On today’s episode, Jason discusses the Buffalo Bills’ exhilarating comeback victory over the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday Night, why he’s running out of adjectives to describe the greatness of Josh Allen, why it feels like the Green Bay Packers and the Detroit Lions are headed in opposite directions this season, the most impressive part about Brock Purdy’s performance in San Francisco’s road win over the Seahawks, and why there’s reason for optimism today if you’re a long-suffering fan of the Las Vegas Raiders or the New York Jets. Finally, J-Mac closes the show with his Best Bets for the Monday Night Football showdown between the Chicago Bears and the Minnesota Vikings.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is a straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Straight fire.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
For Monday, September the eighth. If you live in Orchard Park,
New York, or you're a Buffalo Bills fan boy, you
are waking up like you won the Super Bowl today.
I mean, listen Week one in the NFL. Not totally done,
Vikings Bears tonight on Monday Night Football, but oh my gosh,
what a capper to just an absurd Sunday that was
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bonkers capped with. I mean, one of the great comebacks
that I can remember in Week one. Listen the NFL
primetime games in Week one delivered. So Thursday you had
Cowboys Eagles. Before the first play the game, you've got
a guys getting ejected for spinning. Dallas has a chants
in the final two minutes fails. Then Friday night in
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South Polo, you've got oh, the Chiefs, they're coming back,
they're gonna win. And then Justin Herbert big scrabble for
fifteen yards on the final drive down to the wire,
Chargers pull it out. And then you've got the Bills
down fifteen with four minutes left at home, fourth and two,
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Josh Allen touchdown to Keyon Coleman, Derrick Henry fumble, Oh
my gosh, what's happening? And they missed the two pointed
version of course, Ravens three and out. Where's the Lamar
Jackson magic? And then Buffalo goes down because Josh Allen
is a stone cold killer, and the Buffalo Bills win
it on a chip shot field goal on a Sunday
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where kickers kept missing, especially guys like mister Coup in Atlanta,
assuming he's still employed. That bastard cost me a win
in the in the circle millions that went three and two.
The Cleveland Browns kicker Holy Hell missed an extra point,
missed a field goal, forty nine Ers kickers Jake Moody
nearly cost him the game, couldn't kick anything, and the
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Bills get their kick and an unbelievable forty one to
forty game. Rob G and I were doing math before
we started recording the podcast. Okay, so Derrick Henry was
unfriggin believable. One hundred and sixty nine yards on the ground,
two touchdowns, three carries over thirty yards. I mean, he
just owns the Bills. Lamar Jackson had a really really
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good game through the air, two hundred nine yards, two touchdowns.
On the ground, had the best nineteen yard scramble you'll
ever see. He went back twenty five yards, somehow ran
away from Bosa and someone else and then and magically
picks up nineteen. So those two guys combined for four
hundred and eighteen yards of offense. They were spectacular. Josh
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Allen by himself had four hundred and twenty four yards
of offense. Folks, I don't know what we're doing in
the NFL right now. Like Patrick Mahomes generational talent, he
is amazing. We know Lamar Jackson has two MVPs. Like,
I don't see how you're watching that and saying, oh
my gosh. Josh Allen is freaking unbelievable. The throws he makes,
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the scrambles, he makes it look easy. The one thing
Josh Allen cannot do his kryptonite is basically the Toost push.
It continues to be a disaster for him. He tried
to fake the Toust push to go around the end
and got destroyed. I was like, oh my gosh, is
he hurt? But Josh Allen heroic. Bill's pull out to win.
And that's a huge, huge win for Buffalo because their schedule, remember,
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is not difficult. That gives them the inside track for
the number one seed, and he head to head with
the Ravens, they're gonna win that the Chiefs already suffered
in l Folks, the NFL. Listen, I was all prepared
to come on here talk about my Jets. You know,
I got some rock birdy material. Listen, the Jet played
great rockberdy material. He was hackular, yes, despite two picks,
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and obviously the Green Bay Packers I thought looked like
one of the best teams in the league. And then
you watch Sunday Night Football and Josh Allen's out here
throwing to nine different guys, and you guys know, every
Sunday during NFL season, I'm ordering food. I don't want
to say exactly where're from, but I'm ordering It's unhealthy
with wings, it's cheese sticks, it's bread Stix, pizza, whatever
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it is. Five of the guys could have delivered five
of the Buffalo Bill's pass catchers from Sunday. I could
have delivered the food. I would have been like, yeah,
I don't know who this guy is. I mean Honestly,
we just saw heroic stuff from Josh Allen and you
can't knock Lamar. Derek Henry had the unfortunate fumble. But
I don't know, this is one of those like it's
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not like the Ravens blew it. They were great. You
score forty points on the road, you gotta win. But
it was basically, Josh Allen just stole the game. I
don't know, Robert, I'm in all of Josh Allen and
that was some crazy shit.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, but that lightly, I would say, that's crazy shit.
You know what's funny is we'll pull back to curtain
real quick for all of our P one listeners. So
you had text me earlier in the game when the
Ravens looked like they were gonna.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Win this one going away, and you're like.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Hey, we're up fifteen, let's start recording the pod and
then you know, we'll sneak in the Ravens there either
at the beginning at the end with the clever editing,
you know software, we'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And I was unavailable for whatever reason, and we weren't
able to record till after the game was over.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It's like, well, God, damn. We happy that I was
unavailable to record.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
We had an incident classic on Sunday Night Football, and look, man,
we're running out of adjectives to describe Josh Allen. We've
talked about that now for years since we're doing this podcast,
and we were talking before we started recording, and one
thing we were saying was, even after this game, are
you sure that Buffalo is the better team? And I
think we both agreed, Like, no, I still think Baltimore
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top to bottom is a better roster. They are a
better team that Yet, if this was like a neutral site,
I think you would still be fam ring Baltimore and
I think we agree on that. And I'm not gonna
say anything that's gonna to disparage Lamar Jackson anyway. I
think Lamar Jackson is phenomenal. I think he has been
the best player in football for a couple of years now.
I absolutely believe he was robbed of an MVP last season. Like,
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if you look at the numbers, they were godlike it
should have been Lamar Jackson's MVP. But when you watch
that game last night, you kind of come away with
a better understanding exactly as to why the voters went
with Josh Allen instead of Lamar Jackson, because when I
watch Lamar Jackson play, as great as he is and
as obscene as his numbers are, I always get the
feeling that I'm watching Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens,
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like he is the front man, He's Michael Jackson, but
the rest of that group is also really good, like
they're also the Jackson Five, Like it's justin Timberlake and encinct.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Like they're really really really.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Talented up and down that roster. When I watch Buffalo,
it's Josh Allen and Josh Allen and Josh Allen and
Josh Allen. It's like, if you're gonna beat them, or
if he's if the Bills are gonna beat you, it's
gonna because Josh Allen was special. It's because he's the
one who put on his cape, went he went into
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the telephone booth Clark can't turn into Superman, and he
carried you to a win.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And he does that.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Over and over and over and over, and it seems
like the only Kryptoni, if we're going to use that
Superman analogy that he has, is facing Patrick Mahomes in
the postseason but if you look at the numbers, if
he's playing anybody else, Josh Allen probably has multiple super
Bowls because there's moneys. He has money in the postseason. Like,
Josh Allen is so good and he's so special, and
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it's it's just crazy to me that again, I don't
know what to say about him. He's awesome. And then
there's a reason why I think Buffalo is the AFC's gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Run through them.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Like you mentioned, he's that good. If you went to
bed early, like, oh, come on, they're up fifteen, I'm
not staying up for this. These are mind boggling stats.
So the Ravens got in the red zone three times,
that's it. Because of the long touchdowns. The Bills got
in the red zone seven times. They scored five red
zone touchdowns. This is staggering. The Ravens had so many
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big plays, Henry breaking off stuff, Lamar eight point six
yards per play. The Bills defense and who is it?
Tarico and collins Worth kept talking about it. The Bills
defense looks slow as shit. On the backet. They can't
stop anybody. I mean, they can't guard anybody, and the
safeties are slow. Taylor rap just getting Roasted taken awful angles.
The Ravens average eight point six yards per play. They
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were in fifty plays, eight point six yards per clip.
That's unst I mean, that's just unbelievable. Meanwhile, the Bills
were in seventy eight plays because they're kind of, you know,
spreading the ball around. Nine different guys caught passes and
they put up six point four yards per play. But
they just kept moving on a good Ravens defense. I mean, Rob,
this is one of those I'll be shocked if one
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of these, if both of these two aren't in the
ANFC title game. I know it's a long season and
you don't want to overreact, but like I watched a
lot of football, I'm well aware of the Chiefs folks,
Kansas City Chiefs are not. I mean, maybe when ra
Sheid Rice returns they'll look a little more explosive. Not
they cannot hang with these guys. They just can't. Like
Mahomes can only do so much, and defensively they're just
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not good enough. I mean, I like Jim Harball a lot,
and maybe the strategy is, hey, you've got to play
keep away from Josh Allen, right, just run the ball,
which is what the Ravens did. The problem is they
keep scoring so quickly that Josh Allen keeps getting the
ball and you can't stop Josh Allen. It's I mean,
it was one of those crazier games out rob. Here
are the next few Ravens games. So they visit the
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Jets this week. They will be favored by I don't know,
seven four seven something like that. Okay, the Jets lost.
The Jets are plucky, but they lost. Then they played Miami.
Miami looked like straight up the worst team in the league.
In Week one, they got their asses kicked by the Colts.
