August 6, 2025 • 32 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend hosts Martin Weiss and Bucky Brooks are in for Rob and Kelvin, and the guys tell us why the Buffalo Bills are wise not to be solely focused on beating the Kansas City Chiefs, and explain why Teddy Bridgewater should be applauded - not punished - for doing everything he can to help the high school players in his community. Plus, 2x Super Bowl champion Tony Casillas swings by to discuss the Micah Parsons contract negotiations, what's going on with Terry McLaurin in Washington, and much more!
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(01:52):
see these comments Bucky by Bill's general manager Brandon Bean
in reference to the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, he said, quote,
it's a play here or a play there. We're close,
but we can't just prepare the team to beat the Chiefs.
(02:16):
There are a lot of good teams in the AFC.
I don't think we're far away. We just have to
make a stop here or there. We haven't made the
stop we needed. We haven't made the stop when we
needed to make them. We feel like we've upgraded our
defense for that reason. We have to get the key stops.
Bucky Brooks, your thoughts on Brandon Bean and his team
(02:37):
building philosophy.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Look, I agree with him.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
He can't solely beat the team build the team to
beat the Kansaity Chiefs the way that it operates normally
in the National Football League. You build your team to
win a division, and then you keep in mind the
heavyweights that you know you may see in the conference
or in the other conference. So while he can't specifically
build the team to beat the Can's City Chiefs, he
(03:01):
must be aware of what is going to take to
knock them off. But look, man, the Chiefs have been
their boogeyman. They have just not been able to knock
them off. Despite having teams that were good enough to
beat them, they just haven't been able to get it done.
And they can change the personnel and do all the
other stuff, but to me, it's far more mental than
(03:22):
anything else when it comes to dealing with them. They
have to understand how to take them in the deep onone,
knock them out. They beat them at the recor seat,
and they just in the postseas they haven't been able
to do it.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
And it's a lot of you know, Chris Jones pushes
Dion Dawkins back into Josh Allen and he overthrows digs
on what would have been the touchdown or that age.
He's right that they are close, and I ultimately do
agree with him. I also just kind of wonder, you know,
(03:51):
I just wonder when he kind of like decided this
was the way he was going to go about this,
or if this is a hymn thing, if the whole
team and I promise I'll land the plane. Because here's
the rub. The Chiefs sure have had a stranglehold over
the AFC over the last what four years? Yeah, for
the last or five to last six Super Bowls, right
with us Joe Burrow sneaking in in between. So I
(04:16):
get why somebody would say the Chiefs have knocked us
out of the playoffs every year. But the reality is
the Chiefs were knocking anybody out of the AFC playoffs
those years, right, you know what I'm saying. If you
just play it out that way, you know, say they
were gonna knock whoever.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
They saw out.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
You have to build a team, and you have to
have a strategy of team building. In my opinion, that's
going to win you most football games.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You have to be able to say, more often than not,
if I implement this strategy, I will win. And I
think the number one quick essential example of that in
recent memory is the Philadelphia Eagles days. We are running
the ball. We do not want our quarterback to throw
the ball over thirty times, whether you like it or not,
(05:02):
whether you.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Think he's top five or not.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
We think he's top one, and we're gonna keep saying that,
but we don't want him to throw the ball thirty times. Yeah,
despite not throwing the ball thirty times, we are going
to pay our wide receivers because we need them. We
are going to pay our running backs because we need them.
On the defensive side of the ball, now, that's.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Where we might be able to do a little bargain Ben.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Shopping, Zach Bond, You're on one of the worst teams
in the NFL as a special teamer. You know what,
come on down company, All pro starting linebacker for us, right,
you know what I'm saying, and then drafting well, of course,
on the defensive side of the ball, there has been
a run on white kids named Cooper in their twenties now,
but they found one of them, put him at cornerback.
(05:41):
And then Quinnion Mitchell from Toledo. Those guys are first
year players making huge bom Pick six is in the
Super Bowl, right, they clearly have a strategy and a
thought process.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
This is how we are going to win more games
than not.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And I don't think that changed when they were nine
to one and then lost ten games in a row
or whatever it was to then be bounced out in
the playoffs in the first round the year in between
the two Super Bowl berth But it just shows you.
To me, that's their strategy and to me, Buffalo, that's
why I wonder when they got this, because yeah, I
(06:16):
agree with you, Brandon Bean. You should build a team
that stands on its own. You should be like, sure,
Borrow still leaving, but do your own thing, put your
own spin on it. But I wonder if this is
a recent relevation because you have Josh Allen, a quarterback,
the raining MVP in the NFL, and in the AFC
Championship game he went oh for however many on however
(06:38):
many twist pushes in a row, a play that you
didn't do that the Eagles do all the time. It
works well, and you lost that game. Essentially, I just
say lost a lot of winning. What is the winning
probability in that game by deciding not to have your
own short yardage thing with your own special guy.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, but everything is different, right. So that works for
Philadelphia partially because you have a quarterback that dead lifts
six hundred pounds and so everyone else is struggling doing
the quarterback sneak push push, But the Philadelphia Eagles are
uniquely qualified to be able to do it because the
special qualities are a quarterback and maybe the best offensive
line in football. The Buffalo Bills are on the right
(07:19):
track because they're always in the conversation and it's very
difficult to look crack the code to make it to
a Super Bowl appearance. The can City Chiefs have been different.
I mean you talk about five appearances, three wins, whatever,
all those things that they've been able to accomplish in
this run terrific. But if the Buffalo Bills build their
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team specifically to be the kan City Chiefs, and what
if the Chiefs are not talk about the Baltimore Ravens,
it is stylistically they're different what you need because what
you need to defend the Baltimore Ravens, that physical running game,
Lamar Jackson, whatever, is not necessarily the same thing that
you need to be the kN City Chiefs. So and
(08:02):
Brandon Bean talks about I got to worry about some
other teams. He does have to have consideration. We got
to be able to stop the run. We need to
be able to have pastors to get after the quarterback.
