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August 1, 2025 32 mins

Former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam is in for Kelvin, and he and Rob tell us why they don't believe real football fans actually watch NFL Red Zone. Plus, NBC Dallas-Ft Worth host Newy Scruggs swings by to discuss Micah Parsons' trade demands out of Dallas, how much blame Jerry Jones deserves for this latest Cowboys debacle, whether we can expect Parsons to get a new contract before the season starts, and much more!

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anchor down there on the NBC station, and we'll get
some insight as what's going on down in Big d
And don't forget last call as well, your chance to
get in on some of the topics. Maybe you weren't
able to get in earlier, Rob Gen, it was a

(01:39):
big media story today, worth billions with the B billions
and billions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Tell us about it.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, worth more money than MLB bro and hit An
Empire Group combined.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
There you go, that's what I heard.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
That's right right to your face.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I said that. Look at that's like you don't know
how much Moe I got in the bank.

Speaker 7 (01:59):
Can we talked about but any one hundred million?

Speaker 6 (02:01):
You ain't got a three million anyways?

Speaker 5 (02:04):
You got million dollars and you bugged me about parking passes.

Speaker 7 (02:08):
Hey man, I don't have three million. I wish I
still wouldn't be here. We pay your twelve dollars part anyways,
twenty just like thirty two dollars.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
I know it's crazy. It's one of the disneylast out
of control. No, it's not.

Speaker 7 (02:21):
What's lest I been Island, my parents. My family goes
probably forty times a year.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Oh my, see, everybody got choices, rob see.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
I had choices. Man. At some point we all were
in high school. Should have tried harder. Oh my, should
have tried harder in high school. Man, I don't don't
be mad at me. I had a goal at fifteen.
I decided, I decided how I want it tall. I
decided how I wanted life to go.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (02:44):
At fifteen years old, I decided how I wanted my
life to put eight an athletic. That's what a lot
of six foot eight guys working security I could tell
you that.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
We're in high water pans man.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
We all had choices working at Team Mobile.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
But anyways, as you mentioned, the NFL and ESPN reached
a blockbuster, monumental agreement that's worth as you mentioned, billions
of dollars. And what happened was ESPN bought the rights
to the NFL network on all their media assets, their
podcast network, their buildings, their properties, everything.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
It makes sense because the NFL didn't seem like they
wanted wanted it. I mean, they kept all the stuff
that they've done over there, like they didn't care.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
I believe about it.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
But the thing that has everybody all up in arms,
got their panties all in a bunch, is that as
part of this deal, when ESPN bought the NFL Network,
they also acquired the rights to.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
The Red Zone.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
That's right, that channel that you can put on every
NFL Sunday, and they got every single game going. You
get a quick snapshot thirty seconds here, a minute there,
two minutes there, but it helps you to keep track
of what's going on NFL Sunday. And Rob apparently is
visible to be upset about this whole situation.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I am because I'm gonna admit something to you that
I've never admitted before on national radio.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
Oh be carefully what you're talking about? What I ain't
saying nothing. It's freaky Friday, man. I didn't know what
you were getting ready to say.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I have never, huh ever, ever, ever ever watch the
Red Zone ever from ever. And I'm not even kidding you.
I think the Red Zone is for casual fans, not

(04:32):
real football fans. Anybody who turns that on on a
Sunday can't be a real football fan because when I
watch a game from I no, I'm not watching eight
games at one time. I don't want to watch eight
I want to watch offense defense, Like there's more to football.
I want to see the game development, I want to
see plays. I want to watch a game. I want

(04:52):
to watch the best game available that I can see,
and I watch highlights from the other ones. But the
idea that this is just skipping around and every time
they get into the red zone, and that's watching football.
You're not interested in football. This is the gambling thing.
This is the fantasy fantasy football. You got one hundred
dollars pool at work, and this is what drives you,

(05:14):
and this is what you're watching. You're not a real
football fan if you're watching red zone and not watching
full games? Am I crazy with sugar nough? Do you
watch the red zoners? You watch football game? I don't
watch the red zone. The only time I've watched the
red zone is when I was in London two years
ago for the London game and prior to the game

(05:37):
they were playing the other game, or when I came
home from the game because it's early over then while you're.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Always flexing about, like you know, you're traveling national my.

