July 24, 2024 • 37 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Aaron Torres is in for Chris, and he and Rob explain why you don’t need to win a championship to be considered The Guy, tell us if the NBA is making a mistake by dumping TNT’s Inside the NBA in their new media rights deal and explain why the WNBA talking heads are out of touch with reality. Plus, MLBBro.com managing editor JR Gamble swings by for this week’s edition of Foul or Fair.
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Affair with JR. Gamble from mlbbro dot Com. We'll talk
some baseball with him with some topics Aaron. But let's
go to the NBA and Carmelo Anthony and Dwayne Wade.
I guess we did a podcast and it came up
about Jason Tatum, who finally broke through, right, won an
(02:28):
NBA championship.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
We know what a talented player he is.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Uh, we talked about it a few Yeah, he's gonna
be making like seventy million dollars a year at some point,
like you know, because of the TV contract and the money.
But he's a fine basketball player, he really is. But
he hasn't won like a league MVP. People wonder a question,
you know, really where he is on the pecking order
(02:53):
with finals VP remembers, right, he didn't even went finals MVP.
There you go, that's even a better point. But you
get my point that he's a a player, but kind
of understated, understated in NBA America, so much so that
Carmelo Anthony said that.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
He he's not that guy. I think it's because his
because he's the most like vocal his aura. Yeah, like he's.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
And the reason why we put an there is because
of his.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I want if j T had that.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Aura, it's over off the court. But that's not j T.
What I hate is in two years. If he don't,
the media is gonna change on him because he's telling
you what he's gonna do and he's doing it. But
so if he don't get to where he what he's saying,
if he don't go do it now, it's gonna be
what he can't do.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Was in that situation. J was in the same situation.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
So, I mean, we all get to enjoy the innocence
of Anthony Edwaris right now. The media is allowing. Everyone
is playing the clips, everyone is laughing. We love it.
It's gonna change really soon because the expectations is gonna
be there, not only because it's played, but also because
he's talks.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Wow, there's a lot to unpack this. Sure, I think
there's a couple of things. He did it, you know, Uh,
Jason Tatum won, But it's not only about winning that
makes you like a face of a league or how
people look at you. There's something more than that, And
it doesn't mean that. Of course, winning enhances that hard
(04:38):
to be the face of the league if you're not
making the playoffs every year.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Right, Mike Trout, we talked about Mike Trout.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
He was in the beginning Oh, basically he's the next
guy in baseball, right, Mike Trout, Mike Trup Mike Trout,
he was. And then of course when you start getting
hurt or whatever, people forget about you and they move
on to the next guy. Here's a guy who hasn't won.
And I think there's two guys you might say faces
of baseball, and none of them have won a World Series.
(05:04):
Chelroy Otani, right, sure, Aaron Judge. Sure, people might say
you want to throw Bryce Harper in the mix. He's
been to the World Series. He didn't win the Nationals
one when he left. So there's three guys.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Well, you could say baseball have three faces right now,
and none.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Of them have won. It's fair because it's about their ability.
It's about the swagger, what they bring to the table.
When Aaron Judge comes up to the plate, you're not
gonna go get a drink, right, You see him and
you go I want to see this at that, no doubt.
And there are guys like that. So Jason Tatum winning
(05:47):
doesn't put them in like a trajectory to be the face.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Now that he's won, I just don't think he has
what's the right word said Hutspus.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I almost wanted to say, but you know, like this,
there's a degree of wanting to see somebody or interested
in watching somebody play or the style of play that
I don't think he has. And he's a tremendous basketball player. Sure,
(06:23):
he's not glib, he doesn't say anything. He just does
his job. That's another thing, right, there's a couple of
things that are working against him where in U as
far as when you talk about face of the I
don't think that they're wrong about him not being a face,
but it has nothing him winning doesn't mean.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
That he's going to be elevated to that well one
hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean, and just think about the guy that people
are trying to promote as the next face of the
NBA right now, Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
What does he have the exact opposite one.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
He's got the flashy plays, the big dunks, the big blocks,
but he'll also talk smack, he'll clap in your feet.
You know, he's dunking on Kevin Durant Clapp And he
hasn't won jack and he hasn't won anything. And so
I think both things are true. I think, Uh, even
if you you don't have to win to be the face.
But even if you do win, it doesn't guarantee that
you are and.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
That that that's the one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, and you could go across sports and you know, listen,
first of all, this is just like like some guys
just have it right, Like you go back a decade.
Tim duncan accolades are identical almost to Kobe Bryant. And
you know, I know Kobe's no longer with us, so
it's always tough to talk about.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
But like I'll give you one. Let me say this,
don't lose, just train to talk.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
If Ray Allen doesn't hit that three, Tim Duncan is
six for six, just like Michael Jordan about that thought
of that. Nobody thinks like that he would be six
for six for sure. But if you were doing the
odd couple in two thousand and nine, you're not leading
the show with Tim Duncan, Like it's just the rehab.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
He's a great example, great exam.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
There's others, you know, golf, Look at golf right now,
what was the whole conversation? Scotty Scheffler wins every single
week in golf? First of all, serious question when he's
not in handcuffs. He's winning. He almost that was like
the best round he played at the US Open. But
it's like if Scotty Scheffler walked through here right now,
I can't speak for you. Maybe you watch more golf, No,
(08:16):
I don't. I wouldn't know who he was, wouldn't know
who he was. I would think that he was, you know,
I was the new maintenance guy. I just wouldn't know.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And it's he would be Dann Byer's he's hearing to
pick up Dan Byer or something.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, and so, but it's like, you guys, you know
you host every single day British Open.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
What did you guys talk about?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
He talked about Tiger who's fifty years old, can't even
complete four rounds because at least at some point there
was something to Tiger still is and there never will
be with Scotty.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
They can't let go that Tiger's still the face of golf,
even though Kim even in the ads when they promote
the Tiger's always in the background. Yeah, right, he's always did,
his pictures always in there.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Well, think about this if it with the golf analogy
for second is the live tour, right, they took basically
every marquee young guy, accept Skytte, Scheffler, Brooks, kepc Bryson,
de Schambeau, whoever. All these guys nobody watches live. Nobody cares.
