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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live
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on major League Baseball. Now, here's Baseball Hall of Fame
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Come on, I've been covering Major League baseball for almost
forty years now, in New York, in Cincinnati, in Detroit,
in LA.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I love this game. Let's go. Welcome into the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm your host, Rob Parker, and what a show we
have for you today. Coming up, former major league outfielder
and MLB Network analyst Chris Young joins US plus from
MLB dot Com. Jason Beck He covers the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Let's go better up to lead off, it's getting.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Robbed and keep him mind.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories in Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Number one, We only have.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Four baseball games left to the regular season starting today Thursday.
Unbelievable and what a finish it has been. I mean,
we're still on the edge of our seats. Every night
I'm watching, I can't believe what I'm watching. And I'll
be the first one to admit I was not into
the idea of expanding the playoffs and putting all these
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teams in in a wild card.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I just think, like I didn't want to do this
in baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I didn't want the Major League Baseball to turn into
the NBA or Day or the NHL, where more than
half the league's make the playoffs and the regular season
becomes irrelevant. But man, here we are four games left
coming into Thursday, and the Yankees and Blue Jays that
division isn't decided, and you got the Padres and Dodgers
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that division's not decided.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You also have the Al Central with.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
The Tigers and the Guardians not decided. There's playoff spots
at stake. I mean, you couldn't ask for a better
ending to the baseball season. And then come Sunday, everybody
plays at the same time, three pm Eastern, and it's
a frenzy at the end to find out who makes
it in those final wildcard spots. So I gotta give
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baseball credit. I wasn't a big fan of the wildcard,
but again I've been proven wrong because this.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Is exciting stuff. Here we are a lot still undecided
and there are only four days left in the.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Baseball season Number two.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't care what anybody says, and I don't care
how great the Dodgers' rotation is. In order to win
in the postseason, you gotta have a closer, somebody who
gets those big outs at the end of the game
to win it. The Yankees winn to have won all
those World Series championships without my Leanno Rivera.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Don't kid yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Sasaki and Kershaw pitched on Wednesday for the Dodgers out
of the bullpen. They did well, but the rest of
the bullpen didn't do well, and the Diamondbacks scored off
the bullpen late again. I'm just unless they get this
thing figured out, or guys who have been struggling all
year finally get it together like Tanner Scott or something
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and he has some unbelievable postseason after a terrible regular season,
then maybe they have a shot at repeating or getting
back to the World Series.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
But with a shaky, leaky bullpen, I can't see the
Dodgers making the World Series. I really can't.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
They've lost so many games late that it's gonna be tough.
So I'm counting the Dodgers out as long as that
bullpen stays the way that it.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Is number three.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
If the Tigers do not nt make the playoffs, I'm
talking about totally going from fifteen and a half games
up in the division and the Al Central to falling
all the way down where they're now in a wild
card spot. And if they lose that wild card spot
in the final four days of the season and they
were on the outside looking in, I'm sorry, Manager AJ
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Hinch has to be fired. If you don't get fired
off of colossal collapse like that, when could you possibly
be fired?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And some of the blame has to go on the manager.
What happened?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Undisciplined hit nineteen strikeouts in a big game out of
twenty seven outs, Like it's just there's so many things
to look here. All the Tigers had to do is
win three or four games over the last month and
they would be okay, and they would be going to
the playoffs. They had a chance to be the number
one seed in the American League. And now they can
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be out and you're going to pooh pooh that and
act like nothing happened, and hey, all right, Aj, let's
get them next year. Really, this is an epic, a
historic collapse. It will be one of the worst collapses
in the history of baseball. Now, if they hang on
and they get in the wild card, then of course
the job should be safe if they hang on somehow,
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But I'm talking about totally falling out. No postseason whatsoever,
no postseason, no aj Hinch.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Here comes the big interview. Listen and learn.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It's so good. All right, now, let's welcome into the podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Chris Young, the former Major League outfield of course, broken
with the Diamondbacks, played for the Mets, played for the Yankees,
the Red Sox, just had a tremendous career and now
doing a great job on television as a MLB network broadcaster.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
What's happening? How are you see?
