June 14, 2024 • 42 mins
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker discuss Tom Brady claiming that these newer Quarterbacks are going backwards at the position.
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It is The Odd Couple. I'm Chris E's Rob.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
We're live from the tire Rack dot Com studios, our
number three of a three hour show on this funky
Flashback Friday and Rob. So far, so good for the
Dallas Mavericks. They're at twenty five sixteen late in the
first quarter, about two minutes left. Remember they were up,
(00:54):
you know, I don't know if it was double I
think it was might have been double figures in the
first quarter of Game three, so obviously plenty of time
left for the Celtics to come back and take control.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
But luka, doncis. Rob is hot.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
He's got thirteen points on five of eight shooting, Kyrie
chipping in with six still early five shooting.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh yeah, I mean, if they don't come out and
this is just I'm not saying, Chris, if you don't
come out and go crazy in the beginning to kind
of get the crowd and everything like, you know, fall
behind early, it's gonna be a long night to be
a blowout. Yeah, So that's why you gotta if nothing else,
if you don't come out with some fire trying to survive,
(01:39):
you're in trouble right right.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Rob tom Brady, who we know this year, is gonna
call games for Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He was doing the media tour recently and he spoke.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
With Yahoo Sports, and he was talking naturally about quarterbacking
and he says that it's it's not as good as
it used to be.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Here's a quote. He talked a lot about it.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I can't read everything, obviously, but he said, I think
the quarterback he has gone backwards a little bit in
the NFL. I don't think it's improved. I don't think
the teaching's improved. I think maybe the physical fundamentals might
be a little bit improved because there's better information out
there for quarterbacks to study on mechanics. But I don't
(02:25):
think quarterbacks really are really field generals right now like
they used to be. He said, there's you know coaches
have a lot of control. He even says that, I
think now there's this try to control element from the
sideline between the coaches where they want to have control
(02:45):
and they're not teaching and developing the players with the
right tools so that they can go out on the
field and make their own decisions that are best suited
for the team. When I looked at Peyton Manning, he
was a guy that I looked up to be because
he had ultimate control. And I think the games regressed
in a little bit of that way based on what's
(03:06):
happened in high school football, college football, and then the
NFL is getting a much lesser developed quarterback at this point. Interesting,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I mean, I'm kind of a mixed bag. I mean,
I think I do we have examples? What is he
Who was he talking about?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, it looks you know what I mean, Chris Like, Seriously,
I don't think he's talking about anybody in particular. I
think he's talking about just the general state of quarterbacking,
and obviously he would know. I we've talked about Rob
how it's easier for quarterbacks today. The rules are different.
(03:51):
They can't get hit like they used.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
To get hit.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Whether or not he'd want to play in this Rockets
football Chris, I mean, oh my god, he was brutalized
when he played against New York Football giants.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Brutalized.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
And the receivers can't get hit like they used to either,
particularly going across the middle.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right across the middle.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Chris, Oh, you knew if you did, you might get
decapitate Zac. So that we've talked about it, that's why
you look.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
At the numbers of the legends.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
We always say it. We kind of have to, you know,
put it out there, will hold up. It was a
different game back then. So when you see that this
Hall of Famer only completed fifty per passes or had
almost as many interceptions as touchdowns in his career, you know,
like you gotta understand it was a different game. And Rob,
(04:42):
I think Brady is a great example of how much.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Easier it is to play quarterback today.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Rob, because some of his his numbers in his forties
and obviously he was, you know, extraordinarily g in terms
of what right, but was he robbed and he had one, two, three, four,
five six years in his forties at forty three years old,
(05:14):
he threw forty touchdowns and twelve interceptions and forty six
hundred yards. At forty four, he threw fifty for fifty
three hundred yards, forty three touchdowns and twelve interceptions. That
was the year I thought he should have been MVP
when it went to Rogers. But Rob a guy in
his mid forties. And again we understand Brady took care
(05:36):
of himself and all that, Rob, but his numbers weren't
that great outside of like the year he had Randy Moss.
He wasn't putting up those types of numbers in his prime.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
No, because the game changed and he was protected. Yep,
he only had to do his stand back there if
if they touched Chris, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It was definitely and advantage one hundred percent. And it
doesn't mean that he couldn't play or he had to
still delivered the ball and do all that league and
stuff exactly, but it was.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
A difference that allowed him.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Had he been popped a few times early in his forties,
he wouldn't have been playing well.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
If it had been like say, early in his career,
I don't know that he would have been playing late
in to his forties. You know, like if you if
in his forties, you could still get hit the way
you could.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Earlier in his career.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Rob we know the year he had Randy Moster, the
big year he had mass he threw for fifty touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
That was his.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Career high, his second. His next two highest seasons as
far as total touch or passing touchdowns when he was
forty three or.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Forty four years old.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But I mean his career high in terms of yardage
was when he was forty four years old. Now he
threw it a ton that year, maybe threw over seven
hundred balls his last two years, but still that is
exhibit A to how it's easier for the quarterbacks, much
easier today.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Than it used to be. Well, I think there's no
infans of butts.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We've talked about how it's easier to score in the NBA,
it's easier to play quarterback. We could go on and
on and on about stuff. Chris, I think, uh, and
baseball is different from this.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
A few years ago they thought the ball, you know
it was, the ball might be juiced or whatever, a
little tighter, wound up a little tight.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But here's the difference to Chris, I think there was
a time when you know, you didn't dig in or
you didn't have to worry about getting you don't have
to worry about getting hit like or thrown at or
thrown close to right like they used to.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
They used to make you a little fraid.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You better not dig in there, You better you better
be ready to dance in that box. And we don't
see that that. They don't play that kind of baseball anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
No, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
As far as the other stuff he said, it is
hard to critique.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
There are coaches.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Kyle Shannahan rob that do kind of want to control
everything from the sidelines, right, and so Brock Purdy just
kind of has to paint by numbers. Now, you still
got to be good obviously to do that, but the
coach is kind of to some degree doing the thinking
for you. You have to have the instincts, you have
(08:26):
to make the decisions on the fly obviously on the field,
but the coach is kind of, you know, doing a
lot of thinking for you and obviously calling plays nowadays,
but you know, just you know where you're throwing the ball,
you know, if that guy's open, your first option and stuff.
So I think that could be fair be good if
(08:48):
the listeners out there, you know, any quarterback gurus or
experts that want to call in and talk about this
and maybe dig a little deeper on what Brady is saying.
But I don't know, right, I also thinking he brought
up the high school in college. I do think quarterbacks
are getting a lot more work though than they used to.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I mean seven and seven, right, and they got all the.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Football camps and the men quarterback camp and all these
other things where they're specialized in just in quarterbacks, you know,
so I.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Would think in a lot of ways they might be
more prepared.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I would think.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So they work on your footwork, Chris, all kinds of
stuff that I'm not so sure that that was you
just played, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
You just played?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah, I mean you see, guys, even when you watch
some high school games the top teams, you'll see the
quarterbacks kind of calling the game to some degree at
the line of scrimmags like you used to see Peyton
Manning do. That's trickled down to the lower levels now.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And you know, even.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
High school, the top high school quarterbacks are doing some
of that stuff. So I don't know, it's interesting. You know,
he won't rob he there's no way he won't be
able to be that pessimistic calling the games, if indeed
that's how he feels about it. You know what I'm saying,
(10:10):
It's gonna be interesting to see because I Tom Brady
was a wet blanket as a player or a quote,
and it'll be interesting Chris to see if he works
into this role, if he has something to say, you
know what I mean, Like, I'm really curious he's.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You know, he's going through their training hard and.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Nobody's saying, you got to real people, but you gotta
get be insightful. You gotta be able to point out
some stuff. You don't need to be Tony Romo. I
don't want that.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, remember Romo took took the booth by storm. But
but now people kind of it feels like it's gotten
a little stale, right, people not as high on him
as they used it.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And what happens to Chris is you keep doing that
and then at first, okay, he would like he would
had the playbook at first, and then he's started they
weren't going his way, you know what I mean, And
you don't sounded smart. I'll still remember who was a
quarterback that came in for Patrick Mahomes Chris in that
playoff game. Chad Henny. Henny, Chad Henny, I'm sorry from Michigan,
(11:13):
and I remember that. You remember that was a big play.
