October 22, 2025 • 31 mins
Rob and Kelvin discuss the likelihood that Shohei Ohtani will open the doors for the next wave of two-way professional athletes. Plus, former NBA veteran and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Olden Polynice swings by to discuss why he had a big problem with LeBron James’ sideline mannerisms last night at the Lakers game, the narrative that we’re currently in the least-skilled era of NBA basketball, why he’s picking the New York Knicks to represent the Eastern Conference in the NBA Finals, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (02:27):
So a lot to get to.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, I was gonna say your pick right now, you know,
heading into the fourth quarter, Cleveland down one to the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
This game has been weird.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It's been up down, fifteen down, eighteen down, and then
this one is told.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You because I told you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I took Charlotte minus six five and a half six yeah,
five and a half. Right, they're blowing out Brooklyn looking
all right?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Right now, That's why I told you hang on to
your Cleveland one. A're still in this thing.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, hopefully they'll hold up, but they got so many injuries.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
We'll see one take that uh that won't go away,
holding up the take.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
That's driving me, Rob G crazy because everybody's texting us.
Who else is getting it? Elijah as well? Elijah's getting
it as well? Who Elijah? People are texting calling DM
and me people I told you yesterday. People I don't
even know how they got my number their relatives or
giving out numbers to their parents.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Who's been a fan? I've been following you for years,
listening but.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Then listening it and now here in Yo Shenanigans in
craziness with Otani your o tani take.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now you got a website publishing it and everything. Rob G,
you getting the hate too.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
It's gotten to a point now where it's not even
it's gone past to you know, come get your man's
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh can't believe Rob's saying that now?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Your boy now is I can't believe yo, ways say
that on the show like I'm the one who said it,
Like I didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
That's when people had me they were thinking about calling
link like the HR on me. They're like, this is
the fireball offens that you all would say this. I said,
hold up, I ain't say that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You want to you too?
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Oh oh yes.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
At my other employee ment of the Dodgers, somebody came
up to me and was like, don't you work with
Rob Parker?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And I said, I do, Actually, I know that stutter.
I know that stutter.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
I do yeah, And then like did you see what
he said about Atoni?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And I was like, uh yeah. I was like, Rob's tripping.
He's a cuckoo bird. I think I called you a
cuckoo bird. This is what I said.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I literally have a copy and paste response. Now he's
just like, man, Rob crazy, what you expect?
Speaker 8 (04:24):
Ha ha.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Copy paste.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm keeping pace with the Dodgers, right, I don't know
him that well.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I know, yeah, I don't know what they gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I see him down the hall. Yeah, next time I
see him and be like, I'm like, that's all.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
It's gonna be real funny the next time. MLB bro
wants a credential at Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Right, the only thing that works is that, Like I'll
be at the World Series here in l A.
Speaker 9 (04:50):
So you think you got to go through the national
point Okay, now I'm about to say they don't run
the local Yeah, next season, next spring, regular season Dodger
games for Rob Park All, Tony's English is gonna be perfect.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It's gonna be like not him, not perfect, be perfect.
He's not him. No, But speaking of that, uh, a
great one of the world's greatest athletes of all time,
who played Prime, who played in World serious and uh
and the NFL obviously coach Prime. He asked they asked
him about is this they's feet and just his thoughts
(05:23):
on baseball.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Here's what we had to say.
Speaker 10 (05:25):
He went through six innings, struck out ten, and then
hit three home runs in.
Speaker 11 (05:29):
The same game.
Speaker 12 (05:29):
Nicholas Man, he did what six.
Speaker 10 (05:32):
Innings, struck out ten and then went three for three
at the plate and hit three home runs.
Speaker 12 (05:37):
Hand him the MVP doing the game.
Speaker 10 (05:40):
I was going to ask you if you think that's
the best individual performance. Maybe not, but for a single
game in sports history.
Speaker 12 (05:48):
Yeah, because he's doing something that's unfathomable. I'm not gonna
say sports history because I don't. I can't recant everything
that is transparent. I hope he opens the door for
others because there's many more pitchers, many picking up more.
That's don sounds great, many pitchers that can do both,
but they're never allowed to do so because they put
him in a pocket and say you just need to
(06:09):
do that. So hopefully he opened the doors for others.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
See now what I loved about Dion.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He didn't just buy into the hype as the greatest
performance ever. Dion was measured. I don't know all of
to be able to say it's the greatest feed ever.
Thank you, because I want all you Dodger homers, okay
and o Tani lovers to first look up Rick Wise
(06:34):
from the Philadelphia Phillies in nineteen seventy one before we
get to the bigger topic.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
And look at what Rick Wise? Did? You know? What
he did? What did he do?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
He pitched a no hitter, one walk away from a
perfect game and hit two home runs in the game
in nineteen seventy one for the Philadelphia Phillies.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You hear me, he pitched a no hitter, not sixteen
ing oh o' jenny, pitch sixth inning. It's unbelievable. I
can't believe it. Pitch six inning and he hit three
old runs. Rick Wise did that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I gave you another example, Bob Gibson in nineteen sixty seven,
Game seven.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Of the World Series.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
He pitched a complete game, ten strikeouts, this is Game
seven to win all the marbles, and hit a home
running that game.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So don't give me that.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Nobody who ever pitched also didn't hit a home run,
because it has happened before.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I'm not trying to pooh pooh that right time.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
You have Raisin brand, you got meta mucu, you got
everything going on that right.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Because I sack more than anything special, I don't know.
People are going crazy, Yeah, they are going crazy.
Speaker 11 (07:46):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
We argued about that enough. We've gone viral. Enough about that.
I like the second portion of what Coach Prime was
talking about. Let me coach Prime Baby. He brought up
an interesting conversation to me, what old Tani is doing. Obviously, Gray,
it's a store we're talking about. It's viral, all those
kind of things. But I do think something we may
(08:06):
now see, which is why the other day when we were
talking about whatever happened Again, I said no. Then I said,
actually wait. The reason why I said wait, Coach Prime
alluded to what he's doing is opening up the door
for a six, seven, eight, nine, ten year old right
now who all their life have been told at a
certain point, well, you gotta specialize.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You're only gonna be a picture. You gotta pick what
you gotta do.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
You gotta pick.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You can only hit, you can only pitch. Nobody else
is ever, nobody does this like this.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You can do.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
You can be a picture who happens to be a
decent bat, you know what I mean, but not an
actual hitter. And what he's doing is opening up what
we're gonna see because the only person rob we are
the ones who actually limit what athletes can do.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
What do we say? For years?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
First off, we said black guys couldn't be a quarterback.