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Why?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
What's up? Good to see you, brother, Good to see
you're You're not arguing with BK today?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
No, no, no, it's you today.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Hey, let's go here, like just the baseball season ended unfolding,
I mean, the drama, Chris, I just can't like night
after night and watching these games and these finishes and
walk offs and just all the stuff that's happening.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
How exciting has just been for you to watch and
where baseball is right now.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Man, we've been on pans and needles. It's a mix
of surges and collapses all happening at the same time.
You have teams like the Diamondbacks still trying to fight
their way in, and then you have the Tigers and
the match who seems like the world is ending right now.
But to see Kyle Riley doing this thing, the Mariner's
taking over that division after the Astros just couldn't figure
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out a way to win the game. It's been so
many storylines, and what makes it so beautiful is that
they're playing into the very last week and the season
in which that momentum is going to carry right into
the postseason. So we're due for really exciting October this year.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
No, well, let's start with the Mets, okay, and then
we'll talk about some of the other teams.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But you know, they win the Jan Soto sweep stakes.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Look at these numbers whatever, they're fantastic. We got it
got off to the slow start, but this team to
be struggling where they are, they might not make the playoffs.
How big of a blow would that be if they
don't get in considering you know, the money they spent the.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Team that they have put together, and this team was
good last year.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
When you look at the epic collapses that the Mets
have had in their history, this is right there with them. Branted,
it hasn't all been at one time at the end
of the season. It's been a gradual collapse all throughout
the second half. But to think to yourself, man, the
Mets spent all that money bringing over Sodo winning the
sweep stakes. Like you said, coming out the gate, that
starting rotation looked, you know, on paper going in like
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it wasn't that strong, But how the season started, they
looked like one of the best rotations in baseball. And
it seems like that has come ahead at this point
to where late in the year now you're almost opinion
on two or three rookies to get you to the postseason.
Tong had a tough outing last night. McClain is going
to night and you're putting all the weight on McLean's
shoulders to have to carry an organization like the New
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York Mets to the postseason. That is so much pressure
on a young player. But Singer going down to Triple
A trying to figure it out. I think that really
put them in a tough spot.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Let's stay in the National League a couple other teams,
and then we'll go over to the American League.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
The Milwaukee Brewers, we know what they've been able to
do this year. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Am I being unfair Chris when I say that they
might have peaked too early? I know the Brewers have
had really good regular seasons. They've lost eleven of their
last thirteen postseason games.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I'm out on the Brewers. I think they peaked already.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
You think they're pumpkins, you think they're really.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I just do not you.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's unfair, but I just you know, when you go
twenty nine and four in baseball, there's a something's going
to correct itself. You know how the baseball is. That's
an unbelievable number in this game.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Yeah, to some extent, you assume you are who you are.
But I don't think they're pumpkins. I think the Brewers
are the real real deal. The only thing I'm worried
about is a couple of the key injuries that just
popped up. Woodrow getting hurt, that's a big hit. Can
kind of being hurt, that's a big hit. McGill being hurt.
That's a big hit. The Brewers philosophy is still surrounded
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by the pitching. Yes, they have a lot of slightly
above average players that put to their entire lineup together,
and I trust that style of play. I think they
have just enough thomp to be able to compete in
the playoffs. But you need all those pitching, you know,
you got to need all those arms available. And that's
a team that's They're going to be so sensitive to
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the fact of the health of their pitching, and if
their pitching is down, they're gonna be in a tough spot.
But I don't think they're pumpkins though. I think they're
a legit good team.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
All right, let me add, okay, we know the Phillies
are a good team. I don't want to go there.
I want to go with the and I know where
the Dodgers are. I mean, they got a chance to
wrap up the division over the Padres, but there was struggles.
