November 19, 2024 • 37 mins
Rob and Kelvin react to the release of the MLB Hall of Fame ballot for 2025, and the guys break down why Pete Rose can never be allowed on the ballot. 97.1 The Ticket in Detroit Host Mike Stone joins the guys to reflect on the Malice at the Palace on the 20th anniversary of the event. Plus, is Jerry Jones just Al Davis at the end of his career?
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Speaker 2 (01:25):
What years did you work there at the fan?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh five? And oh six? Yep?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, yep, So he'll be yea, we're gonna talk about
the twentieth anniverse. We have the Malice at the Palace
has been twenty years and of course last call for
people who didn't get a chance to get in. So
there's a lot there. A couple quick things. We just
saw Jay Leno on television. He fell or something and.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Said he was walking down a hill going into a restaurant,
trip on a or landed on fell and landed on
a rock.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And he looks so bad. I can't believe that he
suffered so much damage.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's been a rough because he says his whole ribs
are jacked up. He had his finger was in a sling.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, it's almost you know how you see movies and
we all saw what really happened, but then they go
to work the next day.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Oh I slipped it. Feel It's almost like, is there
something else you ain't telling us?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Jay crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I know, like it's one of those look it up.
We wouldn't bring it up if it wasn't that bad.
And he's had a rough go to last couple of years,
involved in the fire fire and you know he's got
all those cars crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And also MICHAEH.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Parsons, Okay, I just want you this is from his
podcast Your Favorite turn Off is Michael.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I want you to read right.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
There, Michael Parsons, I'm gonna put this out there. We're
a damn good football team. Is he talking about his
little cousins high school football team?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
This is this is what this is the podcast you're
tuning into so that Michael Parsons can tell you that
the Cowboys are quote a damn good football team. Is that?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Is that what it is? Yeah, this is what I'm
talking about. Was talking about I don't do that, Rob.
He was talking about his Madden team. He was talking
about the Cowboys. You know, he was playing Madden and
it was a live stream and somebody was like, you know,
it's a Danga football team talking about his Madden team.
Because there's no way he's talking about the same Dallas
Cowboys that we have been forced to watch this season.
(03:19):
Who have not won a game at home, even when
they had Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So let's do this. We're gonna get into this. And
the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot is out. It came
out a day ago. As you guys all know, I'm
a Baseball Hall of Fame voter. I have no kids, Kelvin,
so this is the most prized possession of my life.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It really is. I take it very seriously. I do.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I don't load up. You get ten vote, ten votes,
I don't do that. If there's two people that should
be there, I'm gonna use my two votes. I'm not
gonna just vote for people. There are a lot of
players I've known over covering baseball for almost thirty nine
years now, and I don't just go, well, hey, I
covered him in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He was cool. I'm gonna give him a vote out.
That's cool, armored vote.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
No, it's you should earn it, and it should be serious, right,
really really serious.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Okay, So the ballot is out.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
There are fourteen players on the Hall of Fame ballot
for the first time. How you get on the ballot
is all you have to do is play in the
big leagues, retire for five years and you're on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So there.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
God, it's not like there's some numbers you gotta hit
or just if you played and you would, you've been
retired for five years. You get on the ballot, Okay, okay.
And there's some big names on here, and people we
already know, like each your ro right, okay, C. C. Sabathia,
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people like that. There are a couple other people on
their King Felix, Dustin Petroya, people like that. There are
some good names, right, and other people, other guys who
will had really good careers, like a Curtis Granderson had.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
A good career. He's not a Hall of fame. That
he's just not a Hall of fame.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
But here's the big one. So now Pete Rose died.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
We were on the air, remember when he died.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And now here's the drum beat that Pete Rose should
get it. Now.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Remember he's not on the ballot and he's been banned
from baseball. So Baseball they don't control what the writers
vote on.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
They do not.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
They have nothing. And people need to remember this that
even the awards or whatever were writers awards and Baseball
adopted them you know what I mean, Like people do you
always say, oh, I can't believe they voted for so
and so as the MVP.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
They should take the writers vote away.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, no, no, those are our awards that Baseball Yes
adopted because they wanted somebody independent to be the ones
over the games. I hate to break it to you guys.
All right, So now Pete Rose is not on the ballot,
but there's this groundswell of people saying that he should
(06:11):
be now put in the Hall of Fame now that
he's deceased. Now that he's gone, he won't have the
honor of having his day in the sun being up there.
And if you've ever been to Cooper's town, which I have,
because a couple of my friends who are writers have
gone in Tom Gage from the Detroit News, Joe Falls,
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a longtime columnist.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Of the Detroit News, my friend.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Hal McCoy, who was a baseball writer in Commas for
the Dayton Daily News. Like these are my friends and
they all got into the Hall of Fame. So I've
been up there a few times. All of Pete Rose's
stuff is in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
So not like his memory is it's Etchton Stone because
it's a part of baseball.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
His team, the player is not solidified.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
He just doesn't have the plaque with his name in
his image that all the great players who are in
the Hall of Fame have. That's the only thing that's missing.
I don't believe he belongs in. I think he committed
the ultimate sin. And here's the other pushback. Well, baseball's
in game, in bed with gamblers now right, They've got
(07:19):
all his things and people are I went to a
Washington Nationals game.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
They have a betting place right next door to the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I can't literally go from the bet MGM spot and
then walking to the ballpark and they're right next to this,
side by side.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I was at a Cleveland Cavaliers game. The betting outlet
is right inside the are way way more CoA.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You got so much happening out here in La now
with the Inglewood near in Inglewood.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean, so that's what they're saying now, is like,
well gambling, we don't look at it the same way anymore.
These teams are teams are in bed. They're taking gambling money,
but they're still You saw all the players that have
been suspended in the NFL for even gambling on all
those spores put in the facilities, right, Michael Porter or brother, Yeah, exactly.
And at the time when Pete Rose gamble, and you
(08:09):
know this, when you walk into a baseball clubhouse, the
biggest sign in the room is about gambling and being
banned for life. Right, No, there's no great area. Well, man,
I didn't know if I did this. No, Like that
is the biggest thing and the worst part about it.
And I truly believed this. Had Pete Rose fessed up
(08:33):
and begged for apologize first, beg for forgiveness, he would
be in the Hall. He would have been in the
Hall of Fame a long time ago. He lied for
fourteen years, even though they had all the evidence against him,
and then even his apologies were half hearted and he
never ever really.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
What's controlled.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
That's the part that last word contrition. People want to
actually give you a second chance. Now, we're gonna be
hard on you, we're gonna dog you, we're gonna do this,
we're gonna do that. But after a while there's a
period where we're like, you know what, this perfect person
has served their time enough. But one of the ways
in which you get back in is showing contrition, showing
(09:17):
that you learned the lessons, showing kind of falling on
the sword, saying falling down and kneeling for forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And he never did that.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
He barely admitted it, kind of sort of admitted it,
told you almost. You know, it's like if you apolitize
somebody like I did it, but get over it, dag
my bad.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So what I didn't get over it? He didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
He didn't really own that and allow baseball to say,
all right, you did this, give us a time to
figure out a way. Like you start to see all
the steroid players, right, you see Mark McGuire start to
come back around.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And be a hitting coach and be around.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Uh you start to see again, you see Alex Rodriguez.
