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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is up straight Fire? Bam, It's me Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Straight Fire for Monday, September twenty second.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, it was a.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Not a glorious Sunday for your boy. Holy hell. The
football it was bad. It was ugly and the picks
they were not good. This was this is this what
it was? This song Sunday, bloody Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Holy cow. It was bad.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Then then you get dealt total garbage on Sunday Night football,
the borderline and unwatchable Chiefs and the truly unwatchable New
York Giants.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That game stucked. It was just a lot of bad football.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I mean, essentially, this was a rare Sunday with no
Josh Allen, no Joe Burrow he's hurt, No Lamar Jackson
he plays. And Patrick Mahomes is not really must see
TV anymore, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm sorry, he's just not. I mean, Jalen Hurts might be.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I mean, we're gonna have to talk about Jalen Hurts
right here at the outset because I was told by
all the pundits, well, all the Eagles can only win
one way when Jalen Hurts doesn't throw the football. They
just run and run and Toush push and Toush push,
and that's all they can do. And then a funny
thing happened. The Rams walk into Lincoln Financial Field take
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a twenty six to seven lead on Sunday. I'm feeling
good about my plus three and a half. I'm like, oh,
she Rams winning this bad boy outright. They were dominating
and then.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
The Eagles said, oh, oh, Jalen, we need you to
throw the football. And guess what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Everyone, Jalen Hurts was perfectly fine. And remember how aj
Brown was alwa, He's not He's not getting target, he's
getting upset. Six catches, one hundred nine yards touchdown orderline
unguardable for the Rams.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
The Ram secondary is their weak link. They could not
stop Brown.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
DeVante Smith on fourth and ballgame catches the touchdown pass.
Eagles go ahead late, folks, I don't want to hear
it anymore. Let's stop trying to act like the Eagles
aren't the best team in the league. A lot of
people wanted to put the Packers on that pedestal. We'll
get to the Packers. Well, I mean they they pissed
away a ten to nothing lead in the final four
minutes and lost to the Browns. I have a theori
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ast to what happened to Packers are still really good,
but they're not the best. The Eagles right now are
the best team in the league. It's not particularly close
because they can win so many ways. Everybody talks about,
for instance, Jalen Carter. They're amazing defensive beast in the middle.
That's the guy who spit in Dak Prescott's face like
a fool.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
He got tossed. Well, they also have this guy, Jordan Davis.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
And Jordan Davis is his big mammoth nose tackle big
fell out of Georgia six six three thirty. Okay, Jordan
Davis outplayed Jalen Harder for the Eagles on sunny He
was unbelievable. Had a fourth and one stick of Kyrien
Williams that was huge. Then I didn't know he had
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these wheels. Early in the game, Matt Stafford's rolling out
of the pocket feels like he can get there on
third and two, and essentially Jordan Davis beats him to
the spot and Stafford does not get it and the
Rams out the punt. But if you didn't think the
big fella could move. He blocks the Rams game winning
field goal attempt in the waiting seconds, and then every
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single better who had a Rams ticket starts crying because
Jordan Davis decided, I'm not gonna just go down. I'm
gonna take it to the house. And not only do
the Eagles win, but they cover, folks. This is how
dangerous the Eagles are. They can win with defense we
saw in the Super Bowl. Okay, they can win with
the ground game. Saquon Barkley well offensive was he the
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offensive MVP last year? And then they can move with
Jalen Hart's throwing basically anytime they need to.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Saquon Barkley was held to forty six yards on eighteen
team carries.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
He's actually not off to a great start, and I
did see this coming because he had such heavy usage
last year. I'm not saying he's not great, but these
are his rushing totals so far this season. Eighteen for
forty six today yesterday, twenty two for eighty eight against Casey,
eighteen for sixty against Dallas. So he's somewhere in the
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three point three yards per attempt category. He has zero
carries over twenty yards he's not Saquon from last year.
They need to start working in other dudes or he's
gonna have nothing left when it matters, like nobody else
had to carry other than Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley.
