July 11, 2025 • 32 mins
Rob and Kelvin take Patrick Mahomes to task for openly discussing the idea of the NFL moving to an 18-game regular season. Plus, E60 host Jeremy Schaap swings by to discuss his upcoming feature on Jim Abbott, the positive impact Abbott has had on the limb different community, whether we'll ever see another 3,000 strikeout pitcher after Clayton Kershaw, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (01:41):
Course last call as well. We'll do that and real quick,
I want to give a shout out to Wes Whiteside,
who's in the studio with us. Who and you know
this Kelvin as you know me. I have long standing
relationships with people and friendships and all this kind of stuff.
And I've known West since he was in high school.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't know, West, were you sixteen? How were you
when we met? When you were you a sophomore? So
like sixteen years old?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And I've seen this guy grow and mature and he's married.
I was at his wedding and he's uh A recruited
for Syracuse University and all that. Very proud of him.
And he's in town here in LA doing some stuff.
So I just wanted to give him a shout out
and all of his Syracuse people.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Shout out to West. Cool brother over here on my
left Avendale High right. Yeah, and he's another Michigan brother,
so he's cool with me. Side note, you my friend,
Rob gotta relax. Okay, Oh you about what? Then everywhere
I go, somehow somebody's connected to you. I'm like, yo,
what's up? What's up? Let me get to let me
get to number six, let me get to Yo. Man,
(02:49):
your voice kind of are you Devin watching? Oh yeah, yeah,
you must see what you watch Spectro News. But well no,
I listened to our couple. You know, Rob was my guy.
Used to be there. Hey, what's up. How you doing?
Check the hotel? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know Rob reason
I'm working here. Because what it was was in eighty
eight he was in town for a baseball game and
then he said, you gotta relax, bro bum Kevin Bacon
(03:11):
his six degrees of Rod Parker, you take it easy.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I thought, you know, I know a lot of it.
I thought I was connected, knew everybody. My god, Well,
people don't.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Believe it when you when you talk about that and
be like, I've known since he was in high school.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I got one other Grant Henderson, you know, Grant Henderson
from Detroit, Okay, and his mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I worked with his mom and dad in the newspaper business.
And the crazy thing is he interned as well, like
West did at the radio station in Detroit. But here's
the kicker. I Grant is a thirty some five year
old man. I've known Grant since he was six years old.
I believe they used to bring him, you know what
I mean. And I've known since he was six. He's
like a thirty Yeah, all right, there we go our
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number three and Calvin, let's go.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Let's go here. Where we're going is SNFL.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Patrick Mahomess the new haircut.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Patrick Mahomes doing a media tour. Ye couple new hair
who this? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
All we gotta do is say that Nick Wrong is
a co host on the show.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
He'll come on.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I mean Nick Right, he might, but yes, he's been
doing the media rounds. Most recently earlier this week, he
popped on with CNBC to discuss a myriad of topics.
One of the things that came up was the idea
of the long rumored eighteen game season that could be
on the horizon in the NFL. When asked about it,
Mahomes said, quote, if there were a way to get
(04:45):
to eighteen games, and I'm not a big fan of it,
but if there were a way, I think you got
to add some bye weeks in there to give more
time for guys bodies.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Your thoughts, Well, this is I think, first of all,
ain't no what if if you got the NFLPA, who's
trying to act like, oh, we got so many other
things we got going on in First of all, NFLPA,
and that hardly ever does right by the players. So
let's just start. That was me trying to give them one.
They never do right by the players, which means players
have mostly said they don't want to do this. It's
(05:19):
gonna happen, especially when it comes to big money, which
is what these owners want. So we're gonna get to
eighteen games. And if you get to eighteen games, Robs,
both of you, Rob Park and Rob g well you
know what eighteen turns into twenty. And here's my thought
and concern. One of the things that's made the NFL
great is a scarcity. Was sixteen weeks for so long?
Was twelve? It used to be twelve, twelve exactly was twelve.
Then of course they go to sixteen, fourteen, fourteen, sixteen,
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so many years, and then now we're at seventeen. But
that's what makes it great. Every game matters. You don't
get a lot of it. So from a fans standpoint,
you're locked in. I only get these X amount of games.
From a player standpoint, every game matters, I'm locked in.
I'm in. What I'm concerned is does eighteen stay at
eighteen for two, three, four, five years then jump to
twenty and at what point for the first time will
(06:03):
the NFL be taking a hit in something we've never
really had to consider, and that is low management. Because
I started to think, specifically with a guy like Patrick
Mahomes who's really known nothing but success throughout his career,
rob what if we get to a point because there's
eighteen games, there's twenty games where teams ultimately like a
maybe the Buffalo Bills, maybe Lamar Jackson, Ravens, maybe Patrick
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Mahons and the Chiefs, they're competing for playoffs and championships.
So now I gotta start to consider, Man, we are
sitting here at ten and three going into our second
bye week. I might sit Patrick Mahomes the week prior
to the buye, then have to buy and then sit
him another week, So that's three weeks that he's healthy,
he's fresh, Because what is it? Ultimately the Chiefs will
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be playing for playoff deep playoff runs in Super Bowls,
And this is the first time I'm thinking hold on
the NFL. I know all money is good money and
blah blah blah blah blah. But that's what's made you
great is we don't get to see you all the
time and don't come to me players or league. If
you're talking about we care about player safety, stop it
because adding all these games only makes it long and elongate.
(07:07):
It's the season and more opportunities for a guy gets
to get hurt. And I think is the first time
you might have to start considering will NFL players start
to load and load management. I'm not talking about last
game of the season. I sit down, we already got
the division sewed up. I'm talking about week eight, week twelve,
because I'm starting to think long term. I gotta think
for eighteen games, r twenty games, and I think that
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is something that for the first time we might have
to consider because clearly not thinking about players safety, that
ain't even an issue that no one cares about that
players or the owners at this point.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Here's my issue is that players, especially Patrick Mahome, shouldn't
be speaking on this. This should come from leadership from
the Players Association, one voice, one voice, not putting this
out about he I'm not a fan of it, but
let me tell you how it'll work. Let me, you
gotta have this, you gotta do this.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
That gives a creeding You can't tell me that owners
and people going like, did you hear Patrick? Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Okay, So he's not gonna come out of if you
have the best of the best coming out against it,
saying no, but a.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Singular voice the union and we've talked about this. You
beat me where I was about to bring up again, Yeah,
it's very simple.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
No, like one voice from the union and and the
way that they change all of this and stop. I
do not understand. I wish I would have two minutes
to go in and talk to the Advisory Board of
the Players Association. I would say, you guys want to
do right by the players. Forget about that stupid deal
(08:41):
you guys signed so you could smoke weed and practice less.
