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
No, But I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But I'm just saying, when you when you're the chosen
and you call yourself King James and all that that
comes with it.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
It's not like he just came and he played basketball
and he wound up being this. The Bulls didn't pick
Michael Jordan up from the airport when he was drafted.
I mean, like, okay, but okay, he wasn't the number
one pick. He wasn't the number one pick.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Jordan. He did not name himself Air Jordan. That's just
the nickname.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
We get you, I know, right.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
We gave him King James because it's King James Bible.
We gave him that name, King James. Yes, he put chosen,
but he was seventeen, so you can't hold it against them.
And that God said, I think a lot of mj
That's where he benefits. Where he didn't have social media
and microphones and cameras follow him his entire life and
we don't. He's kind of still a mystery. So Lebron
(19:29):
is an open book, where like MD and all those
old dudes, old dinosaurs, we don't know anything about them.
So I think we.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Know stuff about them. It's different, it's definitely a different time.
It's definitely a different time. Yeah, But also Lebron has
benefited from that, the notoriety and all the attention from
all the social media.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
It goes both ways, both ways, but it goes both ways.
That's why, of course.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
But he also can put out a tweet to three
five million people or whatever. Does he have a Kelvin
eight million followers or whatever?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Eight million? What?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I don't know what it is if you're talking Instagram,
But off the top of my head, I don't know
what it is. It's probably one hundred and forty fifty million,
just off the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I don't know what's looking up right now.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
See all right, Greg and Florida one hundred and fifty
nine million followers.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
There you go, Yeah, my Greg in Florida. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Radio Rob Rob.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
Great show, guys, Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Listen.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
I just got an opinion here, Lebron he's done it all, okay,
but it's time for him to retire. He's got businesses,
he's made.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
He's a billionaire. Let some of these other young guys
come in and.
Speaker 10 (20:50):
Draw a paycheck.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
I mean, come on, he said the records. I'll listen to.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You, all right.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Well, you know I'm with you on the retirement thing.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I want to try to retire that Nia. It's not
about to retire.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I know he's but I know he's not. But that
doesn't mean I shouldn't say. When you stick around too long,
this is what happens. Like seriously, I don't want you
do You don't want to You don't want to stick
around too long? You don't because we talk about all
the time, all of a sudden, you won four championships
in twenty four years, and it doesn't look as good
or feel as good because you've been around too long,
(21:24):
or you have another year you and you and Luca
don't make it, you know what I mean, don't get
to the finals. Oh he had Luca and they couldn't
even get to the finals. Like that starts to count
against you.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
No, my thing is too I don't mind him still
playing whatever. He's twenty five, eight and eight is incredible.
But my thing is, yeah, but he ain't stopping nobody
on the right. But I don't need him to always
have to jump into everything, you know what I mean,
like jumping every time, jumping in this do this podcast?
Like and I think it's okay to as you know,
kind of fall back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Just you don't have to.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
You don't have to give us every bit of you
all the time, is what I would just say. Like,
we're getting his thoughts on Twitter, we're getting in to
he's mad. I thought I was the Wash King. I
just think it's okay for him to be like, Dude,
you're the face of the league. Still, you're still that guy.
You're coveted in the community, and you don't always have
to be on everything, talking about everything at all times.
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That would be my one little thing he could play
because he still competed at a high level. I have
no problem with that, but that will be my thing
as far as the.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
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Speaker 5 (22:37):
All Right, it is the Couple, Rob Parker Kelvin Washington
on a Funky Flashback Friday. We're joined now by our
guy Mark Funky co Medina.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
What's up Mark?
Speaker 9 (22:48):
Walking in music? Hey, Hey, Kelvin. I apologize in advance,
but for the first time ever, I think Rob and
I agree on something. The next choked game, one, of.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Course they did. It was a huge choke. There's no
doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
All Right, Well you're telling me they're.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Almost choking game too, Tyry Toliburton didn't play well the
first half of It's still a close game somehow.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
That's what I said. I said that if I was
a Nick fan, i'd be worried. And now in the
second half, I don't know. Kelvin I wanting to heat up.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, he hitting threes out here.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Yeah, But I think more than anything for me just
as a fan, like this is what I want, and
who you know? You want a great series? You out
of fact goes back to what Rob and I talked about, Mark.
