September 1, 2020 • 39 mins
It's The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob discuss if the Milwaukee Bucks' deflating loss to the Miami Heat in Game 1 proves that Giannis Antetokounmpo is not yet a go-to postseason player at this stage in his career, and tell us why New Orleans Saints running back Alvin Kamara has every right to be upset about his contract situation given the fact that backup quarterback Taysom Hill got a big payday this offseason. Plus, Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas swings by to discuss the NBA Playoffs, explain why James Harden and Kawhi Leonard have a lot more in common than you'd think, and much more!
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be a lot of fun. What's up, mister Parker, how
are you? I'm doing great. Don't forget a little later
on in the program. It's a trash talking Tuesday, so
say it would say it like you mean it. Let's go.
We got to show the duke. Do it? Do I
have to do it, I'll do it. You do it
if you want to hear me do it trash talking, jeez,
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I'm trying to do it like you do. But uh, yes,
you can call it in the third hour to show
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nine thirty five ish Eastern. All right, rob let's get
into it. Obviously. It is the NBA's world right now,
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and uh, all the eyes are on the playoffs and
we've got the big game to night with people actually
saying it this way, Rob Game seven between Donovan Mitchell
and um uh uh what's his name from Murray? Jamal Murray. Yes,
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I'm slipping my mind Donovan Mitchell and Jamal Murray. He
wasn't a star until last week, so I get a
little bit. Well, I'll be I've known of him, obviously
they're saying it that way instead of the Nuggets versus
the Jazz. But um anyway, we had another big game
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yesterday with the Milwaukee Bucks and the Miami Heat, and
Rob I was on with Skipping Shannon this morning and
um on undisputed, and all three of us picked the Bucks.
I picked them in seven. Skip picked them in seven.
I don't know if Shannon's was six or seven, but
I said that I I was very tempted, very close
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to pick in Miami. I guess maybe kind of like
last year when I picked the Dodgers to beat the Nationals,
and Uh felt like I should pick the Nationals. Who
you hegitated the boy I was. I hesitated. I didn't
go with it, Skip, and Skip said the same thing,
like he wanted to pick Miami, but at the last
minute he's stuck with Milwaukee. You're a guy that's been
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confident in the BUD. I don't have them reaching the finals.
I got Toronto reaching the finals. Now, obviously Toronto's got
these hands full. With they lose tonight, they're gonna be
in trouble. Yeah, they ain't there in deep trouble. If
they lose tonight, it'd be hard hard for him to
come back down oh two against Boston to thinking about, Yeah,
what are you thinking about Milwaukee after last night's game? No,
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you know what we I saw them after they lost
Game one to Orlando, and people just panicked. I got
all kinds of Texas from friends. I told you they're
not that good, blah blah. You know, like it's just
when they don't win, Chris, and you look at the
team and you look at what Jannis can do and
what he can't do, and then the the supporting cast
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when they when they don't win, it's easy to pick
apart and look at them and say they can't do it,
they can't get there. But then when they when they're
playing right and they're doing what they can do, as
we saw in the last four games against Orlando, right,
then all of a sudden, you go this team is good,
So I get it. It's a weird it's a weird
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picture because when they don't win, there's all kinds of
question marks and you question whether or not they are
as good as they as advertised. But if you look
at what they've been able to do the last two years,
Giannice is going to be the MVP two years in
a row, rightly so and Chris before the pandemic hit.
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Think about where they were statistic why they were putting
together one of the greatest seasons ever put together by
an NBA team, Right, I mean they were, But but
I understand why people have reservations. I'm just going to
say that, yes, they still have what they have, It
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still fits together when it works. I still believe in
Janice to get them there. I'm picking the Clippers to
win the championship. So I don't think that they're gonna
win the championship. But unlike last year when they were
up two old against Toronto and then lost four in
a row, I believe that they can get out of
the East and get to the finals. Well, anybody that
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thought that they were gonna lose to the Magic or
even people that I'm just saying people went crazy after
they lost Game one, right, which is ridiculous. I mean,
I knew they'd come right back and win the next
four games. I'm sure we said that on the air.
But I do think the Bucks have some problems. Now again,
I'll stick with my pick that they'll get past Miami.
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But there they remind me Rob of those last two
teams in Cleveland with Lebron but before he went to Miami.
Remember they won sixty six games in OH nine sixty
one in twenty ten and never reached the finals because
they were built. It was all Lebron and you looked
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at his support and Moe Williams, the second guys, the
Junus Hill Goalscauz, Anton Jamison like. It reminds me of
what I see in Milwaukee. Eric Bledsoe, who I know
didn't play last night with injury, but he should be back.
Chris Middleton, Kyle Korver. That's a challenge, especially when your
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main guy does not have a go to move like
they didn't play many close games. They played five games
within three or fewer points, which was less than any
other team in the playoffs, because as you said, they
were blowing everybody out. But when you watch him in
close games. Most teams, I'm giving it to Kauai. I'm
giving it to k D. I'm giving it to Steph,
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I'm giving it to Damian Lillard, Lebron who you know,
like you got that guy, Kyrie, I'm giving it to.
And they don't do that with Yannis. They go to
bad movement. And if you didn't sometimes, if you didn't know,
if you just turned on their game late in the game,
fourth quarter, close game and you didn't know Yannis was
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this superstar, you wouldn't you. He wouldn't stand out because
they go to bald movement and just whoever's open takes
the open shot because Yannis can't create like his own
shot other than that straight line drive. And what teams
are doing, what Miami's doing, is they're stopping him from
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getting in transition for the most part, and then they
wall off the paint. He doesn't have that straight line drive,
so he's not gonna hit the jumper consistently, you know who.
It's kind of like remember Lebron in two thousand and
seven against the Spurs in the finals. It's kind of
like that. Now Yannis will keep working his Jay has
gotten much better. But at this point that's a major problem.
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You know, she shoot him from three because two something
like that, I mean thirty four, you know, and he
can hit it here and there. Because but if you're
looking at that confident, I'll give you. I'll give you
that shot almost every time. Oh yeah, that's what you
want to take, if you want to take that. So
watching last shot this year from three, which is a
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huge improvement because last year it was even worse. It
was twenty five percent last year. Yeah, but yeah, if
I mean, I wouldn't even live with him taking sixteen
seventeen footers. So I think what Milwaukee's gonna have to
do rob is get him like they're gonna have to
come up with some creative stuff. I wouldn't have him
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bringing the ball up late. I would have him off
the ball and run some screens from him, flash across
the paint to one side of the post or to
the elbow to get the ball moving and then he's
still in the paint and he can put up a
shot in there. But this you know, they're gonna have
him just dribble and try to go one of those
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drives to the basket against three defenders. It's I don't
think it's gonna work even if they get past this round.
