December 5, 2022 • 37 mins
Chris and Rob provide up-to-the-minute analysis of the Monday Night game between the New Orleans Saints and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, discuss the notion that Deion Sanders turned his back on HBCUs by leaving Jackson State for the University of Colorado, argue about Sanders’ conflicting transfer portal comments, and explain why Deshaun Watson’s ugly return to the field went just as they expected it to go.
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a three hour show. You are locked in with Chris
and Rob The Couple. Robs so far a bit pedestrian
in Tampa Bay. I'm not that surprised. I gotta be honest.
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Tampa's up three zero and they've been struggling to score points.
The only team that thinks Tampa scores a lot is Denver,
So I'm not surprised that says. That says all you
need to know, right, They're like, man, they run up
the scoreboard, score three in the first half. Get about
the game. But yeah, so there there. Will keep you
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updated with the Monday night game, New Orleans Marching. I
guess I can say that Marching UM rob story over
the weekend. Deon Sanders, who've done such a great job
at Jackson State UM. They are undefeated. They won the
Swack Conference and beat Southern in the championship on Saturday,
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robbed a little. My grandparents went to Southern University in
Baton Rouge is HBCU and Baton Rouge several cousins who
went there as well, and my grandfather, believe it or not,
was the reason that they had night school at Southern
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because he went to LSU to go to night school
and they wouldn't let him because he's black, and so
they created a separate but equal right supposedly, so they
created an equal opportunity at the local HBCU Southern Ye,
that's interesting, Chris. By the way, you talked about Dion
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wanting the swamp, you know what that stands for? Southwest
Athletic Conference, No, somewhere around Colorado. I'm just want you
to know that. That's why I got mad when they
said he's not swack. Right, So that's the big deal. Rob.
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He's leaving Jackson State to go to Colorado, which, yeah,
they're bad. Now where were they wanting eleven this year?
And that's when they hired new coaches? Is when teams
are bad, right, I just hate to break it to people.
And well, I remember, remember twenty years ago they won,
not as roughly twenty five years ago something. They won
the national championship with Bill McCartney late nineties I believe
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it was mid nineties, late nineties. But yeah, I mean
that that's a program where if he does I mean,
if he turned it around, I mean they'd be in
the mix. Right. It's not like you're going somewhere where
you got no Look the recruits you got to go
to Jackson stay right right now, you're in the PAC twelve, right,
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I mean, no, if he does as good a job,
then they're gonna be good. And I know people are
pushing back. Always a sell out, he's leaving the age back. Yeah,
some African Americans are pushing back. Here, here's dionoing that rock.
The thing that alarms me the most is just because
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I'm leaving Jackson, to think that I'm leaving African Americans.
I don't know if you notice not, but I'm black.
I can never leave who I am or what I am,
or how I am and how I going about being that.
So it is still my task of looking in that
locker room and see sixty five to seventy percent of
African American men trying to help him get to the
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next level, as well as all the others. My calling
is for young men, young women, and people of all
walks of life, all social climates, and all ethnicities. That's
my calling. My calling is not built on a little location.
He's built on the destination. Now, that was good. You're
supposed to clap for that. Some of my good stuff
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we just we just getting started, already went in the bag. Baby,
let's go. What was that I siding? I hope those
weren't reporters clapping. I mean you know what I mean, like, well,
that was like that conference, but it was more than reporters.
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
you're right, reporters, what are your thoughts on this? Right?
I have no issue with this. Uh, people should look
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at Christie came to Jackson Stays, done a fantastic job.
He built that program up, got sponsors to build better
facilities for that school, and and he set up another coach,
Chris Black coach to come in and replace him and
have something to work with. He doesn't have to stay
there his whole life or only coach HBCUs. I mean,
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if there was another opportunity that was great at an
HBCU didn't find but that, But but to make him
feel like he's done something wrong because he went, got
an opportunity, built on it, recruited some great players, got money,
you know, delivered to the school Chris and built something
down there that somebody else can take and run with.
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He has nothing to be ashamed of or feel funny
or feel like he's sold out or whatever. I think
people have missed the boat heillor Dion. Yeah, one thing
that I think one of the worst things you can
be as a hypocrite. And so I am not gonna
be a hypocrite and sit here and rip Deon Sanders
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for leaving a black institution to go work at a
white institution. Because I worked at the New York Times,
ESPN and fix sports, I haven't worked at the Amsterdam
News and Black entertat That's right. Chris was just showing
BT right, and so I do not have a problem
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with him leaving and going there to work, you know,
a job as a football coach. What I will say
is this, this is this. If I had to have
one criticism of Dion, it would be this. Dion, to
a large degree made it a crusade when he went
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to Jackson State, and as he was coaching there, he
largely made it about resurrecting HBCUs. He even said he
was interviewed on sixty minutes Rob He said God, he said,
I truly believe with all my heart and soul that
God called me, he said, called me collecting. I had
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to accept the charges, he said that. Him getting the
job at Jackson State three months after George Floyd. You know,
the George Floyd murder was relevant because a lot of
folks sit back with Twitter fingers and talk about what
they're going to do. These are direct quotes, and I
wanted to go do it. The interviewer said, do what
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he said, change lives, change your perspective of HBCU football,
Make everyone step up to the plate and do right
by these kids. And then he recruited to some degree,
he recruited kids on the notion of, hey, come and
change the perspective. Like Travis Hunter, remember the top player
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who left you know, was gonna commit to Florida State
and left them and committed to Jackson State. He said
that Dion sold him on how big of an impact
he could make at an HBCU and shine in the
light on our people and on HBCUs. So if that
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is indeed like that's more than just a job, that's
you that's making it sound like it's a calling now.
Was it only a calling for two or three years? Maybe?
But that is where I think, like I would say, man,
you're a football coach now obviously when you're at Jackson
State and the overwhelming majority, because you know, HBCUs aren't
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just for black students anymore like you have hispanics, you
have white students there. I had a friend who went
to Tennessee State. I think Tennessee State, if which is
an HBCU, is now like thirty percent white, you know,
so it's not just black students, but it's a black
institution run by African Americans and things like that. A
lot of African Americans in powerful positions, and I think
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that's necessary. So my thing is just when you make
it that type of crusade about race, you say God
called you there. That's why I would say, well, that
makes it a little more that to me, if you
just want to and I think Deon just wants to
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be a football coach, but didn't make it. It's a
football coach, it's a job. Don't make it about all
this other stuff. And I get it. You wherever you're at,
when you're at Jackson State, you're gonna want to influence
the kids, most of them will be African America. At Colorado,
you're gonna want to influence the kids of all races.
