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July 23, 2025 35 mins

Former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam is in for Rob, and he and Kelvin share what they believe are their most controversial NBA takes of all-time. Plus, actor Omar Benson Miller swings by to discuss the cultural impact of his most-recent movie, 'Sinners', what's currently ailing his beloved Los Angeles Dodgers, and much more!

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Thanks, you got a chance.

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We've had a We've had a crazy show for sure.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Omar Benson Miller coming up in about twenty to five
minutes or so. The actor you know him from Ballers,
you know him now from Sinners.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
He's been in a bunch of movies.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
What's the one with U? Spike Lee? I love the
The War One, the War film. I'll think of that.
Oh my god, I gotta get it was really good.
It was a sneaky one. It was about a group
of Black Soldiers. I believe they're in a Korean wharf.
I'm not mistaken. It was a really, really good and
I gotta get the title on that. No, no, no no.
If you as soon as you say it, I'll go there.
You go right there. That was oh miracle and Stanna,

(01:18):
I thought you said it on there. Rogie my bad.
So looking forward to talking to him. He's a big
sports fan and obviously an actor as well.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
All right, so we.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Had something planned, Ephraim Okay, then we were gonna hit
and we may hit in a second.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, we got it.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
We got to backtrack a little bit.

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We had Olden Polines, who played many years in the NBA.
Of course, he is a NBA analyst for Fox Sports Radio.
Done radio with him. He's a good get, a good dude.
But he drops something on us that, uh, we weren't
prepared for. Conversation was about how writers pundits list all

(02:13):
these websites, all these sites, and you know, they always
have Kobe Bryant usually somewhere out of the top five,
usually somewhere six seven is to about eleven ten, eleven twelve.
And the conversation was about why is that versus the
players who played against him oftentime have him one, two
or three. And so we had a conversation about that,
and then Olden pops up and we said, hey man,
well you know where do you bring He explained his

(02:34):
reasons why little list or this and you know, and
criteria is that, And we said, well, you know what
it since we're doing it, old and give.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Us your top five.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
And we said, clearly both of us, thinking even Coke,
you know he's gonna be in his top five, maybe
fifth or something. He said, no, Kobe's sixth, which isn't
crazy to me, because you got guys. Maybe it's gonna
be Bill Russell, it's gonna be Wilt Chamberlain, it's gonna
be Jordan Lebron and Magic. He said, Magic and bur
because they're pared at the Hipky you get that. Then
he said, I don't even remember who the rest because

(03:03):
then he hit us with John Stockton.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
And when he hit us with John Stockton, that's what happened.
That's silent.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
We I've never looked at you.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
So I didn't know it.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Is he trolling me?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Is he playing? Is he? You know? Man O p
no better than that man?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
And then he went on explaining and said he's no
one's ever going to take his two stads. His criteria
said he has the ulltime leader and assists, all time
leader and steals And I said, dang it, but he didn't.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
He didn't steal the ring from Mike.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
If he out here pilfering and everybody in top five
has a ring, at least you gotta give me one.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Everyone.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
And that blew us away.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
So anyway, is already any basketball take you have, any
whether it be a list or just something that you
know that I know, this ain't the traditional but dang it,
this is I feel about that that I don't think
anything will rival John Stock to be top five.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
I know you don't have that. No, it's not that,
but do you have anything?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Because that's interesting all this list and to his point though,
the criteria is interesting because rob Gen knows because he
and I will talk for hours about how I often
think as a general manager again, of how I comprise
a team versus sometimes just well who's the best, because
I believe I told you Kobe Bryant it's better than Shack.
But I'm going to take Shack because I feel like

(04:34):
I don't have to. I can have lesser around him,
and I'm gonna have pure dominance for a shorter time period.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
But the ceiling is through the roof, so that you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
That's one for me that I think is just I
know Kobe's the better player, but I'm going to take
Shack if you give me twenty two, and I know
I'm gonna get it for twelve years.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, however, give me Shack.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
When you go to conversation does get interesting if you're
going favorite players, like one of my favorite players of
my top five favorite players, not the top five rankings
of best players. Reggie Miller's in that, okay, just because
one thing about your favorite players, favorite rappers, favorite shows.
It's often in your formidable years. You know, you're twelve, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