It was a beat down. The Colts scored on every
possession and Daniel Jones was their quarterback. Miami had injuries
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two of that three turnovers. Miami looked dreadful. Then the
Bills play New Orleans and I watched Spencer Ratler. I
want some money on Arizona. Spencer Ratler, ain't at Saints
are not a threat. Then they played New England. New
England did not look very good, losing to Rob Ji's Raiders.
Then they play Atlanta, and Atlanta you know there's probably
something there, but I'm gonna be real. I was just
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distraught at there's just not a smart football team. So
now assuming to get by the Jets, you're looking at
Buffalo six to zero heading into their bye week. They
come out of it, they smash Carolina, which they will do.
Then it's a big showdown against Kansas City at home. Folks.
I'm not gonna talk undefeated because they still have to
play the Eagles and they have to play Burrow. But
all their tough games are at home. They got the
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Ravens at home, they get the Chiefs at home, they
get Borrow at home, and they get Jalen Hurts at home.
They do have to travel to Houston, but if you
watched Houston Rams, that Houston offensive line just got it
is just not good. And I think they lost two
guys to injury. Obviously it's it's early, we'll see. But
the biggest takeaway big picture week one, Rob, would you
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would you agree Buffalo Bill's the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I mean I would still go Baltimore probably.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay, fine, fine, I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll
accept Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
No.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
But like you're spot on, I don't want anyone say
that we're overreacting, like oh, it's only one game. It's
only week one, Like, yeah, it was a great game,
but no, no, what you don't understand is, and you mentioned
it did just look at the schedule. Even though I
believe that Baltimore is the best team in the NFL,
this game is so big because it, like I said,
it likely means that the AFC playoff race is gonna
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run through Buffalo because you look at that schedule you
mentioned in New York, Miami, New Orleans, New England, Atlanta,
and then the bye. Look at Baltimore schedule before their
Week seven bye. Okay, it's Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, Houston, Rams.
I'm not saying that that Baltimore can't run whatever five
and oh go like going into the week seven by like,
that's totally possible because they're that good, they're that dangerous,
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and they'll be I'm sure there'll be that more motivated
after what happened here last night. But it's not the
same kind of tiptoe through the tulips that Buffalo has.
So this Week one game that again you say, hey,
it's week one. We got a long season, we got
sixty more games, we got four months to play.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's a long.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Season, right, this one game could ultimately be what leads
to a split between at fifteen and two Buffalo and
a fourteen and three Baltimore, or maybe they're both fourteen
and three and hey, tiebreaker goes to Buffalo. Had to
head like this game was so big for Buffalo to
get the win, not only because the way they did it,
but because now they are one thousand percent in the
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driver's seat to get home field advantage in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm still kind of shook as we record this after
midnight on Monday.
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Speaker 2 (12:56):
I mean listen. We're not going to cover every single game,
I do think though. My second biggest takeaway was how
good the Green Bay Packers looked and how inept the
Detroit Lions looked. Now, I got a couple buddes who
were Lions fans. One of them actually was like, dude,
you're so high on the Broncos and down on the Lions.
Bet me who will have more wins? And I was like, well,
the Broncos have a lower wind to no, no, no, you
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think that bet straight. So we have this bet and
then the Lions come out and Rob, I don't know
how much of this game you watched, but I mean
Green Bay just had them in a choke hold the
entire game. I mean it was twenty seven to six
deep into the fourth quarter before like a garbage time
touchdown made it somewhat respectable. I have to be honest, Rob,
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I did not see anything from Detroit. This was an
ass whooping. Detroit had under two hundred yards heading into
the final drive, three point eight yards per play. I
put up a joke, and of course people didn't think
it was funny that Ben Johnson, sorry Jared Goff with
how Ben Johnson looks like Zach Wilson. And you know,
maybe that was harsh, But if you look at the
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next gen stats, Jared Gosta throwing the ball down the field,
nothing like it's all in a phone booth. Now, some
of that is the offensive line, right. They had ragnow
retire lost another interior offensive lineman. Presto. Pressure up the
middle killed Golf. He was sacked four times. And it
wasn't just Micah coming off the edge. Micah would do.
They would do the stunt where Micah would pretend like
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he's going outside and then cut inside, and then they
would have the inside guy bounce outside and it just
cave Detroit fits all night. I mean, they couldn't run.
Detroit could not run the ball. Gibbs who I was
told by some people who are like a top three
fantasy pick, I'm like, what nine carries for nineteen yards?
And again Green Bay. You know, I think he's super
Bowl bound, probably now in the NFC, and not just
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because of Week one, but I thought that late after
the Micah Trader was like, both Ta comes comes on
here hypes of packers with some numbers. Then you add
Mica to that. I like the Golden pickup. Ten different
guys caught passes from Jordan Love. They got a lot
of weapons, and I I mean again, Jordan Love was good.
I know, he threw the one pick that was it
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was like a penalty that erased it. He did. Jordan
Love was not amazing sixteen or twenty two for a
buck eighty eight with two touchdowns, but he was totally efficient.
You got Dobbs, Reid Wicks, Tucker Kraft, my guy with
a nice, nice little game out of the head of
Tuddy for my fantasy team, and the defense I thought
was just everywhere. Again, I'm lower than market on the Lions,
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I'm higher on the Packers, and I don't know rob
Detroit by the way, next week against the Bears, now
it's at home, which is good for them, after that
at Baltimore, So if they don't win that, Detroit's quickly
looking at an ozer win three start.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, and it's now I'm not going to go out
and say right away that I definitely have the Packers,
even though I had the Packers in the preseason to
win that division. But a lot of it had to
do with as you mentioned, the overhaul on the offensive
line is not nothing right. When you're replacing two very good,
you know, borderline all pro level players, all your and
you're replacing both of your coordinators, there's gonna be some
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kind of adjustment period. There's gonna be a learning curve.
There was no way they were gonna go fifteen to
two again. You know, natural regression means that you're probably
going twelve thirteen wins. Then EF factor in the other stuff,
then maybe you're down to ten eleven wins, and so
I knew it was going to be a slow start.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I didn't expect them to look that bad though. That's
the thing.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
And to your point, if you look at the raw numbers, hey,
Jared Goff was completing like seventy five percent of his passes.
The problem was there was no threat to push the
ball down the field whatsoever. Thirty nine completions for two
hundred and twenty five yards is not or twenty thirty
one completion two hundred five years is not great. The
big thing is that they could not run the ball
to save their lives. When gibbson Montgomery combined for twenty
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carries for forty four yards, yeah, like that's not Detroit
Lions football. And once this new old line gels, I'm
sure sometime maybe by maybe mid October or right around
the Halloween, then they'll be fine. But it is going
to be a very different Detroit Lions team here early on.
And I mean, the Packers look good, man, and even
with Mike only playing spot duty, he was impacting the
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pass rush a little bit, and they look really really dangerous.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Let's go where we're gonna go now, brock Purty, Okay,
we just spent a couple of moments here on Party.
For whatever reason, he remains one of the most polarizing
I don't know, can I say athletes instead of just
NFL players, because for whatever reason, people just don't like
Rock Party. He throws a pick, and my boy who
I played football with, who was a quarterback at Notre Dame,
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text me, Jay, you gotta chill with the brock purty
stuff like after the interception, and Cowherd light me up. Oh,
there's Rock Party struggling in Seattle. Let's just take a
deep breath here. Opinions are fine, They're great. I'm just
gonna hit you with some numbers. So, first of all,
George Kittle leaves the game in the second quarter with
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a hamstring. Okay, Deebo Samuels in Washington, he was good
in the opener. Yukes On puplist ir whatever. He's out
for like six weeks. Juwan Jennings, who came in as
their two number two receiver, left with the shoulder range
in the second half. So now it's fourth quarter on
the road against the top ten defense from last year,
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and it's Oh, I've got Christian McCaffrey and Ricky piersoll
and who the hell else, and Purty starts forcing shit
and he has two bad interceptions, undeniable. There's nothing you
could do. He made two bad passes, yet he gets
the ball back down three. Let's go hits Ricky Piarsol
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deep down the sideline, makes a couple of plays, and
then on third and three he's rolling out inside the five.
And I don't want to say it was a Josh
Allen yolo ball. Rob can say that if he wants,
but he's like, I gotta throw it in there, and
forces a ball to someone named Jake t n g S.
I don't even know how he pronounced that tongs Tungus.
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I'd never heard his name in my life. He had
zero catches in his career coming in this game. He
snags it and the Niners get to touchdown and take
the lead. Now this is where it gets interesting, Rob.
So everybody says party was awful? Are you ready for this?
Perty got lucky for the game. Seattle had two hundred
thirty yards against this rebuilt Niners defense. Right, rebuilt Niners defense.
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Seattle at home, two hundred thirty yards, Rock Party on
the Road down Weapons Galore three hundred and eighty four
yards of offense, got to the red zone five times,
seven for fourteen on third down. The niners, I know
the perception Rob is oh Man. Those interceptions are Party.
The numbers say he was by a mile better than
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Sam Darden. It's not his fault Rock Party that the
kicker shanked an easy one and then had the next
kick block. If you saw Shanahan on the sideline, he's
losing his mind. Afterward, they were like something about a kicker.
He's like, nope, not talking about that. It was very
clear that they're gonna have kicker tryouts Hurdy. And and
how about this stat from NFL. Purdy was pressured on
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fifty fifty seven percent of his dropbacks. Rob the most
in any game in his career under pressure thirteen of
twenty buck twenty six. Both picks were under pressure, but
he had a touchdown. That is as gritty of a
performance as you will find from the seventh thron pick.
He's gonna catch heat. I know people are gonna light
them up. While he was terrible, look at these interceptions.