That's what they' that's what they hang out right, smoke
weed and practice less.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I said. I would go into the owners.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Here's the CBA, the Major League Baseball players have with
the baseball owners. We want exactly what they have, exactly
what they have here it is. And if you don't
do it come September, we will not be playing football.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Or you do it before the super Bowl when everything's
in place, you know, we don't get a new deal
or situation set up, we will not play the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
How did the baseball players get leverage? They stop the world, Citty,
they stop the world. But Rob, you and I have
talked about this. Everything you said makes sense. You and
I both agree. We say this at least once every
month because something comes up where we have to have
this conversation. The issue is that sounds good, but that
four string defensive back who's only making it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It can't be about it can't be about him. It's
gotta be singular about everybody. And this is what you
got to.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Do. That is what I'm saying. We have to vote.
And when we all start to vote, no, no, no,
you're check hitting different No, Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But here here's but here's the difference. I hear you.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The reason the players have solidarity in Major League Baseball
is because the young player you're talking about, you're not
worried about paying your bills. The union has a Ward chess, Calvin,
how much money do you need for your bills?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Hold on? How much do you need?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Here?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
It is when you get when we finished with this lockout, strike, whatever,
and they give us our money back, you take that money,
you put it back in the war chest. The reason
that the players union gets beat like a drama. Then
they know that they don't have a war chest. They
know that people can't miss two paychecks or one paycheck.
You have no leverage. But you have no leverage if
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you have no war chess.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Your honor. I object. Here's why it sounds. First of all,
again I agree, but here's the thing. A. I have
way more players in MLB, way more. No, No, it's not
that much.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It's eleven hundred compared to eight hundred.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I have more players leagues. I also don't have guaranteed contracts. No,
but that so, but I'm hearing you, that's what I'm
competing for. What I'm saying is, guys only hear my
contract ain't guaranteed. So the stuff that you would have
you might have to sacrifice for them. It sounds like
Alex I needed Charlie Brown.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Wah w.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
That's what it sounds like. You and I agree. We've
been agreeing since since we started. But the fact is
they're like, yeah, no doubt, I hear you, I hear you.
This is because they can't commit. It's a commitment and
the sacrifice to do it.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You cannot.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You cannot, Okay, whenever you have membership, union membership and
you're voting to get that's what they hear of, to
get paid or not get paid. The vote can never
be that, okay because people are always going to vote
to get paid, so do you. It can't be about that. No,
(11:52):
the money's not an issue. Guess what, we got you
covered for next season. So then you're gonna be relying
on the stars to jump started. No, no, no, you're gonna say, hey, everybody,
everybody has to put money in, but they get the
money back and that's the only way you have any
kind of leverage. But but it's it's a shame because
it's not just Major League Baseball. Everybody else, even the
(12:13):
NHL is a better deal. They have better health care, retirement,
everybody's better. Now, that's that's the thing that we're talking about.
It's not like Baseball superior and and nobody else has anything. No,
all the NBA contracts, NHL contracts guaranteed. They have been
bamboozled and allowed to believe that they shouldn't have guaranteed contracts,
(12:35):
which they should.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Should they be shorter, Yes, Should you be able to
play for two years or to sign a three year deal.
If you're good, you get more money. If not, they
let you go. That's just like any other standard. Because
it's a physical demanding sport. Eyes don't last as long,
and we know that, and it absolutely should be that case.
They should get guaranteed because you know what the NFL
likes to do. Rob new deal. This just came in
(13:00):
seven years, two hundred and eighty million, but only about
eighty of a guaranteed, and they love to todd all
the money we're throwing around these guys. I wouldn't even
wanted to let you put that out there to make
it look like you're throwing money around. No, put out
the number what it is, the real seven years of
buck twenty, that's what. That's not a seven years two
ten all right?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine, six sixty three sixty nine. Would the NFL
be making a mistake by moving to eighteen games. Simple
question we want to hear from you. We'll continue that
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or so, we will have last call. If you couldn't
get in throughout the day, it'll be your chance to
do so. So. Patrick Mahomes, one of the voices of
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the NFL, spoke about possibility of eighteen games. He doesn't
want it, but if he said, if it were to happened,
this would have to happen, This would have to happen
for it even have a chance. I thought, this is
how you made too many games. Rob started leading in
the load management. When you get star players on winning
teams starting to let me just keep him out as
we try to play this eighteen twenty game.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Season, it's just unnecessary. It's greed, it's strange.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
There you go. Let's just put a big exclamation point
next to take some calls. Eight seven to seven ninety
nine on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Who we got Brandon in Phoenix? You're on the odd
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Speaker 2 (15:50):
What's up, Brandon?
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Hey? What's up? Fellas?
Speaker 8 (15:53):
How you doing it?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Three?
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Hey? Rob?
Speaker 8 (15:57):
I just got to throw it out there real quick
before we get to the NFL. Did you, uh you
see Bronny in that game yesterday, just just looking like
a superstar.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Oh yeah, the.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
One for six from three and what he finished with?
Eight points? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I did watch it. I know he's in the rotation.
Is he starting next year on the Lakers? Don't think
he's going to be a starter now?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Yeah, But hey, guys, I think one of the huge
mistakes that the NFL is making with, you know, trying
to add an additional game, is you're going to diminish
the playoff games and your Super Bowl when you're starting
to look at less and less of your star players,
(16:38):
starters playing in those games when injuries is already it's
already a battle of attrition. You're already trying to be
the healthiest team going into the playoffs, and you're just
adding another game, uh into that. So yeah, I mean,
I think you know in the long haul, you're you're
diminishing some of the most important games of the season
in the playoffs, in the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Don't disagree at all, and you could have you what
you want, a super Bowl where Patrick Mahomes can't play
or you know what I mean, not that they're going
to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Anymore because that run is home. No, you were right
with the first time. It'll be uh, the Lions all time.