I think, you know, they're facing some good coaches, either
Nick Nurse or Brad Stevens, so they're gonna have their
hands full. Yeah, they will. And I think it's always
the case. Again, I think there's always an overreaction. And
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when you look at him and all your points are
all valid, they just are. But it hasn't stopped him
from being able to dominate. And when knock on wood,
you know it's not official back to back MVPs and
being able to do what he's been able to do.
If it's so easy, like you talk about, then he
should be stopped during the regular year. And I know
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playoffs are a little different, Chris, I know that. And
you don't play the same defense. You know. The playoffs
are about more half court right and getting stops. You
know that, and you know it's totally different. I do
get that. I'm not and he's not great. I mean,
And here's the thing, right, because when they won the
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first two games last year against Toronto, go back and
read all the stuff about about them before they lost,
you know what I mean, Like like it was like
some they were crowning him. Do you remember. I mean
it was like, oh, this guy can't be stopped. Like
young years, They're gonna have a dynasty going on in
middle I was like, well, can they win the series
for us? Right right? And I got a lot of
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texts and I'm sure you did that. Old This has
proven he shouldn't have been the MVP. If they live
with this series, he's not the MVP. Stop it all right.
I'm a voter. I voted for him the last two years.
Let me say this loud, and those are good. Yes,
it is a regular season award. If we want to
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include the playoffs, we don't need an MVP. Just give it.
It's the finals MVP, right right. You wouldn't need a
regular season MVP. And that's why the voters before the season. Yes,
and it doesn't count in the playoffs. And you can't
pooh poo a guy for what he did during the
regular season. That's what it is. If you want to
say he got shown up in the playoffs, that's Elijah
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Wan outplayed David Robinson when Robinson was MVP. Yeah, that's fine,
but that doesn't nullify that a guy deserved the MVP
in the regular season. Steve Nash never even got to
the finals and he won two back to back. Yeah,
you know it happened, so dark Niviski. You remember the
year he won MVP and they got beat in the
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first round, and so it happens it. Remember it's a
regular season award. This has nothing to do with who
who wins the MVP, because nobody's saying the MVP is
the best player in the world. Steve Nash was never
the best player in the world. I don't think it
was ever even in the conversation for best chance you
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should have won one of those MVPs. I think it
was the second one. Well, so a lot of people
thought Shot should have won that second one. Um, but yeah,
I wonder where Chauncey was the voting. But Chauncey had
a great year that that was or something I thought
it was a year after they won. No, it might
have been on five, right, it might have been that.
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I think so because I remember him playing against Nash
and going off. But anyway, all right, all right, eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox? Did Game one prove
that Yannis is not a go to postseason player at
this point in his career? We will continue the conversation
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threw it out to you guys eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox. Did Game one prove that Yannis is
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not yet ready to carry a team? And let me
say this, Rob, I uh, last week I was speaking
with a Hall of Fame player who's still involved with
the league. He said he doesn't think he think Yannis
is actually a number two on, you know, on the
championship team because of that lack of a go to shot.
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And it might sound crazy initially, but would you agree.
I think Anthony Davis is a second guy. You know. Yeah, no,
I'm as great as he is. It appears that way
because he only got what in seven years to the
second round one time, so so yeah, there's a lot
of He had his own team. And when you're a
big guy, though, you got to rely on people getting
you the ball. It's a little different, which is the
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difference with Yannis because he can obviously get in himself,
but he's got to work most guys. You're absolutely right,
Shock and Richmond, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What you got, Shocked? What's going on? Uncle? Rob?
And pastor Christmas going on? Brother? How are you much?
Not much? I'm doing good Man's trying to survived like
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everybody else, you know, right right, Um, Yeah, but I
think I actually got a homie that's a heat saying.
I've been telling him for months, like I think and
match up world with the Bucks. I actually picked the
heat the one in seven. And I don't think I
think Yannis he has to either get I would just
start in the mid range man or at least the post,
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because like if he doesn't have like a free lane
to the basket where he getting like euro stuff and dump, like,
he's not very good to be honest, in the half court.
He's just kind of out here. And I give you
a reason why. I say that's not just based on
last night, but you remember that a couple of weeks
back when they played the Rockets, and like, you know,
the Rockets don't have anybody taller than six five on
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the quarter at any time, and he got the ball
in the post and he just kept kicking it out.
I'm like, damn, Like this guy really doesn't have like,
you know, any offensive game. Like if he's not running
up and down the court, you know, no, he needs
to be coming downhill. And that's and here's the thing too,
and Rob, Look, people and a lot of players are
in this category. They act like, if you're a perimeter guy,
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you can't also work on your post game. Like you
didn't work on your post game? Why not? Michael Jordan,
Kobe Bryant obviously great perimeter players, but also had a
post game. Gary Payton rob post game. I mean, you
can do both. Work on the three point or all
you want, but also go down there and develop some
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post moves. It's not difficult. And the harder and the
more you do, the harder it is to defend you, right,
But just it's real simple. Hey Luca and Baltimore, you're
on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Luca? Hey,
what's going on? Guys? Man? Good to be back. Um No,
I mean, I don't think that last night proved anything
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because all the different ways that the heat stopped your honest,
you know, is nothing new. We've seen this movie before
and what what what gives me pause about not just him,
but you know the Milwaukee Bucks at large is that
you know, obviously there's no go to guy and if
it's if the ball is on the honest, he is
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just dribbling and dribbling and waiting until the shot clock
is down until nine or eight and then just puts
his head down and causes and an offensive foul. And
I mean even in the post. You know, he doesn't
have a great post game. So large picture, you know,
big picture is all the questions that we had about
Yannis last year are largely unanswered, saying this year, this year.
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So that's all I have to say, thank you, true,
he's until you prove it, those questions are gonna be there.
Well well, yeah, if they get to the finals or
whatever it is, I think people will have a different
Lookdill Well, he will have had to have played well
in order for the Bucks to get there, so people
can look at it that way. How about Max in Georgia?
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What's up? Match you on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio? What's up, my guys? Hey, what's up? I
love this matchup? I love this series. I think are
we witnessing possibly James Harden of the East. You know,
guy kills it during the season, but playoffs he's limited
by his abilities. Is this an indictment on the European
style altogether? You know, you get physical with a guy,
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you get his first option off his mind, and but
the chips fall. You know, I think it's kind of
the same way Kawhi kind of seems to haunt Lebron.
I think Butler kind of haunting Yannis. The matchups favor
the heat. I love Butler's motor, his leadership, his ability
to close out games. I mean that fifteen points in
less than six seconds or six minutes. That was straight filthy.
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And I love how we got pat Riley's effort and energy.
I love it. Well, Look, Butler, he's been a perfect
fit in Miami. And he was a headache in Philly,
headache in Minnesota, headache even in Chicago toward the end,
but a perfect fit in Miami. Still might the still
might be one player away. I'm not there yet, you
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know what I mean. Championship finals. Yeah, yeah, one more
player and I think they would be there all right.
