March 19, 2024 • 39 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Chris debate whether Allen Iverson and Steph Curry are really the most influential NBA players of the last 40 years and tell us how much pressure Aaron Rodgers is under to perform next season now that the New York Jets have revamped the roster around him. Plus, Producer Rob G brings us a special edition of Trollin’ or Rollin’.
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All right, Marty, we were talking about Lebron's podcast with
JJ Reddick. I think it's a great idea. I'm looking
forward to listening to it regularly. Two very smart basketball minds,
one of them, of course, legendary and Lebron. And on
(01:57):
their first one they talked about a lesser of things
we already brought up to Jason Tatum stuff and discussed that,
but they are Lebron also gave his views and quickly,
mart it'll be interesting when they do this podcast, because
already we've done two. We're doing two topics on them.
Both are from what based off what Lebron said. All right,
(02:21):
when we talked about it on First Things first, it
was what Lebron said. It'll be interesting if as this
podcast goes on, are people because everybody's gonna be reacting
other players. The next players gonna do podcasts on it.
We're gonna talk about it on radio and television. Is
it gonna always be something? Lebron said, like it is reddick.
(02:45):
I mean, is he gonna get any like attention from this?
You know what I'm saying? Well, I mean it'll be interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I think he'll get the attention that he was looking
for the other day when he was talking about how
if he does a video about how Zion Williamson is
running the point only gets five thousand views, but he
criticizes Doc Rivers and he goes viral. Maybe just maybe
he could sneak all his basketball analysis in with this
when they they started getting some attention to that.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Right right, I feel you?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So anyway, Lebron talked about the players he thinks are
the most influential in the modern era.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Hereios Steph and Allen Iverson are the two biggest influential
guys in our game since since I've been watching and
covering it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
One.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
They're six three six ' four if you want to
Steph's not six to four.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
If you want if you want to look on the
back of a basketball card, you know you always lot
tall on the back of the back of the basketball card.
Alan Iverson and Steph they were just so relatable and
kids felt like they could be them.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
They were there.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
They were guys that.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Was not always counted on. They were small and stature,
and they just defined the odds.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right. Well, first of all, I mean Lebron hurt
himself by talking about they were six four because Steph
is six Steph is a legit six two. He's listed
at six to two and you know, I've obviously talked
to him before. He's about that. Iver since listed at
six feet and he's six feet probably at best, he
(04:18):
probably is a legit six feet.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I mean I'm tall, and I don't know if he's
five eleven. Like I'm tall than Alan Iverson. I've still
in the same room with them, and I'm tall about
six one six two.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, don't you think he's probably six feet? I at
worse five eleven, but probably a legit six feet or
right right under it. But so that that hurts when
you overstated that much. It's like, Okay, where are you
going with this? Well?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I was the think it's funny that he said he's
been covering the game for so long. I know you haven't.
You're playing the game for so long.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But we're gonna say Lebron was born in eighty four,
so when he started watching it probably close. I mean,
if you want to say ninety one, when he was
seven years old, I mean that's obviously the Jordan era. Yeah, yeah,
I'll say this. I don't think those are the two
(05:15):
most influential. I think the two most influential in that
time period. So let's say from nineteen ninety one, it
is clearly Michael Jordan and Steph Curry Jordan because I mean,
everybody wanted to emulate him. He's a cultural icon. He's
darn near mythical at this point. The Sneakers, I mean,
(05:40):
you guys had you know, we used to call the
Converse Docs doctor Jay's. You know, a lot of players warm,
but we all called him Docs because he was the
most exciting and best player.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That wore.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Magic and Bird wore the Converse weapons. You know, but
you know, people didn't really associate him totally with those
two players. You know, you had a Jordan was the
first to just blow up the signature shoe, and obviously
nobody's done it since him, like him, But you know,
he's the reason the Lebron's and the Iversons and the
(06:16):
Derek Roses and all of these guys have their signature shoes,
so that's clearly influential. He I also would say this,
he was obviously the biggest player even with Magic and
Bird there of the Dream Team and that team, Martin
sparked the international revolution, if you will, in terms of basketball.
(06:40):
They saw Mike. Everybody loved Mike. He went worldwide and
his greatness along with the other players, but mostly him,
is it really, you know, sparked an interest and a
desire and even a focus on getting better in all
these other countries around the world. And you know, Jordan,
(07:00):
like I said, it's just mythical. You can't take him away.
I think even for the worst, it wasn't his fault. Well,
because he was so athletic and game was so exciting.
Martin at a kind of a generation of players and
even scouts started putting too much emphasis on athleticism. It
was unbalanced, and they even though he had skills and
(07:23):
was very fundamentally sound, people just looked at the awe
inspiring plays and for a good chunk of time, Remember
there are a lot of guys getting drafted solely on athleticism.
Stro Miles Swift and Chris Wilcox, guys that weren't that skilled,
but they were getting drifted over. They're long, they can
(07:43):
jump out the gym. That you know, we can give
them the skills, and it didn't pan out for guys
like that. And if you look before Jordan and even
since Martin, Magic Bird Oscar, now you got Steph Harden, Luca.
(08:06):
It's about skills, right. These are great players that aren't
what we call athletic, you know in basketball terms, running
jumping out the gym, but they're skilled. And that's was
before Jordan and has brought it back after him. But
Steph obviously changed the game. That's it. Now, what I
will give Iverson if Lebron's talking about culturally, Martin Iverson
(08:32):
was the first player to wear corn rolls. And you know,
being African American, you grew up and you're younger than me,
But I ain't growing up in the seventies. I mean,
even brothers. A lot of kids had corn rolls. Sure,
you know, it was just I mean my daughters obviously
weren't in the seventies, but they had corn rows as girls,
you know, corn rolled their hair. That's a popular hairstyle
in the black community, but no one had ever done
(08:56):
it like in a mainstream setting. See, people weren't going
to work like that, Cops weren't having their hair like that,
No athletes wore their hair like that. It was kind
of viewed as too black and Iris wore. My first
time I saw him do it was that the All
Star Game if I remember correctly. Maybe it was a
little before, but I think it was the All Star
(09:17):
Game nineteen ninety seven in Cleveland, Ohio, and I think
he might have been in the Rookie game, but he
wore the corn rolls and obviously the rest is history.
He made it mainstream. He with the tattoos Martin. Black
people wasn't getting tattoos like that before. Sure, now all
these brothers in the league got tattoos all over their bodies,
(09:38):
you know. Hip He kind of was the embodiment of
the fusion of hip hop and basketball, I tell you,
And so all of that is definitely true with Iverson.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I tell you, Chris, my favorite basketball player growing up
was Allen Iverson, hands down, without a doubt, Number one
with the bullet do not doubt it. And as part
of the reason why I was anti Kun because Kobe
beat him in the finals. I was mad about it,
like that was like, say I got his though he
did Game one.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
At least, how about this.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I stayed home from a friend's birthday party and I
don't know, probably second or third grade to watch that game.