They'd rather watch old Tiger limping up and down and
(09:24):
Rory to a small degree. But all these young guys
go to live and nobody's turning the channel. And if
Tiger's playing, your watching, and it just proves. And this
goes back to the Jason Tatum thing is Tatum's a
great player, but there's just something about in Anthony Edwards,
a Kobe, a Lebron, a Steph whoever, that you can't
(09:47):
keep your eyes off of them. And some guys are
just built and cut to be the face of the league,
to be a true.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Superstar, and other guys aren't. I agree. I just I
don't think it's everybody.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And people have it, you know, you hear that they
have it, and you were interested in them and you
want to know what they're doing and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
And I was fortunate I covered Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I was covering the NBA in and there was no
like I was sitting back then the Ryder sack court side,
and I was there, you know, for the big playoff games.
And I was there when he made that shot over
Craig e Low and so.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
There was ninety one ninety two, right, so this was
before Jordan was Jordan. But could you feel it, Yeah,
you walked in the building.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yes, indeed there was something special about this guy. And
this is that shot up with Craig Elow. Remember they
didn't win then, Like that was the start of his
greatness when when you got to see him and you
knew he was going to be something special. We know
what he did in college, but this was the NBA.
But there are guys like that, and it's not just
Jason Tatum was not elevated anywhere because he won the championship, Like,
(10:56):
oh okay, yeah, this is Jason Tatum's league.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, no, I agree, And I don't think it's helping
that even in the Olympics, he's kind of taking a
back seat to some other guys. I know that's kind
of not really the point of this conversation, but like
this would be the moment where he's twenty five, twenty
six years old, coming off an NBA title. You know,
if he was the best player in the league or whatever,
(11:19):
go show it with this Olympic team, So I find
that part interesting as well. Is even at the Olympics,
he's kind of taken a back seat, even as the
guy whose team just won the championship.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, and you're right, even in the Olympics stuff, no
one's talking about him, no one.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It should be about him and Edwards, shouldn't it the Olympics, Well,
I mean, I think it was like twenty two, so
I give it that pass.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
But Tatum has been around for a long time.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It is, He's right in the heart of his prime
and has Lebron getting eight points in the what was
it eleven points in the final four minutes or something
the other night to seal the win against Germany, so amazing.
All right, off the top ahead, if I said the
face of.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
The NBA, because I don't think it's Anthony Edwards either,
is it still Lebron James?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I think Lebron still moves the needle. People care about him,
the forty year old forty years old, and I think
that's kind of shame on the NBA for not figuring
out who that next guy is.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Now. Part of it is, I think part of it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Is none of these guys can sustain Like Giannis wins
a title three years ago, you think, okay, they're gonna
go on. People did think that that, Oh my god, right, yeah,
you know, Jokisch was never gonna be like the face
of league just doesn't have that personality.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But they lose in the second round this year, so
I think, I I.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Know we said that winning you don't have to it's
not just totally winning, right, Yes, I mean it doesn't
hurt you, It doesn't hurt yeah, But I think the
NBA right now is suffering from trying to figure out
who that next guy is because nobody has really stepped up.
I think it will eventually be ant, but you know,
it's at some point it's got to be more than
just There's got to be some substance in addition to
(12:56):
the style. I know, they destroyed a phoenix and they
beat they beat the defending champs Denver, but you know,
one Western Conference finals I don't think gets you that
crown at twenty two.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Years old, No, not at all.
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if you do want to chime in on the NBA
and Jason tam you can do that eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox. But but you know, we look
(16:06):
at that social media and we talked about it earlier
in the show about what the NBA did today with TNT.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Fans are mad.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Have you seen their Instagram and all that Fans are
mad that their favorite pre and postgame show is going away.
Sure that TNT showed up late to the party. We're
both on the same page on this era. No doubt,
they played a dangerous game and they got burnt.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
They did well, But why fans are frustrated, why fans
should be frustrated is because of the point that you
brought up to lead the show. The money was the same.
If this was TNT just can't afford to match Amazon because.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
They nobody can be mad.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, it's business, it's whatever, but you have a thirty
year relationship with TNT. The studio show is iconic and.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
The best in all of sports, better than all the
NFL pre and post game shows, better than Baseball, all
of them.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
And it does bother me because it's like, at what point,
like you can't even say it's about money because the
money was the same, and it's just like, at what
point does anyone ever think about the fans. It's just
it's so frustrating to me. We have all these different networks,
all these different schedules, play on this day, play on
that day, and the ones that continue to suffer are
(17:32):
the fans. And that's the most disappointing thing about the
about the the situation with TNT is like it's the
fans that suffer. It's the fans that love that show.
The money was the same, There was no reason that
it had to end like this.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And then there are fans like Rob G who are
these big time Laker basketball fans and he's cool with it.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Everything is good. Rob g. Yeah, and I'm gonna say
this with all due respect.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
You know you say all respect that means gonna rip us'
super disrespectful is coming.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Here we go.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
I don't think you guys know what you're talking about, okay,
because anybody who watches Inside the.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
NBA knows that you don't learn anything from that show.
That's okay. It's an entertainment show. Are we're just talking about.
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
You don't have to be the best player in the
league to the face of what thing is.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
I don't need to have the NBA on T n
T for Inside the NBA to still be a thing
because it's been made painfully obvious over the years, so
much so that they built entire segments around it that
Shaq and Chuck do not watch the games, okay, but
here we do not care about the product.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And then on the shows like ESPN has the game,
the game and they break down the game, and people
an't watching that bit snoozer. Nobody that Rob G. Will
you admit that that snooze? Aer like, oh yeah, let's
go to the big here the statf what. No, there's
an entertainment level to it. And I'm not saying obviously,
(19:05):
and not everyone respect those guys, but they play is
for everybody, and it's not to say that just because
just because elitist Rob Geary sound like coach JJ Reddick.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Well we're gonna well, I'm gonna do a podcast we
break down the right, but you got to be a
coach to listen to.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
This podcast because we're gonna tell you exactly what happened
and this wasn't this player's fault because the other guy
didn't do this, and there was we were supposed to cut.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Left, and it's fine.
Speaker 9 (19:32):
I agree that there can be both, Like there's enough
content out there nowadays twenty four to seven, news cycle, radio, TV,
podcast whatever, that you can have both of those situations.
What I am saying, though, is if you like inside
the NBA that much, and there's obviously a huge segment
of the country that does, and if you're just reading
(19:52):
our YouTube and Instagram pages, a lot of our listeners
love inside the NBA, what I'm saying is you don't
need to play NBA games on TNT to get that
same product because what they do is immaterial to what's
actually happening.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I disagree, because that's what they call in the Biz
Shoulder program, right and.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
A lead in you gotta have like there's a lead now, Aaron.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
It's no, it's like you could you could have, Like
College Game Day is an awesome show. You don't have
to like they could do College Game Day in July
from a parking lot. But well, I mean it's still
you could still do college No, you do it because
you're on campus.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
You're celebrating the sport of college football.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And the game has happening, and the game is right,
and inside the NBA, it's like there is the attachment
to the game that they don't celebrate the game.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, they they crap on it.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, it's and that's why I give them credit, because
you're not just supposed to everything is great and all
these players are great.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Like does that that's what makes this show better? Is
like I watch it. They don't like back No, No,
you know what. I always have respect for Charles Balkley.