They're not smart enough, they're not this enough.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That was a literal thing. For those of you too
young to know that. Check the history.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Black quarterbacks couldn't exist because they're not smart enough, they
don't have the mental capacity about well, not the athletes
we will never know who might have been the greatest
quarterbacks of all time? Because they happen to be a
black quarterback and they led their college team to national championship.
Lead the national championship. You gotta go be a dB,
gotta be a running back, Go be a safety, or
go go Charlie Ward, go to the NBA.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And it ain't even that long ago. Don't forget that.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Under that, Bill Polian, who's a Hall of Fame general
manager from the Colts, talked about Lamar needing to be
a receive, a wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Go try to go get some reps as aiso. I
think about that. That's real and that was what you
know eight seven eight years right. So I bring that
up to say, we limit the possibilities of athletes with
our own brains and our own limitations. Right, Black quarterbacks
could have been dominating for years. Quarterbacks we don't don't run.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
That's bad. It means you don't see anything in the pocket.
You're being scared, you're running.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
That stupid Now, Jared guff is the last stand still
statue quarterback. And I'm serious. Every team has a quarterback
who can run, who's mobile. That's the norm now twenty five,
thirty five, forty years. No, because don't that's bad I
means you're not seeing thing. There's Frank targetin, they're Steve Young,
there's a handful.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
But they were the anomalies. So I'm bringing this up
to say.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
We might start to see maybe they don't go six, seven,
eight innings, but where you can see guys who are
great hitters getting three thirty home runs, you know, and
bat and two eighty whatever may be for them, but
they also can get you three innies. They can be
a mid reliever, you know, they can come in, give
you two innings, three innings, four innings. Maybe they can
start every now and again when you need them. We
might just start to see this happen more often, more frequently.
(10:30):
And that's the remarkable thing about what shoe hey old
Tany is doing. It opens up the floodgates of possibilities. Hey,
big man, it's okay to to shoot threes. We've gone
too far now. But hey, Bill Lambier, you're big man,
power forward, tough, elbowing people, fighting people. You're thinking of
you as big and strong and tough. Bill Ambier was
out there stretch forward, knocking down threes. Now it's common
to see winby seven foot twelve shooting threes. So my
(10:52):
point is this might usher in something where we didn't
think we'd see this. Twenty five years from now, it
might be normal to see kids who pitch and hit
and maybe not big time starters all the time, but
we might see it now.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think there's a chance. Not everybody, you gotta.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Go, you gotta be really special, because they're just everybody's
not going to be pitching and hitting and and doing that.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's gotta be it.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But there's there's more of a chance now because it
was such a long time between Babe Ruth and o'tani,
I mean, and that's really when you start to look
at and we talked about when I brought up rick Wise,
there were good hitting pitchers who could do could go
out home runs, you know what I mean, and stuff
like that. They didn't play every day or or the team.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Bart Alone bart Alone, right, Oh yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Finally who finally hit a home run and never hit
a home run, played all those years in the big
league and then finally hit one.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And they went crazy when he finally hit one. He
was out there, big belly, Jerry Curry. But they could pitch. Yeah, listen,
you're good at something, do it, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'm just saying, yeah, I don't think it's gonna be
a floodgate.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
It's gonna be. But but the idea that somebody is
of that ILK and has that great of an arm
and can hit that.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Kind of and especially now that we have the DH
in both leagues, remember that before it wasn't like that
because pitchers had to hit, so there was no spot
for a guy really to be a DH. And now
Otani can DH and pitch and still be you know,
and then when he pitches, he's in his DH spot,
So it makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 11 (12:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Now, Rob, just a quick question for you.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I know it's kind of apples to oranges, but obviously
Otani has been, you know, a unicorner. You guys say
that he can do both at such a high level.
And the question was, are we going to see the
next wave of athletes who are two ways stars? Well,
we already have one right now in football in Travis Hunter.
And I know it's early, but the early returns are
it's not going well as a two way star, do
(12:56):
you see. I know it's baseball and football, but the
fact that we have one guy doing it great, and
there have been others you know, you know, Chris Gamble
and Charles Woodson was okay, you know in college, didn't
really do in the NFL. Like, are you gonna see
players where they're like, no, no, no, Tani's different. No
one else can do what he's doing. That's why we're
(13:16):
not gonna allow you to do it, because they're trying
to do it over here and it's not working.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, I think that hurts a little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
If Travis Hunter, if they finally decide, okay, you got
to do this, you're not really good at the other one.
We're not. We want you to really concentrate. I think
it's gonna be hard anyway. And I don't think every
team is working on guys in the minor leagues. You know,
baseball different. They got to work on the minor leagues
in order to get up there. And I don't think
they're like, oh, yeah, you got to have a superior
(13:43):
arm and then be able to hit like that. Not
you're a slap hitter or you know what I mean,
you're just like this guy hits fifty home runs a year.
That's a guy's bat. I'm willing to allow to pitch
and do it or not because of that. I think
the difference will be what's asked. If Travis Hunter is
(14:04):
to be doing two things in the same game, Otani
gets five days away.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Sometimes, as you know, they didn't even have it. Sometime
he might skip a couple of what would have been
a normal rotation. We'll we'll get him in a couple weeks.
So that is able to do that, Yeah, seven eight days,
nine days since whereas Travis Hunter in his mind, you know,
I'm gonna play forty to fifty snaps on offense, forty
fifty on defense, and that can wear you out, that
can confuse you can use too much. That's why it'll
(14:30):
be more more difficult what Travis doing in the sense
of trying to do all both things in the same
game on the same day. All right, eight seven, seven
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O Tani being the two way star, one of the
greatest of all time. Doing that open up the floodgates
just starting having young folks, kids say oh, I can't
(16:36):
pitch and be a great hitter? Or is he just
an anomaly? Will we see more of an eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. I think he's gonna open
it up for about fifteen years from now, the young kids, now,
we'll just start to see a handful more.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
What say you want to hear from you?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Shan in Sacramento. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Sean?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, my uncle rub another mother cousin, kill me my
brothers by the board with them, I see real quick, man.
Speaker 11 (17:03):
I don't know what they replace your leave with.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
Whatever medication you've been on, you have been absolutely wild
and I'm not gonna get on you for the old
Tony take. But like Rob G and I were talking about, man,
if it's going to be a great two way player,
it's not going to be an American player. We're way
too specialized out here.
Speaker 8 (17:20):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I agree, Sean, I agree, just like Rob G twelve.