I mean, as good as they are on paper, see
why they just I don't know, they don't feel the
same to me. And I don't know if it's just
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because of the bullpen is terrible or what it is.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
This is something that doesn't feel the same. Where are
you on the Dodgers this year?
Speaker 6 (10:26):
I think the filling comes, and I think what you're
feeling is exactly what the team is feeling when you're
losing games late in the game. I think the energy
that comes and that's depleted from a team when you're
giving games the way late. It's some of the most
debilitating energy in baseball. And the Dodgers have a major
problem in their bullpen right now. The guys that they
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gave all the money to. Kirby Yates is injured. Scott
and trying to have had their fair share of struggles.
But on the bright side, you have a starting staff
that's one of the best in the game, and you
have six viable starters that I think Dave Roberts is
going to find a way to mix and match those
guys in the postseason while trying to find opportunities for
Scott and trying to get that confidence back, because I
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was looking at an interview a couple of weeks ago
with Stannard Scott and it seems like the world is
falling on them. But all you need is like a boxer,
all you need is a couple did knockouts right before
the postseason starts to get that confidence back up, and
you're just riding that wave, similar to what the Mariners
are doing right now.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
All right, Chris Young is our guest here on Inside
the Park, of course, former Major League outfielder and MLB
network analyst, does a great job on television. Let's go
to the American League. The Yankees didn't like that shot
at winning the AL East, and now they're tied with Toronto.
The Blue Jays have the tiebreaker, the Yankees having an
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easier schedule to finish out here.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Do the Yankees win the AL East?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
The Yankees win the Al least? The Yankees win the
AL East. I think the squad Toronto, it seems like
they're trying to figure out some things on how they're
starting rotation is going to line up for the postseason.
I trust either offense, but it's something about the energy
of the Yankees for me. I think about a month ago,
watching the way that they're playing the game has made
a significant difference to how they're built for the postseason.
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I think they're a better team even though you lose one,
so though I can company say that they're a better
team this year than they were last year. We saw
the defense come to a head last season in the postseason.
But bringing over guys like Caybriero, having McMahon at third base,
I think you shored up the defense, Cabriero being able
to go out there and steal basis. I think they're
a more complete team. And even though you don't have
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Garrett Cole at the top of that rotation, Max Free Corls,
Rodin and I would probably get the ball the Slittler
after that or he'll I think the Yankees are going
to find their way to the World Series once again,
because for something's telling me that they're going to find that.
We're playing two American League Central teams at some point
throughout the postseason and finding their way to the World Series.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
All right, let's get to the Central and then we'll
get your MVP vote in the league and then so
so in the Central.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, the Tigers collapse is epic.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I mean, this is just as good as as Cleveland
has been and they've won almost every game.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
But if the Tigers win.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Two or three games, you know what I mean, Like
Cleveland's not in this, Like that's all of with take.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Is it? Is it? Cleveland or is it Detroit? What
you know, who is who's the.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Who's at the run? Yeah, when you look at the
run that Cleveland on, you got to give credit to Cleveland. Yeah,
Detroit is a snowball going downhill right now. And it's
not looking good for the Tigers. But I think they're
still going to find their way into the playoffs, mainly
because the Houston Astroals seem like they can't find a
way to lose to win a game either, and they
lose the tiebreaker to Detroit, So it gives Detroit a
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good cushion to be able to still make it to
the postseason. But the Guardians, that's style of play that
Guardian ball is playing right now. Watching the game yesterday
or two days ago with Terrek Scoopel on the mound,
they understood that they weren't going to be out of
the outs, love them. They understood they have to play
small ball. Stephen Kuant leading off with the bun. Jose Ramirez,
he you can't describe how valuable he is to that
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team and his style of play and his ability to
contestently come through and bring that energy to the field
every single day. After a thirty forty season this year,
the pitching has been carrying them Parker Messig, Logan Allen.