It would be the Lions chiefs. Me and Rob jis
Is gonna sit there the whole week dying, laughing up
somewhere they were hoping and playing. Listen, I don't ask
for much outside of it came to.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Rob g You know, I was feeling good at that one.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Got there, but the Lions, man, I needed the Lions Chiefs.
Oh my gosh, that would be amazing. You would be
torch this year. No Lions, No lines in the playoffs.
No lines in the playoffs. Come on, Wes, size ten.
I don't know what George should I get? What George
should Jordan bad? We have wings bet on the let's
(17:47):
go to Jordan's what two pairs of one? No?
Speaker 9 (17:50):
No, they were They were the best team in the
NFC last year. You gonna give me out? And the
Knicks were favored against the Well, you took them. The
only odd you get it, The only odd you get
is the name of this show.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
A couple. That's about the only odd. Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You would have won.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You the crazy one that was Sugar that won the
first of all the Pistons if they had little more experience,
they were beating them. They think they probably plus minus
up at the end of that series. They plain that,
ain't you gotta win games?
Speaker 7 (18:18):
Man?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You you you were just you bought into the to
the Homer hype and you were like, oh, they're beating
the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I never thought that was happening. That was the easiest
PERI books.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Youn't even respond.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
But you would you have been on the Knicks if
you are on the Pistons. If you knew Malie Beasley
was may or may not shaving points.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Stop it. See that's your fault. You didn't know that,
stop it stop you were doing homework. Man, he was
out here down bad NBA player on Dinnis Street. Hey man,
I know I owe you thirty five thousandnis? Is that?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Is that his third home run tonight?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
What am I watching?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Or?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Is that a rep? And it's not just Cody Bellinger?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
No? No, no, no no, But who was he played for?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
No? Was tlaking about him?
Speaker 5 (18:59):
You know there's a riveting game going over here on
your left with Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I've been watching that run looking good, rob rob G.
Did you see another home run there in the Bronx.
Did you see that catch from Aaron Judge?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Three home we has three home runs.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
And I'm saying he tell many people who everybody ain't
watching the Yankees like you are.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Ain't nobody watch it?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
This is on I on TV, which means I don't
want to watch?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Is that what ion means I don't want to watch?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
No, it means I have I don't want to watch,
I don't want to want to want to know. It
means I have an eye on it. Okay, that's what
it is I'm watching it. Okay, are you getting the
w n B A Are you serious? I'm all in
right now.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
How many games have you taken your daughters to this year?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Early?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Rob g you take your your daughters and your wife
to a w n B A game? No asking? How
many baseball guys I went to though? Okay?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Zero?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Okay? And how many w how many Lakers this year?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Zero?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
They're girls though they want to go to the that's supposed.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
To mean girls can't like baseball round? What are you
saying with that? What do you mean? You people say
people keeping the women in the box? Oh, hey, women,
you can only go see women. That's why the league's
not flourishing because they won't go. Who did I.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Argue with them?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
That w NBA woman, that's w NBA. You ain't gonna
make it six years? Man, I can feel it. Hey Scott, Now, yeah,
we got him.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
We got him this time. We got him?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
What did I say?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
The best part is, Rogie, There's been about three times
since I've been working with this guy that all of
a sudden, some crazy Rob Parker says his mouth, I'll
raised this stuff it And I've said, Kelvin Washington, my
mom I got to be right there with him. Well
he said this, but Rob said this, Now that that
w NBA lady.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Kelvin Washington sat there and let it happen.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yes, exactly. He didn't push back. I didn't push back.
That w NBA lady shot out to whoever.
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to do that show?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Like yeah, thank god, they love me. They love some
double dangle, they though for sure. All right, we got
Jeremy Shapp on the other side. That'll be really cool.
Get to talk to him right now.
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Speaker 4 (21:18):
The Covil Robin Kelvin On a Fucky Flashback Friday, we
have the privilege talk to Jeremy Shapp right now, host
of V sixty and the sports reporters on ESPN. Jeremy,
how you doing, man, Jeremy.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
I'm good. How's it going, guys?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Going well?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Doing great? Doing great? Great to have you on.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
No, not appreciate, not a problem, looking forward to having
this conversation. Uh So, Yeah, just tell us a little
bit more about this project. You have South Paul the
life and legacy of Jim Abbott. We want to hear
a little bit more about that.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Absolutely, Yeah, very excited.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
So, you know, we've been working on this for a
long time. It's it's the Jim Abbit story. It uses
the no hitter that he pitched on September fourth, nineteen
ninety three, when he was the Yankees against Cleveland has
really kind of the spine of the story, and you know,
cuts flashes back and forth from the game to his
(22:14):
life story. But it's about more than his life story.
It's about more than his rise to prominence, and it's
about more than the no hitter. It is largely as
well about his impact, markable influence on the world and
especially on people who had situations like his.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
You know, we call it.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
The limb different community. Now, that wasn't a term that
we used when Jim Habbott was playing in the nineteen
age in the nineteen nineties, But a lot of the
story is about the kids who had situations like his
that he inspired, the way he helped their parents, their grandparents,
people who needed hope, who needed inspiration, and the remark
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impact he's had in the world because it's his willingness
to make contact, reach out to and serve as a
role mod.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Well, I'm glad you brought that up real quick because
you may not know this. I'm a morning news anchor
here in la with Spectrum, who's one and one of
our reporters. Nicky k did a story on Justin McFadden
of is what University of Laverne, and he also has
the same challenge as that Jim did, and Jim has
been a mentor to him straighter. She just did this
story two weeks ago and then not Wow, Robbgi told us,
(23:34):
we're going to talk to you. I said, I have
to bring this up, and that was part of it.
She brought up how Jim Abbott has been a resource
for him, a friend for him, a role model for him,
and he just goes to your point.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Yeah, there's so many stories like that, and we speak
to so many. Speak to several professional athletes as well
who have limbed differences. Tim Griffin, who is the first
NFL player with one hand in Carson, tickets to the
US women's national team, Nick Nole, the mixed martial artists,
and everybody talks about how Jim played such an important
(24:08):
part in their lives, giving them hope, giving them inspiration,
and basically through his example tell you know, proving to
them that curdles challenges that even you know might seem
insurmountable can be overcome.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Jeremy, I always think like.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
People aren't born and their adults right away, you know,
growing up as a kid and going to the ballpark
or wanting to play, and kids can be very cool.