But that would be my one criticism Rob just he
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kind of made it about race. He made it this
type of crusade to you know, really lift up HBCUs
and how you don't have to go to the big
white institution, you know too if you want of the
top players in the country. And that's where I think
there is can be legitimate criticism. Yeah, I think that
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you can go into a situation Chris want to make
a change. I think all of the stuff that he's
did that he did was positive to HBCUs and what
he was able to do. But people do. They change
their minds and they move on and they get into
other situations. That does mean that, um he even in
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during those terms when he wanted to do and and
and change the way people looked at HBC. Use he
didn't say I'm gonna be here until I dropped dead,
and and and I'll never leave, or any spiel like
that to make you believe that this was permanent. So
so I hear your point. I think it's a valid one.
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But those same these things happen where people evolve and
move on or where he feels like I've done a
lot here. Maybe I can get to the next level
of a Colorado or even another level of that and
really have an impact to even even more players. The
HBC thing, Chris, I give him credit. I don't know
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if I thought he was gonna be a life for
it at an HBCU. So I and there aren't that
many other places to go from there. Where are you
going to? Southern? Is that the biggest HBCU, Howard? No,
I mean it's big and in terms of football programs,
uh he Well, he made Jackson State the biggest. I
think Alabama pretty tough. No, I mean it. The only
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thing left for him to do in the HBCU sports
world would be to continue to bring in corporate sponsors.
He brought PEPSI built their new practice facility. It would
be to continue to bring in corporate sponsors, continue to
get some of the top recruits. And I mean ideally
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it would be if your programs that good, it could
move up to the Division one A level versus Division
one Double A or FBS or FCS. What what's the
I always get him mixed up, but you know, the
top level um and and show that these schools can
compete with the tradition predominantly white institutions as they call them.
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I think another fact there is this rob um money.
I mean, let's let's keep it real. Deon Sanders, who
was making five hundred thousand dollars at Jackson state and
now it's gonna make five million, five million. But here's
the thing people look at and Dean, I don't have
no idea how where is financial situations at? I hope
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he's wealthy, he should be. But Rob Deon Sanders, according
to spot rack dot com, he played fourteen seasons in
the NFL. Guess how much money he made? Thirty million,
thirty three million, Chris, people were making that kind of money.
This is the first fifteen years or so right where
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guys are making the type of money where it's like, Okay,
you're set for your generation. And Chris, think about this,
thirty three million. The government takes half of that, so
you're talking about sixteen million, just seventeen million. You're young.
And that's the thing people need to I should say
people should look at when they look at the athletes Rode. Yes,
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they make a boatload of money, the superstars, But that money,
I mean, their career is gonna be done when they're
thirty five years old, and that money is supposed to
be supposed to be if ideally for the rest of
your life. And a lot of people, Chris, they don't
and you know this, I don't know what is it
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three out of four of the half of the NFL
players go bankrupt three four years out of the league.
Not anymore, not the biggest if you, but but a
lot of guys weren't able to, you know, hold onto
their money. Let me say this too. Dion did tell
sixty minutes last month that he would be a fool
not to consider a five job if it was offered
to him, and it was. He made it very clear,
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he said he'd have to look at it. Right. So,
I look my thing, if you make it, if it's
a fool, it's a job. You're going to a job
that pays you more, it's gonna give you more exposure.
And obviously a lot of your players gonna be African
American and all that fine. I'm just saying when you
make it about a calling or a crusade, that's different.
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Don't make it about that. Rob You know, I got
the King Movement Organization. To my knowledge, the King Movement
Organization is the only national Christian men's ministry that is
run by African Americans to my knowledge, and I've looked
it up. That's important to me because I think we
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need black owned, black run institutions. And so if I'm
making that a calling if you will, and then I
just I wouldn't go work for another promise keepers or
somebody that's gonna pay me more money. Just it's not
about money. This is more of a calling than me
and specifically because wanting it to be black owned and
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black run too. And so if that when you start
talking that way, then people are gonna look at it differently.
But if it's like, this is my job. I love
what I'm doing, but it's a job, They're leave it
at that. Don't make it something bigger than it really is.
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Sanders leaving Jackson State and historically black college and university
to go to Colorado. Yeah, we got some calls and
my buddy from Detroit, Chico, he texts me, Chris, and
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he's more on the stuff. To the point that you
made that Dion made it more about just a job.
He also made it about culture, black culture in the institution.
So you know, there are people who feel that way.
You know, like the scenario you laid out. I think
it's fair. I'm just saying that would be my only criticism.
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I mean, he's free to do what he wants. He
did a great job there, but that that would you
know what I mean when you make it more than
that than just a job that people got MLB bro
dot com. Yes, and you did that, I presumably to
highlight black and brown baseball players. Yes, Now to you
develop the next round of black baseball run. Okay, So
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if you just left that to go to another institution,
and that would be a right, but it would be like,
well what happened to the whole and just disbanded mail
bbro dot com. You know what I'm saying. People will
be like, well, I thought it was about the mission. No,
you know, what I mean, Yeah, I got it. I
also think that in this gendre and stuff, I don't
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want to take all the time. Let me be. I
just say people evolved too, and they might look at
it and say, Okay, my work is done here. You
remember the long range he used to say that, Noah here.
And that's the other part that comes up. Mark in Sacramento,
you're on the eye couple of five sports radier. What up? Mark?
What's going on? Gentlemen? And that's exactly what I was,
exactly what I was about ready to say. Rob. I
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think maybe sometimes we get to a point when we
see that our job is done at a certain place.
But I personally think, I uppersonally think that Dean Sanders
has a bigger aspirations. Deon Sanders opened the door, he
put his name and half his salary, if I'm not mistaken,
went back into helping, you know, rebuild the facilities. So
he did his part. He's not the savior. He lent
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his voice. He's still speaking. I personally think it's just Saturday.
In coaching the NFL make room, he will I think
you've money, will talk like you say the money will
talk money. Money normally talks for most people. Moan APIs, Yeah,
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that's who is that? Your dad? Right? Money? Don't talk
mo and san Diego. You're on the old couple of
Fox Sports trading. How are you doing more? What you got?
