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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And welcome to Cindy Stompo Toughest Nails on WBZ. So
who is in the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
With us today, Christy Cashman and Christy Yes, say hello everybody, Hey, everybody,
and I am go ahead, I'm Christy Cashman.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Okay, who is Christy Cashman?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Who are I'm still trying to figure that out. So
I want to that's we all, aren't we? Uh? Well,
I mean, most recently, I've been wearing the author's hat,
which has been kind of interesting. I wrote a novel
that's gotten some pretty good reviews, and I've traveled around
promoting it, which has been fun. I realized that, you know,
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writing the novel, it took me a while. It took
me like nine years, I think I mentioned when we
were together, and I wasn't writing the whole time. I mean,
I'd put it down for long stretches of time and
went back to it. And I realized that's kind of
my process, Like I have to let life happen a
little bit and then go back to the creative process
of writing and then feel invigorated all over again. So
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I'm not one of those people that just gets in
the zone and stays in the zone. Maybe it's maybe
it's a d D. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Maybe we all have a little bit of that.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
A little bit. Yeah, but I do find that now
with my second book, that I'm realizing the same thing.
And you know that that's just kind of how I
like to work. And I guess, you know, going back
to who is Christy Cashman?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Besides being a very kind person with a very good reputation, And.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I don't know who you're talking to.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I do my homework and she does the whole house
up at Halloween?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Is that the well that's hard to get out of?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah? Have you stopped doing that? Your neighbors might go
bocus because they love that.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Oh I think they would expect that, Like, even if
I did die, it'd be like, I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Sorry, Christy's dead, But why is the house set up? Okay,
we wait for this every year. But coming from you've
been married to Jay for how long? Jay Cashman?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Oh my gosh, we've been married. Can you believe it?
Like twenty We were married in ninety nine, so twenty
six years.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Twenty six years. And Jay's have the equipment guy, Yeah,
in the construction industry.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, lots of He's branched out to a lot of
different things. I mean, he he know he does, but
that was his starting play, Yeah for sure. Yeah, you
know that from right, from back way back in the day.
So now Chris, he's married to Jay. Jay's got a
big name in Boston. Now you have to cove out
who you are, your identity.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Where do you think you started to do that in
your marriage when you decided Okay, yeah, I'm Jay's wife,
but I also want to be who I am.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
That's a that's a cool question because I think maybe
growing up in my family of ten people, I'm the
ninth of ten's five girls and five boys.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I think I just want to know what that's like.
Hold on, we got to go. We've got we're going
off by ninety five. Remember the question.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
We're doing tangential?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yes, right, Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna go right and left.
Here we're gonna zig and zag. You cover from a
family of how many children? Ten?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I'm the ninth of ten, five girls, five boys.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Do you all get along? Actually?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean it was the holidays,
like you are, some little you know, little scuffles every
once in a while where somebody pisses somebody off, but
we all we all get back together. We eventually get
over it, you know. And then I haven't beaten anyone
up in a while.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And you and these ten kids grew up were we.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
So we were in Ohio at first and then moved
to North Carolina when I was seven. My dad probably
kind of went through like a midlife crisis thing, wanted
to get out of Ohio. So I think as he
was driving to Florida, where I think he thought we
would end up, they were driving through the smoky mountains
in North Carolina, actually smoking mountains, Blue Ridge Mountains, and
ended up he fell in love with it. That area
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there right outside of Asheville, right where you remember when
Hurricane Helena, Yes, about nine, that's right in that area,
and it's called Brevard. I went to Brevard High School,
actually started going to my mother's private Christian school that
she started in our church.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Uh uh you go stay where they go. Bless your
heart to yeah being a mass Yeah yeah, Wait a minute,
how did.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That work out for you? Bless your heart to you?
Yeah exactly. They're both endearments. Actually, bless your heart can be.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Your So basically the truth is that. But when we
say that, like you, we like say with passion here right?