(05:17):
something happened.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah, but your formative years. If it's Reggie Miller, then
there's also other players that were in your Oh.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, but Reggie Miller was doing a may He was
the guy who eight points eight seconds of the Knicks.
He was a guy remember I'm from Michigan. He was
lost to the to the Lakers in the finals. Later, yeah,
in my formidable years. He was a guy earlier lost
to the Bulls. And this is not a top five.
I know he ain't top five. He might be a
top fifteen years. I was just trying to this is

(05:49):
my favorite player, Like, I love watching this guy. That's
a different list, okay than your.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Top the top So then dub here's the question, Yes,
Olden Polies is not it mean to be a hot take,
but his hot take is that John Stockton one of
the five greatest players of all time. What is one
hot take that you believe to your core And it
might not be a popular opinion, but one that you
believe one thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
That I'm still taking Isaiah Thomas over Steph Curry. I'm
still taking I understand Steph is Steph and Steph is tremendous,
and I'm not mad if you take him over Zeke
like he he got to to his credit, his twenty
twenty two ring was the one that I said, Okay, now,
I'm not mad. Previous to that, I was mad at you.

(06:35):
If you I'm like, oh man, I don't, I don't,
I don't see it.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Don't getting.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I get he's great, he's the best shooter, and he's
this that, But I'm still taking Zeke for me was easy.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Oh that one put him the word. I don't have
a problem if you've.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Tooken Okay, along line is Zeke is still I'm still
taking Zeke. And it could be home biased, but I'm
still taking Zeke over Steph.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Well, let me ask you this, you two, rob, Who's
the greatest point guard of all time? Magic Johnson? Ron
Magic Johnson? Okay, magic man? If he in my top five?
Why would he he running the point in my top five?

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Do we need but we need we need to come
up with a combo guard conversation.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
Steph Curry is a shooting guard. He's a shooting guard.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
If he if we make if there's no combo, then
step is a shooting I resent is a shooting guard.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
There's no comp if we're not going to create the Q.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
You've all of the positions used to be labeled, right,
you had a point guard, a PG. You had a
shooting guard or a scoring guard SG. You had a
small forward right stretch three. You had a power forward,
and he had a center. Now there are no positions

(07:50):
even when you're voting for the All Star.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I mean Draymond is a center. There is crazy, but
there is no like. They're just players and that's affected
by the way because you just vote for players.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
So when you play position basketball, right, I'm a coach,
I'm a youth coach on my team's the point guard
leads our team because they have the ball first, they
set the tone and so as I construct my team

(08:26):
and design plays, I take the kid who has the
highest IQ because I know he'll be able to help
facilitate and help others and put them in an easy
position to score. Opposed to me having kids trying to
do things that they don't they can't do. So for me,

(08:50):
point guard is everything. Steph Curry is a tremendous shooter,
the greatest shooter the game has ever seen. But if
you're sixtieth on the assist list, you can't even come
into the.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Tomas blown away.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
When people say he's the greatest point wa wait wait,
if you want to say he's the greatest shooting guard,
well he can't be combo gard.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Okay, that's definitely not shooter there, that's two guard. That's
Jordan Kobe d Wade if you're going just right. So
that's why we have to have a Damian Lillard. Alan
Ivers just the greatest shooter, that's all I mean, he doesn't.
That's he's just the greatest shooter of all time. Because
people it's okay to just give him that. They call
him the point guard because he's the smallest on his team.