What's health? Fellers? Thanks for taking my call? Is always yeah.
I know. I look at this thing, and you know
he did. He did a great job. And I can't
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say anything to him for what he did, especially given
the circumstances. Dion Sanders is a Hall of Fame football
player who went to Florida State and he went into
you know, into the Black College, into HBCU, and he
did with a lot of other people who have recognition
and names and money, they didn't do it. There's no
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way I can say anything about him because he did it.
He actually went there. And you kind of have to
say it's about the cause and make it bigger because
you're taking something that's on the ground level and trying
to uplift it. It takes a tremendous amount of effort
to do that, so you have to sell. There's no
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other way to do it. And and that's that's the
purpose that you have to take. And now a someone
has to take that mantle and run with it and
do so. But it's like this. You know, I served
as an officer in the military, I went to school
and play ball. I did all of that stuff, and
I didn't do a full twenty four of your career.
But guess what, I did it. And there's million of
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people who didn't do it. So you can never say
that he didn't do it enough. When there's so many
people who won't do it. You have to start with that.
And when it's all said and done, the money that
he's making at I mean sorry in Colorado is they
don't need like a quarter of what he made in
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his career. He has to take that. No, it's the same.
He's got a five year, thirty million dollars and he
made thirty three in the NFL. It's the same deal, right, yeah.
I mean that's why we say we're not killing him.
But did I hear you? Because when you recruit, man,
you tell let's just keep it real. They telling about it,
but I don't. I think it's different when you talking
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about I don't know, man, when I talk about black people,
I'm sincere and I'm not thinking. I'm just saying I'm
not just gonna sell nothing. I'm I'm and I don't
think he was. I think he was. I think it
was sincere about it. Let's squeeze Andre, and before we
get to the sega and if you want to join
in and and this is the topic that people might
want to get into Chris eight seven seven ninety nine
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on Fox, we might take more calls. Yeah, Andre, you're
on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, thanks for
taking the call. Listen. I think Dion made the right
decision going to Colorado because he's gonna have tremendous this leverage. Okay,
the PAC twelve is soon going to become the PAC
ten with USC and UCLA leaving USC's ten. UCLA is eighteenth.
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Colorado is dead last in the past twelve. So they're
bringing in Dion because of his coaching, but because of
his prestige, his name. So he's gonna have carte blanche
in terms of how he runs his program. And one
of the things I see him doing is scheduling games
with HBCUs to raise their profile, particularly early in the season.
So he has the opportunity. I know people saying, you know,
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you should grow where your planted. So on and fourth
but I don't think Deon's gonna forget where he came from.
He is right, He is bringing his luggage with him
and it's absolutely loaded. So there's gonna be a lot
of excitement around this program. They could have a turnaround
similar to what we saw with USC with Lincoln Riley
coming in, and I think as he gains momentum, Dion
is the last person that I think is going to
forget where he came from. So he's gonna be mindful
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to bring the players, to bring the coaches, and to
bring that conference up with him. So I just think
the Colorado situation, because they're under pressure to pack twelve,
is under a tremendous amount of pressure because of what's
going on in college football. That gives him it's not
gonna be any I want to do this and he
has to kind of run it up through the train
of command. He's gonna say this is what I'm doing,
and they're gonna be like, okay. So we had the
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ability to really that rising tie to raise all boats.
So I'm excited about it for him and then for
those folks that I know that he's going to lift
up along with his success. All Right, We're gonna take
We're gonna take more of your calls eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
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All right, let's do some more calls. Let's do JJ
in Indiana. You're on The Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What up JJ? What's good fellows? You guys are doing
all right? Agree? Man? Good shout out to Munciana, the
(25:00):
ball State Cardinals always fly, the w got Cubs. My man, Hey,
I just want to say that, Look, he's been true
to form coach Sanders to this day. One when he
come out and he went in with the right attitude
when it came to all the black lives matter, everything
like that, so he gets us due. I enjoyed his
speech to the players. It reminded me when I was
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playing JV ball and my coach came up to me
and told me, literally he quote me to He said,
but you're not gonna see a lot of Pine, a
lot of courts. He told me, I'll go see Pine.
I'd rather coach the upfront right there, and let me
go explore my options and see how I can help
the team instead of just coming in and say hey,
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we love you. Hey, stay here. Things happened. Yeah, no
doubt appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, thank you. Jerome and Charleston.
Oh man, you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hello, yes,
go ahead after that speech. Okay, it's just better work
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because if it doesn't, I'm reminded that old thing. Today
they care for me, tomorrow they'll come for you. Well,
just better work that speech. What are you saying? I
didn't I didn't care for the speech. Okay, you don't
come and look, you talk nice to people. You don't
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come in trying to scare everybody to death. All right,
you talk. Yeah, well she can get fired just like
he got high. Just remember that. Okay. I am nothing
against theon, but I'm telling you I didn't care for
that speech. All right, the speech where he saying some
of the kids can leave if they can't get the
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portal if they want, Yeah, he want to try to
get they were I understand that, but you want to
try to get as many people on your side. Man,
you don't coming on the Sanders. You know how much
respect those kids after him? He's he's one of the
handful of best athletes ever two sport athlete, Chris after
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night Rob. He's arguably the greatest athlete in American history, arguable.
Don't you would you agree with that? He's one of them? Definitely,
And so I mean, look, it's it's he trying to
win at the highest college level, so he can say
what he wants. I mean, he didn't. Well, Chris, I
got a question for you. Hought to mean to cut
you off, but I had a question your thoughts on
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Dion Sanders telling the Jackson State kids. I don't want
all of you to jump in the trans reportal because
the reality is a lot of you won't find a
nice landing spot. And then immediately going to Colorado when
saying y'all better jump in the in the trans reportal,
because I'm bringing my own guys in. Well, part of
the thing is, yeah, remember it is Deon's out for Dion.
That's nothing new about him. No, that's fine, but let
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me say that you ask me a question. Jackson State
is not the highest level. It's Division one Double A.
Did you just say that he recruited like a like
a monster and they got all these great players? Was
he was he about to compete with the power of five?
He got need to get the number one in the nation.
He had some kids, he said himself or sixty minutes,
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I don't have the big, big boys up front to compete, right,
I got the skill compete with Alabama. And that's what
he said about that. But my point is there's a dip. Now.