Last one, Marty, Marty in Kentucky, you're on the odd couple,
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Marty? What's up? Bell? That's
been a how's river doing? All rivers doing good? He's
got a birthday coming in seven days. He's ouxded. How
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will he be eight? He will? He returned six years old. Six. Wow,
that's awesome. He looks tall in those videos he does.
I thought he was seven I really did. I didn't know.
I'm six five and my wife's family called, did you
play ball? I played high school ball, with my attitude
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kept me from playing any further. Who got six? Well, yeah,
go ahead, Marty, what's your point? I hope the River
will be more mature play ball, But um um, I
feel like that the Buck and Yanni for one step
of way from from Yannis wreaking at next level and
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I go this way a lot. But it's student Hadger.
He doesn't a judge. They make these juts in the playoffs,
Yannas lack of he fisted outside shooting, and he makes
no adjustment back. I don't. I don't accomplim this guy.
He got rattled by Drake's last year, and and and
he was coach of the year last year, Chris right, right,
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And remember in Atlanta when they had that sixty win
season and then got swept by Cleveland with Lebron remember
that sold out. Yeah, some people are watching Budenholzer too.
He's a obviously a really good regular season coach, but
if you want to make adjustments, he might wand up
being a Mike D'Antoni who can't get it done. You know,
I mean, like like in the postseason, you gotta make adjustments.
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All right, we have got, as I said, one of
my favorite guys in all of the NBA family, Hall
of Famer, two time NBA Champion, NBA TV analysts, now
much more than that too, our man, Isaiah Thomas Zeke,
what's up? Man? I am good. How you brothers doing?
We're doing good. We didn't have an update, Chris. What happened?
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We'll get to that later. Oh, I ain't think it's nothing.
I don't want you on, but they changing the show
on me. I'm like, what is going on? Okay, I'm
a quarterback in this thing. I'm quarterback. I just want
to know. I just want to know we're good. That
is great, y'all. Yeah, definitely, y'all definitely should take that
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and rewind it and Classic Radio there for real? Are
you know us both? You know, couple for real? But
we were talking about Milwaukee, Isaiah and I look at Yannest.
I voted for him MVP twice at all. Yeah, I
think he deserved it as a regular season award, but
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I think at this point in his career he doesn't
have a go to move and once you cut off
that lane. Shoot, you'll give him the jumper all day.
And I think that's a big problem for Milwaukee. Talk
about it from their team standpoint, and just are we
correct in that assessment of his game. I think you
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know you Uh, I would say that their offensive style
UH is conducive to the way he wants to play
UM and what makes him effective. So when you when
you say he doesn't have a go to move, UM,
I do believe he has a plethora of moves, but
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not necessarily. I guess his go to move would be
the dunk, like like shacks go to move was the dunk. UM.
And now I think offensively, um, the way all teams
are playing right now, everyone is really playing from the
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three point line, So there there isn't much creativity that
that really goes into the offensive schemes of teams. So
when you talk about you know, passing, moving, cutting, you
know basically everybody's standing in five spots. You're always be
able to find your man there. You're gonna have two
men in the corner, You're gonna have two on the
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wings and one up tops. So even if you get
lost defensively, just one running those five spots and and
you're in perfect defensive position because there's not a lot
of movement. There's there's dribble drive, and then there's there's
driving kick, and that is the offense nowadays. So we
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can't blame a lot of that on Yannis because when
Miami cuts down those driving lanes, then he has to kick.
And when he kicks, you know, Miami is quick enough
to recover to those three point shots, which makes it difficult, Isaiah.
The Raptors are leading the Celtics today, uh stilling the
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third quarter, so it's still a long way to go,
but if they Some people are picking the Raptors to
come out of the East, including Chris Bussard. Are you
surprised that that you know, no Kauai and what happened
last year in the championship, that they have the potentially
get back to the finals this time without Kauai. I'm
also picking the Raptors to come out. Look at you see,
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he just take a job at me. I know you earned,
I know you were the first GM up there and
I youre still close to your heart, but come on,
really well so so Rob, let me tell you why
I'm picking them to come out. I'm picking them because
they they have what we call know how, They know
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how to win. They play well together, they have great chemistry,
and although they don't have a superstar that you would say,
you know, is a one eight or one B, right,
but but they have they have ten one bees and
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they don't have a one A, but they got ten
one bees. And so when you look at them from
a team standpoint, they're solid in every area. And then
they've gone through the war, so they've they've lost the heartbreakers,
you know, um, you know, to coming up to the playoffs.
So they're old school Eastern Conference team that had to wait.
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They turn lose to Cleveland, get knocked out, cal Lowry,
having you know, bad series in the playoffs, coming back,
you know, all these question marks that have been around
them for years, and then they rose to the top
and won the championship. And I think even though without Kauai,
I still think that they're the best team in the East. Now.
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They may not have the best player, but in terms
of a team, I don't think there's a better team
right now than the Raptors Hall of Fame. Isaiah Thomas
joined in the Eye couple. Isaiah, we were talking yesterday.
Obviously we're all watching Jamal Murray and Donovan Mitchell and
we saw Damian Lillard. You know, all these point guards
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putting up these huge numbers, and we're not taking anything
away from I think the handles that they have nowadays
are crazy, and they let them carry, so that's a
big part of it. But handles are crazy. The range
they shoot with is unprecedented. But I wanted to just
ask you this. If you were playing in the NBA
and there was no hand checking and the entire floor
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was spread in space, and you know, there's really no
bigs in the lane when you we always talk about this,
you Jordan, just anybody playing in that era when you
went into the paint, there's like six or seven dudes
in there, you know, and now people like like, if
one or two guys is in the paint, you can't drive.
So talk about the difference in you playing in your
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era and today's points. We're saying, Look, they're great players,
don't We're not taking out away from them, but so
much the game is so different. They dominate the ball
that that's a big reason these numbers are where they're
at with these guys. So I would go back to
the coaching and also the schemes of the teams in
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terms of their rules. Right, so the rule playing the
rute definitely favors the guards. If you are six five
and under, all the rutes favor you now, whereas when
I played, all the rutes were really against you and
they favored the six seven and above player. So now
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when you when you look at the offensive systems that
teams run, they're they're they're not trying to get closer
to the basket astually. Actually, the further away from the
basket you are, the more rewarded you are, and the
more your your team talks about facing and everything else. Now,
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so offensively, there's not a lot of you know, down screens,
cross screens, flare screens, back screens. There's absolutely none of
that which allowed you to get closer to the basket
right now. It's just like again, you stand in those
five spots and you have to be skilled enough to
shoot from those five spots or triple between your legs
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and get to the basket. So you really only need
to master three skills now. Offensively to be great as
a basketball player. You have to have the three point shot,
you have to have the layout and be a good
file shooter, where when I was playing, you had to
have maybe ten things that you knew how to do
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to be a good offensive player. Last night, some people
were saying that it didn't look like James Harden was
interested in closing the game, didn't have the ball enough
at and what did you make of that ending for
Houston against Okayseye last night? To me, James Harden is
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a person as as a player that you know at
the end of the game, Um, I think he wants
to be needed. And what I mean by that is
he wants the coach to say give it to James, right,
And I don't think James has the personality and to say, Okay,
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give me the ball. I think he's I think he's
a what would you call it, You know, he's a
nice guy. And then I think he's a respectful I
think he's a respectful talent out on the floor, even
though he's a dominant talent. I think he's respectful to
his teammates. So at the end of the game, that
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coach has got to put that ball in his hands
and then he'll go do his thing. And I think
Kawhi Leonard is the same way to be to be
honest with you. I don't think Kawhi is one of
them guys who are saying, hey, give me the ball
at the end of the game, and everybody moved out
of the way. Now, if the coach designs the plan,
say Kauhi, it's your show, he'll he'll go with it.