I mean, it's a lot of guys that you're not
paying a lot of attention to. But when you look
at their starting rotation on this run that they've been on,
they're one of the best in baseball. And that is
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the style of play that has always gotten the Guardians
to the postseason. How far it takes them into postseason,
I wouldn't put much on that, but I think they're
definitely gonna win that division and go there.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, that is the issue.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Once to get in the postseason, it can't seem to
get over the hump last thing ALMVP.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I mean, it's it's real close.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You know, if I had a vote, I would vote
Aaron Judge.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I really would.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
And I know what Rob Kyle has done, which is
incredible for a catcher, but Aaron Judge's numbers across the
board are just outrageous.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Where are you?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I'm Aaron Judge as well, and I think I'm the
only person left at the network and I'm trying to
be open minded to this and making sure I'm not
using any biases and I'm fully appreciating what Riley is
doing and understand that catching every day takes a toll
on your body, and any catcher that I've talked to,
they say that what he's doing is unbelievable. But what
I would really hate to lose is the complete hitter
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in baseball, and I think you have to give value
to what Aaron Judge is doing. And we talk about
all the history that Riley has made passing up Mickey Mantle,
but we can't forget that Aaron Judge is making history
as well in this single season. I'm not even bringing
up his years from years past. This isn't alone. He's
the second player ever in the history of the game
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to lead both leagues and bad and average and hit
fifty home runs. The guy he passed up or is
right there with, is Mickey Mantle. So it's all about
how these storylines play out, on what we're appreciating, and
if we're as analysts saying that we missed the complete
hitter and we miss guys, or we're rewarding guys who
are only chasing power, I think we have to award
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guys that aren't doing that less guys than ever hitting
three hundred in the big leagues.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Sobelievable.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
It's unbelievable more valuable for guys who Aaron Judge hitting
three twenty five and still hitting fifty. He's doing something
that's a lost art in this game, and he, in
my opinion, impacts the Yankees lineup even more than Kyle
Raley impacts the Mariners lineup. But Kyle Raley is the
plane going out there getting beat up as a catcher.
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And I think that does give you some kud Old
points for sure, but just not enough to take over
how Judge is dominated once again this year.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
See why I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I just in a league where the league batting average
is averages forty two, and you got a power hitting
the hitter hitting three twenty five in this day and
age where all these arms everybody can throw was one hundred.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Think about it like this, Rob If we're ever we
talk about Riley like it's one of the best players
of all time with the numbers that he has right now,
If Kyle Riley had Aaron Judge's numbers, we would be
losing our minds right now. On the opposite side, if
Aaron Judge had Kyle Riley's numbers, right now and everybody
whoever's watching pull it up from his career numbers. This
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is where voter fatigue comes in. Look at Judge's numbers.
If he had Rallley's numbers, we would say, yeah, his
homers are good, but why is this on face percentage
be hindred points?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Lord?