If I hear bless your heart, I'm like, is that
as tough as you can sound?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
But what do you really mean?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
By? How did you end up here in Boston? Well,
i'd lived after I left North Carolina my mom died.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Actually, I went out to California and lived with my
sister for about a year and a half. She had
four kids at the time. I lived with her and I,
you know, I was pretty young, I was like nineteen,
and then went to New York after that because I
had been I'd gone to one of those modeling conventions,
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you know, and at the time I had interest from
a tiny little agency in New York and a tiny
little agency in in in nowhere was it? What's the
big in Germany?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I don't know any anyhow, she said, come to an
event with me at Jane steam was House, California. Yeah, yeah,
that's not happening for you because I don't like to fly.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
She won't go anywhere by Florida.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
You could uber, yeah, Ober all the way.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
To she would do that. You would do that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So you started and then somehow you ended up here.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
So then I ended up here. So yeah, long story short,
ended up meeting Jay when I was in New York
for the second time and he and somebody a mutual
friend had invited me to a party that he was
having on a yacht, and so I went, who wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Right right, you're going on there?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I met, I met him and uh and we started dating,
you know, shortly after that, and then you married Jay
and then you became and then we got married jaj Cashman. Yeah,
and then what you the question was was how did
you carve out time? How did you carve out kind
of who you are with jabing this big figure person
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figure in this area. And I do think it starts
with carving out who I was As a kid. I
it was like there was your own real estate. Like
I had a sister who was a ballerina, a sister
who was a piano player, you know, and so my thing,
my real estate was going to be horses. I was
going to be the horse girl, you know. And and
I remember feeling that way, like thinking, this is this
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is what my thing is going to be. And I
think in some ways maybe that carried over into my
adulthood and you know, being surrounded by people who were, uh,
you know, loud and loud.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, that's that's bossed then, okay.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
And and that kind of big, big deals, big deals
in their own right, because in a household, you know,
you're nothing compared to my brother Steve. If I can,
if I can, like you know, carve out my real
estate with my brother Steve, I can certainly carve out
my real estate with my husband. In some ways, that's
true because when you're little and no one's listening to you,
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and you would be invisible if you didn't speak up
for yourself. It's kind of the same thing. You know,
you have to.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Kid's going to fight in a family? Are they always
fighting for attention? Is every kid fighting for the attention?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
There was maybe a little bit of that. We were
just mainly trying to stay out of trouble because my
dad was had had a temper. My dad was like,
you know, he wasn't anybody to you know, joke around. Well,
you never knew if he was going to joke or
get out the paddle that was the Oh so he
was a pedal, Yeah he was oh yeah, oh my gosh.
So you kept your You were just trying to stay
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out of the way of the parents.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
What does that meme? Doesn't mean? That says that if
you have siblings, you're naturally built for negotiations, like from
the beginning of time.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I don't know, but we'll all have to hold that
thought because we're going to break. You're listening to Ciddy
Stumpo tapest Nails on WBZ and we'll be right back
and welcome back to tapest Nails on WBZ News Radio.
And I'm here with.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Who Sammy, Sammy?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Who?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Stumpo?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Do you have a name?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I just said my name, Well, only if you can
spell it. I'll say my full name, Samantha, Francesca's Stumpo.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Can we have any more vowels than that name?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Nope, But I'm still Jewish.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It took a four year till what fourth grade to.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
That was your fault. You can still she still can't
spell my middle.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Name, Francesca. My two favorite names was Samantha, Samantha or Francesca.
And I figured, Okay, if I don't get another girl,
I want to Sammy and a Frankie. If I didn't
get another girl, then I might as well just utilize
it in one right And if I got another girl,
I would name her Frankie and not. The middle name
is Samantha. Yes she. I have two kids, one is
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Catholic and one is Jewish. Right, you can't make this up?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So I'm half and half. Their father is all Italian,
and Sammy's.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Na says I'm more Italian Jewish, but I say I'm Jewish.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The only real Jewish press whole family is my mother,
not you. Oh yes, yes, she's the only one that's
one hundred percent of anything of this feeling. Cordy Ancestry
ninety nine point nine. Yeah, okay, So go ahead to
see the play. I just saw Kimberly a Kimbo. It's
so good last night. I watched it at the Colonial Theater.
That's Michael Max was working that it's so good. What
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was so good about that play?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Well, the writing is phenomenal, the the acting is great,
the lyrics of the music is makes you laugh. I
mean there, you know that's it's a deep subject matter.
And then but layered in is a lot of humor
and funny stuff and just sort of the very defunct
family stuff that's happened.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I loved the movement Nicole Kidman when they're trying to
figure out who murdered.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
The perfect couple.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
The perfect couple.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Oh yeah, they shot that right across from my house
on the Cape they did.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Huh yeah, so that would be like, that's very I
like them.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Totally well, totally different than Kimberly Caimbo, but yes, I
like the way your brain works. But yeah, it's hard
to follow that. She's hard to follow.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I'm very Yeah, I'm having to be one step ahead
to know where she's going.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
A Kimbo and she's like the perfect couple. I'm like, okay,
that that just went left.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Left because again we're right. When you're on radio, like
if you're just living so boring, people go like this,
oh god, I get to the punchline here, Cindy, let
me have some personality here, right. That's when I said
you when I was on TV, it was easier because
you're seeing me. You're seeing me look at my guys
like huh what yeah, what you lunatic. Okay, so we
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know that you have grown up. You've had ten siblings,
nine siblings. Poor mom, she was pregnant her whole life,
her whole life.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
She had ten kids in sixteen years. Yeah, and you
have how many two?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Two? Boys, and you didn't want ten? No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I didn't think I was cut out for ten.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't really heard that anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
No, I thought I was only having one, and then
seven years later the other one came along. I'm like
this all over again. How this happen? Oh yeah, I
know how this happened. Shoot, I remember how that happened.
Uh huh. But it was just Sammy and I.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
So you have two kids, and what do they and
a grandson and a grandson.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I know you have a grandson. Yeah, and I see him.