Speaker 7 (05:44):
Life, I can't. I'm all. I'm gonna be as honest. Okay,
go ahead, Okay, you asked me if I watch Red Zone,
I don't watch it at home. I watch every game.
I watch all eight games at a time sometimes not.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
You're not watching. You can't you have to watch.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
I know you're doing it. I've been doing.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
You can't watch all eight games.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
I watch eight games because I have a radio show
after and I talk about.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
So how do you watch? Okay, so something's going on
on one TV.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
How you set up is in here?

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yes, but you're not watching all of you only have
two odds on my hat.

Speaker 7 (06:17):
With YouTube buying the NFL Sunday ticket was they only
show four games at a time. When it was on
direct TV, you got all eight. You had all eight.
Even your local game all came on on all eight. Now,
if your TV is big enough, they're not little squares there.

(06:40):
You still can't e from You can only watch one game.
I've been doing it for over a decade. I can
watch every single game, but you don't. You're not watching.
I watch every but you don't watch. That's watch and
I can watch it.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
How can you watch? You watch us?

Speaker 7 (06:59):
I know what I'm I watch eight games at a time.
Sometimes nine. I do it. I've been doing it for decades.
That's why I'm so knowledgeable on my show from five
pm to eight pm on Sundaysday on Sundays. All right,
that's why I'm doing this. Mark Willard right, he broke

(07:21):
me in on Mark. And I been, you know, doing
this for a long time, even back when I was
playing and all that. I've been in this business over
twenty he's a forty nine, twenty six, twenty seven years.
You didn't know that I've been in broadcasting.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
No, I know, because I saw you on CBS ripping
me many years ago.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
Rob G. I've seen the video. I saw the video.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I know I've been back there, back there it is.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
But to your point, your red zone is not for me, right,
I need more information than I get from red zone.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
But that's not even casual.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
I don't. Yeah, I agree with you. I very rarely
agree with you because you be on some other stuff.
But in this case, I agree with you that the
red zone is for casual fans.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
It ain't for a football fan. Rob, Are you a
red zone guy?

Speaker 6 (08:07):
I never watched red zone.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
I just I don't know anybody, Alex. I know you
don't watch red zone because you don't know what red
zone is.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
No, he doesn't watch it, of course not. But I
agree with even I think it is possible to watch it.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
No, it's not.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
I can watch four to six.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
You know exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
You know, sharp.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Football minded as Ephraim is, because I can still get
the context of.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
What I'm wanting.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
I know exactly what I'm looking at that. But you
can't see all the players. Yeah I can, I can,
and I do. Okay, it's my job to I just
the red zone.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I could never figure it out when it came up
and people were so excited about it. You're about having
a red zone, and I get it. People are offensive,
right minded, and they want to see scoring and all
that kind of stuff. But a football game is there's
more than just that. Their plays on defense. If you're
watching the red zone, right, yep, and it just focuses it.

(09:07):
What about that team that's in the red zone that
has a great defense and they make a play or something,
I'm not watching that because they're not gonna show that.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Well, Rob, I think you have a good point, But
I think an even bigger problem with the red zone
and things like that is they might show a key
third down stop on red zone, right, because they got
a lot of time to feel they got a famously
commercial free for like seventeen hours or something like that.
What you don't get in a situation like the red
zone is on second and six, that running back was

(09:38):
stacked up for a three yard loss and that's set
up a bad third down situation. But that's part of
the game football, and that's part of understanding the context
about what's going on.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
That's what I'm saying, Like there's a context to the game.
It ain't just you know, it's not just an offensive
thing because something else was set in motion, like just
talked about, or play that was made to put them
in that situation.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
You had a penalty that drew them back exactly like, well,
why am I you know?

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Third?