I personally do not think that that is sustainable for
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these Eagles. And you know, you needed to win this,
so I kind of understand, Hey, we got it. We
gotta play our studs. But I mean the Eagles the
schedule is extremely difficult. They now go to Tampa. Tampa
has been a bugaboo for them. They they got smashed
in Tampa last year. They visit Tampa which is undefeated,
and all they do is win every game at the Buzzer. Seriously,
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three wins all at the Buzzer. Baker Mayfield just keeps
killing me as I keep betting against him. Although the
Jets did cover this week, which was nice, and then.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The Eagles host Denver.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
They get a respite against the Giants, but actually Giants,
Minnesota Giants, depending on what's up with JJ McCarthy, could
be a decent stretch, but Green Bay, Detroit, Chargers, Buffalo
like this schedule doesn't let up. Listen for now, I
think the Eagles are the best, most complete team in
the league. That being said, we've got a monitor this
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Lane Johnson injury. Anytime he gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
They are not.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Even close to the same team. Lane Johnson is super
important for that team. They've got a great defense. I
know people want to say Sirianni owns McVeigh. I wouldn't
go that far. The Rams looked great for a long
stretch in this game, but the special teams issues for
the Rams for their head, They're not a flawless team.
They had two fourth quarterfield goals block folks two. Okay,
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field goals were one of the big stories in the NFL.
There were nine non offensive touchdowns in Week three, so
on Sunday, the most in a week in five years.
It was a wacky Sunday, Rob and I will say,
I'm not saying the Eagles are gonna win the Super Bowl,
but a nineteen point comeback their biggest comeback wins in
fifteen years against the Rams, was impressive.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
These these were the halftime stats yards two hundred and
twelve to thirty three.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
The Eagles did not have a third down conversion on
the first half. They averaged one point five yards per play,
and then they started passing in the second half, and
lo and behold, rob Jalen Hurts can throw the football.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Are you are you proud of him?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I haven't been one of my fantasy leagues and I
actually considered not starting him, but he's just a must
start every week.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Because the guy's freaking awes.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
How could you not be impressed by Jalen Hurts mentioned it.
They had thirty three total yards on offense. Net passing
yards in the first half was negative one for the
Eagles offense, right because they count the sacks in there.
They were so bad offensively, I mean, they were getting
I was driving around the beach areas watching the game
on my phone and I'm listening to the broadcast on
the radio or the Fox Sports Radio end Zone radio,
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you know, while I'm driving around and they're killing Jalen Hers.
There's people on Twitter say, man, they need to rethink
their office. What they did through the first two weeks
obviously is not sustainable. You can't win like that. You
can't just be run run run, run, run, run, run, run,
field goal run run run run touching thatwn like, you
can't do that. And the first half. They tried, it
didn't work. What they did, though, is they said, hey,
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we have two or one all Pro wide receiver, a
Pro Bowl wide receiver, and an all Pro level quarterback.
We're going to put the ball in his hands and
we're going to show that even though we want a
certain way last year, it is in him to win
it another way. So he goes from negative one passing
yards in the first half in the set second half
alone on pass his ten plus air yards down the
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field seven of nine, one fifty four to two touchdowns. Okay,
on the season, just to give you a heads up,
the first ten quarters, the first two and a half
games before the second half there on Sunday, he had
only completed two of seven on air yards over ten.
So he turned back the clock. He showed you, hey,
even though we're winning this way, if you need me to,
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I can get it done another way. Jalen Hurts finished
the game after having negative one net passing yards in
the first half, two twenty six through the air, forty
on the ground, four total touchdowns. Like the definition of
a great team is being able to win when you
don't have your best stuff, and the Eagles not only
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not their best stuff. They might have been the worst
half of football O seen them play in a year
and a half. They were horrible in the first half offensively.
It was embarrassing. It was the worst thing I'd seen
this side of the New York Giants on Sunday Night football.
And yet they keep play, lugging along, they maintain their composure.
Jalen Hurts for all to talk about him not being
this raw rock guy, the guy who kind of galvanides
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the group. One thing he does do is when they're
up by forty, they're down by forty, doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
He's the same guy.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
And sometimes you need that when things are going bad,
and you need a guy who's going to be a
steady calming prayers that, hey, let's get this first down
and see what happens. Then they get the first Hey,
let's get this field goal, see what happens. Let's get
in the end zone, see what happens. I know we're
downe by three scores, but let's just keep plugging away.