He obviously was bringing in some top flight kids. Don't
get me wrong, but he how many did he probably
have how many? Like like huge? Yeah? If that if
he had ten sixty seventy kids in college, that's what
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I'm saying. Like the players that the law presumably are
better than the players at Jackson State. Sure, but even
you gotta admit and Rob two, there's something unsavory about
him telling the Jackson State kids don't go in the
trash reporter because it's not it's not gonna be great
for you. There's over a thousand kids in the trash
reporter right now, and something like how many of them
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get at landing spots, but then immediately telling these other kids,
you better jump in the trash reporter because he's mo. Yeah,
I get that, Rob G. It's what it says is
I'm out for Dion. I'm out for me first and
what I need to succeed. I don't care about you kids.
That's what it sounds like to me. Yeah, I mean,
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here's what I say, because and this is where you
just gotta you don't know about the HBCU situation. Remember
before he went to Jackson State, he interviewed at Florida
State and Arkansas and didn't get them. Had he gotten them,
would he have gone to the HBC And that's where
I'm just saying. If it's just about coaching football, then
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just be like it's coaching football, don't make it a
crusade about race. If it's not. If it's just coaching football,
then leave it at that, and don't make it about
race and building black institutions and all that if that's
not really what it's about. And so that's where, like
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I said, that would be my critique. But I mean
I was fine with him talking to the kids, you know,
the way he did and all that, But all right,
it is the y couple, Christ and Rob and Rob
Ge weighing in with some spice. Yes, he just hates me,
you know, because no, I don't give it in any
(30:30):
other rate. He used to. You know, I remember this
with our first Super Bowl together, Dion sat with us
and he said after the interview, he said, I like
what you two brothers to do it on the national
scale by having you guys in your basically two black
guys hosting on the national level is a big deal.
So I do, like I respect him for that, you
know what one of one of the Chris. You know,
(30:51):
you've had dinner with a lot of athletes over the
years in your career, but Earl, I had dinner with
Dion Sanders and uh Eric Davis who was the center
fielder for the Reds, you know during back in when
Dion was playing baseball. Yeah, but you know he's still yeah,
And I had dinner in LA with those guys, and
it was just great. Like Dion even back then, you know,
(31:14):
with all the but you knew that this guy was
was deeper, had real thoughts, you know, like I was
thoroughly impressed Chris, because you know, you sit down and
have dinner for two or three hours. Two hours with
somebody is different from having a sound bite talking to
somebody for ten minutes, you know what I mean. And
I remember leaving that dinner feeling just good about who
(31:36):
he was and what kind of guy is. I have
a lot of respect for him, I think, regardless of
how you feel about his move, you do, what he
did at Jackson State was phenomenal and the attention he
brought them and he got a lot of it too
from that, right, he got a lot of individual attention
as well. But he I mean the building of the facilities,
(31:57):
getting more sponsors, not only for the school, but for
the conference. Rob. And that's why I'm disappointed, not in him,
but just in I wish it could have went even further.
But you know, again, he's not the savior. It can
be a collective move of a lot of African Americans
who aren't even at HBCUs. It still can be done. So, um,
(32:21):
he did a great job there, There's no doubt about that.
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We mentioned it with I think it was Roy Woodson.
Deshaun Watson made his debut first game and was seven
(33:26):
hundred days. They were saying was it his debut or
daybut either one? Yeah, it was more of a day.
But they won twenty seven fourteen. But three, uh what
they have? I think they had three defensive touchdowns just
sixteen yard touchdown return fumble return and uh special teams. Yeah,
(33:47):
you get like touchdowns like that in the game. That's something. Yeah,
it was. It was incredible. And then they had two
field goals, but he uh, Deshaun Watson finished what were
his numbers? He finished twelve or twenty two, one hundred
and thirty one yards, no touchdowns and a pick qbu
(34:08):
he had a passer raiding the fifty three point four
and Rob you and I said, we're not surprised, not
at all. We both A surprising thing would have been
if he came out and looked great, right, Um, but
he looked bad. And I don't think it will continue.
I think, you know, kind of like Rod said, he'll
get he'll get better. But that tells you, right, I
(34:29):
mean this, I bet it was. The speed of the
game just shocked him. Yeah, because practice, Chris, is not
the same. It just isn't as much as practice is important.
Contrary to Alan Iverson, it's still about playing, uh and
you even especially today. Yeah, they don't practice nearly as
hard as they used And two years off, Chris, that's
(34:51):
a long time. Yeah, it's a long time. And a
lot of his passes were low, short and um, yeah,
he just he wasn't himself, but they got the win.
And and I tell you for the Browns robe, they
blew it. And it's it's not Jacoby Brissette's fault. It's
(35:12):
an organizational blunder in that they couldn't build up a
better record while he was out because they should have.
We all remember they blew the game against the Jets.
The schedule was there for them, Well, yeah, it really was. They.
I mean, they're still alive if they were to go
into some kind of run. They're five and seven, but
(35:34):
they really should have been an even much better position.
And as he presumably gets better, they would be better.
But you know, we'll see. I mean, the Houston robe reaction,
it wasn't over the top, did you see it? I
mean it wasn't. Yeah, it really wasn't anything crazy, but
they bowed them, which is what the fans too. I
didn't see. I had the game on, but I didn't
(35:55):
see the women the accusers. Did they show them, do
you know, Roger, I didn't see to me, the rob
g Did they show anything about the accusers that were there?
I didn't see that. Highly watched parts of the game
and didn't watch the full minute by anybody not see
any Yeah, I didn't see that, so I don't know,
um if they, you know, even showed that or if
(36:16):
there was from that, right right, I'm just assuming, right right,
so um, but hopefully you know, everything is he's gotten
himself to get and then it can be about football
going forward. People have great redemption stories in life. I mean,
oh yeah, it's nothing that's not old. You made a mistake,
(36:40):
you paid the price consequences. Chris, get back out there
and be a better person. That's all you gotta do.
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and Rob The Couple. Robs so far a bit pedestrian
in Tampa Bay. I'm not that surprised. I gotta be honest.
(01:28):
Tampa's up three zero and they've been struggling to score points.