Speaker 11 (17:25):
Year old nephew.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
As long as as soon as they find out you're
great at baseball, basketball, soccer, even they're putting you in
travel ball, they're putting you in with the AAU ball.
They're doing everything they can to maximize your potential at
such a young age. By the time you get to
the pros, your legs are shot, your army shot. That's
why we don't see a lot of two way players
in any sport from the Americas.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Not Deshaun.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Great point, and not to mention the craziest part about
this is that all yet, all the guys will say
the greats. Michael Jordan, what was he known for us?
Playing baseball? Lebron James and football, Kobe played soccer. You
have so many guys who you'll play the million different sports.
Alan Iverson he didn't even really want to play basketball
because he's a football player.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Randy Moss played center field.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Ran was a sprinter, played basketball, was mister basketball West
Virginia and mister football like and we didn't even have
to go that far back.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Kyler Murray was drafted in the first round of the
NFL and the first round of Major League Baseball, the
first player ever in the history of sports jamis forty
years ago.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
It's the weirdest thing now that you feel like you
have to specialize at eight years old. You know how
any Donovan Mitchell who's a playing right now the calves
and knicks. He was a great pitcher of a great
baseball But what.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Does it say about the culture of American youth sports
when we all know a lot of former and current
professional athletes. To a man, everyone I've ever talked to
has said, play as many sports as possible.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Ye, but you're not.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
The ones who are telling you to focus. Are the
guys who never made it and they say, hey, age seven,
I need you to focus and lock me in out
on the basketball.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And it's bad, rob G. And it's bad because because
it is.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
These AAU coaches are coaching business of trains and they
want to but they want your parents to pay money
for the trainers. Shot coaches all this stuff, and then
you want you to be involved all year round, not.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Just during the sea one hundred percent. If you don't
have a trainer. Listen, I have very young kids. It's
crazy where this is going right now. If you're not
three already like soccer's gonna be it. You already got soccer.
She's got a personal coach. And we go on Tuesday, Wednesday,
we do this, and we do this, and you know
what happens. All these kids are burnt out. They're mentally
you know, I'm draining. We hear more than ever they're
(19:34):
they're mentally I lost. I don't know who I am
outside from this. Let these kids play and they'll eventually
pick what they like and find their thing and want
to do it. But the idea that they have to
do it from five years old. And you want to know,
last point, I know, we got another call.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You want to know why?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Look at all these top players that came out in
the NBA. Kyrie Irving hurt all the time, Lamar LaMelo ball,
lines of ball hurt all the time, Blake Griffin hurt
all the time, Zion Williamson hurt all the time. Ben
Simmons hurt all the time. I could go down the
list of these John Moran hurt all the time, all
these big time stars that come in the NBA. I
(20:09):
really started to watch. It's because they just hooped. LaMelo
Ball been playing basketball every single day of his license.
He was five how many games? Brothers playing it?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Take it easy and those bad sneakers didn't help. Yeah,
that didn't help it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm just saying, Uh, Marshall from Duluth. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Liver Radio. What's up Marshall?
Speaker 13 (20:28):
Well, guys, I do want to say quickly on that
last subject. You kind of hit it on the end there,
But I was gonna say, I feel like since they
don't do other sports, they don't train the muscles in
their body. Yeah, it's not just I'm overworking it like
they're playing all the time. But when you sprint, then
you train new muscles, and when you play football you
(20:50):
trained new muscles.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
You know some of that.
Speaker 13 (20:52):
But back to the first question, I was gonna say,
I think we'll see more people try it because of
the Tani experience. But the thing is, if we look
at the past prime time, why was he primetime? He
played baseball. He played offense, he played depense. I played
a ton of offense, but he did do that right.
But the thing is, I think the main thing is
(21:12):
kind of you're just saying with Au. A lot of
it has to do with money. Somebody's paying a picture,
you know, all this money. He's not gonna want him to,
you know, sprain an ankle trying to hit a double play.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
And then and in the day, Marshall, the best player
on the team, played shortstop every game except the day
that he pitched.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Like you played shortstop the best player, or you played
center field, Yeah, like you, You didn't just pitch.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And that's why these guys have rotator caff Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You're doing elected Tommy John surgery. That means we're choosing
to cut my kid's arm open. And they're thirteen fourteen
fifteen to get it down now, because it'll be better
if we get it down now, because then you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Don't know if he's Jesus going, bro, what are we
doing crazy?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Now?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I gotta tore up surgical repairs were at elbow. Yeah,
it's a lot going on right now, all right. Olden Polonies,
former NBA veteran We're gonna talk some hoops with him
in just a minute, right now, Monte Milanio is getting
you sett on's trending, Monci.
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Speaker 1 (22:22):
Thank you, monciv a great night. Appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Somebody does not want to win this game. This calves
next game. I know it's back and forth up now, yeah,
all right, appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
All right.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
It is the OKAPA, Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a
worship Wednesday. It's good to have the NBA back as well.
You got a good win, as Manti was saying, one fifteen,
one fifteen, two thirty less in this Miami Heat and
Orlando Magic game. And we got some more games coming
up too, So it's feeling good out the NBA back.
Just a great time to be a sports fan. We're
getting ready to talk to olden polonies speaking of in
(22:53):
the NBA in just a moment. Last night, of course,
you had the Lakers host of the Golden State Warriors
ended up being a win for the Warriors. Luca looked great.
A lot of people feeling like it could be Lucas
MVP season. We can ask that to Olden Polinices as well,
former NBA veteran Fox Sports Radio NBA analysts.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh that man, what's up?
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
How you doing going good? Man Stown? And we can
start right there. What I was just saying.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
The Warriors beat the Lakers by ten, but Luca, Luca
looked great. The rest of the Lakers look ay, but
Luca was great. What are you making this season for
the Lakers right now? Lebron out for the next two
to three weeks. How what are your expectations of them?
And then specifically, what are your expectations for Lucas now
that he's in shape? They say he lost like thirty pounds.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Yeah, well, he looked really good. You know, one assists
away from a triple double. I mean, it's very impressive.
He even managed to move his feet on defense a
little bit. It all looked good. But it's one game.
You can't get too high and too low. But the
question that no one's talking about, I don't know if
everybody saw it was the mannerisms and demeanor of one
(23:58):
Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
You know, we talked about absolutely and we had we
did a whole Yeah, we did a whole segment on.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That old no hole.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Okay, that was that was hard. That was horrible. What
are your I don't like it at all. And that's
you know, that's a and I don't want to use
the word of today narcissism, but that's so that's a
narcisistic personality.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
It's like you, you can't have any reaction for your teammates.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
For nobody, for nothing.
