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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the berkshears to the sound from wherever you live
in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give
us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop
on major League Baseball. Now, here's Baseball Hall of Fame
voter number fifty seven, Rob Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Come on, I've been covering Major League baseball for almost
forty years now, in New York, in Cincinnati, in Detroit,
in LA.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I love this game. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Coming up on a very special vacation edition of Inside
the Parker, we'll talk with former major league manager Bo Porter,
of course, the third base coach of the Los Angeles Angels,
will talk about his journey as a manager and hopes
and aspirations to once again manage again. Also longtime Angels
(01:03):
broadcaster Mark Goobazov, of course, who was the major league pitcher,
who talks about his broadcasting career, not his pitching career.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So we'll do that and much more.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Enjoy the interviews as I'm on vacation this week, but
Inside the Parker rolls on.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Here comes the big interviews.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Listen and learn.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It's so good. Now let's welcome into the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Los Angeles Angels third base coach Bouport of Bowl, Thanks
for joining.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Us, Rob is always a pleasure to be with you.
Thank you, my man, and the Angels. This has been
a pretty good season.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Not exactly where you guys want to be, but there
have been some highlights this year, going on the road,
beating some really good teams. Hovering around five hundred. Just
talk about the Angels season, Well, it's been a huge
step forward.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
When you look at the fact that you know we're
headed to or the stretch run of the season and
the goal is to you know, one, get to five
hundred and then you never know what could happen, but
to play meaningful games in September. And when we look
at the goal from this young roster and the young
core that has come together, it's pretty exciting.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But when I look at you as a third base coach,
I can't help but think you should be back in
the dugout. Okay, you manage the Astros in twenty thirteen
and twenty fourteen, and you know, if you've done all
kinds of other jobs in baseball, commissioner's offense, broadcast and
work at MLB Network. We work together, but I still
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believe you deserve another shot and the dugout, and that's.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Something you would be open to. I'm definitely open to it.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I think coming back on the field the last two years,
one of the things that I realize is that I needed.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
To reset, you know, coaching and being.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
A part of the day to day as it relates
to there's no substitute for the impact that you can
have on players.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
As much as I enjoy all the other jobs in which.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I had, there is a deep underlying passion to impact
players and help them reachton full potential, and I welcome
the opportunity to manage a game.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
How about how much is managing changed since you last manage?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You know, there's a lot more analytics.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The front office is a way more involved, you know,
with lineups and players and the way you handle pictures. God,
you know, picture complete game. It's almost unheard of stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
What have you seen and what have you learned? You
know about managing now going forward?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
I think when you look at managing basically baseball today,
it starts with collaboration, and that collaboration goes not just
to the front office, but also to your staff. With
the amount of information that is available to us today
being able to delegate as a manager to your coaching
staff and unders and in the responsibility that they would
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have for the dispersement of that information. When you look
at the dispersement of that information, that collaboration goes not
only from the manager and the coaching staff to the
front office, but eventually how that.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Information is communicated to the player.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
So I think communication is extremely important, but at the
end of the day, it's the ability to actually create
a championship coaching.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And this year we saw at the trade deadline there
are a lot of teams that still think they have
a shot to be in it, but there are also
a lot of teams that bailed and thought, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
The season's over or whatever. Kind of a weird baseball year.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Would you say that because a lot of teams aren't
out of it, but a lot of teams were really
out of it?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That makes sense?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, I think when you look at the extra wildcards
that we have in Major League Baseball now and six
teams making the playoffs, and if you're sitting on the
fringe of the possibility of making the playoffs, and you
making the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
And you have a good young core group, or you.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Have a team that you feel like, if we get
to five hundred or if we get in, we have
an opportunity to make a run. I think that is
the mindset that most organizations go into the.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Deadline thinking about if you feel like you look.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
At your roster and even if we get in, we
probably don't have a chance to make a deep run
with this roster. I think that factors into people's decisions.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Our guest there is both Porter, of course, third base
coach for the Los Angeles Angels.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Here on inside the Parker this year we talked about it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I think when the season started, everybody thought the Dodgers
would be the Beatles and there would just be a
rock concert around the country. It hasn't really been that.