Probably the greatest thing I ever heard him do on
that show. Here you are on a basketball right the
show and he says it was a terrible game on
(21:15):
of that night, and he goes, this game is unwatchable.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
There's no way I'm watching the second half. This is awful.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
How many guys could get away with that on the
national broadcast?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Do you know what I mean? When the league is
watching and Charles is telling people to turn the murder?
She wrote?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
But as a post and that's also as opposed to
all of these other guys everything trying to sell you
on it is that it was the greatest thing ever.
And you remember the old days, the NFL draft, John Gruden,
Every player was the greatest player that ever lived, and
it was just yeah, and that that's part of what
makes a trace.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
So with that in mind, quickly before we get to
Brian Finley, do you think, because you know, Adam Silver
in the league is kind of petty and we've seen
that throughout history. Now, do you think the fact that,
as you said, they will say, why are we watching this?
These teams suck blah blah blah, did that factor into
their decision to say, you know what, even if the
money is the same, we're gonna go with Amazon.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You know what I think it is.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I really believe they looked at the two and looked
at the future.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
If you were to looked at the two.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And be honest, who's going to be around twenty years
from now for sure? Is it Amazon or is somebody
they sold tnt they get out of the cable business.
Cable's dying, people are cutting the cord. I mean, that's
what I think it is.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I'm the least, I'm the most critical. I don't like
Adam Silver, but I don't think it has to do
with them being critical of the league. I think it
is Amazon's global reaches all different corners of the globe,
which is what global is. And in to Rob's point,
you know, we'll see what the future of cable TV is,
no doubt.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
All right.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
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That's right, is Fowler fair here on the couple of
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NORD do so properly.
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Speaker 10 (23:24):
What's up fellas? What's up Rob? He's doing a great job.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Any Oh, thank you. I appreciate you for talking ball
with you. Definitely, Jr. Is a fibber. Got three baseball here.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I disagree with you time on Inside NB, I call
you an elitist one time.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Right, we got three baseball questions. Again, Jr.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Is the man of the hour, so we get the
first crack at every single one. So let's get right
to it. Question number one, JR. Kansas City Royal, players, coaches, fans,
they all have their panties up in a bunch this way,
tah When a D Bax pitcher plugged superstar Bobbywood Junior
when he was a single short of hitting for the
cycle on Monday Night should be noted with Junior had
(24:05):
one more at bet later in the game, but he
fled out to write, so he never hit for the cycle.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Jay are either way foul or fair?
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Said the Royals faithful overreacted to this whole situation.
Speaker 10 (24:18):
Foul. That is a foul. No baseball fans and players,
they get all exercisive these days. But back in Rob
Parker's day, before the advent of the color TV, and
when you got to mail via carrier. Pigeon would expect
to be brushed back or plunk because he was destroying
(24:39):
the d back pitchon. It was just downright disrespectful what
the fenale was doing. So listen to that faithball. The
fans have the right to be mad, and the d
Bacs have a right to protect that guy and retaliate,
which is what they did when the Royals pitcher nailed
the catcher Gabrielle Moreno with a ninety two mile an
hour thinker his own in the team ten three games
(25:02):
act baseball policing itself. I love it. Nobody hurts, you know,
everything's even well blood the next time. The fans always
gonna be mad when that guy gets plumbed.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's fair. It is an overreaction, my god. Like, he
had three hits in the first four innings, and now
you should push the guy back a little bit, right, Okay,
he got hit. It was no head hunting. And then
here's the other thing. They're all worked up. He got
another at bat. It was there only enough in the
game that he still could and they pitched to him.
(25:34):
They did hit him twice. He made out the last time.
I'm sorry. It was a way overreaction, as if they're
supposed to love the ball over to let Bobby Wood
Junior get the cycle. I'm not having it, so I'll
stick with what you just said. I believe fair. Yeah,
I think it's only fair because it was the sixth inning.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
If it was.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
The ninth, two outs, eight run game, maybe you throw
that little meatball over the the play so you get
the single.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
But he had another bat.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It was the sixth inning. To Jr's point, it's okay
to brush a guy back.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Early in the game. I have no problem with him,
all right. Story number two.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Ellie de la Cruz, Rob's guy thus swiped his fifty
first base of the season yesterday, is now on pace
for eighty one. If he reaches that mark, it would
be the most by any player since nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Jr.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
Easy question for you, given how relatively easy it is
to steal bases these days, is if foul or fair
to say that Elie de la Cruz is already one
of the greatest base dealers in MLB history?
Speaker 10 (26:42):
Fare He has a steed in the national base running
end steat to be an elite based runner, I think
in any era. But the rule changes have also encouraged
him right to feel more because it's easiest. However, with
this being the ever he's playing and we have to
judge him against the guys playing under the same rules,
(27:05):
he's running lap around them as far as stolen bases go,
and he's almost impossible to throw out running into basis.
Like Rob says, his biggest pizza boxes and limited amount
of pickoff attempts. So is he Ricky Henderson or Tim
Rains and Louke Brock. No, but he's equivalent of those
(27:26):
guys as far as his contemporaries are concerned. And he's
keeping the stolen base alive. So v Eli da kruz
Man foul.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
He's not the big pizza boxes.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
He already knows. Once you throw over twice aaron, you
can't throw over again. Right, You either do it or
it's a ball, so you have advantage.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
And here's the other thing, JR.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
If Ricky Henderson had these rules and the bigger bases
at first and second, you're closer, right, the first base
is closer and checond bases, Ricky Anderson would be stealing
two hundred bases a year. And I get it. With
the eighty one. But that doesn't make that he's a
great base dealer. Maybe in this era, but he I'm sorry,
(28:11):
I'm not buying into it. The greatest base dealers would
have a field day if they had most base stealing
attempts or bang bang at the play at the base
most are bang bang. So if you give me an
inch and a half on each side, I'm gonna steal
the bag.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Oh there's a tough one here.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
There's a tough one. I will say fair, yeah, because
the bottom line is.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Listen, Jay Z once said, men lie, women line numbers don't.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
And if every you know, selling crap parking. Now, if it's.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
So easy, why isn't everyone stealing one hundred and forty
seven bases in a season?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
So this guy's special.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I know the rules have changed, work noting by the way,
a lot of guys take advantage of a lot of
new rules, whether it's the way the ballparks are constructed
or whatever. So I have no problem. I think it's
incredible what he's doing. All right, last one Fouler fair
here in the OCAUP. But Fox Sports Radio JR. Gamble
sitting in with the fellas the Atlanta Braves have lost
seven of ten, including four straight coming into Wednesday nights doubleheader.
