FOX Sports Radio Weekend hosts Martin Weiss and Alex Monaco are in for Rob and Kelvin, and the guys debate whether Luka Doncic and the Los Angeles Lakers are even as good as the Denver Nuggets, and tell us if we can expect the Pittsburgh Steelers to make any noise next season. Plus, professional sports bettor and co-host of FOX Sports Radio's 'Countdown to Kickoff' Bill Krackomberger swings by to preview the upcoming season from a wagering perspective.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Give this, bunnies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
That's right, Alex Monico and Martin Wise. I'm Martin Wise,
joined here with Alex Monico, filling in for Rob Parker
and Kelvin Washington on a trash talking Tuesday, trashing the
Detroit Tigers. You stink blowing it to the Twins. It's ridiculous,
But uh, Alex, you're a Southern California guy, born and bred,
(00:49):
even though you now are traversed the networks for the
MSG networks covering the Knicks and the Rangers and whoever
else is over there the sphere.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Suppose getting ready for my fifth New York Winner. Let's
go there, you go, You could teach me a thing
or two. You survive Michigan a fifth year, Tell me
about the fifth winter.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Barely stay inside, That's what I did. But I knew
that you were super excited, as well as a lot
of Southern California was when Luka Doncics was announced and
as the newest star centerpiece for the Los Angeles like
as three years, hundred sixty five million dollars which I
(01:31):
did not realize this at the time when we were
discussing this on Saturday. Lines him up in the next
from two years from now to become the first million
ish a game player in the NBA. Oh yeah, we'll
be signing for just eighty million dollars, bud. They only
play eighty two so Luca spoiler alert, Luca will not
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play eighty two games that year, so he will make
over a million dollars per game played. But it was
all smiles and elsagundo at Lynn Lakerland for everyone who
was there. Luca donc just did a dress the crowd
of media, reporters and several of his teammates. This is
(02:15):
what young Luca had to say.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Luca, good to see it, Congratulations you mentioned and kind
of the post you put out on social media the
Championships being important to you. Here you guys lost in
the first round. You look like a different person since then.
What do you feel like You're going to bring to
that championship pursuit next year, and how do you feel
like the team is constructed to try to achieve that goal.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, honestly, I think we have a great team. We
have what we need to compete for the championship. So
that was a little bit of a Luca, a lot
of bit of Dave McManaman. But we got the point.
Lucas says, we got all we need right here. Now
here's my question to you, Monica hit me and my
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question to America at large, because when I saw Rachel
Nichols tweet this picture out, She's tweeted and said the
Lakers and Luca right now, she was straight down the middle.
She's not trying to start no stuff. Don't worry, I
will I retweet. I said, I see somebody missing Starling
(03:22):
Pop Martin. So Lucas says, we got all we need
to win a championship right here. Notably absent Austin Reeves,
Lebron James, and Lebron James Jr. From said press conference.
Now it was Lucas saying, we got all we got
right here in this room. Need to know what kind
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of like on Lakers dot Com when you click roster.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
I would really hope the ladder.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I I'd like to hypothesize he meant the ladder there
he insinuated the guys on the room, right, Martin, tell
me that's the case.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean. I put it like this man had a microphone,
a free reign to say what he wanted if he
thinks he had to insinuate nothing if he thinks.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Him Da and Marcus Smart, two of those three, as
you alluded to eloquently on Saturday, were paid not to
be at their previous teams, are enough to win a ring.
I'm gonna have to sign off right now. He had
to be, meaning Lebron and Reefs.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I will say this as much as I chastised Michael
Penix earlier in this show for talking about how he's
about to take the league over. He started three games
in his career that's far played in five. Luca has
more All pros than Michael Penicks. Michael Pennix has starts
in the NFL. I am fine with Luca Danta saying
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I have everything I need to win a championship right here.
A okay with it, because he should have a level
of understanding of what it takes to win an NBA championship,
not because he has done so, but because he lost
one in such spectacular fashion that there's some level of
I'm gonna figure this out and then to be traded
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unceremoniously from the team that you did lose that championship
with is now Oh, and I gotta show my ex
just how how much better I look at how much
more I'm going out now?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
It's Luca two point zero. This is crazy stupid love
act three. This is after the Gosply makeover baby, except
it's in the gym, not at North Trimps. But you
brought up a phenomenal point when we were talking this out.
Because I'm the Laker fan of the room here, I'm
a little emotional looking at the painting. You're a more
logical looking at the painting. Working through this, you said,
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eons Lebron is better than a running mate like PJ.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Washington was in Dallas. Sure, which is a great thought.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
And so again we gotta rebring it up based off
the Luca quote here, if Lebron had buy in, I
think they can go to see biscuit distance. The key
is going to be leadership and communication. I think the
issue is going to be the rest of the roster.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That may not be the best take, but again they did.
There are two players expected to be in the rotation,
one a most definite starter, who were paid to leave.
They were evicted from their old job. They were paid
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to leave, and now are back, you know, I mean
back working good for them, but paid to leave. And
I'm not talking for two weeks. I'm looking forever, like
you get paid to go on vacation, go two weeks
with the case that we trade all the work you
do throughout the year, oh fifty SOMEI weeks. You go
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in there and punch the clock. We'll give you two back.
Here you go. No, no, they said, we're we are.
We'd rather not. They essentially got laid off, you know.