You don't want twenty point blowouts all the time. And okay,
see they're almost being victimized for how good they are
meeting nobody's watching. It's like, okay, yeah, because they're that good.
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What do you think of that?
Speaker 9 (23:42):
I agree, you always won close playoff games. You want
the drama, the unpredictabilities, you know, the guys playing the hero,
the team's you know, doing the choke jobs. That's a
lot more exciting playoff basketball. Than these twenty point blowout
cruise type wins. But you know, the Thunder aren't doing
anything wrong. I think that clearly their depth and star
(24:03):
power is a lot better than Minnesota. And while I
do give Minnesota credit that you know, Anthony Edwards is
taking this game to another level and they have a
lot of good bench steps. You know, the Lakers with
no defense, the Warriors about Steph Curry for most of
the series, much different caliber opponents than what they're facing
against the Thunder.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
How about the I want to go with the Pacers.
Did everybody fall asleep on them because they weren't talked
about it all this year? And they went to the
Eastern Conference finals last year? And I know Kelvin and
I we we we've raised our hands. We didn't talk
about the Pacers at all. I can't remember at all
(24:47):
ever talking about the Pacers. Now.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Yeah, rob Robbi, you orts too busy ripping Jj Reddick
as a Lakers chachrus.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Oh wait, wasn't the Coach of the Year? Oh no, right, okay.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Yeah, I think he got a few votes actually.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Though well got your vote and his uncles.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
I think he did not give my vote. But Rob,
you are on to a good point. You're having a
pretty good track record recently. This week, Yeah, we did
talk about the pace we missed.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Thet missed them, and here here's where the reason was.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
They had a very inconsistent season. Part of it because
Tyres Halburn was dealing with some injuries and he played
with some inconsistency. But Thesetern Conference landscape, the Cleveland Cavaliers
are dominating mostly the Boston Celtics when they wanted to,
and so because of that, there just seemed to be
so much separation between those two teams that mari major injuries,
(25:41):
it was going to be up for them for grants.
So here's the thing, Rob, Yes, Cleveland had injuries with
Darius Garland DeAndre Hunter. Obviously, the Celtics had some issues
Jason Tatum with the achilles, chrisoffs Porzingis with his upper
respiratory issue. But both of these teams underachieved regardless of injuries.
They were never in the series. And partly that has
to do with Indiana raising their game to another level
(26:03):
against Cleveland, and partly that has to do with the
Knicks against the Celtics showing that you know what that
they just buckle down and play tough those defense like
Thibodeaux wants them to. They'll be all right.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Mark Fucky Comedina is our guest joining the y.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
A cup of Robin Kelvin.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I mean, you know, staying with this series, Tarry Syler
Burton is having kind of one of those moments where
everybody knew the name, everybody knew he was a pretty
good player for a good player, but he's having that
breakout postseason moment.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What do you make of his run and just and.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Actually statistically him being the most clutch player right now,
even more so than Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 9 (26:42):
Yeah, I think he can go neck to neck. I
think there's some stats showing that from what he did
with some of those game winners against Cleveland, you know,
the back to back clutch plays. I think only Lebron
James had done that in NBA PLOTF history, as well
as Michael Jordan's. So that's saying one thing. I think
the other thing is that, yeah, it's easy to downplay
(27:02):
the overrated poll because clearly he's not overrated. He's a
really good passing point guard. But I think they they
were onto something that he was inconsistent as a score. Now,
some of this again had to do with his injuries
earlier in the season, but his trainer, Drew Hannele was
talking to me a few weeks ago where he was
detailing that he's always in his ear about you got
(27:22):
to be aggressive, you got to look to attack, and
sometimes you're being too selfish by being unselfish, meaning you're
looking to pass the right right at the score. And
I think that he's taken his game to another level.
Speaker 10 (27:36):
You know.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
I think the poll is a nice little ship for him.
But I think the other thing is what in high
stakes games he has risen to the occasion. And you
add it all up. They play with a fast paced
I think they have eleven guys that average several digits
in minutes. Their deft is just so much to handle.