You put him on your social lot.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, he's he's up there quite a bit. Is that
he's just too cute? That's my older son's baby with
his girlfriend Carly. Okay, partner, I guess I should say,
why do you say partner?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Now? What? I don't know because everybody you said you
got engaged, you didn't like that word partner?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Should I say partner? If I say partner, I'm a builder,
I sound like I'm gay. It's not a magasize. Nothing
works for me. If I was not whatever a builder,
it's an automatic. I mean you saw on top his
nails on AHT.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, this partner partner just came up, probably because that's
what other people say that. It doesn't feel right to
me either. No girlfriend, girls and girlfriend. Yeah, but I
still call her my daughter in law because that's how
I introduced.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
That's okay, right, Yeah, I just say raise my husband already. Yeah,
even though I'm the runaway bride.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
This point.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh, get orried this summer. Okay, So two kids, what
do they do?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
My older one started a business and claims so I
think I was telling you a little bit about it.
He uh, he finds lost assets for people, and he
found this business over TikTok.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
During COVID to look me up. There's a lot of
that out there.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Oh yeah, I will.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's just pain in the neck to fill all that crap.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
So he does that for people, and he's done extraordinarily well.
It's like, it's kind of amazing. I think when Jay finally,
you know, analyzed what he was doing and what he
had accomplished, he was he was like, yeah, it's it's
a great business. I mean, he's he's done very well
for himself.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's cool.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I think it'll probably lead to other things, but.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Whatever, it's something right now, right, Yeah, they get starts
somewhere Yeah, obviously he doesn't want to get into construction
and do any of that, right.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
He might, who knows, maybe it'll lead to that. I'm
not sure. He's you know, he's young. He's only twenty four,
My younger one is and he just finished his third
year at Nichols, So he wants to get into business.
Nichols is a small business school, and he also is
doing his first jiu jitsu competition or whatever it is,
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a tournament on May seventeenth, so he's seriously.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Look, some kids want to get right into their father's business,
and yeah, kids don't. Sammy loves my business. She came right.
It took it to like twenty eight to get in,
and my son's thirty one. He does the wh part
of it. Yeah, he hates it.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But if the other kid wants to come work with me,
all his friends want to come work with her, right,
But the kid that you give birth to wants nothing
to do with it, right. I think.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I think guys in particular really want to like carve
out their own plot, even if they end up going
into the family business. I think for their own identity
or their own whatever, it is, their own pride that
they have maybe you know, they want.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I also their own thing as women are climbing the
lad of success. And I've been on here for thirty
seven years. Yeah, and there wasn't a lot of women
doing when I don't know if there was any, to
be perfectly honest, right, first woman to get my GC
license in Massachusetts. So but I think for a boy
having a mother there, it's more acceptable for you know,
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oh my dad, don't you know what I mean? So, yes,
I got to see where time's going to go with boys.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It'd be funny if your son wants opened a salon
or something exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
So we don't care. We don't care.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I don't like. I just want him to be healthy.
That's just mentally healthy.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Absolutely, that's all we want.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, that's it. The rest of it. Go be I
to go be an uber driver, like just be happy, sure,
be happy, right, that's just just content. I don't know
is anybody really happy? She is? She's in eries, they're
all happy. Good for you, Oh Jayson Aries, yeah Aries men.
Oh don't put those two. Oh my god. I can
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only imagine him and Billing the same room together. Who's
got the biggest right?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Like, is he March or April April fourth he's like
square in the middle of Aries. I think, what do
you I'm May fourteenth, I'm a tourist, taurists.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
She's a sign guru. Over there are your children.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Quinn is Taurus and Jay Michael is.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
January end of January.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So that what is that? That's Aquarius Quarius? Yeah, so
both smart.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Your tours is more stubborn than you're. Aquarius.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Which one's the girl?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Boy? Lucky you who the older one or younger ones?
Started the business?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
The older one? Yeah, so you didn't get a daughter.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
That Aquarius wants his own money.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
That's the thing that's okay, you'll be close to one
of your daughter wants does want his own money? Yeah,
he totally wants his own money. Yeah, because they want
their independency.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Quaries and Capricorn are very like that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And her personality.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
She lets everyone think that they're winning, but she's controlling everybody.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I wish maybe it is maybe, maybe it just is.
So the second book that you're working on, right, No,
I have I have another question before I ask you that.
My question is this, when you decided you want to
write your first book? Now, I have a very successful husband. Right,
So you're not doing this because you need the money
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or because you want this for you correct? Right? So
was he your best cheerleader to say, what do you
want to do? Christy, like, if that's what you want
to go.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, he's been very supportive from the very beginning. I
mean in the beginning, I was I thought I was
getting I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Get into film and act and you know, direct.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Or produced or whatever. And I did a little bit,
you know, I I worked on some things that you know,
I hope you never see. But but it was what mean,
you come out of a swamp, okay, I mean it
wasn't adult you know, it wasn't adult film or so
no one whatever hire me for that. No, it was
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you know, independent film back in the back in the
early two thousands and that kind of thing. And and I,
you know, I did try. I tried to you know,
produce a few things. And I think what I realized
is that I had my own creative voice as an author.