The only team that thinks Tampa scores a lot is Denver,
So I'm not surprised that says. That says all you
need to know, right, They're like, man, they run up
the scoreboard, score three in the first half. Get about
the game. But yeah, so there there. Will keep you
(01:52):
updated with the Monday night game, New Orleans Marching. I
guess I can say that Marching UM rob story over
the weekend. Deon Sanders, who've done such a great job
at Jackson State UM. They are undefeated. They won the
Swack Conference and beat Southern in the championship on Saturday,
(02:16):
robbed a little. My grandparents went to Southern University in
Baton Rouge is HBCU and Baton Rouge several cousins who
went there as well, and my grandfather, believe it or not,
was the reason that they had night school at Southern
(02:37):
because he went to LSU to go to night school
and they wouldn't let him because he's black, and so
they created a separate but equal right supposedly, so they
created an equal opportunity at the local HBCU Southern Ye,
that's interesting, Chris. By the way, you talked about Dion
(02:59):
wanting the swamp, you know what that stands for? Southwest
Athletic Conference, No, somewhere around Colorado. I'm just want you
to know that. That's why I got mad when they
said he's not swack. Right, So that's the big deal. Rob.
(03:19):
He's leaving Jackson State to go to Colorado, which, yeah,
they're bad. Now where were they wanting eleven this year?
And that's when they hired new coaches? Is when teams
are bad, right, I just hate to break it to people.
And well, I remember, remember twenty years ago they won,
not as roughly twenty five years ago something. They won
the national championship with Bill McCartney late nineties I believe
(03:41):
it was mid nineties, late nineties. But yeah, I mean
that that's a program where if he does I mean,
if he turned it around, I mean they'd be in
the mix. Right. It's not like you're going somewhere where
you got no Look the recruits you got to go
to Jackson stay right right now, you're in the PAC twelve, right,
(04:03):
I mean, no, if he does as good a job,
then they're gonna be good. And I know people are
pushing back. Always a sell out, he's leaving the age back. Yeah,
some African Americans are pushing back. Here, here's dionoing that rock.
The thing that alarms me the most is just because
(04:25):
I'm leaving Jackson, to think that I'm leaving African Americans.
I don't know if you notice not, but I'm black.
I can never leave who I am or what I am,
or how I am and how I going about being that.
So it is still my task of looking in that
locker room and see sixty five to seventy percent of
African American men trying to help him get to the
(04:45):
next level, as well as all the others. My calling
is for young men, young women, and people of all
walks of life, all social climates, and all ethnicities. That's
my calling. My calling is not built on a little location.
He's built on the destination. Now, that was good. You're
supposed to clap for that. Some of my good stuff
(05:10):
we just we just getting started, already went in the bag. Baby,
let's go. What was that I siding? I hope those
weren't reporters clapping. I mean you know what I mean, like, well,
that was like that conference, but it was more than reporters.
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
you're right, reporters, what are your thoughts on this? Right?
I have no issue with this. Uh, people should look
(05:31):
at Christie came to Jackson Stays, done a fantastic job.
He built that program up, got sponsors to build better
facilities for that school, and and he set up another coach,
Chris Black coach to come in and replace him and
have something to work with. He doesn't have to stay
there his whole life or only coach HBCUs. I mean,
(05:53):
if there was another opportunity that was great at an
HBCU didn't find but that, But but to make him
feel like he's done something wrong because he went, got
an opportunity, built on it, recruited some great players, got money,
you know, delivered to the school Chris and built something
down there that somebody else can take and run with.
(06:16):
He has nothing to be ashamed of or feel funny
or feel like he's sold out or whatever. I think
people have missed the boat heillor Dion. Yeah, one thing
that I think one of the worst things you can
be as a hypocrite. And so I am not gonna
be a hypocrite and sit here and rip Deon Sanders
(06:38):
for leaving a black institution to go work at a
white institution. Because I worked at the New York Times,
ESPN and fix sports, I haven't worked at the Amsterdam
News and Black entertat That's right. Chris was just showing
BT right, and so I do not have a problem
(06:59):
with him leaving and going there to work, you know,
a job as a football coach. What I will say
is this, this is this. If I had to have
one criticism of Dion, it would be this. Dion, to
a large degree made it a crusade when he went
(07:21):
to Jackson State, and as he was coaching there, he
largely made it about resurrecting HBCUs. He even said he
was interviewed on sixty minutes Rob He said God, he said,
I truly believe with all my heart and soul that
God called me, he said, called me collecting. I had
(07:42):
to accept the charges, he said that. Him getting the
job at Jackson State three months after George Floyd. You know,
the George Floyd murder was relevant because a lot of
folks sit back with Twitter fingers and talk about what
they're going to do. These are direct quotes, and I
wanted to go do it. The interviewer said, do what
(08:04):
he said, change lives, change your perspective of HBCU football,
Make everyone step up to the plate and do right
by these kids. And then he recruited to some degree,
he recruited kids on the notion of, hey, come and
change the perspective. Like Travis Hunter, remember the top player
(08:26):
who left you know, was gonna commit to Florida State
and left them and committed to Jackson State. He said
that Dion sold him on how big of an impact
he could make at an HBCU and shine in the
light on our people and on HBCUs. So if that
(08:49):
is indeed like that's more than just a job, that's
you that's making it sound like it's a calling now.
Was it only a calling for two or three years? Maybe?
But that is where I think, like I would say, man,
you're a football coach now obviously when you're at Jackson
State and the overwhelming majority, because you know, HBCUs aren't
(09:13):
just for black students anymore like you have hispanics, you
have white students there. I had a friend who went
to Tennessee State. I think Tennessee State, if which is
an HBCU, is now like thirty percent white, you know,
so it's not just black students, but it's a black
institution run by African Americans and things like that. A
lot of African Americans in powerful positions, and I think
(09:35):
that's necessary. So my thing is just when you make
it that type of crusade about race, you say God
called you there. That's why I would say, well, that
makes it a little more that to me, if you
just want to and I think Deon just wants to
(09:57):
be a football coach, but didn't make it. It's a
football coach, it's a job. Don't make it about all
this other stuff. And I get it. You wherever you're at,
when you're at Jackson State, you're gonna want to influence
the kids, most of them will be African America. At Colorado,
you're gonna want to influence the kids of all races.