And you know what, they're the real deal. The next
you're going to have their ends full.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
If the Nicks don't win tonight, I just I don't
know how to do there is over.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, they have to have to win. They have to win,
and uh it's a dog fight here. TIBs like like,
if they don't win the Knicks, is he in trouble
or is he safe because he got to the Eastern
Conference finals, because that that would be interesting if say
the Knicks fade Calvin, you know what I mean, Like
(28:21):
you always say that they want out of gas, will
you go?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
You know what, maybe it's time to move on from TIBs.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
Yeah, I think that they're going to keep them because
of what you said. They just got to the Eastern
Conference files for the first time since the nineties. You know,
I think there's always uh, it's not so much if
you win or lose, but how you lose. I can
define a coach to senior or whether the front office
makes drastic changes. But I'll push back on TIBs and
(28:48):
the hole he's playing guys too many mins of wearing
them out. I think the reason that they've been playing
a lot of minutes has correlated to them being playoff
ready and ready in the Futch. Now, Indiana is a
lone exception where they have a deep rotation because they
have the continuity, they have good role players. But a
lot of times when you're having teams that are having
(29:10):
deep rotations, it's because you don't have a lot of
good options number one and number two. Sometimes you dilute
the effectiveness of just guys, rhythm and chemistry and all that,
and so I'm fine with Tibbs the way he's managed
Mark I.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
But Mark I don't agree at all though, because I
look at the Celtics last year, a bunch of guys
who can shoot, dribble, pass and score and that's how
they got you.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I look at what the thunder and doing a bunch
of guys.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
You even mentioned the depth of the Minnesota has So
I think what we've seen lately has been teams with
her having some depth, and that Cleveland had a bunch
of you know, depth, that's why they were so good
throughout the season.
Speaker 9 (29:44):
And so I think that that's yeah, that's fair, that's fair, Calvin.
But I mean, you coach the roster you have, right,
So I think Tis made the cacolate.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
I think he purposely saying, hey, don't give you a
bunch of guys because you know, if you look at
my track record.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I ain't playing them anyway. Give me, give me a
good seven And what one last thing?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
If where will we look at and think of Rick Carlile.
We got a minute to go if he gets if
he gets to the finals, like seriously, like he already
won a championship. He had turned that Piston team around
before Larry Brown showed up. Well, we start to look
at Rick Carlile and think of how good of a
coach he is.
Speaker 9 (30:22):
He's I think he's already well liked as a coach, respected.
I mean, he led the MAVs to the championship. They've
been always very consistent when he was there. The fact
that he did with Indiana isn't surprising. His Hall of
Fame candidacy has already been cemented. But if he does
this with Indiana, it's just another cherry on top of
the Sunday Rob.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
That is a great point, man, Jim Carrey is doing
a great ta. Rick Carlisle is doing a great job. Hey,
Mark man, enjoying the weekend as always. Appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
Appreciate you if you're saying Rick Carlisle, Jim Carrey, I
whope you guys, O main top Tiboda Chef Daniels.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Oh god, no, I got to think of something better
than that.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
No, No, all right, thanks, I appreciate you, guys. And
Rick Carlo has a close friend is Bruce Hornsby.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Did I tell you that story? No?
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, he's really he's close friends with Bruce Hornsby and
he came to the Palace once for a game and
we got to meet him on what I love his
music Bruce Hornsby in a range and U, which is
pretty cool, you know what I mean, like because I
really dig his music.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
What's the correltion?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
No, they were just friends.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I don't I don't remember exactly like how they met
or whatever, but they were really good like friends, not
like Starstrus.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
That's the real odd couple. Yeah, who's.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
No, Bruce Hornsby and you is actually really it totally
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
You are right the way it is, Madeline Rain, how much?
Which one is your jam?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Those are? That's just the way it is. It's a
great song, all right.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
That was just making sure that maybe that's what it is,
because you know, the whole Celtics team. You had them
going to Grateful Day with Bill Walton, So maybe they
just were hanging out with all the you know, the
the big time music stars back then, Magic and Zeke
hanging out with Michael Jackson going on tour with him.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And the other one was a Weita Franklin used to
show up all the time at the Palace and I,
Oh my god, when I got to meet her one
on one, it was awesome.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
She was Was she sassy? Because one thing about the
Queen she knew, she knew who she was.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
She was definitely she was sweet when I got to
meet her.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
I just know I've been in a good way, sad
like you don't like Cole Like I know who I am.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Hey cause she yeah, any time I've ever heard.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Because Rob can't sing, That's why she's not sassy.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Yes, I won't gonna go there, Mary mac all right,
it's time for last call, Rod.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
What's that number?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine,
six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
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Speaker 3 (32:47):
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Speaker 5 (32:59):
Fox Sports Radio s the I Cover Rob Parker, Kevin Washington.
