August 28, 2025 • 30 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Kelvin tell us why they agree with Jerry Jones when he says the Dallas Cowboys are in a better position moving forward after trading Micah Parsons to the Packers, and discuss whether Micah or Jordan Love is under more pressure moving forward in Green Bay.
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
That's right. One more hour for you boys, and what
a show it has been.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Make sure you check out the podcast and if you
had to get a chance to, because of course, we
went straight into the trade, Jerry Jones trading Michael Parsons
to the Green Bay Packers couple of first round picks.
There he's getting one hundred and eighty eight million dollars
forty seven annually, one hundred and thirty six guaranteed, the
highest paid non quarterback in history, which, by the way,
(00:55):
I mean, how long is that gonna last? We do
that every time somebody gets it the highest paid non quarterback,
We'll do it again.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I don't know, Bud, because like he's the highest paid
on quarterback by.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
A look a look at me. Look Abduel Carter.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
In about two three years we're gonna be saying the
same conversation. It's you know, it's an absurd amount of money. However,
if I'd have told you this ten fifteen years ago,
we'd been you know, uh Khalil Mack money was crazy money.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Aid Yeah, hutcheson, he got to get back. Now that's
some money.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
That is an underlying interesting third day of this topic
story real quick.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Aiden Hutchinson is up next.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Now, the guy in your division is the highest paid
not quarterback by a large margin. And they played the
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of the hour. We're gonna do last call. I know
a lot of you been wanting to get in. We've
had a couple interviews. We've been running and gunning with this,
so all this news, so we appreciate you hanging out
(02:24):
with us with that. All right, So Mark, let's get
to some sound from Jerry. He had a lot to say.
We haven't had a chance to hear too much. So
here's Jerry Jones on what happened today.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
But we have the highest paid player in the NFL
at quarterback, and we made that commitment last year and
we're proud we made it and had everything to do
with this decision. Everything it is give us every opportunity
with Dak, Prescott and Lamb and the base that we've
got to win now. This gives us a better chance
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to be a better team than we have been the
last few years since Mike has been here. Not any
negative on Michael, but we're trying to get better. We're
trying to stop the run and stay on the hunt.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I don't disagree that potentially long term, yes, because obviously
there's a greater sum than just one minie. You got
all these picks and then who knows what they do
with the picks, you might get more players.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I understand that.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I guess my frustration would be and I'm not a
Cowboy fan, but if I'm a Cowboy fan, if not,
now then win.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
How many years do I have to hear? Well, what
this is going to do? This?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Well, you don't even know we're about to do I
got these watch when we do it. My son is
twenty eight. I'm making it up. He's never seen it
in NFC Championship game. Sure, my twenty two year old
son has never seen us with a Great America's team
documentary with him it and Michael Irvan and Troig mean
at the triplets and all I saw, like I'm telling
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old fable tales wives hells to him, to my son
or my daughter, is what I think. You know, a
true Cowboy fan can be feeling. So yes, I understand
that if he were a general manager who had a
long amount of years ahead of him. You know, he's
fifty five and I got a whole lot of going
on your Brad Holmes in Detroit. You know we're doing
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this for the long term. I understand it, Jerry Man.
I mean, like I said, if you're trying to he's
eighty two years old, and I keep bringing it, I'll
only be saying if he's trying to win now and
he's trying to get the monkey off his back. To me,
you did not do that giving up your best player
your team. Not just a really good defensive player. He's
the best player on your team and one of the
best in the league. And so doing that to me
just set you back. And you just don't know what
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it does to the team as a whole. Do guys
start to kind of what stay.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
A lot of guys have said about how they're not
they don't like the leadership, the timeline that week, not
necessarily I mean the Twitter or x timeline, and they've.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Been saying they're not happy about this because guys want
to win, because I don't know, man, these contracts are guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I'm trying to win now. You just never know.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Maybe this is my last year and I'm trying to
win and you just got rid of the guy that
gave me another chance to win. So yes, Jerry, I
totally hear you. In the law run maybe just maybe,
but you know what Al's gonna happened. You get a
couple of draft picks in the first round and they
ain't all that they are seeds. They end up being
CC plus. You got an eight plus guy who won't
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know nothing but twelve sacks every year period, and you
you hope that they'd come out to be that. But
how many times have we seen guys be a bus
or maybe not even a bus?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Just all right, Jadavian County cool, he's good.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I would say the Cowboys historically over the last give
it like. I mean, obviously, finding Dak in the fourth
round that is a strong win.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
E vanderschan a lot of these guys to get the
second deals.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
But some of these first or early round picks for
the Cowboys were good and really like played well. I
don't think the Dallas misses a ton early in the draft.
Ironically enough, though, one of them Mozzie Smith, a Michigan
former defensive tackle. He has been obstantibly now a mess
that you're trading for Kenny Clark and you have again
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can't stop the run. And that's that's calling job, that's
exactly the job.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Job.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, but I don't think that what Jerry just said
is necessarily incongruent. The issue that everyone has And the
issue that I have as well with this is the
order of operations. If you made this deal, if Jerry
Jones had traded Michael Parsons the day before the draft
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and gotten two first rounders, one gotten whatever the Cowboys
pick was this year, and then eighteen from green Bay
and then green Bay's next first rounder, I think that
we'd be looking at this in a much different light
because now you're adding two players, like if the Bengals
with Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Part of the reason why.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Theoretically they could have let Trey Henderson walk or not
extend him past this upcoming season because you were drafting
Schamar Stewart in the first round. Now part of the
problem is they took forever to de signed him those deals.
But that's at least uh intellectually congruent.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
With the plan.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
We don't like where our pass rusher is headed, even
though he's had record production. We don't want to offer
him a long term deal. We'll get a guy behind him.
That's the way you build a roster in the NFL.
Whether you have the machinations of what the actual payment
was obviously was the hang up there with this. With
this move, Jerry's looking at this roster. He made the
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point I was telling him soccer just off. It's like
Jerry is not about the Jay's gonna come out here
and say, I got the highest paid quarterback in football.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I got one of the highest pay receivers of football.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
We think we got we need to win today, and
I don't think that that's a crazy statement to make
when you've got the highest paid player, like you cut
that deal. Whether we think it was a good deal
or not. Jerry clearly did because he cut it. Do
you see what I'm saying. He gave him that no
trade clause. And so if you think that that is true,
then paying the highest paid quarterback the third or fourth
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highest paid receiver to maybe second to Seed Lamb. I
forget the exact numbers, though he's gotta be let start,
but third and fourth highest paid receiver in shiety, Lamb,
thank you high, but again highest when they signed the deal.
If you're gonna make that your the triplets all three
highest paid, you can't fill out the rest of your roster.