They want in their own territory, the balls in their
own territory, and I remember watching and and seeing, uh,
you know, Tony Romos, there's no way, you know, there's
no way that they're going to throw this ball here,
(11:35):
you know what I mean, Like, no way, Like it's
just that that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That's what they're gonna do it. Blah blah blah. And
guess what they did? They do what he got the
first down?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know, they like they just set the line, just
trying to draw them off or just trying to and
it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
It'll be interesting, I will be interesting how good he is.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Obviously your home, he's really good.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
And they, like I said, they're going through the training
and you know, he's getting himself ready because I'll say
this and I don't know that this is gonna this
could even be the case with him because of the
training and stuff. But Rob, there were athletes. I bet
you feel the same way. There were guys that when
they played, they were articulate, they were handsome, popular, and
(12:27):
you thought.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh man, he's gonna be great on TV.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And they just were too soft spoken or didn't have
enough energy, and you know, it didn't have that it factor.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I don't know that anybody would have predicted Barkley. Now
we know he had the great personality and stuff, but
I don't think anybody would have predicted he would have
become what he did.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And in order to do that too, he lost some
friends along the way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
He had to well, like Perks, you know some people.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, but that's if you really want to do the
job right, Chris, you're gonna have some of that because
because if you're flinching on everything and every and everything
hinges on you being cool with somebody or saying something,
it's gonna be a long day at the office, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
What I mean.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
It's not for him, not that I don't have to
rip everybody, but if you can't give it a roll, yeah,
if you can't give an honest opinion, you know what
I mean, Because you're afraid someone's gonna say something the
next time you see him.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It just it puts you on a tough spot. You
gotta be you gotta keep it real.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
But like I said, he's not It's not like he's
gonna be debating, you know, and anything like that.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
But no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Still, you know you're gonna have to call it like
you see it, all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine
on a Fox Do you think quarterbacking in the NFL
has taken a step backward? Any quarterback gurus out there,
give us a call, let us know what you think
and why.
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Speaker 4 (15:20):
All right, it's the Eye Couple Chris and Ribe Dallas
Mavericks Up fourteen thirty nine, five eight and a half
minutes to go in the second quarter eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox, You'll turn the way in. Has
quarterbacking gone south in the NFL? As Tom Brady says it,
(15:42):
all right.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Chris, let's kick it off with TZ in the Natti Cincinnati.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports radio place.
I'll be visiting soon.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
What's up, partner, Christmas.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
Sorry, I appreciate that having me yell, thanks, buddy, You're.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
The funniest guy on sports radio.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Listening to you. Gots some day one.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
I know the po the pool Pool King Drug. Hey,
I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Thank you. I think
you're talking about me right now. It's all good, No,
thank you, but no.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
I feel like quarterback has definitely changed, right. I agree
with Brady because just think about how the games come.
It's more now about the mobile quarterback. You know, remember
when Tom Brady first came in, right, it was more
about the pocket quarterback. Now it's more about the mobile quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
And I feel like, yeah, they're.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Throwing a lot.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
They're not like as precise as they was, you know
when he first came in. I think that's what he's
talking about. You know, it's more about mobile quarterbacks now
than it is about pocket quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, you need to be mobile now because of the
speed of the game, like the line defensive ends the linebacks,
they live faster than.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
They used to be.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
I know, and I agree, but I'm kind and thinking
that's what he's talking about, because I was listening to
you guys in the first second.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
So thanks, yep, thanks, jas appreciate it. What about coach
owing the Natty You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio,
what's up?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Coach O?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 10 (17:15):
Robe?
Speaker 8 (17:15):
And Chris Man?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
How are you are you?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And I I'm I'm I'm I'm.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Doing all right right now. I just wanted to say
that I think it's more about the wide receivers that's
playing nowadays more than it is the quarterbacks. I feel
like back then when you had the Manning's and all
of those who had great wide receivers back then too,
but those quarterbacks had to be.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
More on point.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
I feel like now the ride receiver talent is so
crazy that the quarterbacks don't. They don't really have to
be as as accurate and and and read the defenses
as much as more like, get the bob to the
talent and get it in their hands and let them
go to work.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And and there are rules to protect those guys, right,
which makes it easier.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
And the gloves are great too. Never used to see
one handy catch. Those sticky gloves won.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Every every few games. Yes, and that's great. They're still
great receivers.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Don't get me wrong, But ROB think we never saw
one handy catch.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm telling you what. I didn't even know about those
gloves and what was going on.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I would.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I remember watching the Odell Beckham junior cat and I thought,
that's the greatest.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Catch I ever saw. That's what I said. It was
a great cat. Do you know what I mean? It was?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I didn't know the gloves with that stick right, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Remember the throat.
Speaker 8 (18:35):
Nobody remembers that throat.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Everybody remembers the cat, right, Yep, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Let's squeeze another one in Chris, Chili Tim in Atlanta.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports rating. If anybody
else wants to jump in eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox, how were you, Chili Tim?
Speaker 10 (18:54):
I'm doing I'm chilling Man, how you guys are doing.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
It's hot here?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Is it really?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm Birmingham, Alabama and they told me, they said, Chris,
they said it's smoking down there.
Speaker 11 (19:06):
That's what.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I think.
Speaker 12 (19:12):
It's two reasons. I think it did take a step back.
Uh the previous college said right, receivers, but I would
go in a different directions. My first thing is that
I don't think the quarterbacks has to be as accurate
now because of.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
The rules of the game.
Speaker 10 (19:28):
Uh, the receivers, you know, the defensive backs can barely
touch them, so they're.
Speaker 12 (19:32):
So wide open. You don't have to be the greatest.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
And most you know throughout the pats of the.
Speaker 11 (19:38):
Football like they used to be, because you know the rules.
Speaker 12 (19:41):
They can't touch the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
They can't touch the receivers.
Speaker 11 (19:44):
And you know, they have all day to throw the ball,
whereas you know, back in the days of LT and
Ronnie those guys, I mean you had to he had
to be on the money or they were out there throwing.
You know, I used to call ambulance balls because you
know guys are going to uh catching, you know, right right.
And then the second thing I think is is that, uh,
(20:05):
you know, because of that like you guys like the
New York Giants quarterback and guys like that, they're getting
paid now. I mean they don't deserve it, but just
because they are the quarterbacks, they're getting these big paydays
and they're, you know, getting the shine, and I think
they're not earning it. So I think the rule changes.
Speaker 10 (20:22):
And then the mentality of where, you know, everybody's the
next man up, mentality, whether I deserve it or not,
I'm gonna get paid. So you know, these guys don't
really have to go out there and earn the contract anymore.
Just because you're the quarterback on the.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Team, you know you're gonna get paid.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
You're gonna get paid.
Speaker 10 (20:40):
So I think those are the two things that have
kind of made it go back a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You guys, have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Man, you too, Man, you too, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
All Right, it's the Eye couple, Chris and Rob. We
got Klay Harbery's before me. NFL tight end now in
NFL Analysts coming up and we'll talk to him in
a few minutes before Steve de Seger with the UPDA.
Speaker 13 (21:02):
See, guys, you mentioned the Celtics seven to zero on
the road. This post up the Lakers about twenty years
ago had an eight and zero road record for a postseason.
Celtics are down twenty at Dallas right now, six and
a half minutes to go second period, Mavericks forty five
to twenty five in the lead. Dallas shooting fifty five
percent from the floor, led by Luka Doncich who has
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eighteen points. Boston from three point range three for fourteen.
Jason Tatum their first half leading scorer so far eleven points.