(29:14):
As a result, the club had that dreaded players only
meeting this week and hope he's getting them Joe back.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
So far not working, but JR.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
Here's the question, foul or fair to say the suddenly
sliding Braves will wind up missing the postseason all together?
Speaker 10 (29:30):
Sab I mean, on paper, sure they shouldn't. They probably
shouldn't be struggling like this Mifella Zuna at MVP candidate.
They're hitting three eleven tons of RBI's home runs. He's
doing his job for sales and goods. Is the good.
The staff has the third lowest ERA right in all
(29:51):
of baseball, behind Seaple and Philly, so they're still constructed
to win games. The problem is nobody else on the team,
not the ob Matt Olsen, not Travis Darnaula, Austin Riley
or Michael Harrison. Second, nobody else is even hitting two sixty.
It's been contages and stacks played. The team who was
(30:13):
in the ConA already left them. The team's effectiveness when
it comes to distracting out runs, I think they would
still make the postseason. They won't catch the Phillies, but
they're two games up right now in that first wild
card spot, and I think they're better than the top
teams behind them right now, like the Mets and the
car News. Over the long haul, he's last sixty or
(30:33):
so games.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna say it is fair that they're not
gonna make the playoffs. I mean, they're missing two of
their big pictures, Freed and Strider, right, those guys, and
then Ronald Lacuna Junior, their best player, and I know
they won the World Series when he missed and he
was injured a couple of years ago. You can't keep
(30:56):
pushing that button. I just think they're gonna fade. And
you know what, here come the New York Mets, who
have turned it around. They're about to sweep this two
game series with the Yankees. They're playing better. I'm just
saying the Braves are going the other way, and I'm
not buying into them.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Too many injuries.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'll say foul, mainly because doesn't doesn't everybody like make
the playoffs seven there's only thirty teams in the league,
and I saw thirty eight teams in the playoffs. Like then,
It's like, uh yeah, whatever, because like college football, that's
the problem. Everybody makes it now Matt rules, so I'll
(31:33):
say foul, but also very talented team.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I think they hold on to get one of those
wildcard spots. And that's Fouler Fair.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
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Speaker 4 (31:45):
No doubt, Jr. Thank you, my man for the knowledge.
Speaker 10 (31:48):
Appreciate you, Thank you, Appreciate you more. Fellers, have a
good night.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Thanks right, all right, we're gonna put a bowl on
this bad boy and uh, the w NBA, the talking
heads just not in reality. I mean, I know I
said some stuff yesterday. You know, I'm not gonna apologize
for it. I meant it got more to say. We'll
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Speaker 4 (33:12):
Get off the air. All right, to wrap up this
bad boy today.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
The WNBA, and you heard the Cheryl Miller stuff that
she wants eight billion from that new TV deal. And
we heard earlier that the NBA said, thank you TNT,
but no, thank you, We're going to take Amazon's.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Maybe that's the real reason they turned down TNT. They
got to keep subsidizing the WNANBA.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But but you know, I called the WNBA the welfare NBA.
I know people don't like that, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Just saying, like, for twenty nine years, the NBA has
been subsidizing the leak because they don't make any money,
I know. And they offered them a three hundred rais
of the TV revenue that they used to get Aaron
is not enough, Like how shocking were just to hear
them like people saying like, oh, the WNBA should get way.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
More like based off of what it's it's bad. And listen,
I'll say this.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I think the whole wa WNBA enterprise has kind of
been exposed this year with every day there's a headline
and there's this and there's that. But listen, we're all
happy the league is getting more exposure. We're all happy
that Angel Reese and Kaitlin Clark have brought new eyeballs.
But at the end of the day, it is still
a business and I am so tired of this idea
(34:34):
that like, I hate to be a jerk, and maybe
this will get be thrown off the out a couple
of Fox Sports Radio for the rest of my career,
just like they don't deserve everything the NBA gets just
because they're a professional battle Like with the charter flights,
it's like, well, how can they not be flying Charter?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
It's like, I don't know, cause it's really expensive. Can
I tell you it is?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
When I started covering the NBA, yes, in nineteen eighty seven.
Guess who didn't fly charters. NBA teams, We flew commercial.
I used to sit on the plane next to NBA
players as a writer. There was no charter, you know,
because the league didn't make that much money.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
You know what the NBA did then they created this
thing called revenue, which allowed them to get charter flights
and get first class hotels and get all of the
things that they have. And so nobody is against the
growth of women's basketball, but this idea that they're entitled
to these things when to your point, they've never turned
(35:34):
a profit. But then to the broader point, you get
these things along the way. Again, to your point, George
Miken and Bob Coosey weren't flying first class making the
league wasn't making money, and then the league eventually made money,
and then you get the cool stuff once you start
making money.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Even this year with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reason, all
that's gone on and the attention at the WNB guy
post is reporting that the WNBA will lose fifty million.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Dollars this year, I know, five zero.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
And that was the other thing, like the whole like
the like the charts that you'd see, well, Wemby's making
this much as a.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Rookie and Caleb's making this much.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
It's like, yeah, they're different leagues, just like those phony
and sub NFL leagues that they have, Like those.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Guys XFL doesn't make as well.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Those guys aren't making any money, yes, because they don't
create money, create they don't generate money. So it's just
not the case until we're blue in the face, it's
just it is what it's called business.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
It is. That's it.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And mister Aaron Torres as always man, it have been
a long time, but it's been great.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I appreciate, appreciate you having me man. I had a blast.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Always always and uh man, the we continued. I don't
know as Andy Furman on tomorrow, I don't even know
Andy Furman. I guess right, Andy Fourman, the mayor of
Cincinnati will be join us here, right and we all
look forward to and he has topics already. I think
he's had him since Monday, but we might have to
change a field couple Jason Smith and Mike Harmon the
(37:12):
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a little while ago. Yeah. Yeah, we've been going. Me
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Something's going on always.