Speaker 11 (24:25):
They came back in the first half from like twelve downs,
great run, nothing, not a handshake, no good job, nothing.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Oh, it was insane.
Speaker 13 (24:34):
That that was.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
That was embarrassing. I'm sorry for you for all the
greatness that he has. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And it's unlike him. He's known he might be this,
he might be that.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
But one thing he is this guy who's you know,
with his teammates dapping him up, different handshakes, with everybody
rooting them on, being silly with it. Like that's if
all the things we can argue debate about, that's one
that normally know one would debate.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
He's usually engaged with the team.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
Yeah, but unfortunately he was not engaged yesterday and I
don't know if he was sending out a methods, you know,
the cryptic methods, but it happened, and you know, unfortunately,
that's the thing that really ruined a very good game.
I mean, the Warriors look great, but the Lakers they
have work to do. They're missing a bunch of pieces.
It's not just Lebron and Luca, they're missing pieces.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And also Olden.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
They had an issue last year the third quarter collapses, right,
and we saw that again. We would they give up
thirty five piece or something in the third quarter?
Speaker 5 (25:29):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Is that preparation? Is that coaching? Is that not being
prepared or ready for the second half adjustments?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Why?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Why have they keep doing that?
Speaker 13 (25:40):
Well?
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Because the players that they have, the mentality is what
it is. A lot of these guys they're very talented,
but they're not They're not mental giants, they're mental midgets.
Speaker 11 (25:51):
And so to me, that takes a toll on a
team when guys.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
Don't know how to sustain the effort, you know, and
what they craft is so again, it's because there's also
lack of talent. So that's sit in a nutshell.
Speaker 11 (26:08):
You gotta be talented as well that.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Olden polines our guests right now, former NBA veteran Fox
Sports Radio NBA analysts. What do you make Jake, I
don't know if you saw that. Maybe it's something we
can even bring up tomorrow, just kind of kind a
hold of it. Jalen Brown was on a podcast and
he talked about he doesn't think the NBA is the
most talented right now, and what he said was he
believes there are obviously incredibly talented players, but his point
was there's a bunch of young guys and it's filled
(26:33):
with potential versus actual players. And he was saying a
lot of the places in the world they got a
bunch of guys who know how to play the game.
Just your thoughts on that, because you just brought up
how lack of.
Speaker 11 (26:42):
Talent modest thing that man said yet and it's true.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
And you know again, I always like to use this analogy.
Speaker 11 (26:53):
They say that they the most talented.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
And everything else, But how come no one's been able
to replicate anything a guy like doctor j or George
Gervin did back in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I asked that question with magic with with with sneakers,
with no archers in them.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
With sneakers with no arches, and I mean you were
better off playing barefoot, definitely.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I don't know how guys played in those uh the
con Yeah, like the Chuck Taylors and all.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Have you ever worn them?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You can't even walk around old and just like sporting
notes without your feet hurting.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
Trust me, I played in them things. I know I would.
Speaker 11 (27:29):
You couldn't pay me to.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Walk in Chuck Taylors in my everyday life.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
The only thing with anything worse than a big ball
of brands. But that's another star.
Speaker 11 (27:39):
But yeah, so again they're talented, but they're not really
they physically.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Gifted because of the generation that they're in, you know,
they have access to.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
More stuff and also the style of play, as you know,
it's a lot less physical right, and everything's a foul.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You can't touch anybody. I mean, it's a different game.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
Let me say this with you guys. Okay, the NBA
collective bargain through collective bargainings, decided that you can only
practice for three hours, yeah, right, period, doing training camp
or doing whenever. Three hours. We used to do three
hour sessions. That wasn't even including film and.
Speaker 11 (28:19):
All that stuff.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
So you reduce the load, but yet you have load
management none to reduce the wear and tear, but you
have more injuries.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Right, the load management hasn't helped anything like there's been
no bad from it.
Speaker 11 (28:38):
They claimed they're the better athlete.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
All right, let me ask you about the Denver Nuggets.
And we know they took okay see, the seven games
last year. They made some improvements in the off season
with some movement and trades.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Where do you like what they've.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Done and are they they in the way of okay see,
maybe trying to repeat as NBA champs.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
Listen, I saw something last night that baffled me. Kevin
Durant dropped the ball twice, you know, as far as
what they were looking for.
Speaker 11 (29:12):
So, okay see, has.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Some things working. And of course, you know, granted jub
Jaylen Williams was out, so I got to give him
a pass somewhat in regards to that. But okay see,
the targets fully on their back right now. But the
Devin Nuggets are the team and my personal opinion in
the West that can upend them, because bottom line is,
(29:34):
there's no Listen, I watched the series last year. You
can try and claim that Alex Caruso is a great
defender and all that stop it. There's no way on
God's being or he can legally defend Nicola, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Fouling him every other every other minute. I'm one hundred.
I should have, man, I should have dominated down in
the payment. They allowed him to beat up the joker
they did. Y'all acting like a joke right now, I'm sorry,
go ahead on all right? Let me ask you in
the East? Uh you know?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I mean obviously you got the major injuries, Halliburton and
of course Boston h Tatum with Tatum, who do you
like in the East? Is this the year the Knicks
finally making and breakthrough?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Or has gotta be right? Or is it Cleveland?
Speaker 11 (30:27):
I like the Next Way better than I like Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
Okay, I like this Way better than I like Cleveland.
I think they have the better team. The Knicks are solid,
you know, the Knicks fall praise is something, you know,
like the little the injuries that happened at the wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Time, you know.
Speaker 11 (30:43):
And I think Mike Brown, with his easy attitude, I
think this guy be a.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Good coach, though Olden because I would have hired Charlie Brown.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
I'm Mike Brown is a good coach for the first
year or two Okay, okay, So whatever, y'all gotta get better,
get it right now, because after that he weighs on you.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Because every time it doesn't usually work out of the
Long East stage.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Because we thought he was making a move with Sacramento.
They should have that team should have been right on
the right.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
For them to beat the Warriors in the playoff series, right,
they were right there, and they couldn't get there.
Speaker 8 (31:23):
But that's why I say one or two years, that's
that's when you get Mike. That's when you get the
best of Mike Brown. And then after a while it
starts tearing at your skin.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Well, shoot, he's in the wrong place for that in
New York. Shoot, they ain't gonna be playing that.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Hey, if they can get rid of Thipodeau after what
he did last here, they won't. They'll be quick to
give it a mic, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Hey, old man, we appreciate it as always, brother, Thank you,
my man.