And so you're telling me that DeAndre Ayton, who I
have not seen played meaningful basketball since Gianna's blocked his
shot in the finals all those years ago off the
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hyper extended knee. It's been that, it's been since then.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yes, but there's something to be said about again playing
meaningful basketball. Marcus Smart in the finals fifteen to five
and four. Guy had three games of three threes, one
game of four da at twenty one and nineteen in
Game one against the Bucks in the finals. Two guys
that played in the finals, a leader that got to
the finals and lost, and a guy chasing Jordan. You
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would like to think and ringless JJ Redicks Noggin he
could figure out how to get on his Jerald Butler
three hundred and lead these guys with a Pacino speech.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's been an entire presidential term since any of those
guys are in the finals. That's deep. And that's the
other thing that you mentioned. Jonathan James Reddick, who made
the genius move of Game four, says, you know what
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I've got it, I know what I'll do. I'm gonna
play My starter is the whole second half, like nobody
else has thought. I think it's a good idea to
keep my best players in as long as possible.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I'm shocked that you're not feeling a little more optimistic
about Luca Lebron and the Lakers a.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Full eighty two, which, oh, by the way, we got
a costco.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Sample of when Luca was festively plump and sad.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Listen, I think Luka Doncic can change the forces of
your franchise. I both would have traded him if I
was Dallas because I don't think you get this version
of Luka Doncics unless you do make a move. I
also would have been up there smiling like Ronald McDonald
as Luca Dodget if please let me give you a
hundred and sixty five million dollars, Please let me give
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you a hundred and sixty five million dollars, I'd be
begging please.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I'm begging you to just try to talk to Lakers
Nation that if we have buy in.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But this is you could look, you'll have the buy
you could have the buy in. But here's the problem. Okay,
see is seventy.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Rob can you back me up? Please?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Luca was taken down this SGA roster minus of Caruso
and Hartenstein with two K seventy eights.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
You know what's funny about the discourse around the Lakers
right now is outside of okay see, because you know,
the defending champ, they had the greatest regular season ever whatever,
the team that most people bring up as the biggest
third in the Western Conference of Denver Nuggets, and they're like, hey,
they got your they got Jamal Murray. You know, they're
they're legit. And he saw their offseason. What's funny is
all of the issues that Denver has is like a
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mirror image of what the Lakers are. They got Jokic,
we got Luca, they got Jamal Murray, we got Lebron.
They got a defensively challenged roster. We got a defensive
challenge roster. And yet people come in and be like, hey,
you see their offseason. They got Bruce brown back shooting
twenty eight percent from three, but he's gonna be nice
next to Yokicch.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
And it's like, why do.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
They get the benefit of the doubt with their one
championship versus the Lakers who have Luca who's been to
the finals and Lebron who's got four.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
It's a great point, mart You want to answer.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That, Yeah, I'll answer that because they got yo Kicch,
we got Luca.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
They the gap between jo Kich and Luca is not
that big.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
First of all, we have to now remeasure the gap
now that Luca's lost all that way.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, remeasure it, babe, because the.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Gap was bigger at that weight. So now we got
to remessage the gap now that Luca's lost the weight
and been out there. But I think the Nuggets did
get better, adding, of.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Course they did, but they get the benefit of the
doubt that the Lakers don't not understand it.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
They do. And also that team took the thunder.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
The seven AG's Hammy goes out might be a different
entire narrative of a playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You said that team, just to be clear, it was
not the Lakers that took them. Nowhere team right, That team,
like the Lakers, went quietly into the night by the
hands of Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
The Giants gus because Luca ate two boxes of bad
pizza and he couldn't move in Game three?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Or was it because first year JAG first year Coachiet
Medick said I'm going to burn the boats at halftime
of game four? Or was it the decision to play
Maxi Kleeber, who you know Jackson Hayes was surprised to
find out had a locker in the locker room.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Well, you know, Maxie Cleeber also got to shape this
off seven. No one's talking about it because you look
at that Men's Health article last year.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Last year, theme wise, gentlemen, it was a year of continuity.
It was the teams that had the most players, ironically
in key roles from the year prior working their way
and then you Pepper in a Caruso and a Hartenstein.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
It works out brilliantly.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
But everyone knew their said roles and they had their
set won two guys jdubn Sga, Siakham and Halley. Now
it's a whole new year. Now you got Jimmy Buckets
for a year in Golden State. You got Luca in
La for we have to reset. I feel the men
in black memory. I genuinely think we're Helli Burton Achilles
(12:37):
away from this Thunder team, the youngest team since the
late Blazers, by the way, late Bill Walton Blazers in
seventy seven from winning it all.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
I genuinely feel that way.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
So right now as I shit neuralives did all. Okay,
she is better than the Lakers. Houston with Kevin Durant
is better than the Lakers.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
But why, yeah, why, like you're so excited about it
team that got bounced in the first round.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I'm not. I'm not so excited. I'd say that. Well,
first of all, that's ironic that you would say I'm
so excited about a team that got bounced.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
You all talking about petention for winning, but the two
best players have won at a high level.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
The Rockets, to me, had a glaring issue that they addressed.
They needed to improve at The scoring guard has proved
and they get a guy who could hit open shots.
I think that team defensively misses nothing losing even though
they lost Dylan Brooks, and just gets better offensively. And
I think Kevin Durant is still a tough matchup in
the postseason surrounded by all those young dudes. Plus I
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think one of the Thompsons, the Thompson Kid, takes a
step forward. I think the Timberwolves right now are better
than the Lakers. Why do I think that? Because they
just beat the almost swore beat the Lakers pretty badly
in the first round of the playoffs last year. I
think the Nuggets right now are better than the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
But why Why? Because I think Kis is the best player.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Kis is the best player in the NBA, and they
improved that. There's Michael Porter Junior was out to lunch
unless he was hitting them. The Lakers improved their glary
weakness too.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
You just don't write the Lakers, get it.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
It's fine, listen, you're living off two thousand and four
to this day. The Pistons got one championship in your lifetime,
and you're like, yeah, f the Lakers, it's up.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
We all bum it's Martin Lakery is a Laker.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Hey, you're in the slightest But I'll tell you this,
and I say this with no shame because I'm somebody
who does it all the time. De Andre Ayton is
a five thousand dollars car off Craigslist. All right, you
can buy it. You registered, and'll cost you maybe one
thousand dollars to fix up, and you will get around.
But you ain't impressing nobody with that O four jeep chair. Kee,
you're impressing anybody.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Would Hey you get married with the four cheap carris? Yeah,
I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Can get married, but she ain't gonna love you.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Cut your car. Fifteen and ten is reliable.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Fifteen and ten. That's his career numbers. We're not asking
him to be one.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
A the second dude. You can even make a case
it's the fourth best player on the roster.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
This is what you're asking him to do. You're asking
him to go into the Western Conference playoffs and go
toe to toe with that big band serbian monster. That's
what you're asking him to do? Because what do you
Because here's I can see it now. Remember Darvinham had
the solution putting Ruey Hotsimore were out there. That's what
you sound like. I'll sund I missed the hands. No, no, no,
because cars and Hayton.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
First of all, you got a Caruso headband high different
to how many inches covering and banging up yokis if
the rests are gonna let the whistle go and he
can hand check and do all stuff that's nineties esque.
