June 17, 2022 • 53 mins
Chris and Rob get into it over the legacy of Steph Curry and if he's a top 10 player of all-time! Could Deshaun Watson be suspended for a whole season? The fellas discuss Watson's punishment compared to some NFL owners and take calls from around the country. Plus, NBA vet Kerry Kittles joins the show and Rob has a great message about calling your dad!
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a great show for you today. Obviously, last night, another
NBA champion was crowned, this one a familiar one. Four
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time champion now the Golden State Warriors, or at least
four times in this era. Of course, they won a
championship before with Rick Barry nineteen seventy five. But they
won their fourth in eight years and did it in
impressive fashion in the Boston Garden, only the second time
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a team has done that in the Garden. Clinched and
closed out the Celtics in Boston. So we'll get into
all that and much much more. A little bit of
news coming down about Deshauna Watson as well, at least
what looks like it may be in the works, so
we'll get in all that. So keep it locked right
here on Fox Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app and Serious
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x Shunel eighty three. However you may be listening, let
me welcome in my partner, Rob Parker. What's up man?
What's happened to mister Chris Bussard? How are you? I
am great? I am great, um excited about this show. Yes,
we got a big show today. I am in Chicago
and it's warm, feels like summer, and uh, could they
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be here? I had another nice lunch today and with
the person who is responsible for you having to work
with me every every day. Lorna Gladstone hired me at
w DFN in Detroit, Chris in nineteen ninety four, our
first full time radio show, so I had her number.
I would love to tell her mind. And you know
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what's so cool is yeah, she hired me and we've
been uh stayed in contact all these years. Chris, you
know on he worked with her for a year, but
she hired me, So I'm in Chicago for the weekend,
going to the Cubs game tomorrow, Cubs Brave. So it's
all good, all good, all right, sounds good, All right.
We got the Eye couple, crew in and Iowa, sam
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My favorites. Who feels Jay, Alex Tyson flashback, Chris, your
bond with Iowa is out the window. I want you
to know me and i Me and Iowa have now
we have a stronger bond that you can no longer
could you live in Did you ever live in Ia? Okay?
They did. I was one of those plays that when
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you've lived there, it's a bond. All places aren't like that. Okay,
Iowa is I was saying, Am I wrong or right?
That's very true? But I will say last week a
little Rob's game ground because he uh, he got a
little video shout out from my guy Luca Garza, who
was the AP Player of the Year a few years
ago for Iowa. So yeah, I saw this shout out.
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So that was very touching. So Rob's definitely he's like
kin to me now, game ground is one? Sure what
I mean you can say, can't you don't have that bond? Hey?
You know what, I stomp you in a minute I
was saying, come on, what about that Iowa Bob. He didn't, Chris.
He didn't ask me for anything. He just saw that
that uh Luca was there, and I did it for him.
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He didn't ask for anything I solicited. It was very nice.
He was just like, hey, I see uh Luca's there,
and I was like okay. And then when I told Luca,
he was like, so, let's make a video for my
guys Iowa saying, and that was it. All right, I
can't pick favorites here. Come on, wait, you said, yeah, yeah,
Luca Luka Garza, who was campus a couple of years.
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I thought initially you said Luca knew Iowa Sam. No
he do, he does now? No. He had a nice
little career at Iowa, really right, and he did great
at the US. Was one of Gaston's favorite players, right right? Yeah? Sure, okay,
all right, we got so Iowa Sam's then Danny Ge
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Wait till you hear this voice. You're gonna be like
Danny Ge needs to be on the mic right now
being here with you guys on Friday. No, it's like
Wolfman Jack or something. Rob Yes, but who's really for?
Rob Gee? Whose real name was Bob Smith, christ By
Wolfman and Uh, of course on the updates our man
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Steve This say, all right, Rob, I want to ask you, Uh,
Steph Curry's now and the Warriors got their fourth championship
in this run. Steph was fantastic last night. Uh thirty
one point I'm sorry, thirty four points? Don't Keevin assist?
Seven rebounds? What'd you say? Cheven rebounds? Hit thirteen points
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in the fourth quarter, Several big shots, a lot of
them drives, you know when the Celtics, because Rob, like
we've talked about before, I think in this era now
they're close twelve point games, and when Boston they cut
it to nine, they cut it to ten, it was
just like, okay, are they you know, are they about
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to have a run and get hot? Every time that happened,
Steph had a driving lay up a lot of times
took our Horford, we got on the switch to the bucket,
finished on him. There's a great overall performance and of
course he was named the finals MVP and it wasn't close.
It's definitive his series. So here's what I want to
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ask you, Rob, what do you think this championship does
for Steph Curry's legacy and this Arriers team. If you're like, yeah,
I mean obviously it enhances it. I don't think to me,
it catapults him into the top ten. I think I've
seen a lot of people. I think that's prisoner of
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the moment. I think there's a lot of that going on.
He's had a great career. I don't know if he
didn't have a super team put together. And then here's
the other issue that I have, is it Steph Curry
and nobody or now all of a sudden, it seems
as if he has nobody like Clay and Draymond and
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Durant doesn't matter like he It's all Steph Curry. And
that's why I think people starting that just I just
hear people talk about Steph and you know what, he's
been able to accomplish, accomplish, And it's too bad that
a more on vacation next week because we could have
done a little bit more of it. And then of
course Lebron's name came up last night, which it would
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because he has four championships and people are starting to say, well,
is this the Lebron era? He won four? But Steph
won four during his era? As well, and whose career
is better? You know? Is this the lebron Ero? Is
this the Steph era? You know? So that was another
thing that, like I said, not for today, but as
you go forward with the story. So yeah, he obviously
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up did his steak is his profile for people to
have that conversation or feel comfortable, whereas had he not won,
I don't think that you would have that we'd be
talking anything about that. So, yeah, he did up his profile,
his career, his read to may and it'll be hard
for anybody to argue that he can't be in that
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in a conversation of some of the greatest players who
ever played. Yeah, I think he has to be in
the discussion for top ten of all time. Obviously a subjective,
so some will have him been there's no, there's no
I do have him in the top ten. I think
rob the discussion went from who do you take out?
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To oh, he gotta be in. I mean when you
when you now he's not mad, I don't have him
next to Magic Johnson that some might be trying to
say he's the best point guard ever. I got Magic
as that, but Magic Bird, Kobe duncan shock. You don't
say who you're taking out, You say they're in, and
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they gotta be in. And I think STEP's there. And
I don't think it's you know, anybody's dismissing Clay and
Draymond and even Durant. I just think that we everybody
understands this is his team, and it was even his
team when Durant was there. He set the culture. Like
Tim Duncan, they were always Tim Duncan's team, even as
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he was beginning to fade, and Tony Parker was the
focal point of the offense, and Duncan was just a
great defender, communicator and still you know, got rebounds and
what scored when he needed to. But you understood it
was his team. He set the culture, He was the
centerpiece of the dynasty. So I think that's why you
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hear more, obviously as you should about Steph, just like
you heard about Michael with Lebron's championships. You hear about him.
It's not to dismiss the others, but it's understanding that
he was the star or even bird. You know, Mchael
in Paris and Dennis Johnson are all Hall of famers
in their own right, but we look at it as
the bird Celtics, and I think what it does rob
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and we'll get into, you know, the top ten later
in the show. It hills all the yeah butts to me,
it answers every question. Now there was a question of
no finals MVP, Well that's been answered. There was a
question of well there was no finals. He really distinguished
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himself and dominant. Well, if that's been answered. He'd averaged
thirty one points forty eight percent, shooting forty two percent
from three, six rebounds, and five dimes plus two steals
against either the best or the second best to the
Warriors defense in the NBA, a defense that had really
given Kevin Durant problems, gave Yanni's problems, and gave Jimmy
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Butler problems, and he did his thing against them. I
also think it answered the not clutch you know stuff.
Did he hit a buzzer beater? No, there was no need,
but he Game four if they lose that, Now, they
did just beat Boston three straights, so maybe maybe they
would being able to come back from three one down,
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but obviously you don't think they would have. So that
was a must win essentially, and he goes out and
has the best game of his career plus ten rebounds
in addition to the forty three points, and then last
night coming back from you know, the mediocre. I don't
think it was a bad game, a mediocre game five
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and drops thirty four. Like I said, thirteen points in
the fourth quarter, big bucket, whether a three or driving layup.
So I think he answered the clutch issue as well.
And so I don't think there are any more questions
about him. People can can yeah, go ahead, I think
there are. I disagree from the stempoint that you're looking
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at his career and saying that everything as that STEP's done.
There's two things that still stick out, which which you
can always use in the equation, is that he it's
his team. They choked down a three to one lead
which had never happened, and he was there. He was
the guy that couldn't get one win at number two.
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Would he have two championships? Fact? No, what is that?
I'm just talking about a question? No, no, no, I'm
just saying it ain't perfect. No, no, no, i I'm
saying I look at what I didn't say it was perfect.
I think he's answered every question. What's the question you
just proposed? Yeah? And then the other question is despite
what's the first question. No, I'm saying that that for
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a lot of people, they act like that never happened,
is what I'm trying to say, Like that's not a
part of his dialogue. People, No, I think they're just
saying that doesn't take away from his greatness that I
think it does. What how can Lebron be the second
best ever? With what happened against Dallas? He didn't lose,
but nobody's ever done three one? Yeah, but nobody. A
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few superstars have melted down like Lebron did and just
eleven like matt Urn is a different animal because of
the numbers and the sheer numbers of what he will
eventually have. So when you look at Lebron, no, but
also the numbers, he's gonna be the all time leading scorer.
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He's done all his things, the most points in the
playoffs because of his longevity and being in the postseason
that much, so he has a he has a different
criteria for me, And I'm just saying the other part
is would he really have four championships without Kevin Durant?