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They weren't great, not gonna lie, they were bad, But
when it mattered most, he made a play. And of
course Darnald fumbles in the red zone. By the way,
he just fumbled. He was feeling the pressure from bosup
brings the ball back in like his wind up and
just lost the ball and the Niners recover it, and
then I get the dub. I was It's weird. I
wasn't heavily invested financially in that, but I feel emotionally
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I'm team Brock Purdy and to get this win man Rob.
I felt so happy for Purdy. I've never met Purdy,
I've I don't know his agent, no connection whatsoever, but
I just I root for this guy.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
It sounds like he's like your He lives like three
doors down and you guys played pickup ball or you
see him walking the dog every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Like, yeah, I'm a Brock Purtty guy too.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
And I think gritty is the right word because I
watched a lot of that game on the big TV
ad that's smaller the iPad with some of the other games,
but that was the big screen, and I didn't think
he looked great when I was watching him play. Like
you mentionedly thrown force in a lot of stuff. It
was way too much Christian McCaffrey for a guy coming
off with little calf issue from a couple of days ago.
To get thirty one touches coming off of that probably
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not ideal. I don't know if I would have done
that to a guy who's way too already, But he
did what he had to do to win. And you
look at the raw numbers, and again they're not eye popping.
You mentioned, you know, basically like two hundred and ninety
yards or so total.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, touchdowns, two picks.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
But then and then, and I know this is gonna
sound weird because we just saw that that barn Burner
there in Buffalo with josh Ana Lamar Jackson. But then
you go across the league you look at some of
the other guys like Matthew Stafford went for two forty
five and his team scored fourteen points.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Like CJ.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Stroud goes for like two fifteen total and his team
scores nine points. Bo Nicks has a couple of turnovers
against a terrible team. It's like, maybe it was just
an average day for most NFL quarterbacks on Sunday. The
difference was that Brock perty down two of his top
what three receiving options and four or three if you
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count Branton and Ayuk, and he just found ways to win.
He found ways to get it on a day when
his special team was terrible, when his best player is
nicked up and he's only getting two yards to carry. Anyways,
he just made a little bit of play here, a
little play there, a key third down conversion here. You
mentioned that throw there at the end.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It was a Yollo ball. We'll say that.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I don't know if he really meant to throw at
the way that he wanted to, but it was a
great catch. But again, all that matters is you win,
my guy. Joe Burrow looked terrible against the Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Browns, and he does every year.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, but they won, so nobody's going to care and
the difference, And honestly, I think Joe Burrow probably looked
worse than Brock Purty. You know, he's say for the interceptions,
but he's not gonna get the same kind of heat. They're
gonna say, Oh, Joe Burrow finally got a Week one
to win, big start there for the Bengals. But Brock Purdy,
because the perception is that he's mister irrelevant, he's the
seventh round pick, he's never worked the contract. Everyone's always
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looking to poke holes in him, and I thought he did,
you know, just enough to win as very like you said,
a gritty performance.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I'm gonna have to ride with him. It's funny. I
did just look at Seattle. Oh my gosh, it's crazy.
So they did not have a carry longer than nine yards,
and only one player had a double digit reception and
that was Jackson's spent the jigba. Everything else was within
ten yards. Basically, it is an ultra vanilla offense. They
don't want Donald to make mistakes, and then he ends
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up making a mistake at the end. I mean there's
a rebuiltners defense. I think four new starters unbelievable. You
mentioned Bo Nick, So I'm just gonna touch on this.
Depending on the number you got Broncos did or didn't cover,
it was seven seven and a half eight eight and
a half. They win by eight. Bo Nicks was terrible.
There's no way around it. He was awful, throwing off
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his back foot, across his body, terrible decisions. He had
two interceptions and a fumble, and on fourth down he
tried like a tush pust and he tried the Josh Allen,
I'm gonna bounce off I'm not gonna go up the middle.
I'm gonna go to the left. And then he like
trips and wipes out, doesn't get it like he was awful.
Nearly cost the Broncos. By the way, that was the
team we had and the Survivor the one hundred thousand
(24:25):
dollars buy in Survivor. I there was some sweats on
this in the fourth because they couldn't really put away
cam Ward. I didn't think cam Ward was bad, but
they did sacond six times rookie on the road. But
the bigger, bigger story, bo Nixt look look terrible. He
did not look good or all the Broncos. And I
was texting my buddy this. They looked like a team
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that read their clippings all off season. Rob Oh shit,
we good we are. We got top defense in the league.
Bo Nix is the man and Sean Payton had some
very questionable decisions, whether it was going for, whether it
was a bomb on fourth down late in the game
instead of a Poots punt or a field Well, I
don't I don't know what Peyton was doing. Some really
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weird decisions. Now did you watch any of that?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
That was the one I had on the smallest screen.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Once I started watching it, and I was kind of
locked in there for a minute, but it was just
it was bad football. It was bad football, so it
was very easy to be like, hey, I'll put that
one on the phone, like six feet away, so it's on.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I'm not really watching it.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
And I was very upset at the end, as you mentioned,
because I got an eight and a half so for
them and only win by eight really pissed me off.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Uh, do you want to talk about your Raiders because
I didn't watch a ton of that, but I do
know Gino Smith, I think had the most passing yards
until Josh Challenger thrown him. Gino Smith went off three
hundred and sixty two. All I heard was the wide
receiving Corse is nothing. Amari Cooper retired and then Brock
Powers gets hurt and it doesn't really matter because somebody
named Dante Thornton was okay, Michael Mayer came in, the
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young kid Jack Beach had a nice catch like Jacobe
Myers gets it done. Nice road win for the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, that's one of those games that any of the
last five years they lose going away, like because they
started off great, march right down the field touchdown, and
then they kind of just got stuck in the mud.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
The weather was part of it. Part of it was
they couldn't.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Run the ball at all, and historically, you know, under
previous regimes, that's the game that they just give up
by the middle of the third quarter, and you know
it was a close game, is suddenly a two score game,
and then you know, that's all she wrote. But it's
something you'll appreciate this as a Jets fan. Having a
competent quarterback completely changes your perspective on things. Having a
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coach that you know maybe is not the best coach
or in his prime or whatever, but you know that
he's not going to do anything really stupid or his
team's not going to be making dumb mistakes over and over. Like, hey,
if we lose, we're gonna lose, but it's gonna be
a close game. It's gonna be a competitive game. It
is what it is. So just having a guy like
Geno Smith, and he's somewhere between I don't know, the
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twelfth and eighteenth quarterback in football, but on a game
to game, week to week basis, he might be a
top five or six quarterback like you saw it, like
you're a little bit on on Sunday, like that makes
a huge difference because having a guy like Gino Smith,
when you can't run the ball at all, you're averaging
basically two yards of carry, and he comes down throws
for three sixty two with no threat of a ground game.
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He was getting beaten, battered, He got sacked four times,
and he still found ways to win, including that clutch
throw that at the very end, third and ten, they're
gonna run the clock out, he throws a deep fly
route to Thornton Junior to to ice the game.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Basically like that. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
And I know it's not gonna be last long season,
but let me just say to have the first place
Raiders does have a great ring to it.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah. No, that it was an impressive win for Gino.
I did. I didn't think Drake made looked particularly good.
But you say first place. They now host the Chargers
this Monday Night football. It says nine fifteen. I don't
even know what day that is.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
That is that that uh it is? It is Monday
night football and it's a it's a double header.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, she okay, that's at home, so.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
It might as well be a win two and O Raiders.
I can feel it.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Two and oh that they faced May, Herbert and Daniels
in the first three weeks. Okay, before we get to
Monday night football, best bet, let me just riff on
my Jets. I listen. I'm not one of these guys
who's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I jinxed it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
But when the Jets were rolling, I texted, you know,
my usual suspect Jets friends. I was like, guys, I
gotta be honest. They look freaking awesome. They're fun, they're scoring,
they're they're creative. I mean, Aaron Glenn on the sideline
is flexing after like three plays into the game when
they're sacking Rod, like, this is a fun team. Justin feels.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
He was good. There's no way around there. I saw
Rob with the Mia copa online. Reese Hall had so
much juice. Oh my gosh, the cuts, the speed, the power.
I mean, Brice Hall was outstanding. Garrett Wilson excellent until
the final play of the game where he got jacked.
The pass rush as predicted was good, got to Rogers,
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but they lose on a sixty yard field goal with
well like two minutes left. One minute left a sixty yarder.
I mean, listen, what do you want me to do?
Like it's a sixty yard field goal with one oh
three left from Boswell. I don't I don't know what
to say. You lose on a sixty yard field goal
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like that, that's a devastating loss. Afterward, Tomlin called his
kicker a serial killer. He's got a low post rate,
he can't wait to deliver. At some point, Rob's going
to do an interview and call me a serial killer. Yes,
because like, damn, Jay, you're doing what is this year
five of the podcast? Five days a week? Yeah, I
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mean we're not doing weekends. But that's I'm just conservatively,
let's say it's one hundred and two hund that's like
a thousand podcasts. That's insane that like people who do
a thousand podcasts stretch it out over like ten years.
There's no rush. I am kind of a serial killer
in that way. And I just can't stop watching this
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Jets offense and thinking, I'm so happy we're competent. Like
I know, we lost on the sixty yard bomb, but
the Jets rushed for one hundred and eighty two yards
against the vaunted Steelers defense. They pushed them around in
the trenches all game long. Fun stat on Sauce Gardner,
so he was matched up with Metcalf. He was on
him for thirty of Metcalf's thirty three routes. Thirty routes
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against Sauce. Metcalf had one catch for eleven yards. But
Jay Metcalf had a good game. Yeah, the three times
three times a thirty three routes. Sauce was not on him.
