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On this week’s edition of  Inside the (Rob) Parker, Rob checks in live from Rickwood Field in Birmingham to discuss the late-great Willie Mays and the significance of Negro League baseball. Plus, we have on-location interviews with San Francisco Giants pitcher Jordan Hicks and St Louis Cardinals broadcaster Mike Claiborne. Finally, we’ve got appearances by MLBBro.com managing editor JR Gamble and gambling expert David Gascon.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live
in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give
us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop
on Major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame
voter number seventy Rob Parker.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome into a very special edition of Inside the Parker
on site.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
We're in Birmingham, Alabama. Yes, this's festival at a very
special day. Rookwood Feel the oldest professional stadium in the
United States. Coming up on a.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Podcast, we'll talk with San Francisco Giants starter Jordan Hicks.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Also, we'll talk with Samuelis Cardinals radio broadcaster Mike Claybourne.
That was foul affair. It's all coming up next.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Better up to lead off? It's getting robbed and keep
them up. Rob's hot take and the three biggest stories
in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Number one, we mourn the death of one of the
greatest baseball icons, in fact, one of the greatest sports
legends in history in this country, Willie Mays, who passed
away on Tuesday at age ninety three.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Right on the heels of.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
The MLB Negro League's tribute which is taking place in Birmingham, Alabama.
Alabama's where Willie Mays was born. And Willie Mays, as
people know, is one of the all time great players.
Could do it all five tools, He could play center

(01:38):
field like nobody's business.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Twelve gold gloves.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
He hit for power, six hundred and sixty home runs,
hit for average, a three h one lifetime batting average,
had almost three hundred and fifty stolen bases in his career.
I mean, just had a knack for the game and
the zass Wona World Series with the New York Giants,
played for the Giants and for the Mets in his

(02:03):
long career and is recognized by a lot as the
one of the best all around players. When you put
everything together and tie it into a bowl, so it's
it's it's great both A great tribute that was expected
to happen Thursday night, UH for Willie Mays. And obviously

(02:28):
the sad part is that he passed away before this
could happen, but I already know baseball will be able
to have a grand sendoff. Baseball does a great job
of UH reliving and celebrating the past. The game has
so much history, so much texture, so much context. When

(02:50):
you talk about sports, and Willie Mays was a part
of it. I mean, I always think about the three
great center fielders in New York. They came up with
a song, Willie, Mickey and the Duke. Willie Mays played
for the New York Giants, Mickey Mantle played for the
New York Yankees, and Duke Schneider played centerfield for the
Brooklyn Dodgers, all in the same time, all playing in

(03:11):
New York. But there's no doubt Willie Mays is on
your Mount Rushmore of all time great players in the
history of baseball. And it's sad that he'll be missed.
But what a life, what a career. Willy May's dead
at age ninety three, and we will celebrate him until

(03:31):
the Cows come home.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Number two of all the players to watch in the
Negro League's tribute game in Birmingham, Alabama, I think it
should be Saint Louis Cardinals shortstop Mason win who enters
the game.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
And this is.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Against ranking against other rookies in baseball. He's first in
average three to oh two, second in hit sixty two
with the RBIs with twenty four on base percentage, second
at three point fifty and tied for first in total
bases with eighty nine. He has been tremendous playing shortstop

(04:14):
every day for the Saint Louis Cardinals. Also this past season,
had an eighteen game hitting streak at one point. He's fun,
great to watch. He doesn't strikeout a ton. He knows
how to handle the bad So when you're watching the
game Thursday, the Giants against the Cardinals in Birmingham at

(04:36):
rick Wood Field, take a look at the Cardinals shortstop.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
He's young, he's a player of the.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Future, and the Cardinals might have their shortstop for a
long time to come.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
He looks like a star.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Number three.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Here we are almost in July, and yes, Stephen Kwan
from the Cleveland Guardian is flirting with batting four hundred.
After his first two at bats on Thursday, Kwan had
a double in his first at bat. He's batting three

(05:16):
to ninety eight now he's done it in forty six games,
but he is flat out raking. I mean that hit
in the first inning for the Guardians on Thursday gave
him a fourteen game hitting streak, which is pretty remarkable.
No one has hit four hundred in the American League

(05:37):
or in the majors for that matter, since Ted Williams
did it when he hit four to six in nineteen
forty one. Do I think Kwan is gonna hit four
hundred for the season. No, I do not, But it
is a marvel to see a guy this far along
in the season, you know, batting three ninety eight, flirting
with the idea of it, and Raking got fourteen game