Yankees have had their issues. These are the two teams
that made the World Series last year. It looks to
me like it's wide open.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Was that fair? I think it is.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
When you look at the number of competitive teams that
we have in baseball, you can get to toil and
it's all about who gets hot. And even when you
look at the playoffs structure and the number one and
number two seeds having to buy sometimes that actually it's
not good for those teams because.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They have to sit and wait. Baseball is an everyday thing,
am I right, It's not.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Like football where you're glad to take up eight or
ten days off.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yes, you have to sit and you have to wait,
which allows a wildcard team or a team that has
to play meaningful games.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Just to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
That has a lot of value as you head into
the postseason, and we've seen it in years past where
teams that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Have gotten hot.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
You know, the Texas Rangers winning as a wildcard, got
hot and they were able to win the World Series.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Because you remember they gave up the division.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You remember the last week of the season they were
winning the division, got it as a wild card, didn't
lose a road playoff game, which was incredible.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That was something wrong.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yes, when you look at just the structure of the playoffs,
it is advantageous for teams that get hot down stretch.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Last thing, you know, two of the best players and
again we talk about them all the.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Time, Aaron Judge was currently injured, is going to be
coming back soon? And show Hal Tahani are they clear
cut MVPs or no?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I mean the conversation to be had, well, I think
when you look at the American leader and taking nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Away from Aaron Jerdge, when.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
You look at the catcher in Seattle in the numbers
in which he's putting up from the catching position, and
I've always said this, when you look at the ability
to manage both sides of the game in the catching
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position and put up that type of offensive performance, it
has great value.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
There's no doubt. But here let me say that. Here
we are in August.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And to have a power hitter of Aaron Judge still
hitting three five, three fifty when the league averages two
forty two, you just don't see.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Average of power anymore. Does that count? Yes? I think
it counts.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
But I also think that when you look at the
catching position and what he's able to do for his
pitching staff, and if you take when you use the
word most valuable player, if you take that everyday catcher
away the impact that it's.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Gonna have on that team. Forget the offensive side of it.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
I'm talking about the Seattle Marian is their roster for
the conceivable. When you look at the rage the roster
was built, it was built on pitching and defense.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
He is the person that is back there managing the pictures.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Throughout each and every game, all thirteen pitchers that they're
total rubber. And then offensively, he's arguably the second best
offensive player in the league.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Behind Aaron Judge.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I just think it's it's a debate that we can
sit here in debate all day. It's gonna be fascinating
to see who ends up being the most valuable player,
but I think it's not clear cut as it was
in the year's past.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
With handing, Judge pretty much just ran away with him.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And last thing, let's get an update on Rom Washington.
Of course, h I just step step aside with a
health issue. But I'm hearing good thing that is recovery
is coming.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Looking the show up. You know, Washingt's doing much better.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
He's at home and he's going through physical therapy and
he's getting stronger each and every day. I talked to
him yesterday and he said that his strength is coming
back and he's feeling better that I think the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
For him is just missing coming to the ballpark.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
When you you know why Washington, he's one of those
baseball lifers that he wakes up every morning and his
desire is to come to the ballpark. And and be
around you know, the players and the staff, and so
we're looking forward to to one him getting healthy and getting.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Back here with us. All right there.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It is both Porter of course from the Los Angeles Angels,
the third base coach.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Both. Thank you so much for join us. Appreciate you. Yes,
a lot is always a pleasure to join you.
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Speaker 1 (12:11):
Here comes the big Interviews. Listen and learn.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
It's so good. Now let's welcome into the podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
He's a TV Now, let's welcome into the podcast. Color
Analyst for the Los Angeles Angels. Mark Gooba is off
from the fan Duel Sports Network, Mark, how.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Are you good? Man? Real good?