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Why is his ops two hundred points?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
We would be talking about Aaron Judge as if this
was a down season for him, and that speaks not
down on Kyle Riley, but on the greatness of Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well said my man, Hey, Chris, thank you, I appreciate
you and see you soon.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
And man, I can't wait for the playoffs to start.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
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The twenty twenty five regular season is nearly in the books,
and as expected, it's been a barn burner. Where do
we even start? Cal Rawley set the record for most
homers by a catcher, switch hitter, and mariner while leading
his team to the playoffs for just the second time
in twenty four years. Now, speaking of home runs, specifically
four in one game, it happened in MLB record three
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times this season after not happening once over the last
eight years. And we needed the homers because it sure
wasn't about the average. There will be fewer than ten
qualified hitters to bat three hundred or better for the
third straight season now. Trade Turner's NL leading three to
zero five average would be the second lowest ever for
a league leader, after Carl Yastremski in nineteen sixty eight. Now,
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speaking of nineteen sixty eight, low numbers weren't just relegated
to the hitters, as Baltimore's Trevor Rodgers owns a one
to thirty five era this year in seventeen starts the
lowest for any pitcher with at least one hundred innings
since Bob Gibson's legendary one twelve mark from the Year
of the Pitcher. Now, we know about forty forty and
fifty to fifty, but what about thirty thirty, thirty, thirty homers,
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thirty doubles and thirty steals. Cleveland's Rose Ramirez reached those
numbers for the third time in his career, becoming the
third player ever with three such seasons, joining Alfonso Soriano
and Barry Bonds. And finally, what about collapses? No, not
just the Tiger's blowing a record fifteen and a half
game lead to Cleveland, but for the first time ever,
every single division had a blown lead of at least
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five and a half games at some point. Baseball never disappoints,
and twenty twenty five was no different.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this
motto if I'm writing, I'm ripping. Let's bring in a
writer or broadcaster, old or new.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
All right, now, let's welcome in Jason Beck from MLB
dot Com. Of course, he covers the Detroit Tigers twenty
fourth season, which I cannot believe.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Jason, Welcome to the podcast. How are you good?
Speaker 9 (22:06):
How are you rob?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Doing great?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Way better than the Tigers, And that's why we want
to jump in on this.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Jason, You've been.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Covering baseball for a long time. This is an epic collapse. Okay,
coming into Thursday, the third and final game of this
series against the Guardians in Cleveland, where you are.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
The Tigers are now.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
One game out of first place, have a chance to
not even make the playoffs depending on how these final
four games go. Just what has happened here with this team.
It's it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
Well, you know, some of the issues we're building over
the course of the summer. You know, you could kind
of see where, Okay, the offense is a bit streaky.
You know, the bullpen has taken on a lot of work.
Really for a good chunk of the season. You could
kind of see some guys kind of you know, struggling
with with workload, you know, maybe running on fumes oft times.
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Then you couple that with a mixed trade that line.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Honestly, you know, knowing Detroit feel like they didn't do
enough that Scott Harrison just sat on his hands.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
I mean, they made moves, but I think when you
look at the Charlie Morton trade and the Chris Paddock trade,
those both backfire. You know, Morton's no longer with the
team at all. Paddock is basically at the very end
of the bullpen just you know, it only seems to
pitch in lopsided games or games where they need in
thing's covered. You know, those were two guys who were
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supposed to step into the rotation. Morton was was acquired
in no small part to be that experienced guy in
a swing role for for a playoff runt, and he's
not even going to be around for it if they
make the playoffs. Had gone to that point, and that's
left the rotation and a lot of flux after really
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after Derek Scoopel. You know, we've seen up and down
performances from Jack Flaherty and Casey miz case He has
seemed to settle things down a bit. Jack has been
not quite as up and down as before. But after that,
you know, there's a bunch of question marks right now.
And I think when when you look at the bullpen,
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you know will vest his head struggles. Tommy Kinley had
outstanding first couple of months, had some midseason struggles to
look like he was coming out of it, and now
he's struggling. Kyle Finnigan got hurt, so all of a sudden,
you combine that and a team that has had a
turbulent relationship with strakeouts offensively over over the really the
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entire season.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I'm glad you brought that up because Game one of
this series against Cleveland, you.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Have schoobl on the mound, you know, and the Tigers.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
Strike out nineteen times, like like nineteen times in a
in a in a game. I mean, just like that's
that's unheard of.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
It's not just they struck out nineteen times, roped. They
struck out nineteen times, the vast majority of which came
against a starting pitcher that they had just seen a
week ago, Like you know, this was their second time
around against them, and it looked like they they did
not make adjustments that they were in the same chasing
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out the strike zone position that they were in last
week in Detroit, and I think that's the disappointing part.