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And I think James Harden is the same way. Yeah,
especially with Westbrook being such a strong personality too. I
think Durant had a similar problem. You know, we're telling
Westbrook give me the rock. He wanted the coach to
do it, and they never did. Yeah, and and and
and so we we are criticizing, like the guys like Durant,
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hardened U, Kauai, even sometimes Lebron, we we criticize them
for being coachable, whereas we we applaud like, Okay, I
watched the Last Dance with Jordan right, and it's like,
give me the ball, everybody else out the way. We
applaud that attitude, and sometimes that's not coachable. But the
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guys who are coachable, and you know, those are the
guys that sometimes get criticized because they're not old let
me take over, you know. And and and I think
I was the same way with Dumars and Vinny and
and Lamb beers like we get. We would come down
to the end and we would be in a huddle,
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and if somebody had it going, it was like, okay, Chuck,
Chuck felt free enough to design a play for anybody
to come off and score. But if I was so
demanding in my personality, I wouldn't have Chuck wouldn't have
had the freedom to think clearly enough to diagram or
(32:47):
play for anybody but me, you know, And you don't
want your coach feeling that way, right right? Well, Isaiah,
you I mean, you do a lot of things people
don't know about. You got your doctorate um and you
also own a champagne company, Shirland Champagne. Can you tell
us about that? How you got involved in that? As
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I love champagne, old man, I noticed that. Good. I'm
the largest owner importer. I'm the largest owner African American
importer of champagne in the world right now. Wow. And
that is Sherlin Champagne got two hundred acres over in
the Old Region of Champagne, which is the oldest region
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of Champagne with the fitsical Champagne of the NBA players.
So you all the NBA players are partners with us,
so you see us sending out them the birthday wishes
and the champagne is down in the bubble with the
fitsical Champagne of the Phoenix Sun who are in the
bubble in the champagne when they celebrate after they win
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it that champagne champagne when they're you know, that's what
we're working on now hoping that we can uh you know,
that could be the champagne of choice. Here's the champagne,
the traice for the players. They definitely will be celebrating
with it. Um the now when we when we look
at where we've been sold. You can go to our
(34:11):
website shairline dot com and you can order directly from
from our website shairline dot com and we can deliver
it to you. Or you can go into your supermarkets
and when the mayors, when the Kroger's, when plumb markets
and different stories like that. So um when all the
(34:31):
fries out in Phoenix. So you can go to your
local supermarket ask for it, or you can go right
to the website. YEA Sirlin Champagne c H E U
R L I N S Hey, whenever I covered sports
and I was there, some team was winning the championship
and I was in the locker room. I always kept
my mouth open during that celebration, was trying to get
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as much free chef. There's a great shot if you
guys ever get it. It is a great shot of
me the date when they're pouring the champagne on the trophy,
right and I'm literally licking the champagne. Don't waste that. Yeah,
everybody was like, Oh, he's so happy, He's so happy,
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He's so happy. One I was like, no, this champagne.
I'm a champagne drink. I could drink champagne all night.
Love it. I can't wait to taste of Isaiah. Great
luck that man, Isaiah time is Hall of Famer man.
Thanks a lot, brother, We appreciate it. Hey, you welcome
and good luck to you guys. Probably all right, all right,
brother peace. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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the Pro Bowl running back for the New Orleans Saints,
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is reportedly sitting out training camp at Disclose for him. Yeah,
and and look, he's making two He's in the last
year of his rookie deal. He's gonna make two point
one million this year and he wants more. And um
I look from a business standpoint, I get where the
(36:45):
owners are coming from. You know, they they you know
you got him for two million dollars. You want to
try to maximize it. And they have a lopsided CBA
CHRISZ so they take advantage, right, I mean that right?
Get it? Yep? I get it from their perspective. And
a lot of running backs have proven, even great ones
like I mean Kareem Hunt. They haven't missed the beat
(37:06):
with him in Kansas City, you know, he was looking
like an Alvin Kamara himself years ago. So the positions
become for the most part, not entirely, but for the
most part, you can get a lot of There's a
lot of great running backs out there you can get
on the cheap. But here's where the problem to me
goes for the Saints. They gave Taysom Hill a two year,
(37:31):
twenty one million dollar deal, a guy that is a backup.
There is no way he is more valuable to your team,
not even close as Alvin Kamara. And so that I'm sure,
and I'm not suggesting Kamara has a problem with Taysom Hill,
but I'm sure he is looking looking at that and saying,
(37:53):
you gotta pay me. I don't want to hear a thing.
You just paid this guy who hardly plays eleven million dollars.
They had money for him, right, You got no money
for me. Nah. And and you know, fair or not,
we know how it runs, how it goes for the
running backs that those guys are gonna be in trouble,
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Chris if they don't get paid sooner than later, because
the longer they wait than they say, oh well, your
yards percarry went down. The last year or so. You know,
they're not as good as it was and all that
after he didn't churned out five years for you, and
you know what I mean and what he is because
of his least productive year. He wasn't a bad year
by any stuff, but you know what I mean, right, Yeah,
(38:36):
and they're gonna look though your last two years you
haven't been as productive yet. Now I totally get where
he's at. I totally get and especially we takesom Hill situation. Yeah,
the system is just not set up for a running back.
It really, it really hurts them. Of all the players
in the NFL, it's a unique situation and it's not fair.
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But but you've seen McCaffrey got paid, got big, Ronnie. Right,
I don't know, you know, a bad team. I was
gonna ask you, like, Web, did I miss something? What
super Bowl were they do? You know what I mean?
Like you could put on he put up numbers, Chris,
they didn't win, didn't mean a thing. Yes, I'm with you.
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And now Joe Cina Anderson our friends. She's reporting that
the Saints are open to trade in Kamara. So where
would be a mistakes? It would because they I don't
see anybody on that roster that can replace him. Now,
if they get a guy, look, I get it, Like
I said, Kareem Hunt, they replaced him easily, but I
don't see a guy currently on their roster. And this
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is your chance. Taysom Hill is a nice change of
pace guy, come in and surprise you. But a steady
diet of him, I don't think he'll be nearly as good.
So that's an interesting thing to watch in New Orleans.