Metcalf three catches seventy two yards. Like, I mean, Sauce
Gardener is really good. There's a major drop off. They
lost DJ Reid obviously, I think he's with the Lions.
But I will give Aaron Rogers props. He was good.
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I thought Arthur Smith called an amazing game. Early on,
you could see the pressure was getting to Rogers, and
so instantly Smith scraps the game plan and starts going
with a lot of play action bootleg Rogers couldn't really run,
but the guys were open and a lot of dump
offs to compensate for the pressure, and it started to work.
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I don't think the Steelers are gonna be very good.
I was a little surprised that Kenneth Gainwell was like
the bell of the ball in the backfield. Jalen Warren
did nothing. I'm just telling you the Jets were the
better team. They basically led and then the Steelers score touchdown,
the Jets fumble the kickoff. Steeler scored like the next play,
and that was they got screwed on that. I think
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the Jets either missed an extra Oh, they missed a
two point conversion. That's why they land on thirty two.
There was a penalty early in the game when they scored,
and so they got it from like the one yard
line and they tried to run it in and it failed.
That was dumb. But I do like the aggression, like, hey,
we're not just gonna do what Jason wants to do
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and kicked the extra point to vote that seven. We're
going to be aggressive, and they were aggressive, and I
gotta say it was fun watching the Jets for the
first time in a long time. Rub Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
One.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
I was watching that game while I was cruising the
outlet mall. Now had it on the phone. I'm walking
with the out what. Yes, you know I can't shop
at at that sax fifth like you can.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Oh, you got to you got to hit the OUTLA
Malls on Saturday's Dog, not Sunday.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I mean when I was there when they first opened,
like you know, ten am. Yeah, in and out, Bro.
But no, like to your point the hour New York
Jet Hour anymore, because the week one is started, they're
no longer.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
They're no longer our Jets, but your Jets.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
They were easily the better team, you know they they
outgained the Steelers by one hundred and twenty plus yards. Yeah,
they were fifty percent on third down, They had the
time of possession by nine minutes. The difference was you
mentioned it a fumble on a kick return, And that
was the reason why I was surprised at Aaron Glenn
actually called him out, like directly where he's like, hey,
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that kind of stuff can't happen, and basically said, if
anything similar happens again, this guy might be out of
a job. Is Avery Gibson. But Justin Fields looked like
a above average NFL quarterback And I never thought I
would say that, like the knockout. Just the Field has
always been Yeah, he's a great athlete, but he can't throw.
And he goes sixteen for twenty two to two eighteen
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a touchdown and no picks he runs into. I'm surprised
by the two rushing touchdowns, but like.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
He looked really good.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
That offense looked like it was in the twenty first
century for one. Yeah, like it hadn't looked like that
in years. And so I'm sure the defense with Aaron
Glenn back there, the controls will eventually settle down, and
you know they're not gonna be giving up thirty plus
points every week to whoever they play. But even at
the end, when when they had a chance to go
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and get that field goal, it took too all pro
level plays by Jalen Ramsey to preserve that win, like
one with the pass breakup and the second one with
the Gary Wilson hit which was unbelievable. But they, as
you are a Jets fan, Jets fans like j Mac
should be feeling very optimistic about their team moving forward.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Before I get to Monday
night football, best bets real quick, Rob Chargers Chiefs. I mean,
I did prattle on all off season about how I
don't think this Chiefs Chiefs team has it, and they
were awful in the first half. Obviously we knew they'd
come back because it's freaking Mahomes. They come back, but
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the defense just couldn't stop justin Herbert. I mean Herbert
on the on the go ahead drive or the deciding
drive to win the game. Well, I believe it was
eight for eight, like he was just carving him up.
The defense is not good. And then you see Chris
Jones forgetting to contain on the game deciding play where
Herbert ran for fifteen around the side and his team
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mate the white guy, Shoot, I'm spacing on his name, Uh, TRENTQ,
will I forget till Yeah? He he's getting in Chris
Jones's face and they're drawing like blame game finger pointing,
and you're like, oh shit, Week one, Huh what's that
flight like? Back to Kansas City? I did not think
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anybody look good. They lose Worthy to the separated shoulder.
I don't know what that means for his future. I
think I saw he's gonna try to play through it
with a brace like good luck, bro. The Chiefs go
home and host Jalen Hurts in the Eagles. Uh Sunday,
Oh that's a four to twenty five game on Fox.
So there's a world where the Chiefs are staring zero
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and two in the face. Now. They will beat the
Giants in week three, but after that they host the
Ravens and they couldn't stop Herbert. I am very curious
to see what happens against the Eagles and Ravens one
in three start in their future. I don't know we'll
see any quick thoughts on the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Rub Yeah, I mean they don't look like I mean,
I didn't go as far as you were. You said
that they were gonna miss the Blast, but I didn't
have them winning the division. I felt pretty comfortable with
that one. Like, I just don't think that you can
just assume that, oh, yeah, they'll be fine, Like did
you see the way they won last year? Like everyone
points to fifteen and two, but you're like, you had
every single like bad juju type play that could happen
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work in your favor throughout the season, and now this
year starts off where it kind of goes against you.
Like Xavier Worthy getting a dissocated shoulder because he ran
into Travis Kelsey is something you might see in Pop
Warner like doesn't happen at the NFL level, right, And
so I'm I think they'll win ten, maybe eleven games,
but I don't see them being anything close to the
Super Bowl contender. I came away wholly impressed though with
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the Chargers. That was the best game I've seen Justin
Herbert play ever. He looked awesome. I mean, he's always
had the prototype and he's always been the guy, even
more so than Josh Allen Lamar. Where's like, if you're
gonna design a quarterback in a lap, he looks like
Justin Herbert. He throws like just and Herberty accurate. He
is big, as strong as fast. But it's one thing
to do that kind of stuff in the first three
quarters and it looks great. The numbers look great, but
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you don't necessarily have like that clutch gene. He made
every big play down the stretch and he looked awesome.
And that team I think is going to be a
real problem.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
In the afc OH show, all right, that is it
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Speaker 2 (37:51):
All right on the Monday night football vikings at the
Bears vikings one point favorites on the road. If you're
looking at propaction, this is interesting. JJ McCarthy is lined
at two hundred and twenty passing yards over under Caleb Williams.
Is it to eighteen?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Really?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
That was mildly surprising. Do you guys really think Kevin
O'Connell's gonna have JJ McCarthy come out in his first
start at night Island game on the road and just
be slinging it all over the field. I don't see
that now. I'm not doing the under because I do
want to see McCarthy. We haven't seen enough of him.
I mean, there's a world where it's a heavy Aaron
Jones Jordan Mason game on the ground for the Vikings
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and then dump offs with the occasional splash attempt to
Justin Jefferson. But I just that felt high, at least
to me for JJ McCarthy. I will say the one
prop I'm looking at, you know, first touchdowns kind of fun.
Colston Lovelin has shown well. I do think plus nine
hundred he could be worth a flyer Bears. I don't
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know that they'll be able to run it in against
his Flora's defense. I'm telling you, man, Flora's defense is
going to come to play. They are a feisty bunch,
shall we say, And I think they could be coming
after him. So who does the quarterback love when he's
under heavy duress. You're gonna have time to go downfield,
the tight ends, the dump off. So Colton Loveland a
guy I would be looking at the young kid out
of Michigan. I don't have anything on the side yet.
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I mean, I guess I would take the Vikings. But
in the primetime games, remember last week, the Cowboys were
significant underdogs. They showed well covered. Chargers were underdogs one outright.
That was the neutral site game. Cowboys were on the road,
Vikings on the road here, I mean, Ben, the problem is,
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this is Ben Johnson's debut. I don't know what to expect.
I did not think they look particularly sharp in the preseason.
And you know there was a story that came out
this I think it was Friday from Tyler Dunn, who
were gonna have on the pod. I believe Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
one of the days this week he did this deep dive,
extensive stuff on Caleb Williams and is not positive. A
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lot of behind the scenes stuff from last season just
pretty ugly and it had Bears fans in a tizzy
if you will. I don't know that you can get
in a tizzy in twenty twenty five or anybody says that,
but it's the best word I could come up with
on the fly, and it just gives the whiff of
this is a big year for Caleb Williams, Like the
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kind where it's like, hey, we believe in Ben Johnson
and if he can't fix Caleb in a year, we're
gonna have to look for a new quarterback. That was
the vibe I got reading the story. But again, we'll
have Tyler done on this week, So I'll go Vikings
twenty three Bears twenty in what should be a pretty
good game actually, and that would put it right about
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on the total, would it not? Total of forty four? Yeah,
so slight lean to the under. Just two young quarterbacks,
you know, in prime time. I don't see fireworks in
this one, but hell, I didn't see fireworks in Jet Steelers.
It was the lowest total on the board and it
was a barn burner, as we discussed. Anyway, that's it
for today. We are back tomorrow. I just have to say, folks,
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it was a damn good Sunday gambling. Listen. You own
your wins, you own your losses, but all the good
bets seem to hit Ravens minus one. The under in
Texans Rams was kind of a no sweat winner. I did,
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let's see just quickly buzzing through the Broncos depending on
the number you got, hit Packers, which was one of
my favorites. The Falcons was the one that really hurt
Giants kind of stung a little bit, but the Browns
made up for it. I did have the Dolphins in one,
but then I noticed it was like, oh my gosh,
they're not even trying, and I live bet this is
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I don't recommend this, but I'm looking at it now.
Live bet Colts minus twenty and a half after like
two or third in or a third turnover, and I
was just like, okay, let me just get the Colts
in that. That hit so so interesting stuff in one,
three and two in the contest, all the survivors are alive.
