August 25, 2025 • 28 mins
On today’s episode, Jason discusses how Shedeur Sanders has developed a cult-like following in the sports world the same way Tim Tebow did back in the day, if we can expect a team like the Las Vegas Raiders to try and trade for Sanders now that their own backup quarterback has suffered a serious injury, which young quarterback impressed him the most in the preseason, and whether the New York Giants are the most likely team to go from worst-to-first next season in the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up, straight Fire?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Quem, It's me Jason MacIntire, Straight Fire for Monday, August
twenty fifth.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Up back baby nice.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
So a week off to recharge the old batteries. Oh yeah,
football season cover it up, and I need to recharge
batteries because this week hosting the Herd Coward is out
leading into the NFL season.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
He needs a breather, his fifth summer breather.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
But anyways, that nevertheless kiddingb but it was good to
have a week off. Went to Vegas, made some preseason futures.
I will reveal some of them later. I'll put some
on the The Graham. It was a fascinating week. My
kids started school. I know you don't care deeply about that,
but it is extremely humbling when you sit down and
you look and your kid is starting a freshman year
(00:59):
of heights. Cool. I swear it was like five minutes
ago that I was like, oh, yeah, my kids, he's
gonna be getting out of in elementary school soon.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And then boom, here it is, Oh I got a freshman.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I think Rob G's known me since my kids were like,
I don't know, I don't believe you think he's met
my kids, but he knew when I moved here I
had kids and he was the producer of the radio
show and my kids were like six and four, you know,
And now it's like, oh my gosh, fourteen and twelve,
and it's just it's crazy and I have to make
(01:30):
it admission. So we have done our best to hold
off no phone, no phone, you could do Apple Watch. Well,
we finally had to cave and got my freshman a phone.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And the only.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Reason is because the school essentially is like, yeah, you
need it. The teachers are essentially telling the kids, you know,
there's group projects you need to communicate, and some of
our stuff's done on these apps.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And it's like, well, well, there's no way around it.
You can't just borrow a phone. So we got him
a phone.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The wife and I sat down, this is funny with
the Apple you know, people at the Apple store, and
we were like, listen, this is where we're at, our
kids starting school.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
He's getting a phone.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
We need you to lock this ish up so he
can't do anything, it can't download anything. We walk out
of there thinking we got it, and my son's like,
oh yeah, I just downloaded this app.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We're like, what the hell you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Just one of these are It's tough, it's frustrating, it's NonStop.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But here I am.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
So it seems like I didn't miss a whole heck
of a lot last week. You know, college football did start,
but it was week zero. There was you know, the
Iowa State game was not terrible. And this coming weekend
we have Ohio State Texas, which I'm absolutely fired up about.
I cannot wait for that game. We'll do plenty on it,
probably have a guest or two leading into it. I
(02:44):
have not had a fantasy draft yet. I have a
few coming up here very short order. My bro had one,
and I kind of advised him on it. If any
of his league mates are listening, sorry, but they did
get upset because it's where people think like, oh, you
work at sports, you're too good for us in fantasy
we're not doing this. So they kind of rib him,
(03:05):
and when he makes a big.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Run, they're like, oh, this is your brothers dude.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
But like I was not totally prepared for his fantasy draft.
I'm getting ready for mine, and this week I rere prepare,
like forty eight hours before and I'll just say fourteen
teams is impossible, and I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'll just leave it at that for his league.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But I can tell you this, one guy that ain't
getting drafted in fantasy is Shador Sanders. And listen, it's
annoying that we even have to do this. He was
a fifth round pick. Okay, we talked about him in
at the.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Draft, leading up to the draft, after the.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Draft in July, in the preseason, we're still talking about
him because what happened over the weekend preseason Game three.
You know, Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel do fine in
the first half, Schaduur comes in in the second half,
playing with a bunch of guys who are going to delivering.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Uber eats or.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Amazon packages in a couple of weeks. And essentially, Shadour
was awful three of six fourteen yards, but worse of all.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He took five sacks.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And essentially the five sacks are what's really really being
scrutinized because obviously the offensive line wasn't there, but he
looked like Caleb Williams playing backyard football at USC and
it did not go well. But gets worse. If that's
actually possible, it gets worse. So they get the ball
back two minute drill. Oh hey, Shador, here's your chance,
(04:37):
and Kevin Stefanski pulls Shadoor for Snoop Huntley Tyrone Huntley,
who is a veteran, he's twenty seven second stint with
the Browns. It's almost as if Stefanski wanted to get
the win and trusted Huntley because he knows him, he's
been through the system. And of course Huntley leads him
down for the game winning field goal. But everybody's breaking
(04:57):
down the whole will uh stefan full shad Or.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Shadeur gets warming up.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I guess he's riding the bike to get ready to
go back in for the two minute drive, and then
all of a sudden he gets told no, and Shdu
kind of puts his.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Hands up like what what what's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
And of course that's great and grab gets a million
views going around, and then Stefansky's got to answer questions
about that, and it's just like it's never ending. And
I got a hot take on what I think the
outcome for Shadeur should be. But I'm just gonna go
here like this idea of a celebrity quarterback is just
(05:33):
it's it's not gonna it's not gonna work. And this
is why Shaduur fell in the draft. Folks, I'm sure
if you were on social media you saw some of
the takes. People are losing their minds. It is actually
reminiscent of when Tim Tebow was quarterbacking. Everybody loved Tibo.
They were passionate for Tebou. He just wasn't that guy
(05:56):
at the NFL stage.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Now he's a different.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Celebrity because he his parents weren't NFL players or famous,
but people just loved him because he was a legendary
college winner. They were rooting for this tough, gritty white
quarterback who won a lot of college and everybody thought
he's gonna be a great pro. And folks, some of
these takes from people are are they're all making it
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like a racial issue.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh why would he pull up? What's with the offensive line?
It was just a little sad.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And I'm sure you know, if you're in the Cleveland
front office, you don't give a rats ass about what's
happening on social media. But rob which you do care
about is the actual media coming in your building. Before games,
after games, before practice, after pret whatever it is. Asking
about your fifth round pick who's probably gonna start as
the third or fourth quarterback on your depth chart, that
(06:49):
aspect has to get annoying. And someone smart pointed out
how Kevin Stefanski has never had a normal quarterback room.