Speaker 7 (12:33):
It's always a fun day, It's Sunday and then you
know it's being around baseball is.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Always a freaking for me every day, no doubt. But
you had a tremendous career.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Of course, you're in the Kansas City Royals Hall of
fam You one a World Series All Star a couple
of times, and now you've been doing broadcasting as a
color analyst for the Angels for nineteen seasons. How much
do you enjoy broadcasting and still being around the game.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
The crazy thing is, somebody's asked me this the other day.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I said, it's just being part of something, you know, connected,
because I've been beating baseball since nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I'm bating myself a little bit.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
There, but I really, I mean, think about it, It's
all I ever wanted to do with my whole life.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
People as a.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Kid growing up like three older brothers who were playing
stickball back in Philly, and always wanted to be a
baseball player. My dad played minor league baseball for a
couple of seasons with the Chicago White Sox. Even though
he never really talked about a lot. It's the only
thing I ever wanted to do and be able to
be part of it as a player now as a
broadcast for all these years, it's as a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And how about the players today? Baseball has changed a lot.
You know, we had it was a great year. A
lot of great players were tired, Jeeter and David Ortin,
you know, like it was a whole arried bonds of
all moved on. And now we're seeing this influx of
a lot of good young players. I think baseball is
getting some of those guys back.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Yeah, I think now when you think about it, as
far as the pure athletes, I think the game is
the best level it's ever been in it. I mean
I got to play with arguably the greatest athlete ever
in Bo Jackson.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
For a number of years ago. That is destremendous.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I don't think people really realize, am I right, how
great of a player baseball player he was?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Because he was football and baseball. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
I mean, the thing is, nobody ever moved out of
their spot in the dugout, No one moved in their
seats in the stands when Bo Jackson was either at
the plate or in the fields. We saw this roadway
throw at held Reynolds at the plate, running up the
wall there in Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean, he did so many unbelievable things.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
And then to watch him on the sidelines play football
and watch as the players looked at him as if
he wasn't really like we were saying the same thing
on the baseball field, there was a pleasure to play
with him.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
How well, today all the talk, of course, is about
showhy and you as a pitcher, you know what it
takes to be a major league pitcher, pitch at that level.
And for this guy to do only what Babe Ruth
did in the twenties, what is that? I know what
He's been around for a while and he pitched here.
Obviously you've got to see him. Just your appreciation of
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what he's able to do.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm still in shock at how incredible he is.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
I mean, there's gonna go year we're gonna say he
was maybe the best baseball player is shoot the game
because of what he was.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Able to do hitching wise and hitting wise.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
And most people don't understand how difficult that is to
do that We all did in high school and some
guys did in college. This is the major day, and
you only do it two or three days a week.
He's doing a six seven days a week at the
highest level. He's I still go back to the double
header he had in Detroit when he was at the Angels.
He went out through it at ninety one, hit shut out
game one, so usually work. I mean as a picture,
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I can't even move that whole next day, let alone
that same day because that game two of the double
highter hits two home runs. I mean, it's just we
were looking like he's not a real human being.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
He is a unicorn. But I think the biggest thing with.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Him, every time somebody has to be was tired of
all he would say is I want to win. So
his focus and his work ethic and his driver or
something I've never seen before.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Our guess is Mark Google's a color analyst from the
Los Angeles Angels FanDuel Sports Network. How about dealing with players,
you were a player, they would the top when broadcasters
would come and ask you good bad or writers and different.
You know, and now you're on the other side. It's
not about ripping people or whatever, but sometimes you know
things don't go right, and you have to be a
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critical of point out stuff. How is that dealing with players?
And new players understand it? Especially coming from a guy
who actually.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Plays, I think it really for me.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
I started out watching with George Bradwidills, and he was
the Hall of Famer obviously, but after every game, good
or bad, he said, it was always easier to, you know,
I have a conversation after a win, but when you
did a bad game, whether he did something wrong or
a team, he was always ready there to answered questions.