So what magic without Kareem? But but that team wasn't Lebron.
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I'm just asking you, like, really, that was his teammate.
They maximized it together because Kevin Durant was his team. Yes, yes,
because of this, Because I'm trying to tell you because
at the same conversation that people have had about Durant
where they questioned, uh, his winning those two championships with
that squad that put it over the top joined the Warriors,
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they looked at it and said, this is ridiculous, this
is bad. So I'm just saying that it goes both ways.
It goes for Durant and it goes for staff, who
agreed to having Kevin Durant. He could have stopped it
and said, we don't need Kevin Durant, let's do our
own thing. I don't want Kevin Durant. He could have
done that, but he shouldn't have done that because he
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wanted to have his own thing. I don't need to
have his own thing. No, but he don't didn't need
the thing. But I mean, that's like saying Magic shouldn't
have wanted to play with Kareem No, that's played with
like five Hall of famers when he won his championship. No, no, no,
but he didn't It wasn't after he had won a
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championship that he brought those people on. They hadn't won Boston.
Wasn't that good, Chris? When Bird got there, they weren't.
They had a bunch of Hall of famers, but they
weren't good. Go look at the record of the year
was here. He got there. I'm just saying, and then
they want it. They didn't into the next year. They
wanted his second right, but Bird being and he wasn't
even the finals MVP. He had eight points in two games,
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shot three for eleven back game. But but but Bird changed,
the culture changed that team step did. They wasn't very
good before. All I'm saying is there are people, including me,
who will say I'm not convinced that Steph would have
won those other two championships because they lost probably caused
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Lebron two championships. That Steph and the Warriors did what
Lebron did in Miami by putting together a super team,
and so it wound up buying Lebron in the butt.
But but I'm just saying, nobody's taking here's the difference
between Steph and Durant. Steph is proven before Durant got there,
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and after Durant left that he could win without Durant.
Durant hasn't proven he can win without Steph. So to
say that they're the same, it's ridiculous. It's not. It
is the same joint improved it by joining forces. I mean, Chris,
even if even if you take away let's say, hold on,
even if you take away the two the two championships
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with Durant, step still has two and Durant has none. Yeah,
but finals. When he was younger, he got to a fight,
he got to a final. Props getting to a final,
but don't make it. But don't make it like he was.
He didn't even he had no ship. And the same
way the same people who are making a rotting the
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ten finals of the last he lost ten five six finals.
Durant lost his other finals that he got to one
time with his younger two but he lost Lebron lost
six with Tiding without Steff. No. No, My point is
the same way to people, the same way that people
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step for steps because the injuries went through the same
thing Duran same trip for he went to Golden State.
I'm talking about these any of opportunities before he went
to Golden State, Ris the last you're hating eighty seven
seven ninety nine eight seven seven. You you clearly don't
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have lease. I don't have You don't know how because
if you were being jet, I'm not God, They're not
a guy. You wear a scunner in a pot if
you if you were being objective as an objective reporter,
then you wouldn't. You're gonna tell me what of juwit
is Chris? I'm gonna tell you what objective is you?
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What you would told me saying you're you're a prison
of the moment, a whole all the time? Last eight years?
Is that the always? Last year? I don't remember when
he didn't have any points in the fourth quarter or
in overtime against Memphis that I remember you saying this.
You picked the stage last year they got I'm supposed
to last year? Did you don't get subject? I'm asking you?
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Did you get the subject? Yeah? Okay, you thought stuff
was gonna win? You pick the song? No more? I'm saying,
what would be that? Why are you getting off the subject.
I'm just telling you what you go ahead, I'm telling
you what you are? You pick the sons all year?
We could play the tapes. Did A. And now you're
telling me step oh, I knew Stuff was gonna win,
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because I never said I never said gonna win. I'm
asking you, when did I say stuff? Hold on? If
you win the mind, you pick Stuff. If I'm gonna
let you talk, then you gotta let me talk. When
did I say I knew he were gonna win? Other
than picking them before the series? When did I say it?
Rob Parker, I'm asking you. No, I'm asking you when
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did it? Because step the players the greatest, how come
you didn't pick him to win the championship? If you
gonna you you have. You don't want to have a discussion.
Did you pick him? I'm asking you a spot to
see I picked them. No, I'm talking about before the playoffs.
You picked the saw didn't? Yeah? Right, I did so
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just because he's the top ten player means I had
to pick him. I didn't pick the Lakers. Okay, Lebron's
the top ten player. If they're gonna argue and debate
with me, come with some logic and not just emotions.
Seven seven, let me give out the calls eight seven, seven,
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. What do you
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So keep it locked for that. But we're gonna switch
gears a little bit and go to the NFL where, Um,
it's not official, but there's a report from the Waton
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the Washington Post robe that says they believe that the
league is going to push for a one year suspension
of Deshaun Watson. Is Mark Mask of the Washington Post right,
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that the NFL will argue that Watson should receive a
quote unquote significant suspension and that the league quote unquote
probably will ask for a one year banishment. I say
asked because it's got to run through the federal judge.
Retired federal judge Sue Robinson. Um, but that's what they're saying.
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The league is probably going to ask for a Rob
a full year, and they're going in the story they're
hoping for a full year. So it says if the
league thinks that the judge will go, you know, like
whatever they recommend, that she'll go lesser. So if they
recommend a year, she'll cut it to eight games or
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ten games or six games or whatever. Then they might
go even longer than a year, suspecting she'll cut it
and then they'll get the year that they want. So
we'll see. But Rob, you and I have been saying
for weeks that it seems like it's it just seems
like everything's pointing to him not being able to play
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this season, and at least according to this report, that's
what the league would like to see as well, because
there has been no closure to it, and all we
keep getting is more details and more accusations. That's why
we think that it's turning that way. It feels like that,
doesn't It feels like it's gonna be a year, like
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he's not gonna play because of stuff still coming out,
and it's just what a mess. But then again, you know,
we saw the mess with Trevor Bauer. Chris Baseball couldn't
make a decision on him. And when they came with
the decision, they came heavy handed. I mean, he got
two years. That guy was the highest paid player in
baseball last year and and didn't get to play. You know,
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he got all of his money, Chris. But they put
a two year band on Trevor Bauer. I know he's
trying to steal, uh, you know, push back and have
a yeah, an appeal. I don't. I just don't know
where that's gonna go. And I and I get this
here in the NFL. Uh, you know, whether or not
they asked for two years, Chris. So the judge gives one?
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Is that? What is that what they're trying to do?
You know what I mean? Like for two they might
give a year and a half, didn't you like? But
I look a year and a half thing about and
they get a year, Rob. I gotta be honest. I
feel like, and we'll, you know, we'll see if there
are any judgments or whatever, you know, more truth comes out.
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But it feels like these these This is why I
kind of think it should be if he's guilty, I
think it should be like a year. And I think Rob,
that it's getting so ugly it's getting kind of uh,
it's just leaving a bad taste in your mouth. And
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I think that fans got the NFL has to look
at it this way, Rob. We have to do something
where fans will feel like he paid the price. If
he's guilty, fans will feel like he paid the price.
And if you if he comes back after six games
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or eight games, a lot of fans aren't gonna feel
that way. It's still going to be kind of a
yucky taste in their mouth, if you will. When he's
out there playing, right, if you give him a year,
it's like, Okay, he served his time. Obviously they will
do some pr he I assume him and his people
to kind of rehabilitate his image to the degree that
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they can, right, and you know, he'll come back in
the year and people will be like, Okay, look, we
ain't like what he did, but we you know, I mean,
I mean, let's let's not be Uh. People have gotten
second chances and made good on them, and some people
have botched him, but some people made Yeah, I made
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good on a second chance. So I'm not against second chances,
but there has to be some sort of punishment of
the you know, it has to be enough to make
people feel like, okay, because because of what you're talking
about this, you know, like like because of it, and Chris,
just the pure numbers and and and the actions and
and the details that we've heard, right, I mean none
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of them are pretty I mean the details are bad.
You're talking about sixty six women at last count. Uh.
This guy was a pillar in the community. He was
somebody that people respected, and then you go, well, what
was he doing after hours? Like this is is this
who he is? He? Is he really? This guy? Is
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he a predator? You know? Like what? Like those are
the things that people have to be able to get over.
And I don't think that like every time they see him.
You don't want people thinking that, No, you don't. And
so I think that there has to be some sort
of real punishment. And the league is going to uh
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we've been talking about it. I just think a year
will give him time to think about what went down,
have other people say, Okay, he's got his punishment, and
then I think people can reconcile Chris and say and
start the healing process and say, okay, if he's if
he's you know, contrite about it and and just fesses
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up an owned. I want to hear I want to
hear him talk about if he did it right, because
I think I do want to hear I do want
to hear him say I made some mistakes, like like
own it if it's true. If it's true, right, like
because it look if if stuff comes out and I
know the numbers, it doesn't look good. Let's just keep
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it real. I don't know how anybody can think it
looks good. Sixty six women and twenty four are filing fame, right,
but too many? If it comes out, enough evidence the
truth is he's saying comes out and you find out man,
he really I mean this stuff was consensual or he
didn't do a lot of stuff there legend that he did.
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Then I don't think it should be a year. I
mean he still may get something. Rob you. We've talked
about how it doesn't have to be like a guy
is convicted of a crime, remember this is but if
that right, But don't you do you feel almost regardless,
it has to be a year because if if, if
there's enough evidence showing you know what, he didn't do it,
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and that's a big ift. But if it is, even
if they still do a suspension. It shouldn't be the
whole season. Well if you if you say that that
that that's that, that's their finding. I just find it
the pattern is just too big, Like I hear what
you're saying, and the chances of so many women making
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up the same story and they have all the Texas
and the dms Chris and all that other stuff, like
like he's not saying, oh I don't know her, like, oh,
where'd that come from? I don't know who that is?