Speaker 6 (10:08):
How do we lose the ball? I was like, well,
you missed this, this and this.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I just I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I've never never ever wanted to watch and and to me,
I'm not a guy who wants to watch four games.
I really don't. I want to watch the best game available.
I really want to watch the bass. So here's the
question for.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
You guys, both say that you don't watch red zone
for different Well, because he wants to watch every game,
Rob because he wants to lock in on like one
or two. I want to watch a good game, man,
I want to watch I want to do you think, then,
can I assume that the red Zone channel and things
like that because other sports are trying it, they just
don't really do it well that it's bad for the football,

(10:48):
it's bad for the NFL.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I just think it's bastardizing the game. Is that fair?
Like like it's it's it's telling you.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
That this is football, but it's not really football, because
football is more than just it's more nuanced than high exactly,
and it's not just the highlights of it. I don't
know how you could watch a game and not There's
so many things that can happen in the football game
in the first quarter, right, or or some situation or
circumstance and just to be focused in on Okay, they're

(11:25):
in the red zone, let's go, let's go take a look. Now,
how'd they get there? What about the forty yard bomb?
What about the broken tackles? When the guy right who
started at the twenty and ran for sixty yards we're
not seeing that because we're not interested in that. Now
that they were at the other twenty, right, and the
opponent's twenty, Now we'll click it on after they just

(11:47):
went sixty yards.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I don't get it.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Yeah, I like my I like to be able to track,
and I can track the games. I don't want to
pick up inside the twenty and move on in right.
I want to know if they got to pick to
get there, like all of those things. Those things matter.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
I mean, they showed that kind of stuff because they again,
they got a lot of time, they got to feel.
It's only like third down conversion, splash plays things like that.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Right, I'm just saying, like the whole game. I think
that football is a game. It's great to me. I
love to watch like a game when they have, especially
the national games or the big games.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
I just want to watch Sunday night football. So then,
do you think that that format could work in baseball?

Speaker 7 (12:34):
No?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
I think they have something like it called extra innings
or something, right, you know, like everybody has something that's
that format work in any sport to you or you
just think this is just the lowest common denominator it is.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's to me, I just want to watch the game.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
I would still rather watch one game focusing on it,
you know what I mean, if somebody's pitching, or if
there's a basketball game. I don't need to see every game.
That's just because I could watch highlights for what you're
just talking about the red zone after the games? Can
I watch that and I'll see all that? But that's

(13:10):
why I'm saying this is for casuals.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
People make a lot of money just watching the red
zone and going on air and talking about it.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
That's true, do they?

Speaker 8 (13:17):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (13:17):
Yeah, you'd be surprised.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, everybody except for yours truly eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox eight seven seven nine six sixty three
sixty nine. I'm very interested to hear what people have
to say about this. Do real football fans actually watch
the NFL red zone or is it just for casuals

(13:41):
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Speaker 4 (14:35):
Rob Parker from salam In for Kelvin Washington, ache knees,
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Speaker 2 (14:54):
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Speaker 4 (14:56):
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Speaker 2 (15:01):
An age old question.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
I guess ESPN has a purchase the red Zone, and
we just thought, do you watch the red Zone? And
zephy for real football fans are just casual uh, fantasy
football geeks because and I would rather watch games than
the red Zone.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
But where are you?

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Is that Levon Levon in Detroit? You're on the couple
of fool sports radar Levon what's up?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Levon?

Speaker 8 (15:33):
Bro?

Speaker 10 (15:33):
Yeah, Yeah, I love I loves I love football. I
love reso because you get to see everything. You don't
miss nothing, you see everybody.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
You don't see everything.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
You don't see defensive plays that that don't that start
earlier in the in the drive heavy.

Speaker 10 (15:47):
You don't watch it, they go back and saw you
would happen, it would live it up to the play
that they scored on. So I love watchings. I'm a
Lions mayer. I love the Lions.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Why would you just watch the Lions game? Is what
I'm trying to ask you.