So twenty twenty one, there was Baker Mayfield's kind of injured.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
There was the Baker drama member. He tried to play
through the injury.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It was a total disaster, a goat, you know what,
and they move off of Baker. Then they go and
grab Deshaun Watson, but all of a sudden, he's got
the suspension and he's terrible when he comes back. So
then the next injury, Watson gets hurt. Next season, Watson
gets hurt. Then there's twenty twenty four, Watson's terrible, then
gets hurt again, and now he's got the Shaduur media circus.
(07:25):
So we're going on five years where Kevin Stefanski cannot
have like a normal quarterback existence, and I mean, I
just don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
What's the move here?
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Speaker 5 (07:52):
I mean, the problem is it looks like the movies
they're going to keep all four quarterbacks, which is something
I don't think makes any kind of sense, which is
front off his malp But this whole discourse surrounding Shador
standers has really jumped the shark in the last twenty
four to forty eight hours. You mentioned how he just
had a really rough go of it in his last
preseason game on Saturday. You know, so him, I would
(08:14):
have liked to see him get a opporunity the two
many drill. Ideally that had have been great, but he
did not have what I would consider it to be
an NFL caliber day on Saturday. And because he has
these sikophants, these you know, cult like following, similar to
Tim Tebow. As you referenced, there were legitimate members of
(08:35):
the media, not like fans, not like people on Twitter,
but legitimate people who work for legitimate websites and outlets
who have real pens and real microphones in their faces,
and they're saying, well, Kevin Stefanski obviously doesn't want to
see Schador sign. You know, that's why he put him
out there with the third string, and you know, four
fits of the offensive lineman that he worked with all
(08:56):
got cut on Sunday, So you know, it shows there's
some kind of bias against Shad door standard and it's like,
you realize, number one, if I were to play that game,
the idea that the offensive line in front of Shador
standers hates him so much that they don't want to
block for him, in itself is an indictment of Sugar Sanders.
(09:18):
Like that that's you know, that's Eddie Martel from the replacements, like,
we hate this guy so much, we're not gonna block
for m. So that's number one. If that's a fabrication,
that's a fairy till that's a movie. Like script number two,
you're suggesting that the coach is going out of his
way to ensure that this guy does not play well.
(09:40):
Do you understand that the coaches get paid to Do
you understand that the coaches have a job to do
as well? And what they don't want to tell you
is something that Pro Football focused let us know early
on Sunday just to give you context on what's going
on with Shudor Sanders. His average time to throw in
the prese was five point one to three seconds. What
(10:05):
Jason most good good NFL quarterbacks is anywhere between two
and a half to two and three quarter seconds.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
He was pressured nine out of eleven total dropbacks. Okay
on Saturday. Here's what makes that really frustrating. On those times,
the pressure only came in the first two and a
half seconds four times. On the flip side, Dylan Gabriel
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was pressured four times out of nineteen dropbacks. The pressure
came under two and a half seconds three times, which
tells you that the problem with Shador Sanders has nothing
to do with the offensive line, nothing to do with
the coaching, nothing to do with some bias against him.
It has to do with everything that NFL decision makers
were telling you new was coming out. He holds the
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ball too long, he backs up too much, He's always
looking to see the play open before he really lets
it go. Those are real issues that a lot of
young quarterbacks have. Caleb Williams has that issue right now
in Chicago, and I don't see anybody saying, well, hey,
it's the offensive line, it's Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
That's the reason why why Caleb Williams, can you know.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Get a pass off without getting sacknus because he has
a learning curve to deal with and because he should
door Sanders, He's getting ink coverage podcast like this one
talking about him when the reality is he hasn't looked
anything like an NFL.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Quarterback so far. I don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, it feels like Kenny Pickett's hamstring is the only
reason should do or hasn't been traded, or you could
say they trade Kenny Pickett, but rob, let.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Me just float this humor me.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Okay, Okay, So there was an injury to aid and
O'Connell of the raid is fractured. Something out six to
eight weeks, okay, Raiders are set. It started with Geno Smith,
a veteran who oh, by the way, started out as
a disaster with the Jets. The best or the worst
story I heard was that he was, you know, so
(12:18):
cocky and arrogant that he would show up to the
quarterback room in like a bathrobe, like like he just
like literally just rolled out of bed and the coaches
are looking at him like, bro, that's just not how
you act as a professional. And Gino so this is
now a veteran, he's bounced back from early struggles.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
He is set.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Nobody's supplanting him in Vegas. Their head coach is Pete Carroll,
a veteran coach, a seventy six year old battle axe
something like that, who is not going to have any
problems commanding the room. If you recall Shaduur Sanders during
the draft process, maybe it was December, January, whatever it was,
he had posted something about Vegas. He drove by the
(13:01):
stadium in Vegas and did some Instagram stories and he
was pretty keen on Vegas, according to multiple reports. If
you're the Raiders, do you try to buy low on
Shador Sanders, bring him in as hey developmental backup guy. Now,
the schefter did come out and say they want a
veteran backup, but that's you know, Aid O'Connell wasn't a veteran.
(13:22):
This is right right, right right, So I don't know
if I buy that, But I just wonder, Rob, is
there a world where you say, well, she can we
get him for a seven Browns will take him for
a seventh round pick, and Cleveland then rids themselves of
the circus. I'll guarantee you the media ain't gonna be
grilling Kevin Stefanski when Shadour's gone right, and then he's
(13:43):
the Raiders problem. And listen, you don't have to worry
about getting on the fild because you ain't not with
Gino Smith healthy. Now if if he is forced to play,
you do have amazing tight end in Bowers. You've got
a great running back in Genty. I don't know, I'm
just bitballing here. What do you think, Rob g wouldn't
would you feel if your Raiders traded by Low on schedule?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I wouldn't hate it. But I actually tweeted about that
on Sunday and it wasn't much door. I said, I
watched the Raiders end up trading for your Candy Piket
and I hate Anny pick. I don't think he cany
pickt is any good. But to your point, they want,
allegedly want a veteran quarterback and this would kind of
help Cleveland to consolidate the quarterback rub and make them
appear smarter than what they really are. As far as
Shador Sanders, I wouldn't hate the idea of him as
(14:28):
the backup quarterback because again, you're beginning him dirt cheap.