You're gonna look like the Lakers playing Magic Claver off
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the bench in Game five.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Because you got nobody else your trust. But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I didn't have to make him the highest paid because
if I do the deals earlier, then they don't have
to And with Dak, I don't have if I don't
have to wait, if I just do it early, if
that's your guy, there's something to identifying what you need early.
You go packers. They paid a bunch of money, but
in the long term, it's gonna be great. Remember we
were having these conversations four or five years ago, whatever
it is, maybe with Patrick Mahome, maybe five or six. Oh,
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he just got on that four hundred some million. Well
that looks pretty good now because it looked good. Thing
when you exactly when you stretch that thing out, you knew, well, shoot,
I ain't gonna lie the way he looking throwing no
look passes, behind the back, pass, left hand passes. All
he's doing is winning a bunch of games and MVP. Yeah,
that money is gonna be good. And so to me,
when you have that long term view, when you're a prognosticator,
(09:05):
I can look a little in the future. I can
have the wear with thal and some foresight to say
this is gonna make sense.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know what Dak is good. He may not be
Joe Montana might.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Hey, he may never have the career Troy Aikman, but David,
we might be able to win one with him.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Let's sign him now.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
But then you mess around and play and now you
gotta pay him sixty when he should have been a guy.
He should have been brock purtyish because Rock Party can
look in Dak and say, you ain't done nothing like
I've done already. Sure you've done nothing I've done to
warrant you making well, you know, sixteen seventeen, eighteen million
dollars more than me. So you took care of him.
Then he gets a Trevor Lawrence like deal. We all said, whoa.
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I mean, he hadn't really done, but okay, that's your future. Okay,
forty something million for your guy that you're gonna ride
this thing out with.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Okay, I'm not mad at that. Sixty is crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Sixty was crazy last year, year, before next year and
the next year. You can't get the deal where it's
gonna be crazy for five years. It has to be
crazy like it has to be creat for a year.
Two you can't have signed a deal with it. We're
permanently gonna think that deal was wild. So I agree
with you.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I am not knocking at Dak Prescott too at his best.
I think if Dak Prespott was the quarterback of the
Packers and not the Cowboys, we talk about an entirely
different light because of this, the attention that the Cowboys get.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Dak Prescott at his best has been a player.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Who received MVP votes in this league, a guy who
finished second in MVP voting I believe, or at least
was second up until week fifteen or whatever, like he
was right there, and then the next year kind of
fell off on the cliff. But just conceptually, this team
wasn't getting it done. You gonna look at this postseason.
This team hasn't been getting it done. And if again,
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if you had traded Michael Parsons at any point prior
to now, it would have been a better time to
do it. But if you just go back to the Gambler,
which again.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I didn't call Jerry that.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
He called himself that an eighth part Netflix documentary. And
I've lost enough money in poker to know you lost
the first big hand, right. You thought you had a
good hand, You went into the negotiation with Dak Prescott,
you got hosed you lost the second big hand. You
thought you had a better hand with Ceedee Lamb. You
got hosed in that negotiation. How many hands can you
afford to lose in a row? Jerry folded the cards
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in said I'm gonna keep my chips in my pocket
and try to continue to stay at the table, as
opposed to saying I'm gonna go all in again on
this roster and with a team that we all have
as a collective media have thought the Cowboys were gonna
be a disappointment this season, and all of us thought
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that Michael Parsons was going to be on that roster
Week one.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You've given out a lot of passes.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
You throwing a lot of bail because we've been giving
up five or six instances where he could have done
this diff He could have signed Dak Prescott earlier, save
somebody used that money for some other things. Maybe I'm
putting more guys around Micah, Ceedee Lamb and CDI was
trying to play a little big game. Let me see
who's gonna get signed, and we seeho the market is.
But he playing around. But maybe you signed him earlier again,
And my point is you trade they The story reports
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come out. They came to Jerry said, but you know,
we can trade Mike right now two years ago. So
he all of these missteps continue to be why you're
always a few guys short, because it could be not
to have to be a huge signing, but maybe you
just find a nice cornerback, a nice linebacker for a
nice salary. Nothing crazy shore adds to the team. Because
of that money you saved with Dak. You were paying
them forty five instead of sixty. That's fifteen. We could
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spress that out, spread that out a little bit. And
to me, these little small miscalculations that ultimately make him
look cool because he looks like I'm the big spender,
hurt the team and that's why we are where we are.
We're after a couple of injuries. The Lions had a
bunch of injuries. Now it bought them. It been been
the butt finally in the postseason, but they were at
the depth and they were able to withstand that and
still go fifteen to two and still beat down the
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Vikings a couple of times when they weren't supposed to.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't think that Jerry looked.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I don't think that at this time last year as
the DAK deals, the CD LAMB deals were getting done.
I don't think that Jerry felt like he looked cool
with being the big spender. I know that it was
a headline, but like, just because I'm really thinking about
this morning, man, if I was all ready for Jerry
versus Salary Cap Part three, salary Cap wins again, right,
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Jerry would be getting dragged across the board for getting
this deal done because of the timing. Now, whether or not,
I don't think the deal is even that crazy for
a guy like Michael Parsons. I think it's a good contract, right,
Like if it's a contract that if I was Jerry,
I would have.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Offered this contract to them.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
But Matt Moseley said it, and that and Matt Mosley
and Edward are too plugged in most Dallas guys that
you'll ever find listened to podcasts at the bottom of
the first hour to be able to catch that when
you listen to all of it, and I'm sure it'll
be a part of the best of too. But Matt
Moseley said it. He said Jerry was shick of getting
beat up on these deals, and Jerry, if he had
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signed this deal, Michael parsions. The next day, everybody would
have came out and said, Jerry was two years too
late on this deal, and that's why the Cowboys aren't
gonna win anything.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Now.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I was gonna come out and say, at least, and
here's the thing, if the Cowboys do, if they.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Do win something, now, let's say it.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I mean, nobody predicted that Washington was gonna be what
they were. Let's say the Cowboys go on a run
and have the magical season and they win thirteen games.