You don almost forget he got caught twice. He's on,
he is doing this World Series calls because he he
admitted it. We got caught, he apologized, We all moved
on and let time heal those wounds. Pete Rose didn't
and he also did this, rob He kept getting into
(10:10):
other stuff. He kept getting into little other things. If
you're gonna try to get back into something, you gotta apologize,
be contrite, and then be a saint.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And guess what he did. He went out and went
straight to Las Vegas and opened up shots.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And opened up like the first like that was rubbing
it in baseball, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
He went to the Hall of Fame down the road
from the Hall of Fame and signed autographs and made
a spectacle of himself down.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Regularly, yes, regularly.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And then there's some other things that you know, we
won't get into. Some some issues too. So I just
think it wasn't just he had this one random one
off where he did this thing, became a saint, beg
for forgiveness, did a bunch of robs, say he butt
a bunch of panels on gambling, and then you know,
Gambler's anonymous for twenty years. And I used Michael Vick
as an example. Michael, where he grew up culturally, he
(11:03):
just kind of like fighting dogs. What everybody does, black people,
white people, Latinos, especially in the southern regional in the
Midwestern that's what everybody fighting dogs.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
He didn't think it was a problem.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Then it got criminal when they started to become an enterprise, right,
and then he goes and goes to do prison for
two years no one else had done prison time for
animal crimes. He did prison time. Michael Vick was the
dude come out and everyone, every single group, whether it's PETA,
whether it's people in the community, whether it's the NFL,
everyone said, he has shown contrition. He has been the
(11:35):
perfect shining example of redemption. And Michael Vick now is
you know, back talking football and having a good point
and living his life and to end up being comeback
Player of the Year with the Eagles. Remember everybody outside
of the stadiums within one of them there pet Rose
didn't follow that. And so now that he's gone, there's
no way there's gonna turn around and all right, he's dead.
Let's put him in now. Because if he was that,
if he was that worthy, then you could have done
(11:57):
You did it, you do it before.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And baseball a few.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Number of years back, I don't know if you remember this,
they gave him a chance because he was banning, wasn't
supposed to take part in any kind of baseball Cincinnati,
remember for the All Star Game in Cincinnati, because they
were doing the Mount Rushmore the four greatest players of
every team, and they were like, we can't do this
in Cincinnati. If you don't put out having Pete Rose
(12:22):
a part of the Mount Rushmore of the Cincinnati read
the Big Red Machine, Baseball bowed and bent on that,
and then like I don't know, a couple of weeks later,
came out with the book that he did bet on baseball, right, Like.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It's just he kept not to go back to the
cheddar Bob example, but shooting himself with a foot and
it's like, man, he was supposed to own for the
next fifteen twenty years own it. He was a great player,
you know, But he was a great He was a
Hall of Fame player, absolutely, but they're just not gonna
put him.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
In, all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
You know, I have a vote. I'm telling you, even
if his name was on the ballot, which is not,
I wouldn't vote for him. But do you believe that
baseball are the writers or the Hall of Fame? Not
the writers because he's not on the ballot, but that
he belongs to the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That that's really do you do you believe?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And especially now since he's deceased, he's dead and he
doesn't get to.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Be a bit share enough.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Dan And he said he wanted that to be with
his family and grandkids and before he died, and that
was not the case.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
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Speaker 2 (14:35):
All Right, eight seven, seven ninety nine. On Fox, We're
talking about they want to talk to Pete Rose.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
He Rose, I told you. I knew that people wanted
to talk about this. This has been out there since
the ballot came out. So here we go. Let's start with, uh,
is that Scott in San Diego? You're in the EYD
couple of Fox Sports Diego.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
What's up? Scott?
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Super charges there?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Now go go.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
Yeah, we love the padres. I feel the stats alone
road should be in there. And then the Michael Big
example where there's dog fighting.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Whatever.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
If he says, oh, I'm sorry, I had people out
to my ranch and we did dog fighting. But I'm
sorry he's back. Rose is dead man. He paid in life.
He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. You
could get two hundred hits a year for twenty thinking years.
To get four thousand hits, no one's breaking that record.
That's my fag.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Okay, but no, I appreciate Scott. But Scott, we can
let him go. But he undersold what Michael Vick did.
It wasn't I had people at my houser. No, he
went on a dude was in prison for two years
and he went on a campaign of learning. And if
you talk to the Peter Folk. And I'm not saying
you you should have to have to have to, but
I'm saying, if you want to get in, you got
to play the.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Game, Mike.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And the other thing too, is you're messing with the
integrity of the game. That's why it's so much anti gambling.
That's why those NFL players with suspended NBA, NBA and
what was the guy's name, Ridley what Atlanta was suspect
like the year for like a year from the NFL, Like,
you cannot mess around with gambling.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
It's like the last hope you have me and you
talked about this before the greatest reality TV of sports.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You cannot. And when people don't believe what they're watching,
it becomes it becomes pro wrestling like that. That's what
they're trying to safeguard with the integrity of the game.
James in Nashville, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Thank you for the opportunity to be to speak my
defending on the subject. I just got in my car
from work when you guys were talking about this, and
one of you has said about him lying about it
for thirteen years fourteen, just like, yeah, it's just like
you know, Bill Clinton didn't get him peached because he
had central contact with Monica Lewinsky. He got him peached
(16:54):
because they lied to Kenneth Starr about it. With the
same thing with pe Broms came out and told the
truth like you all said, and apologized. But I agree
with whoever base whoever said, we never came up with
a narrative that he never really sincerely apologized. You hit
the net. Whichever woman you said that earlier, hit the
nail man.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
James James one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I've been coming baseball for thirty nine years, okay, And
Pete Rose, no Offens or Bucks Kelvin would be in
the Hall of Fame today if he apologized immediately and
said I made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I never meant to hurt baseball.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I'm going to Gambler's anonymous and I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
And he wanted a campaign and doing all the PSAs
and commercials. Hey, this is why gambling kids talking to
one hundred percent. We want to listen, we want to
forgive you, we want baseball doesn't want. It's all time
hit king in the Hall of Fame. Stop it, guys.
And it's just also the way his life. He just
had a he just had a unique life and they
(17:55):
just couldn't risk Is he gonna burn us again if
we let him?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Is he gonna do something else? He might not even
be gambling.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Really, he had some other issues of he mans big
time and will there be something else where we go?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Dagga, Pete, we gave.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You a shot, and look what you did. Mason in
the Bay Area. You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yo, Yo, what up? Crazy? Uh?
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Trash talk. But I'm a young I'm a young buck.
So I mean, I obviously.
Speaker 10 (18:25):
Didn't watch a play or anything like.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
That, but I'm just coming from this perspective. You know,
whether it was right or wrong, his story gonna be told, bro,
And uh, you know, uh, he can't look the other
way on this. And we got a lot of funny
stuff with some people in the Hall of Fame who
do some funny stuff. So I just think at the
end of the day, you know, put him in there.
(18:48):
You know, his story should be told.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
His story it's told.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
He's all in the Hall of Fame, all of his accomplishments, everything.
But did not like anything with Pete Roles want to
take it out. That's not what the Hall of Fame is.
Greg and Lancaster, you're on the table Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (19:06):
What's up hey, great show, Rob, glad to hear you, Thank.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You, YouTube, Government appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know.
Speaker 11 (19:13):
The way I look at it is and like you
just said, it's a valid argument. His stuff is in
the Hall of Fame. So they're basically saying, Hey, come
and see Pete Rose's stuff, but we're not putting them in.
What you guys, you're pimping them? Is that what you're
doing to get.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
His stuff out of there?
Speaker 11 (19:30):
If you don't want people paying money to go into
the Hall of Fame and this stuff, but his stuff
ain't in there. And and the other thing is that
he did that as a manager.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Let me let me stop this, Greg. Okay, Greg, here
we go. Here's how Pete Rose, and I've said this
to people before. Hear me out, Greg, how as a
manager you could also alter the game. Okay, I got
a big bet on a game that I'm trying to win.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I got a doublehead of Tomorrow, Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I blow out my bullpen trying to win the game
because I got money on it.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Have I affected Greg? The next day? Have I affected
baked the game at all.