Could open the door even more for Tom Brady and
those Buccaneers to rob Parker's dismay keep it locked.
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We got to show the duke. Do it? Do I
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if you want to hear me do it trash talking, jeez,
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nine thirty five ish Eastern. All right, rob let's get
into it. Obviously. It is the NBA's world right now,
(02:42):
and uh, all the eyes are on the playoffs and
we've got the big game to night with people actually
saying it this way, Rob Game seven between Donovan Mitchell
and um uh uh what's his name from Murray? Jamal Murray. Yes,
(03:04):
I'm slipping my mind Donovan Mitchell and Jamal Murray. He
wasn't a star until last week, so I get a
little bit. Well, I'll be I've known of him, obviously
they're saying it that way instead of the Nuggets versus
the Jazz. But um anyway, we had another big game
(03:25):
yesterday with the Milwaukee Bucks and the Miami Heat, and
Rob I was on with Skipping Shannon this morning and
um on undisputed, and all three of us picked the Bucks.
I picked them in seven. Skip picked them in seven.
I don't know if Shannon's was six or seven, but
I said that I I was very tempted, very close
(03:48):
to pick in Miami. I guess maybe kind of like
last year when I picked the Dodgers to beat the Nationals,
and Uh felt like I should pick the Nationals. Who
you hegitated the boy I was. I hesitated. I didn't
go with it, Skip, and Skip said the same thing,
like he wanted to pick Miami, but at the last
minute he's stuck with Milwaukee. You're a guy that's been
(04:11):
confident in the BUD. I don't have them reaching the finals.
I got Toronto reaching the finals. Now, obviously Toronto's got
these hands full. With they lose tonight, they're gonna be
in trouble. Yeah, they ain't there in deep trouble. If
they lose tonight, it'd be hard hard for him to
come back down oh two against Boston to thinking about, Yeah,
what are you thinking about Milwaukee after last night's game? No,
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you know what we I saw them after they lost
Game one to Orlando, and people just panicked. I got
all kinds of Texas from friends. I told you they're
not that good, blah blah. You know, like it's just
when they don't win, Chris, and you look at the
team and you look at what Jannis can do and
what he can't do, and then the the supporting cast
(04:56):
when they when they don't win, it's easy to pick
apart and look at them and say they can't do it,
they can't get there. But then when they when they're
playing right and they're doing what they can do, as
we saw in the last four games against Orlando, right,
then all of a sudden, you go this team is good,
So I get it. It's a weird it's a weird
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picture because when they don't win, there's all kinds of
question marks and you question whether or not they are
as good as they as advertised. But if you look
at what they've been able to do the last two years,
Giannice is going to be the MVP two years in
a row, rightly so and Chris before the pandemic hit.
(05:42):
Think about where they were statistic why they were putting
together one of the greatest seasons ever put together by
an NBA team, Right, I mean they were, But but
I understand why people have reservations. I'm just going to
say that, yes, they still have what they have, It
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still fits together when it works. I still believe in
Janice to get them there. I'm picking the Clippers to
win the championship. So I don't think that they're gonna
win the championship. But unlike last year when they were
up two old against Toronto and then lost four in
a row, I believe that they can get out of
the East and get to the finals. Well, anybody that
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thought that they were gonna lose to the Magic or
even people that I'm just saying people went crazy after
they lost Game one, right, which is ridiculous. I mean,
I knew they'd come right back and win the next
four games. I'm sure we said that on the air.
But I do think the Bucks have some problems. Now again,
I'll stick with my pick that they'll get past Miami.
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But there they remind me Rob of those last two
teams in Cleveland with Lebron but before he went to Miami.
Remember they won sixty six games in OH nine sixty
one in twenty ten and never reached the finals because
they were built. It was all Lebron and you looked
(07:08):
at his support and Moe Williams, the second guys, the
Junus Hill Goalscauz, Anton Jamison like. It reminds me of
what I see in Milwaukee. Eric Bledsoe, who I know
didn't play last night with injury, but he should be back.
Chris Middleton, Kyle Korver. That's a challenge, especially when your
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main guy does not have a go to move like
they didn't play many close games. They played five games
within three or fewer points, which was less than any
other team in the playoffs, because as you said, they
were blowing everybody out. But when you watch him in
close games. Most teams, I'm giving it to Kauai. I'm
giving it to k D. I'm giving it to Steph,
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I'm giving it to Damian Lillard, Lebron who you know,
like you got that guy, Kyrie, I'm giving it to.
And they don't do that with Yannis. They go to
bad movement. And if you didn't sometimes, if you didn't know,
if you just turned on their game late in the game,
fourth quarter, close game and you didn't know Yannis was
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this superstar, you wouldn't you. He wouldn't stand out because
they go to bald movement and just whoever's open takes
the open shot because Yannis can't create like his own
shot other than that straight line drive. And what teams
are doing, what Miami's doing, is they're stopping him from
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getting in transition for the most part, and then they
wall off the paint. He doesn't have that straight line drive,
so he's not gonna hit the jumper consistently, you know who.
It's kind of like remember Lebron in two thousand and
seven against the Spurs in the finals. It's kind of
like that. Now Yannis will keep working his Jay has
gotten much better. But at this point that's a major problem.
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You know, she shoot him from three because two something
like that, I mean thirty four, you know, and he
can hit it here and there. Because but if you're
looking at that confident, I'll give you. I'll give you
that shot almost every time. Oh yeah, that's what you
want to take, if you want to take that. So
watching last shot this year from three, which is a
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huge improvement because last year it was even worse. It
was twenty five percent last year. Yeah, but yeah, if
I mean, I wouldn't even live with him taking sixteen
seventeen footers. So I think what Milwaukee's gonna have to
do rob is get him like they're gonna have to
come up with some creative stuff. I wouldn't have him
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bringing the ball up late. I would have him off
the ball and run some screens from him, flash across
the paint to one side of the post or to
the elbow to get the ball moving and then he's
still in the paint and he can put up a
shot in there. But this you know, they're gonna have
him just dribble and try to go one of those
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drives to the basket against three defenders. It's I don't
think it's gonna work even if they get past this round.
I think, you know, they're facing some good coaches, either
Nick Nurse or Brad Stevens, so they're gonna have their
hands full. Yeah, they will. And I think it's always
the case. Again, I think there's always an overreaction. And
(10:22):
when you look at him and all your points are
all valid, they just are. But it hasn't stopped him
from being able to dominate. And when knock on wood,
you know it's not official back to back MVPs and
being able to do what he's been able to do.
If it's so easy, like you talk about, then he
should be stopped during the regular year. And I know
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playoffs are a little different, Chris, I know that. And
you don't play the same defense. You know. The playoffs
are about more half court right and getting stops. You
know that, and you know it's totally different. I do
get that. I'm not and he's not great. I mean,
And here's the thing, right, because when they won the
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first two games last year against Toronto, go back and
read all the stuff about about them before they lost,
you know what I mean, Like like it was like
some they were crowning him. Do you remember. I mean
it was like, oh, this guy can't be stopped. Like
young years, They're gonna have a dynasty going on in
middle I was like, well, can they win the series
for us? Right right? And I got a lot of
(11:25):
texts and I'm sure you did that. Old This has
proven he shouldn't have been the MVP. If they live
with this series, he's not the MVP. Stop it all right.