Speaker 10 (16:00):
Frustrating watching the Lions, watching the Lions. I still watch
the love watching everybody else play too. I love watching everybody.
I'm waded football in college. I love football, but I
don't bet on it or nothing, and I don't play fantasy.
I love watching everybody play.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Okay, but can't you watch a game and then watch
the highlights after the game.

Speaker 10 (16:21):
I want to watch it live in real time. Res
you see in real time or this sort right after
this happens.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
I'm gonna say it a live real time because they
can't show up. If three teams are scoring at the
same time. Somebody's on tape, so.

Speaker 10 (16:33):
You can every dinner. You don't watch reds on. They
show if there's three teams in the reds on, they're
show all three touch dolls at the same time.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
How can they show it on in the corner boxes? Yeah?
What you kept?

Speaker 10 (16:45):
Yeah, but I'm saying, but they're don't give you way
more information. If you want to watch a reds on,
it's a lot that you're missing on tools. Everything happened.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I want to watch. I want to watch one full game,
is what I'm trying to get at.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I don't want to see if I want to see
highlights of four other games, guess what after the game,
I watched the highlights of that game. Ken in Pennsyl Tucky,
you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
What's up? Ken?

Speaker 11 (17:11):
First off, I.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
Would appreciate that you want to watch a game because
that is a different experience. Totally understand it.

Speaker 11 (17:19):
That's what I want to you.

Speaker 8 (17:20):
But you are totally misunderstanding what red zone is. Red
zone isn't red zone. It's exciting plays happening now. And
they go as far as six different views on the TV,
which they wouldn't. I wish they would just stop at

(17:41):
four so you can see everything. Maybe not.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
You can't see everything, Ken, can you can?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
You can't shooting me? I can, Ken.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
I want to have a conversation with you, but you
can't shoot me on my show.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
Okay, come on, Ken, I understand, Okay, okay, but you've
got to understand it.

Speaker 11 (18:03):
It's not red zone.

Speaker 8 (18:05):
They show all the exciting plays.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Now I can.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
I can watch. That's what that's my point. That's what
highlights are. That's what you're right.

Speaker 8 (18:16):
It's not live two hours later.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
What's the difference you're watching it. It's like it's not live,
it's it just happened.

Speaker 8 (18:23):
But it's ten seconds later, not two hours later. And
I'm watching the next one ten seconds later, and I'm
watching the next one ten seconds later. It's it's a
completely different chi.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
It was the last time you went to a football game,
actually went to a game, Ken.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm asking you a question. When's the last time you
went to a football game.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
I'm a season ticket holder at the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I can't believe it, so that doesn't make any sense
to me.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Turned down the radio.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
That's right, Thank you, dre in Michigan. You're on the
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drake?

Speaker 10 (18:59):
Wow? Little heat over there?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
How you buddy?

Speaker 10 (19:03):
Hey, I brought yourself.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
I don't need to tell you to turn your radio down, right,
because you already know that.

Speaker 10 (19:10):
I'm day one, so I know for sure. Hey, even
if I thought about you last week, I went to
my high school reunion, I like, man, you got to
have choices.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
You going to a whole bunch of bad choices, didn't you?
Was like, man, what was y'all thinking about?

Speaker 8 (19:23):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (19:24):
I walked out there feeling like Neil, I do a
lot of bullies.

Speaker 7 (19:29):
Man.

Speaker 10 (19:29):
Anyway, I kind of disagree with you. I think that
rezone is for the hardcore football fans because if you
look at the gamblers in the Fantasy Football League, they
made up a hardcore football watch. Me, personally, I don't
like it because I'm like you, I like to watch
the whole game.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
I just want to watch the game.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
That's my That's my point is that I want to
watch them start to finish. I want to watch the plays,
I want to see the running backs. I want to
see the.