We need to have some coverage guys, and all these
other things. So he's saying it in a nuanced way. Yes,
the King City Chiefs are in mind, but I also
have to be ready for anybody else as emerges as
(08:24):
a heavyweight contender this year.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And that's why I think that if you are building
your team with Kansas City and mind that that's shortsighted. Yes,
like it's it is very I get it that he
keep that the Boogeyman keeps coming.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But you got to.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Protect against everybody because Freddy Krueger might be next door,
you know what I And especially it's specially in the AFC, boy,
because I mean, it seems to me at this point
that there is pretty much one thing that all football
fans agree on, us the top four quarterbacks in the NFL,
(08:59):
the elites, Yeah, you know, the tier one the rushmore
right now, right now, that seems to be a consensus
across the board.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
To make sure. It just makes you real on the
same thing. So your four would be.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
My four would be Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Okay, cool, that's everyone. Okay, we're here on that.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
We can't agree with a lot as a country right now,
but we can That's something. It feels like we all
got square.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
That that is where the lion falls off.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
And you know, like there's a lot of controversy when
Jalen Hurst wasn't including in the top ten and people
talking to top five whatever. But that Mount Rushmore that
you speak to, I'm with you on that. And the
only one that I would say is bumping up against
that that I would expect to start chiseling his face
out would be the kid in Washington that is Jalen.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, but we gotta he's got it. There's there's there's still.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
But I say, look, if this is a concert, Jade
and Daniels had a great first two songs.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Oh my god, he's only he's only had two songs.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I'm not Hey, we only we only been there for
ten minutes, So I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I'm just saying we got a lot more we talked.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
We talk about because we do this a lot, buck, Yes,
and I get it because it's exciting. Because it's exciting
and we see these guys who are just crazy athletes.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
We watched.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Man, I'll never forget this, you know, I'll never forget
it because I lost the bet. And it was also
one of Matt Eberflush's three road winds in his career.
But when Justin Fields on that Thursday night football game
was running around on Bill Belichick's Patriot defense, I remember
the next day on Friday, people coming on and said,
just Justin Fields the best running quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, listen, I understand where you're.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You're coming from this. Look I saw you a little
scout though book you're coming from this, and like, yeah,
explosive athlete. Huh yeah, seven point three.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
But no, no, he wasn't at no point in his
career has been because and it's not a fault of
his that Noamar Jackson has been born and was living
in It's just like victim Man Binyama was coming up
for the draft. He says, kut Henderson's a hell of
a player. He may go number one if I was
never born, right, But that's the Lamar Jackson was born
(11:10):
right at his agent's last Mama gave birth to him,
and as a result, he'd been the best running quarterback
in the league since he walked in it. So it's like,
sometimes you have guys that will reach a peak, but
to me to hit the rushmore to be there day
in day out, And it's part of the reason why
Mahomes is still there despite not not necessarily covering himself
(11:31):
in glory in the Super Bowl last year. Are having
kind of the counting stats that you would expect. His
counting stats pale in comparison to the other three guys,
especially from last season.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
But the King state of King, right, and.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
When these guys go head to head, he's the one
that walks out victorious. And a lot of times it's
because I just watched him do something that I didn't
think people could do.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
I mean that that is true when you're talking about
the King state of King. But then Joe Burrow slays
the King, but he doesn't get all that. I mean,
I just understand. I understand what you're saying and what
we're talking about when it comes to the quarterback landscape,
and some would say that QB wins aren't a real
stat because team stats.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Not sure whatever.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
But we have to valuate quarterbacks on winning games because
we talked about Tom Brady being the goat because of
the rings, so it has to be in that. Look,
I think going back to the origin of the conversation
when we talk about the Bills and Josh Allen and
getting over the hunt, like I don't know what more
Josh Allen could do. I agree when it comes to
(12:38):
playing in the game, not turning the ball over, playing
almost flawless when it comes to it, they just haven't
been able to dispatch the boogeyman.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well I suppose, I guess he could have converted one
of two of them to his pushes.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
But I feel I get you.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I mean, he would give you a heart good like that.
That offensive line needs to get a greater push. Yeah,
but I mean it's it's a significant factor. Look, I'm
if I'm Brandi Bean. I understand why Brandon Bean was
kind of had a loss for words when it comes
to like, what do they have to do because they
beat him in the regular season and then couldn't beat
him in the pour season. They've had him at home,
they've had him on the road, they just can't find.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
The way to figure it out. Is tough. It's tough
you the Buffalo Bills, because at some point you can.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Be like, we wasted Josh Allen's prime years because we
weren't able to we weren't able to get.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Past I mean that. But you know that's the tragedy
and beauty is sports at the end of it. Golly,
I was watching I think it was ironically enough Kirk Cousins,
which I kind of scoffed at at the time, but quarterback. Yeah,
(13:49):
but he was saying that the only way to end
the season happiest and lifting the Lombardi Trophy. So by definition,
I mean he's thirty one. Team's gonna be missing happy.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Different degrees of success right like, and it's interesting like
Washington right now, things feel good, you know, NFC Championship birth.
But hey, that team comes out and starts out four
and seven.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Those those throwback uniforms that have all my people excited again.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I'll just you know, things can change, things can change quickly.