Speaker 11 (20:13):
You blew your reliever's life.
Speaker 10 (20:15):
You're exactly right.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Okay, So now I don't have them for tomorrow because
if I was didn't have money on the game, I
would just let the game go. I might let the
second basement pitch. Do you see what I'm saying? So so, Greg,
you do affect the game.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Even with my guys, who are hey e skipper, I
don't really know if I play no no no no
no no, we need you. I'm just saying I can
play a little bit, but I'd rather just sit out
of there or two no no, get out there.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
We need you.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
This is not absolutely managers can affect the game, especially
we know how important the managers are when it comes
to managing the bullpen and just when you put the pitch,
who you put in.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Squeeze and who we got?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Chris Syracuse, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
What's up Chris?
Speaker 12 (21:00):
How you guys?
Speaker 13 (21:02):
I think he should be in Okay. I think gambling
like alcohol, is a disease, and I think people that
fall under that stell in many ways they're out of control.
But as a baseball player, you know I was never
a Reds Family Yankee fan, but I hate appreciate. I
saw a big red machine player.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
He was a great player, Chris. That ain't even the issue.
And let me ask you this real quick. Yeah, it
doesn't bother you that he would never acknowledge or at
least have a really you know, big contriste like you
know what I mean, apologize.
Speaker 13 (21:37):
Yes, here's my point about that many guys, different people
are built different. You look at a guy like Bobby Knight.
That guy would rip your head off and eve when
he had no contrition. He did a lot of crazy things.
Some people I had an arcle like this. He was
so intense and just some people are built differently. And
I realized he's not a controlled guy. He's not a
(21:59):
guy maybe hang out with. But I believe he's a
good He should be in the home.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Okay, all right, thank your opinion, Chris. I'm not mad
at that at all. Yep, all right, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Hey man, everybody, Yeah, you carry the conversation over to
social media. If we can't get your last call to
last call. We got that coming up in about fifteen
minutes or so.
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Speaker 2 (22:28):
Hey marm White, thank you, have a good night.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Hang on because we got Michael Stone Stony from ninety seven,
one of the ticket in Detroit, uh, the original, one
of the original Odd Couple co hosts, joining us here
on the Odd Couple. What's up, Stony?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
How are you doing? Is that Martin wife?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Do you know what? Pr and Kelvin washing? Didn't work?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
That?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
The fan tell you? I was hanging up.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I was hanging up posters for U wo Stony and
Woe Joe was hanging up posters and Key James.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I was in five and six.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, I was putting up all the bumper stickers and
hanging out with us allegian and not the whole crew
out there.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
A lot of fun. Kelvin, how you made it for
the big time?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Well you know my ass Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No ya.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I watched all y'all. I learned from y'all man back
in the day. So it's a full circle moment for you.
Speaker 11 (23:18):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I'm happy to be on with you.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And it was Stony and I started the Odd couple
in nineteen ninety four at the fan in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Y'all were definitely too because you are nuts and crazy
and loud and stony. What he's nutsing, crazy and loud
on the radio, but he's actually very chill my manner
off the mic, you're kind of crazy in both.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, Rob is just like an old Jewish man and
then a black man's.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Body that thousand percent agreed Calvin Martin.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Calvin, do you know any black guy that likes Seinfeld
and can't dance or play?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
I mean, come on, it's like you listen to this
like clearly you were the original because you know everything
we say about him up here, Alex.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's why you gave him the ding. That's the same
thing we say. What absolutely?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Ah right, Stony, you already all right, you're gonna wear
out your welcome again?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Is that what you're doing? All right?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Well, we have Stony on because it was years ago, Yeah,
twenty years ago, Stony. You know this, well, Malice at
the Palace, what Tony was there? Craziest things to ever
winn is?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You were there?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
So just start right there? What was that like? Something
we'd never seen on that level before?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
It was crazy? I mean I was, you know, they
were big rivals. Obviously, the Pistons won the title the
year before, beating them in the Eastern Conference finals with
a Friday night national televised game. It was a date
night in my house. I was there with my wife,
just hanging out very close to where the action took place.
And it's like, you know, first of all, if you
want to blame anybody, obviously our Test and Ben Wallace
(24:52):
and all that stuff, the fans. Yeah, but I think
I think some blame has to be on Rick Carlisle
and Larry Brown. What were the pacers were blowing the
Pistons out? What were Ben Wallace and our tests even
doing in the game at that time? Anyway, that's my rant.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
On that I hear you Uh, go ahead, Sony.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
So you know, you know, our test has the hard
foulon on Ben Wallace for no reason. Then Wallace shoves
them and then you know, they they get a little crazy,
and then our test sits on the scores table. Now
we couldn't I was sitting like about ten rows behind
the Pistons bench near the scorers table. You could like
couldn't see what was going on. And the next thing
you know, our test goes to the crowd and then
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Stephen Jackson's going to the crowd. They're they're throwing punches
and people are going crazy, and Mason's yelling get off
the court, and Larry Brown and then Germaine O'Neill and
another fan on the other side, and I mean the
whole thing. You know, we go watch it on video
and you see the documentaries. The whole thing took like
six seven minutes I think, and it was just it
was nuts and it changed the sport, and to a
(25:55):
certain extent because they have now those you know, barriers
were because the tunnels that they put up, the ar
official tones and no idiots can throw the stuff on
players anymore. It was crazy, man. I mean, Jermaine O'Neil
could have.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
Killed that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, but that guy shouldn't have been down on a floor.
That was he put hisself in jeopardy because once you
come on the floor stony in.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Europe play crazy situation. All right, what is.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Jermaine O'Neil supposed to think that guy could come up
and do something to him?
Speaker 11 (26:21):
Right?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I totally agree with you, and not just the other one,
like I think it was Stephen Jackson when he went
into the stands and even when our test they had
the wrong guy.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
This John Green dude who throws this plastic cup and
they went after somebody else and the poor guy who
was like but must do he was getting the crap.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Kicked out of him and they threw a chair in
the stands and people. I was like, dude, that could
have a kid like like that was.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Wall That was Ben Wallace's brother.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
He was huge, threw the yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, that guy got crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Let me ask you this because this was the next
The next day, the big topic everywhere, whether it just
be with your own friends or radio was like like,
was Ron our test now Metal World piece wrong? And
what I find interesting is it's it's a fifty to
fifty because you just brought it up. He's already has
a reputation for being a fighter and heated. He and
Ban Wallace are getting into it. He actually tried to go,
(27:15):
let me go have a komba a moment and lay
down on this score table just to say I'm out
of it, I'm out of it, I'm out of it.
Then a fan who has nothing to do with this
throws a you know, a cup of beer whatever at him.
So where were you on that in a sense of hey,
the fan had it coming, or it's never worth going
in the stands, or hey, I can understand why he did.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Where were you well with the fans fault for throwing
a cup, but it was we want it was a bottle.
He drew a cup, a roun our test and I
don't think he got injured. He was startled. And look,
you know, as much as Rob is correct, as far
as the fan who ran onto the court, you should
never do that. Players should never run into the stands.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Never ever, ever, never ever never.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
And you know it's crazy. You saw you know, you
see the video like Mahorne who was doing the game,
you know the radio, he's up there, Rashid. They're trying
to get the fans either trying to be peacemakers.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
It was seeing Rashid as a peacemaker. No, that was
a moment and Stoney, you know, I didn't make it.
