November 26, 2024 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether or not Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter should play in the Colorado Buffaloes’ postseason bowl game, discuss Jerry Jones public comments suggesting that he’d be open to offering Mike McCarthy a contract extension this upcoming offseason, explain why it’s clear that Lamar Jackson will win at least one Super Bowl in his career and tell us the real reason why Rob isn’t coming to Thanksgiving at Kelvin’s house this week.
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that we had. We will allow someone to have the
last say on this very uh program.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yep, if it's Mace, he's gonna take the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
The whole time I thought Mason, I thought we had
a bond, and he just trashed. He couldn't say anything.
He like that, stockpiled all this stuff and you know
for years. Yeah, holds on to it.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah that I was Barker twenty twenty one. You said
this like he'd been keeping notes.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
He got the seats, he said, I'm in Derek Judi's
back pocket all the sun wrong. He won five.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
World Series, right, was it five or four? Five?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Five?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Five?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah? Four and nineties and then one later.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, oh nine, Yeah, pretty doing impressive.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
He's al right, all right, just slightly overrated.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
He's got the sixth most hits in the history of baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
He's fifty two.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
No, I played twenty years, but that's that's normal in
baseball to play.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Not that normal.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah about Dave Winfield played twenty like a lot of
guys can play.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Listen, I'm just teasing, but the people do. I mean,
that's cool.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
He has more than anything. Michael Jordan's up there, Derek
Jeter as far as just made the clutch play at
the right moment. So that is what they being endurance.
Sometimes people forget that. Let me tell you some people.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Let me hit the home run on November first, and
they held up the sign.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Mister November. I mean, like he's had his most glass hit.
I mean the home run.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
How was at that game against David Price. Well, he
got the last hit on his last that bat. His
three thousand hit was a home run.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's from it.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, I mean just he just and obviously the little
toss to home in the playoffs, like he's just and
they say something that you only get a first time
to make a first impression. And to his credit, he
made so many clutch plays early on you kind of
just went all that to him. And I use the
example of Lebron Shina from the moment maybe not showing
up early to the point where he's been clutched now
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for the most part for like a decade. But in
your mind, hey, that's just not him because the first
few times I saw him, he didn't necessarily show But
that's just the thing about life in general. So Derek
Jeter is opposite. He showed up, made huge plays, and
just that's kind of all you remember.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You don't like.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Hayli Manning, you know what I'm saying, Like Eli with
the signature throws in the big Super Bowl to win.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
All right, well let's talk about that's gonna be our
great debate, like on our last show.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Whatever that may be, that's gonna be the last one.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
If you keep talking about it might be three more months.
I'm just epic battle right there. It'd be like, let's
go out one more time when more bet Look like, Rob,
I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, that contract,
it was hitting for a little bit. I can't lie
you know, you know it was nice.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
What you say?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You got a nine year Come wait a minute, I
need to talk to the.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Ball you know.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
First all, I wouldn't do nine year contract, believe it
or not, with anything. That's just I would hyperventilate nine
years other than marriage now and she lucky.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I like her.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I ain't even say love. I like her meaning I
like being around you could love somebody that boy. I
wish you could go and get a life and going somewhere.
I like being around my wife. That's cool. I like,
I don't like you being around my wife with having
screenshots of her.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
What that was?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
But you did not delete it yet.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's just deleted. It's deleted. It's not on my phone.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That was hit and roll. Let me check it was. Yeah,
that man, gonna tell me yeah. Man, it was crazy. Man.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I was trying to the Instagram story and then her birthday
screen shot and I saved it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean, oops, I deleted it. Yeah you lucky or
what listen? You lucky? My wife is attractive.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And I'm like, I've had to deal with that now
for so long, so I'm okay with it every now
and again. I've had a couple family members I'm like, yeah, man,
I think the lions and then hey, look look at
me in the eyes, like are.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You looking over here? Over here? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
All right, Well let's talk some college football. We know
Colorado they choked.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It was a big game, Yeah they did.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
They had an opportunity, and an opportunity like everybody was like,
oh wow, Colorado's gonna get They're in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
All they gotta do is beat this h who they
playing kan Kansas. And they were four and they had
but they had a losing record.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
They did, and they all of a sudden, Kansas had
a nerd to think they were Yeah they were four
and uh six at the time, yes, right.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Uh And then but they won a couple of big
games despite their record.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Is YU the week before then beat Colorado.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Right, and b why you and Colorado were right in
the lead, but they were in the lead for the
for the conference. But anyway, so the big thing is uh.
Deon Sanders talked about of course his son Shador and Hunter,
Travis Hunter and Travis Hunter about them not UH. People
were asking whether or not they're going to play in
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the bowl game. Right if they're not in the college
football playoffs, they just have a regular bowl game, and
Dion was asked, would they play in it?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
If it's a meaningless game.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Ball Buffs Nation has loved the ride, especially with this
great season with schedu in Travis, but with the Big
twelve title game in doubt. Will this be the last
time fans see them in the Buffs uniform?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
No, we had a bowl game.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I'm pretty sure we secured that weeks ago for Peggy,
So no, it's not the last time you're going to
see them in a Buffy uniform. We're gonna fight and
try to go out there and kick some butt and
end this thing on the right note. And we're gonna
go to a bowl game and end this thing on
the right note because our fans deserve the absolute best.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Sorry, I'm not with it. I'm not with top picks, right,
they're gonna be first round picks, right, top t Are
they top ten?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Top ten?
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
To ten? Okay, you're gonna go to someone and two
meaningless bowl game and get jack or hurt. We've seen
it happen players who are playing meaningless bowl games. Who
was a Jake Budd with Michigan? Yeah, right, didn't they?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Brody would break a.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Litle hurt, right, Like it's not like uncut? Yeah, Jaylen Smith,
Oh yeah, Jaylen Smith.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
There's a number there's a number of guys where this
has happened to. And I get it if they were
playing in the college football playoffs. Of course you're gonna play.
That's what you play for. But everybody makes so if
you win six games, you had Bowl eligible, you know,
like really you're gonna put their careers in jeopardy to
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play in a meaningless game. That's what it is. And
that there's no Let the other kids play. Aren't there
other kids there where I'm probably played all year? No,
let them play.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
You can't do me like it's put me in No, no, no, no,
little Timmy who ain't played all.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Seasons him play. I think this is a mistake. I
don't think these kids, they have their futures, they don't
owe any body anything else for a meaningless game that
you're not winning. A Now, if you told me that
they're not playing in a college football playoffs today, I
don't want to get heard. Or they're gonna be top
ten picks. I got a problem with that, not this,
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not at all.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
So here's where you're right. Here's where you're wrong. You
are right in theory. Right, you're top player, top pick,
You're going to some enterprise ball or something that doesn't
really mean anything.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I get it. I hear you.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Go ahead, young man, go get paid. Do you think
here's where you're wrong. You're wrong, specifically in this instance
with the Colorado Buffalos, because Deon Sanders has preached more
than just football. And if you're a chaduor you literally
have heard this your whole life, not just your college
football life, your whole entire life, about principle, about integrity,
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about family, about unity, about something more than just simply
you money and fame. And he has been preaching that
his entire career, his whole life to Shadur and out
of Mavin Travis Hunter, who he's had with him now
for years and years and years, and who looks at
like a son. There is something to Rob Parker as well.
I do think we forget sometimes you actually do want
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to finish a thing, and I think this needs to
be optional. Like I hear what you're saying, which is
why I said, you're right if that's what a kid
wants to do. But I don't think a kid should
be looked at as lunus, lunacy or crazy if they
want to finish something. I've been sitting here peaching every man.
Next year you left for your right, it's us and
us and and then all of a sudden, oh wait, no,
it's not a because you might go do this, and
you might go do that. And if a kid chooses
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to say, hey, man, I want to finish this thing
with my brothers, finish this thing with the guys I
came with. We've all put in the same blood, sweat
and tears, sacrifice from family from this, from girlfriends from that,
and we've built this thing up. Man, Colorado was triz
ash a couple of years ago, and now they've been
the talk of the town, if you will, for the
last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You've seen the program build up.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
This is your last experience in college for what period
or now the expectations change because you're making millions and
millions in your this and then you got the NFL.