Jerry Jones by week ten will be doing those postgames
with his feet up, saying, I told y'all I had what.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It took to win. I didn't need to pay Michael
Parts a lot that money.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
He goes back to being the star of the show
and honestly put to seem in a better salary cap
position than it was yesterday. Now, not that it was
two years ago, but today today, in this.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Situation, I can get it, and I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
While his feet would be up, it would might as
well be Groundhog's day, because they'll go thirteen and four
and losing in the first round or the second round, obviously,
and then it will be having these same conversations because
he at this point he's created himself where it's only
a Super Bowl or bus Most teams do that, Lamar Jackson,
it would make sense, Josh Allen makes sense somehow the
Cowboys are in Super Bowl or bus.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, they don't have it.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
It's not even warranted because they don't even get close
regularly enough to.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
ANBA that man just like those guys.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
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Speaker 3 (15:14):
I know you've been want to jump in. We've been
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Speaker 4 (15:16):
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and that the Cowboys are in a better position after
this trade or you are not sipping on the Jerry
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Speaker 4 (16:45):
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that's don't look at me like that.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I wouldn't. That's old Raven. I was old. I just
told Mansky that.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And I was a dude too, so I wouldn't. I
mean old dude, not like if I was a twelve
year old due it to make it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
You were like in college when this came out.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Well year, I think it was old enough to where
if he was really watching that seavery problematic.
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He had been problematic. Oh your little sister here, like
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Speaking of moving, Michael Parsons is moving moving to Green Bay.
They got a trade that happened there between the Packers
and the Cowboys, and we're just asking if you believe
what Jerry Jones says he believes the team got better now,
I don't buy it. I think they just set themselves back.
Not that they were gonna have a great season, but
for sure now I think they punted on the season.
Martin is saying, you think this isn't the worst getting
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these these these picks now and could potentially.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Play Say, the issue with trading Michael Parsons is the
timing in which you did it, and that's the biggest
issue that I think that we will make fun of
Jerry a lot for it, and he deserves to be
made fun of. But conceptually, the idea of trading Michael
Parsons when you have the highest paid, highest paid quarterback
in football and third highest paid receiver, it's the same
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conversation that we had with the Cincinnati Bengals, like should
they pay Trey Hendrickson And a lot of people were
not going to be if they had traded Hi would
not be like, oh, Blake Brown like it.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
The one other.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Difference is Trey as great as he is defensively, Joe
Burrow is your best player. You know, you can say
Jamar Chase is your best player, Waby one or two,
however you want to do that, I'm with you. Whereas
Micah is their best player. All right, let's take some
call eight seven, seven ninety nine on Foxes. Go to Washington,
Johnny and Washington. You're on the hot couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks for attending my call. But I
feel like she's such a businessman, and that's what it
comes down to, right, you know that want to get paid,
and look what happened to him. I think I think
he's garbage. And and remember back then Seco get paid.
I think he's garbed. So here's the deal.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
He played for me.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
You know, if you keep on crying, I have to
let you go. But I don't think it's a good
idea right now because of the situation with the team. But
I think overall he's telling the team go here, you cry,
You're not playing for me. I don't care how good
you are. I'm gonna find somebody, you know, and then
I'll take it off the air.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Thank you, all right, appreciate it man, Thank you, Johnny.
Let's go, Let's go to Dallas and talk to Dion.
I don't know what your temperament is about to be, Dion,
are you happy?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
You sad?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You're mad? What are you on your old couple of
Fox Sports radio gods?
Speaker 10 (19:33):
Hey Martin, Hey Calvin the Man, great show, great topis
you guys sound good over the airwaves? Appreciate you got
a text out to my buddies. Is man?
Speaker 9 (19:40):
How dumb?
Speaker 10 (19:41):
This is the first thing I said. But I will
say this, Jerry's not being real at the moment. You
can't think you're better. But let me ask you, guys
real quick. Is the defensive tackle that they traded for
is he pretty good? I mean I saw that he
had made the Pro Bowl. Is he going to start
right away for Dallas?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Oh? He will be starting I imagine Dallas. Yeah, you're
making it. He that's the big thing with him. He's
thirty years old.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
Okay, yeah, he's an older that he's twenty nine, about
to be thirty. So but I will say this, guys,
I don't remember a memorable play that Michael Parsons has
made with his tenure there. And at the same time,
dream Bay realizes that if Detroit last year didn't have
all those injured people. They are your Super Bowl participants
in the NFC, so I think they want to boot
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get Parsons up there to kind of help and make
them throw themselves, throw their name in the hat per
se and real quick. Hey, Martin White, I kind of
disagree with you, said last hour to San Francisco firing
Steve Wilks. She said, the one time they made a mistake,
it was they lost the Super Bowl. Well, I honestly,
Steve Wooks. They wouldn't even let him sign members to
his own staff. They assigned. They just hired him and
(20:44):
said you can't pick any staff members. And then the
team didn't even know the rules and overtime. So I
kind of feel like Shanahan almost darn there should have
been on the hot seat for not knowing the rules
for overtime. He was like, hey, we want the ball first,
not in that situation, you want the ball second, so
you can know what you got to do. So I
think Steve Wilks more of a state goal.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I agree. I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Actually, I do think that Steve wilk kind of caught
more blame than needed to. The only reason I said
that it was it was deemed a mistake is what
I was attempting to say, because that's who they kind
of put all the blame on with Steve Wilks.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
But I don't think that. I mean again, the team
was in.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
The Super Bowl and played pretty good defense all years.
Like the greater point I was trying to make, Shannon
is really good at hiring his guys, but I don't
have any qualms with that.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
All right, appreciate the call. ERDII.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Let's go to Andre Massachusetts. Andre, you're on with the
O couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
What's up, Drake?
Speaker 11 (21:36):
Hey, how you doing? Thanks for taking the call. Listen.
I wishing Jerry Jones who was better at hir ring
and retaining his guys, because absolutely not. Dallas Cowboys are
not a better team today without Michael Parsons. Come on, man,
if the proof is in the pudding Defensive Rookie of
the Year twenty twenty one, two time Pro Bowl, two
time All Pro First Team, four time Pro Bowler, to
stop it. Okay, he's a transcendent player. He's a difference maker.
(21:58):
He's somebody that teams have the scheme for, you know,
and frankly work around to the bottom line is this
and based on. Other callers have said that whole my
way or the highway mentality. I can understand that, But
that's how bar Bryant coached, That's how Bobby Knight coached.
Speaker 10 (22:14):
Right.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
This is a brave new world that we're living in. Right,
that's more in line with how Mike Mike Commlin goes
about his business. What does he say, I'm gonna deal
with it until I can replace it. So Antonio Brown
was out there being a B being wild. Okay, I'm
gonna deal with it until I can replace it, Okay,
And I have something a Plan B. And as you've said,
there's no Plan B for the Dallas Cowboys. So this
(22:36):
comes down to what we all know about Jerry Jones. Okay,
it has to be his way no matter what. And
that's why the Dallas Cowboys haven't won anything in thirty years.
Although the Netflix special has been getting good reviews okay
for Cowboys, Nicks, and I'm feeling for you to keep
getting those five star reviews. In terms of the you know,
docu dramas or whatever, there's gonna be no winning in doubt.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, dang, years ago is still was bringing up thereath.