And it took a long time for me to even
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accept that. It took me a while, I think because
I didn't necessarily believe that I did. I think that
also I was late I didn't think I would want
to do the work because in some ways as a producer,
I thought, oh, I'll just acquire, you know, intellectual properties,
and and that will be my way of everybody.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh that thought. Guess what we could go to commercial.
I'm Sidney Stumpo and you listen Toughest Nails I WBZ
and welcome back to Toughest Nails. I'm Cindy Stumpo.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Sammy Stumpo, Christy Cashman.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You guys sure because you really didn't put any behind
that again, Let's try that again. I'm Cindy Stumpo.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I'm Sammy Stumpo, and I'm Christy.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Cash Thank you very much, ladies. Sheep is creepers. Okay,
where were we?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh well, what we should really do is we should
tell people to order my book The Truth about Horses
on Amazon or go to their local, oh you store.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
We're going to push that. Yeah, you know how we
push that? How do you push that? We pushed that.
We give you the last fifty second fact. Okay, good
to Lily push you up.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
We'll then cut this because okay ed radio.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
So okay, we're going to go back. So now you're
out there. You did your first book, and now you're
going to write another book. Yeah, you think that you
have a different way of doing this book. Are you
happy with your first book? Do you want to make
this book even better than your first book? Like what's
going on in your head right now? Because like what
I build, I want to make the next best album, right,
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I want to make the next best design, build the
next best. I'm always looking to the next best.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah that Yeah, I feel like this book was starting
to kind of percolate as I was finishing up my
last book.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
So I was getting like.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
The world and the characters and some of the themes
that I wanted to write about were already kind of
happening as I was finishing up my last book. And
that's always a good sign. It's almost like this, you know,
eagerness to continue your voice as a writer and to
you know, to show you're maybe not a one trick
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pony or something like that, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Because my wants to be a one hit one.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, exactly. So my you know, my first book was well,
I'm you asked me if I was proud of it.
I'm extremely proud of it. That's proud that I did it.
I'm proud that I took the time, even though at
times it was really really difficult, in the times I
wanted to give up. It's probably the best gift I
ever gave myself, you know, to take the time to
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do it. And and you know, I think that also,
I think it's great for my kids to see that,
you know, my kids to see that maybe it wasn't
something that was just going to please me by being
existing as you know, the wife of a whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Whatever. I'll make it easy for you whatever, right, whatever,
what I mean, like, your heart is very successful person
and people know him and he's got a lot of
respect out there.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I worked hard. No one handed him anything either.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, and he was extremely supportive and has been ever since.
And when I switched gears to to write, it was
kind of funny because I had to explain to him
that in the mornings when I'm working, I'm not you know,
I'm not just coloring in a coloring book. I'm actually
trying to think and and think of creative, creative ways
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of developing my plot and weaving in characters and subplots
and all of that, and and so you're kind of
you know, I was kind of deep in thought in
the mornings, and then Jay would blast in, good morning,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You know?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And I feel like I just kind of have to
be like please when I'm working, you know, just take
that into consideration that you know that maybe don't come
blasting and maybe test the waters a little peek in.
Don't because it just takes you right out of that work.
It was a learning he's he's still learning.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
He's still learning.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
How about you go in another path of the house and say,
I lo on the door and then we don't have
to work.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
And he wants her, wants her.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, I've done that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
He wants her. He wants her right as man.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And he's he was used to something for so long
and now she's changing it up. So he's like, how
do I change?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Right, Yeah, it don't change.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I can't. I don't change either.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And then he'd even even like try to pretend like
he was, you know, oh, hello, are you working? Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Are you working?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
No, I'm just sitting here.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
She's looking up by him like, oh, he's just never I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Just sitting here. But you may you just said something
you want to make your kids proud?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Right, absolutely, yes, So.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Don't I But the point is when do we do
it for ourselves? Well? I think I am, I really
think I am.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I really feel like this now this the writing has
fulfilled me in my career more than any anything else has.
You know, it's not the only thing that I look
for for fulfillment. And Christy come on, well, that people
understanding about life is that you can't just be fulfilled
by one person. You can't be fulfilled by one career,
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you can't be fulfilled by one hobby.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's a whole. You know. We're much more complicated than
see how many roles, how many hats you were out there? Okay,
your roles? You're an author, a producer, a philanthropist. I
mean you're going twenty four to seven, a grandmother, your grandmother, okay,
a wife, a mom, a wife. I'm right. We can
(23:23):
only stretch the band like this for the band breaks,
but you have a much going. Your personality is much
easier going than mine. And that's why probably you and
Jay work is because he's probably very high or strong,
and you're you know, you're easier going. I would have
to say that because theories man, just as the series
man were not strong and toorist.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
She can be pretty stepporn other things that she wants.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Oh, just ask Jay, Just ask Jay. Jay. We're gonna
ask you that. I'm bringing you in on the next one. Okay,
I'm interviewing Jay. But again we're we're in a lot
of hats. You've been married a long time, so sleep
guys are doing something right. You're both a beautiful couple.