I will never forget watching that on standard definition back
in New Orleans, Louisiana. But in terms of like for
I kind of consider me and Lebron contemporaries. He's got
about four or five years on me, but I was
(10:28):
in middle school. We would have been in high school
at the same time, right if we had gone through
the same school. I one hundred percent agree with him,
which is probably rare that I probably one hundred percent
agree with Lebron because he does a lot of out
there type of stuff. But I won one hundred percent
agree with him in terms of Iverson and Steph because
when I was over Jordan, well, I don't know how
(10:50):
much Jordan he was remembering at the time, but so
you're taking Jordan, now, okay, I'm taking Jordan.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Obviously Jordan was the major influence. But to me, we
saw that and what Kobe Bryant was trying to do.
You know what I'm saying as opposed to like, but
Iverson man, sue he's a player kind of similar. And
I've heard this, I believe on your show before on
TV with Kyrie, where his impact on the game far
(11:16):
out weighs anything that he did in his NBA legacy,
right in terms of championships, MVPs, whatever, his impact in
the game, the way he changed an icon, the way
he the clothes that he wore, his hairstyle, the tattoos,
the interviews you talk about practice man, like all of that.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I remember sitting there, like, I'll.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Tell you this. I had an opportunity. My neighbor was
friends with Tim Floyd when he was the head coach
of the New Orleans then Hornets. Right, they asked, my
mom got me for Christmas an opportunity to be a
ball boy for one game.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
She said, you could pick whatever game you want to is.
It was without question.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
The Philadelphia seventy six ers because I had to see
Allen Iverson in person that way, it was without a doubt,
like he clearly, I mean, the impact that he had
on my generation is incredible. The one person I would
say that he didn't that he should have added in
here is Kobe Bryant because very much like Randy Moss,
(12:15):
when somebody makes a catch, he said, oh he got lost.
I mean, to this day, you shoot a piece of
paper into the trash, can they say Kobe like to
this day. So that's the one guy I would add
in And honestly, Steth Curry is the reason why I
can't play pick up basketball anymore because if some one
more snot no seventeen year old kid takes a pull
up three on a fast break, I'm ready to scream
(12:37):
and cry because that's a bad shot from the era
that I came from playing. So now everybody hoped that
they can shoot threes.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
As you know, we had my group, the King Movement,
had a basketball tournament in conjunction with the word church
in Cleveland. It was called the Midnight Rumble and we
five thousand dollars to the winner. So it was some
great players, guys that were recently high school stars in
Cleveland played college ball and watching it. Martin, it was
(13:06):
just it was just the difference in the game and
the way kids grow up playing now, because guys either
went all the way to the cup or shot a three,
or like drove and kicked it out for three. I mean,
just like you're kind of seeing the NBA. There were
a couple guys that had crazy mid range games, but
(13:27):
for the most part, most guys weren't dribbling and then
stopping on the dime and pulling up for a mid range.
There are a lot of times they could have but
they went all the way to the basket, and it
is I mean, Steph changed the game. I remember, we'll
close on this before the twenty fifteen finals and I
(13:48):
picked the Cavs in six, and maybe that would have
been true had Kyrie and Kevin Love not gotten hurt.
But I remember talking to Lebron before the series and
I said to him, I said, do they remind you
of the Spurs that you know twenty fourteen who had
beaten the Heat because they moved the ball, they shoot
the three. And he was like, nah, nah, He was like,
(14:11):
they they are totally jump shooting team. They not jump
shooting teams don't win championships. And at that time it
was pretty much true that Spurs team had Tim Duncan
as an anchor for if they needed to go inside
because the threes weren't falling. But now it has become
Steff's changed all that, He's totally defied conventional wisdom and
(14:34):
now jump shooting teams can win championships, all right? Eight
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and by tractor supply. Lebron says Alan Iverson, Steph Curry,
the most influential players, I guess of the last thirty years.
Your thoughts, Let's get Perry and Louis little thoughts.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Perry, you're on the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Thanks for taking the call. Fellas I think Lebron spot On,
I got a friend whose son, he's fifteen. He's been
playing organized ball for six years. You go to the games,
they shooting threes. As soon as they walk in the gym.
During halftime, all they're doing is shooting threes. No fundamentals,
shoot three, shoot three, shoot threes. And that's obviously the
(17:43):
step effect. And then as far as Iverson, not only
was he must see TV, but I'm forty seven man,
and like you said, Chris, I had a crew of
about ten guys, we all had braids and it was
based off of Iverson. And you know, Iverson was like
Jordan and the Shoes, it was that widespread. But I
(18:06):
will say one last quick thing. Honorable mentioned Kobe. Kobe
was definitely influential as whale. So thanks for taking the calls.
Are great.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
That's about off. I'll tell you what. My mama would
not let me get corn rows and I was mad
about it. She would not let me do it. And
I tell you the one time I got the chance
was COVID and no barber was cutting hair out here
for like six months and I finally got my braids.
Finally got my braids. RJ in San Diego, you're on
the eye couple.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
How's it going, brothers?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Life is good, friend man.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
Yeah, this is a touchy subject for me, man, because
my favorite player, my son. He's ten years old. He
will not leave the house. Literally, you want not leave the
house which has something Kobe.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
On and.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
Literally it's a shirt.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We have a big.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Mirror in the in his room. He he's upset to cook.
He's never watched Kobe. But I remember the day, you know,
Kobe passed, you know, as sad as that is. And
my son at ten years old, never watching Kobe obviously.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
The highlights and stuff, he cried.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
He cried for like a week and a half straight.
And it's it's just heart woman, man, Like for somebody
that never watched him play to fall in love with
Tony that much, like, it means a lot to me.
And this, this whole topic right here is it's like
on point man, you guys are awesome, freaking dope subject man.
(19:25):
And I'm a huge iver since man, And look, I'm
not even black, but I had corn rules. I grew
my hair out to be like.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, you see some there, MMA fighter, right, that's the
star right now? Where's corn rolls? You just fought recently?
You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I don't. MMA is not my bag.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean it's I can't think of his name.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
But yeah, all right, let's go to Kareem and Georgia.
What you got, my friend? You're on the I couple,
all right?
Speaker 10 (19:55):
So yeah, Lebron James was completely off and so the
last to call us. Wow, we know Michael first of all,
we all know Lebron James is not to give Michael
Jordan credits less.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Let's not even go there.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You know, hold on, keep the caller on. Michael Jordan
was an idol of Lebron's. I mean, he's always talked
about Penny Hardaway and and maybe Iverson, who are guys
he kind of really watched and somewhat you know, took
something from their game. But and he was younger, like
(20:31):
Martin said, he was a little younger when Jordan was
really doing his thing, but he always has. I think
the chalk toss wearing number twenty three, I don't think
that was to say I'm better than Jordan. I think
it was just as a salute to the guy he
grew up really looking up to. So I'm not gonna
say Lebron I don't think he hates on Jordan at all.
(20:53):
And I also think he's probably talking about after Jordan.