But that would be my one criticism Rob just he
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kind of made it about race. He made it this
type of crusade to you know, really lift up HBCUs
and how you don't have to go to the big
white institution, you know too if you want of the
top players in the country. And that's where I think
there is can be legitimate criticism. Yeah, I think that
(10:41):
you can go into a situation Chris want to make
a change. I think all of the stuff that he's
did that he did was positive to HBCUs and what
he was able to do. But people do. They change
their minds and they move on and they get into
other situations. That does mean that, um he even in
(11:04):
during those terms when he wanted to do and and
and change the way people looked at HBC. Use he
didn't say I'm gonna be here until I dropped dead,
and and and I'll never leave, or any spiel like
that to make you believe that this was permanent. So
so I hear your point. I think it's a valid one.
(11:26):
But those same these things happen where people evolve and
move on or where he feels like I've done a
lot here. Maybe I can get to the next level
of a Colorado or even another level of that and
really have an impact to even even more players. The
HBC thing, Chris, I give him credit. I don't know
(11:49):
if I thought he was gonna be a life for
it at an HBCU. So I and there aren't that
many other places to go from there. Where are you
going to? Southern? Is that the biggest HBCU, Howard? No,
I mean it's big and in terms of football programs,
uh he Well, he made Jackson State the biggest. I
think Alabama pretty tough. No, I mean it. The only
(12:14):
thing left for him to do in the HBCU sports
world would be to continue to bring in corporate sponsors.
He brought PEPSI built their new practice facility. It would
be to continue to bring in corporate sponsors, continue to
get some of the top recruits. And I mean ideally
(12:36):
it would be if your programs that good, it could
move up to the Division one A level versus Division
one Double A or FBS or FCS. What what's the
I always get him mixed up, but you know, the
top level um and and show that these schools can
compete with the tradition predominantly white institutions as they call them.
(12:58):
I think another fact there is this rob um money.
I mean, let's let's keep it real. Deon Sanders, who
was making five hundred thousand dollars at Jackson state and
now it's gonna make five million, five million. But here's
the thing people look at and Dean, I don't have
no idea how where is financial situations at? I hope
(13:20):
he's wealthy, he should be. But Rob Deon Sanders, according
to spot rack dot com, he played fourteen seasons in
the NFL. Guess how much money he made? Thirty million,
thirty three million, Chris, people were making that kind of money.
This is the first fifteen years or so right where
(13:43):
guys are making the type of money where it's like, Okay,
you're set for your generation. And Chris, think about this,
thirty three million. The government takes half of that, so
you're talking about sixteen million, just seventeen million. You're young.
And that's the thing people need to I should say
people should look at when they look at the athletes Rode. Yes,
(14:07):
they make a boatload of money, the superstars, But that money,
I mean, their career is gonna be done when they're
thirty five years old, and that money is supposed to
be supposed to be if ideally for the rest of
your life. And a lot of people, Chris, they don't
and you know this, I don't know what is it
(14:27):
three out of four of the half of the NFL
players go bankrupt three four years out of the league.
Not anymore, not the biggest if you, but but a
lot of guys weren't able to, you know, hold onto
their money. Let me say this too. Dion did tell
sixty minutes last month that he would be a fool
not to consider a five job if it was offered
to him, and it was. He made it very clear,
(14:47):
he said he'd have to look at it. Right. So,
I look my thing, if you make it, if it's
a fool, it's a job. You're going to a job
that pays you more, it's gonna give you more exposure.
And obviously a lot of your players gonna be African
American and all that fine. I'm just saying when you
make it about a calling or a crusade, that's different.
(15:10):
Don't make it about that. Rob You know, I got
the King Movement Organization. To my knowledge, the King Movement
Organization is the only national Christian men's ministry that is
run by African Americans to my knowledge, and I've looked
it up. That's important to me because I think we
(15:32):
need black owned, black run institutions. And so if I'm
making that a calling if you will, and then I
just I wouldn't go work for another promise keepers or
somebody that's gonna pay me more money. Just it's not
about money. This is more of a calling than me
and specifically because wanting it to be black owned and
(15:54):
black run too. And so if that when you start
talking that way, then people are gonna look at it differently.
But if it's like, this is my job. I love
what I'm doing, but it's a job, They're leave it
at that. Don't make it something bigger than it really is.
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three sixty nine. Do you have a problem with Dion
Sanders leaving Jackson State and historically black college and university
to go to Colorado. Yeah, we got some calls and
my buddy from Detroit, Chico, he texts me, Chris, and
(18:07):
he's more on the stuff. To the point that you
made that Dion made it more about just a job.
He also made it about culture, black culture in the institution.
So you know, there are people who feel that way.
You know, like the scenario you laid out. I think
it's fair. I'm just saying that would be my only criticism.
(18:29):
I mean, he's free to do what he wants. He
did a great job there, but that that would you
know what I mean when you make it more than
that than just a job that people got MLB bro
dot com. Yes, and you did that, I presumably to
highlight black and brown baseball players. Yes, Now to you
develop the next round of black baseball run. Okay, So
(18:51):
if you just left that to go to another institution,
and that would be a right, but it would be like,
well what happened to the whole and just disbanded mail
bbro dot com. You know what I'm saying. People will
be like, well, I thought it was about the mission. No,
you know, what I mean, Yeah, I got it. I
also think that in this gendre and stuff, I don't
(19:12):
want to take all the time. Let me be. I
just say people evolved too, and they might look at
it and say, Okay, my work is done here. You
remember the long range he used to say that, Noah here.
And that's the other part that comes up. Mark in Sacramento,
you're on the eye couple of five sports radier. What up? Mark?
What's going on? Gentlemen? And that's exactly what I was,
exactly what I was about ready to say. Rob. I
(19:33):
think maybe sometimes we get to a point when we
see that our job is done at a certain place.
But I personally think, I uppersonally think that Dean Sanders
has a bigger aspirations. Deon Sanders opened the door, he
put his name and half his salary, if I'm not mistaken,
went back into helping, you know, rebuild the facilities. So
he did his part. He's not the savior. He lent
(19:55):
his voice. He's still speaking. I personally think it's just Saturday.
In coaching the NFL make room, he will I think
you've money, will talk like you say the money will
talk money. Money normally talks for most people. Moan APIs, Yeah,
(20:17):
that's who is that? Your dad? Right? Money? Don't talk
mo and san Diego. You're on the old couple of
Fox Sports trading. How are you doing more? What you got?