I don't I'm not mad if the young guys want
to do that. And the last point, Travis Hunter is
so good. Sat Shador Sanders are so good they can
go out there and break a leg and still get
drafted Travis. So let me tell you something. Travis Hunter
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could literally god forbid, could get hurt. I'll just put
it that way. He will still be a top ten pick.
He's that good. And when you got that in the
back of your bag and your back pocket too, then
I understand why you be like, no, I want to
finish thing playing with my boys, finish this thing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Not to mention, I'm still gonna be a top ten pick.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, I disagree. In the meaningless game, if you're playing
for something, I get it. It's it's a meaningless nothing,
It's a nothing burger. You get nothing for it. All
you do is waste your time and put yourself in
harm's way. Every single play could be career injuring. You
can get a career ending injury. So there's no reason
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to put yourself in the way of snaps that don't matter,
games that matter. If you told me you didn't want
to play Week two or Week three because they hit
hard on that team, then I don't want you on
my team. But at the end of the year, when
you've had a disappointing year, if this was for something else,
for all the marbles, or a chance at all the marbles,
then obviously no one's gonna turn that down. That's why
(11:17):
you play. But that's what you also But you also
have to think and be logical. What do you gain
from this? You don't gain anything. All you do is
put at risk the chance that something really bad can happen.
And for and all I would do if I was
an agent or somebody to talk to him, I would
put a video together of all these players who played
(11:40):
in these meaningless games and wind up getting hurt because
it happens more than you think. It's not like it
never happens or nobody ever gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
No, it happens. So there's no reason to do it.
But here's the thing you just said, A meaningless season. Point, Dude,
they're eight and three, they want what four or five
games this year they won like two or one game.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
The year before, oh and one because the Gellony game
they needed to win they lost.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
But that isn't But that's what you said, that's what
that's No, it's not for them. If I came to
somewhere and we got better and I've seen that we've improved,
and we went for the meaningless game that but I
hear what you're saying, that's meaningless to you, the trophy
for that, I get my own sense of pride and
odds all, I'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And nobody will cry for you when you break your leg.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And that's the risk he's choosing to take. That's why
I said, I get what you're saying. And if you're
you know, if you're Andrew Luck or something, you're like, no,
what I'm doing. I'm going straight to the NFL number
one pick. Kayla Williams didn't play. Of course you shouldn't play.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
In USC wasn't playing for anything, right, But what I'm
saying is I'm also not mad if a kid wants
to complete the thing that doesn't bother me. I sincerely
mean if a kid wants to complete the thing for
him personally, what what's the complete complete the season with
the same guys I came in with. Swore up and down.
We're gonna be for each other, swore up and down.
We're gonna fight through this thing. We want to improve,
get better and not only on the field, but off
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the field and grow.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And they built this thing. And again keep in mind,
man was my team.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I'm like, yo, I get it. Your top ten pick
in the NFL. Dude, don't come out here. Why would
you come out I would. That's a friend who's looking
out for you, who understands your circumstance. You ain't know.
Maybe I'm gonna get to the league.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You're a top ten and you're going to be a
top ten pick again, Travers Hunter.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
There there are career ending injuries that could happen. I
understand the chances of that happening probably aren't, but there
is a risk, okay, because you could get people get paralyzed,
people get concussions, all kinds of stuff that can affect you.
Is all I'm saying. Why to put yourself out there
if you don't have to.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And that's not crazy what you're saying. But I don't
think it's crazy for a kid who wants to finish. Dude,
I came to Coppler level football since I was five
or six.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
This is my last in the NFL. I'm going to
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders will be top ten picks,
regardless of anything that happens.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Say that you can't say regardless, you really can't. I
know what you're saying, and the chances of it they're
in some serious but that's no chance. What you because
they could have got hurting against Kansas. No, but you
gotta play that game.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
But then why can't I want to finish the six?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
What you're saying, you're not You're not in the college
football what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
But what I'm saying is, Okay, they went to college
here we last point.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
They went to Colorado.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
They didn't go to Alabama where like literally that's what
we played for Florida State or Michigan or Ohio State.
They were at Jackson State to prove a point that
young talented kids, black kids can go to historically black colleges.
They go to Colorado to build up a program with
with Deon Sanders. They didn't go to Alabama where they
could have or usc of these schools where hey, national
championships are really on the radar. They have improved Colorado
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drastically and they want to finish the job. I'm not
mad at them. Eight seven seven ninety nine On Fox?
Where are you on this? Should they not play? Should
they play? What make?
Speaker 8 (14:59):
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Speaker 2 (15:00):
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Put up a prayer right now. It was almost an
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we're talking about for those who don't know Deon Sanders.
He basically said his guy, Travis Hunter and his son
to show Shador Sanders are going to play. They have
(15:57):
a mission to have a thing to complete the season
in the bowl game. Rob says, heck no get and
I say, I completely could understand why they would want
to finish when they started.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Who you got, Nick?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
In Denver? You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What you gotten this?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Nick?
Speaker 9 (16:12):
So being a pretty close to the community as it's happening,
I completely understand it. I think it's almost understandable from
the sense of even though Dion would be the most
understanding person of them not playing, I think in the
same sense, they've made that decision both with him and
for him because right now there's a lot in the
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community as far as his actual reputation around town, and
I think they want to keep that at a high level.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
How would that how.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Would that be a demerit if his kids don't play
in their top ten picks in the NFL.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
Because because they've done it that they've done it. You said, though,
this is Colorado, We're not talking about a place where
you go and every year you're going, We're going to
make it to the playoff. We got the championship on
the horizon. This is a team and a school that
getting to a bowl has been an issue. That bowl
means a lot, not just to the team, like like
you said, they've built it, they've done this together as brothers,
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but the community around it. I mean, this this organization.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So you wouldn't understand that a top ten pick doesn't
want it the chance of having it.
Speaker 9 (17:16):
No, no, no, more than that, I would understand it.
I would say, I understand both sides, but to that effect,
I understand the obligation they feel to die on and
the community because this is the biggest college football has
been in the state of Colorado. I mean, name a school.
This is the biggest it's been in twenty years.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
All Right, appreciate the call. Yeah, I get what Nick saying.
I mean, that's I think it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Alice in Pittsburgh, you're on the EYD couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Alice.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Craig, how are you?
Speaker 10 (17:46):
I want to wish you happy Thanksgiving guy that I
want to say. You know, I'm an Notre Dame fan too.
Speaker 9 (17:53):
I have mixed feelings.
Speaker 10 (17:54):
About the playing in bowl games, play that he's playing,
you know, through the end of the season. And Smith
a few years ago towards ACL and NCL in the
bowl game with the who's with the High of States right,
and you know it hurt his draft stocket, probably hurt
his career a lot. That he said he would do
it all over again.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, he said, most people will say that because you know,
it didn't work out and they don't want to people
like they that they admit that they made a mistake.
But Alice, it just didn't make any sense. It just
doesn't not make any sense.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 11 (18:28):
I don't think it does.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
And you know, I think a lot of it like
this last caller, it's all about Colorado and it's all
about you know, their team and there you know, they're
what they're feeling because they haven't been in the playoffs
for a long time. They're not thinking about the players, right,
and you know they do run the risk of having
a really bad injury in ruining their careers potential career.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, and it's it just does to me.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
When did this start, though, Rock, when you went You've
been covering sports since nineteen eighty whatever, Alie, And you
never thought I cared about this. It was like never
Now just such a part of what you did.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Now it's game. They're meaningless.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
That's why they've always been nobody, I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But they were bigger back then. Nobody did not play
in the Sugar Bowl. Or now there's the the the
the levis of the Ross Dress for Less Bowl.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That you are the ambassador of the Ross Dress for Lesbie.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
They are bringing you out and before the tip off
or kickoffs, here's our President.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Park not talking about the Cotton Bowl or the Sugar Bowl.
Nobody's going to miss those. But now there are a
lot of meaningless I'm saying, always been meaning they literally
been playing the most met we Actually there's just about
the bigs get hurt and that's what stopped people found.