(09:35):
When he when you know, when it started lining.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
They asked Magic.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
They said, hey, Magic, you think Steph Curry is a
better point guard than you. Magic said, well, has he uh?
Magic the three time m v P. Has he been
a three time finals MVP? Has he won five rings?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well? Uh? Until he has. Don't ask me that.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Magic usually is the most diplomatic.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Don't ask me that again some time Magic Magic, Magic's
one is not even Magic is the greatest point guard.
And by the way, I think Magic and Bird are
starting to get slightly disrespected as the years go.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
But people have forgotten how good Larry Larry Bird was
League MVP three years and three years in a row
in the middle so stupid, right, Jordan was the middle
of Jordan's z Arthur j everybody was there in the Dolinigue.
He was back. And and when you he's Knrie time.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
You know what he has. You know what he's like.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Larry Bird is your favorite player from that era's favorite player,
similar to how Kobe is of the Tooth. Go ask
the Dominique look at his face, Hey, Dominique.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
How was like today's guys with Kyrie?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Exactly? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Like how nowadays, guys, we know Kyrie isn't the greatests
of But when you just go who's that guy and
they just start drewing, Man, Kyrie, do you talented? You
go ask any of them players back in the eight
I don't care if it's Isaiah.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
If you go ask Dominique, you go ask magic, go
look at magic face.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
When we start talking about you know, I work with
big Gang James in the building, start talking about that.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Mother, He's like, James big game on TV. You can't
big game that much.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Problem man, and I think were guys who are a problem.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I need you to be a problem.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
I need When you get off the bus, they're like, oh,
he's suiting up.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
For the other bench to go crazy, like Larry Bird
against the Hawks. Where you all you see is the
Hawks players grab me to falling out over dominic looking like, hey, hey,
he's torching us.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Cold bloody, yeah, cold bloody.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Larry Bird starts to get We have to tell people, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Gotta relax on the lady.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
So even if you don't have a quote unquote hot
take that you just full believe in your core that
you just roll with.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
He's just making a wisdom maybe like is it a
Tim Duncan, Like is he not in your top fifteen
or is he maybe your number six?

Speaker 5 (11:50):
He's my starting power forward on my top five. You know,
is one of the greatest power forwards to ever play,
hands down. But you can't even argue that it wasn't flashy.
He didn't say a word. He just gave you the business.
That's it, the business. He gonna give it all you
want and there's nothing you can do to stop.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
He was for those who don't know or don't get it,
because you know, if you're twenty six, you didn't really
see it.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Lord he would.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I'll tell I always tell people what made Tim Duncan great?
So why is he to talk? Look at his numbers.
It's like twenty and ten. What's the biggest Plenty of
people at twenty ten. Then you didn't watch he made
the He was kind of Patrick Mahomes like, and he
made three plays in that game. The last couple years
of Patrick Mahomes, he hasn't been great, the greatest. This
is in his first few years. But he makes three plays. Again,

(12:36):
you go this and you're if you're playing against him,
if you're Josh Allen, I'll play it. I did. How
did we lose him? Tim Duncan would make the most
annoying block shot. He just had the most opportunity IQ.
He would make the most annoying jump hook when you
need when his team needed the most, he would make
the most annoying backskin turn around and Tim.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Popovich didn't take him out the game in that Miami
at the end of that game, then that rebound doesn't
get tipped out to Chris Bosh who gets it.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
Have you guys seen the KG Cliff talking about when
he tried to trash talk to him Duncan and then
he would just give up. He'd be wasting his energy
trying to get him on raleible and work and he's
like no, but Timmy would talk tracks, but he would
do it in phrases and save the words and I
don't jump there.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
He'd be like, got you got your most and.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Then he's like the worst one.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
He'd be like, nice, try next time.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
That's cold blooded, right.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Tim Duncan was the most annoying to you know, I'm
a Laker fan. Game seven, you know, Pistons go to
the finals with him. He would just make the most annoying,
perfectly perfect play. You're like, all right, we were down eight,
we're making a comeback. You feel like he would just
make a shot off the glass and then block a
shot two plays in a row, and you like, the.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Perfect play man.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
That's what I That's what I need in my top
five I need the guys making the perfect.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
So speaking of that Spurs heat final real quick against
it my big hot take that I stand on that,
similar to yours with Isaiah or Steph. I believe to
my core that the Heatles era was a disappointment and
they want two championships.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh yeah, I think a lot. I don't think. Is
that not a hot take anymore?

Speaker 5 (14:09):
No? No, no, it's not a hot take because they started
it off getting beat by a guy, right, they started
that all they got beat by a guy.