I just see no scenario where that happens, because they
could have easily drafted him in the fifth round, the
sixth round, and he has that personal relationship with Tom
Brady and that still didn't matter. And this is something
that you've touched on, and I think Albert Breer actually
was the one who said it on the Damn Patrick
(14:49):
Show last week. Shador Sanders fell out of the first
round because of NFL talent issues, right, because he doesn't
see the field too well. He's kind of a slow processor.
He's very accurate, he has a good enough arm, he's
a decent enough athlete, but just for NFL purposes, he
does not exhibit what they determined to be first round
quarterback trades, which is fine, right, Like that's the thing.
(15:11):
From then on, it was everything else that lets him
falling from the second round, the third round, the fourth,
or ultimately the fifth round. And it was because, as
you mentioned, everything he does is going to be a story,
good or bad. So the only situations to me that
would have made sense for him coming out of the
NFL draft would have been either a to go to
a team like Cleveland where there is no established quarterback
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where it's like, hey, an open competition. If this guy's
as good as you think he is, then he can
win this job outright, or you go somewhere where the
quarterback is so good and so established that there is
no question no matter what should do or Sanders does
in the preseason, this guy is our quarterback. Patrick Mahomes
is not getting benched in favor of George Sanders. Josh
Allen's not getting betch. Jo Burrow's not getting benched. You know,
(15:54):
a Jared Goff is not getting benched. Gino Smith. As
much as I'm a big fan of visiting a huge
upgrade in Vegas from what we had last year, I
would not consider Geno Smith to be one of those
guys where it's like, hey, if he has a stretch
where they go zero to three and he has one
touchdown five picks, we can't betch Gino Smith, you know,
because he's you know, he's a our starter, and that
(16:17):
is on the table for the Raiders. You have a
new offense, new offensive coordinator, Gino Kelly Baby. Gino Smith
had had some issues last season, you know, where you
got into a little gunslinger mode, especially in the red zone.
Where he was kind of fitting it where you shouldn't
supposed to, and you know you don't want to have
that on the table, right Eightan O'Connell is a non
threatening guy. Kenny Pickett is a non threatening guy.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Whoever they like.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Carson Wentz, who got signed on study, is a non
threatening guy. Shador Sanders, because of his fan base, is
a threat to anybody in quarterback. So I don't really
see that one happening with Vegas.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You know, it's interesting you bring up opportunities. So the
Colts named.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Anthony Richardson the backup, and Daniel Jones has won the
starting job. Daniel Jones was in Minnesota even after Sam
Darlad move on. Daniel Jones must have seen, oh, just
McCarthy kid is good, or McCarthy and O'Connell have a relationship.
I'm not gonna have a shot. Let me go elsewhere.
He identified the Colts as a great landing spot and
(17:18):
Stiken's smart and Richardson, you know, Daniel Jones wins the job.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Smart move.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You're right that.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I don't know if there's a great spot for Shador,
but Cleveland theoretically should have been a good one, right,
I mean it should have, but it didn't quite pan out.
I'm not saying it's over over because you never know,
guys get hurt, whatever. But I will say the New
York Giants look kind of smart given their uh their
situ defeated in the preseason. And Jackson Dart, who you know,
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marck the Giants for taking him. He was as as
good as any rookie quarterback in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I'll tell you this. He certainly looked better than whatever
the Saints are trotting out. Oh my said, team looks
terrible than anything. The Browns have Jackson Dart and again
it's working with Dabole. The numbers are great.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I identified this early guys, but he met with the
media and was like using, what's your name? Okay, Joe, Joe, Yeah, okay,
and like the media left him. He had an instant rapport.
There was no combativeness, there was no like question. They
liked him and Jackson Dart. He ain't gonna start the season,
but I will say this, I will be surprised if
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he's not on the field before Halloween. I just feel
like Russell Wilson not quite that guy anymore. And I
think Brian Dabele is going to be grasping and Strauss
to save his job. I think, Jae, if you give
me an over under, when will Jackson Dart start a game?
I would say before Halloween? Would you go before or after?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
I'll go well before Halloween. Oh okay, I could see
him starting, you know, by October first. You know they
start off one in three, two and two, and Russ
just kind of looks like the rest that we saw
at the Enn in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Where he's moonball or bust.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Then then I get told these that happening, and I'm
actually glad you brought the New York Giants.
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Speaker 5 (19:13):
It's well documented that basically every year there's a team
that goes worse to first, right. Since twenty two, twenty
five teams have done that, right, so basically more than
one a year it happens too. And I'm doing this
thought exercise on Friday ahead of the Oddo Couple Show,
which I actually filled in co hosting apparently did a
terrible job. I'm getting rip on YouTube about it.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
That's fun.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
But anyways, so there's eight teams this year that are eligible.
The Bears, the Browns, the Raiders, the Patriots, the Saints,
the Giants, the Niners, and the Titans. And anytime you're
trying to project something like this, I've always found it's
less about the team that you're picking and more about
the situation around them.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
So, I'm a Raider fan. I would have loved to
pick the Raiders go worse to first. The reality is
there's three ten win plus teams ahead of them, so
you would need a lot lot of people to fall
back to the pack for you to have a chance
to leap frog three teams, right, Like, that's really tricky.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Similar situation, I believe with the Bears.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
You know, the Bears have the Lions, the Vikings, the Packers,
all those teams I think want at least twelve games
last year, and so you know, to have one team
fall back, sure, but to have two or three is
really really tricky. And similar thing with the Niners. Like
the Niners, everyone was picking them because you know, Christian
McCaffrey's back, and they got Georgia Kittle and Brock Purty
looks like he's back, and you know they can't possibly
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be having the same kind of injury luck this year
they had last year. Again, the Rams and the Seahawks
both won double digit games last year, So you're asking
for a lot of things to go wrong for you
to go worse to first. And that's why I settled
on the New York Football Giants. Oh, come on, and
the reason being, I don't know if you saw this
article come out on Friday on CBS Sports. You mentioned
(20:52):
the Giants aren defeating the preseason the point differential of
plus sixty. They're the eight teams to two thousand and
nine to do that in the preseason. Of the previous seven,
six of them made the playoffs. Two of them went
on to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Wait, wait one more time.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Six of the seven made the player Six of the
previous seven to have a point differential of plus sixty
or higher in the preseason went on to make the playoffs.