Speaker 12 (19:49):
Rob Parker actually had his own dress for last year
one time at the studio.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Actually, I remember that I was doing I was still
doing weekends. Yeah, you remember that. We got a big
sale coming up, really coming up. I know you can
keep thanking me by stuff too.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Hey look at it.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Hey, I got two for one, two for one when
you got new stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, I do have new stuff. Well, you don't tell
me this is I'm gonna pull the curtain back like
the Wizardvice Rob Parker.
Speaker 13 (20:11):
Before when we knew you were gonna take over for Chris,
when you Chris was leaping the secret, you didn't tell youybody,
Rob would come in. You do you know we're about
to have a big summer blowout. I'm just gonna I'm
gonna market it as a big sale. They don't know
why it's a sale.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Though, Rob, somebody's about to get one of those for
six ninety nine the topic yesterday. Rober I brought that
up on TV by the way, and to be fair,
most of the crew was with you, right, Rob.
Speaker 13 (20:36):
It's like a Lonzo ball Laker jersey, like just just
you gotta have it.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
It's okay, Yeah, he's balling, by the way, and I
mean Lamar, I mean Lamello's balling.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Lonzo's playing. That counts as That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Andrew and Bakersfield. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (20:52):
Guys?
Speaker 14 (20:52):
Okay, Rob, He said there was no reason for him
to play in the ball game, but there are more
important things in life, as you know, than money.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I don't know if he knows that. I keep trying
to tell him that, no, my.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Health in a sport where you could get hurt on
any single play. This is not like baseball or basketball,
but the chances of you being heard or injured like
that are way smaller, and you notice on every snap
of the ball as a chance somebody could be seriously.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Hurt in football.
Speaker 14 (21:27):
Okay, but players used to play three years and consider
going back for the fourth year rather than going to
the NFL. Tim Tebow did it, and I appreciate it,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Why did you appreciate it? Why would you have a
problem for a guy who went to college, is going
to be a top pick in the NFL Drive and
decides that he just wants to go and earn a living.
That's what you go to college for, right, you got
a problem with that? What's the problem that somebody wants
to leave to go earn a living for their family
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or why would you have an issue with that?
Speaker 14 (22:02):
Because there used to be a heritage.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
We don't care about what it used to be that
what doesn't make any sense. They used to make a
freshman not play Kareem dul Jabbard didn't play for what reason?
You couldn't even give anybody a.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Reason that was.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But Andrew, Andrew No, I got you, brother, I get
what you're saying. Thank you for the call. He's he's
making the same point I was making that everybody. I'm
gonna get to the back and not to imagine this kid.
You know how much money to door Center has been
making the last two three years of his life. It
doesn't make it nil doesn't. It doesn't what's making Travis
hunder be making my point?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
It doesn't matter. Your goal is to get to the
NFL going as soon as as soon as you they
tell you you're gonna be a top ten pick. I'm good.
I don't I'm going if you so.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Travis Hunter, by the way, knew that before this evening
he even started.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Why did he even play there?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
He didn't want to play. He could have not played.
He could have not played.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But I'm saying, and that's my point, I just don't
understand playing.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
It would be like, hey, hey, can we're having a
charity football game out back to raise money for the neighborhood.
Can you come out and play?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
They got a chance to Can you come in games.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Would you play in that for the community?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Would come out the community? Yeah, I'll play for the community.
Would not I play for the community all the time.
A lot of community got a chance to win ten games, right,
that's huge for them and they want to they want
to finish what they started.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I ain't mad at that. Crazy all right?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
We have h Jerry Jones wanting to keep Kevin Mike McCarthy.
Something about that. We will just break down in just
a moment right now, what's trending.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
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Speaker 4 (23:45):
You know, Jerry Jones has been first of all, every
day he talks about something new radio showy every weeks
is something else he's talking about something. Now he's talking
about coaching and obviously the struggle that they've had this season.
Folks are wondering, is Mike McCarthy a laying duck? What's
going on with that? Here's what Jerry Jones had to say.
Speaker 12 (24:04):
Is it crazy to think that at the end of
the season we could be talking about an extension for
Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Well, I don't think that's crazy at all. That's not crazy. Listen,
Mike McCarthy is one an outstanding coach. I was listened
to the game last night watching it and Haigman was
talking about and he's reiterated that several times publicly. This
Super Bowl winning coach, Mike McCarthy has been there, done that.
(24:31):
He's got great ideas. Bottom line is that no place
in my body language or anything else have you seening
indications about what we're going to be doing relative to
this staff at the end of this year, And we shouldn't.
We got a lot of football. Four six football games,
that's a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Jerry is as phony as a three dollar bill. He
is the talk about, just the absolute worst. If I
was a Dallas cowboy man, I would throw up in
my mouth. You know why because Mike McCarthy won twelve
games three years in a row, and that wasn't good
enough to get him a contract extension. But now they're
having a god awful season and this guy flowing like,
(25:15):
uh oh he got good at Dondra. Does that make sense, Calvin,
That makes no sense? Whatso on? He should have a contract.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Then he's heading his betch so that if he ends
up with him, he can say, see, I told you
I wasn't getting rid of him. And if he doesn't,
he say I never said I was fully gonna get him.
The only thing I will say to this, and you
and I talked about this with another example.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
He's one of those coaches who doesn't make you the viewer,
the fan of a team. He doesn't make you just
jump out to see like Mike Tomlin makes you kind
of hard man. I want to play for him. I'd
run through a wall for him. He doesn't elicit that
from people. But when you start breaking down the numbers,
Mike McCarthy, you brought up another guy, Sean Sean Payton,
(25:57):
who everybody has everybody gene great coach, Hall of Fame coach,
and their numbers are identical. You start to look at
the numbers, and I was breaking down some numbers. Mike
Tomlin and Mike McCarthy are almost the same guy. When
you start looking at the coaching records. Now again, for
some reason, if you ask me, if I was a player,
(26:18):
I'd rather play with Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Seems like God, I'd rather be around but.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
When you start digging into the numbers, they both got
a Super Bowl early in their careers. Mike Tomlin is
only winning forty four percent of his eighteen playoff games.
Mike McCarthy has twenty two playoff games and is eleven
eleven in those five hundred Yeah, it's five hundred. Uh,
he's won more playoff games, been and more, And so
(26:43):
you start to look at the numbers, you're like, wait,
Mike McCarthy is essentially the same, if not better. In
some cases. He wins sixty one percent of his games.
To be fair, Mike Tomlin went sixty three point you know,
four of his games, but.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It ain't that far on.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It's the same guy.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
So I said that the say it seems like Mike
McCarthy has to go. But then when you start doing
the numbers and you do this, Rob Parker, Dak Prescott
had the best season he's ever had with Mike McCarthy.
Dak Prescott, Well, you may not like him, and I
don't mean literally, but people may not like him. Don't
feel like he's the guy. He ain't going nowhere based
(27:20):
off this contract. So if I have a guy who's
who had a chance to have him twelve and five,
the best season he's ever had.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
MVP candidate that was under Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Dak Prescott this season has come out multiple times and
said it ain't Mike McCarthy's fault.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I'll run through a ball for that guy. That's my guy,
that's my coach.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, but once Jerry Jones had him as a lame
duck coach that told you all.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You needed to know. I'm just saying I can't.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
You can't win twelve games multiple times, three years in
a row, all right, Which I don't know what if
this is just a like power play, like I'm the boss.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
They were mad because of the playoff, the embarrassment playoff game.
That's why I didn't get a cont right, they got
embarrassed at home by Green Bay. Uh, and Dak did
not play well. Dak turned the ball over a few times,
gave it, gave easy scores to the Packers and all that.
But I'm just saying, this makes no sense. It's either
you signed the guy and you would have signed him
(28:17):
already rather than have him play for his job and
then say like, oh yeah, he's still having a bad
year and a terrible year. Oh there's still six games
left to play, really.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Jerry, Yeah, I mean they got dak ain't playing, got
other guys injured, you don't have running backs, which means
you're gonna be a bad team, even though they did
just get a win. So I don't know what he's
gonna do with Mike McCarthy. But I I was just
like digging. I'm like, man, how good is Mike? Because
Mike McCarthy's one of those coaches who's had a heck
of a career overall. But I look at Sean pa
You don't put him as a Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You don't put him as Sean you don't put him
as a Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Had a Hall of Fame quarterback as well, right, and
Drew Brees. They had three straight seven and nine seasons.