In the playoffs, all bets are off because you got
a couple of dogs on this Lakers team, like Ruy
Hatamura that could probably play a little bit of second
(15:44):
fiddle to eight knocking up yok It's the point is
is it's two top If you're not gonna call Lebron
the top ten player this year, that's fine, but he's
a top fifteen.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
I would like to think we talked to Pat Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
So two top fifteen guys and four guys that can
put the on the basket upside of fifteen twenty points
per game and a couple of two way dogs. This
is almost as much about Redick being able to manage
stars as it is going out winning games to gonna
win fifty three to fifty four games with their eyes close.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I tell you what, I'm not an agent, but if
I was, and I needed to like rehab my guys,
you know, image before they jumped overseas. Like if I'm
trying to negotiate between the Sanghai Sharks and you know,
the Korean team or whatever, I'm gonna try my best
(16:36):
to get my client signed by the Lakers, because for
two months, talking heads everywhere, we'll talk about how great
this guy is, and then it'll be a disaster when
Shanghai somehow shines him away back if the Portland Triplazers
paying green American dollars to send this guy home.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
When Lebron wins his fifth ring with the Luka Doncis
lad Lakers, it might be the most impressive one outside
of the three to one, It.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Just might be. It might be if you can, if
you know what that you want to talk about having
enough to win a championship? Do they get money back
if you buy, if you get if you like get
a buyout player, you get a rebate on that. You know,
you should think about this theod They should figure that
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on YouTube for sure. Yeah. But Alex, we've seen a
lot of YouTube videos that Martin Wise and Alex Monica
win for Rob Parker and Calvin Washington. But we've seen
a lot of YouTube videos in Twitter videos or ex
videos Instagram from training camp. And you saw a particularly
concerning one about uh, your boy, old man Rogers. You
(19:37):
Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers doing a little karaoke, not singing,
but the football drill. I know you have to clarify
because if honestly, if I told you there was like
video surfacing Aaron Rodgers at a karaoke by right outside
of trading Camp, everybody would buy it. But no, he
was doing a little karaoke, switching the hips, a little
light stepping, and Alex literally really saw this video and
(20:01):
turned to me and his face turned white as a
sheet of paper.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, a similar look to how I look in a
New York winter if this happens again, where I buy
into Rogers Martin and he cannot get out of the
way of himself. And for a man that's getting married
this week and yourself Rogers coming off a married offseason,
you would hope teamwork and being on a team and
compromise and communication is top of mind, especially when you
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come into a top ten company culture like the Pittsburgh Steelers,
which is my whole angle here, top ten talent, top
ten company culture.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Here's the thing, I am getting married on Saturday. However,
unlike Aaron Rodgers, I have been able to maneuver the
planning of my wedding and also a ten work, So
you know airs that he had a lot going on?
Now a lot going on turned out to be obstensibly
(20:58):
his new marriage. Kudos, Tim, gratulations. I'm joining the club soon.
If you have any tips Aaron on the honeymoon stage
please My Twitter is at Martin Wis.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
He's in two honeymoon stages right now, Martin, the Steelers
honeymoon stage and the households. Which one is going to
be a better honeymoon?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Oh? Are you with miss shake? I hope it's at
his house.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Are you with me at all on an optimistic Pittsburgh
Steelers season?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
No, I am not.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You think it's going to Costan's opposite You think this
is going Tomlin's streak over?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Listen, I think this thing is going Sweden right down
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My friend Martin Wise and Alex Monico with you.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Hey, thanks for having me on. Guys very well. All
was sitting here in Las Vegas and just finish some
dinner and you know, up early in the morning, go
to bed, go to bed early because they have to
be up early for this time of the year, all
the times of the year really, but especially preseason football.
These numbers just move like absolutely crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Guy, so speaking, the numbers moving crazy. Dors Sanders moving
into the starting spot for the Browns on Friday. But
to your point, you're a professional gambler. You said you
were eating dinner. This is how you actually eat. Tell
me about the preseason value because it seems to me,
(23:17):
as a guy who listens to a lot of you
guys but has not nearly the stomach to gamble with
anything that matters, that preseason has a lot of value
in there prese.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
You know, it's funny because some people will come at
me on social media and say, wow, you must be
a degenerate gambler. You're betting preseason now, cause ha ha ha,
I gotta be blunt. I wish we had preseason eighteen
weeks a year in a regular season three weeks a year. Wow,
that's the value of preseason. It's all about reading things.
It's all about having a good team, which I do.
(23:49):
They read the socials, they follow the beat reporters. We
get the best lines, the best injury information, who's not
gonna play, who's going to play. You have to know
the coaches too. You have to know what coach is
a good BS sir. I'm not trying to say they're lying,
but you know you could tell which who's gonna play with.
If a coach is aggressive as he wants to win.
Most coaches don't care. They just want a healthy squad
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for the regular season. It's the reason why the preseason
was cut from four to three weeks. So I do
get it, and I get the teams that want to
play and actually want to maybe not this week so much.
Self played their starters. But yet some teams are we
see opening night we had like Detroit, I mean they
played nobody. I mean they you know, tried guys out
the whole game, second half. I thought they were ever
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going to play some more guys. They didn't at all,
didn't care about the game. Chargers may have cared about
the game a little bit more, but uh, you know,
that's what you have to find out. They're the core
components that make up a winning sports. Better for myself,
as you could see, Alex, I sent you a couple
of tickets of some copies of tickets. We don't have
to say the amounts. They were very good amounts, but
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I don't want to look like I'm bragging or anything.
But you could see the stuff I bet at the
counter compared to the closing line. There's no sport any
time of the year that I'll take one and a
half points on a game at the counter, And it
went to seven that's right. Circa had minus seven on
the Bengals today where I showed you a ticket taking
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one and a half now. But the only bad thing
is not a lot of the sportsbooks have these lines guys.
They're scared to death to put the lines up. As
you see where I bet it at, they put the lineup.
They had it up. It was there was only one
sportsbook in Las Vegas up when the sportsbooks back East
Draftking Fanzul they had lines up. Hard Rock and Florida
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had lines up. But none of the major core casinos,
none of the big companies here in Las Vegas. One
had them up. But that's when they got a little bet.
But that's what it is. That's what it is here.