And they keet plugging away, plugging away, And it's punctuated
by the worst bad beat in NFL history. But shout
outs to the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Man, that was a group performance by the brutal beat.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Now, the Rams do deserve a little scrutiny. Okay, you
go up twenty six seven one minute a third and
McVeigh and Stafford can generate zero points after that. But
some of it is, you know, a little unlucky. They
went for on fourth down and Jordan Davis stuffed it
at midfield, and then you know, they get two kicks blocked.
I mean, you don't expect two kicks to get blocked.
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I mean, Pooka had a good game. Stafford had a good,
not amazing game. I think he threw for like a
buck ninety three. He did have the early interception. But
I'm looking explosive plays are one thing I really look at.
Over twenty yards, how is the offense. They had zero
carries over fifteen yards and they had one pass over
twenty yards. I mean, you got to open it up
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and some of these teams. Rob found an amazing stat
that offenses are averaging three hundred and seventeen yards per
game so far this season, the lowest total in twenty years.
And obviously, like some people are instantly well, the kickoff
rules are shrinking the field a little bit. You're not
having to go as far. Yeah, well maybe that's one thing.
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But it looks to me, remember how the league was
so pass happy three years ago, and you got to
pass to win, pass, pass, pass, and we got fay
wide receivers all that. It almost felt like Rob that
everybody started doing the same thing, and now we're getting
the correction from defenses. Whether it's and again, it's too
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early in the season to look deep at this, but
is it. Is it simply are teams playing more too
high take away the big play. Hey, we'll just wait
for you to screw up. We'll wait for somebody to fumble.
I mean, listen, I mean look at the New England Patriots.
They had five turnovers. Yeah, the Falcons just ineptitude offensively.
Pick six's galore. If you just play smart defense and
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you're not too aggressive on the back end and you
don't give up the big play. Teams are not really
that capable of going down the field methodically, Rob, They
just aren't. Whether it's penalties on the offense, I mean,
just dumb mistakes. Look, let's move to the Green Bay Packers,
who everybody a week ago was saying are the best
team in the league, won the Super Bowl and I agree,
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they're one of the best teams in the league. They
lead the Cleveland Browns ten nothing with like six minutes left.
The Browns had done nothing all game. Okay, so then
the Browns kick a field goal and Jordan Love makes
one mistake, one throws an interception.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It was just I don't know what happened.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Terrible.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
You look at the milk o'clock, few first downs ballgame,
throws an interception, they run it back twenty yards or
whatever it is, and next thing you know, Cleveland gets
a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
We're tied, and it's like, holy shit, ten. It was
ten to nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Withix with five minutes left and I was ten ten
so and you're like, okay, Packers got this.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
They go down the field, they line up for the
field goal blocked.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Blocked field?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
So now I'm like, oh my goodness, cause the Browns.
Browns aren't gonna do this. The Browns do it. They
go sixteen yards, they kick a fifty five.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I think the kid is a rookie, and the Browns
stun the Packers again. It was ten to nothing with
four minutes left. They end up losing, So let's not
fall into the narrative trap, right, just like I tried
to preach last week, and.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I try to preach it every week. The Rams field
goal was blocked at the end, they should have won
that game.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
And if they win, then it's well the Eagles, you know,
and we're bashing the Eagles. And now you look at
the Packers and it's like, well, Packers lost. Well again,
if that field goal is not blocked with twenty seconds left,
they win thirteen to ten.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Hang on, no big deal? Three and oh so, Rob,
how do we how do we.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
You and I the audience, how we all do better
and not overreact to some of these results when it
sometimes just feels like a game of flipping a coin.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I mean, yeah, you look no further than the Tapway Buccaneers,
who their game winning plays this so far this season
have happened with fifty nine seconds left, six seconds left,
and zero seconds left. So you know the flukiness of
the NFL right in that regard.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But Denver Broncos two weeks in a row have lost
on a field goal at the buzzer exactly exact Chargers.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So are the Broncos bad at one?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And too?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
So?