It's it's it's a good time to be betting on sports,
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and we'll talk to you tomorrow
This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is a straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Straight fire.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
For Monday, September the eighth. If you live in Orchard Park,
New York, or you're a Buffalo Bills fan boy, you
are waking up like you won the Super Bowl today.
I mean, listen Week one in the NFL. Not totally done,
Vikings Bears tonight on Monday Night Football, but oh my gosh,
what a capper to just an absurd Sunday that was
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bonkers capped with. I mean, one of the great comebacks
that I can remember in Week one. Listen the NFL
primetime games in Week one delivered. So Thursday you had
Cowboys Eagles. Before the first play the game, you've got
a guys getting ejected for spinning. Dallas has a chants
in the final two minutes fails. Then Friday night in
(01:04):
South Polo, you've got oh, the Chiefs, they're coming back,
they're gonna win. And then Justin Herbert big scrabble for
fifteen yards on the final drive down to the wire,
Chargers pull it out. And then you've got the Bills
down fifteen with four minutes left at home, fourth and two,
(01:25):
Josh Allen touchdown to Keyon Coleman, Derrick Henry fumble, Oh
my gosh, what's happening? And they missed the two pointed
version of course, Ravens three and out. Where's the Lamar
Jackson magic? And then Buffalo goes down because Josh Allen
is a stone cold killer, and the Buffalo Bills win
it on a chip shot field goal on a Sunday
(01:46):
where kickers kept missing, especially guys like mister Coup in Atlanta,
assuming he's still employed. That bastard cost me a win
in the in the circle millions that went three and two.
The Cleveland Browns kicker Holy Hell missed an extra point,
missed a field goal, forty nine Ers kickers Jake Moody
nearly cost him the game, couldn't kick anything, and the
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Bills get their kick and an unbelievable forty one to
forty game. Rob G and I were doing math before
we started recording the podcast. Okay, so Derrick Henry was
unfriggin believable. One hundred and sixty nine yards on the ground,
two touchdowns, three carries over thirty yards. I mean, he
just owns the Bills. Lamar Jackson had a really really
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good game through the air, two hundred nine yards, two touchdowns.
On the ground, had the best nineteen yard scramble you'll
ever see. He went back twenty five yards, somehow ran
away from Bosa and someone else and then and magically
picks up nineteen. So those two guys combined for four
hundred and eighteen yards of offense. They were spectacular. Josh
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Allen by himself had four hundred and twenty four yards
of offense. Folks, I don't know what we're doing in
the NFL right now. Like Patrick Mahomes generational talent, he
is amazing. We know Lamar Jackson has two MVPs. Like,
I don't see how you're watching that and saying, oh
my gosh. Josh Allen is freaking unbelievable. The throws he makes,
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the scrambles, he makes it look easy. The one thing
Josh Allen cannot do his kryptonite is basically the Toost push.
It continues to be a disaster for him. He tried
to fake the Toust push to go around the end
and got destroyed. I was like, oh my gosh, is
he hurt? But Josh Allen heroic. Bill's pull out to win.
And that's a huge, huge win for Buffalo because their schedule, remember,
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is not difficult. That gives them the inside track for
the number one seed, and he head to head with
the Ravens, they're gonna win that the Chiefs already suffered
in l Folks, the NFL. Listen, I was all prepared
to come on here talk about my Jets. You know,
I got some rock birdy material. Listen, the Jet played
great rockberdy material. He was hackular, yes, despite two picks,
(04:02):
and obviously the Green Bay Packers I thought looked like
one of the best teams in the league. And then
you watch Sunday Night Football and Josh Allen's out here
throwing to nine different guys, and you guys know, every
Sunday during NFL season, I'm ordering food. I don't want
to say exactly where're from, but I'm ordering It's unhealthy
with wings, it's cheese sticks, it's bread Stix, pizza, whatever
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it is. Five of the guys could have delivered five
of the Buffalo Bill's pass catchers from Sunday. I could
have delivered the food. I would have been like, yeah,
I don't know who this guy is. I mean Honestly,
we just saw heroic stuff from Josh Allen and you
can't knock Lamar. Derek Henry had the unfortunate fumble. But
I don't know, this is one of those like it's
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not like the Ravens blew it. They were great. You
score forty points on the road, you gotta win. But
it was basically, Josh Allen just stole the game. I
don't know, Robert, I'm in all of Josh Allen and
that was some crazy shit.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, but that lightly, I would say, that's crazy shit.
You know what's funny is we'll pull back to curtain
real quick for all of our P one listeners. So
you had text me earlier in the game when the
Ravens looked like they were gonna.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Win this one going away, and you're like.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Hey, we're up fifteen, let's start recording the pod and
then you know, we'll sneak in the Ravens there either
at the beginning at the end with the clever editing,
you know software, we'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And I was unavailable for whatever reason, and we weren't
able to record till after the game was over.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It's like, well, God, damn. We happy that I was
unavailable to record.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
We had an incident classic on Sunday Night Football, and look, man,
we're running out of adjectives to describe Josh Allen. We've
talked about that now for years since we're doing this podcast,
and we were talking before we started recording, and one
thing we were saying was, even after this game, are
you sure that Buffalo is the better team? And I
think we both agreed, Like, no, I still think Baltimore
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top to bottom is a better roster. They are a
better team that Yet, if this was like a neutral site,
I think you would still be fam ring Baltimore and
I think we agree on that. And I'm not gonna
say anything that's gonna to disparage Lamar Jackson anyway. I
think Lamar Jackson is phenomenal. I think he has been
the best player in football for a couple of years now.
I absolutely believe he was robbed of an MVP last season. Like,
(06:15):
if you look at the numbers, they were godlike it
should have been Lamar Jackson's MVP. But when you watch
that game last night, you kind of come away with
a better understanding exactly as to why the voters went
with Josh Allen instead of Lamar Jackson, because when I
watch Lamar Jackson play, as great as he is and
as obscene as his numbers are, I always get the
feeling that I'm watching Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens,
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like he is the front man, He's Michael Jackson, but
the rest of that group is also really good, like
they're also the Jackson Five, Like it's justin Timberlake and encinct.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Like they're really really really.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Talented up and down that roster. When I watch Buffalo,
it's Josh Allen and Josh Allen and Josh Allen and
Josh Allen. It's like, if you're gonna beat them, or
if he's if the Bills are gonna beat you, it's
gonna because Josh Allen was special. It's because he's the
one who put on his cape, went he went into
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the telephone booth Clark can't turn into Superman, and he
carried you to a win.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And he does that.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Over and over and over and over, and it seems
like the only Kryptoni, if we're going to use that
Superman analogy that he has, is facing Patrick Mahomes in
the postseason but if you look at the numbers, if
he's playing anybody else, Josh Allen probably has multiple super
Bowls because there's moneys. He has money in the postseason. Like,
Josh Allen is so good and he's so special, and
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it's it's just crazy to me that again, I don't
know what to say about him. He's awesome. And then
there's a reason why I think Buffalo is the AFC's gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Run through them.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Like you mentioned, he's that good. If you went to
bed early, like, oh, come on, they're up fifteen, I'm
not staying up for this. These are mind boggling stats.
So the Ravens got in the red zone three times,
that's it. Because of the long touchdowns. The Bills got
in the red zone seven times. They scored five red
zone touchdowns. This is staggering. The Ravens had so many
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big plays, Henry breaking off stuff, Lamar eight point six
yards per play. The Bills defense and who is it?
Tarico and collins Worth kept talking about it. The Bills
defense looks slow as shit. On the backet. They can't
stop anybody. I mean, they can't guard anybody, and the
safeties are slow. Taylor rap just getting Roasted taken awful angles.
The Ravens average eight point six yards per play. They
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were in fifty plays, eight point six yards per clip.
That's unst I mean, that's just unbelievable. Meanwhile, the Bills
were in seventy eight plays because they're kind of, you know,
spreading the ball around. Nine different guys caught passes and
they put up six point four yards per play. But
they just kept moving on a good Ravens defense. I mean, Rob,
this is one of those I'll be shocked if one
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of these, if both of these two aren't in the
ANFC title game. I know it's a long season and
you don't want to overreact, but like I watched a
lot of football, I'm well aware of the Chiefs folks,
Kansas City Chiefs are not. I mean, maybe when ra
Sheid Rice returns they'll look a little more explosive. Not
they cannot hang with these guys. They just can't. Like
Mahomes can only do so much, and defensively they're just
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not good enough. I mean, I like Jim Harball a lot,
and maybe the strategy is, hey, you've got to play
keep away from Josh Allen, right, just run the ball,
which is what the Ravens did. The problem is they
keep scoring so quickly that Josh Allen keeps getting the
ball and you can't stop Josh Allen. It's I mean,
it was one of those crazier games out rob. Here
are the next few Ravens games. So they visit the
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Jets this week. They will be favored by I don't know,
seven four seven something like that. Okay, the Jets lost.
The Jets are plucky, but they lost. Then they played Miami.
Miami looked like straight up the worst team in the league.
In Week one, they got their asses kicked by the Colts.
It was a beat down. The Colts scored on every
possession and Daniel Jones was their quarterback. Miami had injuries
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two of that three turnovers. Miami looked dreadful. Then the
Bills play New Orleans and I watched Spencer Ratler. I
want some money on Arizona. Spencer Ratler, ain't at Saints
are not a threat. Then they played New England. New
England did not look very good, losing to Rob Ji's Raiders.