Your kids are good looking. Your grandson he's a boy, right, Yeah,
(24:07):
he's beautiful. I watch on Instagram with you. But life's
not easy either, no, right, so we deal with the
struggles and being a mom. I don't care what anybody says.
It's the hardest job in the world.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You can go write twenty books and be the most
successful author, and I can be the most successful builder.
And the hottest job is still being a mom, no
matter what age you get to. By the way, yeah,
I think my grandmother said it best. I called her
one night to come over and Saidana, can you rub
my belly? And she come running right over. My grandmother, right,
very old fashioned grandmother. She's pregnant with me at the time,
(24:43):
pregnant with Samantha, and I was in my ninth month
and she just didn't want to come. She was fully slaved,
like she just wanted to stay there forever. I'm like, Nana,
I can't sleep and she's she's my Jewish grandmother. That said, Mama,
you sleep because the day this baby is born, you'll
never get a good night's sleep every day again. Do
you think that resonated with me? At twenty three years old?
I went like this, what are you talking about them again?
(25:04):
A good night? Say? Well, she was right about that one. Okay,
So being the moms is, I always say, the toughest
job in the world. It's easy to go to work.
I couldn't agree more. But I see here, what are
some of the biggest challenges teenagers face today? And how
does well you think you can help them navigate through this?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Oh? Are you talking about my my gentorship generally?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Oh? Well, because I'm telling you to ask that questions question.
I asked that question. The other questions I've been just
asking my own. I haven't followed anything, but right now,
got it? Okay?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Well, the thing is is that that's I created a
mentorship program for teenagers, you know, in order to be
able to find their creative voice in the arts. Whatever
it is in movie making and writing and illustrating that teenager. Yeah,
it's called you Think. And I started it in Ireland
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because I could because we have the property over there,
Kilkee Castle, and so you have that.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh my god, give me a should google that. It's
beautif Yeah, you guys should come visit. Okay, you couldn't
even get me to California. You want to get me
to Ireland just you know, just just.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Maybe I'm going to move somewhere far away. You have
to fly there.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
And I'll go knock myself out the Stark Club, knock
and then wake me up. No, I won't wait that either.
I know it's crazy to go ahead, but it's in Ireland.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Well, I started in Ireland and now I've done. Now
it's turned into sort of this exchange program where I
bring some kids from Ireland here and I have collaborated
with Epiphany School in Dorchester. You should have John a
Reverend John Finley on sometime and yeah, he's amazing, and
we collaborated and now I bring some of the kids
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from Epiphany School over there. I'm about to do that
the end of May. We're bringing I think six kids
over from.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Is it hot right now? To get them over here.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
No, no, no, I mean we've done it now. This
is like our third or fourth time of this exchange
program for the arts.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Do you know our best finished copprid just still come
out of Ireland? Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I believe it.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, best plasters out of Ireland, I believe it. There's
still you go to school in Ireland to learn how
to be a finished coppern Oh is that right? Yeah,
So that's why there's such skilled labor over there for
plastered city. You have castle, there's a castle it is it.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Was an actual fortress. A lot of a lot of
people say they live in castles, but they weren't actual fortresses.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
So what made you guys buy a castle in Ireland?
And how much time do you spend there?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Were there so much? Where they're like, you know, every
every couple of months or something, we go over for
five or ten days or so.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But it was because I started riding over there.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
When before I met Jay and I met this whole
group that I was riding with, I was living in
New York going to Pennsylvania on the weekends. Met a
group of people who would travel over there a couple
of times of year. A couple times of years to
do these equestrian trips, and so I was heading over
there when I met Jay. Jay basically invited himself along.
(28:15):
Of course he had been He had been in every
place but Ireland, and so he invited himself along.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Okay, hold that thought. I'm sitty stumble. We're going to
break okay, because I don't want to waste same more
time and welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBC News
Radio ten thirty and I have in the studio.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Sammy stumpa thank God, Christy Cashman.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
There we go see you guys to get to the
fourth segment. You have a big personality, okay, okait, I
love it. Go finish.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh yeah, uh so himself, Jane.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
That's why we have somebody here this Thurday.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Thank you eight right. Yeah, Jay invited himself. I thought
we were going back to nine kids. I thought we
were back to see Okay, Jane fighted himself along to Ireland.
I said, well, that's great, you can come, but I'm
going to be riding like all day. When you ride
over there, it's not just a few hours. You get
on the horse and you're gone all day from dust
(29:11):
till Dawn. I said, you know, I'm not sure, what
are you going to do? And he said, I'm going
to go look for a castle. And so then fast forward,
you know, twenty years and he bought Kilkee Castle.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So you you have horses at the castle.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Not on the property, but right outside. Have two horses
over there. Yeah, how much land is on that around
the property of the ca Well, it's got an eighteen
hole golf course and I think, I mean, we just
bought another plot, so I think we're over two hundred
acres there, So why would you have horses there too?