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Washington on the odd couple here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh,
you know, Bucky, you're obviously heavily involved in high school
football the head coach nooi Cornada Hills head coaches.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad, MG Doll.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I was just double checking though, because, uh, you know,
I was in, I say involved, barely involved. I know
a lot of people who co worked down at Long Beach, Polly,
So I'll go to the practice on so. Uh, I'm
always shocked to find out that that kid who is
like a whole head taller than me and two hundred
pounds every to me, still has like.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
A speaky voice, you know. You know, hey, coach, you
give me a ride, Like, what do you mean you're thirty?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Anyway, Teddy Bridgewater had either retired or was not in
the NFL for a while, right, and was coaching down
at Miami Northwestern, where he went to high school. Uh,
and was in and out we went back to he
went actually took snaps in the playoffs against the Commanders
(16:51):
Crazy when Golf was knocked out with a Art was
evaluated for a concussion of coming back in the game,
which was a moment like damn, this is when you
actually only become really important at work, right, But Bridgewater
was really important at the job he was doing before,
which it seemed to me was volunteering as the head
coach at Miami Northwestern and was suspended from his position
(17:14):
for allegedly providing impermissible benefits to his players.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So clearly we had another like Lloyd Howell.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Junior, where they're going to the strip club to figure
everything out, you know, player bonding they called it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You know, they're studying for the saight. No, No, that's
not what he was doing.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
He was buying ubers, helping kids get home, that type
of thing, helping kids pay for the different aspects of
their recovery needed, basically, from as far as I can tell,
and it's something.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
That you see a lot in just the high school.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Sports system in general, Teddy Bridgewater was filling in the
gaps yep, that exists between what families can do for
their kids, what schools can do for their kids, and
what kids need. And that to me is one of
those where it's like, man, I promissible benefits all okay, man,
(18:07):
if I'm buying it's a difference between bind somebody a
sandwich of buying somebody Lamborghini.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Yeah, it's it's really unfortunate because he got he got
painted in a in a bad light, and I felt
like he got caught up in some administrative stuff that
was really not really about these situations, but more so
trying to put a smudge on him. This is the
guy that came back to is Alma Mater, led them
to a title state championship his only year as the
(18:34):
head coach, did a lot for the community and the kids,
and it appeared by all accounts that his intention and
his heart were pure when it came to helping the
kids in the community. He talked about not having them
walk through dangerous neighborhoods. So that's why he had the
Uber thing pregame meal like simple things, not simple things,
(18:55):
but things that man enhanced the overall experience.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
And I'm sure that it was He's going to be.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Row numbers right here.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I spent fourteen thousand dollars on players training camp and
it broke down like this, seven hundred dollars a week
for uber rides, thirteen hundred dollars a week for recovery
services and twenty two hundred dollars a week for pregame meals.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What a criminal. I mean, I'm under the jail.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
It's just it's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's hard enough.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
And the thing is is a common theme for teachers,
because teachers digging their pockets a lot because they don't
have the supplies for their students. So to me, it's
a common deal. It's just unfortunate that it's become this
mess that has become. But hass off to him for
doing what he was doing for his his team, his
kids and those things. And hopefully at some point when
(19:48):
it's all sitting done and he's done playing, he can
go back to his community and get back to coaching
because he did a really good job of helping his
team in his community and I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
And Teddy Bridgewater is a I who seemingly has ingratiated
himself almost in every community that it was in like
I am. Obviously, he started in Minnesota, didn't work out there,
had the injury, and then kind of was at that
point from there a career backup. But in New Orleans
(20:18):
was now New Orleans is a town that loves their
ball players in general, but in New Orleans, Teddy Bridgewater
was really appreciated because not only did he go five
and oher with Sean Payton one year and just started
quarterback when Drew got hurt, but also Teddy Bridgewater was
famous for riding his bike to go to high school
football games.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Oh and like I told you, I grew up Louisiana.
What you do on the weekends.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Friday you go watch high school football, Saturday you go
watch college football, and then Sunday he watched the Saints, right,
and then that's that's about covers it for about twenty
so weeks out the year, and then the other the
other ones you have Thanks Christmas and all that, you know,
Like that's.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
About that, right, you know what I'm saying. You know,
maybe you go on vacation.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
But so Teddy d Bridgewater was just seems to me
to be a guy who ingratiates himself and every community
he's in the fact that he keeps getting these backup
quarterback jobs. They're calling Teddy Bridgewater from Miami to be like, hey,
would you like to come and be our backup quarterback
for Week sixteen? Like we like you know the Lions
and the team had lost two games, and they're like
(21:21):
the team with Super Bowl aspirations super Bowl. For some
of the Bowl favorites, it's like, you know what, We've
had a guy all year back into everything off running
the scout team, but we rather Teddy Bridgewalk Teddy.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Bridgewall to come through handle this. I think it speaks
to who he is as a person. The same person
that people revere as a high school coach is the
same person that you want as your backup quarterback because
he's going to.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Do right by the start and everybody else, you know what,
and now it's time for us to do right.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
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odd couple, Tony, you're talking with Martin Weiss and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Tony, thanks for joining.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Us, Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Guys, appreciate it, Tony. And you know you're locked in
with the Dallas Cowboys and everything here. So I just
want to ask you, were you ever held a hostage
by a hand shake deal and making eye contact and
smiling or just basically what's going on here with Jerry
seemingly bypassing David Mulagetta for whatever reason.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
Yeah, it's kind of interesting. It seems like around here
is kind of the narrative when it comes to signing
their extending your star players. Honestly, it's never happened in
my lifetime. I've always been told you got to get
everything and writing, and you know, maybe that's Jerry deflecting
some of the good faith and the negotiation and him
(23:34):
making reference to he's under contract. I will say this,
I think Mica has handled it very professionally because I
don't know under the environment it's taking place now, him
going out to training camp and not participating. To me,
it'd be hard to hold my words and not have
(23:55):
an animosity. And I think Micah again, I think everyone
knows that he's got to get paid and he deserves
to be paid as one of the top players NFL.
But I think Jerry that's kind of what his narrative
has been as far as negotiating with the star players.
And I think every year everyone asks why hasn't this
been done already as far as the sour cap, But uh,
(24:19):
you know, I think that's that's Jerry. Uh you know,
he's done it for so many years, and uh, Honestly,
when you look at the sour cap, it really hasn't
bowed very well for him. And I just don't think
a non quarterback is someone that Jerry is really excited
about playing. But we all know Michael will be out
there on game, hopefully for you know, the Eagles game.