And don't forget Sean Payne was suspended, you know, over
the scandal whenever.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
The bounty get that hit, the yeah, where he.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Was instructing his players to hurt people. Just think about that.
How come that doesn't stick to him?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So that's like seriously, So that's why I brought up.
Was just like, man, Mike McCarthy, why even me? Even me,
I'm like, a, it's not the guy, I'd let him go.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
What about him? And it's just something about him.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You don't necessarily feel like he's the guy, even if
he's winning in Green Bay. He's just one of those
coaches you always want to be like, Eah, he ain't
the one. And but to his credit, he's you know,
he's been able to have a bunch of success. And
like I said, when you start looking at Sean Payne,
Mike Thomas, some other guys, even Pete Carroll, you started
to look at the win percentage, you started looking at
the amount of games in the playoffs and whatnot, you go like, oh,
he's forgot the same guy as them.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in eighty year.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
And yeah, so he's in a position he better get
that done this year. Obviously, so we'll see Jerry Jones
just things weird. He does it at his own pace,
his own leisure. And that's part of the reason why
the Cowboys have struggled because you, to your point, if
he's the guy, you signed the guy should have been
more years twold war year deal. Even if you have
to eat it, he ain't the guy. Maybe a little
more forceful. Hey, we gonna see what we're gonna do
(30:10):
after this season, you know, and we want to see
We want to make sure we're out here doing the
best for our team and get the best option. Maybe
you're more vocal about that, but kind of playing this
hedge and your bet thing that he's doing, I don't
think that's hurt helping anybody. Terrible Last Call eight seven
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Speaker 4 (31:11):
Rock Parker Kevin Washington one more time for us on
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boys today. Appreciate it as we inch closer and closer
to Thanksgiving. Home out there getting all of shopping. Maybe
you already got some family in town.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Anybody going shopping on Black Friday?
Speaker 8 (31:27):
You going on?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I was talking shopping for the food to cook. Oh,
the food. That's how you know.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I know you working, how you're thinking about the feud.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I just gotta get a plate. I'm gonna come buy
your house.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, get you a come, get you a plate.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
But look too far after, like a good point, you're
gonna be hustling backwards. Just get you a little Maybe
they got turkey teketos at seven eleven or something.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
You can get a little turkey teketo.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
I got a turkey. They sound like a turkey plate
at the rouse. That sounded like you were in the
line for like you know, like a line.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
It's okay.
Speaker 12 (31:58):
You make way too much money to not stop a
Whole Foods and get like their deep fried turkey or something.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I'll just get a play little you will. We'll have
that conversation tomorrow. I will have to be.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Wowsy woo woo. You know what I mean, welsy wowsy woo.
I'll go home and I'll lay on the couch after
the show, and you know I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I'm sorry you're trying to act like you're sad and everything. No,
don't do that. Don't do that, because that's what it is. Alex.
What did I do two three days ago?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I got a whole the show together. Somebody I don't
even dare come to my house.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I'm rob gen.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
This man turned down my invitation to the Washington Days Giving.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
He didn't even ask his wife. You can't do it
without asking you.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I can't argue with you on that. I cannot argue
with you.
Speaker 12 (32:41):
When she found out, I was like, I'm sorry you
asked two to come over.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Where were you on the phone with me? Alex?
Speaker 12 (32:48):
If you look actually right across there and move in
front of them.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
What's she doing today?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
That's what it would have happened. Now you gonna invite
you ain't inviting that that yeah, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I ain't gonna lie. And plus we got a bunch
of you know, I'm my family.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Here, so I'm good.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Man.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
It was like a movie, a perfect little movie, like
if you came over looking like an adorable little pumpy cousins.
Uh no, none of that coming around this time, Like, yeah,
none of that.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
They gotta be with them.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I don't know because I was twenty eight. So that's
just it.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Here's the other thing with that, too, You ain't trying
to settle down, settle down. So it's like I had
to like, hey, cousin, you want to give a rob
just for a week, How does that work?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's all that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
It might be for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, I hate cousin.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
You got you got a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, so I would. I wouldn't worked out either. All right,
we got we got last call.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
All right, it's it's last call, Last call time on
the oncome.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
And my cheese was.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Hot about breath.
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They got you the best, Oh my last call seven
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Speaker 2 (34:08):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (34:09):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (34:10):
Fellows? Thanks for having me on. Yes, sir, I'm sorry,
but I gotta talk about this Lamar nonsense. I know
you guys are big on the Ravens, they're big on Lamar,
But to me right now, he's just another job that way,
and he's just an early in his career of Payton manning.
The MVPs don't mean nothing until he gets a big dance.
(34:33):
He's just an underachiever. I respect his play, I respect
what he's done as a passer. I think that he's
proved every doubt or wrong. I just don't think that
the makeup of his team and their identity is built
for them to get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Jan I could not disagree with you more and I'll
tell you this.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It's just funny how people have painted this story for
Lamar at twenty seven years old, and people have gone
out of their way to talk about when they put
Dan Marino, who went to the Super Bowl his second year,
never went back, but he was in the conversation as
one of the all time great quarterbacks before they made
such a big deal about winning. And that doesn't mean
(35:12):
one that he can't win and he's not forty years
old and never won or whatever the whole idea. Last
year in the AFC Championship game, they lost by seven points,
had a terrible offensive game plan and held the Chiefs
scoreless in the second half. Could have easily won that game.
I mean, you make it like they got blown out.
(35:33):
He threw eight interceptions and he can't play and win
a big game. We just saw him time and time again.
Last Christmas, they went to San Francisco and what was
a big game for the MVP, right, yeah, and they
blew out the forty nine ers. There, you're right, he
hasn't won yet. But if you're gonna paint this picture
and you really believe, because I covered Michael Jordan in
(35:57):
the early days and I heard the same exact thing.
He doesn't make.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
The team better, he get win.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
He just going sixty three points against the Celtics. All
he won, but he gave win a championship and once
he started winning, they couldn't stop him from winning. Remember
this call one, because you couldn't be more wrong about
Lamar And for you to skip up ahead and have
this false narrative as if you're not watching something special,
(36:26):
then I don't know what football you're watching.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, also too, the guys he named, like Peyton Manning
ultimately won, John Lway ultimately won. They also they're telling
me I'm Lamar Jackson and I may end up with
four to five MVP two rings. Well, nagge, I'm in
the top one two three quarterbacks of all time category,
Like that's perfectly fine. If I don't win a ring
(36:51):
until I'm twenty nine, god forbid, I'm thirty. But if
along the way my team always wins ten eleven, twelve,
thirteen games, when's my team goes to the postseason like the.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Highest winning percentage since he's been in football?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And I'm winning all the time.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I'm in the postseason on time, I'm racking up MVPs
and then I finally get one.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
That's the thing to me, I don't get to me.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
The journey.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
It's a part of your career. It's the journey. Sometimes
you go if you can win the first year you
ever play, But there's a journey that goes on. And
when he finally pushes through and breaks through, people will
then you're gonna then you're gonna say what about Lamar?
Speaker 7 (37:25):
To me?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Every now and again, we can all be profits. And
what I mean by that is we can see Lebron
and go, oh, he's gonna win. No, but no, it
doesn't matter how he went. Somebody Okay, Well, the fact
is we knew he was gonna win. That what was
Miami Jason Tatum claimed that he wasn't gonna win. That's
what they kept saying. You can see certain people who
keep what was Jason Tatum doing? He kept putting himself
(37:47):
in position playing the Eastern Conference loss of the Warriors. Tatum,
they can win all the regular season game they won.
That's good and we all went, oh, he's gonna win,
gonna win. So my is I'm looking at Lamar Jackson
and if this is just his norm, I'm gonna win
eleven twelve games, gonna be right in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'm gonna be this talent and special to me.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
The math has already written he's going to win one
because he's keep going to have cracks at it and
he's gonna bust the door wide open. One of these
way to too talented. He's too young, and he's too unique.
Nobody this unique, you know, and this talented offen like
if Mike Vic put in the working dedication to Lamar.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Maybe he gets one as well, and we need to
check on one because he probably crashed his car in
pennsil Tucky.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Don't do him like all
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Right, Hey, wor'sa Wednesday, and we gotta go over the
states giving plates tomorrow too,
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that we had. We will allow someone to have the
last say on this very uh program.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yep, if it's Mace, he's gonna take the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
The whole time I thought Mason, I thought we had
a bond, and he just trashed. He couldn't say anything.