I think, you know, when you hear adj talk about
what the Guardians have been able to do to his
pictures offensively, you can sense that he wishes his offense
was more like that in terms of tenas at bats,
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putting the ball in play and putting pressure on the
defense to make plays against them. They were doing that
for parts of the season. They have struggled to do
that over like the last six weeks to two months,
and it has definitely beenen them.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Our guest is Jason Beck from MLB dot Com.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Of course, he covers the Detroit Tigers and has for
twenty four seasons. Does a great job. One of my
good friends, Jason, let's go to Taraks schoolbl who started
that important game one. The Tigers moved his spot in
a rotation, hoping that he pitched on Tuesday and possibly
Sunday after they really needed him. He had a two
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to nothing lead. Everything came undone. But Jason, you know,
we know how great he is and a Cy Young
Award winner and all that, but that no look throw
in the biggest game of the year the first base
in that situation, I just cannot understand how that could
have and that just it just didn't make any sense.
I mean, Kareem Abdul Jabari could not have caught that
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ball at first base.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
It was an uncharacteristic mistake from a pitcher who was
trying to do too much. And in Turk's defense, he
has tried this before, it has come up earlier in
the season. It looked, you know, somewhat similar to that.
But I think in the heat of the moment, he
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did not want to give up a rally based on
back to back on singles, so he tried to do
something out of the ordinary that was very It was
very risk reward, but the risk was way higher than
the reward and he paid for it. And you know,
in some ways, yeah, you would have had two on
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and nobody out anyways, but I think there's a big
difference in editing between runners in first and second and
nobody out and runners at second and third and.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Pay you A lot can happen there.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
And especially against that offense, which excels at putting the
ball in play. In advancing runners, you are basically putting
the game time rally on a platter for them at
that point, and it is it is Trek I think,
in part trying to be ultracompetitive, which is one of
his stricts.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
It is a huge.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
Part of what motivates them to be who he is.
But I think it's also him carrying the carrying the
weight of this team and it's season on his shoulders.
He feels it. He doesn't talk about at a time
he wants to make this about the team, but everybody
knows who sees this team for more than a few days,
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like this is Trek School's team, and when he takes
the mound, you know there's an immense feeling like this
is a game they should win.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Okay, Jason, one last thing if they if this is
the absolute collapse and this thing falls apart, they don't
make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Does A J. Hinch get blamed for this or Scott Harratt?
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Could AJ Hinch lose his job if they don't make
the playoffs?
Speaker 9 (29:10):
I think AJ's okay. I think you know, given how
important aj has been to building this organization to get
to this point, I think he's in He's in a
good spot. I think they still feel like He's the
guy they want to build this team around and want
leading this team, especially since this has a chance to
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be an even younger team going forward. You know, next
year you're gonna have Kevin McGonagall, Max Clark, and Josewei
Bassino knocking on the door. You know, your your core
could change fairly dramatically next year, especially if there's a
decision that they made on Derek School.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
All right, this is going to be a stink if
they don't make it, Jason, I have not nineteen sixty
four Phillies blew it losing ten of their last twelve
to not make to give up the division, not make
the playoffs. Hey, Jason, thanks for the insight. We appreciate
you as always, my man, and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 9 (30:08):
Stay well, absolutely, Thanks Rob, good talking ball with you.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
In case you missed Rob Parker on the MLB Next words,
here's his latest appearance on mL Dina.
Speaker 11 (30:22):
Time for the showdown with my friend Rob Parker. We
went through this last week. Glad to have you back
again this week. How was your week? How you doing?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Not bad? Steve?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I was down in Baltimore over on Saturday and actually
was in attendance when John Calliston hit his four hundred
and fiftieth home run.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I was there.
Speaker 11 (30:40):
I love it. I would also say probably had a
better week than the Detroit Tigers had, as the Tigers
had six straight losses during the course of the week.
They've lost nine out of ten, and they now have
a one game leading Ale Central over the Guardians. It
has gone from fifteen games down to one game right now?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
All right?