Then they play Atlanta, and Atlanta you know there's probably
something there, but I'm gonna be real. I was just
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distraught at there's just not a smart football team. So
now assuming to get by the Jets, you're looking at
Buffalo six to zero heading into their bye week. They
come out of it, they smash Carolina, which they will do.
Then it's a big showdown against Kansas City at home. Folks.
I'm not gonna talk undefeated because they still have to
play the Eagles and they have to play Burrow. But
all their tough games are at home. They got the
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Ravens at home, they get the Chiefs at home, they
get Borrow at home, and they get Jalen Hurts at home.
They do have to travel to Houston, but if you
watched Houston Rams, that Houston offensive line just got it
is just not good. And I think they lost two
guys to injury. Obviously it's it's early, we'll see. But
the biggest takeaway big picture week one, Rob, would you
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would you agree Buffalo Bill's the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I mean I would still go Baltimore probably.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay, fine, fine, I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll
accept Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
No.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
But like you're spot on, I don't want anyone say
that we're overreacting, like oh, it's only one game. It's
only week one, Like, yeah, it was a great game,
but no, no, what you don't understand is, and you mentioned
it did just look at the schedule. Even though I
believe that Baltimore is the best team in the NFL,
this game is so big because it, like I said,
it likely means that the AFC playoff race is gonna
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run through Buffalo because you look at that schedule you
mentioned in New York, Miami, New Orleans, New England, Atlanta,
and then the bye. Look at Baltimore schedule before their
Week seven bye. Okay, it's Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, Houston, Rams.
I'm not saying that that Baltimore can't run whatever five
and oh go like going into the week seven by like,
that's totally possible because they're that good, they're that dangerous,
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and they'll be I'm sure there'll be that more motivated
after what happened here last night. But it's not the
same kind of tiptoe through the tulips that Buffalo has.
So this Week one game that again you say, hey,
it's week one. We got a long season, we got
sixty more games, we got four months to play.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's a long.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Season, right, this one game could ultimately be what leads
to a split between at fifteen and two Buffalo and
a fourteen and three Baltimore, or maybe they're both fourteen
and three and hey, tiebreaker goes to Buffalo. Had to
head like this game was so big for Buffalo to
get the win, not only because the way they did it,
but because now they are one thousand percent in the
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driver's seat to get home field advantage in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm still kind of shook as we record this after
midnight on Monday.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
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Speaker 2 (12:56):
I mean listen. We're not going to cover every single game,
I do think though. My second biggest takeaway was how
good the Green Bay Packers looked and how inept the
Detroit Lions looked. Now, I got a couple buddes who
were Lions fans. One of them actually was like, dude,
you're so high on the Broncos and down on the Lions.
Bet me who will have more wins? And I was like, well,
the Broncos have a lower wind to no, no, no, you
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think that bet straight. So we have this bet and
then the Lions come out and Rob, I don't know
how much of this game you watched, but I mean
Green Bay just had them in a choke hold the
entire game. I mean it was twenty seven to six
deep into the fourth quarter before like a garbage time
touchdown made it somewhat respectable. I have to be honest, Rob,
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I did not see anything from Detroit. This was an
ass whooping. Detroit had under two hundred yards heading into
the final drive, three point eight yards per play. I
put up a joke, and of course people didn't think
it was funny that Ben Johnson, sorry Jared Goff with
how Ben Johnson looks like Zach Wilson. And you know,
maybe that was harsh, But if you look at the
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next gen stats, Jared Gosta throwing the ball down the field,
nothing like it's all in a phone booth. Now, some
of that is the offensive line, right. They had ragnow
retire lost another interior offensive lineman. Presto. Pressure up the
middle killed Golf. He was sacked four times. And it
wasn't just Micah coming off the edge. Micah would do.
They would do the stunt where Micah would pretend like
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he's going outside and then cut inside, and then they
would have the inside guy bounce outside and it just
cave Detroit fits all night. I mean, they couldn't run.
Detroit could not run the ball. Gibbs who I was
told by some people who are like a top three
fantasy pick, I'm like, what nine carries for nineteen yards?
And again Green Bay. You know, I think he's super
Bowl bound, probably now in the NFC, and not just
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because of Week one, but I thought that late after
the Micah Trader was like, both Ta comes comes on
here hypes of packers with some numbers. Then you add
Mica to that. I like the Golden pickup. Ten different
guys caught passes from Jordan Love. They got a lot
of weapons, and I I mean again, Jordan Love was good.
I know, he threw the one pick that was it
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was like a penalty that erased it. He did. Jordan
Love was not amazing sixteen or twenty two for a
buck eighty eight with two touchdowns, but he was totally efficient.
You got Dobbs, Reid Wicks, Tucker Kraft, my guy with
a nice, nice little game out of the head of
Tuddy for my fantasy team, and the defense I thought
was just everywhere. Again, I'm lower than market on the Lions,
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I'm higher on the Packers, and I don't know rob
Detroit by the way, next week against the Bears, now
it's at home, which is good for them, after that
at Baltimore, So if they don't win that, Detroit's quickly
looking at an ozer win three start.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, and it's now I'm not going to go out
and say right away that I definitely have the Packers,
even though I had the Packers in the preseason to
win that division. But a lot of it had to
do with as you mentioned, the overhaul on the offensive
line is not nothing right. When you're replacing two very good,
you know, borderline all pro level players, all your and
you're replacing both of your coordinators, there's gonna be some
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kind of adjustment period. There's gonna be a learning curve.
There was no way they were gonna go fifteen to
two again. You know, natural regression means that you're probably
going twelve thirteen wins. Then EF factor in the other stuff,
then maybe you're down to ten eleven wins, and so
I knew it was going to be a slow start.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I didn't expect them to look that bad though. That's
the thing.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
And to your point, if you look at the raw numbers, hey,
Jared Goff was completing like seventy five percent of his passes.
The problem was there was no threat to push the
ball down the field whatsoever. Thirty nine completions for two
hundred and twenty five yards is not or twenty thirty
one completion two hundred five years is not great. The
big thing is that they could not run the ball
to save their lives. When gibbson Montgomery combined for twenty
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carries for forty four yards, yeah, like that's not Detroit
Lions football. And once this new old line gels, I'm
sure sometime maybe by maybe mid October or right around
the Halloween, then they'll be fine. But it is going
to be a very different Detroit Lions team here early on.
And I mean, the Packers look good, man, and even
with Mike only playing spot duty, he was impacting the
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pass rush a little bit, and they look really really dangerous.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Let's go where we're gonna go now, brock Purty, Okay,
we just spent a couple of moments here on Party.
For whatever reason, he remains one of the most polarizing
I don't know, can I say athletes instead of just
NFL players, because for whatever reason, people just don't like
Rock Party. He throws a pick, and my boy who
I played football with, who was a quarterback at Notre Dame,
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text me, Jay, you gotta chill with the brock purty
stuff like after the interception, and Cowherd light me up. Oh,
there's Rock Party struggling in Seattle. Let's just take a
deep breath here. Opinions are fine, They're great. I'm just
gonna hit you with some numbers. So, first of all,
George Kittle leaves the game in the second quarter with
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a hamstring. Okay, Deebo Samuels in Washington, he was good
in the opener. Yukes On puplist ir whatever. He's out
for like six weeks. Juwan Jennings, who came in as
their two number two receiver, left with the shoulder range
in the second half. So now it's fourth quarter on
the road against the top ten defense from last year,
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and it's Oh, I've got Christian McCaffrey and Ricky piersoll
and who the hell else, and Purty starts forcing shit
and he has two bad interceptions, undeniable. There's nothing you
could do. He made two bad passes, yet he gets
the ball back down three. Let's go hits Ricky Piarsol
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deep down the sideline, makes a couple of plays, and
then on third and three he's rolling out inside the five.
And I don't want to say it was a Josh
Allen yolo ball. Rob can say that if he wants,
but he's like, I gotta throw it in there, and
forces a ball to someone named Jake t n g S.
I don't even know how he pronounced that tongs Tungus.
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I'd never heard his name in my life. He had
zero catches in his career coming in this game. He
snags it and the Niners get to touchdown and take
the lead. Now this is where it gets interesting, Rob.
So everybody says party was awful? Are you ready for this?
Perty got lucky for the game. Seattle had two hundred
thirty yards against this rebuilt Niners defense. Right, rebuilt Niners defense.
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Seattle at home, two hundred thirty yards, Rock Party on
the Road down Weapons Galore three hundred and eighty four
yards of offense, got to the red zone five times,
seven for fourteen on third down. The niners, I know
the perception Rob is oh Man. Those interceptions are Party.
The numbers say he was by a mile better than
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Sam Darden. It's not his fault Rock Party that the
kicker shanked an easy one and then had the next
kick block. If you saw Shanahan on the sideline, he's
losing his mind. Afterward, they were like something about a kicker.
He's like, nope, not talking about that. It was very
clear that they're gonna have kicker tryouts Hurdy. And and
how about this stat from NFL. Purdy was pressured on
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fifty fifty seven percent of his dropbacks. Rob the most
in any game in his career under pressure thirteen of
twenty buck twenty six. Both picks were under pressure, but
he had a touchdown. That is as gritty of a
performance as you will find from the seventh thron pick.
He's gonna catch heat. I know people are gonna light
them up. While he was terrible, look at these interceptions.
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They weren't great, not gonna lie, they were bad, But
when it mattered most, he made a play. And of
course Darnald fumbles in the red zone. By the way,
he just fumbled. He was feeling the pressure from bosup
brings the ball back in like his wind up and
just lost the ball and the Niners recover it, and
then I get the dub. I was It's weird. I
wasn't heavily invested financially in that, but I feel emotionally
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I'm team Brock Purdy and to get this win man Rob.