He like that, stockpiled all this stuff and you know
for years. Yeah, holds on to it.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah that I was Barker twenty twenty one. You said
this like he'd been keeping notes.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
He got the seats, he said, I'm in Derek Judi's
back pocket all the sun wrong. He won five.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
World Series, right, was it five or four? Five?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Five?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Five?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah? Four and nineties and then one later.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, oh nine, Yeah, pretty doing impressive.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
He's al right, all right, just slightly overrated.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
He's got the sixth most hits in the history of baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
He's fifty two.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
No, I played twenty years, but that's that's normal in
baseball to play.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Not that normal.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah about Dave Winfield played twenty like a lot of
guys can play.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Listen, I'm just teasing, but the people do. I mean,
that's cool.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
He has more than anything. Michael Jordan's up there, Derek
Jeter as far as just made the clutch play at
the right moment. So that is what they being endurance.
Sometimes people forget that. Let me tell you some people.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Let me hit the home run on November first, and
they held up the sign.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Mister November. I mean, like he's had his most glass hit.
I mean the home run.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
How was at that game against David Price. Well, he
got the last hit on his last that bat. His
three thousand hit was a home run.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's from it.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, I mean just he just and obviously the little
toss to home in the playoffs, like he's just and
they say something that you only get a first time
to make a first impression. And to his credit, he
made so many clutch plays early on you kind of
just went all that to him. And I use the
example of Lebron Shina from the moment maybe not showing
up early to the point where he's been clutched now
(03:04):
for the most part for like a decade. But in
your mind, hey, that's just not him because the first
few times I saw him, he didn't necessarily show But
that's just the thing about life in general. So Derek
Jeter is opposite. He showed up, made huge plays, and
just that's kind of all you remember.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You don't like.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Hayli Manning, you know what I'm saying, Like Eli with
the signature throws in the big Super Bowl to win.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
All right, well let's talk about that's gonna be our
great debate, like on our last show.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Whatever that may be, that's gonna be the last one.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
If you keep talking about it might be three more months.
I'm just epic battle right there. It'd be like, let's
go out one more time when more bet Look like, Rob,
I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, that contract,
it was hitting for a little bit. I can't lie
you know, you know it was nice.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
What you say?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You got a nine year Come wait a minute, I
need to talk to the.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Ball you know.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
First all, I wouldn't do nine year contract, believe it
or not, with anything. That's just I would hyperventilate nine
years other than marriage now and she lucky.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I like her.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I ain't even say love. I like her meaning I
like being around you could love somebody that boy. I
wish you could go and get a life and going somewhere.
I like being around my wife. That's cool. I like,
I don't like you being around my wife with having
screenshots of her.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
What that was?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
But you did not delete it yet.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's just deleted. It's deleted. It's not on my phone.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That was hit and roll. Let me check it was. Yeah,
that man, gonna tell me yeah. Man, it was crazy. Man.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I was trying to the Instagram story and then her birthday
screen shot and I saved it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean, oops, I deleted it. Yeah you lucky or
what listen? You lucky? My wife is attractive.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And I'm like, I've had to deal with that now
for so long, so I'm okay with it every now
and again. I've had a couple family members I'm like, yeah, man,
I think the lions and then hey, look look at
me in the eyes, like are.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You looking over here? Over here? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
All right, Well let's talk some college football. We know
Colorado they choked.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It was a big game, Yeah they did.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
They had an opportunity, and an opportunity like everybody was like,
oh wow, Colorado's gonna get They're in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
All they gotta do is beat this h who they
playing kan Kansas. And they were four and they had
but they had a losing record.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
They did, and they all of a sudden, Kansas had
a nerd to think they were Yeah they were four
and uh six at the time, yes, right.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Uh And then but they won a couple of big
games despite their record.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Is YU the week before then beat Colorado.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Right, and b why you and Colorado were right in
the lead, but they were in the lead for the
for the conference. But anyway, so the big thing is uh.
Deon Sanders talked about of course his son Shador and Hunter,
Travis Hunter and Travis Hunter about them not UH. People
were asking whether or not they're going to play in
(05:44):
the bowl game. Right if they're not in the college
football playoffs, they just have a regular bowl game, and
Dion was asked, would they play in it?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
If it's a meaningless game.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Ball Buffs Nation has loved the ride, especially with this
great season with schedu in Travis, but with the Big
twelve title game in doubt. Will this be the last
time fans see them in the Buffs uniform?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
No, we had a bowl game.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I'm pretty sure we secured that weeks ago for Peggy,
So no, it's not the last time you're going to
see them in a Buffy uniform. We're gonna fight and
try to go out there and kick some butt and
end this thing on the right note. And we're gonna
go to a bowl game and end this thing on
the right note because our fans deserve the absolute best.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Sorry, I'm not with it. I'm not with top picks, right,
they're gonna be first round picks, right, top t Are
they top ten?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Top ten?
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
To ten? Okay, you're gonna go to someone and two
meaningless bowl game and get jack or hurt. We've seen
it happen players who are playing meaningless bowl games. Who
was a Jake Budd with Michigan? Yeah, right, didn't they?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Brody would break a.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Litle hurt, right, Like it's not like uncut? Yeah, Jaylen Smith,
Oh yeah, Jaylen Smith.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
There's a number there's a number of guys where this
has happened to. And I get it if they were
playing in the college football playoffs. Of course you're gonna play.
That's what you play for. But everybody makes so if
you win six games, you had Bowl eligible, you know,
like really you're gonna put their careers in jeopardy to
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play in a meaningless game. That's what it is. And
that there's no Let the other kids play. Aren't there
other kids there where I'm probably played all year? No,
let them play.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
You can't do me like it's put me in No, no, no, no,
little Timmy who ain't played all.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Seasons him play. I think this is a mistake. I
don't think these kids, they have their futures, they don't
owe any body anything else for a meaningless game that
you're not winning. A Now, if you told me that
they're not playing in a college football playoffs today, I
don't want to get heard. Or they're gonna be top
ten picks. I got a problem with that, not this,
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not at all.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
So here's where you're right. Here's where you're wrong. You
are right in theory. Right, you're top player, top pick,
You're going to some enterprise ball or something that doesn't
really mean anything.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I get it. I hear you.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Go ahead, young man, go get paid. Do you think
here's where you're wrong. You're wrong, specifically in this instance
with the Colorado Buffalos, because Deon Sanders has preached more
than just football. And if you're a chaduor you literally
have heard this your whole life, not just your college
football life, your whole entire life, about principle, about integrity,
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about family, about unity, about something more than just simply
you money and fame. And he has been preaching that
his entire career, his whole life to Shadur and out
of Mavin Travis Hunter, who he's had with him now
for years and years and years, and who looks at
like a son. There is something to Rob Parker as well.
I do think we forget sometimes you actually do want
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to finish a thing, and I think this needs to
be optional. Like I hear what you're saying, which is
why I said, you're right if that's what a kid
wants to do. But I don't think a kid should
be looked at as lunus, lunacy or crazy if they
want to finish something. I've been sitting here peaching every man.
Next year you left for your right, it's us and
us and and then all of a sudden, oh wait, no,
it's not a because you might go do this, and
you might go do that. And if a kid chooses
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to say, hey, man, I want to finish this thing
with my brothers, finish this thing with the guys I
came with. We've all put in the same blood, sweat
and tears, sacrifice from family from this, from girlfriends from that,
and we've built this thing up. Man, Colorado was triz
ash a couple of years ago, and now they've been
the talk of the town, if you will, for the
last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You've seen the program build up.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
This is your last experience in college for what period
or now the expectations change because you're making millions and
millions in your this and then you got the NFL.
I don't I'm not mad if the young guys want
to do that. And the last point, Travis Hunter is
so good. Sat Shador Sanders are so good they can
go out there and break a leg and still get
drafted Travis. So let me tell you something. Travis Hunter
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could literally god forbid, could get hurt. I'll just put
it that way. He will still be a top ten pick.