Speaker 6 (14:20):
All run, I must say, the exciting White's getting a
lot of love in this segment, Incid.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Well, all I'm saying is that took the mistique from
the Heatles and brought him down on ours. Yeah, they
went and won two back to back after that, but
it just wasn't enough to suspend.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
And then when they went out they went out bad.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Yeah, to mee, that was it.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
If they let's say they lost to the Spurs on
that on that, you know, when they played them again
twenty fourteen, let's say they bought, but you know, came
back and won another one.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
But the fact that they just ended it all. Think
about it like this, like the Rockets in the nineties.
They got two in when Jordan, you know, took off.
They got two in. But we don't talk about that
team as you know, the greatest teams or anything like. No,
they won two championships. They should have possibly won more,
but they didn't. The heat you know, they said six, seven, eight, nine, however,

(15:14):
many championships and they just didn't get it done.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
And because it.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Started off in a place where they weren't taking their
opponents serious in the finals and it came back.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
To their and that's a key part.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Had they lost to the MAVs in the game seven
and Dirk just went crazy forty eight, maybe Lebron had
forty four.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
It was just one of the most epic duels ever.
They were up three to two right in that series
and then they came back.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, that's what's disappointing because it's not often that you lose,
because nobody has disrespect for Magic losing someone else. It's
how you lose, right, and it's how Lebron looked in
that loss.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
If Lebron wins, that they go three, they went three
in a row, was a chance may stayed. Maybe they
good four.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, and that loss is the bit of all the
things more than the decision. In my opinion that to
this that's the biggest stain on his career. Is that
not just that you lost, it's how you looked in
the loss. You didn't go out on your sword, you know,
you didn't go out with the blade. You go out
losing with thirty eight points and you just lost. Like
if he would have lost in Game seven versus the

(16:24):
Warriors when they went you know, and end up coming
back down three to one, you'd be like, hey, he
went crazy though forty one forty one triple double, but
maybe Kyrie misses that shot they lose you Like, man,
he went crazy, you know what I mean? He looked
bad in the loss? Is what was the issue? Like
we all were sitting there going is he like, okay,
JJ Barrera's Rob G's height literally and he's guarding him

(16:49):
in the like, what's going on here?

Speaker 4 (16:51):
This one time? It woldn't even a joke. He's like
he's like, literally, you're.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
He's like three inches talking with him.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
If we've been honest, No, that's NBA height. Okay, he
ain't for real, for real three inches.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Tall on you? All right, let's get you this.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
If you have a strange NBA hot take, by the way,
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. You knows, maybe
you have somebody in your top five that shout out
John Stockton. Shout out to John Stockton. Maybe you're Olden Polines, like, yeah,
Stockton is a top five or something. You just think
maybe you don't have a guy as high as everybody
else does. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. We're
gonna do that as well. Omar Benson on the way.

(17:22):
Omar Benson Miller an actor and also sports fanatic. We'll
talk to him a little bit as well as the
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the a couple of Fox Sports Radio, you'll be Brian?
I said, b yeah, yeah, can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
You got to you?

Speaker 9 (19:30):
Okay, good?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (19:31):
I'm tired of the Kobe slander.

Speaker 10 (19:32):
Man.

Speaker 9 (19:32):
I can bring up a thousand instances of why Kobe
is greater than Lebron, but I'm going to point to
one in particular. It's that a redeemed teams and four
Lebron led the team first ever lost in USA.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
It was embarrassing.

Speaker 9 (19:46):
And then what happened. Kobe comes to the team, snaps
everybody into it. Everybody's like, oh, he's different. They went
out to the club, they come back four or five am.
He had ice packs on his knees, and then they
started slowly showing up, and they started coming out and
coming out working out earlier and earlier, and then he
wants to guard the best player on the offense or

(20:06):
on the other team defensively and doesn't take a shot
at the whole first practice like coach k singing his praises.
I'm just I get it, OPI I was listening to
what he was saying. I agree, that's shocking about stocked
and being.

Speaker 10 (20:20):
In the top five.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Wait wait for two seconds. When you said I agree,
I was a hold up.

Speaker 9 (20:24):
All right, yeah, but I can't I kill how that
But but yeah, you watched that documentary said.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
No, no, no, he absolutely schooled Though I appreciate the
callby he absolutely schooled them. And I do think there's
something too having to learn to win and if you
go through Kobe absolutely knew how to win it and
was able to quote unquote redeem team them and showed
them y'all thought y'all were good, and you thought you
were working hard, and you thought you this is that
next level. And that's the thing I think, Well, Kobe's

(20:52):
mentality I think people absolutely love as well as the game,
but I think almost even more that the MoMA mentality
of the maniacal approach to it, the you know, the oh,
you just won the game, You about to go to
the money.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah, it's not over yet. You know, we're not forgetting
it's not finished yet.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I think those types of things of what people end
up ultimately loving to me, maybe even more than anything. Andre,
last one before we get to Manci. Andre in Massachusetts. Andre,
you're on with the Akama Fox Swords Radio.