She's making it up. No, like he had interactions with people.
He admitted that that they had, that he had sex,
consensual sex with some of these women and all that,
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which I'm which, he's a single guy. I know he
had a girlfriend, but he wasn't marry Chris. He didn't
break any laws, right, Okay, I got that. But when
you talk about the NFL and this jurisdiction of we
have a right to protect the shield kind of like
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the John Gruden stuff, you know, like like the John
Gruden stuff of name calling and personal emails, it's a
it's a slippery slope because it doesn't have to be
a conviction in a court of law for them to
do anything and I just think because of the nature
of what it is, they have to send a message
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and let people know that the NFL is not going
to let anybody, just anybody play in this league if
they don't follow certain Well, here's another interesting part of
the story. If the league whatever they come down with,
me perhaps whatever punishment they come down with, but if
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it's a year the there's a report also Robbed that
the Players Association, which obviously is gonna defend Watson, and
this is legitimate, Rob They're saying that the report that
the nfl PA would defend Robinson. I mean, I'm sorry, Watson,
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and their premise would be that, hold up, You've had
owners accused of similar things, not sixty six women and
all that. But Rob, we talked about it. Robert Graft
went to a massage parlor, parlor, it turned sexual. Nothing
happened to him. I still want to you've been looking
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for that video Jerry Jones, Rob remember the pr guy
for the Cowboys who was accused of voyeurism, like filming
cheerleaders and women who were as they were changing. And
there was nothing came of that, No punishment for Jones
or rich Dalrymple, which is the pr chiefs name, and
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then Daniel schneiderob what was it. Women were saying they've
been sexually harassed hundreds of times, and the league has
not done anything about that, in fact, didn't even want
a written report. That doesn't mean what Watson's done is okay,
But there is a line rob in the personal Conduct
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Policy for the league that says this ownership and club
or league management have traditionally been held to a higher
standard and will be subject to more significant discipline when
violations of the Personal Conduct Policy occur. So they're saying,
the Players Association is gonna say, okay, how are you?
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You don't punish these owners for something that's in the
same And none of that seems as bad as we
watching it, but it's still you know, it's certainly not
a good look, and it certainly violates your personal conduct.
But you're gonna get sick this guy out for a
year when you said owners will be held to a
higher standard. And that's interesting, Rob, especially when you bring
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in and they might do it. And this don't feel
good to me. The racial dynamic three white owners and
the league doesn't really do anything about these sexual harassment
issues with them, But the black player, and you throw
the book at him, so to speak, with a year
long as he's mentioned, it's gonna be interesting if they
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go that route. Well, I think the NFL has a
strong case from this damnpoint that they forced Jerry Richardson
to sell his team after sexual about these three though
I'm not making an excuse, but they did. He was
forced to sell, and so they will make the argument
that when there was set including sexual harassment uh in
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the workplace, the league did force him the sell, remember
Jerry whatever Richardson. Though I'm not the recent ones. I'm
just saying, like if I'm if I'm the defense, I'm
not like okay, I'm like, okay, fine, what about these guys? Right?
But but to say but to say that they've never
done it or the owner's skate is not true. What
I'm saying, well, why haven't they done anything to those guys.
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I don't know why, because I think it's bs. But
I'm just saying they could say, we have disciplined people
when it's reached a certain thing. And in Jerry Richardson's case,
it was alleged, right, sexual harassment of women at the workplace.
So I think that they look Daniel Snyder has been
accused of I'm their workplace, I should say not him. Yeah,
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I'm just saying, it's not like they haven't done it.
And that was even when Jerry Richardson was the first
former player to own a team, I think, and he
was one of those old guards Chris and they got
him out of there like a sap. So I don't know,
I'm weird. I would say that some of the owners
have gotten away, but I don't think that's gonna stop
them from punishing Deshaun Watson. And they're gonna say this,
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I would not really want if he if it looks
like he's guilty, I would still want him to be punished.
I would in an ideal world, the league would also
do something with these owners, and we know it's not
gonna be equal to what Watson gets, but something. But
I'll admit it wouldn't feel good that if based on this,
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like say, you know, this is their defense and an
independent judge says, you know what, you're right, he's not
suspended at all. I wouldn't feel good about that if
it looks like he did it. But I'd rather them
give all of these people owners player in this case
Deshaun Watson, who have who have done things like this.
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If it's true, then they all get off scott free.
And Jim earth Say was suspended by the NFL for
six games and find five hundred thousand dollars when he
was involved in that DWI arrest. So he did get
suspend it for six games and had a five hundred
thousand dollars fine violating the league's personnel can conduct UH policy.
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So Ursy did. The one is Robert Kraft and him
and well commissioner. They didn't look into the Cowboys with
Jerry Jones with that pr guy sore. But there have
been some owners who have been suspended and fine or whatever.
So it will be interesting. And here's the other part, Chris,
I just think the players union it sounds good. They're
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very weak. I just don't think they're gonna do that.
What are they gonna do. They're gonna threaten the NFL
or we're not gonna put that. They're not gonna do
anything in the NFL. You this, it goes to an
independent you know council, right, it won't. It's not like
the NFL's decision anymore, you know, by itself so I
hear you though they are a weak union, but you know,
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we see if they're But I think that's interesting, Rod,
because I think there is some truth to that. I mean,
we've seen guys. You didn't want I have to just skate,
but he did so No, I'm not think what he
did was what necessarily the equivalent of Watson. But still,
all right, we assault is one of those things that
that that's like the Trevor Bauer thing. As strong as
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the Baseball Union is, Chris, they had to sign off
on a two year suspension to Trevor Bauer, right, I mean,
you you're know how strong baseball union is. A neighbor like, dude,
there's nothing we can do for you. We can't help you.
Eight seven seven nine ninety six, sixty three sixty nine.
How would you feel about a year long suspension for
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h Deshaun Watson? Do you think that would be fair?
And what do you think of this defense that the
players reportedly may go to, which is what about Robert Kraft,
Jerry Jones, Daniel Schneider. You're turning away with the eye
a couple of Chris and Robb Fox Sports Radio eight
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seven seven nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine. What
would you think of a year long suspension for Deshaun Watson,
particularly in light of this report that the Players Association
will defend him by saying, Hey, what about Robert Kraft
and Daniel Snyder and Jerry Jones and the Cowboys? So
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your thoughts? Uh? Frankie in Redding, California, you're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What up, Frankie? Hey?
What's going on? Guys? Love you? What's up? Man? Thank you? Hey?
I mean Ridley guys suspended for one year right for
gambling and Deshaun Watson. It's all over the wall. I
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mean even if he's that's just too much. Yeah, it's
too much, right, that's that's obviously we know the gambling.
You know, we know that the league obviously is gonna
come down hard on anything like that. Um, but you
know that's a good point, Rob, That's interesting, No, no doubt.
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Thanks Frankie, appreciate the info. Jerome in South Carolina, you're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Rading? What up, Jerome? Well?
I grew up here, I was born to rich here.
A lot of the Primson people aren't shocked, man, they're
just like a tourist shock about this school thing. But
didn't you hear Trump? When you're a celebrity, they let
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you get away with it. And this is just one
more example. Man, Well you are shocked about this man,
So you're down there control let's that's I'm glad you're
so you're down there in that area. We Robin and
I have talked about it. His reputation and image was
not just oh he's he's never been in trouble. It
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was he is gone. He goes above and beyond and
is a great young man. So I can imagine how
you guys are just stunned, because because when you hear
you know, right, do you know, are some people like
huh we kind of knew? Or is everybody just completely
like what like we had no idea or we don't
believe it? Or what? Hey? Look all you can't look
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down the way. This is real. They got air to
do something because they'll go have to do something, no doubt.
All right, Jerome, Thanks, We appreciate you a latif in Seattle,
you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio? What up? Yeah?
What are you guys? Fan of the show. Thank I'm
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I'm kind of an agreement where uh kind of maybe
the year and then maybe give um eight games because
you gotta remember a seventeen game now. And the issue
all is him seeking out these women's right, That's kind
of part of the behavior and the fact that it's
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sixty so after smoking them the fire, and I think
he's just taken to all. I mean, you get paid
sixty million a year and you're just waiting. You ain't
got learn, Yeah, but you don't get get other things.
I get it. You don't want to. You don't want
it to be a rush to judgment, so you gotta
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take your time. And Chris we said it, Look how
long baseball took with Bauer, Trevor Bauer, remember up to
extended way way way way, And let's keep it real too.
There these leagues too, they look at public opinion too.
They're taking the temperature, you know what I mean. In
addition to investigating, they're also kind of seeing how things
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play out, what are fans thinking, what are women thinking,
and all of that too. So I think that's why
some of the delay as well. We got Carrie Kittles
and been too. Two NBA finals are man Carrie kittles. Carry.
What's up, brothers, what's happening? How are you good? I
refreshed my men. Did you pick Boston? I did not?
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So I I won. The first bet that we had
was which was the Celtics against I want to see
the heat? Or was it against the Buck? I think it?
His next was that you won that? Okay, okay? And
then the second one I lost. And if I had
the Celtics coming out, oh you did have this. You
had the Celtics beating Golden stated, So how surprised are
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you at two? One the Golden State one? But two?
I mean, we saw the Celtics make Durant struggle badly,
give Yanni's problems. I mean, yann has put up numbers obviously. Uh.