(06:00):
hitting streak. So twenty six year old was drafted in
the fifth round in twenty eighteen. Nobody could have imagined
this kind of pop in his bat and I mean
hits wise, not power, but hits. It's pretty incredible. But
it's worth watching as we get into July. How long

(06:20):
can he keep this up? Maybe can win a batting title,
but can he really hit four hundred? I just don't
think so.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Here comes the big interview. Listen and learn.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
All right now, let's welcome in Jordan Hicks. Why I
had a picture for the San Francisco Giants here.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
At rick Wood Field for a historic game? What does
it mean to you to be here where.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
The Negro leagues play one of the oldest stadiums in
the country, And just.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
What I mean I mean, it's a really cool experience overall.
I'm excited to see two teams with a lot of
history going at it on one of the oldest fields,
one of the oldest ballparks, and just embrace all the
history here. That's I think, that's what it's all about.
And I'm just surprised to took this long to get
to having.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
A game here. How much of the history of the
negro Leagues. You're a young guy.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I don't expect you to know everything, but what did
you know about the negro Leagues?

Speaker 5 (07:15):
I mean, I know that it was all black players,
and that there was a lot of passion, a lot
of I mean, just things that we don't have to
go through these days, obviously, So I know a lot
of them ended up getting to the big leagues and
just paving the way for a lot of us.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
When you walked out onto the field, just did you
think about that? Think about that? Willie Mays and some
of the all time greats played in this part.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, I mean, if it's hard not to think about it,
you know, especially being in this organization. You hear about it, Willie,
And the first time I actually stepped forward was yesterday.
It was a concert going on, and I still felt
like it was a whole It wasn't even baseball, but
I still felt it just kind of like the energy,
you know. So I'm just really happy to be here,
to be able to put this uniform on and represent

(08:05):
the Giants.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Let's speak about Willie Mays and his passing. When you
heard the news that had you met Willie.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
I hadn't met him, but it's it's a sad It
was definitely a sad day for just all baseball in general.
Like I said, his legacy and what he meant to
the people to the game, and yeah, it's just just
pray for his family and hopefully.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, when when you see his and obviously everybody rehashes
his career and what he was able to do. When
you see the numbers and see, you know it, this
guy missed two years to go to the military, and
the numbers he was able to put up back three hundred,
six hundred and sixty home runs. Are you amazed at
what he was able to accomplish.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yeah, I mean the numbers definitely speak for themselves. Just
like any historic player. You look at the numbers and
then you watch him play some of the video clips
that I've seen, like him making the catch or just
the swing. I feel like he could have played in
this game too in this day.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
And age, you know.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
So yeah, I mean he's gonna his legacy will live
on and he was a great player, great human.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
What do you hope to take away from this experience?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Is it just we live in what we live in
some of the past and what our people went through
to do, you know, to get to this point where
you are a big league player without the struggles that
these guys had to go through.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
For me, that's the biggest part of it is just
not have like they paved the way so we didn't
have to go through the same kind of things and
for that, I'm forever grateful and whenever. When I was
growing up, Jackie Robinson was my big inspiration. That's why
I did all my papers on in school, Like if
I had something to write about that, I was writing
about Jackie Robinson. So that was like my idol growing up.

(09:48):
And it's really appreciative of all the sacrifices that were made.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
It was a big week in the Big League.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Who's five don't believe.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Is it foul or is it fair? And now from
mlbtbro dot com. Here's JR. Gambell.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
On Monday, Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said that the team
is expected Mookie Betts to miss roughly six to eight
weeks with a fractured hand after getting hit by a
pitch in a game against the Kansas City Royals on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Roberts compared the timeline to win.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Former LA Dodgers shortstop Corey Seeger missed sixty five games
in twenty twenty one with a similar injury.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Jr.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Is if foul or fair to say that the Dodgers
could squander the NL West lead during the time Mookie
Bets is.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Out fair, It's a fair ball.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
The Dodgers are a talented team with a lot of depth.
It's sick comfortably eight games ahead in the NASA League West,
but the loss of the seven time All Star Mookie
Bets is a tough blow for Los Angeles, as Betts
was in the midst of another MVP caliber season as
the Dodgers shortstop and leadoff hitter. Through seventy two games,

(11:14):
he was hitting three h four with ten on runs
in forty RBI, and certainly he was the most important
player on this team who has World Series aspirations or bust.
Bets also on the four to zero five on base percentage,
which represented the third highest mark of his career over
the course of a full season. The Dodgers got out

(11:35):
to a fast start luckily with Bets and Otani and
Freeman leading the way, and have dealt with the string
of injuries throughout the twenty twenty four season but been
able to still maintain that lead. In addition to Betts,
started Yoshi Knobu Yamamato was placed on the fifteen day
injured list due to a strained rotator cuff, and third