Two of those six won the Super Bowl. The average
win total for a team that had a plus sixty
preseason differential is eleven wins a season. So by process
(21:31):
of elimination, you look at the New York Giants you
mentioned I believe their front four is the best.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Front FOIGN football point play period between.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Thibodeau and I think Abdua Carter was the best player
in the draft last season.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Right, Their defense should be good.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Malik Nahbors is a stud if their quarterback, and I
think Jackson Dart.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Has been a revelation in this preseason.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Like I would get a lot to talk about shudst Sanders,
it should be about Jackson Dart because he has been
otherworldly in this preseason. I think he's completely almost sevent
percent of his passes during his seventy yards three touchdow
no picks, also another fifty yards rushing in a touchdown
on the ground. So you consider all of that, and
then you look at the surrounding in that division. Obviously
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you got the Eagles at worst. I think they slide
back to a wild card no matter if it's the
Giants or anybody. I just think because they're such a
good team that loaded. The Cowboys are a weld documented
dumpster fire between Michael Parsons and the head coach Schattenheimer
doesn't look like any kind of control. And then with
the Washington Commanders, which is the popular pick for popular people,
Everybody loves the Washington Commanders because Jayden Daniels is the monster,
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and I think long term, jay and Daniels is going
to be in that upper upper tier of quarterback. But
the reality is when you look at their team, Jayden
Daniels beat one top ten defense last year. He beat
eight that were in the bottom ten defense last year.
Here's the list of quarterbacks that the Redskins beat. Ors
(22:53):
you mean the Commanders beat last year? Trey Lance, Michael Panics,
Kenny pick At, Spencer Ratler, Will Levis, Caleb Williams, Shawn Watson,
Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Daniel Jones twice. So other than
Joe Burrow, who on that list do you feel like, Oh, snap,
I can't believe they beat that guy. I can't believe
they really went on the road or in a third
quarter game they went and beat that guy. No, of
(23:14):
course not and last, but not least, you look at
the Commanders and their strength of schedule last season. I
mentioned they played bad defenses. I mentioned they played bad quarterbacks.
The Washington Commanders in twenty twenty four had the lowest
strength of schedule in the NFL. Combined the teams they
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played had a four to thirty win percentage.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Okay, this is.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Something that we really got to consider when you're talking
about worse to first. And it's a big reason why
I could see a scenario where the New York Football
Giants with Jackson Dart not Russell Wilson at quarterback, find
a way to go eleven and five or Tim eleven
and six, twelve and five when it's highbreaker with the
Eagles and they're the worst the first team in five.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That is passionate.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I don't understand how you're saying you're not good at
this thing. That that's a fire take. I just have
to say that I completely, one thousand percent disagree with it. Yeah, well,
we have Warren Sharp on last week he said they
have the hardest schedule in the league. Listen, maybe they
are able to surprise Washington or Dallas in the first
two weeks. They'll need one of those two because after
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that they host the Chiefs and then they host the Chargers.
But nevertheless, it's interesting that this is why Rob's good
at it. I was so surprised at that six of
the seven made the playoffs, but he went by point
differential because the other thing the Giants are is undefeated
in the preseason. So I went to chat gipt, and
(24:47):
we know chatchipts not always reliable. That's a good starting point.
So I asked, chatchipt, can you give me a list
in the last twenty years of teams that went undefeated
in the preseason now wait for it, but also had
a season win total under seven.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So they were projected to be bad, but they shocked
everybody and were great.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Okay, we go, here we go.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
So the two thousand and eight Detroit Lions preseason four
and o and they went.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh to sixteen in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Goddamn twenty seventeen Browns four to o preseason they also
went Now that I did not see Coby twenty nineteen
Giants four and no preseason. I think that was pre dable,
I'm pretty sure. And they went four and twelve. And
there's two more. The Bears in twenty twenty two went
three and oh remember the excitement, Oh my gosh, Bears, Bears.
(25:38):
They went three and fourteen with justin Fields. And finally,
the twenty twenty three Washington Commanders went three and oh
in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
They went four and thirteen.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So none of those those teams that went undefeated last
twenty years sniffed their win total, and that to me
is terrifying on multiple fronts. That being said, listen, you
got MyLink neighbors, You're gonna be spicy. You got that
defensive front, you're gonna be plucky. So I mean in
Dables coaching for his job, so I expect him to
(26:09):
be in his bag here. I don't hate Tyrone Tracy
the running back. I don't know if you had a
fancy draft. I don't dislike him at all. The offensive
line cannot be as bad as it was. I think,
you know, maybe there's some value in the Giants if
you are curious, what ta you know?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
We love Ta my guy. He had the Giants going.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Three and fourteen, so not great, not great for robbgi
Real quick before we wrap up, so I said, I
went to Vegas obviously.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Week one college football.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I did lay a little lumber on the Buckeyes minus
two and a half in the opener against Arch, and
I laid a little number on Notre Dame minus two
and a half against Carson Beck and Miami kind of
sort of loaded up. I'm feeling real good, I am.
If you missed the David Baker interview doing partial shares
(27:03):
of his Survivor team. He's only going to do one entry.
I highly recommend reaching out to him if you're interested
in want to just have some fun.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I will be kicking in somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I'm not gonna say how much here, but I said,
I need you to price it out, and if you win,
I need to know what you know. Let's say I
did one hundred dollars, that's not going to get you anywhere.
But if you did five hundred, one thousand, two thousand,
whatever it is, and it's it's a fun sweat.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I will say.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
One of the highlights going to Vegas is when you
show up with your tickets from last season on Futures.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Rob you hand it to the lady.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
She puts them through the machine and then shows you
a number and then it says here's the cash that
you win back. They hand it to you and you're like, oh,
thank you, and then you turn around and sign up
for the Survivor contest and you pay them with their money,
which is which is always fun.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
So it was it was good year.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Last year in Futures I did do a couple of
those Super Bowl long shots X to beat why we'll
talk about them during the week, But I gotta say
some stuff. I can't unload everything on a Monday. We
are back Moneyana. It's gonna be a fun. Gosh, it's
good to be back.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Football is almost here, Ladies and germs, see tomorrow.