I had a speaking engagement that night, and I lived
downtown Detroit and I was driving on Jefferson about, you know,
to get on the freeway to head up to the Palace.
I get in the car the pistons are down by
fifteen and my apartment.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
It was a cold night. I remember my apartment was
on the left.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I came to the light where I either had to
turn left into my apartment or keep going to get
on the freeway. And I'm like, I'm not driving all
the way up there, because the palace is.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Thirty miles in case.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
There's thirty miles on the freeway, you know, to get
to the palace. And I'm like, it's already halftime. It
doesn't make sense for me to drive up there. And
I would have missed it anyway, because it happened as
soon as I got in the house.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Everything was crazy, it was, and.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Then you know, it was playfully so people you know,
John saw On believed the great John Saunders. They you know,
they started calling all the Detroit fans thuds and all that.
It was like, I never saw anything.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Like I want you to know that Stephen A was
a part of the panel that night or whatever, and
those guys were all going off and I did actually
talk to him, you know, like after they did their
first wave and then they came back and then they
started they realized that what they were saying was not
what they should have been saying.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Right, let me ask you that you brought up the gentleman. Well,
I don't say gentleman, but the guy who threw the drink.
He ended up admitting it was him and he had
issues in his life. I think he was coming off
a divorce. He was an alcoholic. And he said, of
all people you know who befriended him, Ron Artest, he's
become his friend and they they touch crazy story, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I know, and you know I know he got. I
don't remember if he got, like heget jail time or anything,
this John Green guy, but he was banned from all
events at the palace, Like if you really wanted to go,
he could have done a Bobby Valentine Disgui.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
So I don't know, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Last thing, Stony Kelvin is probably the biggest Lions homer
on the radio anywhere. So he has the Lions winning
the Super Bowl. We just need yet the Lions will
win the Super Bowl? Stony, Yes or no?
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Right now for the best team in football?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yes or no, Stony, I don't want no middle of
the row.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
What do they got, I'll say no. I thought they
go they'll go and lose, all right, but they're the best.
But they're the best team.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
No, he's just been he's been abused for too long. Abused.
That's a great line. No, no, it's not. Look at
you smileing. Come on, Stony, Rob is the biggest lion.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Fact he thinks just because you know what he thinks,
the ghost of Wayne Fons is going to show up.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Hey, Stony, I was right for thirty years though, Can
you admit that?
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Of course we all were. Okay, I gave up my
season tickets six years ago. I'm like killing myself now
because I could have made a lot of money there.
So they're crazy. Yeah, here's the other thing, Rob, But
even though I know you're a hater, you have to
make all my a lot of my friends from New
York's silly and all that. Whatever. Everybody I know they
(31:11):
love the love Lines or America's Team to watch. They're likable, Sony.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You guys like, oh god, I've been telling Stony, thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
I literally we literally did a segment where I said
they are America's team. You what you know, because in
the sixties the Cowboys and in the seventies, it's.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Just that people feel like the lines are so pathetic
that they want to have a heartwarming story. And when
the Lions lose Tony, like you said, they'll go same
old line. There'll be another situation watching and they'll be
like same old Liney. It was great shaded stony Mike
Stone from ninety seven won the ticket one of the
(31:50):
original odd Couple members uh back in nineteen kept.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Me excited, Rob rob me all right.
Speaker 11 (31:58):
Well.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Other good thing is I'm he's alive and well, lets
me know, me doing my time with you like a
prison sentence.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I'll be all right, thank you, Mike. We appreciate it, man, Martin.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
I imitated you the other day because I had to
do a Lions postgame show on a on a night
game and then I had to fill it at six
am in the morning. Wow, ile on the I slept
on the couch like you used to do.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Mark is a hard worker for sure. All right, thank
you man, I appreciate it. Hey, we got last call
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eighty seven seven
ninety nine on Fox. Will take that call? Hit us up?
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Speaker 2 (32:44):
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Speaker 4 (32:45):
It is your boys, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington, The Odd Couple.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
On a show Man. This was a great show.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Can't say dockyd Alex put this one in the books,
Ryan put this put it over here. Great show. Thank
you all for being a part of it as well.
We truly mean that. Coming to you live from the
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Speaker 6 (33:01):
What you got Alan, I just wanted to say, Rob,
it's good to know you're a fan of the people
and you love groups. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
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Speaker 2 (33:27):
You know what time it is?
Speaker 11 (33:28):
Time?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Is it last Come?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Its last call? Last call time on the Odd Come.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
So I told you I can't listen, do you want
me to pass out? Alex on the just fall up?
You take your masser? No, I fell off for of you.
I'm not gonna lie my family.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Out what they put it in the back of the fridge.
So getting up in the morning to do the morning
so I forget. I'll be back though tomorrow. I'm gonna
text you.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Hi, Andy in Virginia, you're the last call on your couple.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
What's up?
Speaker 13 (34:08):
Uh?
Speaker 12 (34:09):
Hi, guys, I hope you're having a good night. Yes, sir,
I'm calling because I'm calling to complain about my Cowboys.
I've been a fan since the Emmitt Smith, Beyond Aikman
rocket Ishmael days. But Jerry Jones is getting.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
A pass because he's exactly like Al Davis, except just
because he's a good businessman, they get a pass on it.
He doesn't draft well, he doesn't build his team well.
He's not a good GM. He won't give up the power,
he won't get out of his own way. So that's
why I don't think Bill Belichick goes towards the Cowboys,
(34:45):
because he wants full control and Jerry Jones won't let
him have it.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
He shouldn't come out and is it my monkey.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
You know what, that's hard. I hear you.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
And Jerry just won't give up. It's just not gonna happen.
And thirty years, it's almost thirty years. If he hasn't
done it by now, there's no way you're gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Now, he's gonna be in the hospital and hospitals like,
all right, who we drafted?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
What are we doing? Who are we looking at a
running back? From where? I mean?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Did he look like a cowboy? We look good in
the start? I mean, yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
What about them gallboy?
Speaker 4 (35:21):
What about yeah? And hey, Andy brought up a great point.
Al Davis act was getting old towards the end. Just
the whole win, baby win when they wouldn't win nothing.
They're making bad a scions when they kept drafting terrible.
All they were draft is like a wide receiver because
he was fast. It just got bad. Like it's a
different And that's the thing. You have to be able
to adapt to the times, adapt to the because look,
(35:42):
all sports leagues.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Change, right.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
It was a running, running, running defense for years, then
it became a passing league. Now it's kind of a
running NBA was pounded slow wins sixty eight to seventy two,
you know, and Nan became three points like, you have
to be able to adapt and if you just stuck
in my way is the only way, this is the
way we have to do it, it doesn't work. And
you have to also hire to your weaknesses. You know
what Desiness owner exactly. And that's the biggest thing. You
(36:06):
can't do everything, and you got to hire people who
are experts and stuff. And that's what Jerry has refused
to do is he won't allow people other people who
no more than you.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
We get it. You own the team.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
That doesn't mean you know all the ins and outs
of the scouting and the football people. And then you
got a whole house or business full of family members
too who won't speak. They're not gonna tell their dad
what to do. So that's not what you want. You
don't want all yes men or a yes family around.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Wait, so are we talking about the cowboys or the presidency?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
The cowboy? Okay thoughts you were talking about? All right,
what's today?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
There's a worship Wednesday tomorrow, My goodness, gration man today
flew by it too, man, good show.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
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Speaker 4 (36:50):
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Speaker 2 (36:54):
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Set it off wrong by way of mentioning Mike Tyson, shit,
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be coming up in about twenty eight minutes. Stony my
man Mike Stone from ninety seven to one The Ticket
in Detroit, an original Odd Couple co hosts, first started
doing radio and unbelievbeled and that whole little Clear channel
at the time. Now, of course iHeart Yes, I was
just a little old Street promo guy, just street.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
What years did you work there at the fan?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh five? And oh six? Yep?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, yep, So he'll be yea, we're gonna talk about
the twentieth anniverse. We have the Malice at the Palace
has been twenty years and of course last call for
people who didn't get a chance to get in. So
there's a lot there. A couple quick things. We just
saw Jay Leno on television. He fell or something and.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Said he was walking down a hill going into a restaurant,
trip on a or landed on fell and landed on
a rock.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And he looks so bad. I can't believe that he
suffered so much damage.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's been a rough because he says his whole ribs
are jacked up. He had his finger was in a sling.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, it's almost you know how you see movies and
we all saw what really happened, but then they go
to work the next day.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Oh I slipped it. Feel It's almost like, is there
something else you ain't telling us?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Jay crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I know, like it's one of those look it up.