And then to see Steph Curry shoot forty nine overall,
forty five from forty two from three thirty one points,
you know, like, how surprised are you that he played
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so well offensively against them and that they beat them
in overall? I'm a bit surprised because you know, although
Steph Curry is as an excellent player off the dribble
as well, he really excels um and mismatches and the
and the Celtics were doing so much switching, and Marcus
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Smart didn't get as much as I wanted to see
airtime guarding him one on one. It was Steph Curry again,
Grant Williams, it was Steph Curry against Tatum. It was
Steph Curry against Al Harford. That that really favored the Warriors,
and he really exposed the defensive schemes. And but look,
hats off the Curry. He's an excellent player and he
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showed up big when his team needed him to. What
about Jason Tatum, we can't say the same. I mean
people were already ready to put him ahead of Kevin
Durant earlier in the playoffs, which was premature, and he
didn't play well in the finals. I mean what happened.
What happened was Andrew Wiggins. I think that's the that's
the key. Mean, when he saw what he did and
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how he really challenge done in the in the in
the Western Conference finals. And he's got great lateral movement,
he contest shots really well. He's long, and he has
an he has a knack for keeping guys in front
of him, and he really challenged Tatum. I mean only
average twenty one points in the finals, shot thirty six
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percent from the field. He shot well from three, but
from the field thirty percent for a guy who was
dominant in the postseason. We did not see that from
Tatum at all. And that's all Andrew Wiggins. But hey, listen, guys,
Andrew Wiggins quote after Game five to me was the
quote and he said, he said, they have a winning culture.
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They put you in the position to succeed. They always
bring out the best in you. Very supportive, and I
think that that quote resonated with me more than anything
in the postseason. Having this organization do what they've done
the last seven eight years, building that culture, Steve Kerr
and cast allowing Wiggins to perform the way he's performed
(42:38):
since he's been in that organization. I mean, he really
looked like a younger Igordalla out there right when he
won Finals MVP, playing both sides of the ball and
just impacting the game. That's all culture, well carry. I
loved the trade for Wiggins from the get go. A
lot of people didn't like it. I loved it because
I felt like, this dude is a really landed player.
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But I felt like he didn't want in Minnesota average
twenty points a game, but like he was one of
those guys it didn't really want the responsibility of having
to get you twenty five a night. And obviously in
Golden State he doesn't. After we can just go out
there defend. You know, if he gives you twenty, it's
it's gravy. I think they're you know, I've covered the
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league obviously for almost three decades. I feel like there've
been players like that in the league. But you're a player,
do you know that there were a lot of guys
and are a lot of guys that are like that,
Like they just don't want that burden. They might have
the talent, but they don't want that burden of every
night I gotta put the team on my back and
give them twenty five points and I really don't want that. Yeah,
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I think you're right. There's a lot of players that,
you know, once you get that sucking contract and you're
financially set, then it's like, okay, if you if you're
the guy that has to, you know, shoulder the load
every night, it wears you out. Give it four years,
five years, you know, like Lebron was in Cleveland seven years, Max,
and you just out there score all the points. This
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gets old man. Having a team that has other great
players takes the pressure off you to allows you to
sell into your role. However, listen, that team has gotten
the most out of him. I mean his effort defensively
and this postseason was incredible. Credit Raymond Green and the
rest of those guys for building that culture and this
the pressure with him just saying I can just be
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me in this organization, and wow, it speaks to what
teams should be striving to build more of and emphasize
more of its culture. And speaking of Draymond Green, you know,
finally turned down the volume and played a little bit.
I mean, I don't have anything. It just seemed like
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it was too loud about Draymond and the podcast and
all that, and people should have a voice and could
do that stuff. But it can't get in the way
of playing basket coball, can it? No? No, not not
in the NBA finals. We haven't seen any player, right
have that podium like that in the NBA Finals and
that microphone, that megaphone, baby, all right, and to still
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go out there and perform. We haven't seen that before,
and so I think it was wise of him the
last week or so, the criticism was there. I'm sure
he saw a little bit of heat. His performance was
very subpar at best, and he quiet down the last
five days and he performed well. I mean, I don't
know if that really go hand in hand, but I
think it worked in his favor. Hopefully a lesson learned
(45:33):
for Daymond Green. See, I'm with you. I think I
think so. I think somebody got to him and said, dude,
just tone it down a little bit. Okay, we don't
don't need to do that. Carry There's been a lot
to talk about, you know, what this championship means for Durant.
And when Durant went to Golden State, he has said
he wanted to play selfless basketball. He liked, you know,
(45:54):
a complete game. The way they moved the ball, the
players saw on him. So forth. Brooklyn is heavy ICEO,
and so even with Durant and Kate and Kyrie as
great as they are, they obviously were fairly easy. I
should say, you know, that's an overstatement, but you know,
easier for Boston to stop. Yeah. Do you think that
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the Nets need to incorporate more player movement, ball movement,
things like that, or do you see them just kind
of going with the same old thing and being like,
we got two superstars and now we're gonna have Ben
Simmons who's a great passer and defender, and we'll be
able to win that way. Yeah, I think that's a
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struggle right in today's game is it's to get teams
and to get great players to buy into moving right.
This game has now changed. You may be a great
one on one player, but if you're not moving without
the ball in today's game, you're not like and I
see a lot of players struggling with that offensively right
when the balls in their hands are great, but one
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it's not. They're just standing around watching that action. And
you're right, great defensive teams key in on you. I mean,
I was at the Mavericks game in Brooklyn this year
and Jason Kidd was like, I know Kylee wasn't out there,
but Katie was out there, and he's like, you're not
doing this by yourself. You have to. And so you're
seeing great defensive teams do that, and you have to
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move without the ball that the ball has to move,
players have to move, and the nets have to really
look at that at their style of player offensively and
say hey, can we get more player movement like that?
Easier buckets, harder us out when you're switching. Now, we
take advance of mismatches that all bleeds into a winning,
successful culture that we've seen the Warriors build up now
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and it's now on all the pilot guys. Who can
stop an organization that has that kind of continuity that's
just built into what they do. All right? That's our man,
carry kids, great stuff and great season with us year. Yeah,
and I'm gonna get you up right now that you
know to see this is over. We can go get
that that meal. I owe you that same dinner. I think. Alright, alright,
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you fly out to LA and I'll get you your meal.
So I'm just saying, you gotta buy a ticket for
ticket Rob's meal. All right, brother, keep it like a
couple of five sports radio, all right, This is the
a couple of Christian robe wrapping up a funky flashback Friday.
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Rob kicking it in Chicago this weekend going to a
Cubs game. I will be with my daughter and wife
and mother in law and a family friend. One of
my daughters. One of them won't be to make it
but we're going out robe day. Yep, Father's Day. We
go to church um in the morning and then go
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to a brunch afterwards. So I'm looking forward to that. Yeah,
I'm looking forward to that. They buy you a Father's
Day gift. They buy you a boxes, three pairs of
socks and some rush on. You know. I'm trying to
remember if they they. I think the three of them
get me a gift. Um. I always joking him, I say, look,
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don't each of you don't spend more. Remember, don't spend
more than two hundred and fifty dollars on me for
my Father's They get too fulways laugh, right, don't worry.
Don't worry about that, right too much. I don't know
if they I'm trying. I can't remember the last few years,
but I think they, my wife and them would usually
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come bin and get me a gift. I'm gonna say
this real quick, and I don't want to get to melancholy,
but I think it's important, um to make sure if
you have any kind of riff with your dad, or
you haven't talked to them, or you need to pick
up the phone, and because you just don't know, and
I'm I'm having a riff with my dad. But I
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was working. I was covering the Red's game, Red's Phillies
in Philadelphia, and I was real busy, and it was
Father's Day, was you know day, Chris, and and I'm
on my way to the next city, and I'm like
rushing through, you know, just trying to get my work
done and move on. And it's starting to get late,
and I remember I stopped everything and I picked up
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the phone and I called him and we talked and
I wished him happy Father's Day. Blah blah blah blah blah.
He was dead the next week and now he's sick.
Did you know. I'm just nah, it was it was
the right and and my point is that I probably
would have been sick that I didn't call him, you
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know what I mean, because you know, everybody gets busy,
and yeah, we hadn't talked, you know what I mean,
like on a regular basis, but we had talked. But
it always sticks with me because it was Father's Day
and I made sure I called him, and then to
lose him. So that's why I want to pass that
out to everybody. Make sure you pick up that phone,
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even if you maybe Chris have a little rial for
you know, like a disagreement. You just don't know. Nah, man, Look,
family is more important, like my my priorities in life,
a god, family, career, and so I would definitely recommend
that advice you gave to anybody. My parents are living
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with me now, you know, my father and my mother,
and I gotta be honest, man, I've enjoyed it, you know,
and it's like and I definitely can see my parents
enjoy it. But yeah, and I thought about, like, you know,
in the old days, if you I mean, but way
before us, you know, people kind of grew old and
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the family was around you know what I mean, and
you're you grow old, but you're around your kids, your grandkids,
so on and so forth. And now it's different because
you know, people are moving around. We moved around a
lot when I was a kid, you know that. That's
why I'm from so many places. And now you know,
my parents were living in Cleveland. I I'm living in Jersey.
My brother lives in Detroit and so or near Detroit,
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and so we're all in different places. A lot of
my families in Louisiana. So it's been nice because they're
you know they're older, and they're around us, and they're
around their grandkids and my dad and now are watching
playoff games together and right, so I got be honest.
I've enjoyed it. It's not a burden. And um, and
I can see that they've enjoyed it too. Um. I
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joke with him, I'm like, you know, see, y'all, if
you were in Cleveland, you just be sitting around, sitting
there watching TV all day, and now you can be
here sitting around watching TV all day. Right, you're right, right,
But you're right, Rob, that's a good word. Yeah, you know,
(52:50):
so you're right. If you got the issues with your
dad or something, pick up the five squat, squash your
ego inside if if or you know, even if, yeah,
just put it aside and squash it and have a
great father. That's what Happy Father's Day, Chris and everybody
else out there, a happy father's day. I've been practicing
(53:11):
T time. I just haven't gotten there yet. But I
how much practice you're getting. But I'll go with your story.