We should, We probably will eventually. It's just been you know,
it's like it's take it takes time to build it.
(29:52):
And we only started with build with renovating the original
building and then we renovated some of the So this
castle was built what year, Well, eleven eighty is its
original date, eleven eight but the building has changed. It
wasn't a wooden building initially and then eventually they they
(30:12):
built the huge you know, stone stone fortress.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, but I don't know what year that was. Yeah, God,
they have a ghost in there. There are ghosts, so yeah,
it's got to be for sure. Jay and I the
first night we were there, there was a ghost in
our arm or our arm war was shaking and there
was like this rattling thing. And then the next day
we went with uh Ronan Tynan, you know, the singer.
(30:36):
He said, well I can, I'll go get some holy water.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Well he shows Galen a gallon of holy water. I'm
telling like in a milk jug kind of holy work. Yeah,
we went and there's this mantra you say, like, you know,
if you're not you know, you're not welcome here. If
you're if you haven't settled things in your spirit or whatever,
you know, you're not welcome here. And so we asked
(31:00):
you to leave, but you're nice about it. And then yeah,
I think whatever spirits are there now are okay, they're
settled or they're nice.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
They're nice people. They're nice people.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
They're not shaking in here shaking.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
The n you ride all the time when you're here,
where you're riding Hamilton, My horses are in Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And Hamilton, Yeah that's where what else's horses up there?
Maybe Scott I Selembrino, I.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Think Ipswich or Hamilton or that's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
She was a rider. I was a rider. I quit.
I got kicked off that horse. I never got back on.
That horse was my horse, and it kicked me in
the knee and didn't let me back on. So I
was like, okay, I'm done with you, and I think
I ended up punching my tors in the face and
walked away because the horse took off.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Right, the horse, don't tell it.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
The horse took off after he kicked me, threw me off,
kicked me, and then you know what happened was because
my girlfriend Stacy was driving somebody else horse and she
didn't know how to drive the horse. So that horse
through horse whatever riding the horse, and then threw her off,
and then my horse chased the other horse right, So
it was never letting me back on.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Your horse was kind of yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah, he was so nice since I went from the
north Shore and we brought him.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
To Okay, like we moved, you felt the same way.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, we didn't like moving from the north Shore to
your horse was a cancer. My horse did like change.
So I was all done riding at that point. And
the smith, oh my god, she looks so beautiful at
this ship, like the perfect boots, the perfect I used
to go to Wellesley too. What was that?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And by all her riding and then she just said,
I don't want to do the anme one like really, no,
well they weren't. They didn't treat you very nicely.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Then I always rode a camp and then you brought
me and Brooke to go to Dana Hall.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yes you yeah, because they didn't know it was Jewish, right,
and then when they found out what they found out
your friend was and then.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's like they stuck their nose up.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
But I was like, no, oh my god, things were different.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
It was we were coven thirteen. So Sam's like, plus,
we weren't boarding there. They were boording there. But they
said to Sam they were very nice to Sam. The girls,
they just were nice to her friend. So Sam stuck
with her friends said, well, she's.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Not welcome here. I'm not welcome. I don't I'm not
staying here either. And I think that was the end
of your riding career. Yeah, that was it over? And
you have you ever been hurt by a horse?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I mean I've yeah, I've fallen, I've been kicked. I've
been you know sort of the what you go through.
But I mean i've fallen the horse has fallen a
lot with me. Weirdly Westerner English, both but mainly English.
Now when I rode, I rode Western as a kid
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more and then.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
When I because you could hold on that thing was
a safety, ye little safety in that thing. Very it's
your legs, the horn, the horn, it just but riding.
When you get out there and you ride, how free
do you feel? Oh?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
It's the It's the best feeling. I mean still to
this day. You know, if I'm having a bad day
and I go out and have even if I have
a bad ride, it makes.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
My day better.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
You know. Any any amount of sitting in the saddle
for me is you know, therapeutic and changes my perspective.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You know, you sometimes just need that thing that.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Takes you out of your life a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
And maybe that's yeah, because it's active. I'm holding all
my legs, I'm getting a workout and it's fast. Imagine
me in a golf course. Look surrounded by all golfers. Right,
I'm gonna chase a little golf ball around. That's not
gonna happen. I might just do that again. That could
be a great idea.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Let's do it. Come out to Halton with me.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Riding, right, because it's like you're free, but you still
have to keep your body strong. You have to keep
your body strong, you know that obviously, right, sure, yeah, yeah, exercise,
but you're moving and.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
The fresh air.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, it's the fresh air and and just you know.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
That's a rush.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It is a rush.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, yeah, a rush. And you can get that horse
to do what you want and be in the same
like synk with the horse.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Does Jake get nervous with you on the horse ever?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I don't think he does anymore. No, it's been I
mean it's you know, it's a long time of watching me.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Does he ride, Does the kids ride?