Speaker 11 (31:47):
All right, y'all take care
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Speaker 1 (02:27):
So a lot to get to.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, I was gonna say your pick right now, you know,
heading into the fourth quarter, Cleveland down one to the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
This game has been weird.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It's been up down, fifteen down, eighteen down, and then
this one is told.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You because I told you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I took Charlotte minus six five and a half six yeah,
five and a half. Right, they're blowing out Brooklyn looking
all right?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Right now, That's why I told you hang on to
your Cleveland one. A're still in this thing.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, hopefully they'll hold up, but they got so many injuries.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
We'll see one take that uh that won't go away,
holding up the take.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
That's driving me, Rob G crazy because everybody's texting us.
Who else is getting it? Elijah as well? Elijah's getting
it as well? Who Elijah? People are texting calling DM
and me people I told you yesterday. People I don't
even know how they got my number their relatives or
giving out numbers to their parents.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Who's been a fan? I've been following you for years,
listening but.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Then listening it and now here in Yo Shenanigans in
craziness with Otani your o tani take.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now you got a website publishing it and everything. Rob G,
you getting the hate too.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
It's gotten to a point now where it's not even
it's gone past to you know, come get your man's
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh can't believe Rob's saying that now?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Your boy now is I can't believe yo, ways say
that on the show like I'm the one who said it,
Like I didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
That's when people had me they were thinking about calling
link like the HR on me. They're like, this is
the fireball offens that you all would say this. I said,
hold up, I ain't say that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You want to you too?
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Oh oh yes.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
At my other employee ment of the Dodgers, somebody came
up to me and was like, don't you work with
Rob Parker?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And I said, I do, Actually, I know that stutter.
I know that stutter.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
I do yeah, And then like did you see what
he said about Atoni?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And I was like, uh yeah. I was like, Rob's tripping.
He's a cuckoo bird. I think I called you a
cuckoo bird. This is what I said.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I literally have a copy and paste response. Now he's
just like, man, Rob crazy, what you expect?
Speaker 8 (04:24):
Ha ha.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Copy paste.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm keeping pace with the Dodgers, right, I don't know
him that well.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I know, yeah, I don't know what they gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I see him down the hall. Yeah, next time I
see him and be like, I'm like, that's all.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
It's gonna be real funny the next time. MLB bro
wants a credential at Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Right, the only thing that works is that, Like I'll
be at the World Series here in l A.
Speaker 9 (04:50):
So you think you got to go through the national
point Okay, now I'm about to say they don't run
the local Yeah, next season, next spring, regular season Dodger
games for Rob Park All, Tony's English is gonna be perfect.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It's gonna be like not him, not perfect, be perfect.
He's not him. No, But speaking of that, uh, a
great one of the world's greatest athletes of all time,
who played Prime, who played in World serious and uh
and the NFL obviously coach Prime. He asked they asked
him about is this they's feet and just his thoughts
(05:23):
on baseball.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Here's what we had to say.
Speaker 10 (05:25):
He went through six innings, struck out ten, and then
hit three home runs in.
Speaker 11 (05:29):
The same game.
Speaker 12 (05:29):
Nicholas Man, he did what six.
Speaker 10 (05:32):
Innings, struck out ten and then went three for three
at the plate and hit three home runs.
Speaker 12 (05:37):
Hand him the MVP doing the game.
Speaker 10 (05:40):
I was going to ask you if you think that's
the best individual performance. Maybe not, but for a single
game in sports history.
Speaker 12 (05:48):
Yeah, because he's doing something that's unfathomable. I'm not gonna
say sports history because I don't. I can't recant everything
that is transparent. I hope he opens the door for
others because there's many more pitchers, many picking up more.
That's don sounds great, many pitchers that can do both,
but they're never allowed to do so because they put
him in a pocket and say you just need to
(06:09):
do that. So hopefully he opened the doors for others.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
See now what I loved about Dion.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He didn't just buy into the hype as the greatest
performance ever. Dion was measured. I don't know all of
to be able to say it's the greatest feed ever.
Thank you, because I want all you Dodger homers, okay
and o Tani lovers to first look up Rick Wise
(06:34):
from the Philadelphia Phillies in nineteen seventy one before we
get to the bigger topic.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
And look at what Rick Wise? Did? You know? What
he did? What did he do?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
He pitched a no hitter, one walk away from a
perfect game and hit two home runs in the game
in nineteen seventy one for the Philadelphia Phillies.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You hear me, he pitched a no hitter, not sixteen
ing oh o' jenny, pitch sixth inning. It's unbelievable. I
can't believe it. Pitch six inning and he hit three
old runs. Rick Wise did that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I gave you another example, Bob Gibson in nineteen sixty seven,
Game seven.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Of the World Series.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
He pitched a complete game, ten strikeouts, this is Game
seven to win all the marbles, and hit a home
running that game.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So don't give me that.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Nobody who ever pitched also didn't hit a home run,
because it has happened before.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I'm not trying to pooh pooh that right time.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
You have Raisin brand, you got meta mucu, you got
everything going on that right.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Because I sack more than anything special, I don't know.
People are going crazy, Yeah, they are going crazy.
Speaker 11 (07:46):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
We argued about that enough. We've gone viral. Enough about that.
I like the second portion of what Coach Prime was
talking about. Let me coach Prime Baby. He brought up
an interesting conversation to me, what old Tani is doing. Obviously, Gray,
it's a store we're talking about. It's viral, all those
kind of things. But I do think something we may
(08:06):
now see, which is why the other day when we were
talking about whatever happened Again, I said no. Then I said,
actually wait. The reason why I said wait, Coach Prime
alluded to what he's doing is opening up the door
for a six, seven, eight, nine, ten year old right
now who all their life have been told at a
certain point, well, you gotta specialize.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You're only gonna be a picture. You gotta pick what
you gotta do.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
You gotta pick.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You can only hit, you can only pitch. Nobody else
is ever, nobody does this like this.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You can do.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
You can be a picture who happens to be a
decent bat, you know what I mean, but not an
actual hitter. And what he's doing is opening up what
we're gonna see because the only person rob we are
the ones who actually limit what athletes can do.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
What do we say? For years?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
First off, we said black guys couldn't be a quarterback.