Celtics leading the NBA Finals three games to none. If
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Yankees at the end of five are up five to
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tied with the Phillies two to two. Cleveland Guardians are
winning again three to one at Toronto. In the bottom
of the ninth Net's had a rain delay at the start.
They are only top of the fifth inning. Mets lead
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to one over the Padres.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
End of seven.
Speaker 13 (22:55):
Brave seven to two over the Raves, but Atlanta outfielder
Michael Harris left early with hamstring tightness. Houston is scoreless
with Detroit in the sixth. Detroit starting pitcher Trek Scooble
is eight and one. Houston cut first baseman jose Abray.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You today, how much do they owe Steve? Like thirty
million dollars? Thirty million? Thirty million dollars they cut Aubray.
Speaker 13 (23:16):
You We're about halfway through a three year deal. It's
a former Rookie of the Year. When he came to
this countrymer MVP and it was a great playoff with
the Waiesaw past tense. He was betting one twenty four.
This year they sent em to the miners.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
What's eat thirty million dollars, Chris, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Well look at the Broncos. Yeah, I got rid of
Russ Ye crazy.
Speaker 13 (23:36):
Yeah, consider what they paid Russell Wilson amount of games
he actually played for them. We're under six and a
half minutes to go in Dallas second quarter. Man, it's
forty five twenty five over Boston Beck team.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It comes a big run.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Alright, Steve, have a have a good weeknd Steve, yep.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
All right.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
It's the Eye Couple live from the tire rack dot
Com studios.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Our next guest, former.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
NFL tight end now in NFL analyst.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
We welcome in Clay Harbor, Clay. How are you?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm good, Chris? How you fens doing it?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
How you you're great?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's good man. The lot going on out here in
Chicago obviously with the Bears, and then we just saw
my old chee Dad Gires. I mean you guys hear that. Yeah,
you're backing up the brink truck for Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Well, do you think that was the right move. I mean,
he hasn't exactly lit the legal on fire.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
That was the right move, Chritis. I mean you can
basically put chass to show you anything in this league.
And here's the deal. Trevor is getting the last year
of this deal. Then he's getting in the fifth year option.
Then the five year contract kicks in. Right, So if
you look at the real money over the seven years,
(24:52):
I'll keeping them there through twenty thirty one. If you
look at the real money at the Sea, it's down
at like forty five million here. Obviously, if you look
at the five year extension, that puts in the fifty
five million. By the time three years come around and
you're getting that money, it's gonna be right where he
should be. And he's your number one quarterback. He was
your first round draft pick. So it's not like he's
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getting paid more than Joe Burrow right now, he's getting
paid forty five a year. He's still on this contract
for another year and then he's getting that fifth year
option and then he gets the money even though he
did get like eighty one signing, but the contract is
still pay that much. Shift.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I think you were a not in the Caleb Williams
camp of the Bears drafting him.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Where have you changed your mind?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, man, I'll come around. I was just thinking what
you could do with all those picks, and not like
I didn't like Caleb, but when you could trade that
pick and you still had Justin Fields, I thought you
could do so much to turn around that roster. So
now that we got him, we're able to make the
keenan More deal for a fourth round hit. You get
keen in More, then you draft Romo's Don't Day, and
(26:05):
you got Campbell Williams. So now I'm thinking the Bears
have a legit offense for the first time to come
that we can say, obviously something might happen, some craze
is gonna happen. The Chicago and offense just don't go together.
But right now it looks like the Bears is gonna
have a legit offense. There's no weakness out there. But
the problem right now is that Dean line Comati then
coming in to play the Bear. I'm chipping monta sweat
(26:27):
all game. We're double team in Manta sweat. Nobody else
is going to come close to the quarterback, So you
might need to try to find a metal guy to
stow the market to really complete that defensive line. But overall,
I think that the Bears actually have a chance if
kalb plays okay to win the NFC North. I'm not
sold on Green Bay. I'm not completely sold on Detroit.
(26:48):
The Bear should have beat him twice last year. They
did him once. They had a ninety five percent chance
to win in the score.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, that was a terrible lass. That was terrible.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yes, the Yeah, there's some people that I think the
Bears can reach the super Bowl next year. Obviously, like
you said, Caleb needs to play well. Where do you
think about them being a super Bowl contender? And look,
I think Caleb's going to be great eventually, but I
do think he'll have at least some growing pains as
a rookie.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
What do you expect from him and the team next year?
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I mean this, it's going to be some problems, especially
when you're a rookie coming in the league. I don't
think some super Bowl contenders, but I think you're competing
for this division. If he plays okay, you got to
realize the lesson he's got around him, Like Justin Fields
has to be looking at this offense and be like,
where was this for me? I mean, you've got three
(27:40):
really good receivers. People already saying Homelands looks like th
real deal. We know DJ Moore and Keith and Allen
could do. Coach comment and General Everett, both those guys
are top twenty tight ends. And he looks the running
back jably so to the charge he catch the ball
to protect. So just because what he's got around him,
I think he's going to be good. And we know
the talent, the creativity at all the time. So I
(28:04):
think it's possible. I don't think it's a super Bowl possibility.
And let's throw one touchdown before we talk about the
super Bowl night.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, I heard in the division you were kind of
bad mouthing everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Why do you feel that way?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Why are you not in Why don't you not believe
in Green Bay? Why do you not believe in Detroit?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
What?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
What do you see with those two teams that that
give you pause or make you question them?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
I like Detroit. I used to play for the Lions
as well. Dan Campbell coach when I was with the Shanks.
I love Dan Campbell. I mean, this guy would have
you ready to run through a wall going on.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Unfortunately cost him a trip to the super Bowl. But
that's another story.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I know half of our time in the league, in
our meeting or we'd be just friend to Dan tell stories.
We have to go over play, you know, back in
my day, you know, we used to go out there
and we would play inside real for Penmant. You know,
Dan's a hungbelievable guy, and I think he got a
good team. But look at what the Bears were able
(29:05):
to do last year. Watching those games in person, and
you see in that the Bear should have won both
those games. I liked him, but I just don't think
Jardoff is a difference maker. Obviously he was able to
be a plan from the Super Bowl last year, but
you got to show me that again, Jordan Love I
just need to see him be that guy he was
(29:27):
the second half of the season again before I really
believe I just don't believe they can they can hit
on a quarterback like this. Again, I'm basically hoping there.
But the way he started the season for finishing the
season was two different two different people. I mean, I
want to see that consistency had at the end of
the year again, and then I'll say, hey, they found
another one.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
So you mentioned, you know, Justin Fields and you thought
they should have kept him. How do you think things
are going to play out as far as a quarterback
in Pittsburgh, Russ.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
He's not even at quarterback. They got too many guys here. Well, yeah,
how you I think that's going to play out.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Here's what I honestly, here's my thoughts. I think they
start out and uh and tough division obviously, and I
don't think they start out well. I think by the
end of the year that you're playing Justin Fields just
because could Justin Fields be the future quarterback in Pittsburgh? Yes? Could?
Russell Wilson's no man. Russe Russ is getting old man,
(30:23):
and I like Russell. You know, I knew him back
in the league. I got to play against him several times,
a guy that every knows he works hard, he's diligent.
But Justin could be the future. And what you could
do with the run game in that offense. Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh,
those guys played Ohio. Steve knows how to play outside.
You can have a smash mouth run game with Justin. Fields,
(30:47):
the zone read, the read option, all that stuff. And
then obviously he can still throw the ball. Has a
great d ball, you know, a PFF brings him top
five and in deep ball last year. Obviously he's got
to work on intermediate stuff in the short stuff too.
But I think the ceiling is too high for fields
that if they don't start out on top of the
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division or at least in the thicket things, they're going
to go to the fields to see what they got.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, I think that's probably right. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It was weird that they would bring in both of
those guys, and I just wonder that the idea that
feels everybody was saying, well, just give him a team
or whatever, and he would have these opportunities. Nobody else
really wanted them. How surprised were you just on where
they were and like that there wasn't more demand on him.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, I was. I was pretty shocked. In Chicago. We
saw what he was capable of, and I think we
probably overlooked a few things too, because Chicago wants a
quarterback so bad. I mean, this city is the only
team in the in the country, in the world in
football that hasn't had a quarterback throw thirty touchdown packs
and today's they were thousand yards three thousand yards.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
What do we always say, hey, what do we always
say that the Bears haven't had a quarterback since Sid?