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kick butt, and I told Rob g everybody become Monday,
(01:28):
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Speaker 4 (01:30):
Been on the Olympic team.
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Coming up in about twenty seven minutes, it's a foul
Affair with JR. Gamble from mlbbro dot Com. We'll talk
some baseball with him with some topics Aaron. But let's
go to the NBA and Carmelo Anthony and Dwayne Wade.
I guess we did a podcast and it came up
about Jason Tatum, who finally broke through, right, won an
(02:28):
NBA championship.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
We know what a talented player he is.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Uh, we talked about it a few Yeah, he's gonna
be making like seventy million dollars a year at some point,
like you know, because of the TV contract and the money.
But he's a fine basketball player, he really is. But
he hasn't won like a league MVP. People wonder a question,
you know, really where he is on the pecking order
(02:53):
with finals VP remembers, right, he didn't even went finals MVP.
There you go, that's even a better point. But you
get my point that he's a a player, but kind
of understated, understated in NBA America, so much so that
Carmelo Anthony said that.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
He he's not that guy. I think it's because his
because he's the most like vocal his aura. Yeah, like he's.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
And the reason why we put an there is because
of his.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I want if j T had that.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Aura, it's over off the court. But that's not j T.
What I hate is in two years. If he don't,
the media is gonna change on him because he's telling
you what he's gonna do and he's doing it. But
so if he don't get to where he what he's saying,
if he don't go do it now, it's gonna be
what he can't do.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Was in that situation. J was in the same situation.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
So, I mean, we all get to enjoy the innocence
of Anthony Edwaris right now. The media is allowing. Everyone
is playing the clips, everyone is laughing. We love it.
It's gonna change really soon because the expectations is gonna
be there, not only because it's played, but also because
he's talks.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Wow, there's a lot to unpack this. Sure, I think
there's a couple of things. He did it, you know, Uh,
Jason Tatum won, But it's not only about winning that
makes you like a face of a league or how
people look at you. There's something more than that, And
it doesn't mean that. Of course, winning enhances that hard
(04:38):
to be the face of the league if you're not
making the playoffs every year.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Right, Mike Trout, we talked about Mike Trout.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
He was in the beginning Oh, basically he's the next
guy in baseball, right, Mike Trout, Mike Trup Mike Trout,
he was. And then of course when you start getting
hurt or whatever, people forget about you and they move
on to the next guy. Here's a guy who hasn't won.
And I think there's two guys you might say faces
of baseball, and none of them have won a World Series.
(05:04):
Chelroy Otani, right, sure, Aaron Judge. Sure, people might say
you want to throw Bryce Harper in the mix. He's
been to the World Series. He didn't win the Nationals
one when he left. So there's three guys.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Well, you could say baseball have three faces right now,
and none.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Of them have won. It's fair because it's about their ability.
It's about the swagger, what they bring to the table.
When Aaron Judge comes up to the plate, you're not
gonna go get a drink, right, You see him and
you go I want to see this at that, no doubt.
And there are guys like that. So Jason Tatum winning
(05:47):
doesn't put them in like a trajectory to be the face.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Now that he's won, I just don't think he has
what's the right word said Hutspus.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I almost wanted to say, but you know, like this,
there's a degree of wanting to see somebody or interested
in watching somebody play or the style of play that
I don't think he has. And he's a tremendous basketball player. Sure,
(06:23):
he's not glib, he doesn't say anything. He just does
his job. That's another thing, right, there's a couple of
things that are working against him where in U as
far as when you talk about face of the I
don't think that they're wrong about him not being a face,
but it has nothing him winning doesn't mean.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
That he's going to be elevated to that well one
hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean, and just think about the guy that people
are trying to promote as the next face of the
NBA right now, Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
What does he have the exact opposite one.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
He's got the flashy plays, the big dunks, the big blocks,
but he'll also talk smack, he'll clap in your feet.
You know, he's dunking on Kevin Durant Clapp And he
hasn't won jack and he hasn't won anything. And so
I think both things are true. I think, Uh, even
if you you don't have to win to be the face.
But even if you do win, it doesn't guarantee that
you are and.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
That that that's the one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, and you could go across sports and you know, listen,
first of all, this is just like like some guys
just have it right, Like you go back a decade.
Tim duncan accolades are identical almost to Kobe Bryant. And
you know, I know Kobe's no longer with us, so
it's always tough to talk about.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
But like I'll give you one. Let me say this,
don't lose, just train to talk.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
If Ray Allen doesn't hit that three, Tim Duncan is
six for six, just like Michael Jordan about that thought
of that. Nobody thinks like that he would be six
for six for sure. But if you were doing the
odd couple in two thousand and nine, you're not leading
the show with Tim Duncan, Like it's just the rehab.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
He's a great example, great exam.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
There's others, you know, golf, Look at golf right now,
what was the whole conversation? Scotty Scheffler wins every single
week in golf? First of all, serious question when he's
not in handcuffs. He's winning. He almost that was like
the best round he played at the US Open. But
it's like if Scotty Scheffler walked through here right now,
I can't speak for you. Maybe you watch more golf, No,
(08:16):
I don't. I wouldn't know who he was, wouldn't know
who he was. I would think that he was, you know,
I was the new maintenance guy. I just wouldn't know.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And it's he would be Dann Byer's he's hearing to
pick up Dan Byer or something.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, and so, but it's like, you guys, you know
you host every single day British Open.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
What did you guys talk about?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
He talked about Tiger who's fifty years old, can't even
complete four rounds because at least at some point there
was something to Tiger still is and there never will
be with Scotty.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
They can't let go that Tiger's still the face of golf,
even though Kim even in the ads when they promote
the Tiger's always in the background. Yeah, right, he's always did,
his pictures always in there.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Well, think about this if it with the golf analogy
for second is the live tour, right, they took basically
every marquee young guy, accept Skytte, Scheffler, Brooks, kepc Bryson,
de Schambeau, whoever. All these guys nobody watches live. Nobody cares.
They'd rather watch old Tiger limping up and down and
(09:24):
Rory to a small degree. But all these young guys
go to live and nobody's turning the channel. And if
Tiger's playing, your watching, and it just proves. And this
goes back to the Jason Tatum thing is Tatum's a
great player, but there's just something about in Anthony Edwards,
a Kobe, a Lebron, a Steph whoever, that you can't
(09:47):
keep your eyes off of them. And some guys are
just built and cut to be the face of the league,
to be a true.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Superstar, and other guys aren't. I agree. I just I
don't think it's everybody.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And people have it, you know, you hear that they
have it, and you were interested in them and you
want to know what they're doing and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
And I was fortunate I covered Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I was covering the NBA in and there was no
like I was sitting back then the Ryder sack court side,
and I was there, you know, for the big playoff games.