You know, they see stuff and they're just going to
say whatever they see and they don't have a filter.
And I think did Jim talk about that, like how
rough it was like just growing up and feeling like
(24:50):
trying to get to the ballpark and trying to have
fun with the other kids, and kids maybe shunning him
or not wanting him to play.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
He did, you know, we talked about that a lot,
and we talked about his experiences when he was very
young and initially, well not initially, but at a certain
age he got a prosthetic arm, and you know, we
talked about how, you know, kids could be cruel and
would call him Captain hooked things like that, and and
(25:21):
there were fights and there were insults, and there was
all that kind of stuff. And for Jim growing up
in Flint, Michigan, you know, sports were everything, and sports
was his ticket to accept it, to fitting in. And
(25:42):
you guys know, Jim Abbott incredible athlete, you know, not
just a baseball player, but a great hitter, high school quarterback.
Basketball was I think his first love athletically. I mean,
you know, a guy who could do anything athletically. And
because he was said jet standing athlete, that made it
(26:02):
easier for him to fit in. But there was still
the awkwardness. There was still you know, he talked about,
you know, hiding, hiding his his right arm in pictures.
You know, there are a lot of pictures of him
there with his right arm in a pocket, in one
of his pockets, and I think, you know, there was
a lot of trauma there, and he understands, you know,
(26:24):
how are the kids in that situation, whether it's a
limb difference or something else. You know, what it's like
to be bullied, what it's like to be different, and
how much you know you might want to just fit
in and just you know, not draw attention from everybody else.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, absolutely can understand that. Jeremy Shapp, hosts of E
sixty and the sports reporters on ESPN. Of course, Jeremy
shop if you want to follow him, and it's called
South Paul. It's going to be a sixty special there
the life and legacy of Jim Abbott. We're talking about
there just switching gears lip staying in baseball, but switching
Garrison a little bit and going from pitching staying in
the pitching realm Robin I Hud debates about just what
(27:05):
we're seeing right now. There's a couple of young great
pitchers in this league, Schoogle being one of them.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
You ever think we'll see what Clinton kershawl was able
to do? Three thousand strikeout club ever again you think
that's just those days are far removed or hey, you
never know.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Jeremy, I'm saying yes. I mean everybody says no, but
I think.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
You're saying, yes, Rob, that it will happen again.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yes, it will.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Well, everything happens again, right, I mean, look at baseball history.
And you know, I'm a guy who loves baseball history.
I'm speaked at it. I grew up with it. So
think about that's what people were saying in the eighties,
right when you had the generation of the great starting
pitchers like Jack Morris. Yep, And there was no one
from Jack Morris's generation who won three hundred gates. Not
(27:47):
a single picture born in the decades. The nineteen sixties
won three hundred games. But then you get to the sixties,
it's the whole different story again. You got Randy Johnson,
and you've got Roger Clemens, you got Tom you've got
Greg Maddox. To who am I forgetting there's one more,
(28:08):
it'll come to me. But you know, in the forties
and thirties you had Sutton and Seaver and Ryan and Carlton,
Uh and Perry and Micro. You had all those guys,
you know, so these things going ways. You had all
the great pictures of the hope. I'm not speaking out
too much, no, no, no, in nineteenth century and it's
(28:30):
the same thing with strikedowns because it's all about opportunity.
And look, things change, the game has changed. We all
know that there's some things that will never come back.
You know. We thought there'd never be three hundred game winners,
you know, but there were.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
But there will never be a five hundred.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Game winner again like Cy Young or one hundred game
winner again. Like Walter Johnson. Things change. You know, It's interesting.
You know, you had a whole period in baseball after
the turn of the twentieth century, right, and you had
a few guys who won three hundred were like Walter
Johnson and let the Grove won exactly three hundred. But
(29:06):
between you know, Letty Grove and the era we're talking
about of the Perrys and the Negroes and Receivers and
the Carltons, you just had an early win and Warren
spond for like forty years, right, So things change. But yeah,
what we've seen this fundamental change in the role of
the starting pitcher, the amount of you know, if you
(29:27):
told me when I was a kid that one of
the greatest pictures in baseball when I was in my
fifties would be a guy like Jacob de Gram winning
multiple Cy Young Awards, But I don't think he's gonna
He might got to get to one hundred career wins,
right right, right, you know, I mean, nobody can question
(29:47):
the greatness of Jacob de Gram, but you know, and
he's an extreme example, right because of all the injuries
he's had and stuff like that. But it's just totally different.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
One last thing, at least from me. I know it's
show Hay in the National League and Judge in the
American League. No, I'm just but but I no, no, no, no,
I'm just saying when when I when I look, because
to me, show Hay is not the best pitcher and
(30:18):
not the best hitter. But when you put it together,
there's no doubt he's the best baseball player because.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
He can do bothable.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Okay, but but what I'm talking about when I look
at Aaron Judge as far as power average, you know, Jeremy,
you know baseball, the bat the average batting average is
two forty two with no power.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
He said three sixty in July with power.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
You did.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
He's he's unique.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
He you know.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
I mean, what he's doing is just of course, it's ridiculous.
I mean, there are there are million words we can use.
It's ridiculous, right, I mean, the only thing in my lifetime.
And I don't watch the game. I still watch the game,
but I don't watch it follow as closely as when
I was covering it, you know, on a day to
day basis and all that kind of stuff. But it's
(31:12):
like what Barry Bonds was doing right twenty years ago,
when it was a home run or a walk, right,
and the guy was getting on base fifty six percent
of the time and hitting seventy home runs and doing
all of that. And of course it's different because you know,
we're talking about a different age and the age of
(31:33):
chemical enhancement twenty twenty five years ago in baseball. What
Judge is doing in this different era, it's just amazing.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Without a doubt. Jeremy, thank you so much. Looking forward
to seeing this.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
We just saw the a little bit of the trailer, right.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Man.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
You do great work as all, Jeremy. So Jeremy, and
we're gonna let you go because I got to finish
talking a lot more about Aaron Judge.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
It's a pleasure, guys anytime. Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Absolutely appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
You know they don't dunc in the WNBA, but you
know who could Duncan w and Aaron Judge, you know,
Browny and Cooper Flagg last night, But you know who
would have played better? Aaron Judge. You know, he's like
six or eight. He could have been a power for it.