One more time for you boys on the fucking Flashback Friday.
Hopefully you've been having a great well getting ready to
have some fun this weekend. Who I'm sure a lot
of people getting out of town or maybe standing in town.
Will get ready to get on that grill, the whole nine.
All right, Rob, it's that time. It's side for last.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Call, Come last call. Who we got me?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I'm calling?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Okay? What you call? Who you calling?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
The idea that USC and Notre Dame might not continue
its rivalry. I mean, did you hear Petro's Papadakis from
our sister station here in Los Angeles? Yep?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, he was not happy.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
No, of course, he was a running back for the
USC Trojans and took it out a little bit on
Lincoln Riley and our coal hoard here in Fox Sports Radio,
Colin Cowardy, We're not We're not happy about it.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Where are you on this?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I mean this is because because you were breaking down
all these traditions, and I get why, like somebody like
Petros would be upset, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Because he played a part of.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
It's a it's a big part of the school's history.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And not only that ride.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I think what we often forget is, especially like you
Sai mentioned former players, that is what made college great, right,
especially those guys. I wasn't getting paid most guys, and
it was about the tradition. It was about the big
game three four game. You know, I grew up in
an arburn Michigan. Come on, dog and Arbor. If not
playing Ohio State, can you imagine that? If all, Yeah,
(34:45):
they would burn the town down. Michigan was just like, hey,
you know the big tennis popping. Now we got a
bunch of teams, so we just gonna cancel Michigan Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Are you both states with riot?
Speaker 5 (34:57):
And my point is because you could be si what
I don't know, six and five, six and six, and
then that last game of the game.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
A lot of Michigan, a lot of Michigan coaches. Lloyd
Carr was able to hang.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
On for a while because he had a whole bunch
of eight and four five seasons, but he would win
against Michigan or at least, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Win to lose one win what like that.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
And that's how John Cooper got run out of Ohio
State because he couldn't beat Michigan.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
And they were just on your boys head this year.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
So I just think it's one of those national I know, right,
He's like, couldn't be Michigan, Which one y'all want?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Which one y'all won? Yeah, they got a national Championship,
and so.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
It's I use that as example because of something I'm
personally attached to.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I know what it's like. I went to that game.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
I was just telling you the other day where in
ninety seven where they it was a final game of
the season and both teams are great. He was going
to decide who's going to win the Big Ten and
all this good stuff, and Charles Woodson returns a punt
for a touchdown, him and David Boston getting to it
in the end zone. It was just and that cement
to him as a heisman that got them to the
National Championship. Game point being those games, those rival those
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things matter especially to old players because that's what they had.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I knew I had to play s CE.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I knew I had to play, But I wonder, rob
G being a native, where are you on like just
the whole I know you got a question, but I
would just want to know, as an LA guy, you
know what I'm saying, like that's a part of your
is ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
And my question is and I'd ask this to Lincoln
Ryer because he seeds to be the one who's pushing
this the most. He doesn't want to play it in
the age that we have now, with the expanded playoff field,
you can lose three or four games and still get in.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
This is not the BCS era.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
We're like, Man, if we lose the Notre Dame in
week ten, no matter what happens, we might not be
in the mix. Like this should be the time if
any where. Yeah, we'll schedule some tough games because if
we're playing in the Big ten and we go eight
and four and our losses are to Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan,
we might still get into the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Before I remember doing radio doing that with Michigan. As
soon as they lost one game, the season was over,
you know what I mean. On two games was over.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
You know, and you scared to schedule certain people and
scared to do certain things. And it got bad like
that for what because it was almost Floyd Mayweather pockeat.
We started to see people avoiding each other and not
want to play, not scheduling some good games, and so
you're absolutely rob gee, go play them. Everybody wants to
see it. Keep a little bit of tradition. We know
kids are getting paid and things are changing. You don't
(37:26):
get a little bit, please we need some tradition. Otherwise,
what is an NFL like? You know what I mean,
baby NFL. So I just yeah, man, just keep a
little bit enjoying the weekend though, everybody, whatever you're getting into,
if you're going anywhere, or whatever you might be into,
enjoy your Memorial Day weekend has some fun
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