I felt so happy for Purdy. I've never met Purdy,
I've I don't know his agent, no connection whatsoever, but
I just I root for this guy.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
It sounds like he's like your He lives like three
doors down and you guys played pickup ball or you
see him walking the dog every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Like, yeah, I'm a Brock Purtty guy too.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
And I think gritty is the right word because I
watched a lot of that game on the big TV
ad that's smaller the iPad with some of the other games,
but that was the big screen, and I didn't think
he looked great when I was watching him play. Like
you mentionedly thrown force in a lot of stuff. It
was way too much Christian McCaffrey for a guy coming
off with little calf issue from a couple of days ago.
To get thirty one touches coming off of that probably
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not ideal. I don't know if I would have done
that to a guy who's way too already, But he
did what he had to do to win. And you
look at the raw numbers, and again they're not eye popping.
You mentioned, you know, basically like two hundred and ninety
yards or so total.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, touchdowns, two picks.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
But then and then, and I know this is gonna
sound weird because we just saw that that barn Burner
there in Buffalo with josh Ana Lamar Jackson. But then
you go across the league you look at some of
the other guys like Matthew Stafford went for two forty
five and his team scored fourteen points.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Like CJ.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Stroud goes for like two fifteen total and his team
scores nine points. Bo Nicks has a couple of turnovers
against a terrible team. It's like, maybe it was just
an average day for most NFL quarterbacks on Sunday. The
difference was that Brock perty down two of his top
what three receiving options and four or three if you
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count Branton and Ayuk, and he just found ways to win.
He found ways to get it on a day when
his special team was terrible, when his best player is
nicked up and he's only getting two yards to carry. Anyways,
he just made a little bit of play here, a
little play there, a key third down conversion here. You
mentioned that throw there at the end.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It was a Yollo ball. We'll say that.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I don't know if he really meant to throw at
the way that he wanted to, but it was a
great catch. But again, all that matters is you win,
my guy. Joe Burrow looked terrible against the Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Browns, and he does every year.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, but they won, so nobody's going to care and
the difference, And honestly, I think Joe Burrow probably looked
worse than Brock Purty. You know, he's say for the interceptions,
but he's not gonna get the same kind of heat. They're
gonna say, Oh, Joe Burrow finally got a Week one
to win, big start there for the Bengals. But Brock Purdy,
because the perception is that he's mister irrelevant, he's the
seventh round pick, he's never worked the contract. Everyone's always
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looking to poke holes in him, and I thought he did,
you know, just enough to win as very like you said,
a gritty performance.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I'm gonna have to ride with him. It's funny. I
did just look at Seattle. Oh my gosh, it's crazy.
So they did not have a carry longer than nine yards,
and only one player had a double digit reception and
that was Jackson's spent the jigba. Everything else was within
ten yards. Basically, it is an ultra vanilla offense. They
don't want Donald to make mistakes, and then he ends
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up making a mistake at the end. I mean there's
a rebuiltners defense. I think four new starters unbelievable. You
mentioned Bo Nick, So I'm just gonna touch on this.
Depending on the number you got Broncos did or didn't cover,
it was seven seven and a half eight eight and
a half. They win by eight. Bo Nicks was terrible.
There's no way around it. He was awful, throwing off
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his back foot, across his body, terrible decisions. He had
two interceptions and a fumble, and on fourth down he
tried like a tush pust and he tried the Josh Allen,
I'm gonna bounce off I'm not gonna go up the middle.
I'm gonna go to the left. And then he like
trips and wipes out, doesn't get it like he was awful.
Nearly cost the Broncos. By the way, that was the
team we had and the Survivor the one hundred thousand
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dollars buy in Survivor. I there was some sweats on
this in the fourth because they couldn't really put away
cam Ward. I didn't think cam Ward was bad, but
they did sacond six times rookie on the road. But
the bigger, bigger story, bo Nixt look look terrible. He
did not look good or all the Broncos. And I
was texting my buddy this. They looked like a team
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that read their clippings all off season. Rob Oh shit,
we good we are. We got top defense in the league.
Bo Nix is the man and Sean Payton had some
very questionable decisions, whether it was going for, whether it
was a bomb on fourth down late in the game
instead of a Poots punt or a field Well, I
don't I don't know what Peyton was doing. Some really
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weird decisions. Now did you watch any of that?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
That was the one I had on the smallest screen.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Once I started watching it, and I was kind of
locked in there for a minute, but it was just
it was bad football. It was bad football, so it
was very easy to be like, hey, I'll put that
one on the phone, like six feet away, so it's on.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I'm not really watching it.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
And I was very upset at the end, as you mentioned,
because I got an eight and a half so for
them and only win by eight really pissed me off.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Uh, do you want to talk about your Raiders because
I didn't watch a ton of that, but I do
know Gino Smith, I think had the most passing yards
until Josh Challenger thrown him. Gino Smith went off three
hundred and sixty two. All I heard was the wide
receiving Corse is nothing. Amari Cooper retired and then Brock
Powers gets hurt and it doesn't really matter because somebody
named Dante Thornton was okay, Michael Mayer came in, the
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young kid Jack Beach had a nice catch like Jacobe
Myers gets it done. Nice road win for the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, that's one of those games that any of the
last five years they lose going away, like because they
started off great, march right down the field touchdown, and
then they kind of just got stuck in the mud.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
The weather was part of it. Part of it was
they couldn't.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Run the ball at all, and historically, you know, under
previous regimes, that's the game that they just give up
by the middle of the third quarter, and you know
it was a close game, is suddenly a two score game,
and then you know, that's all she wrote. But it's
something you'll appreciate this as a Jets fan. Having a
competent quarterback completely changes your perspective on things. Having a
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coach that you know maybe is not the best coach
or in his prime or whatever, but you know that
he's not going to do anything really stupid or his
team's not going to be making dumb mistakes over and over. Like, hey,
if we lose, we're gonna lose, but it's gonna be
a close game. It's gonna be a competitive game. It
is what it is. So just having a guy like
Geno Smith, and he's somewhere between I don't know, the
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twelfth and eighteenth quarterback in football, but on a game
to game, week to week basis, he might be a
top five or six quarterback like you saw it, like
you're a little bit on on Sunday, like that makes
a huge difference because having a guy like Gino Smith,
when you can't run the ball at all, you're averaging
basically two yards of carry, and he comes down throws
for three sixty two with no threat of a ground game.
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He was getting beaten, battered, He got sacked four times,
and he still found ways to win, including that clutch
throw that at the very end, third and ten, they're
gonna run the clock out, he throws a deep fly
route to Thornton Junior to to ice the game.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Basically like that. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
And I know it's not gonna be last long season,
but let me just say to have the first place
Raiders does have a great ring to it.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah. No, that it was an impressive win for Gino.
I did. I didn't think Drake made looked particularly good.
But you say first place. They now host the Chargers
this Monday Night football. It says nine fifteen. I don't
even know what day that is.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
That is that that uh it is? It is Monday
night football and it's a it's a double header.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, she okay, that's at home, so.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
It might as well be a win two and O Raiders.
I can feel it.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Two and oh that they faced May, Herbert and Daniels
in the first three weeks. Okay, before we get to
Monday night football, best bet, let me just riff on
my Jets. I listen. I'm not one of these guys
who's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I jinxed it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
But when the Jets were rolling, I texted, you know,
my usual suspect Jets friends. I was like, guys, I
gotta be honest. They look freaking awesome. They're fun, they're scoring,
they're they're creative. I mean, Aaron Glenn on the sideline
is flexing after like three plays into the game when
they're sacking Rod, like, this is a fun team. Justin feels.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
He was good. There's no way around there. I saw
Rob with the Mia copa online. Reese Hall had so
much juice. Oh my gosh, the cuts, the speed, the power.
I mean, Brice Hall was outstanding. Garrett Wilson excellent until
the final play of the game where he got jacked.
The pass rush as predicted was good, got to Rogers,
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but they lose on a sixty yard field goal with
well like two minutes left. One minute left a sixty yarder.
I mean, listen, what do you want me to do?
Like it's a sixty yard field goal with one oh
three left from Boswell. I don't I don't know what
to say. You lose on a sixty yard field goal
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like that, that's a devastating loss. Afterward, Tomlin called his
kicker a serial killer. He's got a low post rate,
he can't wait to deliver. At some point, Rob's going
to do an interview and call me a serial killer. Yes,
because like, damn, Jay, you're doing what is this year
five of the podcast? Five days a week? Yeah, I
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mean we're not doing weekends. But that's I'm just conservatively,
let's say it's one hundred and two hund that's like
a thousand podcasts. That's insane that like people who do
a thousand podcasts stretch it out over like ten years.
There's no rush. I am kind of a serial killer
in that way. And I just can't stop watching this
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Jets offense and thinking, I'm so happy we're competent. Like
I know, we lost on the sixty yard bomb, but
the Jets rushed for one hundred and eighty two yards
against the vaunted Steelers defense. They pushed them around in
the trenches all game long. Fun stat on Sauce Gardner,
so he was matched up with Metcalf. He was on
him for thirty of Metcalf's thirty three routes. Thirty routes
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against Sauce. Metcalf had one catch for eleven yards. But
Jay Metcalf had a good game. Yeah, the three times
three times a thirty three routes. Sauce was not on him.
Metcalf three catches seventy two yards. Like, I mean, Sauce
Gardener is really good. There's a major drop off. They
lost DJ Reid obviously, I think he's with the Lions.
But I will give Aaron Rogers props. He was good.