I'm a voter. I voted for him the last two years.
Let me say this loud, and those are good. Yes,
it is a regular season award. If we want to
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include the playoffs, we don't need an MVP. Just give it.
It's the finals MVP, right right. You wouldn't need a
regular season MVP. And that's why the voters before the season. Yes,
and it doesn't count in the playoffs. And you can't
pooh poo a guy for what he did during the
regular season. That's what it is. If you want to
say he got shown up in the playoffs, that's Elijah
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Wan outplayed David Robinson when Robinson was MVP. Yeah, that's fine,
but that doesn't nullify that a guy deserved the MVP
in the regular season. Steve Nash never even got to
the finals and he won two back to back. Yeah,
you know it happened, so dark Niviski. You remember the
year he won MVP and they got beat in the
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first round, and so it happens it. Remember it's a
regular season award. This has nothing to do with who
who wins the MVP, because nobody's saying the MVP is
the best player in the world. Steve Nash was never
the best player in the world. I don't think it
was ever even in the conversation for best chance you
(12:55):
should have won one of those MVPs. I think it
was the second one. Well, so a lot of people
thought Shot should have won that second one. Um, but yeah,
I wonder where Chauncey was the voting. But Chauncey had
a great year that that was or something I thought
it was a year after they won. No, it might
have been on five, right, it might have been that.
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I think so because I remember him playing against Nash
and going off. But anyway, all right, all right, eight
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threw it out to you guys eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox. Did Game one prove that Yannis is
(14:46):
not yet ready to carry a team? And let me
say this, Rob, I uh, last week I was speaking
with a Hall of Fame player who's still involved with
the league. He said he doesn't think he think Yannis
is actually a number two on, you know, on the
championship team because of that lack of a go to shot.
(15:06):
And it might sound crazy initially, but would you agree.
I think Anthony Davis is a second guy. You know. Yeah, no,
I'm as great as he is. It appears that way
because he only got what in seven years to the
second round one time, so so yeah, there's a lot
of He had his own team. And when you're a
big guy, though, you got to rely on people getting
you the ball. It's a little different, which is the
(15:28):
difference with Yannis because he can obviously get in himself,
but he's got to work most guys. You're absolutely right,
Shock and Richmond, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What you got, Shocked? What's going on? Uncle? Rob?
And pastor Christmas going on? Brother? How are you much?
Not much? I'm doing good Man's trying to survived like
(15:50):
everybody else, you know, right right, Um, Yeah, but I
think I actually got a homie that's a heat saying.
I've been telling him for months, like I think and
match up world with the Bucks. I actually picked the
heat the one in seven. And I don't think I
think Yannis he has to either get I would just
start in the mid range man or at least the post,
(16:12):
because like if he doesn't have like a free lane
to the basket where he getting like euro stuff and dump, like,
he's not very good to be honest, in the half court.
He's just kind of out here. And I give you
a reason why. I say that's not just based on
last night, but you remember that a couple of weeks
back when they played the Rockets, and like, you know,
the Rockets don't have anybody taller than six five on
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the quarter at any time, and he got the ball
in the post and he just kept kicking it out.
I'm like, damn, Like this guy really doesn't have like,
you know, any offensive game. Like if he's not running
up and down the court, you know, no, he needs
to be coming downhill. And that's and here's the thing too,
and Rob, Look, people and a lot of players are
in this category. They act like, if you're a perimeter guy,
(16:57):
you can't also work on your post game. Like you
didn't work on your post game? Why not? Michael Jordan,
Kobe Bryant obviously great perimeter players, but also had a
post game. Gary Payton rob post game. I mean, you
can do both. Work on the three point or all
you want, but also go down there and develop some
(17:18):
post moves. It's not difficult. And the harder and the
more you do, the harder it is to defend you, right,
But just it's real simple. Hey Luca and Baltimore, you're
on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Luca? Hey,
what's going on? Guys? Man? Good to be back. Um No,
I mean, I don't think that last night proved anything
(17:42):
because all the different ways that the heat stopped your honest,
you know, is nothing new. We've seen this movie before
and what what what gives me pause about not just him,
but you know the Milwaukee Bucks at large is that
you know, obviously there's no go to guy and if
it's if the ball is on the honest, he is
(18:04):
just dribbling and dribbling and waiting until the shot clock
is down until nine or eight and then just puts
his head down and causes and an offensive foul. And
I mean even in the post. You know, he doesn't
have a great post game. So large picture, you know,
big picture is all the questions that we had about
Yannis last year are largely unanswered, saying this year, this year.
(18:28):
So that's all I have to say, thank you, true,
he's until you prove it, those questions are gonna be there.
Well well, yeah, if they get to the finals or
whatever it is, I think people will have a different
Lookdill Well, he will have had to have played well
in order for the Bucks to get there, so people
can look at it that way. How about Max in Georgia?
(18:50):
What's up? Match you on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio? What's up, my guys? Hey, what's up? I
love this matchup? I love this series. I think are
we witnessing possibly James Harden of the East. You know,
guy kills it during the season, but playoffs he's limited
by his abilities. Is this an indictment on the European
style altogether? You know, you get physical with a guy,
(19:11):
you get his first option off his mind, and but
the chips fall. You know, I think it's kind of
the same way Kawhi kind of seems to haunt Lebron.
I think Butler kind of haunting Yannis. The matchups favor
the heat. I love Butler's motor, his leadership, his ability
to close out games. I mean that fifteen points in
less than six seconds or six minutes. That was straight filthy.
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And I love how we got pat Riley's effort and energy.
I love it. Well, Look, Butler, he's been a perfect
fit in Miami. And he was a headache in Philly,
headache in Minnesota, headache even in Chicago toward the end,
but a perfect fit in Miami. Still might the still
might be one player away. I'm not there yet, you
(19:53):
know what I mean. Championship finals. Yeah, yeah, one more
player and I think they would be there all right.
Last one, Marty, Marty in Kentucky, you're on the odd couple,
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Marty? What's up? Bell? That's
been a how's river doing? All rivers doing good? He's
got a birthday coming in seven days. He's ouxded. How
(20:15):
will he be eight? He will? He returned six years old. Six. Wow,
that's awesome. He looks tall in those videos he does.
I thought he was seven I really did. I didn't know.
I'm six five and my wife's family called, did you
play ball? I played high school ball, with my attitude
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kept me from playing any further. Who got six? Well, yeah,
go ahead, Marty, what's your point? I hope the River
will be more mature play ball, But um um, I
feel like that the Buck and Yanni for one step
of way from from Yannis wreaking at next level and
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I go this way a lot. But it's student Hadger.