(11:56):
baseman Max Munsey also remains out after suffering oblique strain
on May fifteen. And Bens's absence, Los Angeles will likely
lean on veteran Miguel Rojas at shortstop, but they certainly
will feel the difference in production, leadership, and energy on
the field. Dave Roberts is certainly hoping that Mookie Betts

(12:16):
returns before sixty five games. Could the Dodgers really blow
an eight game lead in the time that Mookie is out.
It's possible. Anything is possible when you lose one of
the top three players in baseball. You can't say that
you're gonna have the same team, So quick return for
Mookie and right now San Francisco and San Diego should

(12:40):
be thinking about making up a live and ground on
the Dodgers with Mookie on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
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Speaker 3 (12:52):
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Speaker 7 (12:54):
Hey Rob, we got a somber tone this week in
Major League Baseball at the passing and the great will
in May is dying age of ninety three. We look
forward to the weekends festivities and what we got on
Friday Dodgers and Angels is probably one of the most
one sided lopsided affairs this weekend. I will take the
Dodgers at home against the Halos to get things done. Meanwhile,

(13:15):
Astros and Orioles that kick things off from Houston justin Verlanders.
So far this season three and two record, the Era
sits at three ninety five trying to bounce back, and
his team is as well. Astros have had a tough
go out it so far this year and only middle
of the road when it comes to what they've done
at home at Mini Made Park, But I will take
Houston and Verliner to get the w there. Nathany Voldi

(13:37):
and the Texas Rangers still under five hundred, they're at home.
There'll be a home dog against the Kansas City Royals.
I'll take Texas to pull off the upset there. So
that's what we got Texas, Houston, La Dodgers. Friday night.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
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Speaker 1 (13:50):
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Speaker 2 (16:00):
All right now, let's welcome into the broadcast Saint Louis
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Speaker 8 (16:05):
To Mike Clayborne. Mike, welcome to the podcast. Oh you,
I'm great man. It's great to see you here in
rick Wood Field, here.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
In Birmingham, Alabama.

Speaker 8 (16:12):
And I couldn't think of a better place to be
with one of my favorite people, my man, And what
a day this will be in this intimate setting, all
the history.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Just some of your thoughts about this. Had you been
here before.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
I'd been here before, but not since they revamped it.
It's been a while, and it was funny. Willie McGee
and I were talking about it.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
He played here.

Speaker 8 (16:35):
Back in the eighties and it's this place has such meaning, man,
I mean, it's such such so much history. One hundred
and eighty nine Hall of Famers played here at one
point in their careers and it's just really an great
environment to be in today, and it's so festive.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
And obviously this was going to be a tribute to
the Negro leagues.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Willie Mays, one of the remaining Negro league plays who
unfortunately passed on Tuesday. But still I think this will
be an opportunity to pay the ultimate tribute to Willie
Mays here tonight.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh there's no doubt.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
I mean, he was the greatest player I ever saw
player and on this day to celebrate him as who
he is and who he was and what he meant
to the game, not just black players, but white players,
and how he gravitated everybody kind of came to Willie Mays.
He was one of the favorites because of his personality,
obviously his skill set at the time of our country

(17:32):
where that wasn't always accepted, and the impact he had
on the game.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
He's kind of like the face of the game.

Speaker 8 (17:37):
He in my opinion, would be the logo like we
see in the NBA with Jerry West. He had that
impact on the game and the honor and celebrate him.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I'm an honor to be here.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Our guest is Mike Claiborne, Saint Louis Cardinals radio announcer.
And the shocking part a little bit for me is
the young players who I talk to are here today,
the young black players who all embraced this, who all
understand what this means and they know their history and
they're thrilled to be here.

Speaker 8 (18:05):
Did you get that too from guys. There's only one
problem with that. There's not enough of them. There's not
enough of them participating in this game. We're at a
real critical stage as far as the African American players
playing this game. We've got to find a way to
get them more engaged. But the ones that are here,
and Mason winn is with the Cardinals, and what a
dynamic young man he is. He is embracing this, you know,

(18:28):
in an incredible way. And I think that when you
have a guy like that who understands what his role is,
it's a very opportune time for him and certainly baseball.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
And what a season he's having.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't want to get diverted, but man batting over
three hundred, number one for rookies in Major League Baseball
batting average.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
He's doing everything man, and plus he plays some hell
of the shorts top two. He's a real good leader.