They're not smart enough, they're not this enough.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That was a literal thing. For those of you too
young to know that. Check the history.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Black quarterbacks couldn't exist because they're not smart enough, they
don't have the mental capacity about well, not the athletes
we will never know who might have been the greatest
quarterbacks of all time? Because they happen to be a
black quarterback and they led their college team to national championship.
Lead the national championship. You gotta go be a dB,
gotta be a running back, Go be a safety, or
go go Charlie Ward, go to the NBA.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And it ain't even that long ago. Don't forget that.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Under that, Bill Polian, who's a Hall of Fame general
manager from the Colts, talked about Lamar needing to be
a receive, a wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Go try to go get some reps as aiso. I
think about that. That's real and that was what you
know eight seven eight years right. So I bring that
up to say, we limit the possibilities of athletes with
our own brains and our own limitations. Right, Black quarterbacks
could have been dominating for years. Quarterbacks we don't don't run.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
That's bad. It means you don't see anything in the pocket.
You're being scared, you're running.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
That stupid Now, Jared guff is the last stand still
statue quarterback. And I'm serious. Every team has a quarterback
who can run, who's mobile. That's the norm now twenty five,
thirty five, forty years. No, because don't that's bad I
means you're not seeing thing. There's Frank targetin, they're Steve Young,
there's a handful.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
But they were the anomalies. So I'm bringing this up
to say.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
We might start to see maybe they don't go six, seven,
eight innings, but where you can see guys who are
great hitters getting three thirty home runs, you know, and
bat and two eighty whatever may be for them, but
they also can get you three innies. They can be
a mid reliever, you know, they can come in, give
you two innings, three innings, four innings. Maybe they can
start every now and again when you need them. We
might just start to see this happen more often, more frequently.
(10:30):
And that's the remarkable thing about what shoe hey old
Tany is doing. It opens up the floodgates of possibilities. Hey,
big man, it's okay to to shoot threes. We've gone
too far now. But hey, Bill Lambier, you're big man,
power forward, tough, elbowing people, fighting people. You're thinking of
you as big and strong and tough. Bill Ambier was
out there stretch forward, knocking down threes. Now it's common
to see winby seven foot twelve shooting threes. So my
(10:52):
point is this might usher in something where we didn't
think we'd see this. Twenty five years from now, it
might be normal to see kids who pitch and hit
and maybe not big time starters all the time, but
we might see it now.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think there's a chance. Not everybody, you gotta.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Go, you gotta be really special, because they're just everybody's
not going to be pitching and hitting and and doing that.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's gotta be it.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But there's there's more of a chance now because it
was such a long time between Babe Ruth and o'tani,
I mean, and that's really when you start to look
at and we talked about when I brought up rick Wise,
there were good hitting pitchers who could do could go
out home runs, you know what I mean, and stuff
like that. They didn't play every day or or the team.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Bart Alone bart Alone, right, Oh yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Finally who finally hit a home run and never hit
a home run, played all those years in the big
league and then finally hit one.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And they went crazy when he finally hit one. He
was out there, big belly, Jerry Curry. But they could pitch. Yeah, listen,
you're good at something, do it, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'm just saying, yeah, I don't think it's gonna be
a floodgate.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
It's gonna be. But but the idea that somebody is
of that ILK and has that great of an arm
and can hit that.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Kind of and especially now that we have the DH
in both leagues, remember that before it wasn't like that
because pitchers had to hit, so there was no spot
for a guy really to be a DH. And now
Otani can DH and pitch and still be you know,
and then when he pitches, he's in his DH spot,
So it makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 11 (12:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Now, Rob, just a quick question for you.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I know it's kind of apples to oranges, but obviously
Otani has been, you know, a unicorner. You guys say
that he can do both at such a high level.
And the question was, are we going to see the
next wave of athletes who are two ways stars? Well,
we already have one right now in football in Travis Hunter.
And I know it's early, but the early returns are
it's not going well as a two way star, do
(12:56):
you see. I know it's baseball and football, but the
fact that we have one guy doing it great, and
there have been others you know, you know, Chris Gamble
and Charles Woodson was okay, you know in college, didn't
really do in the NFL. Like, are you gonna see
players where they're like, no, no, no, Tani's different. No
one else can do what he's doing. That's why we're
(13:16):
not gonna allow you to do it, because they're trying
to do it over here and it's not working.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, I think that hurts a little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
If Travis Hunter, if they finally decide, okay, you got
to do this, you're not really good at the other one.
We're not. We want you to really concentrate. I think
it's gonna be hard anyway. And I don't think every
team is working on guys in the minor leagues. You know,
baseball different. They got to work on the minor leagues
in order to get up there. And I don't think
they're like, oh, yeah, you got to have a superior
(13:43):
arm and then be able to hit like that. Not
you're a slap hitter or you know what I mean,
you're just like this guy hits fifty home runs a year.
That's a guy's bat. I'm willing to allow to pitch
and do it or not because of that. I think
the difference will be what's asked. If Travis Hunter is
(14:04):
to be doing two things in the same game, Otani
gets five days away.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Sometimes, as you know, they didn't even have it. Sometime
he might skip a couple of what would have been
a normal rotation. We'll we'll get him in a couple weeks.
So that is able to do that, Yeah, seven eight days,
nine days since whereas Travis Hunter in his mind, you know,
I'm gonna play forty to fifty snaps on offense, forty
fifty on defense, and that can wear you out, that
can confuse you can use too much. That's why it'll
(14:30):
be more more difficult what Travis doing in the sense
of trying to do all both things in the same
game on the same day. All right, eight seven, seven
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O Tani being the two way star, one of the
greatest of all time. Doing that open up the floodgates
just starting having young folks, kids say oh, I can't
(16:36):
pitch and be a great hitter? Or is he just
an anomaly? Will we see more of an eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. I think he's gonna open
it up for about fifteen years from now, the young kids, now,
we'll just start to see a handful more.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
What say you want to hear from you?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Shan in Sacramento. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Sean?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, my uncle rub another mother cousin, kill me my
brothers by the board with them, I see real quick, man.
Speaker 11 (17:03):
I don't know what they replace your leave with.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
Whatever medication you've been on, you have been absolutely wild
and I'm not gonna get on you for the old
Tony take. But like Rob G and I were talking about, man,
if it's going to be a great two way player,
it's not going to be an American player. We're way
too specialized out here.
Speaker 8 (17:20):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I agree, Sean, I agree, just like Rob G twelve.
Speaker 11 (17:25):
Year old nephew.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
As long as as soon as they find out you're
great at baseball, basketball, soccer, even they're putting you in
travel ball, they're putting you in with the AAU ball.