Speaker 11 (21:20):
Yeah, how are you doing? Thanks for taking a call.
Kobe much more of a soloist, you know, in his
perspective and in his aspect how we dealt with people.
Lebron much more gregarious, you know, people person, you know,
almost kind of like the distincts from between Magic and
Michael Great Michael Auso himself. Magic more for the people.
But in terms of the head to head with those two,
what's glaring is Kobe only lost once in the finals,

(21:42):
and we never got to see the dream Championship between
Kobe and Lebron because Cleveland Cavaliers in nine and ten
weren't able to break through, specifically in O nine.

Speaker 10 (21:51):
That's glaring.

Speaker 11 (21:52):
They should have beat the Magic and we should have
had the finals that we deserve Kobe and Lebron going
head to head. Unfortunately those teams could breakthrough when we
were deprived. So in terms of straight winning, Kobe and
he is flighted because he was a winner, and as
much as he doesn't have the longevity stats that Lebron has,
just in terms of no doubt about it, I of
the Tiger after the Boston Celtics molly walked them, roughed

(22:16):
them up in two thousand and eight. You just look
at how his mentality changed in nine and twenty ten
when they when they went into those finals and Kobe
didn't blink and which is why he has the five
and Lebron only has the four. In terms of disrespect,
last point, people need to put some respect on Oscar
Robertson's name. And yes, Oscar Robertson, the big old averaging

(22:38):
triple double, averaged in triple double his first five years
in the league with the Cincinnati Royals, and he played
during the Bill Russell era, so it wasn't nobody getting
no championships, So people hold that against him, but it
was only eight teams and Bill Russell gobb was up
bolden dog on championships and John Stockton all time and
assists all time in steel and in this era we
need more of John Stockton with this load management nonsense.

(22:58):
Man missed twenty six games high career.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
No, I ain't mad at that, but top top five
was a little crazy, and he wasn't the five either.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, he was like three or four. That was crazy.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
All right, We got Monzi now, gonna get you settled
with training. I am here. I think my dad would
put John Stockton in his top five.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
He was a big John Stockton fan, and I'm gonna
ask him where do you have Johnson? Think you would
have put him even as a John Stockton fan. I
don't think your dad would.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
You're such a fan of him as a point guard.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Text him right now.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
But you never thought you would hear it ever, and
then you heard it today from olden.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
You never thought you were gonna hear that. That's true.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 10 (23:36):
It was.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was definitely something that you were like, did he
say that?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
How about the slight flex?

Speaker 5 (23:40):
My dad's in Costa Rica.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
What they're visiting family?

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Oky was Actually, don't ever talk about me again, Ron Pack.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
That was a big flex.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
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Speaker 1 (24:00):
While thank you, Manti, it is the Odd Couple on
Fox Sports Radio. You have, of course Kelvin Washington and
Ephram Salon and for Rob Parker. And now we are
joined by Omar Benson Miller. He is an actor you've
saw just recently in Center. He is a sports fanatic
as well ed. You know him.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
That's my dude, and I'm still not letting him in
the door. I see centners.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Oh Mar, you still.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Can't get in.

Speaker 10 (24:27):
Cornbread had a serious impact on you.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Listen, Cornbread, I ain't gonna have me shook because he
was such a nice guy and then all of a sudden,
come on, let me just let me on in.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
We're supposed to be good.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Oh, what's good? What's good?

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Man?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Man? Life is good.

Speaker 10 (24:44):
I'm out here blessed. What a summer? What an own
summer in la? I love it.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
It's been great, right, Oh, I love it. You still
hot on the streets out there.

Speaker 10 (24:53):
I can't even mumbles. I mean, I just recently start
turning the ringer back on on my phone, and just
recently nobody knows. I mean they'll know now, but prior
to that, for the last four months, man, it's been Wow,
this movie's had an impact like none of it that
I've ever been in.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
But just saying a lot, well what happens.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
That's what happens when you cross over from actor into
sex symbol. Okay, and so I just you just have
to oh yeah overall over hey, man, I have seen
so many people out at the club with the overalls on. Man,
I'm like, oh, you done, you done started a whole
nother fashion trend.