So I learned that as a player. So now on
the broadcast side, I've always said I'm just gonna be
honest and that I've built such good relationships with all
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the players to understand that my job is to, you know,
explain what happened and good or bad. Sometimes it's not good,
but I don't go into some reason why a players
should have made a play.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I said, the play wasn't me. So I was able
to do that.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
So take all the players out over the years and
I'm doing like I said a long time, all my
relationships the players have still been strong because they understand
that's my job, and I mean, I'm supposed to say
why something happened, why it did happen, and the guys
understand that, and.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
They're always good about that.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
As a color analyst too, you know, I watch a
lot of games. I'm I'm meant to baseball like that,
games on every night in my house. Okay, But as
a color analyst, is it how important is it to
also have foreshadowing or telling people what to look for?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Mark?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And what I mean is you know a matchup is
a bad matchup when you might say I don't know
if this is the right guy for him, or or
if you're at third base, watch out because this guy's
prone to bounce one. Is that what you're looking to
try to do as a color analyst as well?
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yeah, I mean it's something I kind of pride myself
on and be able to be a first guest kind.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Of second guess. It's easy to say something happen right
after after I misplays the ball, Oh that was a
bad player. That's easy.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah, but I always still because it all starts with
preparation with my producer, directors and all our research people.
I go, this is why I think we keep an
eye on and I'm willing to, you know, be wrong too,
stick my neck out saying, Okay, he's going to throw
a change up right here, So you gonna be sitting
on a change up sometimes in the fastball, but most
times if you do the right preparation and all.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
That, you know, that's the one you have right now
to be able to do that. But I'm a big believer.
I read your body language.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I can see where the guy's gripped the bat too much,
or you see the pitcher out there, he's working too fast,
he's breathing too quickly. There's a chance for the opponent
to do something special against the picture when that happened.
So my job is not just to kind of win,
to go what a great swing? I'm always I always
taught this early on by Scott Ackerman, who was a
tremendous producer, obviously for his NFL morning shows where he
won zillions of Emmys and all that. He says, tell
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me something that, look, the viewer at home doesn't know
exactly right.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I mean, that's what you're trying to get to. And
as a viewer, I appreciate it. Yeah, I mean because
I can say, well that what a great swing.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
By David Ortiz, he had a home run, while before
he hits at home run, like this is what he
might be looking for, and this is why he hit
the home run, not just because the ball jumps off
his batans have lost it. All this stuff we kind
of all blend in there, but just to have an
idea what fans might be in line for before it happens.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Last thing. I know you're a baseball guy.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
But you love football and those Philadelphia Eagles, and you
know how football is. It's hard to repeat what a
great season they had last year. And I know as
a fan you hope that your team can win a game,
but you know how difficult it is.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
It is very, very difficult, really, what's going on with
my friend.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
It's always difficult, especially I already I've already been going
as a typical Philly guy who they have a tough schedule,
so I'm already prepping myself.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
But after they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
You know in seventeen eighteen, there they you know, they
just came out played well.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I went actually that game with Trouty.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
When they open up that thursday, I was looking around
make sure they won that we had an off there.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But this will we know this time around.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
But there's something about you know, Jalen is a tremendous leader,
Barkley because we get to wear.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Our jerseys on Wednesday when we're going to Detroit. By
the way, I got my barkety jers. Oh you got Judge,
you got ready to go it Jerfy.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
There's any Giant fans out there, they're gonna really appreciate
that one too.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
But they're gonna be battle tested.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
They made some great moves, they made some tough decisions
were you know, fan favorites.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
They're maybe getting a little bit longer.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
In their career that they're willing to move on, which
is always difficult to do, especially when you win a
super Bowl. But I expect them to be really good.
But I also expect that entire division, Washington's really good.
I think the Giants going to be better. And there's
a certain team down there in Texas at the Eagles
and Opening Days.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
So it's always fun when those two teams get together,
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
All Right, Mark Goobazov of course, from the Los Angeles
Angeles broadcast team from Fan Dual Sports Network.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
All Right, Mark, always thank him, appreciate it. We appreciate
it every time. Man, you're to men.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
In the words of New York TV legend the late
Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this time until
next time.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Rob Parker out.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
He can't, Davin.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
This could be an inside of Parker.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
See you next week, the same bat time, from same
Matt's station.