They're doing everything they can to maximize your potential at
such a young age. By the time you get to
the pros, your legs are shot, your army shot. That's
why we don't see a lot of two way players
in any sport from the Americas.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Not Deshaun.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Great point, and not to mention the craziest part about
this is that all yet, all the guys will say
the greats. Michael Jordan, what was he known for us?
Playing baseball? Lebron James and football, Kobe played soccer. You
have so many guys who you'll play the million different sports.
Alan Iverson he didn't even really want to play basketball
because he's a football player.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Randy Moss played center field.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Ran was a sprinter, played basketball, was mister basketball West
Virginia and mister football like and we didn't even have
to go that far back.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Kyler Murray was drafted in the first round of the
NFL and the first round of Major League Baseball, the
first player ever in the history of sports jamis forty
years ago.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
It's the weirdest thing now that you feel like you
have to specialize at eight years old. You know how
any Donovan Mitchell who's a playing right now the calves
and knicks. He was a great pitcher of a great
baseball But what.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Does it say about the culture of American youth sports
when we all know a lot of former and current
professional athletes. To a man, everyone I've ever talked to
has said, play as many sports as possible.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Ye, but you're not.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
The ones who are telling you to focus. Are the
guys who never made it and they say, hey, age seven,
I need you to focus and lock me in out
on the basketball.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And it's bad, rob G. And it's bad because because
it is.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
These AAU coaches are coaching business of trains and they
want to but they want your parents to pay money
for the trainers. Shot coaches all this stuff, and then
you want you to be involved all year round, not.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Just during the sea one hundred percent. If you don't
have a trainer. Listen, I have very young kids. It's
crazy where this is going right now. If you're not
three already like soccer's gonna be it. You already got soccer.
She's got a personal coach. And we go on Tuesday, Wednesday,
we do this, and we do this, and you know
what happens. All these kids are burnt out. They're mentally
you know, I'm draining. We hear more than ever they're
(19:34):
they're mentally I lost. I don't know who I am
outside from this. Let these kids play and they'll eventually
pick what they like and find their thing and want
to do it. But the idea that they have to
do it from five years old. And you want to know,
last point, I know, we got another call.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You want to know why?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Look at all these top players that came out in
the NBA. Kyrie Irving hurt all the time, Lamar LaMelo ball,
lines of ball hurt all the time, Blake Griffin hurt
all the time, Zion Williamson hurt all the time. Ben
Simmons hurt all the time. I could go down the
list of these John Moran hurt all the time, all
these big time stars that come in the NBA. I
(20:09):
really started to watch. It's because they just hooped. LaMelo
Ball been playing basketball every single day of his license.
He was five how many games? Brothers playing it?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Take it easy and those bad sneakers didn't help. Yeah,
that didn't help it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm just saying, Uh, Marshall from Duluth. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Liver Radio. What's up Marshall?
Speaker 13 (20:28):
Well, guys, I do want to say quickly on that
last subject. You kind of hit it on the end there,
But I was gonna say, I feel like since they
don't do other sports, they don't train the muscles in
their body. Yeah, it's not just I'm overworking it like
they're playing all the time. But when you sprint, then
you train new muscles, and when you play football you
(20:50):
trained new muscles.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
You know some of that.
Speaker 13 (20:52):
But back to the first question, I was gonna say,
I think we'll see more people try it because of
the Tani experience. But the thing is, if we look
at the past prime time, why was he primetime? He
played baseball. He played offense, he played depense. I played
a ton of offense, but he did do that right.
But the thing is, I think the main thing is
(21:12):
kind of you're just saying with Au. A lot of
it has to do with money. Somebody's paying a picture,
you know, all this money. He's not gonna want him to,
you know, sprain an ankle trying to hit a double play.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
And then and in the day, Marshall, the best player
on the team, played shortstop every game except the day
that he pitched.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Like you played shortstop the best player, or you played
center field, Yeah, like you, You didn't just pitch.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And that's why these guys have rotator caff Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You're doing elected Tommy John surgery. That means we're choosing
to cut my kid's arm open. And they're thirteen fourteen
fifteen to get it down now, because it'll be better
if we get it down now, because then you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Don't know if he's Jesus going, bro, what are we
doing crazy?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Now?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I gotta tore up surgical repairs were at elbow. Yeah,
it's a lot going on right now, all right. Olden Polonies,
former NBA veteran We're gonna talk some hoops with him
in just a minute, right now, Monte Milanio is getting
you sett on's trending, Monci.
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Speaker 1 (22:22):
Thank you, monciv a great night. Appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Somebody does not want to win this game. This calves
next game. I know it's back and forth up now, yeah,
all right, appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
All right.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
It is the OKAPA, Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a
worship Wednesday. It's good to have the NBA back as well.
You got a good win, as Manti was saying, one fifteen,
one fifteen, two thirty less in this Miami Heat and
Orlando Magic game. And we got some more games coming
up too, So it's feeling good out the NBA back.
Just a great time to be a sports fan. We're
getting ready to talk to olden polonies speaking of in
(22:53):
the NBA in just a moment. Last night, of course,
you had the Lakers host of the Golden State Warriors
ended up being a win for the Warriors. Luca looked great.
A lot of people feeling like it could be Lucas
MVP season. We can ask that to Olden Polinices as well,
former NBA veteran Fox Sports Radio NBA analysts.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh that man, what's up?
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
How you doing going good? Man Stown? And we can
start right there. What I was just saying.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
The Warriors beat the Lakers by ten, but Luca, Luca
looked great. The rest of the Lakers look ay, but
Luca was great. What are you making this season for
the Lakers right now? Lebron out for the next two
to three weeks. How what are your expectations of them?
And then specifically, what are your expectations for Lucas now
that he's in shape? They say he lost like thirty pounds.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Yeah, well, he looked really good. You know, one assists
away from a triple double. I mean, it's very impressive.
He even managed to move his feet on defense a
little bit. It all looked good. But it's one game.
You can't get too high and too low. But the
question that no one's talking about, I don't know if
everybody saw it was the mannerisms and demeanor of one
(23:58):
Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
You know, we talked about absolutely and we had we
did a whole Yeah, we did a whole segment on.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That old no hole.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Okay, that was that was hard. That was horrible. What
are your I don't like it at all. And that's
you know, that's a and I don't want to use
the word of today narcissism, but that's so that's a
narcisistic personality.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
It's like you, you can't have any reaction for your teammates.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
For nobody, for nothing.