It's all about. It's a cat and mouse game and
I'm just trying to grind away and make some money. Guys.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Well, crack Alex here, appreciate you joining us. Last time
I saw you were picking up the tap because you
won and I lost and it was all in on
me and the Aaron Rodgers Jets. Now I'm following them
to Pittsburgh where I bet MGM the over is juiced
at eight and a half. Team total wins minus one
twenty even money on the under. I'm getting plus money
though on Pittsburgh crack to make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Am I on an emotional plank here?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Or is there a real merit to a top ten
talent and top ten company culture in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
Listen, you know we're very rare that you have someone
on social media talks about their losers. Everyone that's on there,
these influencers only want to talk about wins. I lost
betting under on the Steelers last year, but what happened
was the end of the year. I thought it was
gonna happen earlier. They started losing. At the end of
the year. I lost by one win. I had under
on season wins this year. Everyone is they just everyone's
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anti Rogers. Just say that people just don't like them personally,
and so actually they're betting me under again. However, myself,
I'm not betting. I'm neutral to it, not betting either way.
One thing good about bet MGM. They put up different
every week after after week one, after week two, after
week three, they put up a new adjusted line on
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season wins. I want to tell you something, Only two
or three sportsbooks in the world do that. So I
like to see what happens that first week, see what happens,
and then we go from there. To be honest with you,
I probably lean to the over with you, so because
it was it was, it was banged down to the
other for a while, and they didn't know they were
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who was going to be the quarterback? And Rogers, I
don't know. I'm not gonna say he held out because
he didn't hold out. We all kind of knew what
was happening there and we'll see what happens. Though I
leaned over with you, all right.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Crag uh. The NFC North to me is an enigma.
I feel like all those teams right now in terms
of win totals are all kind of packed together, and
I feel like I like the Lions, but the coordinators,
I don't like the Vikings, with the with the ostensibly
rookie quarterback. All they do at Bears camp apparently is
fight and the Packers Jordan Love is he feels the
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only player that you go through the supermarket and say, hey,
you know who plays for the Packers? They Jordan loved
the only answer that anybody has. I know some people,
but I'm me crack. Where are you looking at for?
The NFC North.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Listen, I bet I did just bet someone you don't
like there. I bet at bet MGM. Actually they had
plus four to seventy five on the Vikings. I thought
it was pretty good value. Backs then NFC North. Now
that the Lions at the time they were minus minus
one twenty, they're now plus one forty five at bet MGM,
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Packers plus two seventy five, Vikings plus three to one,
the Bears plus five fifty. It just so happens that
you picked the division NFC North, where I made a
ton of bets. I bet Vikings too make the playoffs.
I took a dollar ten, even laid a dollar ten.
And I actually made a bet last week just because
I was an outlier. I found the Lions at plus
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one ninety not to make the playoffs plus twent eighty
five I've seen also. Now, that's nothing to do with
that first preseason game. That means nothing. As a matter
of fact, all of these preseasons games mean nothing for
the regular season. How many times have we seen in
the past when they had four games, teams go four
to zho he's going four and the exact opposite happens
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during the season. So you pick the division that I
have a lot of bets. I also have Bears not
to make the playoffs too. I know that's upsetting for
a lot of people, a lot of Bears fans, a
lot of Chicago love. Here in Las Vegas, we get
so many people that bet on the Bears that there
is no value here in town betting on the Bears.
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The only thing you can do is anti Bears, underseason wins,
no playoffs. I chose no playoffs. There a smaller bet
on the underseason wins. But I don't know. I think
the Vikings. We'll see how this quarterback does here. I'm here.
He's a little bit better than people think, maybe in
preseason here, you know, in his workouts, in his warm
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ups and on the sidelines. But it's really maybe more
of a anti Lions bet. I think the Lions have
a real tough schedule compared to Minnesota, especially these first
the first half of the season. So we'll see what
happens here. But I am actually pro Vikings, anti Bears,
and anti Lions.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Crack.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I got one more for you here at the most
casual better wants to a slam take out the money
from the mattress and hit.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Over on Niners ten and a half wins. Well, you're
the professional here.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
It's actually juiced more on BETMGM to the under minus
one eighteen under ten and a half. We know they
don't have the first play schedule this year. Where are
you on the San Francisco Niners could be a futures
thought as well as that team.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Total.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
Okay, very popular bet here in Vegas. The last at
my co host Jeff Sports on Sunday. He likes San
fran this year, so I don't want to, you know,
burst his bubble a little bit. But they also have
MGM also has forty nine ers to make the playoffs. Yes,
minus one eighty. I think maybe that might be a
good way to go compared to the actual over under.
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But you know one thing about bet MGM compared to
most books again, and you know, I don't mean to
be doing a commercial are for BETMGM. Hell no, just
kind of telling them like it is though that now
I only know two sportsbooks in the country that actually
you can go to the alternate line and you can
bet overseason wins or under. You can go literally I'm
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looking at San Fran right at BETMGM, you can go
over four and a half or you can go under
fifteen and a half. That's crazy. I mean obviously I
like both over and under. You got a lay a
ton of juice. So look at the median ground here.
I'm gonna look at the over ten and a half
minusote two as being the median line here. Ten and
a half wins under ten and a half minus eighteen
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over ten and a half minuso two. Now, I didn't
bet this, but if anything, I may go to that
alternative line over nine and a half minus the dollars
seventy five. Again, didn't bet it. Think they're going to
be okay. Jeff Schwartz made some really good points on
our show, so I have to go with him by
you know, former football player nine years. He's really in
tune with a lot of the camps and the players.
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He knows a lot of the guys. Still he leaned
over there. I'm gonna leaneddy over there with him. But
not a bet. The bets I made I mentioned they're ready.