(24:43):
But right now, I think Jerry is just playing the
hand that hey, you're under contract, and uh, if I
want to extend it. That's something we're gonna have to
go whatever that was said with his handshake. But again,
it's it's all about if you're in the in the
business of playing football as of players part of the game,
and you know that's the that's kind of the poster
(25:05):
that Jerry's taking right now.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
You know, here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Have you haven't been in locker rooms, particularly that locker
room as a Super Bowl champion? How does the rest
of the team view Jerry Jones when he has shown
that he has a history of not taking care of
his players without a little acrimony when it comes to
the contract negotiation.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Well, it's interesting because you know, we go out to
the Star it's an amazing facility and you know some
of those older players that were invided back by Brian
Schottenheimer and it's a great day. But you know, I
think I think that Jerry's thinking sometimes is that, you know,
you're part of this Cowboys brand and a lot of
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things going to come along with that and kind of
lose sight of the business aspect of getting your best player.
But I think guys aren't going to admit that. I mean,
that's something you don't talk about I mean you have
guys i's uh, reaching out on social media and communicating
that way and hopefully supporting one another. But you know,
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it's a game you have to play, and I think
as a player, it's you take it as a you know,
it's part of the profession. You want to make as
much as you can while you have the opportunity. We
know how important the first, that first and second contract
is as far as getting extended and being able to
finish out your career right. But I don't think there's
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any animosity. I think that people know that a part
of that organization to serve as a player. Yeah, I
mean we want to we want to get them signed.
I mean everyone everyone. If they're serious about making a
run this year, which I think they have the capability
of it, they got to have their best player and
that's Michael Parsons without a doubt. I mean there's a
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lot of plans I think that Matt Eberflus has for
him in this defense and for this defense to be
as great as it can and potentially with Michael Parsons,
he's got to be part of it.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
So from there to Terry McLaurin, another hold in situation,
another situation where you know a little acrimonious over there
in the NFC East, but talking about having a young
quarterback missing his number one weapon through training camp and
also again another contraction scenario and McLaurin one of the
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better players on Washington to Jade and Daniels obviously the
most important player on Washington missing one of the better players.
You know you've played the offensive line. How can you
speak to how that impacts a young quarterback?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Well, I played, I played the defense. No, it's okay,
but no, I think you know this. To be able
to have the chemistry with your with your star receiver
and number one receiver, you got to get the reps in.
It can't OTAs and you know things that you know
these players are missing out on. Uh, look, you can
(28:00):
only get one shot at the big money and you're
just trying to do as much as you can. And uh,
you know there's a shelf life or when you can
really into your your prime. And I think guys understand that,
you know, Jayden Daniels, all these quarterbacks, they understand It's like,
you know, I'm going to get mine someday and I
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want you to get yours. And so I think there's
no I think every player understands the nature of the business,
and I think management gms it's their job to get
those things done before uh, it comes to a situation
like you see. But you know, sometimes again it's it's
(28:41):
part of the process, and you know the biggest important
thing is that they're there for week one and you know,
now with the you know, the the training camps and
the minimum minimize hitting, I think more it's, uh, you're
getting the timing down and getting some chemistry with your quarterback,
and you know, I think that that's that's the way
(29:02):
it is in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
I want to go back to the Cowboys because you
mentioned having alumni data legends going out to the Star
because Brian Schottenheimer, Uh, what do you've seen from Brian Schottenheimer.
What do you like about what he potentially can do
with the Cowboys now he's the head coach.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Well yeah, well, I think I think when you look
at Mike McCarthy, I think there's always this notion he
seems like, you know, this big guy on the sidelines,
look like a guy that's probably had a tour, you know,
likes to have a cold beard, and so you automatically
think this guy is, you know, one of the fellows.
But not to be saying any negative about coach McCarthy,
(29:41):
I think he's done a tremendous job of his crew.
But I think Mike, excuse me, Brian Schottenheimer's interjected this
type of different energy and and and exuded and when
we were out there, you could tell that there was
this He's a younger, he's a younger coach. I think
he does it a different way. He's all about being positive,
high energy, tempo in the building. On the field, Uh,
(30:05):
you know, keeping it loose, but you know, guess what,
we're going to pay attention to detail. And I think
it's a different voice. And that's the sense that we
got when we're out there for and spending the whole
day of going through meetings and and you know, talking
to the players and giving our experience, because I think
that's something that as a player, once you're gone, you
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still love being around in an environment, even if you've
been gone that long. So I think that he gets that.
And you know, just talking to trainers and equipping the
guys that Brian Schottenheimer under his very short time so
far as a head coach. It wasn't like that with
Mike McCarthy, and I always thought it was totally the opposite.
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But I think, to me, if I'm looking at this team,
I really think Brian Schottenheimer is really going to be
a difference this year. I really do. You know, coach
can only do so much with his voice, but I
mean his voice is nothing but energy, being positive, Uh,
you know, guys, understanding the you know the scheme, and
(31:08):
really a lot of support. And I don't care if
you've been in the league ten years or two years.
You need that from a head coach. And you know
that's right away. That's what we noticed is just uh,
the energy and and just a sense of urgency and
you know, we're going to be We're going to rEFInd
and we're going to mentally be prepared. And I think
(31:30):
that that comes with his h his type of energy
and and I think that really boes well with the
with the team, especially for Brian Schottenheimer, because he wants it.
I mean, he wants to be successful. And really I
think Jerry is sometimes it's a little misleading, but I
really think Brian Schottenheimer has really changed that. You know,
as I mentioned as an example, having the legends out
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and being around, you know, the players, and you know
that's something that Mike McCarthy really didn't endorse.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
You know, I think you said, because Mike McCarthy, for
sure is not some energy would not be the first, second, third.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Or fifteenth adjutant that would come to mind when I
would discuss Mike McCarthy. Quarterback. Whispered maybe, but energy not
so much. Toddy can see us.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Thank you for joining us defensive tackles, college football Hall
of Famer and two time Super Bowl champion with those
Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Thank you so much for coming on the show today,
my friend.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Hey, thanks Ellis
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see these comments Bucky by Bill's general manager Brandon Bean
in reference to the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, he said, quote,
it's a play here or a play there. We're close,
but we can't just prepare the team to beat the Chiefs.