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Speaker 1 (01:41):
Course last call as well. We'll do that and real quick,
I want to give a shout out to Wes Whiteside,
who's in the studio with us. Who and you know
this Kelvin as you know me. I have long standing
relationships with people and friendships and all this kind of stuff.
And I've known West since he was in high school.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't know, West, were you sixteen? How were you
when we met? When you were you a sophomore? So
like sixteen years old?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And I've seen this guy grow and mature and he's married.
I was at his wedding and he's uh A recruited
for Syracuse University and all that. Very proud of him.
And he's in town here in LA doing some stuff.
So I just wanted to give him a shout out
and all of his Syracuse people.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Shout out to West. Cool brother over here on my
left Avendale High right. Yeah, and he's another Michigan brother,
so he's cool with me. Side note, you my friend,
Rob gotta relax. Okay, Oh you about what? Then everywhere
I go, somehow somebody's connected to you. I'm like, yo,
what's up? What's up? Let me get to let me
get to number six, let me get to Yo. Man,
(02:49):
your voice kind of are you Devin watching? Oh yeah, yeah,
you must see what you watch Spectro News. But well no,
I listened to our couple. You know, Rob was my guy.
Used to be there. Hey, what's up. How you doing?
Check the hotel? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know Rob reason
I'm working here. Because what it was was in eighty
eight he was in town for a baseball game and
then he said, you gotta relax, bro bum Kevin Bacon
(03:11):
his six degrees of Rod Parker, you take it easy.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I thought, you know, I know a lot of it.
I thought I was connected, knew everybody. My god, Well,
people don't.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Believe it when you when you talk about that and
be like, I've known since he was in high school.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I got one other Grant Henderson, you know, Grant Henderson
from Detroit, Okay, and his mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I worked with his mom and dad in the newspaper business.
And the crazy thing is he interned as well, like
West did at the radio station in Detroit. But here's
the kicker. I Grant is a thirty some five year
old man. I've known Grant since he was six years old.
I believe they used to bring him, you know what
I mean. And I've known since he was six. He's
like a thirty Yeah, all right, there we go our
(03:58):
number three and Calvin, let's go.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Let's go here. Where we're going is SNFL.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Patrick Mahomess the new haircut.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Patrick Mahomes doing a media tour. Ye couple new hair
who this? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
All we gotta do is say that Nick Wrong is
a co host on the show.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
He'll come on.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I mean Nick Right, he might, but yes, he's been
doing the media rounds. Most recently earlier this week, he
popped on with CNBC to discuss a myriad of topics.
One of the things that came up was the idea
of the long rumored eighteen game season that could be
on the horizon in the NFL. When asked about it,
Mahomes said, quote, if there were a way to get
(04:45):
to eighteen games, and I'm not a big fan of it,
but if there were a way, I think you got
to add some bye weeks in there to give more
time for guys bodies.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Your thoughts, Well, this is I think, first of all,
ain't no what if if you got the NFLPA, who's
trying to act like, oh, we got so many other
things we got going on in First of all, NFLPA,
and that hardly ever does right by the players. So
let's just start. That was me trying to give them one.
They never do right by the players, which means players
have mostly said they don't want to do this. It's
(05:19):
gonna happen, especially when it comes to big money, which
is what these owners want. So we're gonna get to
eighteen games. And if you get to eighteen games, Robs,
both of you, Rob Park and Rob g well you
know what eighteen turns into twenty. And here's my thought
and concern. One of the things that's made the NFL
great is a scarcity. Was sixteen weeks for so long?
Was twelve? It used to be twelve, twelve exactly was twelve.
Then of course they go to sixteen, fourteen, fourteen, sixteen,
(05:42):
so many years, and then now we're at seventeen. But
that's what makes it great. Every game matters. You don't
get a lot of it. So from a fans standpoint,
you're locked in. I only get these X amount of games.
From a player standpoint, every game matters, I'm locked in.
I'm in. What I'm concerned is does eighteen stay at
eighteen for two, three, four, five years then jump to
twenty and at what point for the first time will
(06:03):
the NFL be taking a hit in something we've never
really had to consider, and that is low management. Because
I started to think, specifically with a guy like Patrick
Mahomes who's really known nothing but success throughout his career,
rob what if we get to a point because there's
eighteen games, there's twenty games where teams ultimately like a
maybe the Buffalo Bills, maybe Lamar Jackson, Ravens, maybe Patrick
(06:24):
Mahons and the Chiefs, they're competing for playoffs and championships.
So now I gotta start to consider, Man, we are
sitting here at ten and three going into our second
bye week. I might sit Patrick Mahomes the week prior
to the buye, then have to buy and then sit
him another week, So that's three weeks that he's healthy,
he's fresh, Because what is it? Ultimately the Chiefs will
(06:45):
be playing for playoff deep playoff runs in Super Bowls,
And this is the first time I'm thinking hold on
the NFL. I know all money is good money and
blah blah blah blah blah. But that's what's made you
great is we don't get to see you all the
time and don't come to me players or league. If
you're talking about we care about player safety, stop it
because adding all these games only makes it long and elongate.
(07:07):
It's the season and more opportunities for a guy gets
to get hurt. And I think is the first time
you might have to start considering will NFL players start
to load and load management. I'm not talking about last
game of the season. I sit down, we already got
the division sewed up. I'm talking about week eight, week twelve,
because I'm starting to think long term. I gotta think
for eighteen games, r twenty games, and I think that
(07:28):
is something that for the first time we might have
to consider because clearly not thinking about players safety, that
ain't even an issue that no one cares about that
players or the owners at this point.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Here's my issue is that players, especially Patrick Mahome, shouldn't
be speaking on this. This should come from leadership from
the Players Association, one voice, one voice, not putting this
out about he I'm not a fan of it, but
let me tell you how it'll work. Let me, you
gotta have this, you gotta do this.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
That gives a creeding You can't tell me that owners
and people going like, did you hear Patrick? Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Okay, So he's not gonna come out of if you
have the best of the best coming out against it,
saying no, but a.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Singular voice the union and we've talked about this. You
beat me where I was about to bring up again, Yeah,
it's very simple.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
No, like one voice from the union and and the
way that they change all of this and stop. I
do not understand. I wish I would have two minutes
to go in and talk to the Advisory Board of
the Players Association. I would say, you guys want to
do right by the players. Forget about that stupid deal
(08:41):
you guys signed so you could smoke weed and practice less.