Like Martin, we kind of talked about that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, I think he's I think he's talking about the
league after Jordan because I think of like when I
my first basketball memory is Jordan over Russell, Right, That's
the first thing I remember really seeing. And I know
Lebron's got a few years on me. But again, he
was out riding bikes and stuff in Cleveland again, an
Akron those days, you know, before I got into middle
school basketball and high school basketball.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
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coming up.
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Speaker 8 (21:40):
Tom Brady, he's.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Done, Aaron Rodgers did not have a Pro Bowl season
to kiss me.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
It's trolling or rolling, that's right.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
It is trolling and rolling here on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Rado. I'm not Martin. Weis Martin sitting
right over there. But this segment's not too complicated, so
I figured ed. You know, I'm minute knock it.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Out for you. I'm trolling rob Gee because not only
is he making fun of my segment, is also taking
my guest feel away. That's right.
Speaker 11 (22:05):
That's right, all right, guys. I got three stories, and
you know how it works. If you like the story,
you get the roll sound.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
They see men.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
They don't like any of the troll sound.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Oh many, All right, here we go.
Speaker 11 (22:19):
Story number one. Count former Patriots Devin mccordy and Rodney
Harrison among those who are not happy with that Apple
TV Plus documentary The Dynasty about the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Both of those.
Speaker 11 (22:31):
Guys who claimed they were each interviewed over five hours
for the documentary hate the final product. They say that
exkews way too negative and they're not the only one.
So Chris Broussard trolling or rolling the Dynasty is less
of a documentary and more of a hit piece on
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Oh, I'm going to roll with it.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
They see me.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
In fairness, I have not seen it all right. I
am just totally going off the reports and off what
these Patriots players are saying. So take that, you know,
into consideration, but just based on what I've heard. Now,
obviously you need to put in there spy game, the
flake gate, uh you maybe even your talk about Belichick's
(23:18):
failure in Cleveland, failure in his first year in New
England before Tom Brady gets there. But there also was
a lot of good coming out of that whole situation. Obviously,
they're the greatest dynasty ever. If you want to break
them into two, they're two of the greatest ever. I
call it one. Over twenty years, it's the greatest ever.
(23:40):
They won the most Super Bowls along with the Steelers.
So just from the reports and what the players are saying, Yeah,
it does seem like it's kind of a hit piece.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I'm rolling one.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Have you seen any of it?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I've seen an episode, But this is the type. This
is what happens now when you don't have real journalists
doing documentaries and you just have basically access based documentaries,
you end up with one side of the story. And
that's what pretty much what seems like we have here.
You know, journalism is in a weird spot. But this
I think the most impact it is the documentary scene
because at this point everything is you know, written in
(24:19):
the eye of the people who give the access propaganda.
Speaker 11 (24:22):
Yeah, all right, story number two, trolling rolling here on
the eye couple Fox Sports Radio. I don't know if
you guys heard about this, but earlier this evening, the
NBA announced that the League Pass, you know, that app
that we can watch all the different games and so
on and so forth watching it right now, will now
offer betting odds in the app, and they have not
(24:43):
completely shot down the idea of eventually integrating live betting
on the NBA League Pass app. You can live bet
a game. For instance, I'm watching Luca and the MAVs
take on Wemby and the Spurs. You can live bet
potentially whether or not the Spurs are gonna I'm back
and cover the spread. Martin trolling or rolling, the NBA
(25:04):
may have taken this relationship with the betting space a
little bit too far.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I'm trolling it.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
Oh man hate.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
They absolutely have taken this well. I think I should
have rolled it now that I think about it. They
absolutely have taken this space too far. Why on the
earth am I watching the game and live moods pops
on the screen telling me about the over under, Like
I'm watching the game. If I want to bet the game,
I'll go to the sports book myself and put the
money down.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Ask somebody who gambles all the time.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
What I don't need is live odds on the screen,
Like that's something that takes away from the viewership of
the game, and really it puts it in front in
the face of people like I was watching sports at ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen years old.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I don't need to know what the line is.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I don't need to know what gambling is at that
point in time because it's very addictive.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I'm gonna troll it.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
Oh many.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I think Martin's right. I don't gamble on games or
anything like that, but I just think the unfortunately, the
Cats out of the bag. And Martin's right, But Martin,
it's in the face of these young kids anyway. Unfortunately,
it's like pornography on the cell phones. I mean, any
little kid with a cell phone can go look at
pornography now, So it just is what it is. This
(26:19):
is a step further. I feel you on that, but
the Cats out of the bag anyway, man. And like
I said, I don't gamble. I just hope people don't
really ruin their lives, you know, doing gambling and losing
losing a ton of their money trying to hit it big.
So it's unfortunate, but all the leagues are getting into it,
(26:42):
and it is what it is, all.
Speaker 11 (26:44):
Right, Trolin' Roland a couple Fox Sports Rado, Martin Weiss,
and Chris Bussard here tonight on Fox Sports Radio. I
don't know if you guys heard about this one either,
because I know you are huge college basketball fans, But
produce Zach Edy became a unanimous AP All American for
the set second straight season. It's pretty incredible honor. But
because Perdue consistently flames out in the postseason, doesn't feel
(27:07):
like he gets recognized as being one of the truly
great college basketball players in recent memory. Chris Brustar trolling
a rolling Zach Edy needs a deep tournament run to
cement his legacy in college hoops.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I am, I'll roll with it with an asterisk. I mean,
Zach Edy is excelling in a game that people just understand.
The best players his age aren't playing anymore. I mean,
(27:47):
that's just what it boils down to. This dude is
a fourth year senior, which is great. He's a senior.
Most of the guys that are really, really, really good
his age, they're in the NBA. Remember Luke Garza from Iowa,
He was great in college too. Heard much about him lately.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
He was getting some minutes last night. Two guys down
to your.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Right, right. And I'm not saying he can't be in
the league, you know, but I mean, you know, obviously
not a dominant anything close to a dominant NBA player
or even prospect, and so it just is what it
is now. I mean, if you're not a freshman or
sophomore dominating, it's gonna be hard for a junior or
(28:32):
senior to get that real respect and love when they're dominating,
you know, and the best players their age are already
in the pros, and the feeling is, man, if you
was really that good, you be in the NBA. You know.
So look, a deep playoff run would help. Uh, it
would give him a little more credibility. But I just
(28:55):
think a lot of that has to do with it.
Even if he had some deep runs, I don't know
how much love he'd be get less he won light
you know, had won two or three straight championships or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
So, Chris, did you troll that or roll that?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I trolled?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Not my best parkers in freshman? I think I.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Think I trolled it. I will, I'll troll it. I
rolled it. I said it with help him, but it
really Yeah, I'm trolling.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I'm trolling a deep play. Yeah, deep playoff run is
not going to help. In part because Chris is absolutely right.