From the berkshears to the sound from wherever you live
in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give
us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop
on major League Baseball. Now, here's Baseball Hall of Fame
voter number fifty seven, Rob Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Come on, I've been covering Major League baseball for almost
forty years now, in New York, in Cincinnati, in Detroit,
in LA.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I love this game. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Coming up on a very special vacation edition of Inside
the Parker, we'll talk with former major league manager Bo Porter,
of course, the third base coach of the Los Angeles Angels,
will talk about his journey as a manager and hopes
and aspirations to once again manage again. Also longtime Angels
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broadcaster Mark Goobazov, of course, who was the major league pitcher,
who talks about his broadcasting career, not his pitching career.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So we'll do that and much more.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Enjoy the interviews as I'm on vacation this week, but
Inside the Parker rolls on.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Here comes the big interviews.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Listen and learn.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It's so good. Now let's welcome into the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Los Angeles Angels third base coach Bouport of Bowl, Thanks
for joining.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Us, Rob is always a pleasure to be with you.
Thank you, my man, and the Angels. This has been
a pretty good season.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Not exactly where you guys want to be, but there
have been some highlights this year, going on the road,
beating some really good teams. Hovering around five hundred. Just
talk about the Angels season, Well, it's been a huge
step forward.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
When you look at the fact that you know we're
headed to or the stretch run of the season and
the goal is to you know, one, get to five
hundred and then you never know what could happen, but
to play meaningful games in September. And when we look
at the goal from this young roster and the young
core that has come together, it's pretty exciting.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But when I look at you as a third base coach,
I can't help but think you should be back in
the dugout. Okay, you manage the Astros in twenty thirteen
and twenty fourteen, and you know, if you've done all
kinds of other jobs in baseball, commissioner's offense, broadcast and
work at MLB Network. We work together, but I still
(02:37):
believe you deserve another shot and the dugout, and that's.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Something you would be open to. I'm definitely open to it.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I think coming back on the field the last two years,
one of the things that I realize is that I needed.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
To reset, you know, coaching and being.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
A part of the day to day as it relates
to there's no substitute for the impact that you can
have on players.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
As much as I enjoy all the other jobs in which.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I had, there is a deep underlying passion to impact
players and help them reachton full potential, and I welcome
the opportunity to manage a game.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
How about how much is managing changed since you last manage?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You know, there's a lot more analytics.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The front office is a way more involved, you know,
with lineups and players and the way you handle pictures. God,
you know, picture complete game. It's almost unheard of stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
What have you seen and what have you learned? You
know about managing now going forward?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
I think when you look at managing basically baseball today,
it starts with collaboration, and that collaboration goes not just
to the front office, but also to your staff. With
the amount of information that is available to us today
being able to delegate as a manager to your coaching
staff and unders and in the responsibility that they would
(04:02):
have for the dispersement of that information. When you look
at the dispersement of that information, that collaboration goes not
only from the manager and the coaching staff to the
front office, but eventually how that.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Information is communicated to the player.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
So I think communication is extremely important, but at the
end of the day, it's the ability to actually create
a championship coaching.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And this year we saw at the trade deadline there
are a lot of teams that still think they have
a shot to be in it, but there are also
a lot of teams that bailed and thought, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
The season's over or whatever. Kind of a weird baseball year.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Would you say that because a lot of teams aren't
out of it, but a lot of teams were really
out of it?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That makes sense?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, I think when you look at the extra wildcards
that we have in Major League Baseball now and six
teams making the playoffs, and if you're sitting on the
fringe of the possibility of making the playoffs, and you
making the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
And you have a good young core group, or you.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Have a team that you feel like, if we get
to five hundred or if we get in, we have
an opportunity to make a run. I think that is
the mindset that most organizations go into the.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Deadline thinking about if you feel like you look.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
At your roster and even if we get in, we
probably don't have a chance to make a deep run
with this roster. I think that factors into people's decisions.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Our guest there is both Porter, of course, third base
coach for the Los Angeles Angels.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Here on inside the Parker this year we talked about it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I think when the season started, everybody thought the Dodgers
would be the Beatles and there would just be a
rock concert around the country. It hasn't really been that.