Speaker 11 (31:00):
Oh, do the Tigers make the postseason?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
No way, No, how Steve. I talked to you last
week about this. You said you weren't concerned that they
would get in. I am convinced they will not. And
if the Guardians beat schoobl tomorrow in Cleveland, it's a rap.
That's their last chance. They might not win another game
this season. It's been this bad and I'm not looking
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at this as oh what a bad stretch. It's unfortunate.
The Tigers lost twelve out of thirteen in July. They've
done this. This is who they are, frauds. There were
a mirage all year. They're not that good, Steve. They're
not a good team doesn't lose as many games.
Speaker 11 (31:42):
Well, I mean, they've also won more games than many
of the teams and remember they're doing it this year
a lot like they did last year. It is pitching chaos.
It's just that a j hnches putting guys in a
position that they haven't gotten it done. But they what
they did with the off day to day. They were
able to move Trek Scruble up to pitch on Tuesday
and have a start, and he gets another start potentially
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on Sunday. So two of the six remaining games can
be started by school ball, and so I think it
does give them a real chance still to get and
especially if they went on Tuesday. I think the other
part of it is the Astros feel like they're in
a worse position than are the Tigers, and so I
think that although Detroit's not in a great spot, I
think Houston's in a worse spot, which could open the
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door for Detroit.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Here's my only issue is the Tigers feel dead to me.
I mean, you've watched the games you've seen and you
see a team this bad, and I get it. You're
banking everything on Schooble trying to win you two games.
That sounds good. The only problem is last year when
they got knocked out in the postseason, it was Schooble,
who was on the mound. This audience team is better
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than you're giving them credit. And I'm telling you, I
think they'll sweep all three games and this.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Will be done for the Tigers. The school might not
even have to pitch on Sunday.
Speaker 11 (32:56):
Yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see which
direction this ends up going. All right, So the Brewers
Clint Daniel Central yesterday. They have the best record in baseball,
all right, they won the Central best record in baseball,
and so now they're going to head back to the postseason.
The postseason has not been a really good place for them,
right since twenty eighteen. Four times they've been eliminated in
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the Wildcard round, once in the Division Series, once in
the LCS. They have one World Series Title one pennant,
not Title one pennant since in nineteen eighty two. So
they've gotten back to the postseason again. Do they have
to win to be able to justify this success?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
One hundred percent?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I mean, this is getting ridiculous. The Brewers are good.
We noticed they've made the playoffs with this year it
will be seven out of eight years. But there are
two and eleven in their last thirteen postseason games, and
if you honest with Brewers fans and you would have
asked them, nothing they did this year will matter to
them if they can't at least move on and give
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it a run. This has been ridiculous and how bad
they've been in the postseason, and that's the only way
they're going to justify the problem is.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I think they peaked way too early.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
When they were winning every night, it seemed like and
you know how baseball is, so could there be a
thump at the end with the Brewers again, I think
it could happen.
Speaker 11 (34:19):
I mean, they went twenty nine and four. They played
out of their mind. You're right, they played for extremely
good baseball for a long time. That being said, you
think about this franchise in the size of the market.
You're looking at a small to middle market team that
has been ranked in the bottom third in payroll in period.
You look back to twenty twenty, this year twenty fourth
in payroll, last year twenty second, the year before that,
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twentieth in payroll. You think about bang for the buck.
Nobody gets more bang for the buck than do the
Milwaukee Brewers, and so I understand that the postseason, I
look at it a little bit more as a crapshoot
than you do. I think it's a tournament that it's
not the best team that wins. Is the team playing
the best that gets hot at the right time that
hasn't been Then give me the franchise that keeps taking
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their team to the postseason. Sooner or later, the timing
will work out for them. I think they've done an
unbelievable job to put themselves in this position that I
look at it and think that they are as good
as anybody in baseball right now and have as much
a chance as anybody to get to the World Series
this year.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well here's the problem, Steve, and I hear all that,
and you sound like a general manager trying to justify
your gig. But I'm sorry, at some point, you're that
good all year, but when it comes down to winning
a couple of important ballgames, you can't win. And you
can talk about payroll and size of franchise and all that.