And I was there when he made that shot over
Craig e Low and so.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
There was ninety one ninety two, right, so this was
before Jordan was Jordan. But could you feel it, Yeah,
you walked in the building.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yes, indeed there was something special about this guy. And
this is that shot up with Craig Elow. Remember they
didn't win then, Like that was the start of his
greatness when when you got to see him and you
knew he was going to be something special. We know
what he did in college, but this was the NBA.
But there are guys like that, and it's not just
Jason Tatum was not elevated anywhere because he won the championship, Like,
(10:56):
oh okay, yeah, this is Jason Tatum's league.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, no, I agree, And I don't think it's helping
that even in the Olympics, he's kind of taking a
back seat to some other guys. I know that's kind
of not really the point of this conversation, but like
this would be the moment where he's twenty five, twenty
six years old, coming off an NBA title. You know,
if he was the best player in the league or whatever,
(11:19):
go show it with this Olympic team, So I find
that part interesting as well. Is even at the Olympics,
he's kind of taken a back seat, even as the
guy whose team just won the championship.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, and you're right, even in the Olympics stuff, no
one's talking about him, no one.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It should be about him and Edwards, shouldn't it the Olympics, Well,
I mean, I think it was like twenty two, so
I give it that pass.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
But Tatum has been around for a long time.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It is, He's right in the heart of his prime
and has Lebron getting eight points in the what was
it eleven points in the final four minutes or something
the other night to seal the win against Germany, so amazing.
All right, off the top ahead, if I said the
face of.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
The NBA, because I don't think it's Anthony Edwards either,
is it still Lebron James?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I think Lebron still moves the needle. People care about him,
the forty year old forty years old, and I think
that's kind of shame on the NBA for not figuring
out who that next guy is.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Now. Part of it is, I think part of it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Is none of these guys can sustain Like Giannis wins
a title three years ago, you think, okay, they're gonna
go on. People did think that that, Oh my god, right, yeah,
you know, Jokisch was never gonna be like the face
of league just doesn't have that personality.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But they lose in the second round this year, so
I think, I I.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Know we said that winning you don't have to it's
not just totally winning, right, Yes, I mean it doesn't
hurt you, It doesn't hurt yeah, But I think the
NBA right now is suffering from trying to figure out
who that next guy is because nobody has really stepped up.
I think it will eventually be ant, but you know,
it's at some point it's got to be more than
just There's got to be some substance in addition to
(12:56):
the style. I know, they destroyed a phoenix and they
beat they beat the defending champs Denver, but you know,
one Western Conference finals I don't think gets you that
crown at twenty two.
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Years old, No, not at all.
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if you do want to chime in on the NBA
and Jason tam you can do that eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox. But but you know, we look
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at that social media and we talked about it earlier
in the show about what the NBA did today with TNT.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Fans are mad.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Have you seen their Instagram and all that Fans are
mad that their favorite pre and postgame show is going away.
Sure that TNT showed up late to the party. We're
both on the same page on this era. No doubt,
they played a dangerous game and they got burnt.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
They did well, But why fans are frustrated, why fans
should be frustrated is because of the point that you
brought up to lead the show. The money was the same.
If this was TNT just can't afford to match Amazon because.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
They nobody can be mad.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, it's business, it's whatever, but you have a thirty
year relationship with TNT. The studio show is iconic and.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
The best in all of sports, better than all the
NFL pre and post game shows, better than Baseball, all
of them.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
And it does bother me because it's like, at what point,
like you can't even say it's about money because the
money was the same, and it's just like, at what
point does anyone ever think about the fans. It's just
it's so frustrating to me. We have all these different networks,
all these different schedules, play on this day, play on
that day, and the ones that continue to suffer are
(17:32):
the fans. And that's the most disappointing thing about the
about the the situation with TNT is like it's the
fans that suffer. It's the fans that love that show.
The money was the same, There was no reason that
it had to end like this.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And then there are fans like Rob G who are
these big time Laker basketball fans and he's cool with it.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Everything is good. Rob g. Yeah, and I'm gonna say
this with all due respect.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
You know you say all respect that means gonna rip us'
super disrespectful is coming.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Here we go.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
I don't think you guys know what you're talking about, okay,
because anybody who watches Inside the.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
NBA knows that you don't learn anything from that show.
That's okay. It's an entertainment show. Are we're just talking about.
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
You don't have to be the best player in the
league to the face of what thing is.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
I don't need to have the NBA on T n
T for Inside the NBA to still be a thing
because it's been made painfully obvious over the years, so
much so that they built entire segments around it that
Shaq and Chuck do not watch the games, okay, but
here we do not care about the product.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And then on the shows like ESPN has the game,
the game and they break down the game, and people
an't watching that bit snoozer. Nobody that Rob G. Will
you admit that that snooze? Aer like, oh yeah, let's
go to the big here the statf what. No, there's
an entertainment level to it. And I'm not saying obviously,
(19:05):
and not everyone respect those guys, but they play is
for everybody, and it's not to say that just because
just because elitist Rob Geary sound like coach JJ Reddick.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Well we're gonna well, I'm gonna do a podcast we
break down the right, but you got to be a
coach to listen to.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
This podcast because we're gonna tell you exactly what happened
and this wasn't this player's fault because the other guy
didn't do this, and there was we were supposed to cut.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Left, and it's fine.
Speaker 9 (19:32):
I agree that there can be both, Like there's enough
content out there nowadays twenty four to seven, news cycle, radio, TV,
podcast whatever, that you can have both of those situations.
What I am saying, though, is if you like inside
the NBA that much, and there's obviously a huge segment
of the country that does, and if you're just reading
(19:52):
our YouTube and Instagram pages, a lot of our listeners
love inside the NBA, what I'm saying is you don't
need to play NBA games on TNT to get that
same product because what they do is immaterial to what's
actually happening.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I disagree, because that's what they call in the Biz
Shoulder program, right and.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
A lead in you gotta have like there's a lead now, Aaron.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
It's no, it's like you could you could have, Like
College Game Day is an awesome show. You don't have
to like they could do College Game Day in July
from a parking lot. But well, I mean it's still
you could still do college No, you do it because
you're on campus.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
You're celebrating the sport of college football.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And the game has happening, and the game is right,
and inside the NBA, it's like there is the attachment
to the game that they don't celebrate the game.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, they they crap on it.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, it's and that's why I give them credit, because
you're not just supposed to everything is great and all
these players are great.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Like does that that's what makes this show better? Is
like I watch it. They don't like back No, No,
you know what. I always have respect for Charles Balkley.