Yankees have had their issues. These are the two teams
that made the World Series last year. It looks to
me like it's wide open.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Was that fair? I think it is.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
When you look at the number of competitive teams that
we have in baseball, you can get to toil and
it's all about who gets hot. And even when you
look at the playoffs structure and the number one and
number two seeds having to buy sometimes that actually it's
not good for those teams because.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They have to sit and wait. Baseball is an everyday thing,
am I right, It's not.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Like football where you're glad to take up eight or
ten days off.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yes, you have to sit and you have to wait,
which allows a wildcard team or a team that has
to play meaningful games.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Just to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
That has a lot of value as you head into
the postseason, and we've seen it in years past where
teams that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Have gotten hot.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
You know, the Texas Rangers winning as a wildcard, got
hot and they were able to win the World Series.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Because you remember they gave up the division.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You remember the last week of the season they were
winning the division, got it as a wild card, didn't
lose a road playoff game, which was incredible.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That was something wrong.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yes, when you look at just the structure of the playoffs,
it is advantageous for teams that get hot down stretch.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Last thing, you know, two of the best players and
again we talk about them all the.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Time, Aaron Judge was currently injured, is going to be
coming back soon? And show Hal Tahani are they clear
cut MVPs or no?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I mean the conversation to be had, well, I think
when you look at the American leader and taking nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Away from Aaron Jerdge, when.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
You look at the catcher in Seattle in the numbers
in which he's putting up from the catching position, and
I've always said this, when you look at the ability
to manage both sides of the game in the catching
(07:46):
position and put up that type of offensive performance, it
has great value.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
There's no doubt. But here let me say that. Here
we are in August.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And to have a power hitter of Aaron Judge still
hitting three five, three fifty when the league averages two
forty two, you just don't see.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Average of power anymore. Does that count? Yes? I think
it counts.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
But I also think that when you look at the
catching position and what he's able to do for his
pitching staff, and if you take when you use the
word most valuable player, if you take that everyday catcher
away the impact that it's.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Gonna have on that team. Forget the offensive side of it.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
I'm talking about the Seattle Marian is their roster for
the conceivable. When you look at the rage the roster
was built, it was built on pitching and defense.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
He is the person that is back there managing the pictures.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Throughout each and every game, all thirteen pitchers that they're
total rubber. And then offensively, he's arguably the second best
offensive player in the league.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Behind Aaron Judge.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I just think it's it's a debate that we can
sit here in debate all day. It's gonna be fascinating
to see who ends up being the most valuable player,
but I think it's not clear cut as it was
in the year's past.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
With handing, Judge pretty much just ran away with him.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And last thing, let's get an update on Rom Washington.
Of course, h I just step step aside with a
health issue. But I'm hearing good thing that is recovery
is coming.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Looking the show up. You know, Washingt's doing much better.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
He's at home and he's going through physical therapy and
he's getting stronger each and every day. I talked to
him yesterday and he said that his strength is coming
back and he's feeling better that I think the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
For him is just missing coming to the ballpark.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
When you you know why Washington, he's one of those
baseball lifers that he wakes up every morning and his
desire is to come to the ballpark. And and be
around you know, the players and the staff, and so
we're looking forward to to one him getting healthy and getting.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Back here with us. All right there.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It is both Porter of course from the Los Angeles Angels,
the third base coach.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Both. Thank you so much for join us. Appreciate you. Yes,
a lot is always a pleasure to join you.
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Speaker 1 (12:11):
Here comes the big Interviews. Listen and learn.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
It's so good. Now let's welcome into the podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
He's a TV Now, let's welcome into the podcast. Color
Analyst for the Los Angeles Angels. Mark Gooba is off
from the fan Duel Sports Network, Mark, how.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Are you good? Man? Real good?