We wouldn't bring it up if it wasn't that bad.
And he's had a rough go to last couple of years,
involved in the fire fire and you know he's got
all those cars crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And also MICHAEH.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Parsons, Okay, I just want you this is from his
podcast Your Favorite turn Off is Michael.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I want you to read right.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
There, Michael Parsons, I'm gonna put this out there. We're
a damn good football team. Is he talking about his
little cousins high school football team?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
This is this is what this is the podcast you're
tuning into so that Michael Parsons can tell you that
the Cowboys are quote a damn good football team. Is that?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Is that what it is? Yeah, this is what I'm
talking about. Was talking about I don't do that, Rob.
He was talking about his Madden team. He was talking
about the Cowboys. You know, he was playing Madden and
it was a live stream and somebody was like, you know,
it's a Danga football team talking about his Madden team.
Because there's no way he's talking about the same Dallas
Cowboys that we have been forced to watch this season.
(03:19):
Who have not won a game at home, even when
they had Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So let's do this. We're gonna get into this. And
the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot is out. It came
out a day ago. As you guys all know, I'm
a Baseball Hall of Fame voter. I have no kids, Kelvin,
so this is the most prized possession of my life.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It really is. I take it very seriously. I do.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I don't load up. You get ten vote, ten votes,
I don't do that. If there's two people that should
be there, I'm gonna use my two votes. I'm not
gonna just vote for people. There are a lot of
players I've known over covering baseball for almost thirty nine
years now, and I don't just go, well, hey, I
covered him in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He was cool. I'm gonna give him a vote out.
That's cool, armored vote.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
No, it's you should earn it, and it should be serious, right,
really really serious.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Okay, So the ballot is out.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
There are fourteen players on the Hall of Fame ballot
for the first time. How you get on the ballot
is all you have to do is play in the
big leagues, retire for five years and you're on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So there.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
God, it's not like there's some numbers you gotta hit
or just if you played and you would, you've been
retired for five years. You get on the ballot, Okay, okay.
And there's some big names on here, and people we
already know, like each your ro right, okay, C. C. Sabathia,
(04:49):
people like that. There are a couple other people on
their King Felix, Dustin Petroya, people like that. There are
some good names, right, and other people, other guys who
will had really good careers, like a Curtis Granderson had.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
A good career. He's not a Hall of fame. That
he's just not a Hall of fame.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
But here's the big one. So now Pete Rose died.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
We were on the air, remember when he died.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And now here's the drum beat that Pete Rose should
get it. Now.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Remember he's not on the ballot and he's been banned
from baseball. So Baseball they don't control what the writers
vote on.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
They do not.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
They have nothing. And people need to remember this that
even the awards or whatever were writers awards and Baseball
adopted them you know what I mean, Like people do you
always say, oh, I can't believe they voted for so
and so as the MVP.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
They should take the writers vote away.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, no, no, those are our awards that Baseball Yes
adopted because they wanted somebody independent to be the ones
over the games. I hate to break it to you guys.
All right, So now Pete Rose is not on the ballot,
but there's this groundswell of people saying that he should
(06:11):
be now put in the Hall of Fame now that
he's deceased. Now that he's gone, he won't have the
honor of having his day in the sun being up there.
And if you've ever been to Cooper's town, which I have,
because a couple of my friends who are writers have
gone in Tom Gage from the Detroit News, Joe Falls,
(06:34):
a longtime columnist.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Of the Detroit News, my friend.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Hal McCoy, who was a baseball writer in Commas for
the Dayton Daily News. Like these are my friends and
they all got into the Hall of Fame. So I've
been up there a few times. All of Pete Rose's
stuff is in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
So not like his memory is it's Etchton Stone because
it's a part of baseball.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
His team, the player is not solidified.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
He just doesn't have the plaque with his name in
his image that all the great players who are in
the Hall of Fame have. That's the only thing that's missing.
I don't believe he belongs in. I think he committed
the ultimate sin. And here's the other pushback. Well, baseball's
in game, in bed with gamblers now right, They've got
(07:19):
all his things and people are I went to a
Washington Nationals game.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
They have a betting place right next door to the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I can't literally go from the bet MGM spot and
then walking to the ballpark and they're right next to this,
side by side.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I was at a Cleveland Cavaliers game. The betting outlet
is right inside the are way way more CoA.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You got so much happening out here in La now
with the Inglewood near in Inglewood.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean, so that's what they're saying now, is like,
well gambling, we don't look at it the same way anymore.
These teams are teams are in bed. They're taking gambling money,
but they're still You saw all the players that have
been suspended in the NFL for even gambling on all
those spores put in the facilities, right, Michael Porter or brother, Yeah, exactly.
And at the time when Pete Rose gamble, and you
(08:09):
know this, when you walk into a baseball clubhouse, the
biggest sign in the room is about gambling and being
banned for life. Right, No, there's no great area. Well, man,
I didn't know if I did this. No, Like that
is the biggest thing and the worst part about it.
And I truly believed this. Had Pete Rose fessed up
(08:33):
and begged for apologize first, beg for forgiveness, he would
be in the Hall. He would have been in the
Hall of Fame a long time ago. He lied for
fourteen years, even though they had all the evidence against him,
and then even his apologies were half hearted and he
never ever really.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
What's controlled.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
That's the part that last word contrition. People want to
actually give you a second chance. Now, we're gonna be
hard on you, we're gonna dog you, we're gonna do this,
we're gonna do that. But after a while there's a
period where we're like, you know what, this perfect person
has served their time enough. But one of the ways
in which you get back in is showing contrition, showing
(09:17):
that you learned the lessons, showing kind of falling on
the sword, saying falling down and kneeling for forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And he never did that.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
He barely admitted it, kind of sort of admitted it,
told you almost. You know, it's like if you apolitize
somebody like I did it, but get over it, dag
my bad.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So what I didn't get over it? He didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
He didn't really own that and allow baseball to say,
all right, you did this, give us a time to
figure out a way. Like you start to see all
the steroid players, right, you see Mark McGuire start to
come back around.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And be a hitting coach and be around.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Uh you start to see again, you see Alex Rodriguez.