What's health? Fellers? Thanks for taking my call? Is always yeah.
I know. I look at this thing, and you know
he did. He did a great job. And I can't
(20:39):
say anything to him for what he did, especially given
the circumstances. Dion Sanders is a Hall of Fame football
player who went to Florida State and he went into
you know, into the Black College, into HBCU, and he
did with a lot of other people who have recognition
and names and money, they didn't do it. There's no
(21:00):
way I can say anything about him because he did it.
He actually went there. And you kind of have to
say it's about the cause and make it bigger because
you're taking something that's on the ground level and trying
to uplift it. It takes a tremendous amount of effort
to do that, so you have to sell. There's no
(21:21):
other way to do it. And and that's that's the
purpose that you have to take. And now a someone
has to take that mantle and run with it and
do so. But it's like this. You know, I served
as an officer in the military, I went to school
and play ball. I did all of that stuff, and
I didn't do a full twenty four of your career.
But guess what, I did it. And there's million of
(21:42):
people who didn't do it. So you can never say
that he didn't do it enough. When there's so many
people who won't do it. You have to start with that.
And when it's all said and done, the money that
he's making at I mean sorry in Colorado is they
don't need like a quarter of what he made in
(22:02):
his career. He has to take that. No, it's the same.
He's got a five year, thirty million dollars and he
made thirty three in the NFL. It's the same deal, right, yeah.
I mean that's why we say we're not killing him.
But did I hear you? Because when you recruit, man,
you tell let's just keep it real. They telling about it,
but I don't. I think it's different when you talking
(22:24):
about I don't know, man, when I talk about black people,
I'm sincere and I'm not thinking. I'm just saying I'm
not just gonna sell nothing. I'm I'm and I don't
think he was. I think he was. I think it
was sincere about it. Let's squeeze Andre, and before we
get to the sega and if you want to join
in and and this is the topic that people might
want to get into Chris eight seven seven ninety nine
(22:46):
on Fox, we might take more calls. Yeah, Andre, you're
on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, thanks for
taking the call. Listen. I think Dion made the right
decision going to Colorado because he's gonna have tremendous this leverage. Okay,
the PAC twelve is soon going to become the PAC
ten with USC and UCLA leaving USC's ten. UCLA is eighteenth.
(23:08):
Colorado is dead last in the past twelve. So they're
bringing in Dion because of his coaching, but because of
his prestige, his name. So he's gonna have carte blanche
in terms of how he runs his program. And one
of the things I see him doing is scheduling games
with HBCUs to raise their profile, particularly early in the season.
So he has the opportunity. I know people saying, you know,
(23:29):
you should grow where your planted. So on and fourth
but I don't think Deon's gonna forget where he came from.
He is right, He is bringing his luggage with him
and it's absolutely loaded. So there's gonna be a lot
of excitement around this program. They could have a turnaround
similar to what we saw with USC with Lincoln Riley
coming in, and I think as he gains momentum, Dion
is the last person that I think is going to
forget where he came from. So he's gonna be mindful
(23:52):
to bring the players, to bring the coaches, and to
bring that conference up with him. So I just think
the Colorado situation, because they're under pressure to pack twelve,
is under a tremendous amount of pressure because of what's
going on in college football. That gives him it's not
gonna be any I want to do this and he
has to kind of run it up through the train
of command. He's gonna say this is what I'm doing,
and they're gonna be like, okay. So we had the
(24:13):
ability to really that rising tie to raise all boats.
So I'm excited about it for him and then for
those folks that I know that he's going to lift
up along with his success. All Right, We're gonna take
We're gonna take more of your calls eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine on Dion Sanders leaving Jackson
State to go to Colorado, but first be sure to
(24:35):
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All right, let's do some more calls. Let's do JJ
in Indiana. You're on The Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What up JJ? What's good fellows? You guys are doing
all right? Agree? Man? Good shout out to Munciana, the
(25:00):
ball State Cardinals always fly, the w got Cubs. My man, Hey,
I just want to say that, Look, he's been true
to form coach Sanders to this day. One when he
come out and he went in with the right attitude
when it came to all the black lives matter, everything
like that, so he gets us due. I enjoyed his
speech to the players. It reminded me when I was
(25:22):
playing JV ball and my coach came up to me
and told me, literally he quote me to He said,
but you're not gonna see a lot of Pine, a
lot of courts. He told me, I'll go see Pine.
I'd rather coach the upfront right there, and let me
go explore my options and see how I can help
the team instead of just coming in and say hey,
(25:44):
we love you. Hey, stay here. Things happened. Yeah, no
doubt appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, thank you. Jerome and Charleston.
Oh man, you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hello, yes,
go ahead after that speech. Okay, it's just better work
(26:06):
because if it doesn't, I'm reminded that old thing. Today
they care for me, tomorrow they'll come for you. Well,
just better work that speech. What are you saying? I
didn't I didn't care for the speech. Okay, you don't
come and look, you talk nice to people. You don't
(26:27):
come in trying to scare everybody to death. All right,
you talk. Yeah, well she can get fired just like
he got high. Just remember that. Okay. I am nothing
against theon, but I'm telling you I didn't care for
that speech. All right, the speech where he saying some
of the kids can leave if they can't get the
(26:48):
portal if they want, Yeah, he want to try to
get they were I understand that, but you want to
try to get as many people on your side. Man,
you don't coming on the Sanders. You know how much
respect those kids after him? He's he's one of the
handful of best athletes ever two sport athlete, Chris after
(27:11):
night Rob. He's arguably the greatest athlete in American history, arguable.
Don't you would you agree with that? He's one of them? Definitely,
And so I mean, look, it's it's he trying to
win at the highest college level, so he can say
what he wants. I mean, he didn't. Well, Chris, I
got a question for you. Hought to mean to cut
you off, but I had a question your thoughts on
(27:31):
Dion Sanders telling the Jackson State kids. I don't want
all of you to jump in the trans reportal because
the reality is a lot of you won't find a
nice landing spot. And then immediately going to Colorado when
saying y'all better jump in the in the trans reportal,
because I'm bringing my own guys in. Well, part of
the thing is, yeah, remember it is Deon's out for Dion.
That's nothing new about him. No, that's fine, but let
(27:52):
me say that you ask me a question. Jackson State
is not the highest level. It's Division one Double A.