Take time to be a dad today.
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a great show for you today. Obviously, last night, another
NBA champion was crowned, this one a familiar one. Four
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time champion now the Golden State Warriors, or at least
four times in this era. Of course, they won a
championship before with Rick Barry nineteen seventy five. But they
won their fourth in eight years and did it in
impressive fashion in the Boston Garden, only the second time
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a team has done that in the Garden. Clinched and
closed out the Celtics in Boston. So we'll get into
all that and much much more. A little bit of
news coming down about Deshauna Watson as well, at least
what looks like it may be in the works, so
we'll get in all that. So keep it locked right
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x Shunel eighty three. However you may be listening, let
me welcome in my partner, Rob Parker. What's up man?
What's happened to mister Chris Bussard? How are you? I
am great? I am great, um excited about this show. Yes,
we got a big show today. I am in Chicago
and it's warm, feels like summer, and uh, could they
(02:12):
be here? I had another nice lunch today and with
the person who is responsible for you having to work
with me every every day. Lorna Gladstone hired me at
w DFN in Detroit, Chris in nineteen ninety four, our
first full time radio show, so I had her number.
I would love to tell her mind. And you know
(02:36):
what's so cool is yeah, she hired me and we've
been uh stayed in contact all these years. Chris, you
know on he worked with her for a year, but
she hired me, So I'm in Chicago for the weekend,
going to the Cubs game tomorrow, Cubs Brave. So it's
all good, all good, all right, sounds good, All right.
We got the Eye couple, crew in and Iowa, sam
(03:00):
My favorites. Who feels Jay, Alex Tyson flashback, Chris, your
bond with Iowa is out the window. I want you
to know me and i Me and Iowa have now
we have a stronger bond that you can no longer
could you live in Did you ever live in Ia? Okay?
They did. I was one of those plays that when
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you've lived there, it's a bond. All places aren't like that. Okay,
Iowa is I was saying, Am I wrong or right?
That's very true? But I will say last week a
little Rob's game ground because he uh, he got a
little video shout out from my guy Luca Garza, who
was the AP Player of the Year a few years
ago for Iowa. So yeah, I saw this shout out.
(03:43):
So that was very touching. So Rob's definitely he's like
kin to me now, game ground is one? Sure what
I mean you can say, can't you don't have that bond? Hey?
You know what, I stomp you in a minute I
was saying, come on, what about that Iowa Bob. He didn't, Chris.
He didn't ask me for anything. He just saw that
that uh Luca was there, and I did it for him.
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He didn't ask for anything I solicited. It was very nice.
He was just like, hey, I see uh Luca's there,
and I was like okay. And then when I told Luca,
he was like, so, let's make a video for my
guys Iowa saying, and that was it. All right, I
can't pick favorites here. Come on, wait, you said, yeah, yeah,
Luca Luka Garza, who was campus a couple of years.
(04:26):
I thought initially you said Luca knew Iowa Sam. No
he do, he does now? No. He had a nice
little career at Iowa, really right, and he did great
at the US. Was one of Gaston's favorite players, right right? Yeah? Sure, okay,
all right, we got so Iowa Sam's then Danny Ge
(04:47):
Wait till you hear this voice. You're gonna be like
Danny Ge needs to be on the mic right now
being here with you guys on Friday. No, it's like
Wolfman Jack or something. Rob Yes, but who's really for?
Rob Gee? Whose real name was Bob Smith, christ By
Wolfman and Uh, of course on the updates our man
(05:09):
Steve This say, all right, Rob, I want to ask you, Uh,
Steph Curry's now and the Warriors got their fourth championship
in this run. Steph was fantastic last night. Uh thirty
one point I'm sorry, thirty four points? Don't Keevin assist?
Seven rebounds? What'd you say? Cheven rebounds? Hit thirteen points
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in the fourth quarter, Several big shots, a lot of
them drives, you know when the Celtics, because Rob, like
we've talked about before, I think in this era now
they're close twelve point games, and when Boston they cut
it to nine, they cut it to ten, it was
just like, okay, are they you know, are they about
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to have a run and get hot? Every time that happened,
Steph had a driving lay up a lot of times
took our Horford, we got on the switch to the bucket,
finished on him. There's a great overall performance and of
course he was named the finals MVP and it wasn't close.
It's definitive his series. So here's what I want to
(06:15):
ask you, Rob, what do you think this championship does
for Steph Curry's legacy and this Arriers team. If you're like, yeah,
I mean obviously it enhances it. I don't think to me,
it catapults him into the top ten. I think I've
seen a lot of people. I think that's prisoner of
(06:37):
the moment. I think there's a lot of that going on.
He's had a great career. I don't know if he
didn't have a super team put together. And then here's
the other issue that I have, is it Steph Curry
and nobody or now all of a sudden, it seems
as if he has nobody like Clay and Draymond and
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Durant doesn't matter like he It's all Steph Curry. And
that's why I think people starting that just I just
hear people talk about Steph and you know what, he's
been able to accomplish, accomplish, And it's too bad that
a more on vacation next week because we could have
done a little bit more of it. And then of
course Lebron's name came up last night, which it would
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because he has four championships and people are starting to say, well,
is this the Lebron era? He won four? But Steph
won four during his era? As well, and whose career
is better? You know? Is this the lebron Ero? Is
this the Steph era? You know? So that was another
thing that, like I said, not for today, but as
you go forward with the story. So yeah, he obviously
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up did his steak is his profile for people to
have that conversation or feel comfortable, whereas had he not won,
I don't think that you would have that we'd be
talking anything about that. So, yeah, he did up his profile,
his career, his read to may and it'll be hard
for anybody to argue that he can't be in that
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in a conversation of some of the greatest players who
ever played. Yeah, I think he has to be in
the discussion for top ten of all time. Obviously a subjective,
so some will have him been there's no, there's no
I do have him in the top ten. I think
rob the discussion went from who do you take out?
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To oh, he gotta be in. I mean when you
when you now he's not mad, I don't have him
next to Magic Johnson that some might be trying to
say he's the best point guard ever. I got Magic
as that, but Magic Bird, Kobe duncan shock. You don't
say who you're taking out, You say they're in, and
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they gotta be in. And I think STEP's there. And
I don't think it's you know, anybody's dismissing Clay and
Draymond and even Durant. I just think that we everybody
understands this is his team, and it was even his
team when Durant was there. He set the culture. Like
Tim Duncan, they were always Tim Duncan's team, even as
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he was beginning to fade, and Tony Parker was the
focal point of the offense, and Duncan was just a
great defender, communicator and still you know, got rebounds and
what scored when he needed to. But you understood it
was his team. He set the culture, He was the
centerpiece of the dynasty. So I think that's why you
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hear more, obviously as you should about Steph, just like
you heard about Michael with Lebron's championships. You hear about him.
It's not to dismiss the others, but it's understanding that
he was the star or even bird. You know, Mchael
in Paris and Dennis Johnson are all Hall of famers
in their own right, but we look at it as
the bird Celtics, and I think what it does rob
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and we'll get into, you know, the top ten later
in the show. It hills all the yeah butts to me,
it answers every question. Now there was a question of
no finals MVP, Well that's been answered. There was a
question of well there was no finals. He really distinguished
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himself and dominant. Well, if that's been answered. He'd averaged
thirty one points forty eight percent, shooting forty two percent
from three, six rebounds, and five dimes plus two steals
against either the best or the second best to the
Warriors defense in the NBA, a defense that had really
given Kevin Durant problems, gave Yanni's problems, and gave Jimmy
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Butler problems, and he did his thing against them. I
also think it answered the not clutch you know stuff.
Did he hit a buzzer beater? No, there was no need,
but he Game four if they lose that, Now, they
did just beat Boston three straights, so maybe maybe they
would being able to come back from three one down,
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but obviously you don't think they would have. So that
was a must win essentially, and he goes out and
has the best game of his career plus ten rebounds
in addition to the forty three points, and then last
night coming back from you know, the mediocre. I don't
think it was a bad game, a mediocre game five
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and drops thirty four. Like I said, thirteen points in
the fourth quarter, big bucket, whether a three or driving layup.
So I think he answered the clutch issue as well.
And so I don't think there are any more questions
about him. People can can yeah, go ahead, I think
there are. I disagree from the stempoint that you're looking
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at his career and saying that everything as that STEP's done.
There's two things that still stick out, which which you
can always use in the equation, is that he it's
his team. They choked down a three to one lead
which had never happened, and he was there. He was
the guy that couldn't get one win at number two.
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Would he have two championships? Fact? No, what is that?
I'm just talking about a question? No, no, no, I'm
just saying it ain't perfect. No, no, no, i I'm
saying I look at what I didn't say it was perfect.
I think he's answered every question. What's the question you
just proposed? Yeah? And then the other question is despite
what's the first question. No, I'm saying that that for
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a lot of people, they act like that never happened,
is what I'm trying to say, Like that's not a
part of his dialogue. People, No, I think they're just
saying that doesn't take away from his greatness that I
think it does. What how can Lebron be the second
best ever? With what happened against Dallas? He didn't lose,
but nobody's ever done three one? Yeah, but nobody. A
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few superstars have melted down like Lebron did and just
eleven like matt Urn is a different animal because of
the numbers and the sheer numbers of what he will
eventually have. So when you look at Lebron, no, but
also the numbers, he's gonna be the all time leading scorer.
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He's done all his things, the most points in the
playoffs because of his longevity and being in the postseason
that much, so he has a he has a different
criteria for me, And I'm just saying the other part
is would he really have four championships without Kevin Durant?
So what magic without Kareem? But but that team wasn't Lebron.