You don almost forget he got caught twice. He's on,
he is doing this World Series calls because he he
admitted it. We got caught, he apologized, We all moved
on and let time heal those wounds. Pete Rose didn't
and he also did this, rob He kept getting into
(10:10):
other stuff. He kept getting into little other things. If
you're gonna try to get back into something, you gotta apologize,
be contrite, and then be a saint.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And guess what he did. He went out and went
straight to Las Vegas and opened up shots.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And opened up like the first like that was rubbing
it in baseball, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
He went to the Hall of Fame down the road
from the Hall of Fame and signed autographs and made
a spectacle of himself down.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Regularly, yes, regularly.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And then there's some other things that you know, we
won't get into. Some some issues too. So I just
think it wasn't just he had this one random one
off where he did this thing, became a saint, beg
for forgiveness, did a bunch of robs, say he butt
a bunch of panels on gambling, and then you know,
Gambler's anonymous for twenty years. And I used Michael Vick
as an example. Michael, where he grew up culturally, he
(11:03):
just kind of like fighting dogs. What everybody does, black people,
white people, Latinos, especially in the southern regional in the
Midwestern that's what everybody fighting dogs.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
He didn't think it was a problem.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Then it got criminal when they started to become an enterprise, right,
and then he goes and goes to do prison for
two years no one else had done prison time for
animal crimes. He did prison time. Michael Vick was the
dude come out and everyone, every single group, whether it's PETA,
whether it's people in the community, whether it's the NFL,
everyone said, he has shown contrition. He has been the
(11:35):
perfect shining example of redemption. And Michael Vick now is
you know, back talking football and having a good point
and living his life and to end up being comeback
Player of the Year with the Eagles. Remember everybody outside
of the stadiums within one of them there pet Rose
didn't follow that. And so now that he's gone, there's
no way there's gonna turn around and all right, he's dead.
Let's put him in now. Because if he was that,
if he was that worthy, then you could have done
(11:57):
You did it, you do it before.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And baseball a few.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Number of years back, I don't know if you remember this,
they gave him a chance because he was banning, wasn't
supposed to take part in any kind of baseball Cincinnati,
remember for the All Star Game in Cincinnati, because they
were doing the Mount Rushmore the four greatest players of
every team, and they were like, we can't do this
in Cincinnati. If you don't put out having Pete Rose
(12:22):
a part of the Mount Rushmore of the Cincinnati read
the Big Red Machine, Baseball bowed and bent on that,
and then like I don't know, a couple of weeks later,
came out with the book that he did bet on baseball, right, Like.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It's just he kept not to go back to the
cheddar Bob example, but shooting himself with a foot and
it's like, man, he was supposed to own for the
next fifteen twenty years own it. He was a great player,
you know, But he was a great He was a
Hall of Fame player, absolutely, but they're just not gonna
put him.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
In, all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
You know, I have a vote. I'm telling you, even
if his name was on the ballot, which is not,
I wouldn't vote for him. But do you believe that
baseball are the writers or the Hall of Fame? Not
the writers because he's not on the ballot, but that
he belongs to the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That that's really do you do you believe?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And especially now since he's deceased, he's dead and he
doesn't get to.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Be a bit share enough.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Dan And he said he wanted that to be with
his family and grandkids and before he died, and that
was not the case.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
All Right, eight seven, seven ninety nine.
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Speaker 2 (14:35):
All Right, eight seven, seven ninety nine. On Fox, We're
talking about they want to talk to Pete Rose.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
He Rose, I told you. I knew that people wanted
to talk about this. This has been out there since
the ballot came out. So here we go. Let's start with, uh,
is that Scott in San Diego? You're in the EYD
couple of Fox Sports Diego.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
What's up? Scott?
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Super charges there?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Now go go.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
Yeah, we love the padres. I feel the stats alone
road should be in there. And then the Michael Big
example where there's dog fighting.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Whatever.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
If he says, oh, I'm sorry, I had people out
to my ranch and we did dog fighting. But I'm
sorry he's back. Rose is dead man. He paid in life.
He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. You
could get two hundred hits a year for twenty thinking years.
To get four thousand hits, no one's breaking that record.
That's my fag.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Okay, but no, I appreciate Scott. But Scott, we can
let him go. But he undersold what Michael Vick did.
It wasn't I had people at my houser. No, he
went on a dude was in prison for two years
and he went on a campaign of learning. And if
you talk to the Peter Folk. And I'm not saying
you you should have to have to have to, but
I'm saying, if you want to get in, you got
to play the.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Game, Mike.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And the other thing too, is you're messing with the
integrity of the game. That's why it's so much anti gambling.
That's why those NFL players with suspended NBA, NBA and
what was the guy's name, Ridley what Atlanta was suspect
like the year for like a year from the NFL, Like,
you cannot mess around with gambling.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
It's like the last hope you have me and you
talked about this before the greatest reality TV of sports.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You cannot. And when people don't believe what they're watching,
it becomes it becomes pro wrestling like that. That's what
they're trying to safeguard with the integrity of the game.
James in Nashville, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Thank you for the opportunity to be to speak my
defending on the subject. I just got in my car
from work when you guys were talking about this, and
one of you has said about him lying about it
for thirteen years fourteen, just like, yeah, it's just like
you know, Bill Clinton didn't get him peached because he
had central contact with Monica Lewinsky. He got him peached
(16:54):
because they lied to Kenneth Starr about it. With the
same thing with pe Broms came out and told the
truth like you all said, and apologized. But I agree
with whoever base whoever said, we never came up with
a narrative that he never really sincerely apologized. You hit
the net. Whichever woman you said that earlier, hit the
nail man.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
James James one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I've been coming baseball for thirty nine years, okay, And
Pete Rose, no Offens or Bucks Kelvin would be in
the Hall of Fame today if he apologized immediately and
said I made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I never meant to hurt baseball.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I'm going to Gambler's anonymous and I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
And he wanted a campaign and doing all the PSAs
and commercials. Hey, this is why gambling kids talking to
one hundred percent. We want to listen, we want to
forgive you, we want baseball doesn't want. It's all time
hit king in the Hall of Fame. Stop it, guys.
And it's just also the way his life. He just
had a he just had a unique life and they
(17:55):
just couldn't risk Is he gonna burn us again if
we let him?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Is he gonna do something else? He might not even
be gambling.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Really, he had some other issues of he mans big
time and will there be something else where we go?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Dagga, Pete, we gave.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You a shot, and look what you did. Mason in
the Bay Area. You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yo, Yo, what up? Crazy? Uh?
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Trash talk. But I'm a young I'm a young buck.
So I mean, I obviously.
Speaker 10 (18:25):
Didn't watch a play or anything like.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
That, but I'm just coming from this perspective. You know,
whether it was right or wrong, his story gonna be told, bro,
And uh, you know, uh, he can't look the other
way on this. And we got a lot of funny
stuff with some people in the Hall of Fame who
do some funny stuff. So I just think at the
end of the day, you know, put him in there.
(18:48):
You know, his story should be told.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
His story it's told.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
He's all in the Hall of Fame, all of his accomplishments, everything.
But did not like anything with Pete Roles want to
take it out. That's not what the Hall of Fame is.
Greg and Lancaster, you're on the table Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (19:06):
What's up hey, great show, Rob, glad to hear you, Thank.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You, YouTube, Government appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know.
Speaker 11 (19:13):
The way I look at it is and like you
just said, it's a valid argument. His stuff is in
the Hall of Fame. So they're basically saying, Hey, come
and see Pete Rose's stuff, but we're not putting them in.
What you guys, you're pimping them? Is that what you're
doing to get.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
His stuff out of there?
Speaker 11 (19:30):
If you don't want people paying money to go into
the Hall of Fame and this stuff, but his stuff
ain't in there. And and the other thing is that
he did that as a manager.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Let me let me stop this, Greg. Okay, Greg, here
we go. Here's how Pete Rose, and I've said this
to people before. Hear me out, Greg, how as a
manager you could also alter the game. Okay, I got
a big bet on a game that I'm trying to win.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I got a doublehead of Tomorrow, Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I blow out my bullpen trying to win the game
because I got money on it.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Have I affected Greg? The next day? Have I affected
baked the game at all.