He doesn't a judge. They make these juts in the playoffs,
Yannas lack of he fisted outside shooting, and he makes
no adjustment back. I don't. I don't accomplim this guy.
He got rattled by Drake's last year, and and and
he was coach of the year last year, Chris right, right,
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And remember in Atlanta when they had that sixty win
season and then got swept by Cleveland with Lebron remember
that sold out. Yeah, some people are watching Budenholzer too.
He's a obviously a really good regular season coach, but
if you want to make adjustments, he might wand up
being a Mike D'Antoni who can't get it done. You know,
I mean, like like in the postseason, you gotta make adjustments.
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All right, we have got, as I said, one of
my favorite guys in all of the NBA family, Hall
of Famer, two time NBA Champion, NBA TV analysts, now
much more than that too, our man, Isaiah Thomas Zeke,
what's up? Man? I am good. How you brothers doing?
We're doing good. We didn't have an update, Chris. What happened?
(22:07):
We'll get to that later. Oh, I ain't think it's nothing.
I don't want you on, but they changing the show
on me. I'm like, what is going on? Okay, I'm
a quarterback in this thing. I'm quarterback. I just want
to know. I just want to know we're good. That
is great, y'all. Yeah, definitely, y'all definitely should take that
(22:29):
and rewind it and Classic Radio there for real? Are
you know us both? You know, couple for real? But
we were talking about Milwaukee, Isaiah and I look at Yannest.
I voted for him MVP twice at all. Yeah, I
think he deserved it as a regular season award, but
(22:51):
I think at this point in his career he doesn't
have a go to move and once you cut off
that lane. Shoot, you'll give him the jumper all day.
And I think that's a big problem for Milwaukee. Talk
about it from their team standpoint, and just are we
correct in that assessment of his game. I think you
(23:12):
know you Uh, I would say that their offensive style
UH is conducive to the way he wants to play
UM and what makes him effective. So when you when
you say he doesn't have a go to move, UM,
I do believe he has a plethora of moves, but
(23:35):
not necessarily. I guess his go to move would be
the dunk, like like shacks go to move was the dunk. UM.
And now I think offensively, um, the way all teams
are playing right now, everyone is really playing from the
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three point line, So there there isn't much creativity that
that really goes into the offensive schemes of teams. So
when you talk about you know, passing, moving, cutting, you
know basically everybody's standing in five spots. You're always be
able to find your man there. You're gonna have two
men in the corner, You're gonna have two on the
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wings and one up tops. So even if you get
lost defensively, just one running those five spots and and
you're in perfect defensive position because there's not a lot
of movement. There's there's dribble drive, and then there's there's
driving kick, and that is the offense nowadays. So we
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can't blame a lot of that on Yannis because when
Miami cuts down those driving lanes, then he has to kick.
And when he kicks, you know, Miami is quick enough
to recover to those three point shots, which makes it difficult, Isaiah.
The Raptors are leading the Celtics today, uh stilling the
(24:59):
third quarter, so it's still a long way to go,
but if they Some people are picking the Raptors to
come out of the East, including Chris Bussard. Are you
surprised that that you know, no Kauai and what happened
last year in the championship, that they have the potentially
get back to the finals this time without Kauai. I'm
also picking the Raptors to come out. Look at you see,
(25:22):
he just take a job at me. I know you earned,
I know you were the first GM up there and
I youre still close to your heart, but come on,
really well so so Rob, let me tell you why
I'm picking them to come out. I'm picking them because
they they have what we call know how, They know
(25:44):
how to win. They play well together, they have great chemistry,
and although they don't have a superstar that you would say,
you know, is a one eight or one B, right,
but but they have they have ten one bees and
(26:05):
they don't have a one A, but they got ten
one bees. And so when you look at them from
a team standpoint, they're solid in every area. And then
they've gone through the war, so they've they've lost the heartbreakers,
you know, um, you know, to coming up to the playoffs.
So they're old school Eastern Conference team that had to wait.
(26:29):
They turn lose to Cleveland, get knocked out, cal Lowry,
having you know, bad series in the playoffs, coming back,
you know, all these question marks that have been around
them for years, and then they rose to the top
and won the championship. And I think even though without Kauai,
I still think that they're the best team in the East. Now.
(26:52):
They may not have the best player, but in terms
of a team, I don't think there's a better team
right now than the Raptors Hall of Fame. Isaiah Thomas
joined in the Eye couple. Isaiah, we were talking yesterday.
Obviously we're all watching Jamal Murray and Donovan Mitchell and
we saw Damian Lillard. You know, all these point guards
(27:12):
putting up these huge numbers, and we're not taking anything
away from I think the handles that they have nowadays
are crazy, and they let them carry, so that's a
big part of it. But handles are crazy. The range
they shoot with is unprecedented. But I wanted to just
ask you this. If you were playing in the NBA
and there was no hand checking and the entire floor
(27:36):
was spread in space, and you know, there's really no
bigs in the lane when you we always talk about this,
you Jordan, just anybody playing in that era when you
went into the paint, there's like six or seven dudes
in there, you know, and now people like like, if
one or two guys is in the paint, you can't drive.
So talk about the difference in you playing in your
(27:57):
era and today's points. We're saying, Look, they're great players,
don't We're not taking out away from them, but so
much the game is so different. They dominate the ball
that that's a big reason these numbers are where they're
at with these guys. So I would go back to
the coaching and also the schemes of the teams in
(28:18):
terms of their rules. Right, so the rule playing the
rute definitely favors the guards. If you are six five
and under, all the rutes favor you now, whereas when
I played, all the rutes were really against you and
they favored the six seven and above player. So now
(28:40):
when you when you look at the offensive systems that
teams run, they're they're they're not trying to get closer
to the basket astually. Actually, the further away from the
basket you are, the more rewarded you are, and the
more your your team talks about facing and everything else. Now,
(29:02):
so offensively, there's not a lot of you know, down screens,
cross screens, flare screens, back screens. There's absolutely none of
that which allowed you to get closer to the basket
right now. It's just like again, you stand in those
five spots and you have to be skilled enough to
shoot from those five spots or triple between your legs
(29:26):
and get to the basket. So you really only need
to master three skills now. Offensively to be great as
a basketball player. You have to have the three point shot,
you have to have the layout and be a good
file shooter, where when I was playing, you had to
have maybe ten things that you knew how to do
(29:48):
to be a good offensive player. Last night, some people
were saying that it didn't look like James Harden was
interested in closing the game, didn't have the ball enough
at and what did you make of that ending for
Houston against Okayseye last night? To me, James Harden is
(30:09):
a person as as a player that you know at
the end of the game, Um, I think he wants
to be needed. And what I mean by that is
he wants the coach to say give it to James, right,
And I don't think James has the personality and to say, Okay,
(30:34):
give me the ball. I think he's I think he's
a what would you call it, You know, he's a
nice guy. And then I think he's a respectful I
think he's a respectful talent out on the floor, even
though he's a dominant talent. I think he's respectful to
his teammates. So at the end of the game, that
(30:57):
coach has got to put that ball in his hands
and then he'll go do his thing. And I think
Kawhi Leonard is the same way to be to be
honest with you. I don't think Kawhi is one of
them guys who are saying, hey, give me the ball
at the end of the game, and everybody moved out
of the way. Now, if the coach designs the plan,
say Kauhi, it's your show, he'll he'll go with it.