Probably the greatest thing I ever heard him do on
that show. Here you are on a basketball right the
show and he says it was a terrible game on
(21:15):
of that night, and he goes, this game is unwatchable.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
There's no way I'm watching the second half. This is awful.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
How many guys could get away with that on the
national broadcast?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Do you know what I mean? When the league is
watching and Charles is telling people to turn the murder?
She wrote?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
But as a post and that's also as opposed to
all of these other guys everything trying to sell you
on it is that it was the greatest thing ever.
And you remember the old days, the NFL draft, John Gruden,
Every player was the greatest player that ever lived, and
it was just yeah, and that that's part of what
makes a trace.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
So with that in mind, quickly before we get to
Brian Finley, do you think, because you know, Adam Silver
in the league is kind of petty and we've seen
that throughout history. Now, do you think the fact that,
as you said, they will say, why are we watching this?
These teams suck blah blah blah, did that factor into
their decision to say, you know what, even if the
money is the same, we're gonna go with Amazon.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You know what I think it is.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I really believe they looked at the two and looked
at the future.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
If you were to looked at the two.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And be honest, who's going to be around twenty years
from now for sure? Is it Amazon or is somebody
they sold tnt they get out of the cable business.
Cable's dying, people are cutting the cord. I mean, that's
what I think it is.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I'm the least, I'm the most critical. I don't like
Adam Silver, but I don't think it has to do
with them being critical of the league. I think it
is Amazon's global reaches all different corners of the globe,
which is what global is. And in to Rob's point,
you know, we'll see what the future of cable TV is,
no doubt.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
All right.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Coming up next a little file affair with ja Agambill.
But first let's get you caught up.
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Speaker 9 (23:10):
That's right, is Fowler fair here on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Second, we go around the diamond discuss
all the biggest headlines in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
NORD do so properly.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
We had to bring in the man behind mlbbro dot Com,
the Man, the myth, the legend.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Jr. Gamble.
Speaker 10 (23:24):
What's up fellas? What's up Rob? He's doing a great job.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Any Oh, thank you. I appreciate you for talking ball
with you. Definitely, Jr. Is a fibber. Got three baseball here.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I disagree with you time on Inside NB, I call
you an elitist one time.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Right, we got three baseball questions. Again, Jr.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Is the man of the hour, so we get the
first crack at every single one. So let's get right
to it. Question number one, JR. Kansas City Royal, players, coaches, fans,
they all have their panties up in a bunch this way,
tah When a D Bax pitcher plugged superstar Bobbywood Junior
when he was a single short of hitting for the
cycle on Monday Night should be noted with Junior had
(24:05):
one more at bet later in the game, but he
fled out to write, so he never hit for the cycle.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Jay are either way foul or fair?
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Said the Royals faithful overreacted to this whole situation.
Speaker 10 (24:18):
Foul. That is a foul. No baseball fans and players,
they get all exercisive these days. But back in Rob
Parker's day, before the advent of the color TV, and
when you got to mail via carrier. Pigeon would expect
to be brushed back or plunk because he was destroying
(24:39):
the d back pitchon. It was just downright disrespectful what
the fenale was doing. So listen to that faithball. The
fans have the right to be mad, and the d
Bacs have a right to protect that guy and retaliate,
which is what they did when the Royals pitcher nailed
the catcher Gabrielle Moreno with a ninety two mile an
hour thinker his own in the team ten three games
(25:02):
act baseball policing itself. I love it. Nobody hurts, you know,
everything's even well blood the next time. The fans always
gonna be mad when that guy gets plumbed.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's fair. It is an overreaction, my god. Like, he
had three hits in the first four innings, and now
you should push the guy back a little bit, right, Okay,
he got hit. It was no head hunting. And then
here's the other thing. They're all worked up. He got
another at bat. It was there only enough in the
game that he still could and they pitched to him.
(25:34):
They did hit him twice. He made out the last time.
I'm sorry. It was a way overreaction, as if they're
supposed to love the ball over to let Bobby Wood
Junior get the cycle. I'm not having it, so I'll
stick with what you just said. I believe fair. Yeah,
I think it's only fair because it was the sixth inning.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
If it was.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
The ninth, two outs, eight run game, maybe you throw
that little meatball over the the play so you get
the single.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
But he had another bat.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It was the sixth inning. To Jr's point, it's okay
to brush a guy back.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Early in the game. I have no problem with him,
all right. Story number two.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Ellie de la Cruz, Rob's guy thus swiped his fifty
first base of the season yesterday, is now on pace
for eighty one. If he reaches that mark, it would
be the most by any player since nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Jr.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
Easy question for you, given how relatively easy it is
to steal bases these days, is if foul or fair
to say that Elie de la Cruz is already one
of the greatest base dealers in MLB history?
Speaker 10 (26:42):
Fare He has a steed in the national base running
end steat to be an elite based runner, I think
in any era. But the rule changes have also encouraged
him right to feel more because it's easiest. However, with
this being the ever he's playing and we have to
judge him against the guys playing under the same rules,
(27:05):
he's running lap around them as far as stolen bases go,
and he's almost impossible to throw out running into basis.
Like Rob says, his biggest pizza boxes and limited amount
of pickoff attempts. So is he Ricky Henderson or Tim
Rains and Louke Brock. No, but he's equivalent of those
(27:26):
guys as far as his contemporaries are concerned. And he's
keeping the stolen base alive. So v Eli da kruz
Man foul.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
He's not the big pizza boxes.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
He already knows. Once you throw over twice aaron, you
can't throw over again. Right, You either do it or
it's a ball, so you have advantage.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
And here's the other thing, JR.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
If Ricky Henderson had these rules and the bigger bases
at first and second, you're closer, right, the first base
is closer and checond bases, Ricky Anderson would be stealing
two hundred bases a year. And I get it. With
the eighty one. But that doesn't make that he's a
great base dealer. Maybe in this era, but he I'm sorry,
(28:11):
I'm not buying into it. The greatest base dealers would
have a field day if they had most base stealing
attempts or bang bang at the play at the base
most are bang bang. So if you give me an
inch and a half on each side, I'm gonna steal
the bag.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Oh there's a tough one here.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
There's a tough one. I will say fair, yeah, because
the bottom line is.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Listen, Jay Z once said, men lie, women line numbers don't.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
And if every you know, selling crap parking. Now, if it's.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
So easy, why isn't everyone stealing one hundred and forty
seven bases in a season?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
So this guy's special.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I know the rules have changed, work noting by the way,
a lot of guys take advantage of a lot of
new rules, whether it's the way the ballparks are constructed
or whatever. So I have no problem. I think it's
incredible what he's doing. All right, last one Fouler fair
here in the OCAUP. But Fox Sports Radio JR. Gamble
sitting in with the fellas the Atlanta Braves have lost
seven of ten, including four straight coming into Wednesday nights doubleheader.