That's what they' that's what they hang out right, smoke
weed and practice less.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I said. I would go into the owners.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Here's the CBA, the Major League Baseball players have with
the baseball owners. We want exactly what they have, exactly
what they have here it is. And if you don't
do it come September, we will not be playing football.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Or you do it before the super Bowl when everything's
in place, you know, we don't get a new deal
or situation set up, we will not play the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
How did the baseball players get leverage? They stop the world, Citty,
they stop the world. But Rob, you and I have
talked about this. Everything you said makes sense. You and
I both agree. We say this at least once every
month because something comes up where we have to have
this conversation. The issue is that sounds good, but that
four string defensive back who's only making it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It can't be about it can't be about him. It's
gotta be singular about everybody. And this is what you
got to.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Do. That is what I'm saying. We have to vote.
And when we all start to vote, no, no, no,
you're check hitting different No, Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But here here's but here's the difference. I hear you.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The reason the players have solidarity in Major League Baseball
is because the young player you're talking about, you're not
worried about paying your bills. The union has a Ward chess, Calvin,
how much money do you need for your bills?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Hold on? How much do you need?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Here?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
It is when you get when we finished with this lockout, strike, whatever,
and they give us our money back, you take that money,
you put it back in the war chest. The reason
that the players union gets beat like a drama. Then
they know that they don't have a war chest. They
know that people can't miss two paychecks or one paycheck.
You have no leverage. But you have no leverage if
(10:40):
you have no war chess.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Your honor. I object. Here's why it sounds. First of all,
again I agree, but here's the thing. A. I have
way more players in MLB, way more. No, No, it's not
that much.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It's eleven hundred compared to eight hundred.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I have more players leagues. I also don't have guaranteed contracts. No,
but that so, but I'm hearing you, that's what I'm
competing for. What I'm saying is, guys only hear my
contract ain't guaranteed. So the stuff that you would have
you might have to sacrifice for them. It sounds like
Alex I needed Charlie Brown.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Wah w.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
That's what it sounds like. You and I agree. We've
been agreeing since since we started. But the fact is
they're like, yeah, no doubt, I hear you, I hear you.
This is because they can't commit. It's a commitment and
the sacrifice to do it.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You cannot.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You cannot, Okay, whenever you have membership, union membership and
you're voting to get that's what they hear of, to
get paid or not get paid. The vote can never
be that, okay because people are always going to vote
to get paid, so do you. It can't be about that. No,
(11:52):
the money's not an issue. Guess what, we got you
covered for next season. So then you're gonna be relying
on the stars to jump started. No, no, no, you're gonna say, hey, everybody,
everybody has to put money in, but they get the
money back and that's the only way you have any
kind of leverage. But but it's it's a shame because
it's not just Major League Baseball. Everybody else, even the
(12:13):
NHL is a better deal. They have better health care, retirement,
everybody's better. Now, that's that's the thing that we're talking about.
It's not like Baseball superior and and nobody else has anything. No,
all the NBA contracts, NHL contracts guaranteed. They have been
bamboozled and allowed to believe that they shouldn't have guaranteed contracts,
(12:35):
which they should.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Should they be shorter, Yes, Should you be able to
play for two years or to sign a three year deal.
If you're good, you get more money. If not, they
let you go. That's just like any other standard. Because
it's a physical demanding sport. Eyes don't last as long,
and we know that, and it absolutely should be that case.
They should get guaranteed because you know what the NFL
likes to do. Rob new deal. This just came in
(13:00):
seven years, two hundred and eighty million, but only about
eighty of a guaranteed, and they love to todd all
the money we're throwing around these guys. I wouldn't even
wanted to let you put that out there to make
it look like you're throwing money around. No, put out
the number what it is, the real seven years of
buck twenty, that's what. That's not a seven years two
ten all right?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
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or so, we will have last call. If you couldn't
get in throughout the day, it'll be your chance to
do so. So. Patrick Mahomes, one of the voices of
(15:19):
the NFL, spoke about possibility of eighteen games. He doesn't
want it, but if he said, if it were to happened,
this would have to happen, This would have to happen
for it even have a chance. I thought, this is
how you made too many games. Rob started leading in
the load management. When you get star players on winning
teams starting to let me just keep him out as
we try to play this eighteen twenty game.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Season, it's just unnecessary. It's greed, it's strange.
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There you go. Let's just put a big exclamation point
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Hey? Rob?
Speaker 8 (15:57):
I just got to throw it out there real quick
before we get to the NFL. Did you, uh you
see Bronny in that game yesterday, just just looking like
a superstar.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Oh yeah, the.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
One for six from three and what he finished with?
Eight points? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I did watch it. I know he's in the rotation.
Is he starting next year on the Lakers? Don't think
he's going to be a starter now?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Yeah, But hey, guys, I think one of the huge
mistakes that the NFL is making with, you know, trying
to add an additional game, is you're going to diminish
the playoff games and your Super Bowl when you're starting
to look at less and less of your star players,
(16:38):
starters playing in those games when injuries is already it's
already a battle of attrition. You're already trying to be
the healthiest team going into the playoffs, and you're just
adding another game, uh into that. So yeah, I mean,
I think you know in the long haul, you're you're
diminishing some of the most important games of the season
in the playoffs, in the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Don't disagree at all, and you could have you what
you want, a super Bowl where Patrick Mahomes can't play
or you know what I mean, not that they're going
to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Anymore because that run is home. No, you were right
with the first time. It'll be uh, the Lions all time.
It would be the Lions chiefs. Me and Rob jis
Is gonna sit there the whole week dying, laughing up
somewhere they were hoping and playing. Listen, I don't ask
for much outside of it came to.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Rob g You know, I was feeling good at that one.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Got there, but the Lions, man, I needed the Lions Chiefs.