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I think, what are they closed to That's a good question.
But I think you got to consider though, is like
is this is sound so cliche? And the process and
how this all happens. Right, So, when the Rams were
up and they were bludgeting the Eagles, we love what
they were doing, and it is all concerned about whether or
not the Eagles could bounce back. Once the Eagles started
to come back and made it a game, that's when
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you really start to judge these two teams because you
have one team that's playing with their back against the
wall and they're fighting back. They're like, Hey, we're not
going to go down like this. This is not going
to be an embarrassing We have too much pride, We're
too good, we're too talented.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
How do the Rams respond?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
And the Rams, at least on Sunday kind of gagged
it away, like they did not seem like they were
built for that moment because they have so many young players, right,
they have Matthew Stafford, Devonte Adams, Pooka Nakua, like, those
are the guys you trust on their team. Their defense
is really young. I know that everyone loves their front four,
but it's a really young defense. So you saw the
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Philadelphia Eagles. Once they got that ball rolling, they kept rolling,
and they kept rolling, and they kept rolling. Xtos an Avalanche.
The Green Bay Packers, as much as we were impressed
them for the first two weeks of the season, it
was the defense that was impressive. The offense had been
just okay, right, Like we knew that coming in that
they were okay. Jaden Reed is hurt, Tucker Kraft is
banged up. You probably shouldn't even played on Sunday, So
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you I knew that the offense, which had just been
C plus B minus level, was going to take a
step back, but you would hope that the defense would
carry the day as they had the first two weeks.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Which they did.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
The defense was absolutely good enough to win that game,
but the offense didn't do enough to seal the deal.
So I think that's why people are not jumping down
the throats of the Greenmy Packers in the loose to
the Cleveland Browns is because they played very similar to
how they've played the first two games. They just happened
to lose.
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Speaker 3 (15:38):
Live Rob in regards to some of these process numbers,
off the top of your head, no cheating.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
How many quarterbacks through for three hundred yards so far
this week?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Oh one, wow, nailed it?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Justin Herbert three hundred exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
God, he's so good right now?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
What we get to that?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And to say after Justin Herbert, it was Caleb Williams
because he was facing Dallas, which is bad.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Basically, get get right spot for any quarterback.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I mean, seriously, look what Russell Wilson did against Dallas
last week, and look at.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
How freaking terrible he was against the Chiefs and he
was terrible.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And week one against Washington. So Dallas just hey, we'll
trade away Michael Parsons. No big deal.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Oh yeah, no, no big deal at all.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Anyways, So Justin Herbert three hundred yards, Caleb Williams two
ninety eight, Geno Smith in a loss to eighty nine,
he was bad.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
That's two eighty nine. Was was lying to you. He
was bad.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Mac Jones, who I thought was kind of good to
eighty four, and then Drake May two sixty eight. But
it's it's just interesting the lack of offense is interesting
because you.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Know we like offense.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I'm not gonna lie to you, guys. I'm watching some
of these games, Like I watched maybe five plays in
the Seahawks game.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It's unwatchable.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
The Saints are terrible. The Saints have to be the
worst team in the league. And my Atlanta Falcons, listen,
I got it. I gotta eat that. Holy I mean
I was. I don't know when I lost my mind,
whether it was the Michael Pennix pick six, the miss
field goals in the first quarter, like the Falcons got
their asses handed to them by the Panthers thirty to zero.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
The Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
There is a Panthers team that was down twenty to
three at the half, I think.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
In both of their games to start the season, and
now they win thirty to nothing. Like nobody's consistent at all.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Jameck I got two stats about the Falcons are gonna
blow your mind.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
One of them.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Okay, Atlanta actually outgained Carolina in that game by one
hundred and nine yards. Right, the last team to outgain
their opponent by over one hundred and lose by thirty
at least in a shutout was the Miami Dolphins in
nineteen seventy. So to your point, the score is bad, right,
it's not like Carolina put it on them. Just Atlanta turnovers,
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you know, fluky plays that happened, and it was just
bad football around in the Snowball of Fame becomes at
thirty or nothing. And here's the other one. This one I
had to actually look up after I read it. Did
you know that Michael Pennick Junior is now zero to
four when opponents score more than seven points in a game. Now,
like you know, he had Baker dead to rights and
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Baker made him bradulars. Yeah, but it's like, that's just
funny that that's that exists now. And then he got
bench for Kirk Cousins. So you know, we'll see they
say they didn't come of that, but I thought that
was funny.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
No, No, that's that's good. Listen some of my preseas.