I'll just give you guys one crazier bet too. You're
gonna make not today, You're gonna make it more towards
game time. I'm gonna say go Eagles under. Shop around
for the best line super Bowl champs. Everyone thinks they
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have a great schedule. This is gonna be easy. You know,
the Eagles are the best team in football. I'll play
it right now. Shop around these you can go under
eleven and a half, maybe even under twelve and a half,
maybe even late two to one. I love betting against
the former Super Bowl winner the next season because I
know you're gonna have to lay juice on anything you
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do with the Eagles. That's the taxi lay. You're gonna
lay more juice on the games. You're gonna lay more
juice on the futures. Just look to go for super
Bowl champs under. That's what I always say.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
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you can check him out Saturday and Sunday mornings on
Countdown and the Kickoff. Your wallet will thank you and
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
That's right, Alex Monico and Martin Wise. I'm Martin Wise,
joined here with Alex Monico, filling in for Rob Parker
and Kelvin Washington on a trash talking Tuesday, trashing the
Detroit Tigers. You stink blowing it to the Twins. It's ridiculous,
But uh, Alex, you're a Southern California guy, born and bred,
(00:49):
even though you now are traversed the networks for the
MSG networks covering the Knicks and the Rangers and whoever
else is over there the sphere.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Suppose getting ready for my fifth New York Winner. Let's
go there, you go, You could teach me a thing
or two. You survive Michigan a fifth year, Tell me
about the fifth winter.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Barely stay inside, That's what I did. But I knew
that you were super excited, as well as a lot
of Southern California was when Luka Doncics was announced and
as the newest star centerpiece for the Los Angeles like
as three years, hundred sixty five million dollars which I
(01:31):
did not realize this at the time when we were
discussing this on Saturday. Lines him up in the next
from two years from now to become the first million
ish a game player in the NBA. Oh yeah, we'll
be signing for just eighty million dollars, bud. They only
play eighty two so Luca spoiler alert, Luca will not
(01:52):
play eighty two games that year, so he will make
over a million dollars per game played. But it was
all smiles and elsagundo at Lynn Lakerland for everyone who
was there. Luca donc just did a dress the crowd
of media, reporters and several of his teammates. This is
(02:15):
what young Luca had to say.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Luca, good to see it, Congratulations you mentioned and kind
of the post you put out on social media the
Championships being important to you. Here you guys lost in
the first round. You look like a different person since then.
What do you feel like You're going to bring to
that championship pursuit next year, and how do you feel
like the team is constructed to try to achieve that goal.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, honestly, I think we have a great team. We
have what we need to compete for the championship. So
that was a little bit of a Luca, a lot
of bit of Dave McManaman. But we got the point.
Lucas says, we got all we need right here. Now
here's my question to you, Monica hit me and my
(03:01):
question to America at large, because when I saw Rachel
Nichols tweet this picture out, She's tweeted and said the
Lakers and Luca right now, she was straight down the middle.
She's not trying to start no stuff. Don't worry, I
will I retweet. I said, I see somebody missing Starling
(03:22):
Pop Martin. So Lucas says, we got all we need
to win a championship right here. Notably absent Austin Reeves,
Lebron James, and Lebron James Jr. From said press conference.
Now it was Lucas saying, we got all we got
right here in this room. Need to know what kind
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of like on Lakers dot Com when you click roster.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
I would really hope the ladder.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I I'd like to hypothesize he meant the ladder there
he insinuated the guys on the room, right, Martin, tell
me that's the case.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean. I put it like this man had a microphone,
a free reign to say what he wanted if he
thinks he had to insinuate nothing if he thinks.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Him Da and Marcus Smart, two of those three, as
you alluded to eloquently on Saturday, were paid not to
be at their previous teams, are enough to win a ring.
I'm gonna have to sign off right now. He had
to be, meaning Lebron and Reefs.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I will say this as much as I chastised Michael
Penix earlier in this show for talking about how he's
about to take the league over. He started three games
in his career that's far played in five. Luca has
more All pros than Michael Penicks. Michael Pennix has starts
in the NFL. I am fine with Luca Danta saying
(04:46):
I have everything I need to win a championship right here.
A okay with it, because he should have a level
of understanding of what it takes to win an NBA championship,
not because he has done so, but because he lost
one in such spectacular fashion that there's some level of
I'm gonna figure this out and then to be traded
(05:06):
unceremoniously from the team that you did lose that championship
with is now Oh, and I gotta show my ex
just how how much better I look at how much
more I'm going out now?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
It's Luca two point zero. This is crazy stupid love
act three. This is after the Gosply makeover baby, except
it's in the gym, not at North Trimps. But you
brought up a phenomenal point when we were talking this out.
Because I'm the Laker fan of the room here, I'm
a little emotional looking at the painting. You're a more
logical looking at the painting. Working through this, you said,
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eons Lebron is better than a running mate like PJ.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Washington was in Dallas. Sure, which is a great thought.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
And so again we gotta rebring it up based off
the Luca quote here, if Lebron had buy in, I
think they can go to see biscuit distance. The key
is going to be leadership and communication. I think the
issue is going to be the rest of the roster.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That may not be the best take, but again they did.
There are two players expected to be in the rotation,
one a most definite starter, who were paid to leave.
They were evicted from their old job. They were paid
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to leave, and now are back, you know, I mean
back working good for them, but paid to leave. And
I'm not talking for two weeks. I'm looking forever, like
you get paid to go on vacation, go two weeks
with the case that we trade all the work you
do throughout the year, oh fifty SOMEI weeks. You go
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in there and punch the clock. We'll give you two back.
Here you go. No, no, they said, we're we are.
We'd rather not. They essentially got laid off, you know.
And so you're telling me that DeAndre Ayton, who I
have not seen played meaningful basketball since Gianna's blocked his
shot in the finals all those years ago off the
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hyper extended knee. It's been that, it's been since then.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yes, but there's something to be said about again playing
meaningful basketball. Marcus Smart in the finals fifteen to five
and four. Guy had three games of three threes, one
game of four da at twenty one and nineteen in
Game one against the Bucks in the finals. Two guys
that played in the finals, a leader that got to
the finals and lost, and a guy chasing Jordan. You
(07:48):
would like to think and ringless JJ Redicks Noggin he
could figure out how to get on his Jerald Butler
three hundred and lead these guys with a Pacino speech.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's been an entire presidential term since any of those
guys are in the finals. That's deep. And that's the
other thing that you mentioned. Jonathan James Reddick, who made
the genius move of Game four, says, you know what
(08:23):
I've got it, I know what I'll do. I'm gonna
play My starter is the whole second half, like nobody
else has thought. I think it's a good idea to
keep my best players in as long as possible.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I'm shocked that you're not feeling a little more optimistic
about Luca Lebron and the Lakers a.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Full eighty two, which, oh, by the way, we got
a costco.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Sample of when Luca was festively plump and sad.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Listen, I think Luka Doncic can change the forces of
your franchise. I both would have traded him if I
was Dallas because I don't think you get this version
of Luka Doncics unless you do make a move. I
also would have been up there smiling like Ronald McDonald
as Luca Dodget if please let me give you a
hundred and sixty five million dollars, Please let me give
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you a hundred and sixty five million dollars, I'd be
begging please.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I'm begging you to just try to talk to Lakers
Nation that if we have buy in.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But this is you could look, you'll have the buy
you could have the buy in. But here's the problem. Okay,
see is seventy.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Rob can you back me up? Please?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Luca was taken down this SGA roster minus of Caruso
and Hartenstein with two K seventy eights.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
You know what's funny about the discourse around the Lakers
right now is outside of okay see, because you know,
the defending champ, they had the greatest regular season ever whatever,
the team that most people bring up as the biggest
third in the Western Conference of Denver Nuggets, and they're like, hey,
they got your they got Jamal Murray. You know, they're
they're legit. And he saw their offseason. What's funny is
all of the issues that Denver has is like a
(10:09):
mirror image of what the Lakers are. They got Jokic,
we got Luca, they got Jamal Murray, we got Lebron.