(02:16):
There are a lot of good teams in the AFC.
I don't think we're far away. We just have to
make a stop here or there. We haven't made the
stop we needed. We haven't made the stop when we
needed to make them. We feel like we've upgraded our
defense for that reason. We have to get the key stops.
Bucky Brooks, your thoughts on Brandon Bean and his team
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building philosophy.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Look, I agree with him.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
He can't solely beat the team build the team to
beat the Kansaity Chiefs the way that it operates normally
in the National Football League. You build your team to
win a division, and then you keep in mind the
heavyweights that you know you may see in the conference
or in the other conference. So while he can't specifically
build the team to beat the Can's City Chiefs, he
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must be aware of what is going to take to
knock them off. But look, man, the Chiefs have been
their boogeyman. They have just not been able to knock
them off. Despite having teams that were good enough to
beat them, they just haven't been able to get it done.
And they can change the personnel and do all the
other stuff, but to me, it's far more mental than
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anything else when it comes to dealing with them. They
have to understand how to take them in the deep onone,
knock them out. They beat them at the recor seat,
and they just in the postseas they haven't been able
to do it.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
And it's a lot of you know, Chris Jones pushes
Dion Dawkins back into Josh Allen and he overthrows digs
on what would have been the touchdown or that age.
He's right that they are close, and I ultimately do
agree with him. I also just kind of wonder, you know,
(03:51):
I just wonder when he kind of like decided this
was the way he was going to go about this,
or if this is a hymn thing, if the whole
team and I promise I'll land the plane. Because here's
the rub. The Chiefs sure have had a stranglehold over
the AFC over the last what four years? Yeah, for
the last or five to last six Super Bowls, right
with us Joe Burrow sneaking in in between. So I
(04:16):
get why somebody would say the Chiefs have knocked us
out of the playoffs every year. But the reality is
the Chiefs were knocking anybody out of the AFC playoffs
those years, right, you know what I'm saying. If you
just play it out that way, you know, say they
were gonna knock whoever.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
They saw out.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
You have to build a team, and you have to
have a strategy of team building. In my opinion, that's
going to win you most football games.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You have to be able to say, more often than not,
if I implement this strategy, I will win. And I
think the number one quick essential example of that in
recent memory is the Philadelphia Eagles days. We are running
the ball. We do not want our quarterback to throw
the ball over thirty times, whether you like it or not,
(05:02):
whether you.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Think he's top five or not.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
We think he's top one, and we're gonna keep saying that,
but we don't want him to throw the ball thirty times. Yeah,
despite not throwing the ball thirty times, we are going
to pay our wide receivers because we need them. We
are going to pay our running backs because we need them.
On the defensive side of the ball, now, that's.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Where we might be able to do a little bargain Ben.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Shopping, Zach Bond, You're on one of the worst teams
in the NFL as a special teamer. You know what,
come on down company, All pro starting linebacker for us, right,
you know what I'm saying, and then drafting well, of course,
on the defensive side of the ball, there has been
a run on white kids named Cooper in their twenties now,
but they found one of them, put him at cornerback.
(05:41):
And then Quinnion Mitchell from Toledo. Those guys are first
year players making huge bom Pick six is in the
Super Bowl, right, they clearly have a strategy and a
thought process.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
This is how we are going to win more games
than not.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And I don't think that changed when they were nine
to one and then lost ten games in a row
or whatever it was to then be bounced out in
the playoffs in the first round the year in between
the two Super Bowl berth But it just shows you.
To me, that's their strategy and to me, Buffalo, that's
why I wonder when they got this, because yeah, I
(06:16):
agree with you, Brandon Bean. You should build a team
that stands on its own. You should be like, sure,
Borrow still leaving, but do your own thing, put your
own spin on it. But I wonder if this is
a recent relevation because you have Josh Allen, a quarterback,
the raining MVP in the NFL, and in the AFC
Championship game he went oh for however many on however
(06:38):
many twist pushes in a row, a play that you
didn't do that the Eagles do all the time. It
works well, and you lost that game. Essentially, I just
say lost a lot of winning. What is the winning
probability in that game by deciding not to have your
own short yardage thing with your own special guy.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, but everything is different, right. So that works for
Philadelphia partially because you have a quarterback that dead lifts
six hundred pounds and so everyone else is struggling doing
the quarterback sneak push push, But the Philadelphia Eagles are
uniquely qualified to be able to do it because the
special qualities are a quarterback and maybe the best offensive
line in football. The Buffalo Bills are on the right
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track because they're always in the conversation and it's very
difficult to look crack the code to make it to
a Super Bowl appearance. The can City Chiefs have been different.
I mean you talk about five appearances, three wins, whatever,
all those things that they've been able to accomplish in
this run terrific. But if the Buffalo Bills build their
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team specifically to be the kan City Chiefs, and what
if the Chiefs are not talk about the Baltimore Ravens,
it is stylistically they're different what you need because what
you need to defend the Baltimore Ravens, that physical running game,
Lamar Jackson, whatever, is not necessarily the same thing that
you need to be the kN City Chiefs. So and
(08:02):
Brandon Bean talks about I got to worry about some
other teams. He does have to have consideration. We got
to be able to stop the run. We need to
be able to have pastors to get after the quarterback.