I love the Falcons. I don't know, man, we'll see
about Penix. I'm not totally tossing them out, but this
wasn't Now. It was a short week.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I'm not making excuses for the guy.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I had them every which way minus four and a
half in the contest.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I had him in one survivor. I feel like an
idiot for even thinking that thirty to nothing, that's an
ass kicking.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
What was the the other team I wanted to talk about,
Oh Chargers, Yeah, Chargers, this wasn't Oh should we talk
about your Raiders at all?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Or just forget them?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
They're boring?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Screw my Raiders, man.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I mean, when.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Marcus Mariota the backup quarterback, hang is like forty on you.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
But that was a I mean I expect him to
lose by that much, but that was a clear loss
for them. You mentioned it last week. They come off
ten days rest in Washington. Yea, the Raiders off a
short week like going east at the ten am start Pacific.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Like you knew that the spread was not high enough
as soon as they said.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It, Yeah, Washington, easy winner.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
There good stuff from Kingsbury.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I just wanted to briefly touch on this Broncos game
because Chargers are up ten to nothing, then in like
the blink of an eye, Broncos get back in it
a fourth and two conversion, just busted play, they get
to touchdown, and then it's halftime, and next thing you know,
it's seventeen to ten Broncos pretty quickly. And you know
how when a quarterback gets the ball late in the game,
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usually I have very little faith.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like, oh, there's no way they're bulling this off.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
No shot.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Defense is stopped up. When Herbert gets the ball, Rob,
I'm like, they got this.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
He is so confident against the Chiefs earlier this year,
up up and down the field in the fourth quarter
when they needed it most, the Chiefs could not stop him.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Broncos an elite defense.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Now two of his offensive linemen left, Beckden have got
a concussion, and Pipkins was just getting obliterated. He allowed
eleven pressures and of course Slater's not there, and Herbert
sug running for his life, sacked five times. He was
under duress and against an elite defense. He just carved
him up right down the field. Delivered the touchdown pass
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to Keenan Allen was amazing. I mean, he's getting kind
of pinballed in the pocket and had the wherewithal to
set himself and fire a rocket. I'm like, dude, what
do you When he releases that, Rob, I'm like, oh
my gosh, what is he doing.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Into the end zone here?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
This is going to get picked and it's like a
dark to Keenan Allen for the touchdown. Holy smokes, I
mean that it's one of the five best passes I've
seen the season, when you consider time and circumstance.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And my buddy was at the game texting me from
it and he's.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Like, oh my gosh, Herbert like this guy. We were
on the Chargers obviously, so late in the game. Herbert
final two drives eight of nine for ninety three yards
in a touchdown. He delivered it, and he got him
in field goal range. And Dick Or the kicker, by
the way, I don't know if you missed it. I
hosted HERD this summer and Dicker the kicker was on there.
He is a funny guy. And oh, by the way,
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he's automatic. I don't know if I got the stat right,
but he hasn't missed a kick from inside forty three
yards something like. He's hit like sixty eight in a row,
some insane number like that. I'm not saying he's Brandon Aubrey,
who doesn't miss ever from anywhere. But they got a
great kicker, an awesome quarterback, and an awesome coach. The
defense is banged up with no Khalil Mack on the
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ir the offensive line is hurting, and they're.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Three, you know, with three wins in the division. So Rob,
I think.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Right now for me, it's Bill's Ravens Chargers in the
AFC is the three best teams. And again this is
subject to change, you know, the one the Chiefs get
their guys back, they'll they'll they'll look a lot better.