Speaker 4 (35:15):
They all know how. He knows how. He just you know,
kind of stopped doing it, you know, thirty years ago,
twenty years ago. The kids definitely know how. Actually, we
all did this trek in Australia maybe seven or eight
years ago, and we had the best time and we
were camping and did like, you know, this five day
(35:37):
trek in the snowy mountains. Remember that movie The Man
from Snowy Mountain.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
No, no, the Man from Snowy River.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Okay, it's all the you know, the horse is charging
down the mountain and everything like that. We in the
wild Brumbies. That's where we rode, so we're you know,
we saw all these wild horses.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
And do your kids ride?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
They know how. They're not like regular riders, but they
definitely know how. They're they're natural athletes, you know, they're.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Good now as a writer, like people always say to me, Cindy,
why don't you write a book in your life? I said,
because my life's not that exciting thing. You just so wrong.
It really is, right, I had.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
A colorful life just based on what I know. I
think you should wat a book.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
I was going to tell you, I think you should
write the book for Okay, So they say to me, oh,
AI can do it all for you, right, So how
much authors using AI now to help them?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
You know, that's a good question. I don't know. In
chat chat GBT, I think that it would be maybe
easier to use that if you were writing non fiction, possibly,
but writing fiction you're trying to get I think the
most important part of writing fiction is having a strong
(36:49):
voice that makes the reader want to turn the page.
And I don't, you know, I haven't. I don't know
enough about AI to know whether or not that it's
capable of giving kind of a heart and a soul
to a voice.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
If you're writing a bio on somebody, it's verat.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly or yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Now do young people still pick up books and read them?
When I say young, yeah, the next generation twenty because
in school you read books. But let's say twenty one,
twenty two to thirty two forty two, are they reading books?
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
I think a lot more maybe than we think, because
I notice a lot now when I'm flying, I'll notice
who's reading books versus who's on their phone or watching something,
or at the beach or where was I the other day?
And there was this young girl reading game Lord of
the Rings? Where was I was at the salon, at
(37:47):
the at the hair salon. She was probably, like I
was guessing, maybe like twenty five or something, and she
was reading as opposed to being on her phone. And
I think it's just a much more conscious choice, because
you know, the unconscious thing and the more habit forming
thing is to pick up your phone and look at
your phone and do all that. Reading is a little
bit more work, you know, there's more effort that you
(38:08):
put into it. But what you do on your brand.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Like this generation right there has the attention span of
a flea. I know I know how to get them
to sit there.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
And like you have to write a good book, you
have to write a good book, which I did.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I think I think your book's a great book. All
that that we're going to break. I'm Sindy Stunboney. Listen
to Toughest Nails on WBZ and welcome back to Toughest
Nails on WBZ and I'm here with me.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yeah, Christy Cashman.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Christy, how do people find your book?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Well, the best thing to do would be go to
your bookstore, your local bookstore, and ask them for it.
If they don't have it, they should order it. But
Amazon is obviously the easiest, and if you're lazy, go
to Amazon. But I like to promote the local bookstores.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And the name of the book again is.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Truth about Horses by Christy Cashman.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Perfect. Okay, everybody, have a great, safe weekend. This is
Cindy Stumpo tap his nails on WBZ and we will
see you next weekend.
And welcome to Cindy Stompo Toughest Nails on WBZ. So
who is in the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
With us today, Christy Cashman and Christy Yes, say hello everybody, Hey, everybody,
and I am go ahead, I'm Christy Cashman.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Okay, who is Christy Cashman?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Who are I'm still trying to figure that out. So
I want to that's we all, aren't we? Uh? Well,
I mean, most recently, I've been wearing the author's hat,
which has been kind of interesting. I wrote a novel
that's gotten some pretty good reviews, and I've traveled around
promoting it, which has been fun. I realized that, you know,
(00:38):
writing the novel, it took me a while. It took
me like nine years, I think I mentioned when we
were together, and I wasn't writing the whole time. I mean,
I'd put it down for long stretches of time and
went back to it. And I realized that's kind of
my process, Like I have to let life happen a
little bit and then go back to the creative process
of writing and then feel invigorated all over again. So
(01:01):
I'm not one of those people that just gets in
the zone and stays in the zone. Maybe it's maybe
it's a d D. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Maybe we all have a little bit of that.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
A little bit. Yeah, but I do find that now
with my second book, that I'm realizing the same thing.
And you know that that's just kind of how I
like to work. And I guess, you know, going back
to who is Christy Cashman?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Besides being a very kind person with a very good reputation, And.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I don't know who you're talking to.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I do my homework and she does the whole house
up at Halloween?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Is that the well that's hard to get out of?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah? Have you stopped doing that? Your neighbors might go
bocus because they love that.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Oh I think they would expect that, Like, even if
I did die, it'd be like, I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Sorry, Christy's dead, But why is the house set up? Okay,
we wait for this every year. But coming from you've
been married to Jay for how long? Jay Cashman?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Oh my gosh, we've been married. Can you believe it?