We need to have some coverage guys, and all these
other things. So he's saying it in a nuanced way. Yes,
the King City Chiefs are in mind, but I also
have to be ready for anybody else as emerges as
(08:24):
a heavyweight contender this year.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And that's why I think that if you are building
your team with Kansas City and mind that that's shortsighted. Yes,
like it's it is very I get it that he
keep that the Boogeyman keeps coming.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But you got to.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Protect against everybody because Freddy Krueger might be next door,
you know what I And especially it's specially in the AFC, boy,
because I mean, it seems to me at this point
that there is pretty much one thing that all football
fans agree on, us the top four quarterbacks in the NFL,
(08:59):
the elites, Yeah, you know, the tier one the rushmore
right now, right now, that seems to be a consensus
across the board.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
To make sure. It just makes you real on the
same thing. So your four would be.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
My four would be Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Okay, cool, that's everyone. Okay, we're here on that.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
We can't agree with a lot as a country right now,
but we can That's something. It feels like we all
got square.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
That that is where the lion falls off.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
And you know, like there's a lot of controversy when
Jalen Hurst wasn't including in the top ten and people
talking to top five whatever. But that Mount Rushmore that
you speak to, I'm with you on that. And the
only one that I would say is bumping up against
that that I would expect to start chiseling his face
out would be the kid in Washington that is Jalen.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, but we gotta he's got it. There's there's there's still.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
But I say, look, if this is a concert, Jade
and Daniels had a great first two songs.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Oh my god, he's only he's only had two songs.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I'm not Hey, we only we only been there for
ten minutes, So I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I'm just saying we got a lot more we talked.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
We talk about because we do this a lot, buck, Yes,
and I get it because it's exciting. Because it's exciting
and we see these guys who are just crazy athletes.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
We watched.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Man, I'll never forget this, you know, I'll never forget
it because I lost the bet. And it was also
one of Matt Eberflush's three road winds in his career.
But when Justin Fields on that Thursday night football game
was running around on Bill Belichick's Patriot defense, I remember
the next day on Friday, people coming on and said,
just Justin Fields the best running quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, listen, I understand where you're.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You're coming from this. Look I saw you a little
scout though book you're coming from this, and like, yeah,
explosive athlete. Huh yeah, seven point three.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
But no, no, he wasn't at no point in his
career has been because and it's not a fault of
his that Noamar Jackson has been born and was living
in It's just like victim Man Binyama was coming up
for the draft. He says, kut Henderson's a hell of
a player. He may go number one if I was
never born, right, But that's the Lamar Jackson was born
(11:10):
right at his agent's last Mama gave birth to him,
and as a result, he'd been the best running quarterback
in the league since he walked in it. So it's like,
sometimes you have guys that will reach a peak, but
to me to hit the rushmore to be there day
in day out, And it's part of the reason why
Mahomes is still there despite not not necessarily covering himself
(11:31):
in glory in the Super Bowl last year. Are having
kind of the counting stats that you would expect. His
counting stats pale in comparison to the other three guys,
especially from last season.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
But the King state of King, right, and.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
When these guys go head to head, he's the one
that walks out victorious. And a lot of times it's
because I just watched him do something that I didn't
think people could do.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
I mean that that is true when you're talking about
the King state of King. But then Joe Burrow slays
the King, but he doesn't get all that. I mean,
I just understand. I understand what you're saying and what
we're talking about when it comes to the quarterback landscape,
and some would say that QB wins aren't a real
stat because team stats.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Not sure whatever.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
But we have to valuate quarterbacks on winning games because
we talked about Tom Brady being the goat because of
the rings, so it has to be in that. Look,
I think going back to the origin of the conversation
when we talk about the Bills and Josh Allen and
getting over the hunt, like I don't know what more
Josh Allen could do. I agree when it comes to
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playing in the game, not turning the ball over, playing
almost flawless when it comes to it, they just haven't
been able to dispatch the boogeyman.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well I suppose, I guess he could have converted one
of two of them to his pushes.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
But I feel I get you.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I mean, he would give you a heart good like that.
That offensive line needs to get a greater push. Yeah,
but I mean it's it's a significant factor. Look, I'm
if I'm Brandi Bean. I understand why Brandon Bean was
kind of had a loss for words when it comes
to like, what do they have to do because they
beat him in the regular season and then couldn't beat
him in the pour season. They've had him at home,
they've had him on the road, they just can't find.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
The way to figure it out. Is tough. It's tough
you the Buffalo Bills, because at some point you can.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Be like, we wasted Josh Allen's prime years because we
weren't able to we weren't able to get.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Past I mean that. But you know that's the tragedy
and beauty is sports at the end of it. Golly,
I was watching I think it was ironically enough Kirk Cousins,
which I kind of scoffed at at the time, but quarterback. Yeah,
(13:49):
but he was saying that the only way to end
the season happiest and lifting the Lombardi Trophy. So by definition,
I mean he's thirty one. Team's gonna be missing happy.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Different degrees of success right like, and it's interesting like
Washington right now, things feel good, you know, NFC Championship birth.
But hey, that team comes out and starts out four
and seven.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Those those throwback uniforms that have all my people excited again.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I'll just you know, things can change, things can change quickly.