(31:19):
And I think James Harden is the same way. Yeah,
especially with Westbrook being such a strong personality too. I
think Durant had a similar problem. You know, we're telling
Westbrook give me the rock. He wanted the coach to
do it, and they never did. Yeah, and and and
and so we we are criticizing, like the guys like Durant,
(31:39):
hardened U, Kauai, even sometimes Lebron, we we criticize them
for being coachable, whereas we we applaud like, Okay, I
watched the Last Dance with Jordan right, and it's like,
give me the ball, everybody else out the way. We
applaud that attitude, and sometimes that's not coachable. But the
(32:05):
guys who are coachable, and you know, those are the
guys that sometimes get criticized because they're not old let
me take over, you know. And and and I think
I was the same way with Dumars and Vinny and
and Lamb beers like we get. We would come down
to the end and we would be in a huddle,
(32:26):
and if somebody had it going, it was like, okay, Chuck,
Chuck felt free enough to design a play for anybody
to come off and score. But if I was so
demanding in my personality, I wouldn't have Chuck wouldn't have
had the freedom to think clearly enough to diagram or
(32:47):
play for anybody but me, you know, And you don't
want your coach feeling that way, right right? Well, Isaiah,
you I mean, you do a lot of things people
don't know about. You got your doctorate um and you
also own a champagne company, Shirland Champagne. Can you tell
us about that? How you got involved in that? As
(33:07):
I love champagne, old man, I noticed that. Good. I'm
the largest owner importer. I'm the largest owner African American
importer of champagne in the world right now. Wow. And
that is Sherlin Champagne got two hundred acres over in
the Old Region of Champagne, which is the oldest region
(33:29):
of Champagne with the fitsical Champagne of the NBA players.
So you all the NBA players are partners with us,
so you see us sending out them the birthday wishes
and the champagne is down in the bubble with the
fitsical Champagne of the Phoenix Sun who are in the
bubble in the champagne when they celebrate after they win
(33:49):
it that champagne champagne when they're you know, that's what
we're working on now hoping that we can uh you know,
that could be the champagne of choice. Here's the champagne,
the traice for the players. They definitely will be celebrating
with it. Um the now when we when we look
at where we've been sold. You can go to our
(34:11):
website shairline dot com and you can order directly from
from our website shairline dot com and we can deliver
it to you. Or you can go into your supermarkets
and when the mayors, when the Kroger's, when plumb markets
and different stories like that. So um when all the
(34:31):
fries out in Phoenix. So you can go to your
local supermarket ask for it, or you can go right
to the website. YEA Sirlin Champagne c H E U
R L I N S Hey, whenever I covered sports
and I was there, some team was winning the championship
and I was in the locker room. I always kept
my mouth open during that celebration, was trying to get
(34:54):
as much free chef. There's a great shot if you
guys ever get it. It is a great shot of
me the date when they're pouring the champagne on the trophy,
right and I'm literally licking the champagne. Don't waste that. Yeah,
everybody was like, Oh, he's so happy, He's so happy,
(35:17):
He's so happy. One I was like, no, this champagne.
I'm a champagne drink. I could drink champagne all night.
Love it. I can't wait to taste of Isaiah. Great
luck that man, Isaiah time is Hall of Famer man.
Thanks a lot, brother, We appreciate it. Hey, you welcome
and good luck to you guys. Probably all right, all right,
brother peace. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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the Pro Bowl running back for the New Orleans Saints,
(36:24):
is reportedly sitting out training camp at Disclose for him. Yeah,
and and look, he's making two He's in the last
year of his rookie deal. He's gonna make two point
one million this year and he wants more. And um
I look from a business standpoint, I get where the
(36:45):
owners are coming from. You know, they they you know
you got him for two million dollars. You want to
try to maximize it. And they have a lopsided CBA
CHRISZ so they take advantage, right, I mean that right?
Get it? Yep? I get it from their perspective. And
a lot of running backs have proven, even great ones
like I mean Kareem Hunt. They haven't missed the beat
(37:06):
with him in Kansas City, you know, he was looking
like an Alvin Kamara himself years ago. So the positions
become for the most part, not entirely, but for the
most part, you can get a lot of There's a
lot of great running backs out there you can get
on the cheap. But here's where the problem to me
goes for the Saints. They gave Taysom Hill a two year,
(37:31):
twenty one million dollar deal, a guy that is a backup.
There is no way he is more valuable to your team,
not even close as Alvin Kamara. And so that I'm sure,
and I'm not suggesting Kamara has a problem with Taysom Hill,
but I'm sure he is looking looking at that and saying,
(37:53):
you gotta pay me. I don't want to hear a thing.
You just paid this guy who hardly plays eleven million dollars.
They had money for him, right, You got no money
for me. Nah. And and you know, fair or not,
we know how it runs, how it goes for the
running backs that those guys are gonna be in trouble,
(38:14):
Chris if they don't get paid sooner than later, because
the longer they wait than they say, oh well, your
yards percarry went down. The last year or so. You know,
they're not as good as it was and all that
after he didn't churned out five years for you, and
you know what I mean and what he is because
of his least productive year. He wasn't a bad year
by any stuff, but you know what I mean, right, Yeah,
(38:36):
and they're gonna look though your last two years you
haven't been as productive yet. Now I totally get where
he's at. I totally get and especially we takesom Hill situation. Yeah,
the system is just not set up for a running back.
It really, it really hurts them. Of all the players
in the NFL, it's a unique situation and it's not fair.
(38:56):
But but you've seen McCaffrey got paid, got big, Ronnie. Right,
I don't know, you know, a bad team. I was
gonna ask you, like, Web, did I miss something? What
super Bowl were they do? You know what I mean?
Like you could put on he put up numbers, Chris,
they didn't win, didn't mean a thing. Yes, I'm with you.
(39:16):
And now Joe Cina Anderson our friends. She's reporting that
the Saints are open to trade in Kamara. So where
would be a mistakes? It would because they I don't
see anybody on that roster that can replace him. Now,
if they get a guy, look, I get it, Like
I said, Kareem Hunt, they replaced him easily, but I
don't see a guy currently on their roster. And this
(39:38):
is your chance. Taysom Hill is a nice change of
pace guy, come in and surprise you. But a steady
diet of him, I don't think he'll be nearly as good.
So that's an interesting thing to watch in New Orleans.
Could open the door even more for Tom Brady and
those Buccaneers to rob Parker's dismay keep it locked.
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