Speaker 7 (12:33):
It's always a fun day, It's Sunday and then you
know it's being around baseball is.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Always a freaking for me every day, no doubt. But
you had a tremendous career.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Of course, you're in the Kansas City Royals Hall of
fam You one a World Series All Star a couple
of times, and now you've been doing broadcasting as a
color analyst for the Angels for nineteen seasons. How much
do you enjoy broadcasting and still being around the game.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
The crazy thing is, somebody's asked me this the other day.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I said, it's just being part of something, you know, connected,
because I've been beating baseball since nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I'm bating myself a little bit.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
There, but I really, I mean, think about it, It's
all I ever wanted to do with my whole life.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
People as a.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Kid growing up like three older brothers who were playing
stickball back in Philly, and always wanted to be a
baseball player. My dad played minor league baseball for a
couple of seasons with the Chicago White Sox. Even though
he never really talked about a lot. It's the only
thing I ever wanted to do and be able to
be part of it as a player now as a
broadcast for all these years, it's as a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And how about the players today? Baseball has changed a lot.
You know, we had it was a great year. A
lot of great players were tired, Jeeter and David Ortin,
you know, like it was a whole arried bonds of
all moved on. And now we're seeing this influx of
a lot of good young players. I think baseball is
getting some of those guys back.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Yeah, I think now when you think about it, as
far as the pure athletes, I think the game is
the best level it's ever been in it. I mean
I got to play with arguably the greatest athlete ever
in Bo Jackson.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
For a number of years ago. That is destremendous.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I don't think people really realize, am I right, how
great of a player baseball player he was?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Because he was football and baseball. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
I mean, the thing is, nobody ever moved out of
their spot in the dugout, No one moved in their
seats in the stands when Bo Jackson was either at
the plate or in the fields. We saw this roadway
throw at held Reynolds at the plate, running up the
wall there in Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean, he did so many unbelievable things.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
And then to watch him on the sidelines play football
and watch as the players looked at him as if
he wasn't really like we were saying the same thing
on the baseball field, there was a pleasure to play
with him.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
How well, today all the talk, of course, is about
showhy and you as a pitcher, you know what it
takes to be a major league pitcher, pitch at that level.
And for this guy to do only what Babe Ruth
did in the twenties, what is that? I know what
He's been around for a while and he pitched here.
Obviously you've got to see him. Just your appreciation of
(14:53):
what he's able to do.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm still in shock at how incredible he is.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
I mean, there's gonna go year we're gonna say he
was maybe the best baseball player is shoot the game
because of what he was.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Able to do hitching wise and hitting wise.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
And most people don't understand how difficult that is to
do that We all did in high school and some
guys did in college. This is the major day, and
you only do it two or three days a week.
He's doing a six seven days a week at the
highest level. He's I still go back to the double
header he had in Detroit when he was at the Angels.
He went out through it at ninety one, hit shut out
game one, so usually work. I mean as a picture,
(15:28):
I can't even move that whole next day, let alone
that same day because that game two of the double
highter hits two home runs. I mean, it's just we
were looking like he's not a real human being.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
He is a unicorn. But I think the biggest thing with.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Him, every time somebody has to be was tired of
all he would say is I want to win. So
his focus and his work ethic and his driver or
something I've never seen before.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Our guess is Mark Google's a color analyst from the
Los Angeles Angels FanDuel Sports Network. How about dealing with players,
you were a player, they would the top when broadcasters
would come and ask you good bad or writers and different.
You know, and now you're on the other side. It's
not about ripping people or whatever, but sometimes you know
things don't go right, and you have to be a
(16:13):
critical of point out stuff. How is that dealing with players?
And new players understand it? Especially coming from a guy
who actually.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Plays, I think it really for me.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
I started out watching with George Bradwidills, and he was
the Hall of Famer obviously, but after every game, good
or bad, he said, it was always easier to, you know,
I have a conversation after a win, but when you
did a bad game, whether he did something wrong or
a team, he was always ready there to answered questions.