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Washington on the odd couple here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh,
you know, Bucky, you're obviously heavily involved in high school
football the head coach nooi Cornada Hills head coaches.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad, MG Doll.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I was just double checking though, because, uh, you know,
I was in, I say involved, barely involved. I know
a lot of people who co worked down at Long Beach, Polly,
So I'll go to the practice on so. Uh, I'm
always shocked to find out that that kid who is
like a whole head taller than me and two hundred
pounds every to me, still has like.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
A speaky voice, you know. You know, hey, coach, you
give me a ride, Like, what do you mean you're thirty?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Anyway, Teddy Bridgewater had either retired or was not in
the NFL for a while, right, and was coaching down
at Miami Northwestern, where he went to high school. Uh,
and was in and out we went back to he
went actually took snaps in the playoffs against the Commanders
(16:51):
Crazy when Golf was knocked out with a Art was
evaluated for a concussion of coming back in the game,
which was a moment like damn, this is when you
actually only become really important at work, right, But Bridgewater
was really important at the job he was doing before,
which it seemed to me was volunteering as the head
coach at Miami Northwestern and was suspended from his position
(17:14):
for allegedly providing impermissible benefits to his players.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So clearly we had another like Lloyd Howell.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Junior, where they're going to the strip club to figure
everything out, you know, player bonding they called it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You know, they're studying for the saight. No, No, that's
not what he was doing.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
He was buying ubers, helping kids get home, that type
of thing, helping kids pay for the different aspects of
their recovery needed, basically, from as far as I can tell,
and it's something.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
That you see a lot in just the high school.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Sports system in general, Teddy Bridgewater was filling in the
gaps yep, that exists between what families can do for
their kids, what schools can do for their kids, and
what kids need. And that to me is one of
those where it's like, man, I promissible benefits all okay, man,
(18:07):
if I'm buying it's a difference between bind somebody a
sandwich of buying somebody Lamborghini.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Yeah, it's it's really unfortunate because he got he got
painted in a in a bad light, and I felt
like he got caught up in some administrative stuff that
was really not really about these situations, but more so
trying to put a smudge on him. This is the
guy that came back to is Alma Mater, led them
to a title state championship his only year as the
(18:34):
head coach, did a lot for the community and the kids,
and it appeared by all accounts that his intention and
his heart were pure when it came to helping the
kids in the community. He talked about not having them
walk through dangerous neighborhoods. So that's why he had the
Uber thing pregame meal like simple things, not simple things,
(18:55):
but things that man enhanced the overall experience.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
And I'm sure that it was He's going to be.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Row numbers right here.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I spent fourteen thousand dollars on players training camp and
it broke down like this, seven hundred dollars a week
for uber rides, thirteen hundred dollars a week for recovery
services and twenty two hundred dollars a week for pregame meals.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What a criminal. I mean, I'm under the jail.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
It's just it's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's hard enough.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
And the thing is is a common theme for teachers,
because teachers digging their pockets a lot because they don't
have the supplies for their students. So to me, it's
a common deal. It's just unfortunate that it's become this
mess that has become. But hass off to him for
doing what he was doing for his his team, his
kids and those things. And hopefully at some point when
(19:48):
it's all sitting done and he's done playing, he can
go back to his community and get back to coaching
because he did a really good job of helping his
team in his community and I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
And Teddy Bridgewater is a I who seemingly has ingratiated
himself almost in every community that it was in like
I am. Obviously, he started in Minnesota, didn't work out there,
had the injury, and then kind of was at that
point from there a career backup. But in New Orleans
(20:18):
was now New Orleans is a town that loves their
ball players in general, but in New Orleans, Teddy Bridgewater
was really appreciated because not only did he go five
and oher with Sean Payton one year and just started
quarterback when Drew got hurt, but also Teddy Bridgewater was
famous for riding his bike to go to high school
football games.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Oh and like I told you, I grew up Louisiana.
What you do on the weekends.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Friday you go watch high school football, Saturday you go
watch college football, and then Sunday he watched the Saints, right,
and then that's that's about covers it for about twenty
so weeks out the year, and then the other the
other ones you have Thanks Christmas and all that, you know,
Like that's.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
About that, right, you know what I'm saying. You know,
maybe you go on vacation.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
But so Teddy d Bridgewater was just seems to me
to be a guy who ingratiates himself and every community
he's in the fact that he keeps getting these backup
quarterback jobs. They're calling Teddy Bridgewater from Miami to be like, hey,
would you like to come and be our backup quarterback
for Week sixteen? Like we like you know the Lions
and the team had lost two games, and they're like
(21:21):
the team with Super Bowl aspirations super Bowl. For some
of the Bowl favorites, it's like, you know what, We've
had a guy all year back into everything off running
the scout team, but we rather Teddy Bridgewalk Teddy.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Bridgewall to come through handle this. I think it speaks
to who he is as a person. The same person
that people revere as a high school coach is the
same person that you want as your backup quarterback because
he's going to.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Do right by the start and everybody else, you know what,
and now it's time for us to do right.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Just can't go wrong. Kicking it over to Mashi Blanos.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
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Speaker 4 (22:10):
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find a backup quarterback over there. We'll find our guests
right now. Tony Casius, two times Super Bowl champion and
College Football Hall of Famer, joining us now on the
odd couple, Tony, you're talking with Martin Weiss and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Tony, thanks for joining.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Us, Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Guys, appreciate it, Tony. And you know you're locked in
with the Dallas Cowboys and everything here. So I just
want to ask you, were you ever held a hostage
by a hand shake deal and making eye contact and
smiling or just basically what's going on here with Jerry
seemingly bypassing David Mulagetta for whatever reason.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
Yeah, it's kind of interesting. It seems like around here
is kind of the narrative when it comes to signing
their extending your star players. Honestly, it's never happened in
my lifetime. I've always been told you got to get
everything and writing, and you know, maybe that's Jerry deflecting
some of the good faith and the negotiation and him
(23:34):
making reference to he's under contract. I will say this,
I think Mica has handled it very professionally because I
don't know under the environment it's taking place now, him
going out to training camp and not participating. To me,
it'd be hard to hold my words and not have
(23:55):
an animosity. And I think Micah again, I think everyone
knows that he's got to get paid and he deserves
to be paid as one of the top players NFL.
But I think Jerry that's kind of what his narrative
has been as far as negotiating with the star players.
And I think every year everyone asks why hasn't this
been done already as far as the sour cap, But uh,
(24:19):
you know, I think that's that's Jerry. Uh you know,
he's done it for so many years, and uh, Honestly,
when you look at the sour cap, it really hasn't
bowed very well for him. And I just don't think
a non quarterback is someone that Jerry is really excited
about playing. But we all know Michael will be out
there on game, hopefully for you know, the Eagles game.