We talk we talk about the dominance of college basketball
players at this point, UH as a reflection of what
they can possibly do on the next level. That's the
way that we kind of view this.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
The idea of like a guy like Bobby Hurley or
something like that, being a four year guy, you know,
any of these four year guys being true legends, and
plus two doesn't help that he has been bumped in,
you know, the first weekend of the tournament several times
in his basketball and his Purdue career at this point,
and we look at these other tall, skinny guys like
Victor Winbinyama and chet Holmgrint, and we I don't see
(30:00):
that out of Zach Edy, and I don't think that
is gonna be that way. So I think his legacy
is pretty much already cemented no matter what happens this March.
Speaker 11 (30:09):
All right, last one, trolling rolling, This is the personal
one for me, guys. As you guys know, Rob Parker
is currently in Harvard at some panel doing a great job,
I'm sure, at a speaking engagement. But did you know
that earlier today, at precisely twelve twelve pm Pacific, he
texts me a picture of a slice of pizza that said,
I'm going to hell extra cheese at Joe's New York
(30:31):
piece at Harvard Square hashtag so good. Interestingly enough, less
than ten minutes later, he posted on Instagram a picture
of a pizza with the caption I'm going to Hell
extra cheez a Joe's New York Pizza and Harvard so
Square hashtag so good.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Martin Wise trolling and rolling Rob.
Speaker 11 (30:47):
Parker texting his Instagram post to his friends before he
posts them.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'm actually rolling with this, they see me. As we know,
Rob Parker loves to feed the beast of the Instagram algorithm.
And I think it's better or if he has a
few people either verifying one way or the other, if
it's a good post or not, because if you laugh
at it. I mean, let's be honest, He's had some
pretty bad jokes in his day, so I don't mind
if he checks it with a few Truffted's horses.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
First, Uh, I'm trolling it.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Oh man, hey.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Desperate ploy for attention. That would be.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
No.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
You know, I love roh but I mean, come on,
just post it, man, It's your Instagram. You don't have
to ask permission.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I see, Chris, this is what he would do. If
he did post it, then he would send the post.
So it's either you get if you get the preview
or the post, that's it. But it's one of the
one of the two. He's gonna send you to your
text in box.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I guess so, all right, Moro couple, coming away, Keep
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and Graduate Hotels. Rob or Martin. Look, I'm not a
Jets fan, but I'm gonna give them some credit. I
think they have had a good off season. Now Aaron
(33:30):
Rodgers of course has to stay healthy for them to
do anything or even have the hope of doing anything,
and so do some of their new signings. But they
went out their offensive line, we know was their biggest problem,
you know, obviously after Aaron Rodgers getting hurt, but one
way to protect him is to build up and strengthen
(33:51):
that line. They go out and get Tyron Smith, eight
time Pro Bowl lineman from the Dallas Cowboys. They go
out and get Morgan Moses and John Simpson who were
on the Baltimore Ravens offensive line a year ago that
was one of the best offensive lines in the league.
And now today they have signed Mike Williams, the receiver
(34:12):
from the Chargers. Now, Williams has the same problem as
Tyron Smith. He's hurt a lot, all right, So they
are taking a risk and maybe these guys will get hurt. Heck,
their quarterback's forty or is thy He's forty, yeah, all right,
so he could get hurt. We get all that. But
if these guys stay healthy, Mike Williams, Garrett Wilson, those
(34:35):
are two very good receivers and Martin I'm saying this,
if they stay healthy. Now it's really on Aaron Rodgers,
all right. He's been making all sorts of noise and
controversy with his mouth since he got to the Jets,
and really before that, but certainly since he's been with
the Jets. Well, now it's put up a shut up
(34:57):
time because it's Tyron says healthy. If those two linemen
from Baltimore stay healthy, if Mike Williams says healthy, I mean,
come on, then they might add to David Clowney to
a defense that already was good. I'm just saying Rogers
was not very good as last year in Green Bay.
(35:19):
They got better without him. With Jordan Love and so
that's and I'm not Look, it doesn't put a stain
on his career. It doesn't mean he's not an all
time great and all of that. He's already solidified that.
But we'll see what he can do now, because if
these guys are healthy, they got enough to be good.
(35:39):
And if they're not, I'm gonna put a lot of
it on Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I mean, you know, you say, if these guys are healthy, well,
I said, well, if I you know, if I was
a multi millionaire, I drive a Lamborghini, but I'm not,
so I have a geek like.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Well that's a but that's a B. I mean, come on,
they're they're likelihood of them staying healthy and that bad.
It's around Tyress team games. We played thirteen. I would
take the thirteen he played last year was darn good.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
And that's the most he's I mean, if you didn
looked the year before that, year before that, Morgan Mogus.
Morgan Moses is two years younger than me. And I
tell you this, I only do very few NFL comparisons,
But the more you have in common with me, the
bigger problem you're gonna have being an NFL Star because.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
If you over hear thirty for a star, just stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
I don't buy it. I think this is my year.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
We get it's risk, Okay, so you're not even giving
them a chance to stay in health.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
This is this is a great fantasy football team at
this point, right, This is a great This roster looks
great in March, and a lot of it will be
on the engine reserve by Halloween. That's part of.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
The issue here. That are a Debbie downer, Chris the A.
I mean, I get that it's a little bit of
a risk, but I mean they gotta do this now
or never. For them, it is all in and you're right,
these dudes might get hurt. I'll be the first admit it.
But I'm just saying they are freaking Jets.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You know who they gonna do. You know who the
Jets are right now? The Expendables, the Expendables. When they
got Sylvester Stallone and all the rest of them old
ass dudes to come on that show or come on
that movie, the Expendables, that's who they are.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
It's the era of the Expendables. Mike Tyson's fifty eight,
you're about to be fifty eight years old and he's fighting.
Who would have thought that was coming. Hopefully the don't
get knocked on.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
His keyster and it'll be another loss for us old
folk if that's the case, because he's got a bad one.
I did the math on this just a few days
ago when I was on with VJ. If you take
the starting presumed starting tackles and quarterback for the New
York Jets, and you add their ages together, you're looking
at one hundred and six Chris, one hundred and six.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
These guys are.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Old and one thing for experience in football, you know
it could be a good table.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Six divided by three is thirty five.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
There you go, And ain't that bad because the quarterback's forty?
But we gotta stop with I don't just because Tom
Brady played for forever doesn't mean that everybody else is
gonna be able to.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I know, I totally get it. And I'm not saying
I mean, I probably won't even make them to make
the playoffs, But I'm just saying it's their healthy humor me,
isn't it on? Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Right? Like, if they're healthy, that's enough to be a
pretty good squad and if they're not, it's because he's washed.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, I think we're gonna see a waft Aaron Rodgers regardless,
because that at forty years old, you snap your achilles.
I don't see I don't see the path of recovery.
And I know that he's got his own complicated relationship
with science to put it nicely, but I'm gonna go
ahead and go with the history of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
On that one. Wow, Martin, Lord, I guess you and
Rod Parker seats, so you're gonna be hating. I get it.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
He loves Aaron Rodgers though.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah he does, he does, but uh, all right, it
is the okeupple, Martin, excellent work man, you did a
good job of filling in, But don't touch the dial.