So I learned that as a player. So now on
the broadcast side, I've always said I'm just gonna be
honest and that I've built such good relationships with all
(16:43):
the players to understand that my job is to, you know,
explain what happened and good or bad. Sometimes it's not good,
but I don't go into some reason why a players
should have made a play.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I said, the play wasn't me. So I was able
to do that.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
So take all the players out over the years and
I'm doing like I said a long time, all my
relationships the players have still been strong because they understand
that's my job, and I mean, I'm supposed to say
why something happened, why it did happen, and the guys
understand that, and.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
They're always good about that.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
As a color analyst too, you know, I watch a
lot of games. I'm I'm meant to baseball like that,
games on every night in my house. Okay, But as
a color analyst, is it how important is it to
also have foreshadowing or telling people what to look for?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Mark?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And what I mean is you know a matchup is
a bad matchup when you might say I don't know
if this is the right guy for him, or or
if you're at third base, watch out because this guy's
prone to bounce one. Is that what you're looking to
try to do as a color analyst as well?
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yeah, I mean it's something I kind of pride myself
on and be able to be a first guest kind.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Of second guess. It's easy to say something happen right
after after I misplays the ball, Oh that was a
bad player. That's easy.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah, but I always still because it all starts with
preparation with my producer, directors and all our research people.
I go, this is why I think we keep an
eye on and I'm willing to, you know, be wrong too,
stick my neck out saying, Okay, he's going to throw
a change up right here, So you gonna be sitting
on a change up sometimes in the fastball, but most
times if you do the right preparation and all.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
That, you know, that's the one you have right now
to be able to do that. But I'm a big believer.
I read your body language.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I can see where the guy's gripped the bat too much,
or you see the pitcher out there, he's working too fast,
he's breathing too quickly. There's a chance for the opponent
to do something special against the picture when that happened.
So my job is not just to kind of win,
to go what a great swing? I'm always I always
taught this early on by Scott Ackerman, who was a
tremendous producer, obviously for his NFL morning shows where he
won zillions of Emmys and all that. He says, tell
(18:34):
me something that, look, the viewer at home doesn't know
exactly right.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I mean, that's what you're trying to get to. And
as a viewer, I appreciate it. Yeah, I mean because
I can say, well that what a great swing.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
By David Ortiz, he had a home run, while before
he hits at home run, like this is what he
might be looking for, and this is why he hit
the home run, not just because the ball jumps off
his batans have lost it. All this stuff we kind
of all blend in there, but just to have an
idea what fans might be in line for before it happens.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Last thing. I know you're a baseball guy.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
But you love football and those Philadelphia Eagles, and you
know how football is. It's hard to repeat what a
great season they had last year. And I know as
a fan you hope that your team can win a game,
but you know how difficult it is.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
It is very, very difficult, really, what's going on with
my friend.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
It's always difficult, especially I already I've already been going
as a typical Philly guy who they have a tough schedule,
so I'm already prepping myself.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
But after they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
You know in seventeen eighteen, there they you know, they
just came out played well.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I went actually that game with Trouty.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
When they open up that thursday, I was looking around
make sure they won that we had an off there.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But this will we know this time around.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
But there's something about you know, Jalen is a tremendous leader,
Barkley because we get to wear.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Our jerseys on Wednesday when we're going to Detroit. By
the way, I got my barkety jers. Oh you got Judge,
you got ready to go it Jerfy.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
There's any Giant fans out there, they're gonna really appreciate
that one too.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
But they're gonna be battle tested.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
They made some great moves, they made some tough decisions
were you know, fan favorites.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
They're maybe getting a little bit longer.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
In their career that they're willing to move on, which
is always difficult to do, especially when you win a
super Bowl. But I expect them to be really good.
But I also expect that entire division, Washington's really good.
I think the Giants going to be better. And there's
a certain team down there in Texas at the Eagles
and Opening Days.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
So it's always fun when those two teams get together,
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
All Right, Mark Goobazov of course, from the Los Angeles
Angeles broadcast team from Fan Dual Sports Network.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
All Right, Mark, always thank him, appreciate it. We appreciate
it every time. Man, you're to men.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
In the words of New York TV legend the late
Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this time until
next time.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Rob Parker out.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
He can't, Davin.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
This could be an inside of Parker.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
See you next week, the same bat time, from same
Matt's station.
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