(24:43):
But right now, I think Jerry is just playing the
hand that hey, you're under contract, and uh, if I
want to extend it. That's something we're gonna have to
go whatever that was said with his handshake. But again,
it's it's all about if you're in the in the
business of playing football as of players part of the game,
and you know that's the that's kind of the poster
(25:05):
that Jerry's taking right now.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
You know, here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Have you haven't been in locker rooms, particularly that locker
room as a Super Bowl champion? How does the rest
of the team view Jerry Jones when he has shown
that he has a history of not taking care of
his players without a little acrimony when it comes to
the contract negotiation.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Well, it's interesting because you know, we go out to
the Star it's an amazing facility and you know some
of those older players that were invided back by Brian
Schottenheimer and it's a great day. But you know, I
think I think that Jerry's thinking sometimes is that, you know,
you're part of this Cowboys brand and a lot of
(25:46):
things going to come along with that and kind of
lose sight of the business aspect of getting your best player.
But I think guys aren't going to admit that. I mean,
that's something you don't talk about I mean you have
guys i's uh, reaching out on social media and communicating
that way and hopefully supporting one another. But you know,
(26:08):
it's a game you have to play, and I think
as a player, it's you take it as a you know,
it's part of the profession. You want to make as
much as you can while you have the opportunity. We
know how important the first, that first and second contract
is as far as getting extended and being able to
finish out your career right. But I don't think there's
(26:30):
any animosity. I think that people know that a part
of that organization to serve as a player. Yeah, I
mean we want to we want to get them signed.
I mean everyone everyone. If they're serious about making a
run this year, which I think they have the capability
of it, they got to have their best player and
that's Michael Parsons without a doubt. I mean there's a
(26:52):
lot of plans I think that Matt Eberflus has for
him in this defense and for this defense to be
as great as it can and potentially with Michael Parsons,
he's got to be part of it.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
So from there to Terry McLaurin, another hold in situation,
another situation where you know a little acrimonious over there
in the NFC East, but talking about having a young
quarterback missing his number one weapon through training camp and
also again another contraction scenario and McLaurin one of the
(27:25):
better players on Washington to Jade and Daniels obviously the
most important player on Washington missing one of the better players.
You know you've played the offensive line. How can you
speak to how that impacts a young quarterback?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Well, I played, I played the defense. No, it's okay,
but no, I think you know this. To be able
to have the chemistry with your with your star receiver
and number one receiver, you got to get the reps in.
It can't OTAs and you know things that you know
these players are missing out on. Uh, look, you can
(28:00):
only get one shot at the big money and you're
just trying to do as much as you can. And uh,
you know there's a shelf life or when you can
really into your your prime. And I think guys understand that,
you know, Jayden Daniels, all these quarterbacks, they understand It's like,
you know, I'm going to get mine someday and I
(28:20):
want you to get yours. And so I think there's
no I think every player understands the nature of the business,
and I think management gms it's their job to get
those things done before uh, it comes to a situation
like you see. But you know, sometimes again it's it's
(28:41):
part of the process, and you know the biggest important
thing is that they're there for week one and you know,
now with the you know, the the training camps and
the minimum minimize hitting, I think more it's, uh, you're
getting the timing down and getting some chemistry with your quarterback,
and you know, I think that that's that's the way
(29:02):
it is in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
I want to go back to the Cowboys because you
mentioned having alumni data legends going out to the Star
because Brian Schottenheimer, Uh, what do you've seen from Brian Schottenheimer.
What do you like about what he potentially can do
with the Cowboys now he's the head coach.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Well yeah, well, I think I think when you look
at Mike McCarthy, I think there's always this notion he
seems like, you know, this big guy on the sidelines,
look like a guy that's probably had a tour, you know,
likes to have a cold beard, and so you automatically
think this guy is, you know, one of the fellows.
But not to be saying any negative about coach McCarthy,
(29:41):
I think he's done a tremendous job of his crew.
But I think Mike, excuse me, Brian Schottenheimer's interjected this
type of different energy and and and exuded and when
we were out there, you could tell that there was
this He's a younger, he's a younger coach. I think
he does it a different way. He's all about being positive,
high energy, tempo in the building. On the field, Uh,
(30:05):
you know, keeping it loose, but you know, guess what,
we're going to pay attention to detail. And I think
it's a different voice. And that's the sense that we
got when we're out there for and spending the whole
day of going through meetings and and you know, talking
to the players and giving our experience, because I think
that's something that as a player, once you're gone, you
(30:25):
still love being around in an environment, even if you've
been gone that long. So I think that he gets that.
And you know, just talking to trainers and equipping the
guys that Brian Schottenheimer under his very short time so
far as a head coach. It wasn't like that with
Mike McCarthy, and I always thought it was totally the opposite.
(30:48):
But I think, to me, if I'm looking at this team,
I really think Brian Schottenheimer is really going to be
a difference this year. I really do. You know, coach
can only do so much with his voice, but I
mean his voice is nothing but energy, being positive, Uh,
you know, guys, understanding the you know the scheme, and
(31:08):
really a lot of support. And I don't care if
you've been in the league ten years or two years.
You need that from a head coach. And you know
that's right away. That's what we noticed is just uh,
the energy and and just a sense of urgency and
you know, we're going to be We're going to rEFInd
and we're going to mentally be prepared. And I think
(31:30):
that that comes with his h his type of energy
and and I think that really boes well with the
with the team, especially for Brian Schottenheimer, because he wants it.
I mean, he wants to be successful. And really I
think Jerry is sometimes it's a little misleading, but I
really think Brian Schottenheimer has really changed that. You know,
as I mentioned as an example, having the legends out
(31:51):
and being around, you know, the players, and you know
that's something that Mike McCarthy really didn't endorse.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
You know, I think you said, because Mike McCarthy, for
sure is not some energy would not be the first, second, third.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Or fifteenth adjutant that would come to mind when I
would discuss Mike McCarthy. Quarterback. Whispered maybe, but energy not
so much. Toddy can see us.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Thank you for joining us defensive tackles, college football Hall
of Famer and two time Super Bowl champion with those
Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Thank you so much for coming on the show today,
my friend.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Hey, thanks Ellis
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