Speaker 13 (32:04):
Sid?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Luckman in.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Chicago loves football, Like, come on, man, I mean we
wanted it so bad that we overlooked some day for Justin.
Obviously he was in the quarterback that was picking people
apart what I saw in him, because I knew there
were some things. But if you were able to manipulate
an offense, a specific offense, for this guy, his running
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ability is passing ability. He wasn't the drop back you
know robotic, you know left right, three step drop, five
step drop, seven step drop. He was going to take
longer to throw the ball. But this guy could score
from anywhere on the field with his legs. So if
he could tailor him offense to that and then get
him comfortable enough with the pass game. I mean, there'sre's
so many things you could do with the guy, and
(32:50):
that's what I saw. It would take some creativity, it
would take a little bit of time and something different,
and you have to have a scheme to fit them.
But I saw the possible abilities with him, but they
tried to fit him into a scheme instead of fitting
a scheme into him.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Last thing before you go, Clay Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
There's been a lot of talk now after Trevor Lawrence signs,
you think the Cowboys should pay him now, I mean,
it'll be tough for him to sign him Mike a
ASCD at all that huge money.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Well, I mean if they unless they think Trey Lance
is sitting back. I don't know what Jerry's masters planning.
I mean me, it seems like.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
He's saying Dak better better play well this year, lead
him deep into the playoffs. Or he might try to
go to forty nine ers route with a low priced quarterback,
ally Trey Lance, and you know, put a bunch of
pieces around him.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I mean, that's one way to do it. But I mean,
if you look, in this league, you need a proven quarterback.
I mean he finally in the draft. He's gonna try
a journeyman. I think Dak is one of the most
accurate quarterbacks in the NFL the way obviously he's got
to get better in the playoffs. We all know when
it comes to playoff times. You see the meme. You know,
Dak Prescott in the playoffs. You know Luka Doncis in
(34:08):
the finals. That's on right now, you know. So, I
think you need a quarterback and to let Dak walk
for nothing is malpractice. They should have got this deal
done a year ago, two years ago. The longer you wait,
the price is going to go.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Up right, all right and go down Ye play Harbor
for REDFL Titan.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
It was great stuff, man, Thank.
Speaker 12 (34:32):
You appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Guys, Thank you Rob.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
The w NBA is losing big bucks despite Caitlin Clark's presence.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
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Rob's story came out this week about the WNBA and
obviously they are. You know, ratings are up, the tendance
(35:47):
is up, the league's popularity is high as it's ever been,
probably higher. But according to the Washington Post, Rob, they
are still expected to lose fifty million.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Dollars this season.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
And you remember, back in twenty eighteen, the NBA's commissioner,
Adam Silver said the WNBA lost an average of ten
million dollars a year since it began, and that the
NBA has basically been carrying it and if it wasn't
for the NBA, if it wasn't for the NBA, there
(36:26):
would be no WNBA and Rob, this is just and
it's not like we're glad this is the case. We
hope the WNBA keeps growing to the point where it
can be self sufficient. But when people throw out all
the players only making ninety thousand dollars or whatever it
(36:47):
might be, and the NBA players make so much money,
this is you know, discrimination, And no, it's just business.
It's based on how much money your league brings in
and they're just not bringing in money, so you can't
compare their salaries to the NBA players.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's a supplying demand. Chris, this is real simple.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I've talked about it over and over if you And
here's the other thing too, like, yeah, the attendance is
up and all that for her games.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
For her, I think they're up a little more in general,
but yeah, but her, it's right.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I said this before the season started. She's the hall
them Globe shotters, Chris went. When they show when she
shows up, they're gonna pack the house. People gonna watch
the games. And it's no knock on anything else. But
it's not like they're packing out the place. Now.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Everybody's in the women's basketball no matter.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Well, here's playing, right, Caitlyn Clark's games home and road
averaged fifteen.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Thousand and forty two fans.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Every all the other teams in the league their games
averaged seven thousand, right, six hundred and forty five.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Fit it's basically double.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Right and could her and and that's not a big
difference from what it was a year ago. Like for
the wnbair average attendance, they've only they've only averaged six
or seven thousand, that's what it was. She has no
doubt the draw. Yeah, but they need other teams to
do better as well. And it has been a case
I was told a long time ago, remember the Detroit Shock.
(38:24):
They had won some championship and all that. Laber Beer
was the head coach and all that. But I was
told they couldn't sell any tickets. Couldn't They couldn't sell
any tickets, Chris. And you know, the championship people wanted
to be around a winner, and they showed up for that,
but they weren't showing up for the games and they
you know, it just wasn't happening. And uh, it's been
(38:44):
a struggle for a long time this league. It's been
around almost thirty years, Chris. Now it's not brand new right, right.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, And let me ask you this, and this is
kind of tongue in cheek, but I'll be interested to
see what you say.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
It's some people have thrown out the idea.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
That if they lowered the rims to maybe nine feet
so they could dunk, uh, it would be batter it
would draw more ratings.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It would appeal to guys because the game is played
below the rim, and they would want to see it
played above the rim, Chris. So, I do think that
it would have more appeal from that standpoint, And we
talked about all the time. The reason that people and guys,
especially guys got into Caitlin Clark was because of the
(39:35):
three from the from the distance that that was the
one Chris.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
We hadn't seen that, No, right, we hadn't seen that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
What.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, as far as the nine for I mean, it
sounds obviously gimmicky. It is gimmicky.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
I wouldn't I don't think i'd want to see it.
That's a huge adjustment.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You don't want to do it.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
They used to shooting and you were cheap in the game. Yeah,
it really would. It would kind of a give you.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Don't want to do that, you got to be careful
with some standards and you know, and doing stuff right
because then because then you lose all that has been
done and everything doesn't feel the same.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
It's just it's a bad It would be really odd,
And I don't I mean, it's not like they everybody
be dunking all of a sudden, And even if they are,
is it gonna change the you know, the.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Attendance and the viewership that much.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
After a while, people probably get you know, tune it out,
you know, kind of or get used to it or whatever.