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon a the next and they
bring fire.
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All right, Marty, we were talking about Lebron's podcast with
JJ Reddick. I think it's a great idea. I'm looking
forward to listening to it regularly. Two very smart basketball minds,
one of them, of course, legendary and Lebron. And on
(01:57):
their first one they talked about a lesser of things
we already brought up to Jason Tatum stuff and discussed that,
but they are Lebron also gave his views and quickly,
mart it'll be interesting when they do this podcast, because
already we've done two. We're doing two topics on them.
Both are from what based off what Lebron said. All right,
(02:21):
when we talked about it on First Things first, it
was what Lebron said. It'll be interesting if as this
podcast goes on, are people because everybody's gonna be reacting
other players. The next players gonna do podcasts on it.
We're gonna talk about it on radio and television. Is
it gonna always be something? Lebron said, like it is reddick.
(02:45):
I mean, is he gonna get any like attention from this?
You know what I'm saying? Well, I mean it'll be interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I think he'll get the attention that he was looking
for the other day when he was talking about how
if he does a video about how Zion Williamson is
running the point only gets five thousand views, but he
criticizes Doc Rivers and he goes viral. Maybe just maybe
he could sneak all his basketball analysis in with this
when they they started getting some attention to that.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Right right, I feel you?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So anyway, Lebron talked about the players he thinks are
the most influential in the modern era.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Hereios Steph and Allen Iverson are the two biggest influential
guys in our game since since I've been watching and
covering it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
One.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
They're six three six ' four if you want to
Steph's not six to four.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
If you want if you want to look on the
back of a basketball card, you know you always lot
tall on the back of the back of the basketball card.
Alan Iverson and Steph they were just so relatable and
kids felt like they could be them.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
They were there.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
They were guys that.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Was not always counted on. They were small and stature,
and they just defined the odds.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right. Well, first of all, I mean Lebron hurt
himself by talking about they were six four because Steph
is six Steph is a legit six two. He's listed
at six to two and you know, I've obviously talked
to him before. He's about that. Iver since listed at
six feet and he's six feet probably at best, he
(04:18):
probably is a legit six feet.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I mean I'm tall, and I don't know if he's
five eleven. Like I'm tall than Alan Iverson. I've still
in the same room with them, and I'm tall about
six one six two.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, don't you think he's probably six feet? I at
worse five eleven, but probably a legit six feet or
right right under it. But so that that hurts when
you overstated that much. It's like, Okay, where are you
going with this? Well?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I was the think it's funny that he said he's
been covering the game for so long. I know you haven't.
You're playing the game for so long.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But we're gonna say Lebron was born in eighty four,
so when he started watching it probably close. I mean,
if you want to say ninety one, when he was
seven years old, I mean that's obviously the Jordan era. Yeah, yeah,
I'll say this. I don't think those are the two
(05:15):
most influential. I think the two most influential in that
time period. So let's say from nineteen ninety one, it
is clearly Michael Jordan and Steph Curry Jordan because I mean,
everybody wanted to emulate him. He's a cultural icon. He's
darn near mythical at this point. The Sneakers, I mean,
(05:40):
you guys had you know, we used to call the
Converse Docs doctor Jay's. You know, a lot of players warm,
but we all called him Docs because he was the
most exciting and best player.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That wore.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Magic and Bird wore the Converse weapons. You know, but
you know, people didn't really associate him totally with those
two players. You know, you had a Jordan was the
first to just blow up the signature shoe, and obviously
nobody's done it since him, like him, But you know,
he's the reason the Lebron's and the Iversons and the
(06:16):
Derek Roses and all of these guys have their signature shoes,
so that's clearly influential. He I also would say this,
he was obviously the biggest player even with Magic and
Bird there of the Dream Team and that team, Martin
sparked the international revolution, if you will, in terms of basketball.
(06:40):
They saw Mike. Everybody loved Mike. He went worldwide and
his greatness along with the other players, but mostly him,
is it really, you know, sparked an interest and a
desire and even a focus on getting better in all
these other countries around the world. And you know, Jordan,
(07:00):
like I said, it's just mythical. You can't take him away.
I think even for the worst, it wasn't his fault. Well,
because he was so athletic and game was so exciting.
Martin at a kind of a generation of players and
even scouts started putting too much emphasis on athleticism. It
was unbalanced, and they even though he had skills and
(07:23):
was very fundamentally sound, people just looked at the awe
inspiring plays and for a good chunk of time, Remember
there are a lot of guys getting drafted solely on athleticism.
Stro Miles Swift and Chris Wilcox, guys that weren't that skilled,
but they were getting drifted over. They're long, they can
(07:43):
jump out the gym. That you know, we can give
them the skills, and it didn't pan out for guys
like that. And if you look before Jordan and even
since Martin, Magic Bird Oscar, now you got Steph Harden, Luca.
(08:06):
It's about skills, right. These are great players that aren't
what we call athletic, you know in basketball terms, running
jumping out the gym, but they're skilled. And that's was
before Jordan and has brought it back after him. But
Steph obviously changed the game. That's it. Now, what I
will give Iverson if Lebron's talking about culturally, Martin Iverson
(08:32):
was the first player to wear corn rolls. And you know,
being African American, you grew up and you're younger than me,
But I ain't growing up in the seventies. I mean,
even brothers. A lot of kids had corn rolls. Sure,
you know, it was just I mean my daughters obviously
weren't in the seventies, but they had corn rows as girls,
you know, corn rolled their hair. That's a popular hairstyle
in the black community, but no one had ever done
(08:56):
it like in a mainstream setting. See, people weren't going
to work like that, Cops weren't having their hair like that,
No athletes wore their hair like that. It was kind
of viewed as too black and Iris wore. My first
time I saw him do it was that the All
Star Game if I remember correctly. Maybe it was a
little before, but I think it was the All Star
(09:17):
Game nineteen ninety seven in Cleveland, Ohio, and I think
he might have been in the Rookie game, but he
wore the corn rolls and obviously the rest is history.
He made it mainstream. He with the tattoos Martin. Black
people wasn't getting tattoos like that before. Sure, now all
these brothers in the league got tattoos all over their bodies,
(09:38):
you know. Hip He kind of was the embodiment of
the fusion of hip hop and basketball, I tell you,
And so all of that is definitely true with Iverson.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I tell you, Chris, my favorite basketball player growing up
was Allen Iverson, hands down, without a doubt, Number one
with the bullet do not doubt it. And as part
of the reason why I was anti Kun because Kobe
beat him in the finals. I was mad about it,
like that was like, say I got his though he
did Game one.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
At least, how about this.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I stayed home from a friend's birthday party and I
don't know, probably second or third grade to watch that game.