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I'm just asking you, like, really, that was his teammate.
They maximized it together because Kevin Durant was his team. Yes, yes,
because of this, Because I'm trying to tell you because
at the same conversation that people have had about Durant
where they questioned, uh, his winning those two championships with
that squad that put it over the top joined the Warriors,
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they looked at it and said, this is ridiculous, this
is bad. So I'm just saying that it goes both ways.
It goes for Durant and it goes for staff, who
agreed to having Kevin Durant. He could have stopped it
and said, we don't need Kevin Durant, let's do our
own thing. I don't want Kevin Durant. He could have
done that, but he shouldn't have done that because he
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wanted to have his own thing. I don't need to
have his own thing. No, but he don't didn't need
the thing. But I mean, that's like saying Magic shouldn't
have wanted to play with Kareem No, that's played with
like five Hall of famers when he won his championship. No, no, no,
but he didn't It wasn't after he had won a
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championship that he brought those people on. They hadn't won Boston.
Wasn't that good, Chris? When Bird got there, they weren't.
They had a bunch of Hall of famers, but they
weren't good. Go look at the record of the year
was here. He got there. I'm just saying, and then
they want it. They didn't into the next year. They
wanted his second right, but Bird being and he wasn't
even the finals MVP. He had eight points in two games,
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shot three for eleven back game. But but but Bird changed,
the culture changed that team step did. They wasn't very
good before. All I'm saying is there are people, including me,
who will say I'm not convinced that Steph would have
won those other two championships because they lost probably caused
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Lebron two championships. That Steph and the Warriors did what
Lebron did in Miami by putting together a super team,
and so it wound up buying Lebron in the butt.
But but I'm just saying, nobody's taking here's the difference
between Steph and Durant. Steph is proven before Durant got there,
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and after Durant left that he could win without Durant.
Durant hasn't proven he can win without Steph. So to
say that they're the same, it's ridiculous. It's not. It
is the same joint improved it by joining forces. I mean, Chris,
even if even if you take away let's say, hold on,
even if you take away the two the two championships
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with Durant, step still has two and Durant has none. Yeah,
but finals. When he was younger, he got to a fight,
he got to a final. Props getting to a final,
but don't make it. But don't make it like he was.
He didn't even he had no ship. And the same
way the same people who are making a rotting the
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ten finals of the last he lost ten five six finals.
Durant lost his other finals that he got to one
time with his younger two but he lost Lebron lost
six with Tiding without Steff. No. No, My point is
the same way to people, the same way that people
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step for steps because the injuries went through the same
thing Duran same trip for he went to Golden State.
I'm talking about these any of opportunities before he went
to Golden State, Ris the last you're hating eighty seven
seven ninety nine eight seven seven. You you clearly don't
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have lease. I don't have You don't know how because
if you were being jet, I'm not God, They're not
a guy. You wear a scunner in a pot if
you if you were being objective as an objective reporter,
then you wouldn't. You're gonna tell me what of juwit
is Chris? I'm gonna tell you what objective is you?
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What you would told me saying you're you're a prison
of the moment, a whole all the time? Last eight years?
Is that the always? Last year? I don't remember when
he didn't have any points in the fourth quarter or
in overtime against Memphis that I remember you saying this.
You picked the stage last year they got I'm supposed
to last year? Did you don't get subject? I'm asking you?
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Did you get the subject? Yeah? Okay, you thought stuff
was gonna win? You pick the song? No more? I'm saying,
what would be that? Why are you getting off the subject.
I'm just telling you what you go ahead, I'm telling
you what you are? You pick the sons all year?
We could play the tapes. Did A. And now you're
telling me step oh, I knew Stuff was gonna win,
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because I never said I never said gonna win. I'm
asking you, when did I say stuff? Hold on? If
you win the mind, you pick Stuff. If I'm gonna
let you talk, then you gotta let me talk. When
did I say I knew he were gonna win? Other
than picking them before the series? When did I say it?
Rob Parker, I'm asking you. No, I'm asking you when
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did it? Because step the players the greatest, how come
you didn't pick him to win the championship? If you
gonna you you have. You don't want to have a discussion.
Did you pick him? I'm asking you a spot to
see I picked them. No, I'm talking about before the playoffs.
You picked the saw didn't? Yeah? Right, I did so
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just because he's the top ten player means I had
to pick him. I didn't pick the Lakers. Okay, Lebron's
the top ten player. If they're gonna argue and debate
with me, come with some logic and not just emotions.
Seven seven, let me give out the calls eight seven, seven,
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. What do you
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So keep it locked for that. But we're gonna switch
gears a little bit and go to the NFL where, Um,
it's not official, but there's a report from the Waton
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the Washington Post robe that says they believe that the
league is going to push for a one year suspension
of Deshaun Watson. Is Mark Mask of the Washington Post right,
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that the NFL will argue that Watson should receive a
quote unquote significant suspension and that the league quote unquote
probably will ask for a one year banishment. I say
asked because it's got to run through the federal judge.
Retired federal judge Sue Robinson. Um, but that's what they're saying.
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The league is probably going to ask for a Rob
a full year, and they're going in the story they're
hoping for a full year. So it says if the
league thinks that the judge will go, you know, like
whatever they recommend, that she'll go lesser. So if they
recommend a year, she'll cut it to eight games or
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ten games or six games or whatever. Then they might
go even longer than a year, suspecting she'll cut it
and then they'll get the year that they want. So
we'll see. But Rob, you and I have been saying
for weeks that it seems like it's it just seems
like everything's pointing to him not being able to play
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this season, and at least according to this report, that's
what the league would like to see as well, because
there has been no closure to it, and all we
keep getting is more details and more accusations. That's why
we think that it's turning that way. It feels like that,
doesn't It feels like it's gonna be a year, like
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he's not gonna play because of stuff still coming out,
and it's just what a mess. But then again, you know,
we saw the mess with Trevor Bauer. Chris Baseball couldn't
make a decision on him. And when they came with
the decision, they came heavy handed. I mean, he got
two years. That guy was the highest paid player in
baseball last year and and didn't get to play. You know,
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he got all of his money, Chris. But they put
a two year band on Trevor Bauer. I know he's
trying to steal, uh, you know, push back and have
a yeah, an appeal. I don't. I just don't know
where that's gonna go. And I and I get this
here in the NFL. Uh, you know, whether or not
they asked for two years, Chris. So the judge gives one?
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Is that? What is that what they're trying to do?
You know what I mean? Like for two they might
give a year and a half, didn't you like? But
I look a year and a half thing about and
they get a year, Rob. I gotta be honest. I
feel like, and we'll, you know, we'll see if there
are any judgments or whatever, you know, more truth comes out.
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But it feels like these these This is why I
kind of think it should be if he's guilty, I
think it should be like a year. And I think Rob,
that it's getting so ugly it's getting kind of uh,
it's just leaving a bad taste in your mouth. And
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I think that fans got the NFL has to look
at it this way, Rob. We have to do something
where fans will feel like he paid the price. If
he's guilty, fans will feel like he paid the price.
And if you if he comes back after six games
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or eight games, a lot of fans aren't gonna feel
that way. It's still going to be kind of a
yucky taste in their mouth, if you will. When he's
out there playing, right, if you give him a year,
it's like, Okay, he served his time. Obviously they will
do some pr he I assume him and his people
to kind of rehabilitate his image to the degree that
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they can, right, and you know, he'll come back in
the year and people will be like, Okay, look, we
ain't like what he did, but we you know, I mean,
I mean, let's let's not be Uh. People have gotten
second chances and made good on them, and some people
have botched him, but some people made Yeah, I made
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good on a second chance. So I'm not against second chances,
but there has to be some sort of punishment of
the you know, it has to be enough to make
people feel like, okay, because because of what you're talking
about this, you know, like like because of it, and Chris,
just the pure numbers and and and the actions and
and the details that we've heard, right, I mean none
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of them are pretty I mean the details are bad.
You're talking about sixty six women at last count. Uh.
This guy was a pillar in the community. He was
somebody that people respected, and then you go, well, what
was he doing after hours? Like this is is this
who he is? He? Is he really? This guy? Is
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he a predator? You know? Like what? Like those are
the things that people have to be able to get over.
And I don't think that like every time they see him.
You don't want people thinking that, No, you don't. And
so I think that there has to be some sort
of real punishment. And the league is going to uh
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we've been talking about it. I just think a year
will give him time to think about what went down,
have other people say, Okay, he's got his punishment, and
then I think people can reconcile Chris and say and
start the healing process and say, okay, if he's if
he's you know, contrite about it and and just fesses
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up an owned. I want to hear I want to
hear him talk about if he did it right, because
I think I do want to hear I do want
to hear him say I made some mistakes, like like
own it if it's true. If it's true, right, like
because it look if if stuff comes out and I
know the numbers, it doesn't look good. Let's just keep
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it real. I don't know how anybody can think it
looks good. Sixty six women and twenty four are filing fame, right,
but too many? If it comes out, enough evidence the
truth is he's saying comes out and you find out man,
he really I mean this stuff was consensual or he
didn't do a lot of stuff there legend that he did.
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Then I don't think it should be a year. I
mean he still may get something. Rob you. We've talked
about how it doesn't have to be like a guy
is convicted of a crime, remember this is but if
that right, But don't you do you feel almost regardless,
it has to be a year because if if, if
there's enough evidence showing you know what, he didn't do it,
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and that's a big ift. But if it is, even
if they still do a suspension. It shouldn't be the
whole season. Well if you if you say that that
that that's that, that's their finding. I just find it
the pattern is just too big, Like I hear what
you're saying, and the chances of so many women making
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up the same story and they have all the Texas
and the dms Chris and all that other stuff, like
like he's not saying, oh I don't know her, like, oh,
where'd that come from? I don't know who that is?