Speaker 8 (18:52):
I was talking to Paul Goldschmid about him today, about
how far along he is for a twenty two year old,
and he's gonna be a leader. He's gonna be facing
this team one day.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
And Jordan Hicks is another guy for the Giants.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
A picture changed over from reliever to starters had some
season for them.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
He as well.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I talked to him before and he's embraced this too.
Young guys like that, those are guys we needed. There's
no doubt a message out, there's no doubt, and I'm
glad that guys are embracing it.

Speaker 8 (19:23):
You know, we had a group of people at one
point who didn't want to be involved and wanted to
kind of walk away from social issues and things of
that nature. But this new generation of guys, they understand it,
and that's a good thing. And maybe we can get
more people like that involved and get this game back
to where it needs to be with it when it
comes to inclusion.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
And Mike, I'm gonna say this baseball gets beat up
a lot, and it does.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
But two things that just happened that I got to
get baseball credit because they don't have to do it.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
They didn't have to do it, most of the fan
base probably doesn't want it done. And including the the
Negro League stats and playing this game here at the
oldest stadium but a Negro League stadium is a pretty
amazing two things that they've done of late for Major
League Baseball.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Oh, I agree, And you.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
Know what, They didn't have to do it, and we
just talked about the African American participation is at an
all time low. They could have moved on and found
somebody else to celebrate, but they did, and they did
it in a first class manner. They included everybody from
the past as many as they could find and got
them engaged.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
They got involved in the community.

Speaker 8 (20:33):
While they've been here in Birmingham and obviously just spreading
the word about baseball is cool and baseball is good,
and they understand their role of being more civic involved.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
In every community, not just worrying about who's gonna show
up to the ballpark.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Mike, the thing I love the most about baseball is
it knows how to embrace his past and celebrate its
heroes an icon better than any other sport.

Speaker 8 (20:58):
Michael Bourn one of my favorite with people, no doubt,
he's one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Just came by.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah you're right, am I right, Like like Willie Mays
hank eron.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
They don't let that go by, would act to like
like it ain't a big deal. I'm gonna tell you
the other sport that doesn't like that, as the NBA.

Speaker 8 (21:13):
They don't miss an opportunity to celebrate the people who
made that lead, and that's something that baseball is doing
more of and I'm happy for him.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Last thing, what do you hope to leave take with
you from rick Wood after?

Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know, participating in being here for this historic event, man,
A win, A cardinal win, of course that I figured that.

Speaker 8 (21:34):
But you know what, just being able to inhale what
we're seeing today and watching everybody coming together, there's no issues.
We're just here as people celebrating and enjoying this opportunity
that it would last for me forever. I've been to Mexico,
I've been to London, I've been to Williams Sport, I've
been to all those places because of baseball and watching

(21:55):
people come together is what makes us fun.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
And did you ever think you would be here for
a real major league game.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'm not coming on, Mike, no way, not at all.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
It is something I won't ever forget, something that I'm
going to truly celebrate and remind everybody.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Else what great experiences was Mike. Always a pleasure, my man.
I appreciate you. Keep up the great work.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Man.

Speaker 8 (22:18):
I check you out all the time, and I love
your guests and how you do things, man, keep it
up and you know you can find me. Brother.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I got you anytime you need my man. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Now bring in the closer. Here's why MLB is better
than the NFL or NBA, and it isn't even close.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Reason number four hundred and fifty five why Major League
Baseball is better than the NBA and better than the
NFL is that when we debate the all time greats,
we don't tear down the other players.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
To make a case. We can do it respectfully.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
And today Brian Kenny from MLB Network and me, we
debated the best player of all time?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Is it Willie Mays or is it Hank Aaron.

Speaker 9 (23:09):
Willie May's tremendous missed two years with the military. I
get all that, But Hank Aaron's offensive numbers are so
through the roof that it's hard to ignore. He was
a home run champ. He passed Babe Ruth. He dealt
with the pressures of passing Babe Ruth.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
What that meant to him? What that meant to this country?

Speaker 10 (23:32):
Twenty three hundred RBIs in twenty three seasons, and he
wasn't a stiffany out for He won three Gold gloves,
not Willie Maysy the out right right he could feel.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
But the offensive numbers are ridiculous. Take away his seven
hundred and fifty.

Speaker 10 (23:49):
Five home runs and he still has three thousand hits.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
I think that's incredible. Batted three oh five lifetime. He
early on in his career, he stole some bags and
a Willie made on the basis, But what didn't Hank
Aaron do. His numbers are through the roof. And that's
why I have to go with Hank Aaron because I
think that they're better than anybody else's.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
In the words of New York TV legend the late
Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this time until
next time.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Rob Parker out he can't Gavin.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
This could be an inside of Parker.

Speaker 10 (24:29):
See you next week, same bat time, same Matt station.
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