So yeah, I don't think that's a good idea. I
think they keep it like it is. But you know,
they need Caitlin to become a star. I mean, she's
played well. I think she's had She's clearly gonna be
the Rookie of the Year if this continues. But they
need her to really be a superstar. And I don't
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even know if that will see how much that helps
rop because like I said, they're still on pace to
lose fifty million.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Dollars, right and because now all of a sudden they
got the charters and all that, you know what I mean,
And that costs money, and the attendance still, you know,
is it where you need it to be?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's gonna take a while. And they gotta see too,
Chris does she does she play out at all? Like
if after people have seen her, next year they showing
up again, you know what I mean? Like there's another no,
that's you know, like everybody saw it. She came to
town three times. I saw her play okay, and now
am I going again next year?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Naw, that's that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
And also that article in the Washington Post did also
say that they you know, they're gonna get a nice
little lucrative, you know, relatively speaking, TV deal. It'll be
it'll be affiliated with the NBA's deal, but it will
be a better TV deal so that that should help
the salaries and things like that.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
All right, it is the odd couple signing off. We
with all of you five fathers.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
They weekend and enjoy yourselves, Rob have a great weekend,
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We're live from the tire Rack dot Com studios, our
number three of a three hour show on this funky
Flashback Friday and Rob. So far, so good for the
Dallas Mavericks. They're at twenty five sixteen late in the
first quarter, about two minutes left. Remember they were up,
(00:54):
you know, I don't know if it was double I
think it was might have been double figures in the
first quarter of Game three, so obviously plenty of time
left for the Celtics to come back and take control.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
But luka, doncis. Rob is hot.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
He's got thirteen points on five of eight shooting, Kyrie
chipping in with six still early five shooting.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh yeah, I mean, if they don't come out and
this is just I'm not saying, Chris, if you don't
come out and go crazy in the beginning to kind
of get the crowd and everything like, you know, fall
behind early, it's gonna be a long night to be
a blowout. Yeah, So that's why you gotta if nothing else,
if you don't come out with some fire trying to survive,
(01:39):
you're in trouble right right.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Rob tom Brady, who we know this year, is gonna
call games for Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He was doing the media tour recently and he spoke.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
With Yahoo Sports, and he was talking naturally about quarterbacking
and he says that it's it's not as good as
it used to be.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Here's a quote. He talked a lot about it.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I can't read everything, obviously, but he said, I think
the quarterback he has gone backwards a little bit in
the NFL. I don't think it's improved. I don't think
the teaching's improved. I think maybe the physical fundamentals might
be a little bit improved because there's better information out
there for quarterbacks to study on mechanics. But I don't
(02:25):
think quarterbacks really are really field generals right now like
they used to be. He said, there's you know coaches
have a lot of control. He even says that, I
think now there's this try to control element from the
sideline between the coaches where they want to have control
(02:45):
and they're not teaching and developing the players with the
right tools so that they can go out on the
field and make their own decisions that are best suited
for the team. When I looked at Peyton Manning, he
was a guy that I looked up to be because
he had ultimate control. And I think the games regressed
in a little bit of that way based on what's
(03:06):
happened in high school football, college football, and then the
NFL is getting a much lesser developed quarterback at this point. Interesting,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I mean, I'm kind of a mixed bag. I mean,
I think I do we have examples? What is he
Who was he talking about?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, it looks you know what I mean, Chris Like, Seriously,
I don't think he's talking about anybody in particular. I
think he's talking about just the general state of quarterbacking,
and obviously he would know. I we've talked about Rob
how it's easier for quarterbacks today. The rules are different.
(03:51):
They can't get hit like they used.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
To get hit.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Whether or not he'd want to play in this Rockets
football Chris, I mean, oh my god, he was brutalized
when he played against New York Football giants.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Brutalized.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
And the receivers can't get hit like they used to either,
particularly going across the middle.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right across the middle.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Chris, Oh, you knew if you did, you might get
decapitate Zac. So that we've talked about it, that's why
you look.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
At the numbers of the legends.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
We always say it. We kind of have to, you know,
put it out there, will hold up. It was a
different game back then. So when you see that this
Hall of Famer only completed fifty per passes or had
almost as many interceptions as touchdowns in his career, you know,
like you gotta understand it was a different game. And Rob,
(04:42):
I think Brady is a great example of how much.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Easier it is to play quarterback today.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Rob, because some of his his numbers in his forties
and obviously he was, you know, extraordinarily g in terms
of what right, but was he robbed and he had one, two, three, four,
five six years in his forties at forty three years old,
(05:14):
he threw forty touchdowns and twelve interceptions and forty six
hundred yards. At forty four, he threw fifty for fifty
three hundred yards, forty three touchdowns and twelve interceptions. That
was the year I thought he should have been MVP
when it went to Rogers. But Rob a guy in
his mid forties. And again we understand Brady took care
(05:36):
of himself and all that, Rob, but his numbers weren't
that great outside of like the year he had Randy Moss.
He wasn't putting up those types of numbers in his prime.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
No, because the game changed and he was protected. Yep,
he only had to do his stand back there if
if they touched Chris, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It was definitely and advantage one hundred percent. And it
doesn't mean that he couldn't play or he had to
still delivered the ball and do all that league and
stuff exactly, but it was.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
A difference that allowed him.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Had he been popped a few times early in his forties,
he wouldn't have been playing well.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
If it had been like say, early in his career,
I don't know that he would have been playing late
in to his forties. You know, like if you if
in his forties, you could still get hit the way
you could.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Earlier in his career.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Rob we know the year he had Randy Moster, the
big year he had mass he threw for fifty touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
That was his.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Career high, his second. His next two highest seasons as
far as total touch or passing touchdowns when he was
forty three or.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Forty four years old.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But I mean his career high in terms of yardage
was when he was forty four years old. Now he
threw it a ton that year, maybe threw over seven
hundred balls his last two years, but still that is
exhibit A to how it's easier for the quarterbacks, much
easier today.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Than it used to be. Well, I think there's no
infans of butts.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We've talked about how it's easier to score in the NBA,
it's easier to play quarterback. We could go on and
on and on about stuff. Chris, I think, uh, and
baseball is different from this.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
A few years ago they thought the ball, you know
it was, the ball might be juiced or whatever, a
little tighter, wound up a little tight.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But here's the difference to Chris, I think there was
a time when you know, you didn't dig in or
you didn't have to worry about getting you don't have
to worry about getting hit like or thrown at or
thrown close to right like they used to.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
They used to make you a little fraid.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You better not dig in there, You better you better
be ready to dance in that box. And we don't
see that that. They don't play that kind of baseball anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
No, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
As far as the other stuff he said, it is
hard to critique.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
There are coaches.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Kyle Shannahan rob that do kind of want to control
everything from the sidelines, right, and so Brock Purdy just
kind of has to paint by numbers. Now, you still
got to be good obviously to do that, but the
coach is kind of to some degree doing the thinking
for you. You have to have the instincts, you have
(08:26):
to make the decisions on the fly obviously on the field,
but the coach is kind of, you know, doing a
lot of thinking for you and obviously calling plays nowadays,
but you know, just you know where you're throwing the ball,
you know, if that guy's open, your first option and stuff.
So I think that could be fair be good if
(08:48):
the listeners out there, you know, any quarterback gurus or
experts that want to call in and talk about this
and maybe dig a little deeper on what Brady is saying.
But I don't know, right, I also thinking he brought
up the high school in college. I do think quarterbacks
are getting a lot more work though than they used to.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I mean seven and seven, right, and they got all the.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Football camps and the men quarterback camp and all these
other things where they're specialized in just in quarterbacks, you know,
so I.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Would think in a lot of ways they might be
more prepared.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I would think.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So they work on your footwork, Chris, all kinds of
stuff that I'm not so sure that that was you
just played, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
You just played?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah, I mean you see, guys, even when you watch
some high school games the top teams, you'll see the
quarterbacks kind of calling the game to some degree at
the line of scrimmags like you used to see Peyton
Manning do. That's trickled down to the lower levels now.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And you know, even.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
High school, the top high school quarterbacks are doing some
of that stuff. So I don't know, it's interesting. You know,
he won't rob he there's no way he won't be
able to be that pessimistic calling the games, if indeed
that's how he feels about it. You know what I'm saying,
(10:10):
It's gonna be interesting to see because I Tom Brady
was a wet blanket as a player or a quote,
and it'll be interesting Chris to see if he works
into this role, if he has something to say, you
know what I mean, Like, I'm really curious he's.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You know, he's going through their training hard and.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Nobody's saying, you got to real people, but you gotta
get be insightful. You gotta be able to point out
some stuff. You don't need to be Tony Romo. I
don't want that.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, remember Romo took took the booth by storm. But
but now people kind of it feels like it's gotten
a little stale, right, people not as high on him
as they used it.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And what happens to Chris is you keep doing that
and then at first, okay, he would like he would
had the playbook at first, and then he's started they
weren't going his way, you know what I mean, And
you don't sounded smart. I'll still remember who was a
quarterback that came in for Patrick Mahomes Chris in that
playoff game. Chad Henny. Henny, Chad Henny, I'm sorry from Michigan,
(11:13):
and I remember that. You remember that was a big play.