The Bengals are clearly frauds. Jake Browning just embarrassed himself
liking slaughter in them. Bengals are not gonna be good
this year. I don't fall up by this. Pittsburgh Steelers nonsense.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
The Colts.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Are the Colts for real? Roun Oh god, I hope
they are.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Are they going to the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yes? When the division is cold. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Jags two and one, Texans and Titans oh and three.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Texans are terrible.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
They're so bad and I backed them in the contest
like an idiot. My last pick, it's like, oh, the
Texans come on it. C J Stroud, CJS drive to
it's two pick, Oh no, sorry, a pick and then
Nico Collins fumbled the final two drives.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Your best two players, losing the game for you like,
they're not good at all.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I mean, you look around this league, man, A lot
of quarterbacks have fallen far pretty fast.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
First off, with those Texans, they have now scored twenty
or less points and seven of their last nine weeks
of football code in the playoffs. Like, I didn't even
know that was possible. And I'm a Raiders fan, right,
that tells you one thing. Number two, going back to
the Broncos Chargers game, speaking of quardecks are falling off
bo Nicks fourteen of twenty five one to fifty three,
one touchdown. I mean, just because he didn't throw a pick,
people think, oh he was okay. No, if you watch
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that game, bo Nicks just has not looked good at
all this season, right, especially relatively the expectations I had
them winning the division, and what he's done so far
this season is really left a lot to be desired.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
As far as Justine, he hasn't made the leap at all,
not at all, And.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Neither did Stroud after year one he had to regress
a little, right, So second year is tough, man.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, And you know what's funny about CJ.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Stroud is that video that's been recirculating now where it's
him after they faced Kayla Williams last season and he
pulls him beside tracks to Big Bro and he's like,
hey man, you know, keep doing what you're doing. Ear oh,
come here, come here. You know, keep doing what you're
doing because all in New you're going to be good.
And it's like you've been You're like younger than Kayleb Williams.
I think at this point, like I don't know if
you're like six months older him, and I don't know
if you're really doing Big Bro another guy. And then
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since then he's been terrible, right, the whole offense has.
But justin Herbert like, I don't think the listeners understand
unless you watch that game really on the big TV
or if you had multiple games that was when you're
focusing on because.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
You met that he took five sacks.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
They were beating the crap out of him.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
In that game.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
He was pressured on almost fifty five percent of his dropbacks. Right,
that's the highest in his career obviously, and you look
at the numbers against the pressure ten of twenty three
doesn't sound great, but trust me, when you're pressured that
much to even be able to get twenty three attempts
off is incredible because usually when you're getting pressure that much,
you just go down because you're getting happy feed and
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you're like, you're afraid of the rush at that point, right,
So it's ten of twenty three one forty three. You
mentioned the touchdown of Keenan Allen, which was great. He
took me, threw one pick. You mentioned the last two
drives and he was money. But even before that, in
the fourth quarter again after getting under siege the entire game,
basically right down his offensive lineman taking hits against the
defense that finally returned to form after last season that
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Broncos even finally looked like the super Bowl caliber defense
we've been expecting. Fourth quarter, he was twelve to fifteen
to twenty three a touchdown and he converts nine first
downs like he is playing the best football I've ever
seen him play. And I know some of the stats
he had early in his career were real gaudy, and
it's like, well, how could you say that he's doing
for four hundred yards and he was so great and
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it's like, yeah, but it's different now, Like you can
tell by watching him the maturity is level. He's taking
that next step that you always expect an elite quarterback
to take. And he's always had this reputation, at least
with me and some other people around you know, NFL media,
that he has all the trades, he has all the talent,
but there's just something that he doesn't quite have right,
Like he's if you're building a quarterback in a lab,
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even more so than Lamar and Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes.
It looks like justin Herbert. He's tall, he's strong, to
the big rocket on the accuracy, the way it comes
out of his hand is beautiful, like whistles by your ear,
but there's just something kind of either between the ears
or in his heart that he doesn't quite have that
some of the elite guys do. And you've see now
this season tough. But that was the analysis about him.
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Like you read the Athletic the QB Tears, there were
people who said the same thing and a lot of
it goes back to his play performers. He hasn't been
the playoffs, but this season to respond the way he
has in Brazil against Kansas City down the stretch and
what he did on Sunday against the defense that was
lighting his ass up all game long. You might have
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to separate the Big four and say, hey, we have
a big five now, and it's.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Just beIN Herbert.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, as you're saying that, Rob, you know how there's
the Magnificent seven stocks, why not the Super six of quarterbacks.