Oh my gosh, that would be amazing. You would be
torch this year. No Lions, No lines in the playoffs.
No lines in the playoffs. Come on, Wes, size ten.
I don't know what George should I get? What George
should Jordan bad? We have wings bet on the let's
(17:47):
go to Jordan's what two pairs of one? No?
Speaker 9 (17:50):
No, they were They were the best team in the
NFC last year. You gonna give me out? And the
Knicks were favored against the Well, you took them. The
only odd you get it, The only odd you get
is the name of this show.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
A couple. That's about the only odd. Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You would have won.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You the crazy one that was Sugar that won the
first of all the Pistons if they had little more experience,
they were beating them. They think they probably plus minus
up at the end of that series. They plain that,
ain't you gotta win games?
Speaker 7 (18:18):
Man?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You you you were just you bought into the to
the Homer hype and you were like, oh, they're beating
the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I never thought that was happening. That was the easiest
PERI books.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Youn't even respond.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
But you would you have been on the Knicks if
you are on the Pistons. If you knew Malie Beasley
was may or may not shaving points.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Stop it. See that's your fault. You didn't know that,
stop it stop you were doing homework. Man, he was
out here down bad NBA player on Dinnis Street. Hey man,
I know I owe you thirty five thousandnis? Is that?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Is that his third home run tonight?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
What am I watching?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Or?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Is that a rep? And it's not just Cody Bellinger?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
No? No, no, no no, But who was he played for?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
No? Was tlaking about him?
Speaker 5 (18:59):
You know there's a riveting game going over here on
your left with Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I've been watching that run looking good, rob rob G.
Did you see another home run there in the Bronx.
Did you see that catch from Aaron Judge?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Three home we has three home runs.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
And I'm saying he tell many people who everybody ain't
watching the Yankees like you are.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Ain't nobody watch it?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
This is on I on TV, which means I don't
want to watch?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Is that what ion means I don't want to watch?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
No, it means I have I don't want to watch,
I don't want to want to want to know. It
means I have an eye on it. Okay, that's what
it is I'm watching it. Okay, are you getting the
w n B A Are you serious? I'm all in
right now.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
How many games have you taken your daughters to this year?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Early?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Rob g you take your your daughters and your wife
to a w n B A game? No asking? How
many baseball guys I went to though? Okay?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Zero?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Okay? And how many w how many Lakers this year?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Zero?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
They're girls though they want to go to the that's supposed.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
To mean girls can't like baseball round? What are you
saying with that? What do you mean? You people say
people keeping the women in the box? Oh, hey, women,
you can only go see women. That's why the league's
not flourishing because they won't go. Who did I.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Argue with them?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
That w NBA woman, that's w NBA. You ain't gonna
make it six years? Man, I can feel it. Hey Scott, Now, yeah,
we got him.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
We got him this time. We got him?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
What did I say?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
The best part is, Rogie, There's been about three times
since I've been working with this guy that all of
a sudden, some crazy Rob Parker says his mouth, I'll
raised this stuff it And I've said, Kelvin Washington, my
mom I got to be right there with him. Well
he said this, but Rob said this, Now that that
w NBA lady.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Kelvin Washington sat there and let it happen.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yes, exactly. He didn't push back. I didn't push back.
That w NBA lady shot out to whoever.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's surprised that Spectrum hadn't said you sure you want
to do that show?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Like yeah, thank god, they love me. They love some
double dangle, they though for sure. All right, we got
Jeremy Shapp on the other side. That'll be really cool.
Get to talk to him right now.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
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Speaker 4 (21:18):
The Covil Robin Kelvin On a Fucky Flashback Friday, we
have the privilege talk to Jeremy Shapp right now, host
of V sixty and the sports reporters on ESPN. Jeremy,
how you doing, man, Jeremy.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
I'm good. How's it going, guys?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Going well?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Doing great? Doing great? Great to have you on.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
No, not appreciate, not a problem, looking forward to having
this conversation. Uh So, Yeah, just tell us a little
bit more about this project. You have South Paul the
life and legacy of Jim Abbott. We want to hear
a little bit more about that.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Absolutely, Yeah, very excited.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
So, you know, we've been working on this for a
long time. It's it's the Jim Abbit story. It uses
the no hitter that he pitched on September fourth, nineteen
ninety three, when he was the Yankees against Cleveland has
really kind of the spine of the story, and you know,
cuts flashes back and forth from the game to his
(22:14):
life story. But it's about more than his life story.
It's about more than his rise to prominence, and it's
about more than the no hitter. It is largely as
well about his impact, markable influence on the world and
especially on people who had situations like his.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
You know, we call it.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
The limb different community. Now, that wasn't a term that
we used when Jim Habbott was playing in the nineteen
age in the nineteen nineties, But a lot of the
story is about the kids who had situations like his
that he inspired, the way he helped their parents, their grandparents,
people who needed hope, who needed inspiration, and the remark
(23:00):
impact he's had in the world because it's his willingness
to make contact, reach out to and serve as a
role mod.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Well, I'm glad you brought that up real quick because
you may not know this. I'm a morning news anchor
here in la with Spectrum, who's one and one of
our reporters. Nicky k did a story on Justin McFadden
of is what University of Laverne, and he also has
the same challenge as that Jim did, and Jim has
been a mentor to him straighter. She just did this
story two weeks ago and then not Wow, Robbgi told us,
(23:34):
we're going to talk to you. I said, I have
to bring this up, and that was part of it.
She brought up how Jim Abbott has been a resource
for him, a friend for him, a role model for him,
and he just goes to your point.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Yeah, there's so many stories like that, and we speak
to so many. Speak to several professional athletes as well
who have limbed differences. Tim Griffin, who is the first
NFL player with one hand in Carson, tickets to the
US women's national team, Nick Nole, the mixed martial artists,
and everybody talks about how Jim played such an important
(24:08):
part in their lives, giving them hope, giving them inspiration,
and basically through his example tell you know, proving to
them that curdles challenges that even you know might seem
insurmountable can be overcome.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Jeremy, I always think like.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
People aren't born and their adults right away, you know,
growing up as a kid and going to the ballpark
or wanting to play, and kids can be very cool.
You know, they see stuff and they're just going to
say whatever they see and they don't have a filter.