All I know is the Tampa Bay Rays have gone
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to the World Series. At some point you have to
push through. And that's my point is that it's not
good enough just to be good. The same players who
got you a Central Division title the last few years.
Now all of a sudden, can't win you a playoff
series or a wildcard round, Like there's something disconnect there.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
So I understand it. It's not equal.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
People have different payrolls, but they have to be better
in the postseason. Nobody in Milwaukee cares about the Central title.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
They want to move on for the next round in
the post.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
Of all the teams and all the negativity we can
spew on people, the Brewers are not one of them.
If they're one of the baseball's best stories this year,
and we'll see if they can't get it done of
the postseason. Now, some bad news, Brandon Woodroff on the
injury list, a moderate latt strain. We'll see if he's
ready for the postseason, and some issues there. So we'll
see where they end up going.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
All right.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
What the Brewers will wind up being in the postseason
A warm beer if they don't win a playoff series.
Speaker 11 (36:39):
All Right, I love it. Warm beer is not the
worst thing in the world, all right. John Carlos Stanton
hit his four hundred and fiftieth home run. You said
you were there, you saw it over the weekend, all right,
four hundred and fifty home runs. Does that make him
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
No, not yet.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
He has to get to the magic number five hundred.
I'm not putting them in off of that. But when
you start looking at some of his numbers, I think
they're impressive. Look at this fifth fastest to four hundred
and fifty, and it tells you a lot when you
consider how much.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Time he's actually missed.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
He has more postseason home runs than Babe Ruth in
the same amount of games.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Babe Ruth at fifteen.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
John Carlos Stan has eighteen, and I think when you
look at it, like how impressive is numbers? Nobody wants
to be injured like people want to hold that against him.
You can't hold that against him. He doesn't control him
being healthy or he doesn't want to play. Of course
he wants to play. But when he's out there, he's
one of the best. One of the MVP. A home
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run title, I mean, fifty nine home runs, He's got
a lot on his plate. And when I look at
the collection of his career, if he gets and I'm
even gonna say if when he gets to five hundred
and if he helps the Yankees win a World Series,
he will get voted into.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
The Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
To me, five hundred is a magic number, and he's
close to it.
Speaker 11 (38:06):
Well, I think I just heard you say that he's
better than Babe Ruth. I think I heard that. I
think I heard that.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Now.
Speaker 11 (38:13):
I think Brian Kenny would go nuts right now if
he had heard that. So here's the thing. Doesn't a
Hall of Famer need to have Hall of Fame seasons,
like multiple Hall of Fame seasons. And he's got the MVP,
but he's had only three seasons in which he's played
like one hundred and thirty five games or more during
the course of his season, and so he's not stayed healthy.
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And I think in order to be anv to be
a Hall of Famer, don't you have to have like
a career of seasons that get you to the Hall
of Fame instead of just pieces piece together over the
course of multiple years.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
No, you have to be able to be around to
put up significant numbers. To me, as a Hall of
Fame voter, if you get three hundred wins, if you
get three thousand hits, if you get five hundred hit
home runs, automatically get my vote. Because to be able
to stick around in the big leagues long enough to
compile those numbers, there's still magic numbers.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
To me, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
This is not Dave Kingman hitting four hundred and sixty
home runs batting two thirty. This guy's had big home
runs in big moments. Go look at his postseason. Every
home run he hit last year Steve for the Yankees
either tied the game or put them ahead. It wasn't
window dressing in a ten run blowout. They were huge
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home runs in big moments and big spots. He's must
see TV in the postseason. I think that gives him
the extra juice. I get the injuries, I get the
miss time, but when he plays, he's one of the
best players. In the words of New York TV legend
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the late Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this
time until next time.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Rob Parker out.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
He can't get it. This could be an inside the Parker.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
See you next week, same bat time, same Matt station.