They want in their own territory, the balls in their
own territory, and I remember watching and and seeing, uh,
you know, Tony Romos, there's no way, you know, there's
no way that they're going to throw this ball here,
(11:35):
you know what I mean, Like, no way, Like it's
just that that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That's what they're gonna do it. Blah blah blah. And
guess what they did? They do what he got the
first down?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know, they like they just set the line, just
trying to draw them off or just trying to and
it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
It'll be interesting, I will be interesting how good he is.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Obviously your home, he's really good.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
And they, like I said, they're going through the training
and you know, he's getting himself ready because I'll say
this and I don't know that this is gonna this
could even be the case with him because of the
training and stuff. But Rob, there were athletes. I bet
you feel the same way. There were guys that when
they played, they were articulate, they were handsome, popular, and
(12:27):
you thought.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh man, he's gonna be great on TV.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And they just were too soft spoken or didn't have
enough energy, and you know, it didn't have that it factor.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I don't know that anybody would have predicted Barkley. Now
we know he had the great personality and stuff, but
I don't think anybody would have predicted he would have
become what he did.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And in order to do that too, he lost some
friends along the way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
He had to well, like Perks, you know some people.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, but that's if you really want to do the
job right, Chris, you're gonna have some of that because
because if you're flinching on everything and every and everything
hinges on you being cool with somebody or saying something,
it's gonna be a long day at the office, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
What I mean.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
It's not for him, not that I don't have to
rip everybody, but if you can't give it a roll, yeah,
if you can't give an honest opinion, you know what
I mean, Because you're afraid someone's gonna say something the
next time you see him.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It just it puts you on a tough spot. You
gotta be you gotta keep it real.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
But like I said, he's not It's not like he's
gonna be debating, you know, and anything like that.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
But no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Still, you know you're gonna have to call it like
you see it, all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine
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Speaker 4 (15:20):
All right, it's the Eye Couple Chris and Ribe Dallas
Mavericks Up fourteen thirty nine, five eight and a half
minutes to go in the second quarter eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox, You'll turn the way in. Has
quarterbacking gone south in the NFL? As Tom Brady says it,
(15:42):
all right.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Chris, let's kick it off with TZ in the Natti Cincinnati.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports radio place.
I'll be visiting soon.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
What's up, partner, Christmas.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
Sorry, I appreciate that having me yell, thanks, buddy, You're.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
The funniest guy on sports radio.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Listening to you. Gots some day one.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
I know the po the pool Pool King Drug. Hey,
I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Thank you. I think
you're talking about me right now. It's all good, No,
thank you, but no.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
I feel like quarterback has definitely changed, right. I agree
with Brady because just think about how the games come.
It's more now about the mobile quarterback. You know, remember
when Tom Brady first came in, right, it was more
about the pocket quarterback. Now it's more about the mobile quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
And I feel like, yeah, they're.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Throwing a lot.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
They're not like as precise as they was, you know
when he first came in. I think that's what he's
talking about. You know, it's more about mobile quarterbacks now
than it is about pocket quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, you need to be mobile now because of the
speed of the game, like the line defensive ends the linebacks,
they live faster than.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
They used to be.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
I know, and I agree, but I'm kind and thinking
that's what he's talking about, because I was listening to
you guys in the first second.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
So thanks, yep, thanks, jas appreciate it. What about coach
owing the Natty You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio,
what's up?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Coach O?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 10 (17:15):
Robe?
Speaker 8 (17:15):
And Chris Man?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
How are you are you?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And I I'm I'm I'm I'm.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Doing all right right now. I just wanted to say
that I think it's more about the wide receivers that's
playing nowadays more than it is the quarterbacks. I feel
like back then when you had the Manning's and all
of those who had great wide receivers back then too,
but those quarterbacks had to be.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
More on point.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
I feel like now the ride receiver talent is so
crazy that the quarterbacks don't. They don't really have to
be as as accurate and and and read the defenses
as much as more like, get the bob to the
talent and get it in their hands and let them
go to work.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And and there are rules to protect those guys, right,
which makes it easier.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
And the gloves are great too. Never used to see
one handy catch. Those sticky gloves won.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Every every few games. Yes, and that's great. They're still
great receivers.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Don't get me wrong, But ROB think we never saw
one handy catch.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm telling you what. I didn't even know about those
gloves and what was going on.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I would.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I remember watching the Odell Beckham junior cat and I thought,
that's the greatest.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Catch I ever saw. That's what I said. It was
a great cat. Do you know what I mean? It was?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I didn't know the gloves with that stick right, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Remember the throat.
Speaker 8 (18:35):
Nobody remembers that throat.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Everybody remembers the cat, right, Yep, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Let's squeeze another one in Chris, Chili Tim in Atlanta.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports rating. If anybody
else wants to jump in eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox, how were you, Chili Tim?
Speaker 10 (18:54):
I'm doing I'm chilling Man, how you guys are doing.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
It's hot here?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Is it really?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm Birmingham, Alabama and they told me, they said, Chris,
they said it's smoking down there.
Speaker 11 (19:06):
That's what.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I think.
Speaker 12 (19:12):
It's two reasons. I think it did take a step back.
Uh the previous college said right, receivers, but I would
go in a different directions. My first thing is that
I don't think the quarterbacks has to be as accurate
now because of.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
The rules of the game.
Speaker 10 (19:28):
Uh, the receivers, you know, the defensive backs can barely
touch them, so they're.
Speaker 12 (19:32):
So wide open. You don't have to be the greatest.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
And most you know throughout the pats of the.
Speaker 11 (19:38):
Football like they used to be, because you know the rules.
Speaker 12 (19:41):
They can't touch the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
They can't touch the receivers.
Speaker 11 (19:44):
And you know, they have all day to throw the ball,
whereas you know, back in the days of LT and
Ronnie those guys, I mean you had to he had
to be on the money or they were out there throwing.
You know, I used to call ambulance balls because you
know guys are going to uh catching, you know, right right.
And then the second thing I think is is that, uh,
(20:05):
you know, because of that like you guys like the
New York Giants quarterback and guys like that, they're getting
paid now. I mean they don't deserve it, but just
because they are the quarterbacks, they're getting these big paydays
and they're, you know, getting the shine, and I think
they're not earning it. So I think the rule changes.
Speaker 10 (20:22):
And then the mentality of where, you know, everybody's the
next man up, mentality, whether I deserve it or not,
I'm gonna get paid. So you know, these guys don't
really have to go out there and earn the contract anymore.
Just because you're the quarterback on the.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Team, you know you're gonna get paid.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
You're gonna get paid.
Speaker 10 (20:40):
So I think those are the two things that have
kind of made it go back a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You guys, have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Man, you too, Man, you too, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
All Right, it's the Eye couple, Chris and Rob. We
got Klay Harbery's before me. NFL tight end now in
NFL Analysts coming up and we'll talk to him in
a few minutes before Steve de Seger with the UPDA.
Speaker 13 (21:02):
See, guys, you mentioned the Celtics seven to zero on
the road. This post up the Lakers about twenty years
ago had an eight and zero road record for a postseason.
Celtics are down twenty at Dallas right now, six and
a half minutes to go second period, Mavericks forty five
to twenty five in the lead. Dallas shooting fifty five
percent from the floor, led by Luka Doncich who has
(21:23):
eighteen points. Boston from three point range three for fourteen.
Jason Tatum their first half leading scorer so far eleven points.
Celtics leading the NBA Finals three games to none. If
there's a Game five, it would be at Boston on
Monday night. Stanley Cup Game four is tomorrow night, Florida,
with a chance to close it out, up three games
to none and playing at Edmonton again. At the US Open,
(21:46):
Tiger Woods missed the cut at seven over par, also
out Jason Day who shot seventy seven today, Ricky Fowler,
who shot seventy seven. Scottie Scheffler barely made the cut
at five over par, as did brooks Kopka despite his
seventy five Today. Leader Ludwig Obert a one stroke advantage
over Bryson de Shambos in a three way tie for second.
That time includes Patrick Cantley. US women soccer is down
(22:09):
to number five in the New World Rankings, it's lowest
spot in the twenty plus years of this list. Spain
is still number one. The Men's euro Championship started today
on Fox TV Germany. The host defeated Scotland five to one.
The tournament finale will be in Berlin in a month.