Speaker 11 (24:25):
They came back in the first half from like twelve downs,
great run, nothing, not a handshake, no good job, nothing.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Oh, it was insane.
Speaker 13 (24:34):
That that was.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
That was embarrassing. I'm sorry for you for all the
greatness that he has. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And it's unlike him. He's known he might be this,
he might be that.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
But one thing he is this guy who's you know,
with his teammates dapping him up, different handshakes, with everybody
rooting them on, being silly with it. Like that's if
all the things we can argue debate about, that's one
that normally know one would debate.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
He's usually engaged with the team.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
Yeah, but unfortunately he was not engaged yesterday and I
don't know if he was sending out a methods, you know,
the cryptic methods, but it happened, and you know, unfortunately,
that's the thing that really ruined a very good game.
I mean, the Warriors look great, but the Lakers they
have work to do. They're missing a bunch of pieces.
It's not just Lebron and Luca, they're missing pieces.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And also Olden.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
They had an issue last year the third quarter collapses, right,
and we saw that again. We would they give up
thirty five piece or something in the third quarter?
Speaker 5 (25:29):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Is that preparation? Is that coaching? Is that not being
prepared or ready for the second half adjustments?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Why?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Why have they keep doing that?
Speaker 13 (25:40):
Well?
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Because the players that they have, the mentality is what
it is. A lot of these guys they're very talented,
but they're not They're not mental giants, they're mental midgets.
Speaker 11 (25:51):
And so to me, that takes a toll on a
team when guys.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
Don't know how to sustain the effort, you know, and
what they craft is so again, it's because there's also
lack of talent. So that's sit in a nutshell.
Speaker 11 (26:08):
You gotta be talented as well that.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Olden polines our guests right now, former NBA veteran Fox
Sports Radio NBA analysts. What do you make Jake, I
don't know if you saw that. Maybe it's something we
can even bring up tomorrow, just kind of kind a
hold of it. Jalen Brown was on a podcast and
he talked about he doesn't think the NBA is the
most talented right now, and what he said was he
believes there are obviously incredibly talented players, but his point
was there's a bunch of young guys and it's filled
(26:33):
with potential versus actual players. And he was saying a
lot of the places in the world they got a
bunch of guys who know how to play the game.
Just your thoughts on that, because you just brought up
how lack of.
Speaker 11 (26:42):
Talent modest thing that man said yet and it's true.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
And you know again, I always like to use this analogy.
Speaker 11 (26:53):
They say that they the most talented.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
And everything else, But how come no one's been able
to replicate anything a guy like doctor j or George
Gervin did back in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I asked that question with magic with with with sneakers,
with no archers in them.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
With sneakers with no arches, and I mean you were
better off playing barefoot, definitely.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I don't know how guys played in those uh the
con Yeah, like the Chuck Taylors and all.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Have you ever worn them?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You can't even walk around old and just like sporting
notes without your feet hurting.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
Trust me, I played in them things. I know I would.
Speaker 11 (27:29):
You couldn't pay me to.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Walk in Chuck Taylors in my everyday life.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
The only thing with anything worse than a big ball
of brands. But that's another star.
Speaker 11 (27:39):
But yeah, so again they're talented, but they're not really
they physically.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Gifted because of the generation that they're in, you know,
they have access to.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
More stuff and also the style of play, as you know,
it's a lot less physical right, and everything's a foul.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You can't touch anybody. I mean, it's a different game.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
Let me say this with you guys. Okay, the NBA
collective bargain through collective bargainings, decided that you can only
practice for three hours, yeah, right, period, doing training camp
or doing whenever. Three hours. We used to do three
hour sessions. That wasn't even including film and.
Speaker 11 (28:19):
All that stuff.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
So you reduce the load, but yet you have load
management none to reduce the wear and tear, but you
have more injuries.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Right, the load management hasn't helped anything like there's been
no bad from it.
Speaker 11 (28:38):
They claimed they're the better athlete.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
All right, let me ask you about the Denver Nuggets.
And we know they took okay see, the seven games
last year. They made some improvements in the off season
with some movement and trades.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Where do you like what they've.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Done and are they they in the way of okay see,
maybe trying to repeat as NBA champs.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
Listen, I saw something last night that baffled me. Kevin
Durant dropped the ball twice, you know, as far as
what they were looking for.
Speaker 11 (29:12):
So, okay see, has.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Some things working. And of course, you know, granted jub
Jaylen Williams was out, so I got to give him
a pass somewhat in regards to that. But okay see,
the targets fully on their back right now. But the
Devin Nuggets are the team and my personal opinion in
the West that can upend them, because bottom line is,
(29:34):
there's no Listen, I watched the series last year. You
can try and claim that Alex Caruso is a great
defender and all that stop it. There's no way on
God's being or he can legally defend Nicola, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Fouling him every other every other minute. I'm one hundred.
I should have, man, I should have dominated down in
the payment. They allowed him to beat up the joker
they did. Y'all acting like a joke right now, I'm sorry,
go ahead on all right? Let me ask you in
the East? Uh you know?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I mean obviously you got the major injuries, Halliburton and
of course Boston h Tatum with Tatum, who do you
like in the East? Is this the year the Knicks
finally making and breakthrough?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Or has gotta be right? Or is it Cleveland?
Speaker 11 (30:27):
I like the Next Way better than I like Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
Okay, I like this Way better than I like Cleveland.
I think they have the better team. The Knicks are solid,
you know, the Knicks fall praise is something, you know,
like the little the injuries that happened at the wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Time, you know.
Speaker 11 (30:43):
And I think Mike Brown, with his easy attitude, I
think this guy be a.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Good coach, though Olden because I would have hired Charlie Brown.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
I'm Mike Brown is a good coach for the first
year or two Okay, okay, So whatever, y'all gotta get better,
get it right now, because after that he weighs on you.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Because every time it doesn't usually work out of the
Long East stage.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Because we thought he was making a move with Sacramento.
They should have that team should have been right on
the right.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
For them to beat the Warriors in the playoff series, right,
they were right there, and they couldn't get there.
Speaker 8 (31:23):
But that's why I say one or two years, that's
that's when you get Mike. That's when you get the
best of Mike Brown. And then after a while it
starts tearing at your skin.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Well, shoot, he's in the wrong place for that in
New York. Shoot, they ain't gonna be playing that.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Hey, if they can get rid of Thipodeau after what
he did last here, they won't. They'll be quick to
give it a mic, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Hey, old man, we appreciate it as always, brother, Thank you,
my man.
Speaker 11 (31:47):
All right, y'all take care
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