Speaker 10 (19:56):
Game absolutely absolutely. But you understand, like levinod saying if
you look at some of the like Lions fans, like
about four years ago the game was over halftime, Man,
let me send d It'd be Jacksonville versus the coach.
I have to turn the reds on sudden, like, let
me watch these I ain't got nothing else. So I mean,
sometimes it does has a purpose, you know what I'm saying.
But I'm like you, That's why I quit fantasy football

(20:17):
because it changed the way I watched the game. And
I'm like, no, I like to just one there.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
You hey, let me tell you something, And gambling has
done that too, Like people don't enjoy the game cause
everything is about all I remember what game was that,
Rob g where the Kansas City punter ran out of
the back of the end zone and you know didn't
cover this.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yes, dude, people went bonkers.

Speaker 7 (20:43):
Yeap, gambling.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
You are so wrong on that, Rob. I know we
got Steve to say it. But gambling on games makes
you love it even.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
It makes you know, it doesn't makes you care about
a Jack Nolle, Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
I agree about that, but the way you watch it
and feel about it isn't the same.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
You feel.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
No, you don't you feel like they jobbed you? Is
go watch go watch social That's what people who don't
know how to gamble say from you see it on
every Sunday, every Sunday whatever, every Sunday.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
You know what, you know what to do? What's Sunday?

Speaker 7 (21:18):
What four hundred and twenty two and eight? You know what?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
You know what they say every every Sunday on that's
trending on Twitter every Sunday rigged script you know, because
they don't believe like what what they're watching.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
Is real, Like script writers were out again.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yes, that's all they talk about because people are mad.
All right, Steve the Sega will get just caught up.
He has an update.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
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Speaker 4 (21:52):
Rob Parker e from salam In for kelvin Washington on
this Funky Flashback Friday. Achy knee stiff, back joints not cooperating.
Some days, you know what your body is just like nope.
And on those days, luckily there's a leave, just one pill.
A leave provides up to twelve hours of pain relief,
so you can keep moving us as director. Don't forget

(22:15):
last calls coming up as well. But now let's welcome
in our guest, Nuie Scruggs. He is a homie, a
friend of the show, the Emmy Award winning sports anchor
down at NBC Dallas for words, who was in Oxnard
covering the Dallas Cowboys and Nui say hello to Ephram.

Speaker 7 (22:33):
Salam baby, good to talk to you again. Man to man,
I'm good.

Speaker 10 (22:39):
Excellent, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 11 (22:41):
Rob you mentor everybody, don't you boy on it?

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Man?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Who me from been in the game thirty five years?

Speaker 11 (22:48):
Now, you've been in the game, but still ain't none
of us in the game before Rob?

Speaker 7 (22:51):
That's true, he was doing the.

Speaker 10 (22:57):
Rob Robin Yona used to hang again.

Speaker 7 (22:59):
Man, it was a black and white radio before TV.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
For I didn't tell you my college is going to
name the press box after.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
You really used to sleep in there?

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah? October fourth, Southern Connecticut State University. What Connecticut State University?
Yes that's a real college. Yes, it's accredited.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
All right.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Way, let's get to the news of today. Uh, turn
off your Micah Parsons. That's what I call this podcast.
He has requested a trade. What is going on here?
Jerry always does, this takes forever. He usually rolls over
and winds up paying people. What what's the disconnect here?

Speaker 11 (23:45):
Disconnect? Michael is getting patient, that's all, just getting in patient.
Here's here's a great thing. So Miles Garrett so the Cleveland.
So Miles is from Arlington, Texy so right there downst
war there February third, out, I'm done, I threw, okay.
Kobe Bryant told the Lakers trade me. This is nothing.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Joby wanted to be traded.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
He went everywhere and everywhere to try to get that done,
and they didn't do what they said.

Speaker 11 (24:11):
No right, Jerry's already said it. Mikes under contracted ship
at twenty four million dollars. So mikeel could say I'm mad,
I'm done, I'm visited too, I'm through, okay, Jerry hasn't responded.
Jerry's never let a superstar player go first training camp.
I ever did in nineteen ninety three with it Austin, Texas,
saying that was university. The Cowboys had just won Super
Bowl twenty seven out of Jimmy Johnson imm six contract

(24:33):
was up, and Jerry was trying to get in to
take less ny than Barry Sanders. Emmy was like, no,
I led the lead, rushing, led us to a super Bowl.
Jerry didn't pay him. He drafted Derek Lassix, thinking that
was going to work. They lost the first two games
of the year.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
I remember that very vividly, and Jerry couldn't wait to
pay him, and Jerry paid.