You have to put Jalen Hurts in there, and you
have to put Justin Herbert in there.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I don't see how you keep either of those out.
Hurts just keeps doing it. I mean, I listen you
neglecting him a moment ago. I'll take it as oh,
I forgot you gotta have Hurts in there.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I mean, you know, he's definitely more accomplished. I'd have
him right there on the periphery. But just wait till
Brock Party comes back. Bro you know I'm a Brock
Party guy, But I'm just like Justin Herbert has looked
really good this season. If this Chargers team makes a
run deep in the postseason, it's gonna be because of him.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Like, he looks that good right now. He's him.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yes, I don't think there's much argument overall. I thought
it was.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
You know again, maybe I'm just salty because I had,
like the Titans and the Falcons and they both got
their ass kicked in like an ad and I had
the Texans two or three in the contest, Jets, did
you I mean listen to Jeck put down twenty three
six Rob. I thought that was over. I was staring
at like really a forlorn Sunday afternoon. They fought hard,
they came back, and then of course, you know, Baker
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did his thing. Briefly, I do need to talk about
the Niners A just a devastating non cover. And I
just have to bring this up because you know, I
like ambling. So Niners were minus two and a half
or minus three. It's tied thirteen all fourth quarter sky Moore,
And I know Chiefs fans remember this guy because he
was like a second round pick and he was supposed
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to be good.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Unbelievable not good.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
He goes back to field of punt, Rob decides to
do a fair catch inside the five yard line that
never works out well, so you could see as soon
as he caught it, he was shaking his head like,
damn it, why did I do that? So did chi
Niners take over on like the three and two plays later,
holding in the end zone safety Cardinals go up fifteen thirteen.
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I had Niners in't some money line parlays, so I'm like, jeez,
they gotta pull this out. And of course mac Jones
leads him down the field amazing passes, whether or it's
pearsall McCaffrey, like Mac Jones delivered. He had a he
had a good day. It wasn't bad interception, but he
was also hobbled. So Niners win sixteen to fifteen.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
It was a pretty good game.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Unfortunately, if you are a fantasy owner and you have
James Connor, I'm sorry he's out for the season, a
pretty grotesque leg injury. Trey Benson, who If you guys
are a real fantasy players, when you draft a running back,
you have to get an elite running back by Connor.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You have to have Trey Benson.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I've got Trey Benson on like two of my steams,
and I think I don't even know if I have
Connor on any of them. But the Cardinals had so
many bad drops. Rob this Marvin Harrison stuff. He had
a devastating wide open drop, and I keep wondering, like,
it's is it possible, It's just not gonna click fruit.
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I don't know the answer to that because they had
Zay Jones could have locked up the game on third
and nine. The dB made a really good play to
kind of jar it loose at the end, but I
mean you catch it with both your hands. Hould that
shit in. Anyways, it's saved my Niners and they came back.
They're just so ravaged by injuries right now. And I'm
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just telling you, rob Christian McCaffrey had fifteen targets. Dude,
he's not gonna last the season. Saquon and c Mac,
they've got to go heavy Brian Robinson. Man, I'm just
telling you Christian McCaffrey like he when he gets the ball,
obviously he's super dangerous. But if I'm I start working
in these backups, and I know the coaches want to
win it all costs and you got to get the dub, bro,
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there's not gonna be a season. If McCaffrey goes down,
it's over. Seriously, you can't win a Super Bowl without
christ Without Christian mccafrey.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
This is not happening.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
So they have Jacksonville rams Tampa and they have an
easy schedule. So I need to see Brian Robinson and back, like,
just give McCaffrey a half off?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Can you do that?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Is that crazy to say? Rob?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I mean, give him a half off? Sounds crazy, But
I agree with you if the workload is too much.
And that's someone who has Christian McCaffrey in several fantasy leagues,
obviously doing well for me, but from a football point
of view, I think he had twenty seven touches on Sunday,
you know, and in week one he had he had
thirty one. And it's like, I don't think any running
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back should get that many touches in today's NFL on
blank period, right, especially not a guy who has an
injury history the way Christian McCaffrey does. But to your point,
they're so banged up everywhere else, Like if you look
at their receiving corps, they're basically down their top three guys.