They got a defensively challenged roster. We got a defensive
challenge roster. And yet people come in and be like, hey,
you see their offseason. They got Bruce brown back shooting
twenty eight percent from three, but he's gonna be nice
next to Yokicch.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
And it's like, why do.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
They get the benefit of the doubt with their one
championship versus the Lakers who have Luca who's been to
the finals and Lebron who's got four.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
It's a great point, mart You want to answer.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That, Yeah, I'll answer that because they got yo Kicch,
we got Luca.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
They the gap between jo Kich and Luca is not
that big.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
First of all, we have to now remeasure the gap
now that Luca's lost all that way.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, remeasure it, babe, because the.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Gap was bigger at that weight. So now we got
to remessage the gap now that Luca's lost the weight
and been out there. But I think the Nuggets did
get better, adding, of.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Course they did, but they get the benefit of the
doubt that the Lakers don't not understand it.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
They do. And also that team took the thunder.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
The seven AG's Hammy goes out might be a different
entire narrative of a playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You said that team, just to be clear, it was
not the Lakers that took them. Nowhere team right, That team,
like the Lakers, went quietly into the night by the
hands of Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
The Giants gus because Luca ate two boxes of bad
pizza and he couldn't move in Game three?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Or was it because first year JAG first year Coachiet
Medick said I'm going to burn the boats at halftime
of game four? Or was it the decision to play
Maxi Kleeber, who you know Jackson Hayes was surprised to
find out had a locker in the locker room.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Well, you know, Maxie Cleeber also got to shape this
off seven. No one's talking about it because you look
at that Men's Health article last year.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Last year, theme wise, gentlemen, it was a year of continuity.
It was the teams that had the most players, ironically
in key roles from the year prior working their way
and then you Pepper in a Caruso and a Hartenstein.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
It works out brilliantly.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
But everyone knew their said roles and they had their
set won two guys jdubn Sga, Siakham and Halley. Now
it's a whole new year. Now you got Jimmy Buckets
for a year in Golden State. You got Luca in
La for we have to reset. I feel the men
in black memory. I genuinely think we're Helli Burton Achilles
(12:37):
away from this Thunder team, the youngest team since the
late Blazers, by the way, late Bill Walton Blazers in
seventy seven from winning it all.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
I genuinely feel that way.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
So right now as I shit neuralives did all. Okay,
she is better than the Lakers. Houston with Kevin Durant
is better than the Lakers.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
But why, yeah, why, like you're so excited about it
team that got bounced in the first round.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I'm not. I'm not so excited. I'd say that. Well,
first of all, that's ironic that you would say I'm
so excited about a team that got bounced.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
You all talking about petention for winning, but the two
best players have won at a high level.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
The Rockets, to me, had a glaring issue that they addressed.
They needed to improve at The scoring guard has proved
and they get a guy who could hit open shots.
I think that team defensively misses nothing losing even though
they lost Dylan Brooks, and just gets better offensively. And
I think Kevin Durant is still a tough matchup in
the postseason surrounded by all those young dudes. Plus I
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think one of the Thompsons, the Thompson Kid, takes a
step forward. I think the Timberwolves right now are better
than the Lakers. Why do I think that? Because they
just beat the almost swore beat the Lakers pretty badly
in the first round of the playoffs last year. I
think the Nuggets right now are better than the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
But why Why? Because I think Kis is the best player.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Kis is the best player in the NBA, and they
improved that. There's Michael Porter Junior was out to lunch
unless he was hitting them. The Lakers improved their glary
weakness too.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
You just don't write the Lakers, get it.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
It's fine, listen, you're living off two thousand and four
to this day. The Pistons got one championship in your lifetime,
and you're like, yeah, f the Lakers, it's up.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
We all bum it's Martin Lakery is a Laker.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Hey, you're in the slightest But I'll tell you this,
and I say this with no shame because I'm somebody
who does it all the time. De Andre Ayton is
a five thousand dollars car off Craigslist. All right, you
can buy it. You registered, and'll cost you maybe one
thousand dollars to fix up, and you will get around.
But you ain't impressing nobody with that O four jeep chair. Kee,
you're impressing anybody.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Would Hey you get married with the four cheap carris? Yeah,
I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Can get married, but she ain't gonna love you.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Cut your car. Fifteen and ten is reliable.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Fifteen and ten. That's his career numbers. We're not asking
him to be one.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
A the second dude. You can even make a case
it's the fourth best player on the roster.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
This is what you're asking him to do. You're asking
him to go into the Western Conference playoffs and go
toe to toe with that big band serbian monster. That's
what you're asking him to do? Because what do you
Because here's I can see it now. Remember Darvinham had
the solution putting Ruey Hotsimore were out there. That's what
you sound like. I'll sund I missed the hands. No, no, no,
because cars and Hayton.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
First of all, you got a Caruso headband high different
to how many inches covering and banging up yokis if
the rests are gonna let the whistle go and he
can hand check and do all stuff that's nineties esque.