She's making it up. No, like he had interactions with people.
He admitted that that they had, that he had sex,
consensual sex with some of these women and all that,
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which I'm which, he's a single guy. I know he
had a girlfriend, but he wasn't marry Chris. He didn't
break any laws, right, Okay, I got that. But when
you talk about the NFL and this jurisdiction of we
have a right to protect the shield kind of like
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the John Gruden stuff, you know, like like the John
Gruden stuff of name calling and personal emails, it's a
it's a slippery slope because it doesn't have to be
a conviction in a court of law for them to
do anything and I just think because of the nature
of what it is, they have to send a message
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and let people know that the NFL is not going
to let anybody, just anybody play in this league if
they don't follow certain Well, here's another interesting part of
the story. If the league whatever they come down with,
me perhaps whatever punishment they come down with, but if
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it's a year the there's a report also Robbed that
the Players Association, which obviously is gonna defend Watson, and
this is legitimate, Rob They're saying that the report that
the nfl PA would defend Robinson. I mean, I'm sorry, Watson,
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and their premise would be that, hold up, You've had
owners accused of similar things, not sixty six women and
all that. But Rob, we talked about it. Robert Graft
went to a massage parlor, parlor, it turned sexual. Nothing
happened to him. I still want to you've been looking
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for that video Jerry Jones, Rob remember the pr guy
for the Cowboys who was accused of voyeurism, like filming
cheerleaders and women who were as they were changing. And
there was nothing came of that, No punishment for Jones
or rich Dalrymple, which is the pr chiefs name, and
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then Daniel schneiderob what was it. Women were saying they've
been sexually harassed hundreds of times, and the league has
not done anything about that, in fact, didn't even want
a written report. That doesn't mean what Watson's done is okay,
But there is a line rob in the personal Conduct
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Policy for the league that says this ownership and club
or league management have traditionally been held to a higher
standard and will be subject to more significant discipline when
violations of the Personal Conduct Policy occur. So they're saying,
the Players Association is gonna say, okay, how are you?
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You don't punish these owners for something that's in the
same And none of that seems as bad as we
watching it, but it's still you know, it's certainly not
a good look, and it certainly violates your personal conduct.
But you're gonna get sick this guy out for a
year when you said owners will be held to a
higher standard. And that's interesting, Rob, especially when you bring
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in and they might do it. And this don't feel
good to me. The racial dynamic three white owners and
the league doesn't really do anything about these sexual harassment
issues with them, But the black player, and you throw
the book at him, so to speak, with a year
long as he's mentioned, it's gonna be interesting if they
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go that route. Well, I think the NFL has a
strong case from this damnpoint that they forced Jerry Richardson
to sell his team after sexual about these three though
I'm not making an excuse, but they did. He was
forced to sell, and so they will make the argument
that when there was set including sexual harassment uh in
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the workplace, the league did force him the sell, remember
Jerry whatever Richardson. Though I'm not the recent ones. I'm
just saying, like if I'm if I'm the defense, I'm
not like okay, I'm like, okay, fine, what about these guys? Right?
But but to say but to say that they've never
done it or the owner's skate is not true. What
I'm saying, well, why haven't they done anything to those guys.
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I don't know why, because I think it's bs. But
I'm just saying they could say, we have disciplined people
when it's reached a certain thing. And in Jerry Richardson's case,
it was alleged, right, sexual harassment of women at the workplace.
So I think that they look Daniel Snyder has been
accused of I'm their workplace, I should say not him. Yeah,
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I'm just saying, it's not like they haven't done it.
And that was even when Jerry Richardson was the first
former player to own a team, I think, and he
was one of those old guards Chris and they got
him out of there like a sap. So I don't know,
I'm weird. I would say that some of the owners
have gotten away, but I don't think that's gonna stop
them from punishing Deshaun Watson. And they're gonna say this,
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I would not really want if he if it looks
like he's guilty, I would still want him to be punished.
I would in an ideal world, the league would also
do something with these owners, and we know it's not
gonna be equal to what Watson gets, but something. But
I'll admit it wouldn't feel good that if based on this,
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like say, you know, this is their defense and an
independent judge says, you know what, you're right, he's not
suspended at all. I wouldn't feel good about that if
it looks like he did it. But I'd rather them
give all of these people owners player in this case
Deshaun Watson, who have who have done things like this.
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If it's true, then they all get off scott free.
And Jim earth Say was suspended by the NFL for
six games and find five hundred thousand dollars when he
was involved in that DWI arrest. So he did get
suspend it for six games and had a five hundred
thousand dollars fine violating the league's personnel can conduct UH policy.
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So Ursy did. The one is Robert Kraft and him
and well commissioner. They didn't look into the Cowboys with
Jerry Jones with that pr guy sore. But there have
been some owners who have been suspended and fine or whatever.
So it will be interesting. And here's the other part, Chris,
I just think the players union it sounds good. They're
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very weak. I just don't think they're gonna do that.
What are they gonna do. They're gonna threaten the NFL
or we're not gonna put that. They're not gonna do
anything in the NFL. You this, it goes to an
independent you know council, right, it won't. It's not like
the NFL's decision anymore, you know, by itself so I
hear you though they are a weak union, but you know,
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we see if they're But I think that's interesting, Rod,
because I think there is some truth to that. I mean,
we've seen guys. You didn't want I have to just skate,
but he did so No, I'm not think what he
did was what necessarily the equivalent of Watson. But still,
all right, we assault is one of those things that
that that's like the Trevor Bauer thing. As strong as
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the Baseball Union is, Chris, they had to sign off
on a two year suspension to Trevor Bauer, right, I mean,
you you're know how strong baseball union is. A neighbor like, dude,
there's nothing we can do for you. We can't help you.
Eight seven seven nine ninety six, sixty three sixty nine.
How would you feel about a year long suspension for
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h Deshaun Watson? Do you think that would be fair?
And what do you think of this defense that the
players reportedly may go to, which is what about Robert Kraft,
Jerry Jones, Daniel Schneider. You're turning away with the eye
a couple of Chris and Robb Fox Sports Radio eight
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seven seven nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine. What
would you think of a year long suspension for Deshaun Watson,
particularly in light of this report that the Players Association
will defend him by saying, Hey, what about Robert Kraft
and Daniel Snyder and Jerry Jones and the Cowboys? So
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your thoughts? Uh? Frankie in Redding, California, you're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What up, Frankie? Hey?
What's going on? Guys? Love you? What's up? Man? Thank you? Hey?
I mean Ridley guys suspended for one year right for
gambling and Deshaun Watson. It's all over the wall. I
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mean even if he's that's just too much. Yeah, it's
too much, right, that's that's obviously we know the gambling.
You know, we know that the league obviously is gonna
come down hard on anything like that. Um, but you
know that's a good point, Rob, That's interesting, No, no doubt.
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Thanks Frankie, appreciate the info. Jerome in South Carolina, you're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Rading? What up, Jerome? Well?
I grew up here, I was born to rich here.
A lot of the Primson people aren't shocked, man, they're
just like a tourist shock about this school thing. But
didn't you hear Trump? When you're a celebrity, they let
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you get away with it. And this is just one
more example. Man, Well you are shocked about this man,
So you're down there control let's that's I'm glad you're
so you're down there in that area. We Robin and
I have talked about it. His reputation and image was
not just oh he's he's never been in trouble. It
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was he is gone. He goes above and beyond and
is a great young man. So I can imagine how
you guys are just stunned, because because when you hear
you know, right, do you know, are some people like
huh we kind of knew? Or is everybody just completely
like what like we had no idea or we don't
believe it? Or what? Hey? Look all you can't look
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down the way. This is real. They got air to
do something because they'll go have to do something, no doubt.
All right, Jerome, Thanks, We appreciate you a latif in Seattle,
you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio? What up? Yeah?
What are you guys? Fan of the show. Thank I'm
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I'm kind of an agreement where uh kind of maybe
the year and then maybe give um eight games because
you gotta remember a seventeen game now. And the issue
all is him seeking out these women's right, That's kind
of part of the behavior and the fact that it's
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sixty so after smoking them the fire, and I think
he's just taken to all. I mean, you get paid
sixty million a year and you're just waiting. You ain't
got learn, Yeah, but you don't get get other things.
I get it. You don't want to. You don't want
it to be a rush to judgment, so you gotta
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take your time. And Chris we said it, Look how
long baseball took with Bauer, Trevor Bauer, remember up to
extended way way way way, And let's keep it real too.
There these leagues too, they look at public opinion too.
They're taking the temperature, you know what I mean. In
addition to investigating, they're also kind of seeing how things
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play out, what are fans thinking, what are women thinking,
and all of that too. So I think that's why
some of the delay as well. We got Carrie Kittles
and been too. Two NBA finals are man Carrie kittles. Carry.
What's up, brothers, what's happening? How are you good? I
refreshed my men. Did you pick Boston? I did not?
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So I I won. The first bet that we had
was which was the Celtics against I want to see
the heat? Or was it against the Buck? I think it?
His next was that you won that? Okay, okay? And
then the second one I lost. And if I had
the Celtics coming out, oh you did have this. You
had the Celtics beating Golden stated, So how surprised are
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you at two? One the Golden State one? But two?
I mean, we saw the Celtics make Durant struggle badly,
give Yanni's problems. I mean, yann has put up numbers obviously. Uh.