Like all the talk about Kansas City is like, well, wait,
it's a worthy it's back and wait till Rashi Rice
gets back. It's like, well, the Niners are down. I
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you guys have them all season. Juwan Jenny's missed on Sunday,
George Kittle's on IR and you're down to your backup quarterback.
And I always contend that as bad as that is
on the injury front, that the Niners offense has been
better than the Chiefs offense. Like, and it goes back to,
you know, Kyle Shanahan is doing a really solid job
having those guys ready to go. But more importantly, they're
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just really gritty, Like they're a team that doesn't kind
of get phased. They're not allowing the the the other
team to get too comfortable. They're they're willing to drag
you down into the mudd and get into these ugly
rock fights. And you know what's funny is the Arizona
Cardinals coming into the season. We had a lot of
people coming on in the preseason and they were like, hey,
kee brat on the Cardinals as the team to win
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the NFC West, Like, right, you know Jonathan Gannon as
a coach of the Year, dark horse contender, right, And
I feel like on Sunday, that's the kind of game
that if you're a legitimate division winning contender or a
playoff you know, deep run type of team, that's a
game you win going away. Considering how banged up the
Niners are that you know, Christian McCaffrey has touched the
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ball damn near thirty times, Mac Jones is wearing a
big ass knee brace on his knee, can barely move.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
You should roll over them.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
And to your point, Marvin Harrison is not clicking for
him and Kyler Murray is just suddenly like one hundred
and seventy five yards a game type of passer, Like
I can't have my number one overall quarterback, my franchise guy.
If you're unless your offense is the Eagles were, we
don't ask you to throw a lot where you know
we're a ground and pound team. They're not that kind
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of offense, and they still can't produce. They can't move
the ball at the kind of clip you to pick
me to do. Like outside of Trey McBride, is there
anybody on that receiving core that you feel confident in
moving forward? And I would say no, And I know
he went fourth overall, you think it would be him,
But there's just something that's not clicking for them, and
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quite there's something not clicking with the Niners. But they're
finding ways to win. That's a huge thing for them
considering how banged up they are.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
So Harrison went fourth and twenty four after him went
Alt then went Neighbors. Neighbors was a freaking ridiculous superstar
last year. This year tough JC Latham to Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
He was out.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I didn't realize how important he is to the offensive line.
Pennix real Madunze, who had a big game. Yeah, Harrison's
got to step it up, man, I mean brock Powers
went thirteenth in that one.
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Speaker 3 (33:50):
All right, let's get to Monday night football, Ravens hosting
the Lions. I guess you know. I thought this was
an absolute layup. The Ravens were six. I teased it down.
I'm on the Ravens. I got it four and a half.
Now money keeps coming in against me. I don't know
what people are seeing with the Lions. It's entirely possible, Rob,
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I'm missing something. I think the Ravens win this rather handily,
but I'm thinking maybe you have an alternative opinion and
obligatory Lamar Jackson's twenty four and two against the NFC
go for it.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
No, not at all. I'm them all in on the
Ravens on this one. Like I think the last time
they played each other win at thirty five nothing before
he even.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Broke a sweat. Yeah, like it was just a blowout.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
And then here's the stats right here when they played
in twenty twenty three, Lamar Jackson twenty one to twenty seven,
seventy eight percent completion, thirty three hundred and fifty seven yards,
three touchdowns. He also added a rushing score and that
wasn't even peak Lamar Jackson. Like, Lamar Jackson's only gotten
better since then. Dereck Henry has been added since then,
Like that offense is more explosive now than it was
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back then. And it's just I don't envision a scenario
where the Detroit Lions can have like another out of
body experience offensive explosion like they had last week.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, And the only thing that would hang me up is,
you know, Ravens ineptitude. Derrick Henry fumbles, But you can't
make bets with that in mind. I think the Ravens
are clearly the better team, and I think they show
it on Monday Night football.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
All right, that's it for today. We are back tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Talk to you then,