Speaker 10 (25:29):
Trend setting sharecroppers, style.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Share bringing it back.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Hey you listen, overalls are back, people starting to you
know what I mean, you know, listen all styles given
twenty twenty five years, Oh, they always bounce back. Let
me just ask you this on the Center's tip. The
response from that film, people raving about it, people the
great combination, and you know you're in entertainment of critically

(25:54):
acclaimed but also word of mouth. You know that people
just like it kind of got the buzz from the
box office, but also, hey, man, did you say did
you say, wait, what's you wait now, I saw it
three times already. What was it like to be a
part of that, working with Ryan Kugler, Michael B. Jordan
and the crew.

Speaker 10 (26:08):
Well, first of all, it was I want to say
thanks to the audience, because this is a scenario that
word of mouth actually is what stirred the phenomenon of
the film, and it was global. And what ended up
happening was people started to speak about it because of
the feeling that you got the moment that the movie
was over, two things happened. I watched it happen consistently,
and it happened to me you wanted to be the

(26:31):
movie again, but first you wanted to talk about it
with somebody. And so that feeling, that powerful feeling of
going in a dark room with strangers and having that
experience is something that people have gotten away from when
they've been at home. And thanks to Coogler and his
brilliance and everybody in the film as far as every department,

(26:53):
from costumes to make up to music, to the director,
to the writers, to the cinematography to the acting core,
every he was at the top of their game and
so it really became something sensational. This film was taking
me all over the world and every single place that
I've gone, the response has been identical is wow, is
it jaws on the floor, Like what did I just witness?

(27:16):
This is crazy? I gotta see it again. And that's great.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Look, you've been in this business a long time. We've
been friends for a long time, and.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I just saw you. We were in Santa Monica.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
You came over to our event all that, and we
just caught up like old friends and all of that.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
But what I was telling you is.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
Your part in this movie, right, Like there was superior
acting all over the film, the direction of cinematography, all
of it, but your character played by you right. However,
it was written the way you played it from the
opening scene when you're out there with your wife, right,

(28:02):
and the scene just from that energy for the rest
of the film was electric. Like when you get this
role and you get this part, were you able to
take liberties and put your own spin on the character
Cornbread that we love so much?

Speaker 10 (28:20):
Oh yeah, But it was also on the page. He
started with a very strong blueprint with what was on
the page. And Ryan is I mean, he's like the
greatest coach you've ever had, is Ryan? It always makes
you feel like you are working with him and not
working for him. And he's got as much juice and
as much power as any director in Hollywood, and yet

(28:41):
he always treats you like a peer, and as an artist,
you're always heard. He treats you with respect. With that,
he gives you the latitude to take his words and
his ideas and add yours on top of him. So
a lot of that monologue that was there, a lot
of that was improvised, and you know, he was fine
with it, and he allows it to make it to
the final cut and to let various people shine everybody.

(29:04):
And I think that one of the things that he
does so well he deserves all the kudos and all
the checks and everything else that he's getting, is he
hires the right people and then he allows them and
trusts them to do what it is that they do well.
And in that case, for me, it was just taking
my personal experience and putting that into the character, which

(29:27):
seems to have resonated with people, which has been great
because it became this me Omar through Cornbread kind of
became the de fact those folksperson for the film in
a way which has sent me around the world, which
has also become a referendum on my resume. So you
had all the fans doing all these mashups with you know,

(29:49):
cartoons of Cornbread doing the ten Fricky Girls and all
this other stuff, and you know, so it's that saw
some mixed mashups the Teenage Uting Ninja Turtles because I
did the voice of Raths on Rise of the Teenage
Uton Ninja Turtles, and some mashed us with ballers and centers,
and so it's like the people have embraced me and

(30:12):
my career to date through this role in a way
that's just been fantastic as well as.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, you're rolling eight mile as well. I mean you've
had you've had a really really great run. Let me
let's get to the sports world as well. I know
you're a Dodgers fan right now. What's up with the Dodgers?
They've turned it around, got too in a row now,
but what the heck is going on? For a few
weeks prior to the All Star weekend, the the you know,
start of the return from the All Star break, they've
been struggling.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
What's the what's up with the Dodgers?