To MLB action, Washington tonight an eight to one winner
against Miami. The Nats scored seven times in the third inning,
(22:31):
including seven straight hits to start the frame. Saint Louis
beat the Cubs today in Chicago, three to nothing. The
Yankees at the end of five are up five to
one at Boston. Top of the tenth A. Baltimore Orioles
tied with the Phillies two to two. Cleveland Guardians are
winning again three to one at Toronto. In the bottom
of the ninth Net's had a rain delay at the start.
They are only top of the fifth inning. Mets lead
(22:52):
to one over the Padres.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
End of seven.
Speaker 13 (22:55):
Brave seven to two over the Raves, but Atlanta outfielder
Michael Harris left early with hamstring tightness. Houston is scoreless
with Detroit in the sixth. Detroit starting pitcher Trek Scooble
is eight and one. Houston cut first baseman jose Abray.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You today, how much do they owe Steve? Like thirty
million dollars? Thirty million? Thirty million dollars they cut Aubray.
Speaker 13 (23:16):
You We're about halfway through a three year deal. It's
a former Rookie of the Year. When he came to
this countrymer MVP and it was a great playoff with
the Waiesaw past tense. He was betting one twenty four.
This year they sent em to the miners.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
What's eat thirty million dollars, Chris, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Well look at the Broncos. Yeah, I got rid of
Russ Ye crazy.
Speaker 13 (23:36):
Yeah, consider what they paid Russell Wilson amount of games
he actually played for them. We're under six and a
half minutes to go in Dallas second quarter. Man, it's
forty five twenty five over Boston Beck team.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It comes a big run.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Alright, Steve, have a have a good weeknd Steve, yep.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
All right.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
It's the Eye Couple live from the tire rack dot
Com studios.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Our next guest, former.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
NFL tight end now in NFL analyst.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
We welcome in Clay Harbor, Clay. How are you?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm good, Chris? How you fens doing it?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
How you you're great?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's good man. The lot going on out here in
Chicago obviously with the Bears, and then we just saw
my old chee Dad Gires. I mean you guys hear that. Yeah,
you're backing up the brink truck for Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Well, do you think that was the right move. I mean,
he hasn't exactly lit the legal on fire.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
That was the right move, Chritis. I mean you can
basically put chass to show you anything in this league.
And here's the deal. Trevor is getting the last year
of this deal. Then he's getting in the fifth year option.
Then the five year contract kicks in. Right, So if
you look at the real money over the seven years,
(24:52):
I'll keeping them there through twenty thirty one. If you
look at the real money at the Sea, it's down
at like forty five million here. Obviously, if you look
at the five year extension, that puts in the fifty
five million. By the time three years come around and
you're getting that money, it's gonna be right where he
should be. And he's your number one quarterback. He was
your first round draft pick. So it's not like he's
(25:14):
getting paid more than Joe Burrow right now, he's getting
paid forty five a year. He's still on this contract
for another year and then he's getting that fifth year
option and then he gets the money even though he
did get like eighty one signing, but the contract is
still pay that much. Shift.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I think you were a not in the Caleb Williams
camp of the Bears drafting him.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Where have you changed your mind?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, man, I'll come around. I was just thinking what
you could do with all those picks, and not like
I didn't like Caleb, but when you could trade that
pick and you still had Justin Fields, I thought you
could do so much to turn around that roster. So
now that we got him, we're able to make the
keenan More deal for a fourth round hit. You get
keen in More, then you draft Romo's Don't Day, and
(26:05):
you got Campbell Williams. So now I'm thinking the Bears
have a legit offense for the first time to come
that we can say, obviously something might happen, some craze
is gonna happen. The Chicago and offense just don't go together.
But right now it looks like the Bears is gonna
have a legit offense. There's no weakness out there. But
the problem right now is that Dean line Comati then
coming in to play the Bear. I'm chipping monta sweat
(26:27):
all game. We're double team in Manta sweat. Nobody else
is going to come close to the quarterback, So you
might need to try to find a metal guy to
stow the market to really complete that defensive line. But overall,
I think that the Bears actually have a chance if
kalb plays okay to win the NFC North. I'm not
sold on Green Bay. I'm not completely sold on Detroit.
(26:48):
The Bear should have beat him twice last year. They
did him once. They had a ninety five percent chance
to win in the score.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, that was a terrible lass. That was terrible.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yes, the Yeah, there's some people that I think the
Bears can reach the super Bowl next year. Obviously, like
you said, Caleb needs to play well. Where do you
think about them being a super Bowl contender? And look,
I think Caleb's going to be great eventually, but I
do think he'll have at least some growing pains as
a rookie.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
What do you expect from him and the team next year?
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I mean this, it's going to be some problems, especially
when you're a rookie coming in the league. I don't
think some super Bowl contenders, but I think you're competing
for this division. If he plays okay, you got to
realize the lesson he's got around him, Like Justin Fields
has to be looking at this offense and be like,
where was this for me? I mean, you've got three
(27:40):
really good receivers. People already saying Homelands looks like th
real deal. We know DJ Moore and Keith and Allen
could do. Coach comment and General Everett, both those guys
are top twenty tight ends. And he looks the running
back jably so to the charge he catch the ball
to protect. So just because what he's got around him,
I think he's going to be good. And we know
the talent, the creativity at all the time. So I
(28:04):
think it's possible. I don't think it's a super Bowl possibility.
And let's throw one touchdown before we talk about the
super Bowl night.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, I heard in the division you were kind of
bad mouthing everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Why do you feel that way?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Why are you not in Why don't you not believe
in Green Bay? Why do you not believe in Detroit?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
What?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
What do you see with those two teams that that
give you pause or make you question them?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
I like Detroit. I used to play for the Lions
as well. Dan Campbell coach when I was with the Shanks.
I love Dan Campbell. I mean, this guy would have
you ready to run through a wall going on.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Unfortunately cost him a trip to the super Bowl. But
that's another story.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I know half of our time in the league, in
our meeting or we'd be just friend to Dan tell stories.
We have to go over play, you know, back in
my day, you know, we used to go out there
and we would play inside real for Penmant. You know,
Dan's a hungbelievable guy, and I think he got a
good team. But look at what the Bears were able
(29:05):
to do last year. Watching those games in person, and
you see in that the Bear should have won both
those games. I liked him, but I just don't think
Jardoff is a difference maker. Obviously he was able to
be a plan from the Super Bowl last year, but
you got to show me that again, Jordan Love I
just need to see him be that guy he was
(29:27):
the second half of the season again before I really
believe I just don't believe they can they can hit
on a quarterback like this. Again, I'm basically hoping there.
But the way he started the season for finishing the
season was two different two different people. I mean, I
want to see that consistency had at the end of
the year again, and then I'll say, hey, they found
another one.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
So you mentioned, you know, Justin Fields and you thought
they should have kept him. How do you think things
are going to play out as far as a quarterback
in Pittsburgh, Russ.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
He's not even at quarterback. They got too many guys here. Well, yeah,
how you I think that's going to play out.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Here's what I honestly, here's my thoughts. I think they
start out and uh and tough division obviously, and I
don't think they start out well. I think by the
end of the year that you're playing Justin Fields just
because could Justin Fields be the future quarterback in Pittsburgh? Yes? Could?
Russell Wilson's no man. Russe Russ is getting old man,
(30:23):
and I like Russell. You know, I knew him back
in the league. I got to play against him several times,
a guy that every knows he works hard, he's diligent.
But Justin could be the future. And what you could
do with the run game in that offense. Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh,
those guys played Ohio. Steve knows how to play outside.
You can have a smash mouth run game with Justin. Fields,
(30:47):
the zone read, the read option, all that stuff. And
then obviously he can still throw the ball. Has a
great d ball, you know, a PFF brings him top
five and in deep ball last year. Obviously he's got
to work on intermediate stuff in the short stuff too.