I will never forget watching that on standard definition back
in New Orleans, Louisiana. But in terms of like for
I kind of consider me and Lebron contemporaries. He's got
about four or five years on me, but I was
(10:28):
in middle school. We would have been in high school
at the same time, right if we had gone through
the same school. I one hundred percent agree with him,
which is probably rare that I probably one hundred percent
agree with Lebron because he does a lot of out
there type of stuff. But I won one hundred percent
agree with him in terms of Iverson and Steph because
when I was over Jordan, well, I don't know how
(10:50):
much Jordan he was remembering at the time, but so
you're taking Jordan, now, okay, I'm taking Jordan.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Obviously Jordan was the major influence. But to me, we
saw that and what Kobe Bryant was trying to do.
You know what I'm saying as opposed to like, but
Iverson man, sue he's a player kind of similar. And
I've heard this, I believe on your show before on
TV with Kyrie, where his impact on the game far
(11:16):
out weighs anything that he did in his NBA legacy,
right in terms of championships, MVPs, whatever, his impact in
the game, the way he changed an icon, the way
he the clothes that he wore, his hairstyle, the tattoos,
the interviews you talk about practice man, like all of that.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I remember sitting there, like, I'll.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Tell you this. I had an opportunity. My neighbor was
friends with Tim Floyd when he was the head coach
of the New Orleans then Hornets. Right, they asked, my
mom got me for Christmas an opportunity to be a
ball boy for one game.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
She said, you could pick whatever game you want to is.
It was without question.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
The Philadelphia seventy six ers because I had to see
Allen Iverson in person that way, it was without a doubt,
like he clearly, I mean, the impact that he had
on my generation is incredible. The one person I would
say that he didn't that he should have added in
here is Kobe Bryant because very much like Randy Moss,
(12:15):
when somebody makes a catch, he said, oh he got lost.
I mean, to this day, you shoot a piece of
paper into the trash, can they say Kobe like to
this day. So that's the one guy I would add
in And honestly, Steth Curry is the reason why I
can't play pick up basketball anymore because if some one
more snot no seventeen year old kid takes a pull
up three on a fast break, I'm ready to scream
(12:37):
and cry because that's a bad shot from the era
that I came from playing. So now everybody hoped that
they can shoot threes.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
As you know, we had my group, the King Movement,
had a basketball tournament in conjunction with the word church
in Cleveland. It was called the Midnight Rumble and we
five thousand dollars to the winner. So it was some
great players, guys that were recently high school stars in
Cleveland played college ball and watching it. Martin, it was
(13:06):
just it was just the difference in the game and
the way kids grow up playing now, because guys either
went all the way to the cup or shot a three,
or like drove and kicked it out for three. I mean,
just like you're kind of seeing the NBA. There were
a couple guys that had crazy mid range games, but
(13:27):
for the most part, most guys weren't dribbling and then
stopping on the dime and pulling up for a mid range.
There are a lot of times they could have but
they went all the way to the basket, and it
is I mean, Steph changed the game. I remember, we'll
close on this before the twenty fifteen finals and I
(13:48):
picked the Cavs in six, and maybe that would have
been true had Kyrie and Kevin Love not gotten hurt.
But I remember talking to Lebron before the series and
I said to him, I said, do they remind you
of the Spurs that you know twenty fourteen who had
beaten the Heat because they moved the ball, they shoot
the three. And he was like, nah, nah, He was like,
(14:11):
they they are totally jump shooting team. They not jump
shooting teams don't win championships. And at that time it
was pretty much true that Spurs team had Tim Duncan
as an anchor for if they needed to go inside
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and by tractor supply. Lebron says Alan Iverson, Steph Curry,
the most influential players, I guess of the last thirty years.
Your thoughts, Let's get Perry and Louis little thoughts.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Perry, you're on the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Thanks for taking the call. Fellas I think Lebron spot On,
I got a friend whose son, he's fifteen. He's been
playing organized ball for six years. You go to the games,
they shooting threes. As soon as they walk in the gym.
During halftime, all they're doing is shooting threes. No fundamentals,
shoot three, shoot three, shoot threes. And that's obviously the
(17:43):
step effect. And then as far as Iverson, not only
was he must see TV, but I'm forty seven man,
and like you said, Chris, I had a crew of
about ten guys, we all had braids and it was
based off of Iverson. And you know, Iverson was like
Jordan and the Shoes, it was that widespread. But I
(18:06):
will say one last quick thing. Honorable mentioned Kobe. Kobe
was definitely influential as whale. So thanks for taking the calls.
Are great.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
That's about off. I'll tell you what. My mama would
not let me get corn rows and I was mad
about it. She would not let me do it. And
I tell you the one time I got the chance
was COVID and no barber was cutting hair out here
for like six months and I finally got my braids.
Finally got my braids. RJ in San Diego, you're on
the eye couple.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
How's it going, brothers?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Life is good, friend man.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
Yeah, this is a touchy subject for me, man, because
my favorite player, my son. He's ten years old. He
will not leave the house. Literally, you want not leave the
house which has something Kobe.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
On and.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
Literally it's a shirt.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We have a big.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Mirror in the in his room. He he's upset to cook.
He's never watched Kobe. But I remember the day, you know,
Kobe passed, you know, as sad as that is. And
my son at ten years old, never watching Kobe obviously.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
The highlights and stuff, he cried.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
He cried for like a week and a half straight.
And it's it's just heart woman, man, Like for somebody
that never watched him play to fall in love with
Tony that much, like, it means a lot to me.
And this, this whole topic right here is it's like
on point man, you guys are awesome, freaking dope subject man.
(19:25):
And I'm a huge iver since man, And look, I'm
not even black, but I had corn rules. I grew
my hair out to be like.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, you see some there, MMA fighter, right, that's the
star right now? Where's corn rolls? You just fought recently?
You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I don't. MMA is not my bag.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean it's I can't think of his name.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
But yeah, all right, let's go to Kareem and Georgia.
What you got, my friend? You're on the I couple,
all right?
Speaker 10 (19:55):
So yeah, Lebron James was completely off and so the
last to call us. Wow, we know Michael first of all,
we all know Lebron James is not to give Michael
Jordan credits less.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Let's not even go there.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You know, hold on, keep the caller on. Michael Jordan
was an idol of Lebron's. I mean, he's always talked
about Penny Hardaway and and maybe Iverson, who are guys
he kind of really watched and somewhat you know, took
something from their game. But and he was younger, like
(20:31):
Martin said, he was a little younger when Jordan was
really doing his thing, but he always has. I think
the chalk toss wearing number twenty three, I don't think
that was to say I'm better than Jordan. I think
it was just as a salute to the guy he
grew up really looking up to. So I'm not gonna
say Lebron I don't think he hates on Jordan at all.
(20:53):
And I also think he's probably talking about after Jordan.
Like Martin, we kind of talked about that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, I think he's I think he's talking about the
league after Jordan because I think of like when I
my first basketball memory is Jordan over Russell, Right, That's
the first thing I remember really seeing. And I know
Lebron's got a few years on me. But again, he
was out riding bikes and stuff in Cleveland again, an
Akron those days, you know, before I got into middle
school basketball and high school basketball.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right right, all right, we got a trolling and rolling
coming up.