The only thing that's going good for them is a
thirty year old doc just released only talking about thirty
years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
They ain't won in thirty years. My goodness.
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Speaker 4 (23:19):
So going back a little bit here, Martin, to the
other side of this, and that is the Packers.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And now.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
There's the pressure on them because I look at the
Packers as a team that again historically blue blood. We
know what they've been and to their credit, they always
find a way to right the ship. And I'm not
saying they're gonna win Super Bowls every single year, but
they write the ship.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
They never suck in.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
How I know this is because I'm a Lions fan
and I'm like so tired of them up until the
last couple of years. And so they went all out
after really only seeing Jordan Love for eight games. Say
here's the bag, okay, because one thing we know, we
know when we have our guy. We saw it right,
We saw what Aaron. Matter of fact, we said, Aaron,
come on over here. I know we still got bread
(24:03):
to come on. Have a Sea fo a few years.
Don't worry about it. You're our guy. Jordan Love, come
have a Sea four a few years.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's OK. Great, don't even worry about it. You're our guy.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And now to help tool, fully tool and fully load
the team.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
For our guy, we have a Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Now you can also look at it as they're all in,
but it doesn't necessarily have to be. See, this is
the difference between Jerry to me. We have the quarterback
we believe in who's still relatively young. We have one
of the youngest teams in the entire NFL, and we
got our star player and Michaeh who is also young.
It's not like he's the hitman for hire who's coming
in at thirty and this has to work this year
kind of a thing. He's only twenty six. So they've
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got themselves built up for the future in a division
where they should be. And I would imagine at some
point they feel the wheels should fall off or the
Lions aren't gonna be able to keep paying everybody, and
something's gonna change there Minnesota. Yes, defensively, they're maybe blind
Flores leaves. At some point the defense changes a little bit,
because that's a real thing. Maybe he gets some money
from the league. You know, he's got that lawsuit, and
(25:02):
you know, maybe he just decides to move on, who knows,
gets a head coaching job, whatever it may be. So
they're playing a long all game saying we want to
make sure we lock in our guy and Jordan Love
to get his ring because that's what we've done now
for thirty plus years with the quarterback. We believe in it.
By the way, Jordan Love, you're that guy. And so
I just like what they're doing. And now it's a
(25:23):
different sport, but you wonder if Micah has a little
pressure Juan Soto Like, again, different sport, but just where Hey,
you got all this money, you're setting a record for
money for a non quarterback. All eyes are on you. You
wanted to get out, you got out, and you didn't
go to a terrible team. You're not on the Panthers.
You're on a team that was, you know, a playoff
team and a team that people have some expectations for.
(25:44):
I wonder if Michael used this as more pressure or
he wants to do more now to kind of rub
it in the face, if you will, to Dallas.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I think that there's the pressure on Michael Parson's I
think exists kind of regardless, but also too, I don't
think that he.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Is bothered by that.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
He's again, Michael Parsons is a media personality as well
as a player, like and he has openly spoke about
and he showed me last year the team's success does
not necessarily change, So I'm going to talk about everything
like he was just as much on Front Street as
you know, as he was when they were twelve and
five and he was racking up all these crazy sacks,
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and he's just was talking about all the same type
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
The pressure, to me is squarely on Jordan Love.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
This is a move that you make because you think
you have a guy you can win a Super Bowl with.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Very much in the.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Same way that Jerry Jones was saying, I'm not gonna
pay Michael Parsons because I paid Dak Prescott ostensibly what
he said, when I've got the highest paid quarterback in football,
when you are paying this guy this money, whether it's
Dak Prescott, whether it's Trevor Lawrence, whether it's Jordan Love,
whether it's Joe Burrow, whether it's Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen.
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You pay them that amount of money because you believe
that's the guy that can win you Super Bowl, even
if they haven't done it yet, even if they doesn't
feel like as a fan you think it's likely because
you just can't.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
This too prohibitive otherwise.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
This pressure, to me is on Jordan Love, who to
me was a circumstance of next up as opposed to
best up when it comes to the contract to the
contract negotiations, and it has not been consistent in his
two seasons as a starter. I know you can look
at some of these advanced numbers. You look at all
the drops that he had as a last season with
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the Packers God of no Name receiving core all due
respect to Jayden Reid and all we all know their names,
but they're not exactly And Matthew Golden is supposed to
step in there, and it's all the reports that he's
going along swimmingly and could be a stud. So maybe
that's the answer there. Now you have your triplets. But
the pressure to me is on Jordan Love one hundred
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percent because he is paid like the type of quarterback
that is going to be able to type of guy
that in a tough spot will get you over the hump.
And like you look at as good as Chris Jones
is and as impactful in the Super Bowl wins that
Kansas City has had. Patrick Mahomes lifted the MVP trophy.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yeah, but I'll tell you another guy who had it
you're talking about in Super Bowl making super Bowl moments.
I look at Aaron Donald and that man was a
man in that Super Bowl run for them. He was
throwing the lineman all the way out the way and
even got to Jimmy g and finalized the game and
said ringing. So I do like we got to call
von Miller what he was able to do with him
as well, and obviously what he was doing when he
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was at the Broncos. I do like the pairing of
a really good quarterback keep our offense going. And they
had a really good The Packers defense, to be so young,
were actually really good. They were six I believe it
was in six and total defense.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I know Xavier and Kenny led the NFL and interceptions
for if not the entire season. Most of it was
a free agent pickup from them. They were top ten
and most of the defensive stats, so the last year,
made a defensive higher coach Jeff Haffley, who's head coach
at Boston College, became their defensive coordinator, and then yes,
two really did kind of come together.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, so I'm looking at them as obviously they feel
look at what we did in a short amount of time.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Look how young we are.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
We bring in one of the top two, three four
best players defensively in the league. We should only get better.
And again in a division where they know we're going
to have to stop a couple of offenses that could be
good if Minnesota is anything like they were last year,
and obviously the Lions were the number one offense in
all the football So.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Jordan Love has to get it done.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
And again I think this is their saying, we believe
in you, because again, when we have seen it, we've
invested in it, and we have gotten an ROI to
the tune of a couple of Super Bowl appearances for
the last two quarterbacks before you, each of them won one.
So that's what we expect out of you, Jordan Love.
And I'm sure he would say he expects that out
of himself as well. All right, So let's do this
rob one more time. We'll take last call again. A
(29:59):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
That's right. One more hour for you boys, and what
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Speaker 4 (00:34):
Make sure you check out the podcast and if you
had to get a chance to, because of course, we
went straight into the trade, Jerry Jones trading Michael Parsons
to the Green Bay Packers couple of first round picks.