And then to see Steph Curry shoot forty nine overall,
forty five from forty two from three thirty one points,
you know, like, how surprised are you that he played
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so well offensively against them and that they beat them
in overall? I'm a bit surprised because you know, although
Steph Curry is as an excellent player off the dribble
as well, he really excels um and mismatches and the
and the Celtics were doing so much switching, and Marcus
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Smart didn't get as much as I wanted to see
airtime guarding him one on one. It was Steph Curry again,
Grant Williams, it was Steph Curry against Tatum. It was
Steph Curry against Al Harford. That that really favored the Warriors,
and he really exposed the defensive schemes. And but look,
hats off the Curry. He's an excellent player and he
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showed up big when his team needed him to. What
about Jason Tatum, we can't say the same. I mean
people were already ready to put him ahead of Kevin
Durant earlier in the playoffs, which was premature, and he
didn't play well in the finals. I mean what happened.
What happened was Andrew Wiggins. I think that's the that's
the key. Mean, when he saw what he did and
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how he really challenge done in the in the in
the Western Conference finals. And he's got great lateral movement,
he contest shots really well. He's long, and he has
an he has a knack for keeping guys in front
of him, and he really challenged Tatum. I mean only
average twenty one points in the finals, shot thirty six
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percent from the field. He shot well from three, but
from the field thirty percent for a guy who was
dominant in the postseason. We did not see that from
Tatum at all. And that's all Andrew Wiggins. But hey, listen, guys,
Andrew Wiggins quote after Game five to me was the
quote and he said, he said, they have a winning culture.
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They put you in the position to succeed. They always
bring out the best in you. Very supportive, and I
think that that quote resonated with me more than anything
in the postseason. Having this organization do what they've done
the last seven eight years, building that culture, Steve Kerr
and cast allowing Wiggins to perform the way he's performed
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since he's been in that organization. I mean, he really
looked like a younger Igordalla out there right when he
won Finals MVP, playing both sides of the ball and
just impacting the game. That's all culture, well carry. I
loved the trade for Wiggins from the get go. A
lot of people didn't like it. I loved it because
I felt like, this dude is a really landed player.
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But I felt like he didn't want in Minnesota average
twenty points a game, but like he was one of
those guys it didn't really want the responsibility of having
to get you twenty five a night. And obviously in
Golden State he doesn't. After we can just go out
there defend. You know, if he gives you twenty, it's
it's gravy. I think they're you know, I've covered the
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league obviously for almost three decades. I feel like there've
been players like that in the league. But you're a player,
do you know that there were a lot of guys
and are a lot of guys that are like that,
Like they just don't want that burden. They might have
the talent, but they don't want that burden of every
night I gotta put the team on my back and
give them twenty five points and I really don't want that. Yeah,
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I think you're right. There's a lot of players that,
you know, once you get that sucking contract and you're
financially set, then it's like, okay, if you if you're
the guy that has to, you know, shoulder the load
every night, it wears you out. Give it four years,
five years, you know, like Lebron was in Cleveland seven years, Max,
and you just out there score all the points. This
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gets old man. Having a team that has other great
players takes the pressure off you to allows you to
sell into your role. However, listen, that team has gotten
the most out of him. I mean his effort defensively
and this postseason was incredible. Credit Raymond Green and the
rest of those guys for building that culture and this
the pressure with him just saying I can just be
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me in this organization, and wow, it speaks to what
teams should be striving to build more of and emphasize
more of its culture. And speaking of Draymond Green, you know,
finally turned down the volume and played a little bit.
I mean, I don't have anything. It just seemed like
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it was too loud about Draymond and the podcast and
all that, and people should have a voice and could
do that stuff. But it can't get in the way
of playing basket coball, can it? No? No, not not
in the NBA finals. We haven't seen any player, right
have that podium like that in the NBA Finals and
that microphone, that megaphone, baby, all right, and to still
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go out there and perform. We haven't seen that before,
and so I think it was wise of him the
last week or so, the criticism was there. I'm sure
he saw a little bit of heat. His performance was
very subpar at best, and he quiet down the last
five days and he performed well. I mean, I don't
know if that really go hand in hand, but I
think it worked in his favor. Hopefully a lesson learned
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for Daymond Green. See, I'm with you. I think I
think so. I think somebody got to him and said, dude,
just tone it down a little bit. Okay, we don't
don't need to do that. Carry There's been a lot
to talk about, you know, what this championship means for Durant.
And when Durant went to Golden State, he has said
he wanted to play selfless basketball. He liked, you know,
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a complete game. The way they moved the ball, the
players saw on him. So forth. Brooklyn is heavy ICEO,
and so even with Durant and Kate and Kyrie as
great as they are, they obviously were fairly easy. I
should say, you know, that's an overstatement, but you know,
easier for Boston to stop. Yeah. Do you think that
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the Nets need to incorporate more player movement, ball movement,
things like that, or do you see them just kind
of going with the same old thing and being like,
we got two superstars and now we're gonna have Ben
Simmons who's a great passer and defender, and we'll be
able to win that way. Yeah, I think that's a
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struggle right in today's game is it's to get teams
and to get great players to buy into moving right.
This game has now changed. You may be a great
one on one player, but if you're not moving without
the ball in today's game, you're not like and I
see a lot of players struggling with that offensively right
when the balls in their hands are great, but one
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it's not. They're just standing around watching that action. And
you're right, great defensive teams key in on you. I mean,
I was at the Mavericks game in Brooklyn this year
and Jason Kidd was like, I know Kylee wasn't out there,
but Katie was out there, and he's like, you're not
doing this by yourself. You have to. And so you're
seeing great defensive teams do that, and you have to
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move without the ball that the ball has to move,
players have to move, and the nets have to really
look at that at their style of player offensively and
say hey, can we get more player movement like that?
Easier buckets, harder us out when you're switching. Now, we
take advance of mismatches that all bleeds into a winning,
successful culture that we've seen the Warriors build up now
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and it's now on all the pilot guys. Who can
stop an organization that has that kind of continuity that's
just built into what they do. All right? That's our man,
carry kids, great stuff and great season with us year. Yeah,
and I'm gonna get you up right now that you
know to see this is over. We can go get
that that meal. I owe you that same dinner. I think. Alright, alright,
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you fly out to LA and I'll get you your meal.
So I'm just saying, you gotta buy a ticket for
ticket Rob's meal. All right, brother, keep it like a
couple of five sports radio, all right, This is the
a couple of Christian robe wrapping up a funky flashback Friday.
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Rob kicking it in Chicago this weekend going to a
Cubs game. I will be with my daughter and wife
and mother in law and a family friend. One of
my daughters. One of them won't be to make it
but we're going out robe day. Yep, Father's Day. We
go to church um in the morning and then go
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to a brunch afterwards. So I'm looking forward to that. Yeah,
I'm looking forward to that. They buy you a Father's
Day gift. They buy you a boxes, three pairs of
socks and some rush on. You know. I'm trying to
remember if they they. I think the three of them
get me a gift. Um. I always joking him, I say, look,
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don't each of you don't spend more. Remember, don't spend
more than two hundred and fifty dollars on me for
my Father's They get too fulways laugh, right, don't worry.
Don't worry about that, right too much. I don't know
if they I'm trying. I can't remember the last few years,
but I think they, my wife and them would usually
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come bin and get me a gift. I'm gonna say
this real quick, and I don't want to get to melancholy,
but I think it's important, um to make sure if
you have any kind of riff with your dad, or
you haven't talked to them, or you need to pick
up the phone, and because you just don't know, and
I'm I'm having a riff with my dad. But I
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was working. I was covering the Red's game, Red's Phillies
in Philadelphia, and I was real busy, and it was
Father's Day, was you know day, Chris, and and I'm
on my way to the next city, and I'm like
rushing through, you know, just trying to get my work
done and move on. And it's starting to get late,
and I remember I stopped everything and I picked up
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the phone and I called him and we talked and
I wished him happy Father's Day. Blah blah blah blah blah.
He was dead the next week and now he's sick.
Did you know. I'm just nah, it was it was
the right and and my point is that I probably
would have been sick that I didn't call him, you
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know what I mean, because you know, everybody gets busy,
and yeah, we hadn't talked, you know what I mean,
like on a regular basis, but we had talked. But
it always sticks with me because it was Father's Day
and I made sure I called him, and then to
lose him. So that's why I want to pass that
out to everybody. Make sure you pick up that phone,
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even if you maybe Chris have a little rial for
you know, like a disagreement. You just don't know. Nah, man, Look,
family is more important, like my my priorities in life,
a god, family, career, and so I would definitely recommend
that advice you gave to anybody. My parents are living
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with me now, you know, my father and my mother,
and I gotta be honest, man, I've enjoyed it, you know,
and it's like and I definitely can see my parents
enjoy it. But yeah, and I thought about, like, you know,
in the old days, if you I mean, but way
before us, you know, people kind of grew old and
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the family was around you know what I mean, and
you're you grow old, but you're around your kids, your grandkids,
so on and so forth. And now it's different because
you know, people are moving around. We moved around a
lot when I was a kid, you know that. That's
why I'm from so many places. And now you know,
my parents were living in Cleveland. I I'm living in Jersey.
My brother lives in Detroit and so or near Detroit,
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and so we're all in different places. A lot of
my families in Louisiana. So it's been nice because they're
you know they're older, and they're around us, and they're
around their grandkids and my dad and now are watching
playoff games together and right, so I got be honest.
I've enjoyed it. It's not a burden. And um, and
I can see that they've enjoyed it too. Um. I
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joke with him, I'm like, you know, see, y'all, if
you were in Cleveland, you just be sitting around, sitting
there watching TV all day, and now you can be
here sitting around watching TV all day. Right, you're right, right,
But you're right, Rob, that's a good word. Yeah, you know,
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so you're right. If you got the issues with your
dad or something, pick up the five squat, squash your
ego inside if if or you know, even if, yeah,
just put it aside and squash it and have a
great father. That's what Happy Father's Day, Chris and everybody
else out there, a happy father's day. I've been practicing
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T time. I just haven't gotten there yet. But I
how much practice you're getting. But I'll go with your story.
Take time to be a dad today.
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