Did you just say that he recruited like a like
a monster and they got all these great players? Was
he was he about to compete with the power of five?
He got need to get the number one in the nation.
He had some kids, he said himself or sixty minutes,
(28:13):
I don't have the big, big boys up front to compete, right,
I got the skill compete with Alabama. And that's what
he said about that. But my point is there's a dip. Now.
He obviously was bringing in some top flight kids. Don't
get me wrong, but he how many did he probably
have how many? Like like huge? Yeah? If that if
he had ten sixty seventy kids in college, that's what
(28:37):
I'm saying. Like the players that the law presumably are
better than the players at Jackson State. Sure, but even
you gotta admit and Rob two, there's something unsavory about
him telling the Jackson State kids don't go in the
trash reporter because it's not it's not gonna be great
for you. There's over a thousand kids in the trash
reporter right now, and something like how many of them
(29:00):
get at landing spots, but then immediately telling these other kids,
you better jump in the trash reporter because he's mo. Yeah,
I get that, Rob G. It's what it says is
I'm out for Dion. I'm out for me first and
what I need to succeed. I don't care about you kids.
That's what it sounds like to me. Yeah, I mean,
(29:22):
here's what I say, because and this is where you
just gotta you don't know about the HBCU situation. Remember
before he went to Jackson State, he interviewed at Florida
State and Arkansas and didn't get them. Had he gotten them,
would he have gone to the HBC And that's where
I'm just saying. If it's just about coaching football, then
(29:45):
just be like it's coaching football, don't make it a
crusade about race. If it's not. If it's just coaching football,
then leave it at that, and don't make it about
race and building black institutions and all that if that's
not really what it's about. And so that's where, like
(30:05):
I said, that would be my critique. But I mean
I was fine with him talking to the kids, you know,
the way he did and all that, But all right,
it is the y couple, Christ and Rob and Rob
Ge weighing in with some spice. Yes, he just hates me,
you know, because no, I don't give it in any
(30:30):
other rate. He used to. You know, I remember this
with our first Super Bowl together, Dion sat with us
and he said after the interview, he said, I like
what you two brothers to do it on the national
scale by having you guys in your basically two black
guys hosting on the national level is a big deal.
So I do, like I respect him for that, you
know what one of one of the Chris. You know,
(30:51):
you've had dinner with a lot of athletes over the
years in your career, but Earl, I had dinner with
Dion Sanders and uh Eric Davis who was the center
fielder for the Reds, you know during back in when
Dion was playing baseball. Yeah, but you know he's still yeah,
And I had dinner in LA with those guys, and
it was just great. Like Dion even back then, you know,
(31:14):
with all the but you knew that this guy was
was deeper, had real thoughts, you know, like I was
thoroughly impressed Chris, because you know, you sit down and
have dinner for two or three hours. Two hours with
somebody is different from having a sound bite talking to
somebody for ten minutes, you know what I mean. And
I remember leaving that dinner feeling just good about who
(31:36):
he was and what kind of guy is. I have
a lot of respect for him, I think, regardless of
how you feel about his move, you do, what he
did at Jackson State was phenomenal and the attention he
brought them and he got a lot of it too
from that, right, he got a lot of individual attention
as well. But he I mean the building of the facilities,
(31:57):
getting more sponsors, not only for the school, but for
the conference. Rob. And that's why I'm disappointed, not in him,
but just in I wish it could have went even further.
But you know, again, he's not the savior. It can
be a collective move of a lot of African Americans
who aren't even at HBCUs. It still can be done. So, um,
(32:21):
he did a great job there, There's no doubt about that.
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We mentioned it with I think it was Roy Woodson.
Deshaun Watson made his debut first game and was seven
(33:26):
hundred days. They were saying was it his debut or
daybut either one? Yeah, it was more of a day.
But they won twenty seven fourteen. But three, uh what
they have? I think they had three defensive touchdowns just
sixteen yard touchdown return fumble return and uh special teams. Yeah,
(33:47):
you get like touchdowns like that in the game. That's something. Yeah,
it was. It was incredible. And then they had two
field goals, but he uh, Deshaun Watson finished what were
his numbers? He finished twelve or twenty two, one hundred
and thirty one yards, no touchdowns and a pick qbu
(34:08):
he had a passer raiding the fifty three point four
and Rob you and I said, we're not surprised, not
at all. We both A surprising thing would have been
if he came out and looked great, right, Um, but
he looked bad. And I don't think it will continue.
I think, you know, kind of like Rod said, he'll
get he'll get better. But that tells you, right, I
(34:29):
mean this, I bet it was. The speed of the
game just shocked him. Yeah, because practice, Chris, is not
the same. It just isn't as much as practice is important.
Contrary to Alan Iverson, it's still about playing, uh and
you even especially today. Yeah, they don't practice nearly as
hard as they used And two years off, Chris, that's
(34:51):
a long time. Yeah, it's a long time. And a
lot of his passes were low, short and um, yeah,
he just he wasn't himself, but they got the win.
And and I tell you for the Browns robe, they
blew it. And it's it's not Jacoby Brissette's fault. It's
(35:12):
an organizational blunder in that they couldn't build up a
better record while he was out because they should have.
We all remember they blew the game against the Jets.
The schedule was there for them, Well, yeah, it really was. They.
I mean, they're still alive if they were to go
into some kind of run. They're five and seven, but
(35:34):
they really should have been an even much better position.
And as he presumably gets better, they would be better.
But you know, we'll see. I mean, the Houston robe reaction,
it wasn't over the top, did you see it? I
mean it wasn't. Yeah, it really wasn't anything crazy, but
they bowed them, which is what the fans too. I
didn't see. I had the game on, but I didn't
(35:55):
see the women the accusers. Did they show them, do
you know, Roger, I didn't see to me, the rob
g Did they show anything about the accusers that were there?
I didn't see that. Highly watched parts of the game
and didn't watch the full minute by anybody not see
any Yeah, I didn't see that, so I don't know,
um if they, you know, even showed that or if
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there was from that, right right, I'm just assuming, right right,
so um, but hopefully you know, everything is he's gotten
himself to get and then it can be about football
going forward. People have great redemption stories in life. I mean,
oh yeah, it's nothing that's not old. You made a mistake,
(36:40):
you paid the price consequences. Chris, get back out there
and be a better person. That's all you gotta do.
That's right, that's right, all right. It is the I
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