Speaker 11 (24:50):
And I've said this all day long, said it on
my TV show. Give everybody this real clue. I know
how this ends, the way it always ends. There's a
picture a player with a smile in his hand, a
piece of paper and a pen to sign, and they
get paid a lot of money. They get paid a
lot of money and they're all good with Jerry Jones.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Well, but it hasn't worked out for Jerry because they
have been to an NFC Championship game since Moby Dick
was a guppy.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
What if he did.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Changes his determinate, changes his way and tell Micah to
hit the road, make a deal and fill up some
other holes and and do something different for a chance,
you're gonna have three players making a gazillion dollars on
that team and nothing else.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
How is that going to help the Cowboys, So he's got.

Speaker 11 (25:34):
The most valuable franchise in the world. I don't care
what nobody makes what, but see, broh, that's what you Okay, man,
I always tell people us, and I've done this long
enough with this man.

Speaker 10 (25:44):
That's how you see it.

Speaker 11 (25:47):
I'm look in terms now how he sees it.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
You don't think he wants to win. I'm asking you
just saying he doesn't care about winning?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Because why would you sign Dak Prescott to sixty million
if you don't care about winning?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
And you sell tickets?

Speaker 4 (25:59):
People gonna go to the Cowboy games, no matter who's
the quarterback. People gonna buy the merchandise. Come on Newied
no matter what, no matter what.

Speaker 10 (26:08):
People wanting to win his way.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Okay, but people people buy New York.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
They've been going to Knicks games and selling out all
that they haven't once in nineteen seventy three, and people
still show up at.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Madison Square Garden and sellout.

Speaker 11 (26:22):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
And Jerry wants to win his way. He's going to
do it his way. And you know what, his way
makes a.

Speaker 11 (26:28):
Lot of money.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
He changes.

Speaker 11 (26:30):
I used to do Jerry's radio show. Robots asked these
questions man, I have I don't you know how you
get the point time about? Hey man, I'm that dog
delays in the yard now to let the mailman go,
But I ain't get up the market. Jerry, Okay, this
is what you do, man, this is what you do.
You want to play this game. At the end of
the day at pizza paper side players get all the money.
They either tie or set a new record for whatever position,

(26:53):
be it running back for Ezekiel Elliott, quarterback player for
Dak Presscott, CD Lambs, high and wide receiver record Amari
Cooper tying the wide receiver.

Speaker 10 (27:02):
It all ends the same.

Speaker 11 (27:03):
Why he does this, I don't know. I think he
kind of likes the circus, but this is what it is,
and I'm just not going to be all upset about it.
I'm just laughing because I'm like, guys, this is the league,
this is what he does. He gonna pay him, Don't
know why, don't know. When the problem is you're you're
probably not gonna have your linebacker in shape the way
he needs to be. But that's on him.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
So do you think this deal will get done prior
to the season or it'll carry Remember that it was
the weekend before, day before, ye day before. So do
you think it'll be one of those situations or do
you think this would carry over into the season.

Speaker 11 (27:42):
I haven't seen them carry anything over in the season
basically since him. If these things usually get signed before,
and if you're the player, you don't want to miss
games because you you want to make sure you get
your get your stats and all that kind of stuff
done and get you know, you're all Pro Pro Bowl nods,
and you don't want to get out here missing games.
So I anticipated will get done. Stephen Jones is always
said deadlines make deals, and that's when they like to

(28:05):
do their best work. A lot of their work they
like to do it before training camp or right before game.
This is what they do, man. But it'll get done
because it always gets done.