Speaker 10 (30:40):
No, man, I know we're on Fox radio and all
but the eave of the buck. It hasn't been right
since they went to the White House because the Dodgers
started off hot to fix fifth grease, and it just
it hasn't come together since. And we've had a lot
of injuries, We've had a lot of you know, we
have have had a lot of activity in the city
off the field that died. I just have chosen to

(31:01):
stay away from. And I don't know if that has
forced some guys to go into an introspective mode or what,
but the Dodgers have been stinking up the joint for
quite a while, and I think that what happened recently
is with show Hey coming back to pitch, it's forced
Doc Roberts to change the lineup a little bit, which

(31:22):
has been great in my opinion, because the more traditionalist
approach is your best hitter hits with people on base,
and so having guys on in front of him. The
game that they won this afternoon in a roundabout way
they run. They not even in a roundabout way. Really,
they won because of show Hey, Oh Tommy, because the
Rock Obaldelli, the Minnesota Twins manager, didn't want show Hey

(31:45):
to beat him in the bottom of the ninth, so
he walked the winning run and put the winning run
on base, which then ended up setting up Ruiz sapigraded
bat which ended up setting up Freddie Freeman, who is
mister clutch to get a big knock and who scored
the game winning run after homering in his fifth straight game,
show hel Tani. So hopefully they can turn the beat around.

(32:05):
I personally think that they got to figure out what's
going on with every pitcher's arm. I think throughout the
league they baby guys too much. And today Tyler Glass
now went seventy to one hundred and six pitches. Only
in the past tenty years is throwing one hundred and
six pitches a big deal? Subsequently, and coincidentally not wink
wink in the past twenty years, that's when everybody's arms

(32:27):
is getting thrown out too. Believe that these guys they
get hurt because they get baby because they're so valuable,
and it's a tricky paradox. So between him ten or Scott,
you know, there's a lot of guys that are hurt
right now, and hopefully they can come back full steam.
Rookie Sasaki and they have the team on paper, but
as we all know, that's why they play the games.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Bro, we're talking to Omar Benzon Miller. You need your
own show man.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Break it down and when you look at it, the scener,
the two seeds and you throw the curveball.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I love your perspective.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
I love how see what people in society, they only
want you to know and be good at one thing.
So when we have dynamic actors like you're right, who
come in and they have one heck of a perspective
and a take on something that they love right well,
to be basketball, baseball, football, and you deliver it so

(33:25):
well you can't even you can't even argue that because
you hit on some some poignant, powerful topics, starting with
the you know, the social injustice and stuff like that
that they're staying away from. And then the trip to
the White House that correlates to how the clubhouse might
be feeling about each other, which now comes in and

(33:45):
you're talking about the lineup change. Brother, Is there anything
you can't do?

Speaker 10 (33:50):
Man, I'm sure it's there right now, is running a
hundred yard dash. But I'm working on that too. I'm
getting some beach, get my legs back together, you know,
So I have to use my eyes in my mind,
I've used my words properly.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Look what's next, man, what's next for you?

Speaker 10 (34:06):
You know, I got another film that I did in
Italy that I've been running around promoting. I'm hoping that
it gets distributed here soon called Naples to New York,
which is an immigrant story about two children who sow
away on the merchant ship. And I played the cook
on that ship who has a problem with the salts
and the alcohol, but he has a good heart. And
it's actually a really really powerful film. It's been released

(34:29):
in Italy in the box office already did really really
well out there, and I'm doing that. And then I've
been reading scripts about the next picture that I want
to do. And you know, as they say in the streets,
I want to make my next move my best move.
I'm not the rush. I want to pick the right project.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
All right.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Well, hey, we're wishing you all the best, man, Omar Benson, Miller,
Omar Miller on ax player, you can probably have some
great sports text Yre, so go give.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Him a following. Hey, oh do you hit me?

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Man?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Text me your all right seriously? All right, beg all right.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
All right, man, thanks for having me, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Man, we'll do it again. Well, yeah, we'll do it
again for real. Appreciate you
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