He's that good. And when you got that in the
back of your bag and your back pocket too, then
I understand why you be like, no, I want to
finish thing playing with my boys, finish this thing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Not to mention, I'm still gonna be a top ten pick.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, I disagree. In the meaningless game, if you're playing
for something, I get it. It's it's a meaningless nothing,
It's a nothing burger. You get nothing for it. All
you do is waste your time and put yourself in
harm's way. Every single play could be career injuring. You
can get a career ending injury. So there's no reason
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to put yourself in the way of snaps that don't matter,
games that matter. If you told me you didn't want
to play Week two or Week three because they hit
hard on that team, then I don't want you on
my team. But at the end of the year, when
you've had a disappointing year, if this was for something else,
for all the marbles, or a chance at all the marbles,
then obviously no one's gonna turn that down. That's why
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you play. But that's what you also But you also
have to think and be logical. What do you gain
from this? You don't gain anything. All you do is
put at risk the chance that something really bad can happen.
And for and all I would do if I was
an agent or somebody to talk to him, I would
put a video together of all these players who played
(11:40):
in these meaningless games and wind up getting hurt because
it happens more than you think. It's not like it
never happens or nobody ever gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
No, it happens. So there's no reason to do it.
But here's the thing you just said, A meaningless season. Point, Dude,
they're eight and three, they want what four or five
games this year they won like two or one game.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
The year before, oh and one because the Gellony game
they needed to win they lost.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
But that isn't But that's what you said, that's what
that's No, it's not for them. If I came to
somewhere and we got better and I've seen that we've improved,
and we went for the meaningless game that but I
hear what you're saying, that's meaningless to you, the trophy
for that, I get my own sense of pride and
odds all, I'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And nobody will cry for you when you break your leg.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And that's the risk he's choosing to take. That's why
I said, I get what you're saying. And if you're
you know, if you're Andrew Luck or something, you're like, no,
what I'm doing. I'm going straight to the NFL number
one pick. Kayla Williams didn't play. Of course you shouldn't play.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
In USC wasn't playing for anything, right, But what I'm
saying is I'm also not mad if a kid wants
to complete the thing that doesn't bother me. I sincerely
mean if a kid wants to complete the thing for
him personally, what what's the complete complete the season with
the same guys I came in with. Swore up and down.
We're gonna be for each other, swore up and down.
We're gonna fight through this thing. We want to improve,
get better and not only on the field, but off
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the field and grow.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And they built this thing. And again keep in mind,
man was my team.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I'm like, yo, I get it. Your top ten pick
in the NFL. Dude, don't come out here. Why would
you come out I would. That's a friend who's looking
out for you, who understands your circumstance. You ain't know.
Maybe I'm gonna get to the league.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You're a top ten and you're going to be a
top ten pick again, Travers Hunter.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
There there are career ending injuries that could happen. I
understand the chances of that happening probably aren't, but there
is a risk, okay, because you could get people get paralyzed,
people get concussions, all kinds of stuff that can affect you.
Is all I'm saying. Why to put yourself out there
if you don't have to.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And that's not crazy what you're saying. But I don't
think it's crazy for a kid who wants to finish. Dude,
I came to Coppler level football since I was five
or six.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
This is my last in the NFL. I'm going to
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders will be top ten picks,
regardless of anything that happens.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Say that you can't say regardless, you really can't. I
know what you're saying, and the chances of it they're
in some serious but that's no chance. What you because
they could have got hurting against Kansas. No, but you
gotta play that game.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
But then why can't I want to finish the six?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
What you're saying, you're not You're not in the college
football what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
But what I'm saying is, Okay, they went to college
here we last point.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
They went to Colorado.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
They didn't go to Alabama where like literally that's what
we played for Florida State or Michigan or Ohio State.
They were at Jackson State to prove a point that
young talented kids, black kids can go to historically black colleges.
They go to Colorado to build up a program with
with Deon Sanders. They didn't go to Alabama where they
could have or usc of these schools where hey, national
championships are really on the radar. They have improved Colorado
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drastically and they want to finish the job. I'm not
mad at them. Eight seven seven ninety nine On Fox?
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we're talking about for those who don't know Deon Sanders.
He basically said his guy, Travis Hunter and his son
to show Shador Sanders are going to play. They have
(15:57):
a mission to have a thing to complete the season
in the bowl game. Rob says, heck no get and
I say, I completely could understand why they would want
to finish when they started.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Who you got, Nick?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
In Denver? You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What you gotten this?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Nick?
Speaker 9 (16:12):
So being a pretty close to the community as it's happening,
I completely understand it. I think it's almost understandable from
the sense of even though Dion would be the most
understanding person of them not playing, I think in the
same sense, they've made that decision both with him and
for him because right now there's a lot in the
(16:32):
community as far as his actual reputation around town, and
I think they want to keep that at a high level.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
How would that how.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Would that be a demerit if his kids don't play
in their top ten picks in the NFL.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
Because because they've done it that they've done it. You said, though,
this is Colorado, We're not talking about a place where
you go and every year you're going, We're going to
make it to the playoff. We got the championship on
the horizon. This is a team and a school that
getting to a bowl has been an issue. That bowl
means a lot, not just to the team, like like
you said, they've built it, they've done this together as brothers,
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but the community around it. I mean, this this organization.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So you wouldn't understand that a top ten pick doesn't
want it the chance of having it.
Speaker 9 (17:16):
No, no, no, more than that, I would understand it.
I would say, I understand both sides, but to that effect,
I understand the obligation they feel to die on and
the community because this is the biggest college football has
been in the state of Colorado. I mean, name a school.
This is the biggest it's been in twenty years.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
All Right, appreciate the call. Yeah, I get what Nick saying.
I mean, that's I think it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Alice in Pittsburgh, you're on the EYD couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Alice.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Craig, how are you?
Speaker 10 (17:46):
I want to wish you happy Thanksgiving guy that I
want to say. You know, I'm an Notre Dame fan too.
Speaker 9 (17:53):
I have mixed feelings.
Speaker 10 (17:54):
About the playing in bowl games, play that he's playing,
you know, through the end of the season. And Smith
a few years ago towards ACL and NCL in the
bowl game with the who's with the High of States right,
and you know it hurt his draft stocket, probably hurt
his career a lot. That he said he would do
it all over again.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, he said, most people will say that because you know,
it didn't work out and they don't want to people
like they that they admit that they made a mistake.
But Alice, it just didn't make any sense. It just
doesn't not make any sense.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 11 (18:28):
I don't think it does.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
And you know, I think a lot of it like
this last caller, it's all about Colorado and it's all
about you know, their team and there you know, they're
what they're feeling because they haven't been in the playoffs
for a long time. They're not thinking about the players, right,
and you know they do run the risk of having
a really bad injury in ruining their careers potential career.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, and it's it just does to me.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
When did this start, though, Rock, when you went You've
been covering sports since nineteen eighty whatever, Alie, And you
never thought I cared about this. It was like never
Now just such a part of what you did.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Now it's game. They're meaningless.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
That's why they've always been nobody, I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But they were bigger back then. Nobody did not play
in the Sugar Bowl. Or now there's the the the
the levis of the Ross Dress for Less Bowl.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That you are the ambassador of the Ross Dress for Lesbie.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
They are bringing you out and before the tip off
or kickoffs, here's our President.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Park not talking about the Cotton Bowl or the Sugar Bowl.
Nobody's going to miss those. But now there are a
lot of meaningless I'm saying, always been meaning they literally
been playing the most met we Actually there's just about
the bigs get hurt and that's what stopped people found.
Speaker 12 (19:49):
Rob Parker actually had his own dress for last year
one time at the studio.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Actually, I remember that I was doing I was still
doing weekends. Yeah, you remember that. We got a big
sale coming up, really coming up. I know you can
keep thanking me by stuff too.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Hey look at it.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Hey, I got two for one, two for one when
you got new stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, I do have new stuff. Well, you don't tell
me this is I'm gonna pull the curtain back like
the Wizardvice Rob Parker.