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I thought Arthur Smith called an amazing game. Early on,
you could see the pressure was getting to Rogers, and
so instantly Smith scraps the game plan and starts going
with a lot of play action bootleg Rogers couldn't really run,
but the guys were open and a lot of dump
offs to compensate for the pressure, and it started to work.
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I don't think the Steelers are gonna be very good.
I was a little surprised that Kenneth Gainwell was like
the bell of the ball in the backfield. Jalen Warren
did nothing. I'm just telling you the Jets were the
better team. They basically led and then the Steelers score touchdown,
the Jets fumble the kickoff. Steeler scored like the next play,
and that was they got screwed on that. I think
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the Jets either missed an extra Oh, they missed a
two point conversion. That's why they land on thirty two.
There was a penalty early in the game when they scored,
and so they got it from like the one yard
line and they tried to run it in and it failed.
That was dumb. But I do like the aggression, like, hey,
we're not just gonna do what Jason wants to do
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and kicked the extra point to vote that seven. We're
going to be aggressive, and they were aggressive, and I
gotta say it was fun watching the Jets for the
first time in a long time. Rub Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
One.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
I was watching that game while I was cruising the
outlet mall. Now had it on the phone. I'm walking
with the out what. Yes, you know I can't shop
at at that sax fifth like you can.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Oh, you got to you got to hit the OUTLA
Malls on Saturday's Dog, not Sunday.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I mean when I was there when they first opened,
like you know, ten am. Yeah, in and out, Bro.
But no, like to your point the hour New York
Jet Hour anymore, because the week one is started, they're
no longer.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
They're no longer our Jets, but your Jets.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
They were easily the better team, you know they they
outgained the Steelers by one hundred and twenty plus yards. Yeah,
they were fifty percent on third down, They had the
time of possession by nine minutes. The difference was you
mentioned it a fumble on a kick return, And that
was the reason why I was surprised at Aaron Glenn
actually called him out, like directly where he's like, hey,
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that kind of stuff can't happen, and basically said, if
anything similar happens again, this guy might be out of
a job. Is Avery Gibson. But Justin Fields looked like
a above average NFL quarterback And I never thought I
would say that, like the knockout. Just the Field has
always been Yeah, he's a great athlete, but he can't throw.
And he goes sixteen for twenty two to two eighteen
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a touchdown and no picks he runs into. I'm surprised
by the two rushing touchdowns, but like.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
He looked really good.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
That offense looked like it was in the twenty first
century for one. Yeah, like it hadn't looked like that
in years. And so I'm sure the defense with Aaron
Glenn back there, the controls will eventually settle down, and
you know they're not gonna be giving up thirty plus
points every week to whoever they play. But even at
the end, when when they had a chance to go
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and get that field goal, it took too all pro
level plays by Jalen Ramsey to preserve that win, like
one with the pass breakup and the second one with
the Gary Wilson hit which was unbelievable. But they, as
you are a Jets fan, Jets fans like j Mac
should be feeling very optimistic about their team moving forward.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Before I get to Monday
night football, best bets real quick, Rob Chargers Chiefs. I mean,
I did prattle on all off season about how I
don't think this Chiefs Chiefs team has it, and they
were awful in the first half. Obviously we knew they'd
come back because it's freaking Mahomes. They come back, but
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the defense just couldn't stop justin Herbert. I mean Herbert
on the on the go ahead drive or the deciding
drive to win the game. Well, I believe it was
eight for eight, like he was just carving him up.
The defense is not good. And then you see Chris
Jones forgetting to contain on the game deciding play where
Herbert ran for fifteen around the side and his team
(35:00):
mate the white guy, Shoot, I'm spacing on his name, Uh, TRENTQ,
will I forget till Yeah? He he's getting in Chris
Jones's face and they're drawing like blame game finger pointing,
and you're like, oh shit, Week one, Huh what's that
flight like? Back to Kansas City? I did not think
(35:20):
anybody look good. They lose Worthy to the separated shoulder.
I don't know what that means for his future. I
think I saw he's gonna try to play through it
with a brace like good luck, bro. The Chiefs go
home and host Jalen Hurts in the Eagles. Uh Sunday,
Oh that's a four to twenty five game on Fox.
So there's a world where the Chiefs are staring zero
(35:44):
and two in the face. Now. They will beat the
Giants in week three, but after that they host the
Ravens and they couldn't stop Herbert. I am very curious
to see what happens against the Eagles and Ravens one
in three start in their future. I don't know we'll
see any quick thoughts on the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Rub Yeah, I mean they don't look like I mean,
I didn't go as far as you were. You said
that they were gonna miss the Blast, but I didn't
have them winning the division. I felt pretty comfortable with
that one. Like, I just don't think that you can
just assume that, oh, yeah, they'll be fine, Like did
you see the way they won last year? Like everyone
points to fifteen and two, but you're like, you had
every single like bad juju type play that could happen
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work in your favor throughout the season, and now this
year starts off where it kind of goes against you.
Like Xavier Worthy getting a dissocated shoulder because he ran
into Travis Kelsey is something you might see in Pop
Warner like doesn't happen at the NFL level, right, And
so I'm I think they'll win ten, maybe eleven games,
but I don't see them being anything close to the
Super Bowl contender. I came away wholly impressed though with
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the Chargers. That was the best game I've seen Justin
Herbert play ever. He looked awesome. I mean, he's always
had the prototype and he's always been the guy, even
more so than Josh Allen Lamar. Where's like, if you're
gonna design a quarterback in a lap, he looks like
Justin Herbert. He throws like just and Herberty accurate. He
is big, as strong as fast. But it's one thing
to do that kind of stuff in the first three
quarters and it looks great. The numbers look great, but
(37:08):
you don't necessarily have like that clutch gene. He made
every big play down the stretch and he looked awesome.
And that team I think is going to be a
real problem.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
In the afc OH show, all right, that is it
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Speaker 1 (37:27):
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your best bet.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
All right on the Monday night football vikings at the
Bears vikings one point favorites on the road. If you're
looking at propaction, this is interesting. JJ McCarthy is lined
at two hundred and twenty passing yards over under Caleb Williams.
Is it to eighteen?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Really?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
That was mildly surprising. Do you guys really think Kevin
O'Connell's gonna have JJ McCarthy come out in his first
start at night Island game on the road and just
be slinging it all over the field. I don't see
that now. I'm not doing the under because I do
want to see McCarthy. We haven't seen enough of him.
I mean, there's a world where it's a heavy Aaron
Jones Jordan Mason game on the ground for the Vikings
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and then dump offs with the occasional splash attempt to
Justin Jefferson. But I just that felt high, at least
to me for JJ McCarthy. I will say the one
prop I'm looking at, you know, first touchdowns kind of fun.
Colston Lovelin has shown well. I do think plus nine
hundred he could be worth a flyer Bears. I don't
(38:54):
know that they'll be able to run it in against
his Flora's defense. I'm telling you, man, Flora's defense is
going to come to play. They are a feisty bunch,
shall we say, And I think they could be coming
after him. So who does the quarterback love when he's
under heavy duress. You're gonna have time to go downfield,
the tight ends, the dump off. So Colton Loveland a
guy I would be looking at the young kid out
of Michigan. I don't have anything on the side yet.
(39:15):
I mean, I guess I would take the Vikings. But
in the primetime games, remember last week, the Cowboys were
significant underdogs. They showed well covered. Chargers were underdogs one outright.
That was the neutral site game. Cowboys were on the road,
Vikings on the road here, I mean, Ben, the problem is,
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this is Ben Johnson's debut. I don't know what to expect.
I did not think they look particularly sharp in the preseason.
And you know there was a story that came out
this I think it was Friday from Tyler Dunn, who
were gonna have on the pod. I believe Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
one of the days this week he did this deep dive,
extensive stuff on Caleb Williams and is not positive. A
(40:00):
lot of behind the scenes stuff from last season just
pretty ugly and it had Bears fans in a tizzy
if you will. I don't know that you can get
in a tizzy in twenty twenty five or anybody says that,
but it's the best word I could come up with
on the fly, and it just gives the whiff of
this is a big year for Caleb Williams, Like the
(40:20):
kind where it's like, hey, we believe in Ben Johnson
and if he can't fix Caleb in a year, we're
gonna have to look for a new quarterback. That was
the vibe I got reading the story. But again, we'll
have Tyler done on this week, So I'll go Vikings
twenty three Bears twenty in what should be a pretty
good game actually, and that would put it right about
(40:41):
on the total, would it not? Total of forty four? Yeah,
so slight lean to the under. Just two young quarterbacks,
you know, in prime time. I don't see fireworks in
this one, but hell, I didn't see fireworks in Jet Steelers.
It was the lowest total on the board and it
was a barn burner, as we discussed. Anyway, that's it
for today. We are back tomorrow. I just have to say, folks,
(41:04):
it was a damn good Sunday gambling. Listen. You own
your wins, you own your losses, but all the good
bets seem to hit Ravens minus one. The under in
Texans Rams was kind of a no sweat winner. I did,
(41:24):
let's see just quickly buzzing through the Broncos depending on
the number you got, hit Packers, which was one of
my favorites. The Falcons was the one that really hurt
Giants kind of stung a little bit, but the Browns
made up for it. I did have the Dolphins in one,
but then I noticed it was like, oh my gosh,
they're not even trying, and I live bet this is
(41:46):
I don't recommend this, but I'm looking at it now.
Live bet Colts minus twenty and a half after like
two or third in or a third turnover, and I
was just like, okay, let me just get the Colts
in that. That hit so so interesting stuff in one,
three and two in the contest, all the survivors are alive.
It's it's it's a good time to be betting on sports,
(42:07):
and we'll talk to you tomorrow
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