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Speaker 8 (21:40):
Tom Brady, he's.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Done, Aaron Rodgers did not have a Pro Bowl season
to kiss me.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
It's trolling or rolling, that's right.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
It is trolling and rolling here on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Rado. I'm not Martin. Weis Martin sitting
right over there. But this segment's not too complicated, so
I figured ed. You know, I'm minute knock it.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Out for you. I'm trolling rob Gee because not only
is he making fun of my segment, is also taking
my guest feel away. That's right.
Speaker 11 (22:05):
That's right, all right, guys. I got three stories, and
you know how it works. If you like the story,
you get the roll sound.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
They see men.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
They don't like any of the troll sound.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Oh many, All right, here we go.
Speaker 11 (22:19):
Story number one. Count former Patriots Devin mccordy and Rodney
Harrison among those who are not happy with that Apple
TV Plus documentary The Dynasty about the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Both of those.
Speaker 11 (22:31):
Guys who claimed they were each interviewed over five hours
for the documentary hate the final product. They say that
exkews way too negative and they're not the only one.
So Chris Broussard trolling or rolling the Dynasty is less
of a documentary and more of a hit piece on
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Oh, I'm going to roll with it.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
They see me.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
In fairness, I have not seen it all right. I
am just totally going off the reports and off what
these Patriots players are saying. So take that, you know,
into consideration, but just based on what I've heard. Now,
obviously you need to put in there spy game, the
flake gate, uh you maybe even your talk about Belichick's
(23:18):
failure in Cleveland, failure in his first year in New
England before Tom Brady gets there. But there also was
a lot of good coming out of that whole situation. Obviously,
they're the greatest dynasty ever. If you want to break
them into two, they're two of the greatest ever. I
call it one. Over twenty years, it's the greatest ever.
(23:40):
They won the most Super Bowls along with the Steelers.
So just from the reports and what the players are saying, Yeah,
it does seem like it's kind of a hit piece.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I'm rolling one.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Have you seen any of it?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I've seen an episode, But this is the type. This
is what happens now when you don't have real journalists
doing documentaries and you just have basically access based documentaries,
you end up with one side of the story. And
that's what pretty much what seems like we have here.
You know, journalism is in a weird spot. But this
I think the most impact it is the documentary scene
because at this point everything is you know, written in
(24:19):
the eye of the people who give the access propaganda.
Speaker 11 (24:22):
Yeah, all right, story number two, trolling rolling here on
the eye couple Fox Sports Radio. I don't know if
you guys heard about this, but earlier this evening, the
NBA announced that the League Pass, you know, that app
that we can watch all the different games and so
on and so forth watching it right now, will now
offer betting odds in the app, and they have not
(24:43):
completely shot down the idea of eventually integrating live betting
on the NBA League Pass app. You can live bet
a game. For instance, I'm watching Luca and the MAVs
take on Wemby and the Spurs. You can live bet
potentially whether or not the Spurs are gonna I'm back
and cover the spread. Martin trolling or rolling, the NBA
(25:04):
may have taken this relationship with the betting space a
little bit too far.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I'm trolling it.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
Oh man hate.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
They absolutely have taken this well. I think I should
have rolled it now that I think about it. They
absolutely have taken this space too far. Why on the
earth am I watching the game and live moods pops
on the screen telling me about the over under, Like
I'm watching the game. If I want to bet the game,
I'll go to the sports book myself and put the
money down.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Ask somebody who gambles all the time.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
What I don't need is live odds on the screen,
Like that's something that takes away from the viewership of
the game, and really it puts it in front in
the face of people like I was watching sports at ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen years old.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I don't need to know what the line is.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I don't need to know what gambling is at that
point in time because it's very addictive.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I'm gonna troll it.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
Oh many.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I think Martin's right. I don't gamble on games or
anything like that, but I just think the unfortunately, the
Cats out of the bag. And Martin's right, But Martin,
it's in the face of these young kids anyway. Unfortunately,
it's like pornography on the cell phones. I mean, any
little kid with a cell phone can go look at
pornography now, So it just is what it is. This
(26:19):
is a step further. I feel you on that, but
the Cats out of the bag anyway, man. And like
I said, I don't gamble. I just hope people don't
really ruin their lives, you know, doing gambling and losing
losing a ton of their money trying to hit it big.
So it's unfortunate, but all the leagues are getting into it,
(26:42):
and it is what it is, all.
Speaker 11 (26:44):
Right, Trolin' Roland a couple Fox Sports Rado, Martin Weiss,
and Chris Bussard here tonight on Fox Sports Radio. I
don't know if you guys heard about this one either,
because I know you are huge college basketball fans, But
produce Zach Edy became a unanimous AP All American for
the set second straight season. It's pretty incredible honor. But
because Perdue consistently flames out in the postseason, doesn't feel
(27:07):
like he gets recognized as being one of the truly
great college basketball players in recent memory. Chris Brustar trolling
a rolling Zach Edy needs a deep tournament run to
cement his legacy in college hoops.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I am, I'll roll with it with an asterisk. I mean,
Zach Edy is excelling in a game that people just understand.
The best players his age aren't playing anymore. I mean,
(27:47):
that's just what it boils down to. This dude is
a fourth year senior, which is great. He's a senior.
Most of the guys that are really, really, really good
his age, they're in the NBA. Remember Luke Garza from Iowa,
He was great in college too. Heard much about him lately.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
He was getting some minutes last night. Two guys down
to your.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Right, right. And I'm not saying he can't be in
the league, you know, but I mean, you know, obviously
not a dominant anything close to a dominant NBA player
or even prospect, and so it just is what it
is now. I mean, if you're not a freshman or
sophomore dominating, it's gonna be hard for a junior or
(28:32):
senior to get that real respect and love when they're dominating,
you know, and the best players their age are already
in the pros, and the feeling is, man, if you
was really that good, you be in the NBA. You know.
So look, a deep playoff run would help. Uh, it
would give him a little more credibility. But I just
(28:55):
think a lot of that has to do with it.
Even if he had some deep runs, I don't know
how much love he'd be get less he won light
you know, had won two or three straight championships or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
So, Chris, did you troll that or roll that?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I trolled?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Not my best parkers in freshman? I think I.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Think I trolled it. I will, I'll troll it. I
rolled it. I said it with help him, but it
really Yeah, I'm trolling.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I'm trolling a deep play. Yeah, deep playoff run is
not going to help. In part because Chris is absolutely right.
We talk we talk about the dominance of college basketball
players at this point, UH as a reflection of what
they can possibly do on the next level. That's the
way that we kind of view this.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
The idea of like a guy like Bobby Hurley or
something like that, being a four year guy, you know,
any of these four year guys being true legends, and
plus two doesn't help that he has been bumped in,
you know, the first weekend of the tournament several times
in his basketball and his Purdue career at this point,
and we look at these other tall, skinny guys like
Victor Winbinyama and chet Holmgrint, and we I don't see
(30:00):
that out of Zach Edy, and I don't think that
is gonna be that way. So I think his legacy
is pretty much already cemented no matter what happens this March.