There he's getting one hundred and eighty eight million dollars
forty seven annually, one hundred and thirty six guaranteed, the
highest paid non quarterback in history, which, by the way,
(00:55):
I mean, how long is that gonna last? We do
that every time somebody gets it the highest paid non quarterback,
We'll do it again.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I don't know, Bud, because like he's the highest paid
on quarterback by.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
A look a look at me. Look Abduel Carter.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
In about two three years we're gonna be saying the
same conversation. It's you know, it's an absurd amount of money. However,
if I'd have told you this ten fifteen years ago,
we'd been you know, uh Khalil Mack money was crazy money.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Aid Yeah, hutcheson, he got to get back. Now that's
some money.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
That is an underlying interesting third day of this topic
story real quick.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Aiden Hutchinson is up next.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Now, the guy in your division is the highest paid
not quarterback by a large margin. And they played the
same position, and he was in VP, not defensive. He
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of the hour. We're gonna do last call. I know
a lot of you been wanting to get in. We've
had a couple interviews. We've been running and gunning with this,
so all this news, so we appreciate you hanging out
(02:24):
with us with that. All right, So Mark, let's get
to some sound from Jerry. He had a lot to say.
We haven't had a chance to hear too much. So
here's Jerry Jones on what happened today.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
But we have the highest paid player in the NFL
at quarterback, and we made that commitment last year and
we're proud we made it and had everything to do
with this decision. Everything it is give us every opportunity
with Dak, Prescott and Lamb and the base that we've
got to win now. This gives us a better chance
(02:55):
to be a better team than we have been the
last few years since Mike has been here. Not any
negative on Michael, but we're trying to get better. We're
trying to stop the run and stay on the hunt.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I don't disagree that potentially long term, yes, because obviously
there's a greater sum than just one minie. You got
all these picks and then who knows what they do
with the picks, you might get more players.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I understand that.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I guess my frustration would be and I'm not a
Cowboy fan, but if I'm a Cowboy fan, if not,
now then win.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
How many years do I have to hear? Well, what
this is going to do? This?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Well, you don't even know we're about to do I
got these watch when we do it. My son is
twenty eight. I'm making it up. He's never seen it
in NFC Championship game. Sure, my twenty two year old
son has never seen us with a Great America's team
documentary with him it and Michael Irvan and Troig mean
at the triplets and all I saw, like I'm telling
(03:50):
old fable tales wives hells to him, to my son
or my daughter, is what I think. You know, a
true Cowboy fan can be feeling. So yes, I understand
that if he were a general manager who had a
long amount of years ahead of him. You know, he's
fifty five and I got a whole lot of going
on your Brad Holmes in Detroit. You know we're doing
(04:11):
this for the long term. I understand it, Jerry Man.
I mean, like I said, if you're trying to he's
eighty two years old, and I keep bringing it, I'll
only be saying if he's trying to win now and
he's trying to get the monkey off his back. To me,
you did not do that giving up your best player
your team. Not just a really good defensive player. He's
the best player on your team and one of the
best in the league. And so doing that to me
just set you back. And you just don't know what
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it does to the team as a whole. Do guys
start to kind of what stay.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
A lot of guys have said about how they're not
they don't like the leadership, the timeline that week, not
necessarily I mean the Twitter or x timeline, and they've.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Been saying they're not happy about this because guys want
to win, because I don't know, man, these contracts are guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I'm trying to win now. You just never know.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Maybe this is my last year and I'm trying to
win and you just got rid of the guy that
gave me another chance to win. So yes, Jerry, I
totally hear you. In the law run maybe just maybe,
but you know what Al's gonna happened. You get a
couple of draft picks in the first round and they
ain't all that they are seeds. They end up being
CC plus. You got an eight plus guy who won't
(05:12):
know nothing but twelve sacks every year period, and you
you hope that they'd come out to be that. But
how many times have we seen guys be a bus
or maybe not even a bus?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Just all right, Jadavian County cool, he's good.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I would say the Cowboys historically over the last give
it like. I mean, obviously, finding Dak in the fourth
round that is a strong win.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
E vanderschan a lot of these guys to get the
second deals.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
But some of these first or early round picks for
the Cowboys were good and really like played well. I
don't think the Dallas misses a ton early in the draft.
Ironically enough, though, one of them Mozzie Smith, a Michigan
former defensive tackle. He has been obstantibly now a mess
that you're trading for Kenny Clark and you have again
(05:58):
can't stop the run. And that's that's calling job, that's
exactly the job.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Job.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, but I don't think that what Jerry just said
is necessarily incongruent. The issue that everyone has And the
issue that I have as well with this is the
order of operations. If you made this deal, if Jerry
Jones had traded Michael Parsons the day before the draft
(06:26):
and gotten two first rounders, one gotten whatever the Cowboys
pick was this year, and then eighteen from green Bay
and then green Bay's next first rounder, I think that
we'd be looking at this in a much different light
because now you're adding two players, like if the Bengals
with Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Part of the reason why.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Theoretically they could have let Trey Henderson walk or not
extend him past this upcoming season because you were drafting
Schamar Stewart in the first round. Now part of the
problem is they took forever to de signed him those deals.
But that's at least uh intellectually congruent.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
With the plan.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
We don't like where our pass rusher is headed, even
though he's had record production. We don't want to offer
him a long term deal. We'll get a guy behind him.
That's the way you build a roster in the NFL.
Whether you have the machinations of what the actual payment
was obviously was the hang up there with this. With
this move, Jerry's looking at this roster. He made the
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point I was telling him soccer just off. It's like
Jerry is not about the Jay's gonna come out here
and say, I got the highest paid quarterback in football.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I got one of the highest pay receivers of football.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
We think we got we need to win today, and
I don't think that that's a crazy statement to make
when you've got the highest paid player, like you cut
that deal. Whether we think it was a good deal
or not. Jerry clearly did because he cut it. Do
you see what I'm saying. He gave him that no
trade clause. And so if you think that that is true,
then paying the highest paid quarterback the third or fourth
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highest paid receiver to maybe second to Seed Lamb. I
forget the exact numbers, though he's gotta be let start,
but third and fourth highest paid receiver in shiety, Lamb,
thank you high, but again highest when they signed the deal.
If you're gonna make that your the triplets all three
highest paid, you can't fill out the rest of your roster.
You're gonna look like the Lakers playing Magic Claver off
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the bench in Game five.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Because you got nobody else your trust. But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I didn't have to make him the highest paid because
if I do the deals earlier, then they don't have
to And with Dak, I don't have if I don't
have to wait, if I just do it early, if
that's your guy, there's something to identifying what you need early.