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
Quem, It's me Jason MacIntire, Straight Fire for Monday, August
twenty fifth.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Up back baby nice.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
So a week off to recharge the old batteries. Oh yeah,
football season cover it up, and I need to recharge
batteries because this week hosting the Herd Coward is out
leading into the NFL season.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
He needs a breather, his fifth summer breather.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
But anyways, that nevertheless kiddingb but it was good to
have a week off. Went to Vegas, made some preseason futures.
I will reveal some of them later. I'll put some
on the The Graham. It was a fascinating week. My
kids started school. I know you don't care deeply about that,
but it is extremely humbling when you sit down and
you look and your kid is starting a freshman year
(00:59):
of heights. Cool. I swear it was like five minutes
ago that I was like, oh, yeah, my kids, he's
gonna be getting out of in elementary school soon.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And then boom, here it is, Oh I got a freshman.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I think Rob G's known me since my kids were like,
I don't know, I don't believe you think he's met
my kids, but he knew when I moved here I
had kids and he was the producer of the radio
show and my kids were like six and four, you know,
And now it's like, oh my gosh, fourteen and twelve,
and it's just it's crazy and I have to make
(01:30):
it admission. So we have done our best to hold
off no phone, no phone, you could do Apple Watch. Well,
we finally had to cave and got my freshman a phone.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And the only.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Reason is because the school essentially is like, yeah, you
need it. The teachers are essentially telling the kids, you know,
there's group projects you need to communicate, and some of
our stuff's done on these apps.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And it's like, well, well, there's no way around it.
You can't just borrow a phone. So we got him
a phone.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The wife and I sat down, this is funny with
the Apple you know, people at the Apple store, and
we were like, listen, this is where we're at, our
kids starting school.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
He's getting a phone.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
We need you to lock this ish up so he
can't do anything, it can't download anything. We walk out
of there thinking we got it, and my son's like,
oh yeah, I just downloaded this app.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We're like, what the hell you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Just one of these are It's tough, it's frustrating, it's NonStop.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But here I am.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
So it seems like I didn't miss a whole heck
of a lot last week. You know, college football did start,
but it was week zero. There was you know, the
Iowa State game was not terrible. And this coming weekend
we have Ohio State Texas, which I'm absolutely fired up about.
I cannot wait for that game. We'll do plenty on it,
probably have a guest or two leading into it. I
(02:44):
have not had a fantasy draft yet. I have a
few coming up here very short order. My bro had one,
and I kind of advised him on it. If any
of his league mates are listening, sorry, but they did
get upset because it's where people think like, oh, you
work at sports, you're too good for us in fantasy
we're not doing this. So they kind of rib him,
(03:05):
and when he makes a big.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Run, they're like, oh, this is your brothers dude.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
But like I was not totally prepared for his fantasy draft.
I'm getting ready for mine, and this week I rere prepare,
like forty eight hours before and I'll just say fourteen
teams is impossible, and I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'll just leave it at that for his league.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But I can tell you this, one guy that ain't
getting drafted in fantasy is Shador Sanders. And listen, it's
annoying that we even have to do this. He was
a fifth round pick. Okay, we talked about him in
at the.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Draft, leading up to the draft, after the.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Draft in July, in the preseason, we're still talking about
him because what happened over the weekend preseason Game three.
You know, Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel do fine in
the first half, Schaduur comes in in the second half,
playing with a bunch of guys who are going to delivering.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Uber eats or.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Amazon packages in a couple of weeks. And essentially, Shadour
was awful three of six fourteen yards, but worse of all.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He took five sacks.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And essentially the five sacks are what's really really being
scrutinized because obviously the offensive line wasn't there, but he
looked like Caleb Williams playing backyard football at USC and
it did not go well. But gets worse. If that's
actually possible, it gets worse. So they get the ball
back two minute drill. Oh hey, Shador, here's your chance,
(04:37):
and Kevin Stefanski pulls Shadoor for Snoop Huntley Tyrone Huntley,
who is a veteran, he's twenty seven second stint with
the Browns. It's almost as if Stefanski wanted to get
the win and trusted Huntley because he knows him, he's
been through the system. And of course Huntley leads him
down for the game winning field goal. But everybody's breaking
(04:57):
down the whole will uh stefan full shad Or.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Shadeur gets warming up.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I guess he's riding the bike to get ready to
go back in for the two minute drive, and then
all of a sudden he gets told no, and Shdu
kind of puts his.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Hands up like what what what's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
And of course that's great and grab gets a million
views going around, and then Stefansky's got to answer questions
about that, and it's just like it's never ending. And
I got a hot take on what I think the
outcome for Shadeur should be. But I'm just gonna go
here like this idea of a celebrity quarterback is just
(05:33):
it's it's not gonna it's not gonna work. And this
is why Shaduur fell in the draft. Folks, I'm sure
if you were on social media you saw some of
the takes. People are losing their minds. It is actually
reminiscent of when Tim Tebow was quarterbacking. Everybody loved Tibo.
They were passionate for Tebou. He just wasn't that guy
(05:56):
at the NFL stage.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Now he's a different.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Celebrity because he his parents weren't NFL players or famous,
but people just loved him because he was a legendary
college winner. They were rooting for this tough, gritty white
quarterback who won a lot of college and everybody thought
he's gonna be a great pro. And folks, some of
these takes from people are are they're all making it
(06:21):
like a racial issue.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh why would he pull up? What's with the offensive line?
It was just a little sad.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And I'm sure you know, if you're in the Cleveland
front office, you don't give a rats ass about what's
happening on social media. But rob which you do care
about is the actual media coming in your building. Before games,
after games, before practice, after pret whatever it is. Asking
about your fifth round pick who's probably gonna start as
the third or fourth quarterback on your depth chart, that
(06:49):
aspect has to get annoying. And someone smart pointed out
how Kevin Stefanski has never had a normal quarterback room.