Speaker 13 (20:11):
Before when we knew you were gonna take over for Chris,
when you Chris was leaping the secret, you didn't tell youybody,
Rob would come in. You do you know we're about
to have a big summer blowout. I'm just gonna I'm
gonna market it as a big sale. They don't know
why it's a sale.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Though, Rob, somebody's about to get one of those for
six ninety nine the topic yesterday. Rober I brought that
up on TV by the way, and to be fair,
most of the crew was with you, right, Rob.
Speaker 13 (20:36):
It's like a Lonzo ball Laker jersey, like just just
you gotta have it.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
It's okay, Yeah, he's balling, by the way, and I
mean Lamar, I mean Lamello's balling.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Lonzo's playing. That counts as That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Andrew and Bakersfield. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (20:52):
Guys?
Speaker 14 (20:52):
Okay, Rob, He said there was no reason for him
to play in the ball game, but there are more
important things in life, as you know, than money.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I don't know if he knows that. I keep trying
to tell him that, no, my.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Health in a sport where you could get hurt on
any single play. This is not like baseball or basketball,
but the chances of you being heard or injured like
that are way smaller, and you notice on every snap
of the ball as a chance somebody could be seriously.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Hurt in football.
Speaker 14 (21:27):
Okay, but players used to play three years and consider
going back for the fourth year rather than going to
the NFL. Tim Tebow did it, and I appreciate it,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Why did you appreciate it? Why would you have a
problem for a guy who went to college, is going
to be a top pick in the NFL Drive and
decides that he just wants to go and earn a living.
That's what you go to college for, right, you got
a problem with that? What's the problem that somebody wants
to leave to go earn a living for their family
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or why would you have an issue with that?
Speaker 14 (22:02):
Because there used to be a heritage.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
We don't care about what it used to be that
what doesn't make any sense. They used to make a
freshman not play Kareem dul Jabbard didn't play for what reason?
You couldn't even give anybody a.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Reason that was.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But Andrew, Andrew No, I got you, brother, I get
what you're saying. Thank you for the call. He's he's
making the same point I was making that everybody. I'm
gonna get to the back and not to imagine this kid.
You know how much money to door Center has been
making the last two three years of his life. It
doesn't make it nil doesn't. It doesn't what's making Travis
hunder be making my point?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
It doesn't matter. Your goal is to get to the
NFL going as soon as as soon as you they
tell you you're gonna be a top ten pick. I'm good.
I don't I'm going if you so.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Travis Hunter, by the way, knew that before this evening
he even started.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Why did he even play there?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
He didn't want to play. He could have not played.
He could have not played.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But I'm saying, and that's my point, I just don't
understand playing.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
It would be like, hey, hey, can we're having a
charity football game out back to raise money for the neighborhood.
Can you come out and play?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
They got a chance to Can you come in games.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Would you play in that for the community?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Would come out the community? Yeah, I'll play for the community.
Would not I play for the community all the time.
A lot of community got a chance to win ten games, right,
that's huge for them and they want to they want
to finish what they started.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I ain't mad at that. Crazy all right?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
We have h Jerry Jones wanting to keep Kevin Mike McCarthy.
Something about that. We will just break down in just
a moment right now, what's trending.
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Speaker 4 (23:45):
You know, Jerry Jones has been first of all, every
day he talks about something new radio showy every weeks
is something else he's talking about something. Now he's talking
about coaching and obviously the struggle that they've had this season.
Folks are wondering, is Mike McCarthy a laying duck? What's
going on with that? Here's what Jerry Jones had to say.
Speaker 12 (24:04):
Is it crazy to think that at the end of
the season we could be talking about an extension for
Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Well, I don't think that's crazy at all. That's not crazy. Listen,
Mike McCarthy is one an outstanding coach. I was listened
to the game last night watching it and Haigman was
talking about and he's reiterated that several times publicly. This
Super Bowl winning coach, Mike McCarthy has been there, done that.
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He's got great ideas. Bottom line is that no place
in my body language or anything else have you seening
indications about what we're going to be doing relative to
this staff at the end of this year, And we shouldn't.
We got a lot of football. Four six football games,
that's a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Jerry is as phony as a three dollar bill. He
is the talk about, just the absolute worst. If I
was a Dallas cowboy man, I would throw up in
my mouth. You know why because Mike McCarthy won twelve
games three years in a row, and that wasn't good
enough to get him a contract extension. But now they're
having a god awful season and this guy flowing like,
(25:15):
uh oh he got good at Dondra. Does that make sense, Calvin,
That makes no sense? Whatso on? He should have a contract.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Then he's heading his betch so that if he ends
up with him, he can say, see, I told you
I wasn't getting rid of him. And if he doesn't,
he say I never said I was fully gonna get him.
The only thing I will say to this, and you
and I talked about this with another example.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
He's one of those coaches who doesn't make you the viewer,
the fan of a team. He doesn't make you just
jump out to see like Mike Tomlin makes you kind
of hard man. I want to play for him. I'd
run through a wall for him. He doesn't elicit that
from people. But when you start breaking down the numbers,
Mike McCarthy, you brought up another guy, Sean Sean Payton,
(25:57):
who everybody has everybody gene great coach, Hall of Fame coach,
and their numbers are identical. You start to look at
the numbers, and I was breaking down some numbers. Mike
Tomlin and Mike McCarthy are almost the same guy. When
you start looking at the coaching records. Now again, for
some reason, if you ask me, if I was a player,
(26:18):
I'd rather play with Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Seems like God, I'd rather be around but.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
When you start digging into the numbers, they both got
a Super Bowl early in their careers. Mike Tomlin is
only winning forty four percent of his eighteen playoff games.
Mike McCarthy has twenty two playoff games and is eleven
eleven in those five hundred Yeah, it's five hundred. Uh,
he's won more playoff games, been and more, And so
(26:43):
you start to look at the numbers, you're like, wait,
Mike McCarthy is essentially the same, if not better. In
some cases. He wins sixty one percent of his games.
To be fair, Mike Tomlin went sixty three point you know,
four of his games, but.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It ain't that far on.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It's the same guy.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
So I said that the say it seems like Mike
McCarthy has to go. But then when you start doing
the numbers and you do this, Rob Parker, Dak Prescott
had the best season he's ever had with Mike McCarthy.
Dak Prescott, Well, you may not like him, and I
don't mean literally, but people may not like him. Don't
feel like he's the guy. He ain't going nowhere based
(27:20):
off this contract. So if I have a guy who's
who had a chance to have him twelve and five,
the best season he's ever had.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
MVP candidate that was under Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Dak Prescott this season has come out multiple times and
said it ain't Mike McCarthy's fault.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I'll run through a ball for that guy. That's my guy,
that's my coach.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, but once Jerry Jones had him as a lame
duck coach that told you all.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You needed to know. I'm just saying I can't.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
You can't win twelve games multiple times, three years in
a row, all right, Which I don't know what if
this is just a like power play, like I'm the boss.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
They were mad because of the playoff, the embarrassment playoff game.
That's why I didn't get a cont right, they got
embarrassed at home by Green Bay. Uh, and Dak did
not play well. Dak turned the ball over a few times,
gave it, gave easy scores to the Packers and all that.
But I'm just saying, this makes no sense. It's either
you signed the guy and you would have signed him
(28:17):
already rather than have him play for his job and
then say like, oh yeah, he's still having a bad
year and a terrible year. Oh there's still six games
left to play, really.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Jerry, Yeah, I mean they got dak ain't playing, got
other guys injured, you don't have running backs, which means
you're gonna be a bad team, even though they did
just get a win. So I don't know what he's
gonna do with Mike McCarthy. But I I was just
like digging. I'm like, man, how good is Mike? Because
Mike McCarthy's one of those coaches who's had a heck
of a career overall. But I look at Sean pa
You don't put him as a Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You don't put him as Sean you don't put him
as a Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Had a Hall of Fame quarterback as well, right, and
Drew Brees. They had three straight seven and nine seasons.
And don't forget Sean Payne was suspended, you know, over
the scandal whenever.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
The bounty get that hit, the yeah, where he.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Was instructing his players to hurt people. Just think about that.
How come that doesn't stick to him?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So that's like seriously, So that's why I brought up.