You go packers. They paid a bunch of money, but
in the long term, it's gonna be great. Remember we
were having these conversations four or five years ago, whatever
it is, maybe with Patrick Mahome, maybe five or six. Oh,
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he just got on that four hundred some million. Well
that looks pretty good now because it looked good. Thing
when you exactly when you stretch that thing out, you knew, well, shoot,
I ain't gonna lie the way he looking throwing no
look passes, behind the back, pass, left hand passes. All
he's doing is winning a bunch of games and MVP. Yeah,
that money is gonna be good. And so to me,
when you have that long term view, when you're a prognosticator,
(09:05):
I can look a little in the future. I can
have the wear with thal and some foresight to say
this is gonna make sense.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know what Dak is good. He may not be
Joe Montana might.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Hey, he may never have the career Troy Aikman, but David,
we might be able to win one with him.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Let's sign him now.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
But then you mess around and play and now you
gotta pay him sixty when he should have been a guy.
He should have been brock purtyish because Rock Party can
look in Dak and say, you ain't done nothing like
I've done already. Sure you've done nothing I've done to
warrant you making well, you know, sixteen seventeen, eighteen million
dollars more than me. So you took care of him.
Then he gets a Trevor Lawrence like deal. We all said, whoa.
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I mean, he hadn't really done, but okay, that's your future. Okay,
forty something million for your guy that you're gonna ride
this thing out with.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Okay, I'm not mad at that. Sixty is crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Sixty was crazy last year, year, before next year and
the next year. You can't get the deal where it's
gonna be crazy for five years. It has to be
crazy like it has to be creat for a year.
Two you can't have signed a deal with it. We're
permanently gonna think that deal was wild. So I agree
with you.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I am not knocking at Dak Prescott too at his best.
I think if Dak Prespott was the quarterback of the
Packers and not the Cowboys, we talk about an entirely
different light because of this, the attention that the Cowboys get.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Dak Prescott at his best has been a player.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Who received MVP votes in this league, a guy who
finished second in MVP voting I believe, or at least
was second up until week fifteen or whatever, like he
was right there, and then the next year kind of
fell off on the cliff. But just conceptually, this team
wasn't getting it done. You gonna look at this postseason.
This team hasn't been getting it done. And if again,
(10:44):
if you had traded Michael Parsons at any point prior
to now, it would have been a better time to
do it. But if you just go back to the Gambler,
which again.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I didn't call Jerry that.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
He called himself that an eighth part Netflix documentary. And
I've lost enough money in poker to know you lost
the first big hand, right. You thought you had a
good hand, You went into the negotiation with Dak Prescott,
you got hosed you lost the second big hand. You
thought you had a better hand with Ceedee Lamb. You
got hosed in that negotiation. How many hands can you
afford to lose in a row? Jerry folded the cards
(11:18):
in said I'm gonna keep my chips in my pocket
and try to continue to stay at the table, as
opposed to saying I'm gonna go all in again on
this roster and with a team that we all have
as a collective media have thought the Cowboys were gonna
be a disappointment this season, and all of us thought
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that Michael Parsons was going to be on that roster
Week one.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You've given out a lot of passes.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
You throwing a lot of bail because we've been giving
up five or six instances where he could have done
this diff He could have signed Dak Prescott earlier, save
somebody used that money for some other things. Maybe I'm
putting more guys around Micah, Ceedee Lamb and CDI was
trying to play a little big game. Let me see
who's gonna get signed, and we seeho the market is.
But he playing around. But maybe you signed him earlier again,
And my point is you trade they The story reports
(12:05):
come out. They came to Jerry said, but you know,
we can trade Mike right now two years ago. So
he all of these missteps continue to be why you're
always a few guys short, because it could be not
to have to be a huge signing, but maybe you
just find a nice cornerback, a nice linebacker for a
nice salary. Nothing crazy shore adds to the team. Because
of that money you saved with Dak. You were paying
them forty five instead of sixty. That's fifteen. We could
(12:27):
spress that out, spread that out a little bit. And
to me, these little small miscalculations that ultimately make him
look cool because he looks like I'm the big spender,
hurt the team and that's why we are where we are.
We're after a couple of injuries. The Lions had a
bunch of injuries. Now it bought them. It been been
the butt finally in the postseason, but they were at
the depth and they were able to withstand that and
still go fifteen to two and still beat down the
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Vikings a couple of times when they weren't supposed to.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't think that Jerry looked.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I don't think that at this time last year as
the DAK deals, the CD LAMB deals were getting done.
I don't think that Jerry felt like he looked cool
with being the big spender. I know that it was
a headline, but like, just because I'm really thinking about
this morning, man, if I was all ready for Jerry
versus Salary Cap Part three, salary Cap wins again, right,
(13:14):
Jerry would be getting dragged across the board for getting
this deal done because of the timing. Now, whether or not,
I don't think the deal is even that crazy for
a guy like Michael Parsons. I think it's a good contract, right,
Like if it's a contract that if I was Jerry,
I would have.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Offered this contract to them.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
But Matt Moseley said it, and that and Matt Mosley
and Edward are too plugged in most Dallas guys that
you'll ever find listened to podcasts at the bottom of
the first hour to be able to catch that when
you listen to all of it, and I'm sure it'll
be a part of the best of too. But Matt
Moseley said it. He said Jerry was shick of getting
beat up on these deals, and Jerry, if he had
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signed this deal, Michael parsions. The next day, everybody would
have came out and said, Jerry was two years too
late on this deal, and that's why the Cowboys aren't
gonna win anything.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Now.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I was gonna come out and say, at least, and
here's the thing, if the Cowboys do, if they.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Do win something, now, let's say it.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I mean, nobody predicted that Washington was gonna be what
they were. Let's say the Cowboys go on a run
and have the magical season and they win thirteen games.
Jerry Jones by week ten will be doing those postgames
with his feet up, saying, I told y'all I had what.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It took to win. I didn't need to pay Michael
Parts a lot that money.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
He goes back to being the star of the show
and honestly put to seem in a better salary cap
position than it was yesterday. Now, not that it was
two years ago, but today today, in this.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Situation, I can get it, and I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
While his feet would be up, it would might as
well be Groundhog's day, because they'll go thirteen and four
and losing in the first round or the second round, obviously,
and then it will be having these same conversations because
he at this point he's created himself where it's only
a Super Bowl or bus Most teams do that, Lamar Jackson,
it would make sense, Josh Allen makes sense somehow the
Cowboys are in Super Bowl or bus.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, they don't have it.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
It's not even warranted because they don't even get close
regularly enough to.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
ANBA that man just like those guys.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah, all right, let's do this eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
We're gonna take some calls again.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I know you've been want to jump in. We've been
going at it.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
We've had some interviews we haven't been able to so
we'll open them up right now. Do you believe Jerry
and that the Cowboys are in a better position after
this trade or you are not sipping on the Jerry
Jones kool aid eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
We want to hear from Ustiia couple.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
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Speaker 4 (16:45):
Which one is this sister sister? Which one of the Wow, Raven,
that's don't look at me like that.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I wouldn't. That's old Raven. I was old. I just
told Mansky that.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And I was a dude too, so I wouldn't. I
mean old dude, not like if I was a twelve
year old due it to make it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
You were like in college when this came out.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Well year, I think it was old enough to where
if he was really watching that seavery problematic.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
He had been problematic. Oh your little sister here, like
now I'll have a little sister. She only you younger
to me. It is the odd couple. Kelvin Washington, Martin
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(17:31):
Speaking of moving, Michael Parsons is moving moving to Green Bay.