So twenty twenty one, there was Baker Mayfield's kind of injured.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
There was the Baker drama member. He tried to play
through the injury.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It was a total disaster, a goat, you know what,
and they move off of Baker. Then they go and
grab Deshaun Watson, but all of a sudden, he's got
the suspension and he's terrible when he comes back. So
then the next injury, Watson gets hurt. Next season, Watson
gets hurt. Then there's twenty twenty four, Watson's terrible, then
gets hurt again, and now he's got the Shaduur media circus.
(07:25):
So we're going on five years where Kevin Stefanski cannot
have like a normal quarterback existence, and I mean, I
just don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
What's the move here?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
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Speaker 5 (07:52):
I mean, the problem is it looks like the movies
they're going to keep all four quarterbacks, which is something
I don't think makes any kind of sense, which is
front off his malp But this whole discourse surrounding Shador
standers has really jumped the shark in the last twenty
four to forty eight hours. You mentioned how he just
had a really rough go of it in his last
preseason game on Saturday. You know, so him, I would
(08:14):
have liked to see him get a opporunity the two
many drill. Ideally that had have been great, but he
did not have what I would consider it to be
an NFL caliber day on Saturday. And because he has
these sikophants, these you know, cult like following, similar to
Tim Tebow. As you referenced, there were legitimate members of
(08:35):
the media, not like fans, not like people on Twitter,
but legitimate people who work for legitimate websites and outlets
who have real pens and real microphones in their faces,
and they're saying, well, Kevin Stefanski obviously doesn't want to
see Schador sign. You know, that's why he put him
out there with the third string, and you know, four
fits of the offensive lineman that he worked with all
(08:56):
got cut on Sunday, So you know, it shows there's
some kind of bias against Shad door standard and it's like,
you realize, number one, if I were to play that game,
the idea that the offensive line in front of Shador
standers hates him so much that they don't want to
block for him, in itself is an indictment of Sugar Sanders.
(09:18):
Like that that's you know, that's Eddie Martel from the replacements, like,
we hate this guy so much, we're not gonna block
for m. So that's number one. If that's a fabrication,
that's a fairy till that's a movie. Like script number two,
you're suggesting that the coach is going out of his
way to ensure that this guy does not play well.
(09:40):
Do you understand that the coaches get paid to Do
you understand that the coaches have a job to do
as well? And what they don't want to tell you
is something that Pro Football focused let us know early
on Sunday just to give you context on what's going
on with Shudor Sanders. His average time to throw in
the prese was five point one to three seconds. What
(10:05):
Jason most good good NFL quarterbacks is anywhere between two
and a half to two and three quarter seconds.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
He was pressured nine out of eleven total dropbacks. Okay
on Saturday. Here's what makes that really frustrating. On those times,
the pressure only came in the first two and a
half seconds four times. On the flip side, Dylan Gabriel
(10:36):
was pressured four times out of nineteen dropbacks. The pressure
came under two and a half seconds three times, which
tells you that the problem with Shador Sanders has nothing
to do with the offensive line, nothing to do with
the coaching, nothing to do with some bias against him.
It has to do with everything that NFL decision makers
were telling you new was coming out. He holds the
(10:58):
ball too long, he backs up too much, He's always
looking to see the play open before he really lets
it go. Those are real issues that a lot of
young quarterbacks have. Caleb Williams has that issue right now
in Chicago, and I don't see anybody saying, well, hey,
it's the offensive line, it's Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
That's the reason why why Caleb Williams, can you know.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Get a pass off without getting sacknus because he has
a learning curve to deal with and because he should
door Sanders, He's getting ink coverage podcast like this one
talking about him when the reality is he hasn't looked
anything like an NFL.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Quarterback so far. I don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, it feels like Kenny Pickett's hamstring is the only
reason should do or hasn't been traded, or you could
say they trade Kenny Pickett, but rob, let.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Me just float this humor me.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Okay, Okay, So there was an injury to aid and
O'Connell of the raid is fractured. Something out six to
eight weeks, okay, Raiders are set. It started with Geno Smith,
a veteran who oh, by the way, started out as
a disaster with the Jets. The best or the worst
story I heard was that he was, you know, so
(12:18):
cocky and arrogant that he would show up to the
quarterback room in like a bathrobe, like like he just
like literally just rolled out of bed and the coaches
are looking at him like, bro, that's just not how
you act as a professional. And Gino so this is
now a veteran, he's bounced back from early struggles.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
He is set.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Nobody's supplanting him in Vegas. Their head coach is Pete Carroll,
a veteran coach, a seventy six year old battle axe
something like that, who is not going to have any
problems commanding the room. If you recall Shaduur Sanders during
the draft process, maybe it was December, January, whatever it was,
he had posted something about Vegas. He drove by the
(13:01):
stadium in Vegas and did some Instagram stories and he
was pretty keen on Vegas, according to multiple reports. If
you're the Raiders, do you try to buy low on
Shador Sanders, bring him in as hey developmental backup guy. Now,
the schefter did come out and say they want a
veteran backup, but that's you know, Aid O'Connell wasn't a veteran.
(13:22):
This is right right, right right, So I don't know
if I buy that, But I just wonder, Rob, is
there a world where you say, well, she can we
get him for a seven Browns will take him for
a seventh round pick, and Cleveland then rids themselves of
the circus. I'll guarantee you the media ain't gonna be
grilling Kevin Stefanski when Shadour's gone right, and then he's
(13:43):
the Raiders problem. And listen, you don't have to worry
about getting on the fild because you ain't not with
Gino Smith healthy. Now if if he is forced to play,
you do have amazing tight end in Bowers. You've got
a great running back in Genty. I don't know, I'm
just bitballing here. What do you think, Rob g wouldn't
would you feel if your Raiders traded by Low on schedule?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I wouldn't hate it. But I actually tweeted about that
on Sunday and it wasn't much door. I said, I
watched the Raiders end up trading for your Candy Piket
and I hate Anny pick. I don't think he cany
pickt is any good. But to your point, they want,
allegedly want a veteran quarterback and this would kind of
help Cleveland to consolidate the quarterback rub and make them
appear smarter than what they really are. As far as
Shador Sanders, I wouldn't hate the idea of him as
(14:28):
the backup quarterback because again, you're beginning him dirt cheap.