In the playoffs, all bets are off because you got
a couple of dogs on this Lakers team, like Ruy
Hatamura that could probably play a little bit of second
(15:44):
fiddle to eight knocking up yok It's the point is
is it's two top If you're not gonna call Lebron
the top ten player this year, that's fine, but he's
a top fifteen.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
I would like to think we talked to Pat Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
So two top fifteen guys and four guys that can
put the on the basket upside of fifteen twenty points
per game and a couple of two way dogs. This
is almost as much about Redick being able to manage
stars as it is going out winning games to gonna
win fifty three to fifty four games with their eyes close.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I tell you what, I'm not an agent, but if
I was, and I needed to like rehab my guys,
you know, image before they jumped overseas. Like if I'm
trying to negotiate between the Sanghai Sharks and you know,
the Korean team or whatever, I'm gonna try my best
(16:36):
to get my client signed by the Lakers, because for
two months, talking heads everywhere, we'll talk about how great
this guy is, and then it'll be a disaster when
Shanghai somehow shines him away back if the Portland Triplazers
paying green American dollars to send this guy home.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
When Lebron wins his fifth ring with the Luka Doncis
lad Lakers, it might be the most impressive one outside
of the three to one, It.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Just might be. It might be if you can, if
you know what that you want to talk about having
enough to win a championship? Do they get money back
if you buy, if you get if you like get
a buyout player, you get a rebate on that. You know,
you should think about this theod They should figure that
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on YouTube for sure. Yeah. But Alex, we've seen a
lot of YouTube videos that Martin Wise and Alex Monica
win for Rob Parker and Calvin Washington. But we've seen
a lot of YouTube videos in Twitter videos or ex
videos Instagram from training camp. And you saw a particularly
concerning one about uh, your boy, old man Rogers. You
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Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers doing a little karaoke, not singing,
but the football drill. I know you have to clarify
because if honestly, if I told you there was like
video surfacing Aaron Rodgers at a karaoke by right outside
of trading Camp, everybody would buy it. But no, he
was doing a little karaoke, switching the hips, a little
light stepping, and Alex literally really saw this video and
(20:01):
turned to me and his face turned white as a
sheet of paper.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, a similar look to how I look in a
New York winter if this happens again, where I buy
into Rogers Martin and he cannot get out of the
way of himself. And for a man that's getting married
this week and yourself Rogers coming off a married offseason,
you would hope teamwork and being on a team and
compromise and communication is top of mind, especially when you
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come into a top ten company culture like the Pittsburgh Steelers,
which is my whole angle here, top ten talent, top
ten company culture.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Here's the thing, I am getting married on Saturday. However,
unlike Aaron Rodgers, I have been able to maneuver the
planning of my wedding and also a ten work, So
you know airs that he had a lot going on?
Now a lot going on turned out to be obstensibly
(20:58):
his new marriage. Kudos, Tim, gratulations. I'm joining the club soon.
If you have any tips Aaron on the honeymoon stage
please My Twitter is at Martin Wis.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
He's in two honeymoon stages right now, Martin, the Steelers
honeymoon stage and the households. Which one is going to
be a better honeymoon?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Oh? Are you with miss shake? I hope it's at
his house.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Are you with me at all on an optimistic Pittsburgh
Steelers season?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
No, I am not.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You think it's going to Costan's opposite You think this
is going Tomlin's streak over?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Listen, I think this thing is going Sweden right down
the middle, Switzerland, right down the middle, right down the middle.
That's where he's going, Switzerland, right down the middle. But
coming up after we kick it over to Steeger Sacreds
Bill Krochenberger. But first, Steve Tiger's are one strike away
from losing to a triple eight team. Gotta love it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
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Speaker 3 (22:08):
Thanks Steve aked stiff back joins not cooperating. Some days
your body's just like nope. And in those days, luckily
there's a leave with just one pill. The leave provides
up to twelve hours of pain relief so you can
keep moving, use as directed. And luckily for us, we
have Bill Krackenberger joining us right now on the odd
couple Professional sports better and co hosts of Fox Sports
(22:31):
Radios Countdown to Kickoff. You can hear him and the
boys every Saturday and Sunday morning. Crack. How you doing.
My friend Martin Wise and Alex Monico with you.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Hey, thanks for having me on. Guys very well. All
was sitting here in Las Vegas and just finish some
dinner and you know, up early in the morning, go
to bed, go to bed early because they have to
be up early for this time of the year, all
the times of the year really, but especially preseason football.
These numbers just move like absolutely crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Guy, so speaking, the numbers moving crazy. Dors Sanders moving
into the starting spot for the Browns on Friday. But
to your point, you're a professional gambler. You said you
were eating dinner. This is how you actually eat. Tell
me about the preseason value because it seems to me,
(23:17):
as a guy who listens to a lot of you
guys but has not nearly the stomach to gamble with
anything that matters, that preseason has a lot of value
in there prese.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
You know, it's funny because some people will come at
me on social media and say, wow, you must be
a degenerate gambler. You're betting preseason now, cause ha ha ha,
I gotta be blunt. I wish we had preseason eighteen
weeks a year in a regular season three weeks a year. Wow,
that's the value of preseason. It's all about reading things.
It's all about having a good team, which I do.
(23:49):
They read the socials, they follow the beat reporters. We
get the best lines, the best injury information, who's not
gonna play, who's going to play. You have to know
the coaches too. You have to know what coach is
a good BS sir. I'm not trying to say they're lying,
but you know you could tell which who's gonna play with.
If a coach is aggressive as he wants to win.
Most coaches don't care. They just want a healthy squad
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for the regular season. It's the reason why the preseason
was cut from four to three weeks. So I do
get it, and I get the teams that want to
play and actually want to maybe not this week so much.
Self played their starters. But yet some teams are we
see opening night we had like Detroit, I mean they
played nobody. I mean they you know, tried guys out
the whole game, second half. I thought they were ever
(24:32):
going to play some more guys. They didn't at all,
didn't care about the game. Chargers may have cared about
the game a little bit more, but uh, you know,
that's what you have to find out. They're the core
components that make up a winning sports. Better for myself,
as you could see, Alex, I sent you a couple
of tickets of some copies of tickets. We don't have
to say the amounts. They were very good amounts, but
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I don't want to look like I'm bragging or anything.
But you could see the stuff I bet at the
counter compared to the closing line. There's no sport any
time of the year that I'll take one and a
half points on a game at the counter, And it
went to seven that's right. Circa had minus seven on
the Bengals today where I showed you a ticket taking
(25:15):
one and a half now. But the only bad thing
is not a lot of the sportsbooks have these lines guys.
They're scared to death to put the lines up. As
you see where I bet it at, they put the lineup.
They had it up. It was there was only one
sportsbook in Las Vegas up when the sportsbooks back East
Draftking Fanzul they had lines up. Hard Rock and Florida
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had lines up. But none of the major core casinos,
none of the big companies here in Las Vegas. One
had them up. But that's when they got a little bet.
But that's what it is. That's what it is here.