They got a trade that happened there between the Packers
and the Cowboys, and we're just asking if you believe
what Jerry Jones says he believes the team got better now,
I don't buy it. I think they just set themselves back.
Not that they were gonna have a great season, but
for sure now I think they punted on the season.
Martin is saying, you think this isn't the worst getting
(17:51):
these these these picks now and could potentially.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Play Say, the issue with trading Michael Parsons is the
timing in which you did it, and that's the biggest
issue that I think that we will make fun of
Jerry a lot for it, and he deserves to be
made fun of. But conceptually, the idea of trading Michael
Parsons when you have the highest paid, highest paid quarterback
in football and third highest paid receiver, it's the same
(18:17):
conversation that we had with the Cincinnati Bengals, like should
they pay Trey Hendrickson And a lot of people were
not going to be if they had traded Hi would
not be like, oh, Blake Brown like it.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
The one other.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Difference is Trey as great as he is defensively, Joe
Burrow is your best player. You know, you can say
Jamar Chase is your best player, Waby one or two,
however you want to do that, I'm with you. Whereas
Micah is their best player. All right, let's take some
call eight seven, seven ninety nine on Foxes. Go to Washington,
Johnny and Washington. You're on the hot couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks for attending my call. But I
feel like she's such a businessman, and that's what it
comes down to, right, you know that want to get paid,
and look what happened to him. I think I think
he's garbage. And and remember back then Seco get paid.
I think he's garbed. So here's the deal.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
He played for me.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
You know, if you keep on crying, I have to
let you go. But I don't think it's a good
idea right now because of the situation with the team. But
I think overall he's telling the team go here, you cry,
You're not playing for me. I don't care how good
you are. I'm gonna find somebody, you know, and then
I'll take it off the air.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Thank you, all right, appreciate it man, Thank you, Johnny.
Let's go, Let's go to Dallas and talk to Dion.
I don't know what your temperament is about to be, Dion,
are you happy?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
You sad?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You're mad? What are you on your old couple of
Fox Sports radio gods?
Speaker 10 (19:33):
Hey Martin, Hey Calvin the Man, great show, great topis
you guys sound good over the airwaves? Appreciate you got
a text out to my buddies. Is man?
Speaker 9 (19:40):
How dumb?
Speaker 10 (19:41):
This is the first thing I said. But I will
say this, Jerry's not being real at the moment. You
can't think you're better. But let me ask you, guys
real quick. Is the defensive tackle that they traded for
is he pretty good? I mean I saw that he
had made the Pro Bowl. Is he going to start
right away for Dallas?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Oh? He will be starting I imagine Dallas. Yeah, you're
making it. He that's the big thing with him. He's
thirty years old.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
Okay, yeah, he's an older that he's twenty nine, about
to be thirty. So but I will say this, guys,
I don't remember a memorable play that Michael Parsons has
made with his tenure there. And at the same time,
dream Bay realizes that if Detroit last year didn't have
all those injured people. They are your Super Bowl participants
in the NFC, so I think they want to boot
(20:23):
get Parsons up there to kind of help and make
them throw themselves, throw their name in the hat per
se and real quick. Hey, Martin White, I kind of
disagree with you, said last hour to San Francisco firing
Steve Wilks. She said, the one time they made a mistake,
it was they lost the Super Bowl. Well, I honestly,
Steve Wooks. They wouldn't even let him sign members to
his own staff. They assigned. They just hired him and
(20:44):
said you can't pick any staff members. And then the
team didn't even know the rules and overtime. So I
kind of feel like Shanahan almost darn there should have
been on the hot seat for not knowing the rules
for overtime. He was like, hey, we want the ball first,
not in that situation, you want the ball second, so
you can know what you got to do. So I
think Steve Wilks more of a state goal.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I agree. I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Actually, I do think that Steve wilk kind of caught
more blame than needed to. The only reason I said
that it was it was deemed a mistake is what
I was attempting to say, because that's who they kind
of put all the blame on with Steve Wilks.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
But I don't think that. I mean again, the team
was in.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
The Super Bowl and played pretty good defense all years.
Like the greater point I was trying to make, Shannon
is really good at hiring his guys, but I don't
have any qualms with that.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
All right, appreciate the call. ERDII.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Let's go to Andre Massachusetts. Andre, you're on with the
O couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
What's up, Drake?
Speaker 11 (21:36):
Hey, how you doing? Thanks for taking the call. Listen.
I wishing Jerry Jones who was better at hir ring
and retaining his guys, because absolutely not. Dallas Cowboys are
not a better team today without Michael Parsons. Come on, man,
if the proof is in the pudding Defensive Rookie of
the Year twenty twenty one, two time Pro Bowl, two
time All Pro First Team, four time Pro Bowler, to
stop it. Okay, he's a transcendent player. He's a difference maker.
(21:58):
He's somebody that teams have the scheme for, you know,
and frankly work around to the bottom line is this
and based on. Other callers have said that whole my
way or the highway mentality. I can understand that, But
that's how bar Bryant coached, That's how Bobby Knight coached.
Speaker 10 (22:14):
Right.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
This is a brave new world that we're living in. Right,
that's more in line with how Mike Mike Commlin goes
about his business. What does he say, I'm gonna deal
with it until I can replace it. So Antonio Brown
was out there being a B being wild. Okay, I'm
gonna deal with it until I can replace it, Okay,
And I have something a Plan B. And as you've said,
there's no Plan B for the Dallas Cowboys. So this
(22:36):
comes down to what we all know about Jerry Jones. Okay,
it has to be his way no matter what. And
that's why the Dallas Cowboys haven't won anything in thirty years.
Although the Netflix special has been getting good reviews okay
for Cowboys, Nicks, and I'm feeling for you to keep
getting those five star reviews. In terms of the you know,
docu dramas or whatever, there's gonna be no winning in doubt.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, dang, years ago is still was bringing up thereath.