Speaker 11 (30:09):
All right, last one, trolling rolling, This is the personal
one for me, guys. As you guys know, Rob Parker
is currently in Harvard at some panel doing a great job,
I'm sure, at a speaking engagement. But did you know
that earlier today, at precisely twelve twelve pm Pacific, he
texts me a picture of a slice of pizza that said,
I'm going to hell extra cheese at Joe's New York
(30:31):
piece at Harvard Square hashtag so good. Interestingly enough, less
than ten minutes later, he posted on Instagram a picture
of a pizza with the caption I'm going to Hell
extra cheez a Joe's New York Pizza and Harvard so
Square hashtag so good.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Martin Wise trolling and rolling Rob.
Speaker 11 (30:47):
Parker texting his Instagram post to his friends before he
posts them.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'm actually rolling with this, they see me. As we know,
Rob Parker loves to feed the beast of the Instagram algorithm.
And I think it's better or if he has a
few people either verifying one way or the other, if
it's a good post or not, because if you laugh
at it. I mean, let's be honest, He's had some
pretty bad jokes in his day, so I don't mind
if he checks it with a few Truffted's horses.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
First, Uh, I'm trolling it.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Oh man, hey.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Desperate ploy for attention. That would be.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
No.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
You know, I love roh but I mean, come on,
just post it, man, It's your Instagram. You don't have
to ask permission.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I see, Chris, this is what he would do. If
he did post it, then he would send the post.
So it's either you get if you get the preview
or the post, that's it. But it's one of the
one of the two. He's gonna send you to your
text in box.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I guess so, all right, Moro couple, coming away, Keep
you lying. Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 1 (32:03):
All right, it's the Couple. Chris Bruce Martin Weiss is
in for Rob Parker and we are wrapping up a
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And just like in basketball, where a successful game plan
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and Graduate Hotels. Rob or Martin. Look, I'm not a
Jets fan, but I'm gonna give them some credit. I
think they have had a good off season. Now Aaron
(33:30):
Rodgers of course has to stay healthy for them to
do anything or even have the hope of doing anything,
and so do some of their new signings. But they
went out their offensive line, we know was their biggest problem,
you know, obviously after Aaron Rodgers getting hurt, but one
way to protect him is to build up and strengthen
(33:51):
that line. They go out and get Tyron Smith, eight
time Pro Bowl lineman from the Dallas Cowboys. They go
out and get Morgan Moses and John Simpson who were
on the Baltimore Ravens offensive line a year ago that
was one of the best offensive lines in the league.
And now today they have signed Mike Williams, the receiver
(34:12):
from the Chargers. Now, Williams has the same problem as
Tyron Smith. He's hurt a lot, all right, So they
are taking a risk and maybe these guys will get hurt. Heck,
their quarterback's forty or is thy He's forty, yeah, all right,
so he could get hurt. We get all that. But
if these guys stay healthy, Mike Williams, Garrett Wilson, those
(34:35):
are two very good receivers and Martin I'm saying this,
if they stay healthy. Now it's really on Aaron Rodgers,
all right. He's been making all sorts of noise and
controversy with his mouth since he got to the Jets,
and really before that, but certainly since he's been with
the Jets. Well, now it's put up a shut up
(34:57):
time because it's Tyron says healthy. If those two linemen
from Baltimore stay healthy, if Mike Williams says healthy, I mean,
come on, then they might add to David Clowney to
a defense that already was good. I'm just saying Rogers
was not very good as last year in Green Bay.
(35:19):
They got better without him. With Jordan Love and so
that's and I'm not Look, it doesn't put a stain
on his career. It doesn't mean he's not an all
time great and all of that. He's already solidified that.
But we'll see what he can do now, because if
these guys are healthy, they got enough to be good.
(35:39):
And if they're not, I'm gonna put a lot of
it on Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I mean, you know, you say, if these guys are healthy, well,
I said, well, if I you know, if I was
a multi millionaire, I drive a Lamborghini, but I'm not,
so I have a geek like.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Well that's a but that's a B. I mean, come on,
they're they're likelihood of them staying healthy and that bad.
It's around Tyress team games. We played thirteen. I would
take the thirteen he played last year was darn good.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
And that's the most he's I mean, if you didn
looked the year before that, year before that, Morgan Mogus.
Morgan Moses is two years younger than me. And I
tell you this, I only do very few NFL comparisons,
But the more you have in common with me, the
bigger problem you're gonna have being an NFL Star because.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
If you over hear thirty for a star, just stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
I don't buy it. I think this is my year.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
We get it's risk, Okay, so you're not even giving
them a chance to stay in health.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
This is this is a great fantasy football team at
this point, right, This is a great This roster looks
great in March, and a lot of it will be
on the engine reserve by Halloween. That's part of.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
The issue here. That are a Debbie downer, Chris the A.
I mean, I get that it's a little bit of
a risk, but I mean they gotta do this now
or never. For them, it is all in and you're right,
these dudes might get hurt. I'll be the first admit it.
But I'm just saying they are freaking Jets.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You know who they gonna do. You know who the
Jets are right now? The Expendables, the Expendables. When they
got Sylvester Stallone and all the rest of them old
ass dudes to come on that show or come on
that movie, the Expendables, that's who they are.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
It's the era of the Expendables. Mike Tyson's fifty eight,
you're about to be fifty eight years old and he's fighting.
Who would have thought that was coming. Hopefully the don't
get knocked on.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
His keyster and it'll be another loss for us old
folk if that's the case, because he's got a bad one.
I did the math on this just a few days
ago when I was on with VJ. If you take
the starting presumed starting tackles and quarterback for the New
York Jets, and you add their ages together, you're looking
at one hundred and six Chris, one hundred and six.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
These guys are.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Old and one thing for experience in football, you know
it could be a good table.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Six divided by three is thirty five.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
There you go, And ain't that bad because the quarterback's forty?
But we gotta stop with I don't just because Tom
Brady played for forever doesn't mean that everybody else is
gonna be able to.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I know, I totally get it. And I'm not saying
I mean, I probably won't even make them to make
the playoffs, But I'm just saying it's their healthy humor me,
isn't it on? Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Right? Like, if they're healthy, that's enough to be a
pretty good squad and if they're not, it's because he's washed.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, I think we're gonna see a waft Aaron Rodgers regardless,
because that at forty years old, you snap your achilles.
I don't see I don't see the path of recovery.
And I know that he's got his own complicated relationship
with science to put it nicely, but I'm gonna go
ahead and go with the history of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
On that one. Wow, Martin, Lord, I guess you and
Rod Parker seats, so you're gonna be hating. I get it.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
He loves Aaron Rodgers though.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah he does, he does, but uh, all right, it
is the okeupple, Martin, excellent work man, you did a
good job of filling in, But don't touch the dial.
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon a the next and they
bring fire.
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