But I think the ceiling is too high for fields
that if they don't start out on top of the
(31:07):
division or at least in the thicket things, they're going
to go to the fields to see what they got.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, I think that's probably right. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It was weird that they would bring in both of
those guys, and I just wonder that the idea that
feels everybody was saying, well, just give him a team
or whatever, and he would have these opportunities. Nobody else
really wanted them. How surprised were you just on where
they were and like that there wasn't more demand on him.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, I was. I was pretty shocked. In Chicago. We
saw what he was capable of, and I think we
probably overlooked a few things too, because Chicago wants a
quarterback so bad. I mean, this city is the only
team in the in the country, in the world in
football that hasn't had a quarterback throw thirty touchdown packs
and today's they were thousand yards three thousand yards.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
What do we always say, hey, what do we always
say that the Bears haven't had a quarterback since Sid?
Speaker 13 (32:04):
Sid?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Luckman in.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Chicago loves football, Like, come on, man, I mean we
wanted it so bad that we overlooked some day for Justin.
Obviously he was in the quarterback that was picking people
apart what I saw in him, because I knew there
were some things. But if you were able to manipulate
an offense, a specific offense, for this guy, his running
(32:29):
ability is passing ability. He wasn't the drop back you
know robotic, you know left right, three step drop, five
step drop, seven step drop. He was going to take
longer to throw the ball. But this guy could score
from anywhere on the field with his legs. So if
he could tailor him offense to that and then get
him comfortable enough with the pass game. I mean, there'sre's
so many things you could do with the guy, and
(32:50):
that's what I saw. It would take some creativity, it
would take a little bit of time and something different,
and you have to have a scheme to fit them.
But I saw the possible abilities with him, but they
tried to fit him into a scheme instead of fitting
a scheme into him.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Last thing before you go, Clay Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
There's been a lot of talk now after Trevor Lawrence signs,
you think the Cowboys should pay him now, I mean,
it'll be tough for him to sign him Mike a
ASCD at all that huge money.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Well, I mean if they unless they think Trey Lance
is sitting back. I don't know what Jerry's masters planning.
I mean me, it seems like.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
He's saying Dak better better play well this year, lead
him deep into the playoffs. Or he might try to
go to forty nine ers route with a low priced quarterback,
ally Trey Lance, and you know, put a bunch of
pieces around him.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I mean, that's one way to do it. But I mean,
if you look, in this league, you need a proven quarterback.
I mean he finally in the draft. He's gonna try
a journeyman. I think Dak is one of the most
accurate quarterbacks in the NFL the way obviously he's got
to get better in the playoffs. We all know when
it comes to playoff times. You see the meme. You know,
Dak Prescott in the playoffs. You know Luka Doncis in
(34:08):
the finals. That's on right now, you know. So, I
think you need a quarterback and to let Dak walk
for nothing is malpractice. They should have got this deal
done a year ago, two years ago. The longer you wait,
the price is going to go.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Up right, all right and go down Ye play Harbor
for REDFL Titan.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
It was great stuff, man, Thank.
Speaker 12 (34:32):
You appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Guys, Thank you Rob.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
The w NBA is losing big bucks despite Caitlin Clark's presence.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
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Rob's story came out this week about the WNBA and
obviously they are. You know, ratings are up, the tendance
(35:47):
is up, the league's popularity is high as it's ever been,
probably higher. But according to the Washington Post, Rob, they
are still expected to lose fifty million.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Dollars this season.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
And you remember, back in twenty eighteen, the NBA's commissioner,
Adam Silver said the WNBA lost an average of ten
million dollars a year since it began, and that the
NBA has basically been carrying it and if it wasn't
for the NBA, if it wasn't for the NBA, there
(36:26):
would be no WNBA and Rob, this is just and
it's not like we're glad this is the case. We
hope the WNBA keeps growing to the point where it
can be self sufficient. But when people throw out all
the players only making ninety thousand dollars or whatever it
(36:47):
might be, and the NBA players make so much money,
this is you know, discrimination, And no, it's just business.
It's based on how much money your league brings in
and they're just not bringing in money, so you can't
compare their salaries to the NBA players.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's a supplying demand. Chris, this is real simple.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I've talked about it over and over if you And
here's the other thing too, like, yeah, the attendance is
up and all that for her games.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
For her, I think they're up a little more in general,
but yeah, but her, it's right.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I said this before the season started. She's the hall
them Globe shotters, Chris went. When they show when she
shows up, they're gonna pack the house. People gonna watch
the games. And it's no knock on anything else. But
it's not like they're packing out the place. Now.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Everybody's in the women's basketball no matter.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Well, here's playing, right, Caitlyn Clark's games home and road
averaged fifteen.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Thousand and forty two fans.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Every all the other teams in the league their games
averaged seven thousand, right, six hundred and forty five.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Fit it's basically double.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Right and could her and and that's not a big
difference from what it was a year ago. Like for
the wnbair average attendance, they've only they've only averaged six
or seven thousand, that's what it was. She has no
doubt the draw. Yeah, but they need other teams to
do better as well. And it has been a case
I was told a long time ago, remember the Detroit Shock.
(38:24):
They had won some championship and all that. Laber Beer
was the head coach and all that. But I was
told they couldn't sell any tickets. Couldn't They couldn't sell
any tickets, Chris. And you know, the championship people wanted
to be around a winner, and they showed up for that,
but they weren't showing up for the games and they
you know, it just wasn't happening. And uh, it's been
(38:44):
a struggle for a long time this league. It's been
around almost thirty years, Chris. Now it's not brand new right, right.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, And let me ask you this, and this is
kind of tongue in cheek, but I'll be interested to
see what you say.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
It's some people have thrown out the idea.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
That if they lowered the rims to maybe nine feet
so they could dunk, uh, it would be batter it
would draw more ratings.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It would appeal to guys because the game is played
below the rim, and they would want to see it
played above the rim, Chris. So, I do think that
it would have more appeal from that standpoint, And we
talked about all the time. The reason that people and guys,
especially guys got into Caitlin Clark was because of the
(39:35):
three from the from the distance that that was the
one Chris.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
We hadn't seen that, No, right, we hadn't seen that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
What.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, as far as the nine for I mean, it
sounds obviously gimmicky. It is gimmicky.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
I wouldn't I don't think i'd want to see it.
That's a huge adjustment.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You don't want to do it.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
They used to shooting and you were cheap in the game. Yeah,
it really would. It would kind of a give you.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Don't want to do that, you got to be careful
with some standards and you know, and doing stuff right
because then because then you lose all that has been
done and everything doesn't feel the same.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
It's just it's a bad It would be really odd,
And I don't I mean, it's not like they everybody
be dunking all of a sudden, And even if they are,
is it gonna change the you know, the.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Attendance and the viewership that much.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
After a while, people probably get you know, tune it out,
you know, kind of or get used to it or whatever.
So yeah, I don't think that's a good idea. I
think they keep it like it is. But you know,
they need Caitlin to become a star. I mean, she's
played well. I think she's had She's clearly gonna be
the Rookie of the Year if this continues. But they
need her to really be a superstar. And I don't
(40:48):
even know if that will see how much that helps
rop because like I said, they're still on pace to
lose fifty million.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Dollars, right and because now all of a sudden they
got the charters and all that, you know what I mean,
And that costs money, and the attendance still, you know,
is it where you need it to be?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's gonna take a while. And they gotta see too,
Chris does she does she play out at all? Like
if after people have seen her, next year they showing
up again, you know what I mean? Like there's another no,
that's you know, like everybody saw it. She came to
town three times. I saw her play okay, and now
am I going again next year?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Naw, that's that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
And also that article in the Washington Post did also
say that they you know, they're gonna get a nice
little lucrative, you know, relatively speaking, TV deal. It'll be
it'll be affiliated with the NBA's deal, but it will
be a better TV deal so that that should help
the salaries and things like that.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
All right, it is the odd couple signing off. We
with all of you five fathers.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
They weekend and enjoy yourselves, Rob have a great weekend,
you two, yep, and keep it locked Jason Smith, Mike
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