And I think did Jim talk about that, like how
rough it was like just growing up and feeling like
(24:50):
trying to get to the ballpark and trying to have
fun with the other kids, and kids maybe shunning him
or not wanting him to play.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
He did, you know, we talked about that a lot,
and we talked about his experiences when he was very
young and initially, well not initially, but at a certain
age he got a prosthetic arm, and you know, we
talked about how, you know, kids could be cruel and
would call him Captain hooked things like that, and and
(25:21):
there were fights and there were insults, and there was
all that kind of stuff. And for Jim growing up
in Flint, Michigan, you know, sports were everything, and sports
was his ticket to accept it, to fitting in. And
(25:42):
you guys know, Jim Abbott incredible athlete, you know, not
just a baseball player, but a great hitter, high school quarterback.
Basketball was I think his first love athletically. I mean,
you know, a guy who could do anything athletically. And
because he was said jet standing athlete, that made it
(26:02):
easier for him to fit in. But there was still
the awkwardness. There was still you know, he talked about,
you know, hiding, hiding his his right arm in pictures.
You know, there are a lot of pictures of him
there with his right arm in a pocket, in one
of his pockets, and I think, you know, there was
a lot of trauma there, and he understands, you know,
(26:24):
how are the kids in that situation, whether it's a
limb difference or something else. You know, what it's like
to be bullied, what it's like to be different, and
how much you know you might want to just fit
in and just you know, not draw attention from everybody else.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, absolutely can understand that. Jeremy Shapp, hosts of E
sixty and the sports reporters on ESPN. Of course, Jeremy
shop if you want to follow him, and it's called
South Paul. It's going to be a sixty special there
the life and legacy of Jim Abbott. We're talking about
there just switching gears lip staying in baseball, but switching
Garrison a little bit and going from pitching staying in
the pitching realm Robin I Hud debates about just what
(27:05):
we're seeing right now. There's a couple of young great
pitchers in this league, Schoogle being one of them.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
You ever think we'll see what Clinton kershawl was able
to do? Three thousand strikeout club ever again you think
that's just those days are far removed or hey, you
never know.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Jeremy, I'm saying yes. I mean everybody says no, but
I think.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
You're saying, yes, Rob, that it will happen again.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yes, it will.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Well, everything happens again, right, I mean, look at baseball history.
And you know, I'm a guy who loves baseball history.
I'm speaked at it. I grew up with it. So
think about that's what people were saying in the eighties,
right when you had the generation of the great starting
pitchers like Jack Morris. Yep, And there was no one
from Jack Morris's generation who won three hundred gates. Not
(27:47):
a single picture born in the decades. The nineteen sixties
won three hundred games. But then you get to the sixties,
it's the whole different story again. You got Randy Johnson,
and you've got Roger Clemens, you got Tom you've got
Greg Maddox. To who am I forgetting there's one more,
(28:08):
it'll come to me. But you know, in the forties
and thirties you had Sutton and Seaver and Ryan and Carlton,
Uh and Perry and Micro. You had all those guys,
you know, so these things going ways. You had all
the great pictures of the hope. I'm not speaking out
too much, no, no, no, in nineteenth century and it's
(28:30):
the same thing with strikedowns because it's all about opportunity.
And look, things change, the game has changed. We all
know that there's some things that will never come back.
You know. We thought there'd never be three hundred game winners,
you know, but there were.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
But there will never be a five hundred.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Game winner again like Cy Young or one hundred game
winner again. Like Walter Johnson. Things change. You know, It's interesting.
You know, you had a whole period in baseball after
the turn of the twentieth century, right, and you had
a few guys who won three hundred were like Walter
Johnson and let the Grove won exactly three hundred. But
(29:06):
between you know, Letty Grove and the era we're talking
about of the Perrys and the Negroes and Receivers and
the Carltons, you just had an early win and Warren
spond for like forty years, right, So things change. But yeah,
what we've seen this fundamental change in the role of
the starting pitcher, the amount of you know, if you
(29:27):
told me when I was a kid that one of
the greatest pictures in baseball when I was in my
fifties would be a guy like Jacob de Gram winning
multiple Cy Young Awards, But I don't think he's gonna
He might got to get to one hundred career wins,
right right, right, you know, I mean, nobody can question
(29:47):
the greatness of Jacob de Gram, but you know, and
he's an extreme example, right because of all the injuries
he's had and stuff like that. But it's just totally different.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
One last thing, at least from me. I know it's
show Hay in the National League and Judge in the
American League. No, I'm just but but I no, no, no, no,
I'm just saying when when I when I look, because
to me, show Hay is not the best pitcher and
(30:18):
not the best hitter. But when you put it together,
there's no doubt he's the best baseball player because.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
He can do bothable.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Okay, but but what I'm talking about when I look
at Aaron Judge as far as power average, you know, Jeremy,
you know baseball, the bat the average batting average is
two forty two with no power.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
He said three sixty in July with power.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
You did.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
He's he's unique.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
He you know.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
I mean, what he's doing is just of course, it's ridiculous.
I mean, there are there are million words we can use.
It's ridiculous, right, I mean, the only thing in my lifetime.
And I don't watch the game. I still watch the game,
but I don't watch it follow as closely as when
I was covering it, you know, on a day to
day basis and all that kind of stuff. But it's
(31:12):
like what Barry Bonds was doing right twenty years ago,
when it was a home run or a walk, right,
and the guy was getting on base fifty six percent
of the time and hitting seventy home runs and doing
all of that. And of course it's different because you know,
we're talking about a different age and the age of
(31:33):
chemical enhancement twenty twenty five years ago in baseball. What
Judge is doing in this different era, it's just amazing.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Without a doubt. Jeremy, thank you so much. Looking forward
to seeing this.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
We just saw the a little bit of the trailer, right.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Man.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
You do great work as all, Jeremy. So Jeremy, and
we're gonna let you go because I got to finish
talking a lot more about Aaron Judge.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
It's a pleasure, guys anytime. Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Absolutely appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
You know they don't dunc in the WNBA, but you
know who could Duncan w and Aaron Judge, you know,
Browny and Cooper Flagg last night, But you know who
would have played better? Aaron Judge. You know, he's like
six or eight. He could have been a power for it.
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