I just see no scenario where that happens, because they
could have easily drafted him in the fifth round, the
sixth round, and he has that personal relationship with Tom
Brady and that still didn't matter. And this is something
that you've touched on, and I think Albert Breer actually
was the one who said it on the Damn Patrick
(14:49):
Show last week. Shador Sanders fell out of the first
round because of NFL talent issues, right, because he doesn't
see the field too well. He's kind of a slow processor.
He's very accurate, he has a good enough arm, he's
a decent enough athlete, but just for NFL purposes, he
does not exhibit what they determined to be first round
quarterback trades, which is fine, right, Like that's the thing.
(15:11):
From then on, it was everything else that lets him
falling from the second round, the third round, the fourth,
or ultimately the fifth round. And it was because, as
you mentioned, everything he does is going to be a story,
good or bad. So the only situations to me that
would have made sense for him coming out of the
NFL draft would have been either a to go to
a team like Cleveland where there is no established quarterback
(15:33):
where it's like, hey, an open competition. If this guy's
as good as you think he is, then he can
win this job outright, or you go somewhere where the
quarterback is so good and so established that there is
no question no matter what should do or Sanders does
in the preseason, this guy is our quarterback. Patrick Mahomes
is not getting benched in favor of George Sanders. Josh
Allen's not getting betch. Jo Burrow's not getting benched. You know,
(15:54):
a Jared Goff is not getting benched. Gino Smith. As
much as I'm a big fan of visiting a huge
upgrade in Vegas from what we had last year, I
would not consider Geno Smith to be one of those
guys where it's like, hey, if he has a stretch
where they go zero to three and he has one
touchdown five picks, we can't betch Gino Smith, you know,
because he's you know, he's a our starter, and that
(16:17):
is on the table for the Raiders. You have a
new offense, new offensive coordinator, Gino Kelly Baby. Gino Smith
had had some issues last season, you know, where you
got into a little gunslinger mode, especially in the red zone.
Where he was kind of fitting it where you shouldn't
supposed to, and you know you don't want to have
that on the table, right Eightan O'Connell is a non
threatening guy. Kenny Pickett is a non threatening guy.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Whoever they like.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Carson Wentz, who got signed on study, is a non
threatening guy. Shador Sanders, because of his fan base, is
a threat to anybody in quarterback. So I don't really
see that one happening with Vegas.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You know, it's interesting you bring up opportunities. So the
Colts named.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Anthony Richardson the backup, and Daniel Jones has won the
starting job. Daniel Jones was in Minnesota even after Sam
Darlad move on. Daniel Jones must have seen, oh, just
McCarthy kid is good, or McCarthy and O'Connell have a relationship.
I'm not gonna have a shot. Let me go elsewhere.
He identified the Colts as a great landing spot and
(17:18):
Stiken's smart and Richardson, you know, Daniel Jones wins the job.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Smart move.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You're right that.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I don't know if there's a great spot for Shador,
but Cleveland theoretically should have been a good one, right,
I mean it should have, but it didn't quite pan out.
I'm not saying it's over over because you never know,
guys get hurt, whatever. But I will say the New
York Giants look kind of smart given their uh their
situ defeated in the preseason. And Jackson Dart, who you know,
(17:49):
marck the Giants for taking him. He was as as
good as any rookie quarterback in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I'll tell you this. He certainly looked better than whatever
the Saints are trotting out. Oh my said, team looks
terrible than anything. The Browns have Jackson Dart and again
it's working with Dabole. The numbers are great.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I identified this early guys, but he met with the
media and was like using, what's your name? Okay, Joe, Joe, Yeah, okay,
and like the media left him. He had an instant rapport.
There was no combativeness, there was no like question. They
liked him and Jackson Dart. He ain't gonna start the season,
but I will say this, I will be surprised if
(18:25):
he's not on the field before Halloween. I just feel
like Russell Wilson not quite that guy anymore. And I
think Brian Dabele is going to be grasping and Strauss
to save his job. I think, Jae, if you give
me an over under, when will Jackson Dart start a game?
I would say before Halloween? Would you go before or after?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
I'll go well before Halloween. Oh okay, I could see
him starting, you know, by October first. You know they
start off one in three, two and two, and Russ
just kind of looks like the rest that we saw
at the Enn in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Where he's moonball or bust.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Then then I get told these that happening, and I'm
actually glad you brought the New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
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Speaker 5 (19:13):
It's well documented that basically every year there's a team
that goes worse to first, right. Since twenty two, twenty
five teams have done that, right, so basically more than
one a year it happens too. And I'm doing this
thought exercise on Friday ahead of the Oddo Couple Show,
which I actually filled in co hosting apparently did a
terrible job. I'm getting rip on YouTube about it.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
That's fun.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
But anyways, so there's eight teams this year that are eligible.
The Bears, the Browns, the Raiders, the Patriots, the Saints,
the Giants, the Niners, and the Titans. And anytime you're
trying to project something like this, I've always found it's
less about the team that you're picking and more about
the situation around them.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
So, I'm a Raider fan. I would have loved to
pick the Raiders go worse to first. The reality is
there's three ten win plus teams ahead of them, so
you would need a lot lot of people to fall
back to the pack for you to have a chance
to leap frog three teams, right, Like, that's really tricky.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Similar situation, I believe with the Bears.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
You know, the Bears have the Lions, the Vikings, the Packers,
all those teams I think want at least twelve games
last year, and so you know, to have one team
fall back, sure, but to have two or three is
really really tricky. And similar thing with the Niners. Like
the Niners, everyone was picking them because you know, Christian
McCaffrey's back, and they got Georgia Kittle and Brock Purty
looks like he's back, and you know they can't possibly
(20:31):
be having the same kind of injury luck this year
they had last year. Again, the Rams and the Seahawks
both won double digit games last year, So you're asking
for a lot of things to go wrong for you
to go worse to first. And that's why I settled
on the New York Football Giants. Oh, come on, and
the reason being, I don't know if you saw this
article come out on Friday on CBS Sports. You mentioned
(20:52):
the Giants aren defeating the preseason the point differential of
plus sixty. They're the eight teams to two thousand and
nine to do that in the preseason. Of the previous seven,
six of them made the playoffs. Two of them went
on to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Wait, wait one more time.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Six of the seven made the player Six of the
previous seven to have a point differential of plus sixty
or higher in the preseason went on to make the playoffs.