Speaker 11 (20:13):
You blew your reliever's life.
Speaker 10 (20:15):
You're exactly right.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Okay, So now I don't have them for tomorrow because
if I was didn't have money on the game, I
would just let the game go. I might let the
second basement pitch. Do you see what I'm saying? So so, Greg,
you do affect the game.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Even with my guys, who are hey e skipper, I
don't really know if I play no no no no
no no, we need you. I'm just saying I can
play a little bit, but I'd rather just sit out
of there or two no no, get out there.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
We need you.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
This is not absolutely managers can affect the game, especially
we know how important the managers are when it comes
to managing the bullpen and just when you put the pitch,
who you put in.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Squeeze and who we got?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Chris Syracuse, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
What's up Chris?
Speaker 12 (21:00):
How you guys?
Speaker 13 (21:02):
I think he should be in Okay. I think gambling
like alcohol, is a disease, and I think people that
fall under that stell in many ways they're out of control.
But as a baseball player, you know I was never
a Reds Family Yankee fan, but I hate appreciate. I
saw a big red machine player.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
He was a great player, Chris. That ain't even the issue.
And let me ask you this real quick. Yeah, it
doesn't bother you that he would never acknowledge or at
least have a really you know, big contriste like you
know what I mean, apologize.
Speaker 13 (21:37):
Yes, here's my point about that many guys, different people
are built different. You look at a guy like Bobby Knight.
That guy would rip your head off and eve when
he had no contrition. He did a lot of crazy things.
Some people I had an arcle like this. He was
so intense and just some people are built differently. And
I realized he's not a controlled guy. He's not a
(21:59):
guy maybe hang out with. But I believe he's a
good He should be in the home.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Okay, all right, thank your opinion, Chris. I'm not mad
at that at all. Yep, all right, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Hey man, everybody, Yeah, you carry the conversation over to
social media. If we can't get your last call to
last call. We got that coming up in about fifteen
minutes or so.
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Speaker 2 (22:28):
Hey marm White, thank you, have a good night.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Hang on because we got Michael Stone Stony from ninety seven,
one of the ticket in Detroit, uh, the original, one
of the original Odd Couple co hosts, joining us here
on the Odd Couple. What's up, Stony?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
How are you doing? Is that Martin wife?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Do you know what? Pr and Kelvin washing? Didn't work?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
That?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
The fan tell you? I was hanging up.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I was hanging up posters for U wo Stony and
Woe Joe was hanging up posters and Key James.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I was in five and six.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, I was putting up all the bumper stickers and
hanging out with us allegian and not the whole crew
out there.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
A lot of fun. Kelvin, how you made it for
the big time?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Well you know my ass Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No ya.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I watched all y'all. I learned from y'all man back
in the day. So it's a full circle moment for you.
Speaker 11 (23:18):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I'm happy to be on with you.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And it was Stony and I started the Odd couple
in nineteen ninety four at the fan in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Y'all were definitely too because you are nuts and crazy
and loud and stony. What he's nutsing, crazy and loud
on the radio, but he's actually very chill my manner
off the mic, you're kind of crazy in both.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, Rob is just like an old Jewish man and
then a black man's.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Body that thousand percent agreed Calvin Martin.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Calvin, do you know any black guy that likes Seinfeld
and can't dance or play?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
I mean, come on, it's like you listen to this
like clearly you were the original because you know everything
we say about him up here, Alex.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's why you gave him the ding. That's the same
thing we say. What absolutely?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Ah right, Stony, you already all right, you're gonna wear
out your welcome again?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Is that what you're doing? All right?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Well, we have Stony on because it was years ago, Yeah,
twenty years ago, Stony. You know this, well, Malice at
the Palace, what Tony was there? Craziest things to ever
winn is?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You were there?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
So just start right there? What was that like? Something
we'd never seen on that level before?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
It was crazy? I mean I was, you know, they
were big rivals. Obviously, the Pistons won the title the
year before, beating them in the Eastern Conference finals with
a Friday night national televised game. It was a date
night in my house. I was there with my wife,
just hanging out very close to where the action took place.
And it's like, you know, first of all, if you
want to blame anybody, obviously our Test and Ben Wallace
(24:52):
and all that stuff, the fans. Yeah, but I think
I think some blame has to be on Rick Carlisle
and Larry Brown. What were the pacers were blowing the
Pistons out? What were Ben Wallace and our tests even
doing in the game at that time? Anyway, that's my rant.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
On that I hear you Uh, go ahead, Sony.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
So you know, you know, our test has the hard
foulon on Ben Wallace for no reason. Then Wallace shoves
them and then you know, they they get a little crazy,
and then our test sits on the scores table. Now
we couldn't I was sitting like about ten rows behind
the Pistons bench near the scorers table. You could like
couldn't see what was going on. And the next thing
you know, our test goes to the crowd and then
(25:32):
Stephen Jackson's going to the crowd. They're they're throwing punches
and people are going crazy, and Mason's yelling get off
the court, and Larry Brown and then Germaine O'Neill and
another fan on the other side, and I mean the
whole thing. You know, we go watch it on video
and you see the documentaries. The whole thing took like
six seven minutes I think, and it was just it
was nuts and it changed the sport, and to a
(25:55):
certain extent because they have now those you know, barriers
were because the tunnels that they put up, the ar
official tones and no idiots can throw the stuff on
players anymore. It was crazy, man. I mean, Jermaine O'Neil
could have.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
Killed that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, but that guy shouldn't have been down on a floor.
That was he put hisself in jeopardy because once you
come on the floor stony in.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Europe play crazy situation. All right, what is.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Jermaine O'Neil supposed to think that guy could come up
and do something to him?
Speaker 11 (26:21):
Right?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I totally agree with you, and not just the other one,
like I think it was Stephen Jackson when he went
into the stands and even when our test they had
the wrong guy.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
This John Green dude who throws this plastic cup and
they went after somebody else and the poor guy who
was like but must do he was getting the crap.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Kicked out of him and they threw a chair in
the stands and people. I was like, dude, that could
have a kid like like that was.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Wall That was Ben Wallace's brother.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
He was huge, threw the yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, that guy got crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Let me ask you this because this was the next
The next day, the big topic everywhere, whether it just
be with your own friends or radio was like like,
was Ron our test now Metal World piece wrong? And
what I find interesting is it's it's a fifty to
fifty because you just brought it up. He's already has
a reputation for being a fighter and heated. He and
Ban Wallace are getting into it. He actually tried to go,
(27:15):
let me go have a komba a moment and lay
down on this score table just to say I'm out
of it, I'm out of it, I'm out of it.
Then a fan who has nothing to do with this
throws a you know, a cup of beer whatever at him.
So where were you on that in a sense of hey,
the fan had it coming, or it's never worth going
in the stands, or hey, I can understand why he did.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Where were you well with the fans fault for throwing
a cup, but it was we want it was a bottle.
He drew a cup, a roun our test and I
don't think he got injured. He was startled. And look,
you know, as much as Rob is correct, as far
as the fan who ran onto the court, you should
never do that. Players should never run into the stands.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Never ever, ever, never ever never.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
And you know it's crazy. You saw you know, you
see the video like Mahorne who was doing the game,
you know the radio, he's up there, Rashid. They're trying
to get the fans either trying to be peacemakers.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
It was seeing Rashid as a peacemaker. No, that was
a moment and Stoney, you know, I didn't make it.