(29:14):
As a result, the club had that dreaded players only
meeting this week and hope he's getting them Joe back.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
So far not working, but JR.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
Here's the question, foul or fair to say the suddenly
sliding Braves will wind up missing the postseason all together?
Speaker 10 (29:30):
Sab I mean, on paper, sure they shouldn't. They probably
shouldn't be struggling like this Mifella Zuna at MVP candidate.
They're hitting three eleven tons of RBI's home runs. He's
doing his job for sales and goods. Is the good.
The staff has the third lowest ERA right in all
(29:51):
of baseball, behind Seaple and Philly, so they're still constructed
to win games. The problem is nobody else on the team,
not the ob Matt Olsen, not Travis Darnaula, Austin Riley
or Michael Harrison. Second, nobody else is even hitting two sixty.
It's been contages and stacks played. The team who was
(30:13):
in the ConA already left them. The team's effectiveness when
it comes to distracting out runs, I think they would
still make the postseason. They won't catch the Phillies, but
they're two games up right now in that first wild
card spot, and I think they're better than the top
teams behind them right now, like the Mets and the
car News. Over the long haul, he's last sixty or
(30:33):
so games.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna say it is fair that they're not
gonna make the playoffs. I mean, they're missing two of
their big pictures, Freed and Strider, right, those guys, and
then Ronald Lacuna Junior, their best player, and I know
they won the World Series when he missed and he
was injured a couple of years ago. You can't keep
(30:56):
pushing that button. I just think they're gonna fade. And
you know what, here come the New York Mets, who
have turned it around. They're about to sweep this two
game series with the Yankees. They're playing better. I'm just
saying the Braves are going the other way, and I'm
not buying into them.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Too many injuries.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'll say foul, mainly because doesn't doesn't everybody like make
the playoffs seven there's only thirty teams in the league,
and I saw thirty eight teams in the playoffs. Like then,
It's like, uh yeah, whatever, because like college football, that's
the problem. Everybody makes it now Matt rules, so I'll
(31:33):
say foul, but also very talented team.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I think they hold on to get one of those
wildcard spots. And that's Fouler Fair.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
If you like more Fouler Fair, check out Jared Gambley
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Speaker 4 (31:45):
No doubt, Jr. Thank you, my man for the knowledge.
Speaker 10 (31:48):
Appreciate you, Thank you, Appreciate you more. Fellers, have a
good night.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Thanks right, all right, we're gonna put a bowl on
this bad boy and uh, the w NBA, the talking
heads just not in reality. I mean, I know I
said some stuff yesterday. You know, I'm not gonna apologize
for it. I meant it got more to say. We'll
say more about it coming up next. It is the
Odd Couple on a worship Wednesday, Rob Parker, erin tors and.
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Speaker 4 (33:12):
Get off the air. All right, to wrap up this
bad boy today.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
The WNBA, and you heard the Cheryl Miller stuff that
she wants eight billion from that new TV deal. And
we heard earlier that the NBA said, thank you TNT,
but no, thank you, We're going to take Amazon's.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Maybe that's the real reason they turned down TNT. They
got to keep subsidizing the WNANBA.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But but you know, I called the WNBA the welfare NBA.
I know people don't like that, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Just saying, like, for twenty nine years, the NBA has
been subsidizing the leak because they don't make any money,
I know. And they offered them a three hundred rais
of the TV revenue that they used to get Aaron
is not enough, Like how shocking were just to hear
them like people saying like, oh, the WNBA should get way.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
More like based off of what it's it's bad. And listen,
I'll say this.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I think the whole wa WNBA enterprise has kind of
been exposed this year with every day there's a headline
and there's this and there's that. But listen, we're all
happy the league is getting more exposure. We're all happy
that Angel Reese and Kaitlin Clark have brought new eyeballs.
But at the end of the day, it is still
a business and I am so tired of this idea
(34:34):
that like, I hate to be a jerk, and maybe
this will get be thrown off the out a couple
of Fox Sports Radio for the rest of my career,
just like they don't deserve everything the NBA gets just
because they're a professional battle Like with the charter flights,
it's like, well, how can they not be flying Charter?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
It's like, I don't know, cause it's really expensive. Can
I tell you it is?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
When I started covering the NBA, yes, in nineteen eighty seven.
Guess who didn't fly charters. NBA teams, We flew commercial.
I used to sit on the plane next to NBA
players as a writer. There was no charter, you know,
because the league didn't make that much money.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
You know what the NBA did then they created this
thing called revenue, which allowed them to get charter flights
and get first class hotels and get all of the
things that they have. And so nobody is against the
growth of women's basketball, but this idea that they're entitled
to these things when to your point, they've never turned
(35:34):
a profit. But then to the broader point, you get
these things along the way. Again, to your point, George
Miken and Bob Coosey weren't flying first class making the
league wasn't making money, and then the league eventually made money,
and then you get the cool stuff once you start
making money.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Even this year with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reason, all
that's gone on and the attention at the WNB guy
post is reporting that the WNBA will lose fifty million.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Dollars this year, I know, five zero.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
And that was the other thing, like the whole like
the like the charts that you'd see, well, Wemby's making
this much as a.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Rookie and Caleb's making this much.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
It's like, yeah, they're different leagues, just like those phony
and sub NFL leagues that they have, Like those.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Guys XFL doesn't make as well.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Those guys aren't making any money, yes, because they don't
create money, create they don't generate money. So it's just
not the case until we're blue in the face, it's
just it is what it's called business.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
It is. That's it.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And mister Aaron Torres as always man, it have been
a long time, but it's been great.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I appreciate, appreciate you having me man. I had a blast.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Always always and uh man, the we continued. I don't
know as Andy Furman on tomorrow, I don't even know
Andy Furman. I guess right, Andy Fourman, the mayor of
Cincinnati will be join us here, right and we all
look forward to and he has topics already. I think
he's had him since Monday, but we might have to
change a field couple Jason Smith and Mike Harmon the
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