Speaker 7 (28:14):
And like you said, you know they Michauld can't afford
to be missing games and all that. If it doesn't
get done. He's still up and playing game one of
the regular season. Correct, He's just gonna play out. I
suppose this last year of that contract, whether the deal

(28:35):
gets done or not.

Speaker 11 (28:36):
Correct, Yes, But I just you can't tell me that.

Speaker 10 (28:42):
When they kick off on NBC on.

Speaker 11 (28:45):
Thursday night, that first week of September that Michael Parsons
is not on the field for the Dallas Cowboys. I
just I don't believe it. I've just done this for
too long and watch Jerry do it. And Ceenee Lamb
had a really good well basically saying, hey man, I've
been in the blender. It's still fun to be in
the blender. It's just his time to be there. Good

(29:05):
luck to you, man, and I hope he get well.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
But given given Jerry's history, so why wouldn't his agent
tell him you don't need to do all that. You
don't need to go on social media like give if
I'm a good agent, I'm gonna say this is how
Jerry operates. And he rolled over for Dak, he rolled
over for Emmed, he rolled over for CD Lamb and
he's gonna roll over. You don't need to do all that.
Why is he making a public public spectacle? And oh

(29:34):
thanks Dallas, and I don't want to be here anymore.
When if this is Jerry's m O, I don't understand
what kind of agent do you have?

Speaker 11 (29:41):
It's not about the agent because they've moved the letter.
It's fantastic at.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
What he does no What I'm saying, well, why is
it client out there doing this? If Jerry's gonna roll
over like you said, let me sin this rob.

Speaker 11 (29:51):
Because Mike is an emotional person, Okay, Michae. At one
time he was so mad at us in the meeting.
I'm not talking to you guys. They're not talking to
you guys. I think lasted about a week. You know,
he couldn't help himself. Had to come back and talk.
He's an emotional guy, Okay, and it happened.

Speaker 10 (30:05):
Look at you once again. Go back to my house again.

Speaker 11 (30:08):
I've done Cleveland. I've done. I've been in eight years
and not wait that I've done him out like come
through Boom Gay Ray what Carlone was done with the Jazz,
I'm done with Dale and Larry.

Speaker 8 (30:16):
I'm done.

Speaker 11 (30:17):
He was right back there, man. These are emotional people
feelings and pride or in the way he's out here
doing a podcast the Undertaker, Like why they page I
don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 10 (30:26):
I've done everything.

Speaker 11 (30:26):
Why And the dude's in this bag of feelings right
now and Jerry is not. That's why he's the master
negotiator and a deal. Look, get you and we're sitting
here talking about this stick. You guys are fall up
the banana and the tailpip. I'm telling you how the.

Speaker 10 (30:38):
Story he man.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
All right, well, that's why we called you because you
wanted to get the skinny. You're you're living it for
the last thirty years down there in Dallas. But but
you did bring up Jerry's the radio show you you
did with UH with Jerry, right, and and.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I do I have a clip of UH.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
I called into the show and Jerry actually responded to me.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Did you know that we got the clip?

Speaker 11 (31:02):
Except for one thing, you forgot to turn down the radio.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Thank you, Jerry. He did it.

Speaker 8 (31:12):
You try to.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Perfectly perfectly, said.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
R G three says, Hi, thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
It's called entertainment dollar Newie. You remember you used to
do radio a long time ago.

Speaker 11 (31:35):
He's laid it up there for you.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
For you turned down the radio exactly.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Thank you, Jerry. I'll turn it down next time, all right,
Appreciate you. Thanks for Scruggs. All right, no doubt that
was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
It sounds like Jerry sounded pretty good.

Speaker 7 (31:50):
There, right, except for one thing.

Speaker 8 (31:53):
You forgot to turn down the radio.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
You know what that is? Perry Mason is your English
teacher when you were in high school. Oh, Perry Mason.
I used to watch that show.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
It's a good show, great show, great right, ye, great
great cast, Raymond BurrH, tremendous black and white TV. And
in one episode, I know a black judge. But they
did them three. They did the brother wrong.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
You know that's got to be racist.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
He had no lines. Can you imagine that
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