I had a speaking engagement that night, and I lived
downtown Detroit and I was driving on Jefferson about, you know,
to get on the freeway to head up to the Palace.
I get in the car the pistons are down by
fifteen and my apartment.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
It was a cold night. I remember my apartment was
on the left.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I came to the light where I either had to
turn left into my apartment or keep going to get
on the freeway. And I'm like, I'm not driving all
the way up there, because the palace is.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Thirty miles in case.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
There's thirty miles on the freeway, you know, to get
to the palace. And I'm like, it's already halftime. It
doesn't make sense for me to drive up there. And
I would have missed it anyway, because it happened as
soon as I got in the house.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Everything was crazy, it was, and.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Then you know, it was playfully so people you know,
John saw On believed the great John Saunders. They you know,
they started calling all the Detroit fans thuds and all that.
It was like, I never saw anything.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Like I want you to know that Stephen A was
a part of the panel that night or whatever, and
those guys were all going off and I did actually
talk to him, you know, like after they did their
first wave and then they came back and then they
started they realized that what they were saying was not
what they should have been saying.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Right, let me ask you that you brought up the gentleman. Well,
I don't say gentleman, but the guy who threw the drink.
He ended up admitting it was him and he had
issues in his life. I think he was coming off
a divorce. He was an alcoholic. And he said, of
all people you know who befriended him, Ron Artest, he's
become his friend and they they touch crazy story, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I know, and you know I know he got. I
don't remember if he got, like heget jail time or anything,
this John Green guy, but he was banned from all
events at the palace, Like if you really wanted to go,
he could have done a Bobby Valentine Disgui.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
So I don't know, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Last thing, Stony Kelvin is probably the biggest Lions homer
on the radio anywhere. So he has the Lions winning
the Super Bowl. We just need yet the Lions will
win the Super Bowl? Stony, Yes or no?
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Right now for the best team in football?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yes or no, Stony, I don't want no middle of
the row.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
What do they got, I'll say no. I thought they
go they'll go and lose, all right, but they're the best.
But they're the best team.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
No, he's just been he's been abused for too long. Abused.
That's a great line. No, no, it's not. Look at
you smileing. Come on, Stony, Rob is the biggest lion.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Fact he thinks just because you know what he thinks,
the ghost of Wayne Fons is going to show up.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Hey, Stony, I was right for thirty years though, Can
you admit that?
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Of course we all were. Okay, I gave up my
season tickets six years ago. I'm like killing myself now
because I could have made a lot of money there.
So they're crazy. Yeah, here's the other thing, Rob, But
even though I know you're a hater, you have to
make all my a lot of my friends from New
York's silly and all that. Whatever. Everybody I know they
(31:11):
love the love Lines or America's Team to watch. They're likable, Sony.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You guys like, oh god, I've been telling Stony, thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
I literally we literally did a segment where I said
they are America's team. You what you know, because in
the sixties the Cowboys and in the seventies, it's.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Just that people feel like the lines are so pathetic
that they want to have a heartwarming story. And when
the Lions lose Tony, like you said, they'll go same
old line. There'll be another situation watching and they'll be
like same old Liney. It was great shaded stony Mike
Stone from ninety seven won the ticket one of the
(31:50):
original odd Couple members uh back in nineteen kept.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Me excited, Rob rob me all right.
Speaker 11 (31:58):
Well.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Other good thing is I'm he's alive and well, lets
me know, me doing my time with you like a
prison sentence.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I'll be all right, thank you, Mike. We appreciate it, man, Martin.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
I imitated you the other day because I had to
do a Lions postgame show on a on a night
game and then I had to fill it at six
am in the morning. Wow, ile on the I slept
on the couch like you used to do.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Mark is a hard worker for sure. All right, thank
you man, I appreciate it. Hey, we got last call
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eighty seven seven
ninety nine on Fox. Will take that call? Hit us up?
Is Rob Parker, Kevin Washington. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
It is your boys, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington, The Odd Couple.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
On a show Man. This was a great show.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Can't say dockyd Alex put this one in the books,
Ryan put this put it over here. Great show. Thank
you all for being a part of it as well.
We truly mean that. Coming to you live from the
Time dot Com studio.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
What you got Alan, I just wanted to say, Rob,
it's good to know you're a fan of the people
and you love groups. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I'm just leaving that alone. I'm gonna leave that alone.
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Speaker 2 (33:27):
You know what time it is?
Speaker 11 (33:28):
Time?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Is it last Come?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Its last call? Last call time on the Odd Come.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
So I told you I can't listen, do you want
me to pass out? Alex on the just fall up?
You take your masser? No, I fell off for of you.
I'm not gonna lie my family.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Out what they put it in the back of the fridge.
So getting up in the morning to do the morning
so I forget. I'll be back though tomorrow. I'm gonna
text you.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Hi, Andy in Virginia, you're the last call on your couple.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
What's up?
Speaker 13 (34:08):
Uh?
Speaker 12 (34:09):
Hi, guys, I hope you're having a good night. Yes, sir,
I'm calling because I'm calling to complain about my Cowboys.
I've been a fan since the Emmitt Smith, Beyond Aikman
rocket Ishmael days. But Jerry Jones is getting.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
A pass because he's exactly like Al Davis, except just
because he's a good businessman, they get a pass on it.
He doesn't draft well, he doesn't build his team well.
He's not a good GM. He won't give up the power,
he won't get out of his own way. So that's
why I don't think Bill Belichick goes towards the Cowboys,
(34:45):
because he wants full control and Jerry Jones won't let
him have it.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
He shouldn't come out and is it my monkey.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
You know what, that's hard. I hear you.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
And Jerry just won't give up. It's just not gonna happen.
And thirty years, it's almost thirty years. If he hasn't
done it by now, there's no way you're gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Now, he's gonna be in the hospital and hospitals like,
all right, who we drafted?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
What are we doing? Who are we looking at a
running back? From where? I mean?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Did he look like a cowboy? We look good in
the start? I mean, yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
What about them gallboy?
Speaker 4 (35:21):
What about yeah? And hey, Andy brought up a great point.
Al Davis act was getting old towards the end. Just
the whole win, baby win when they wouldn't win nothing.
They're making bad a scions when they kept drafting terrible.
All they were draft is like a wide receiver because
he was fast. It just got bad. Like it's a
different And that's the thing. You have to be able
to adapt to the times, adapt to the because look,
(35:42):
all sports leagues.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Change, right.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
It was a running, running, running defense for years, then
it became a passing league. Now it's kind of a
running NBA was pounded slow wins sixty eight to seventy two,
you know, and Nan became three points like, you have
to be able to adapt and if you just stuck
in my way is the only way, this is the
way we have to do it, it doesn't work. And
you have to also hire to your weaknesses. You know
what Desiness owner exactly. And that's the biggest thing. You
(36:06):
can't do everything, and you got to hire people who
are experts and stuff. And that's what Jerry has refused
to do is he won't allow people other people who
no more than you.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
We get it. You own the team.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
That doesn't mean you know all the ins and outs
of the scouting and the football people. And then you
got a whole house or business full of family members
too who won't speak. They're not gonna tell their dad
what to do. So that's not what you want. You
don't want all yes men or a yes family around.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Wait, so are we talking about the cowboys or the presidency?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
The cowboy? Okay thoughts you were talking about? All right,
what's today?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
There's a worship Wednesday tomorrow, My goodness, gration man today
flew by it too, man, good show.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Appreciate all of you again.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Hit us up social media too, carry some of the
conversations over there as well.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
You got Jason Mike coming up. Enjoy.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
We'll be right back at it in less than twenty
four hours, folks, Fox Sports Radio,
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