It's all about. It's a cat and mouse game and
I'm just trying to grind away and make some money. Guys.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Well, crack Alex here, appreciate you joining us. Last time
I saw you were picking up the tap because you
won and I lost and it was all in on
me and the Aaron Rodgers Jets. Now I'm following them
to Pittsburgh where I bet MGM the over is juiced
at eight and a half. Team total wins minus one
twenty even money on the under. I'm getting plus money
though on Pittsburgh crack to make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Am I on an emotional plank here?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Or is there a real merit to a top ten
talent and top ten company culture in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
Listen, you know we're very rare that you have someone
on social media talks about their losers. Everyone that's on there,
these influencers only want to talk about wins. I lost
betting under on the Steelers last year, but what happened
was the end of the year. I thought it was
gonna happen earlier. They started losing. At the end of
the year. I lost by one win. I had under
on season wins this year. Everyone is they just everyone's
(26:45):
anti Rogers. Just say that people just don't like them personally,
and so actually they're betting me under again. However, myself,
I'm not betting. I'm neutral to it, not betting either way.
One thing good about bet MGM. They put up different
every week after after week one, after week two, after
week three, they put up a new adjusted line on
(27:06):
season wins. I want to tell you something, Only two
or three sportsbooks in the world do that. So I
like to see what happens that first week, see what happens,
and then we go from there. To be honest with you,
I probably lean to the over with you, so because
it was it was, it was banged down to the
other for a while, and they didn't know they were
(27:27):
who was going to be the quarterback? And Rogers, I
don't know. I'm not gonna say he held out because
he didn't hold out. We all kind of knew what
was happening there and we'll see what happens. Though I
leaned over with you, all right.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Crag uh. The NFC North to me is an enigma.
I feel like all those teams right now in terms
of win totals are all kind of packed together, and
I feel like I like the Lions, but the coordinators,
I don't like the Vikings, with the with the ostensibly
rookie quarterback. All they do at Bears camp apparently is
fight and the Packers Jordan Love is he feels the
(28:01):
only player that you go through the supermarket and say, hey,
you know who plays for the Packers? They Jordan loved
the only answer that anybody has. I know some people,
but I'm me crack. Where are you looking at for?
The NFC North.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Listen, I bet I did just bet someone you don't
like there. I bet at bet MGM. Actually they had
plus four to seventy five on the Vikings. I thought
it was pretty good value. Backs then NFC North. Now
that the Lions at the time they were minus minus
one twenty, they're now plus one forty five at bet MGM,
(28:34):
Packers plus two seventy five, Vikings plus three to one,
the Bears plus five fifty. It just so happens that
you picked the division NFC North, where I made a
ton of bets. I bet Vikings too make the playoffs.
I took a dollar ten, even laid a dollar ten.
And I actually made a bet last week just because
I was an outlier. I found the Lions at plus
(28:56):
one ninety not to make the playoffs plus twent eighty
five I've seen also. Now, that's nothing to do with
that first preseason game. That means nothing. As a matter
of fact, all of these preseasons games mean nothing for
the regular season. How many times have we seen in
the past when they had four games, teams go four
to zho he's going four and the exact opposite happens
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during the season. So you pick the division that I
have a lot of bets. I also have Bears not
to make the playoffs too. I know that's upsetting for
a lot of people, a lot of Bears fans, a
lot of Chicago love. Here in Las Vegas, we get
so many people that bet on the Bears that there
is no value here in town betting on the Bears.
(29:38):
The only thing you can do is anti Bears, underseason wins,
no playoffs. I chose no playoffs. There a smaller bet
on the underseason wins. But I don't know. I think
the Vikings. We'll see how this quarterback does here. I'm here.
He's a little bit better than people think, maybe in
preseason here, you know, in his workouts, in his warm
(29:58):
ups and on the sidelines. But it's really maybe more
of a anti Lions bet. I think the Lions have
a real tough schedule compared to Minnesota, especially these first
the first half of the season. So we'll see what
happens here. But I am actually pro Vikings, anti Bears,
and anti Lions.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Crack.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I got one more for you here at the most
casual better wants to a slam take out the money
from the mattress and hit.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Over on Niners ten and a half wins. Well, you're
the professional here.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
It's actually juiced more on BETMGM to the under minus
one eighteen under ten and a half. We know they
don't have the first play schedule this year. Where are
you on the San Francisco Niners could be a futures
thought as well as that team.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Total.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
Okay, very popular bet here in Vegas. The last at
my co host Jeff Sports on Sunday. He likes San
fran this year, so I don't want to, you know,
burst his bubble a little bit. But they also have
MGM also has forty nine ers to make the playoffs. Yes,
minus one eighty. I think maybe that might be a
good way to go compared to the actual over under.
(31:05):
But you know one thing about bet MGM compared to
most books again, and you know, I don't mean to
be doing a commercial are for BETMGM. Hell no, just
kind of telling them like it is though that now
I only know two sportsbooks in the country that actually
you can go to the alternate line and you can
bet overseason wins or under. You can go literally I'm
(31:25):
looking at San Fran right at BETMGM, you can go
over four and a half or you can go under
fifteen and a half. That's crazy. I mean obviously I
like both over and under. You got a lay a
ton of juice. So look at the median ground here.
I'm gonna look at the over ten and a half
minusote two as being the median line here. Ten and
a half wins under ten and a half minus eighteen
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over ten and a half minuso two. Now, I didn't
bet this, but if anything, I may go to that
alternative line over nine and a half minus the dollars
seventy five. Again, didn't bet it. Think they're going to
be okay. Jeff Schwartz made some really good points on
our show, so I have to go with him by
you know, former football player nine years. He's really in
tune with a lot of the camps and the players.
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He knows a lot of the guys. Still he leaned
over there. I'm gonna leaneddy over there with him. But
not a bet. The bets I made I mentioned they're ready.
I'll just give you guys one crazier bet too. You're
gonna make not today, You're gonna make it more towards
game time. I'm gonna say go Eagles under. Shop around
for the best line super Bowl champs. Everyone thinks they
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have a great schedule. This is gonna be easy. You know,
the Eagles are the best team in football. I'll play
it right now. Shop around these you can go under
eleven and a half, maybe even under twelve and a half,
maybe even late two to one. I love betting against
the former Super Bowl winner the next season because I
know you're gonna have to lay juice on anything you
(32:50):
do with the Eagles. That's the taxi lay. You're gonna
lay more juice on the games. You're gonna lay more
juice on the futures. Just look to go for super
Bowl champs under. That's what I always say.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That's Bill Krackenberger. If you liked what you had to hear,
you can check him out Saturday and Sunday mornings on
Countdown and the Kickoff. Your wallet will thank you and
crack we thank you here. Thanks for joining us, my friends.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
Thank you guys, anytime, anytime, guys,
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