Was just like, man, Mike McCarthy, why even me? Even me,
I'm like, a, it's not the guy, I'd let him go.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
What about him? And it's just something about him.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You don't necessarily feel like he's the guy, even if
he's winning in Green Bay. He's just one of those
coaches you always want to be like, Eah, he ain't
the one. And but to his credit, he's you know,
he's been able to have a bunch of success. And
like I said, when you start looking at Sean Payne,
Mike Thomas, some other guys, even Pete Carroll, you started
to look at the win percentage, you started looking at
the amount of games in the playoffs and whatnot, you go like, oh,
he's forgot the same guy as them.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in eighty year.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
And yeah, so he's in a position he better get
that done this year. Obviously, so we'll see Jerry Jones
just things weird. He does it at his own pace,
his own leisure. And that's part of the reason why
the Cowboys have struggled because you, to your point, if
he's the guy, you signed the guy should have been
more years twold war year deal. Even if you have
to eat it, he ain't the guy. Maybe a little
more forceful. Hey, we gonna see what we're gonna do
(30:10):
after this season, you know, and we want to see
We want to make sure we're out here doing the
best for our team and get the best option. Maybe
you're more vocal about that, but kind of playing this
hedge and your bet thing that he's doing, I don't
think that's hurt helping anybody. Terrible Last Call eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. Eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. I'll say it one more time. Eight seven
seven ninet nine on Fox. Get your last call. If
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(30:31):
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we want to hear from you. It is Rob Parker
Kelvin Washington on a trash talking Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
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Speaker 8 (30:39):
This is the last.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
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(31:04):
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Speaker 2 (31:07):
Live Fox Sports Radio. It is the Odd Couple.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Rock Parker Kevin Washington one more time for us on
a trash talking Tuesday. Thank you for rocking with your
boys today. Appreciate it as we inch closer and closer
to Thanksgiving. Home out there getting all of shopping. Maybe
you already got some family in town.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Anybody going shopping on Black Friday?
Speaker 8 (31:27):
You going on?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I was talking shopping for the food to cook. Oh,
the food. That's how you know.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I know you working, how you're thinking about the feud.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I just gotta get a plate. I'm gonna come buy
your house.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, get you a come, get you a plate.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
But look too far after, like a good point, you're
gonna be hustling backwards. Just get you a little Maybe
they got turkey teketos at seven eleven or something.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
You can get a little turkey teketo.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
I got a turkey. They sound like a turkey plate
at the rouse. That sounded like you were in the
line for like you know, like a line.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
It's okay.
Speaker 12 (31:58):
You make way too much money to not stop a
Whole Foods and get like their deep fried turkey or something.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I'll just get a play little you will. We'll have
that conversation tomorrow. I will have to be.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Wowsy woo woo. You know what I mean, welsy wowsy woo.
I'll go home and I'll lay on the couch after
the show, and you know I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I'm sorry you're trying to act like you're sad and everything. No,
don't do that. Don't do that, because that's what it is. Alex.
What did I do two three days ago?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I got a whole the show together. Somebody I don't
even dare come to my house.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I'm rob gen.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
This man turned down my invitation to the Washington Days Giving.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
He didn't even ask his wife. You can't do it
without asking you.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I can't argue with you on that. I cannot argue
with you.
Speaker 12 (32:41):
When she found out, I was like, I'm sorry you
asked two to come over.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Where were you on the phone with me? Alex?
Speaker 12 (32:48):
If you look actually right across there and move in
front of them.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
What's she doing today?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
That's what it would have happened. Now you gonna invite
you ain't inviting that that yeah, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I ain't gonna lie. And plus we got a bunch
of you know, I'm my family.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Here, so I'm good.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Man.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
It was like a movie, a perfect little movie, like
if you came over looking like an adorable little pumpy cousins.
Uh no, none of that coming around this time, Like, yeah,
none of that.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
They gotta be with them.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I don't know because I was twenty eight. So that's
just it.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Here's the other thing with that, too, You ain't trying
to settle down, settle down. So it's like I had
to like, hey, cousin, you want to give a rob
just for a week, How does that work?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's all that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
It might be for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, I hate cousin.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
You got you got a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, so I would. I wouldn't worked out either. All right,
we got we got last call.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
All right, it's it's last call, Last call time on
the oncome.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
And my cheese was.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Hot about breath.
Speaker 15 (33:57):
They got you the best, Oh my last call seven
ninety nine on Fox Who we got one in pencil
talk on You're the last call on the Odd couple.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (34:09):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (34:10):
Fellows? Thanks for having me on. Yes, sir, I'm sorry,
but I gotta talk about this Lamar nonsense. I know
you guys are big on the Ravens, they're big on Lamar,
But to me right now, he's just another job that way,
and he's just an early in his career of Payton manning.
The MVPs don't mean nothing until he gets a big dance.
(34:33):
He's just an underachiever. I respect his play, I respect
what he's done as a passer. I think that he's
proved every doubt or wrong. I just don't think that
the makeup of his team and their identity is built
for them to get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Jan I could not disagree with you more and I'll
tell you this.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It's just funny how people have painted this story for
Lamar at twenty seven years old, and people have gone
out of their way to talk about when they put
Dan Marino, who went to the Super Bowl his second year,
never went back, but he was in the conversation as
one of the all time great quarterbacks before they made
such a big deal about winning. And that doesn't mean
(35:12):
one that he can't win and he's not forty years
old and never won or whatever the whole idea. Last
year in the AFC Championship game, they lost by seven points,
had a terrible offensive game plan and held the Chiefs
scoreless in the second half. Could have easily won that game.
I mean, you make it like they got blown out.
(35:33):
He threw eight interceptions and he can't play and win
a big game. We just saw him time and time again.
Last Christmas, they went to San Francisco and what was
a big game for the MVP, right, yeah, and they
blew out the forty nine ers. There, you're right, he
hasn't won yet. But if you're gonna paint this picture
and you really believe, because I covered Michael Jordan in
(35:57):
the early days and I heard the same exact thing.
He doesn't make.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
The team better, he get win.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
He just going sixty three points against the Celtics. All
he won, but he gave win a championship and once
he started winning, they couldn't stop him from winning. Remember
this call one, because you couldn't be more wrong about
Lamar And for you to skip up ahead and have
this false narrative as if you're not watching something special,
(36:26):
then I don't know what football you're watching.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, also too, the guys he named, like Peyton Manning
ultimately won, John Lway ultimately won. They also they're telling
me I'm Lamar Jackson and I may end up with
four to five MVP two rings. Well, nagge, I'm in
the top one two three quarterbacks of all time category,
Like that's perfectly fine. If I don't win a ring
(36:51):
until I'm twenty nine, god forbid, I'm thirty. But if
along the way my team always wins ten eleven, twelve,
thirteen games, when's my team goes to the postseason like the.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Highest winning percentage since he's been in football?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And I'm winning all the time.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I'm in the postseason on time, I'm racking up MVPs
and then I finally get one.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
That's the thing to me, I don't get to me.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
The journey.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
It's a part of your career. It's the journey. Sometimes
you go if you can win the first year you
ever play, But there's a journey that goes on. And
when he finally pushes through and breaks through, people will
then you're gonna then you're gonna say what about Lamar?
Speaker 7 (37:25):
To me?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Every now and again, we can all be profits. And
what I mean by that is we can see Lebron
and go, oh, he's gonna win. No, but no, it
doesn't matter how he went. Somebody Okay, Well, the fact
is we knew he was gonna win. That what was
Miami Jason Tatum claimed that he wasn't gonna win. That's
what they kept saying. You can see certain people who
keep what was Jason Tatum doing? He kept putting himself
(37:47):
in position playing the Eastern Conference loss of the Warriors. Tatum,
they can win all the regular season game they won.
That's good and we all went, oh, he's gonna win,
gonna win. So my is I'm looking at Lamar Jackson
and if this is just his norm, I'm gonna win
eleven twelve games, gonna be right in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'm gonna be this talent and special to me.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
The math has already written he's going to win one
because he's keep going to have cracks at it and
he's gonna bust the door wide open. One of these
way to too talented. He's too young, and he's too unique.
Nobody this unique, you know, and this talented offen like
if Mike Vic put in the working dedication to Lamar.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Maybe he gets one as well, and we need to
check on one because he probably crashed his car in
pennsil Tucky.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Don't do him like all
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Right, Hey, wor'sa Wednesday, and we gotta go over the
states giving plates tomorrow too,
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