The only thing that's going good for them is a
thirty year old doc just released only talking about thirty
years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
They ain't won in thirty years. My goodness.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
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Speaker 4 (23:19):
So going back a little bit here, Martin, to the
other side of this, and that is the Packers.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And now.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
There's the pressure on them because I look at the
Packers as a team that again historically blue blood. We
know what they've been and to their credit, they always
find a way to right the ship. And I'm not
saying they're gonna win Super Bowls every single year, but
they write the ship.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
They never suck in.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
How I know this is because I'm a Lions fan
and I'm like so tired of them up until the
last couple of years. And so they went all out
after really only seeing Jordan Love for eight games. Say
here's the bag, okay, because one thing we know, we
know when we have our guy. We saw it right,
We saw what Aaron. Matter of fact, we said, Aaron,
come on over here. I know we still got bread
(24:03):
to come on. Have a Sea fo a few years.
Don't worry about it. You're our guy. Jordan Love, come
have a Sea four a few years.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's OK. Great, don't even worry about it. You're our guy.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And now to help tool, fully tool and fully load
the team.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
For our guy, we have a Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Now you can also look at it as they're all in,
but it doesn't necessarily have to be. See, this is
the difference between Jerry to me. We have the quarterback
we believe in who's still relatively young. We have one
of the youngest teams in the entire NFL, and we
got our star player and Michaeh who is also young.
It's not like he's the hitman for hire who's coming
in at thirty and this has to work this year
kind of a thing. He's only twenty six. So they've
(24:40):
got themselves built up for the future in a division
where they should be. And I would imagine at some
point they feel the wheels should fall off or the
Lions aren't gonna be able to keep paying everybody, and
something's gonna change there Minnesota. Yes, defensively, they're maybe blind
Flores leaves. At some point the defense changes a little bit,
because that's a real thing. Maybe he gets some money
from the league. You know, he's got that lawsuit, and
(25:02):
you know, maybe he just decides to move on, who knows,
gets a head coaching job, whatever it may be. So
they're playing a long all game saying we want to
make sure we lock in our guy and Jordan Love
to get his ring because that's what we've done now
for thirty plus years with the quarterback. We believe in it.
By the way, Jordan Love, you're that guy. And so
I just like what they're doing. And now it's a
(25:23):
different sport, but you wonder if Micah has a little
pressure Juan Soto Like, again, different sport, but just where Hey,
you got all this money, you're setting a record for
money for a non quarterback. All eyes are on you. You
wanted to get out, you got out, and you didn't
go to a terrible team. You're not on the Panthers.
You're on a team that was, you know, a playoff
team and a team that people have some expectations for.
(25:44):
I wonder if Michael used this as more pressure or
he wants to do more now to kind of rub
it in the face, if you will, to Dallas.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I think that there's the pressure on Michael Parson's I
think exists kind of regardless, but also too, I don't
think that he.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Is bothered by that.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
He's again, Michael Parsons is a media personality as well
as a player, like and he has openly spoke about
and he showed me last year the team's success does
not necessarily change, So I'm going to talk about everything
like he was just as much on Front Street as
you know, as he was when they were twelve and
five and he was racking up all these crazy sacks,
(26:24):
and he's just was talking about all the same type
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
The pressure, to me is squarely on Jordan Love.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
This is a move that you make because you think
you have a guy you can win a Super Bowl with.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Very much in the.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Same way that Jerry Jones was saying, I'm not gonna
pay Michael Parsons because I paid Dak Prescott ostensibly what
he said, when I've got the highest paid quarterback in football,
when you are paying this guy this money, whether it's
Dak Prescott, whether it's Trevor Lawrence, whether it's Jordan Love,
whether it's Joe Burrow, whether it's Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen.
(27:00):
You pay them that amount of money because you believe
that's the guy that can win you Super Bowl, even
if they haven't done it yet, even if they doesn't
feel like as a fan you think it's likely because
you just can't.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
This too prohibitive otherwise.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
This pressure, to me is on Jordan Love, who to
me was a circumstance of next up as opposed to
best up when it comes to the contract to the
contract negotiations, and it has not been consistent in his
two seasons as a starter. I know you can look
at some of these advanced numbers. You look at all
the drops that he had as a last season with
(27:35):
the Packers God of no Name receiving core all due
respect to Jayden Reid and all we all know their names,
but they're not exactly And Matthew Golden is supposed to
step in there, and it's all the reports that he's
going along swimmingly and could be a stud. So maybe
that's the answer there. Now you have your triplets. But
the pressure to me is on Jordan Love one hundred
(27:58):
percent because he is paid like the type of quarterback
that is going to be able to type of guy
that in a tough spot will get you over the hump.
And like you look at as good as Chris Jones
is and as impactful in the Super Bowl wins that
Kansas City has had. Patrick Mahomes lifted the MVP trophy.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yeah, but I'll tell you another guy who had it
you're talking about in Super Bowl making super Bowl moments.
I look at Aaron Donald and that man was a
man in that Super Bowl run for them. He was
throwing the lineman all the way out the way and
even got to Jimmy g and finalized the game and
said ringing. So I do like we got to call
von Miller what he was able to do with him
as well, and obviously what he was doing when he
(28:39):
was at the Broncos. I do like the pairing of
a really good quarterback keep our offense going. And they
had a really good The Packers defense, to be so young,
were actually really good. They were six I believe it
was in six and total defense.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I know Xavier and Kenny led the NFL and interceptions
for if not the entire season. Most of it was
a free agent pickup from them. They were top ten
and most of the defensive stats, so the last year,
made a defensive higher coach Jeff Haffley, who's head coach
at Boston College, became their defensive coordinator, and then yes,
two really did kind of come together.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, so I'm looking at them as obviously they feel
look at what we did in a short amount of time.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Look how young we are.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
We bring in one of the top two, three four
best players defensively in the league. We should only get better.
And again in a division where they know we're going
to have to stop a couple of offenses that could be
good if Minnesota is anything like they were last year,
and obviously the Lions were the number one offense in
all the football So.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Jordan Love has to get it done.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
And again I think this is their saying, we believe
in you, because again, when we have seen it, we've
invested in it, and we have gotten an ROI to
the tune of a couple of Super Bowl appearances for
the last two quarterbacks before you, each of them won one.
So that's what we expect out of you, Jordan Love.
And I'm sure he would say he expects that out
of himself as well. All right, So let's do this
rob one more time. We'll take last call again. A
(29:59):
lot of people want a weigh in on this. If
you either in Dallas or maybe you're part of America's
team a Cowboy Nation, you're sick right now, maybe you're happy,
maybe your team Jerry Jones, and that you feel like,
hey man, we are better because of this eight seven
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