Two of those six won the Super Bowl. The average
win total for a team that had a plus sixty
preseason differential is eleven wins a season. So by process
(21:31):
of elimination, you look at the New York Giants you
mentioned I believe their front four is the best.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Front FOIGN football point play period between.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Thibodeau and I think Abdua Carter was the best player
in the draft last season.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Right, Their defense should be good.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Malik Nahbors is a stud if their quarterback, and I
think Jackson Dart.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Has been a revelation in this preseason.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Like I would get a lot to talk about shudst Sanders,
it should be about Jackson Dart because he has been
otherworldly in this preseason. I think he's completely almost sevent
percent of his passes during his seventy yards three touchdow
no picks, also another fifty yards rushing in a touchdown
on the ground. So you consider all of that, and
then you look at the surrounding in that division. Obviously
(22:10):
you got the Eagles at worst. I think they slide
back to a wild card no matter if it's the
Giants or anybody. I just think because they're such a
good team that loaded. The Cowboys are a weld documented
dumpster fire between Michael Parsons and the head coach Schattenheimer
doesn't look like any kind of control. And then with
the Washington Commanders, which is the popular pick for popular people,
Everybody loves the Washington Commanders because Jayden Daniels is the monster,
(22:33):
and I think long term, jay and Daniels is going
to be in that upper upper tier of quarterback. But
the reality is when you look at their team, Jayden
Daniels beat one top ten defense last year. He beat
eight that were in the bottom ten defense last year.
Here's the list of quarterbacks that the Redskins beat. Ors
(22:53):
you mean the Commanders beat last year? Trey Lance, Michael Panics,
Kenny pick At, Spencer Ratler, Will Levis, Caleb Williams, Shawn Watson,
Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Daniel Jones twice. So other than
Joe Burrow, who on that list do you feel like, Oh, snap,
I can't believe they beat that guy. I can't believe
they really went on the road or in a third
quarter game they went and beat that guy. No, of
(23:14):
course not and last, but not least, you look at
the Commanders and their strength of schedule last season. I
mentioned they played bad defenses. I mentioned they played bad quarterbacks.
The Washington Commanders in twenty twenty four had the lowest
strength of schedule in the NFL. Combined the teams they
(23:35):
played had a four to thirty win percentage.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Okay, this is.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Something that we really got to consider when you're talking
about worse to first. And it's a big reason why
I could see a scenario where the New York Football
Giants with Jackson Dart not Russell Wilson at quarterback, find
a way to go eleven and five or Tim eleven
and six, twelve and five when it's highbreaker with the
Eagles and they're the worst the first team in five.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That is passionate.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I don't understand how you're saying you're not good at
this thing. That that's a fire take. I just have
to say that I completely, one thousand percent disagree with it. Yeah, well,
we have Warren Sharp on last week he said they
have the hardest schedule in the league. Listen, maybe they
are able to surprise Washington or Dallas in the first
two weeks. They'll need one of those two because after
(24:27):
that they host the Chiefs and then they host the Chargers.
But nevertheless, it's interesting that this is why Rob's good
at it. I was so surprised at that six of
the seven made the playoffs, but he went by point
differential because the other thing the Giants are is undefeated
in the preseason. So I went to chat gipt, and
(24:47):
we know chatchipts not always reliable. That's a good starting point.
So I asked, chatchipt, can you give me a list
in the last twenty years of teams that went undefeated
in the preseason now wait for it, but also had
a season win total under seven.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So they were projected to be bad, but they shocked
everybody and were great.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Okay, we go, here we go.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
So the two thousand and eight Detroit Lions preseason four
and o and they went.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh to sixteen in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Goddamn twenty seventeen Browns four to o preseason they also
went Now that I did not see Coby twenty nineteen
Giants four and no preseason. I think that was pre dable,
I'm pretty sure. And they went four and twelve. And
there's two more. The Bears in twenty twenty two went
three and oh remember the excitement, Oh my gosh, Bears, Bears.
(25:38):
They went three and fourteen with justin Fields. And finally,
the twenty twenty three Washington Commanders went three and oh
in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
They went four and thirteen.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So none of those those teams that went undefeated last
twenty years sniffed their win total, and that to me
is terrifying on multiple fronts. That being said, listen, you
got MyLink neighbors, You're gonna be spicy. You got that
defensive front, you're gonna be plucky. So I mean in
Dables coaching for his job, so I expect him to
(26:09):
be in his bag here. I don't hate Tyrone Tracy
the running back. I don't know if you had a
fancy draft. I don't dislike him at all. The offensive
line cannot be as bad as it was. I think,
you know, maybe there's some value in the Giants if
you are curious, what ta you know?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
We love Ta my guy. He had the Giants going.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Three and fourteen, so not great, not great for robbgi
Real quick before we wrap up, so I said, I
went to Vegas obviously.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Week one college football.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I did lay a little lumber on the Buckeyes minus
two and a half in the opener against Arch, and
I laid a little number on Notre Dame minus two
and a half against Carson Beck and Miami kind of
sort of loaded up. I'm feeling real good, I am.
If you missed the David Baker interview doing partial shares
(27:03):
of his Survivor team. He's only going to do one entry.
I highly recommend reaching out to him if you're interested
in want to just have some fun.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I will be kicking in somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I'm not gonna say how much here, but I said,
I need you to price it out, and if you win,
I need to know what you know. Let's say I
did one hundred dollars, that's not going to get you anywhere.
But if you did five hundred, one thousand, two thousand,
whatever it is, and it's it's a fun sweat.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I will say.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
One of the highlights going to Vegas is when you
show up with your tickets from last season on Futures.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Rob you hand it to the lady.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
She puts them through the machine and then shows you
a number and then it says here's the cash that
you win back. They hand it to you and you're like, oh,
thank you, and then you turn around and sign up
for the Survivor contest and you pay them with their money,
which is which is always fun.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
So it was it was good year.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Last year in Futures I did do a couple of
those Super Bowl long shots X to beat why we'll
talk about them during the week, But I gotta say
some stuff. I can't unload everything on a Monday. We
are back Moneyana. It's gonna be a fun. Gosh, it's
good to be back.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Football is almost here, Ladies and germs, see tomorrow.
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