Like twenty We were married in ninety nine, so twenty
six years.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Twenty six years. And Jay's have the equipment guy, Yeah,
in the construction industry.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, lots of He's branched out to a lot of
different things. I mean, he he know he does, but
that was his starting play, Yeah for sure. Yeah, you
know that from right, from back way back in the day.
So now Chris, he's married to Jay. Jay's got a
big name in Boston. Now you have to cove out
who you are, your identity.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Where do you think you started to do that in
your marriage when you decided Okay, yeah, I'm Jay's wife,
but I also want to be who I am.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
That's a that's a cool question because I think maybe
growing up in my family of ten people, I'm the
ninth of ten's five girls and five boys.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I think I just want to know what that's like.
Hold on, we got to go. We've got we're going
off by ninety five. Remember the question.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
We're doing tangential?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yes, right, Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna go right and left.
Here we're gonna zig and zag. You cover from a
family of how many children? Ten?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I'm the ninth of ten, five girls, five boys.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Do you all get along? Actually?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean it was the holidays,
like you are, some little you know, little scuffles every
once in a while where somebody pisses somebody off, but
we all we all get back together. We eventually get
over it, you know. And then I haven't beaten anyone
up in a while.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And you and these ten kids grew up were we.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
So we were in Ohio at first and then moved
to North Carolina when I was seven. My dad probably
kind of went through like a midlife crisis thing, wanted
to get out of Ohio. So I think as he
was driving to Florida, where I think he thought we
would end up, they were driving through the smoky mountains
in North Carolina, actually smoking mountains, Blue Ridge Mountains, and
ended up he fell in love with it. That area
(03:50):
there right outside of Asheville, right where you remember when
Hurricane Helena, Yes, about nine, that's right in that area,
and it's called Brevard. I went to Brevard High School,
actually started going to my mother's private Christian school that
she started in our church.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Uh uh you go stay where they go. Bless your
heart to yeah being a mass Yeah yeah, Wait a minute,
how did.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That work out for you? Bless your heart to you?
Yeah exactly. They're both endearments. Actually, bless your heart can be.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Your So basically the truth is that. But when we
say that, like you, we like say with passion here right?
If I hear bless your heart, I'm like, is that
as tough as you can sound?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
But what do you really mean?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
By? How did you end up here in Boston? Well,
i'd lived after I left North Carolina my mom died.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Actually, I went out to California and lived with my
sister for about a year and a half. She had
four kids at the time. I lived with her and I,
you know, I was pretty young, I was like nineteen,
and then went to New York after that because I
had been I'd gone to one of those modeling conventions,
(05:10):
you know, and at the time I had interest from
a tiny little agency in New York and a tiny
little agency in in in nowhere was it? What's the
big in Germany?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I don't know any anyhow, she said, come to an
event with me at Jane steam was House, California. Yeah, yeah,
that's not happening for you because I don't like to fly.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
She won't go anywhere by Florida.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
You could uber, yeah, Ober all the way.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
To she would do that. You would do that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So you started and then somehow you ended up here.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
So then I ended up here. So yeah, long story short,
ended up meeting Jay when I was in New York
for the second time and he and somebody a mutual
friend had invited me to a party that he was
having on a yacht, and so I went, who wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Right right, you're going on there?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I met, I met him and uh and we started dating,
you know, shortly after that, and then you married Jay
and then you became and then we got married jaj Cashman. Yeah,
and then what you the question was was how did
you carve out time? How did you carve out kind
of who you are with jabing this big figure person
(06:26):
figure in this area. And I do think it starts
with carving out who I was As a kid. I
it was like there was your own real estate. Like
I had a sister who was a ballerina, a sister
who was a piano player, you know, and so my thing,
my real estate was going to be horses. I was
going to be the horse girl, you know. And and
I remember feeling that way, like thinking, this is this
(06:49):
is what my thing is going to be. And I
think in some ways maybe that carried over into my
adulthood and you know, being surrounded by people who were, uh,
you know, loud and loud.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, that's that's bossed then, okay.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
And and that kind of big, big deals, big deals
in their own right, because in a household, you know,
you're nothing compared to my brother Steve. If I can,
if I can, like you know, carve out my real
estate with my brother Steve, I can certainly carve out
my real estate with my husband. In some ways, that's
true because when you're little and no one's listening to you,
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and you would be invisible if you didn't speak up
for yourself. It's kind of the same thing. You know,
you have to.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Kid's going to fight in a family? Are they always
fighting for attention? Is every kid fighting for the attention?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
There was maybe a little bit of that. We were
just mainly trying to stay out of trouble because my
dad was had had a temper. My dad was like,
you know, he wasn't anybody to you know, joke around. Well,
you never knew if he was going to joke or
get out the paddle that was the Oh so he
was a pedal, Yeah he was oh yeah, oh my gosh.
So you kept your You were just trying to stay
(08:01):
out of the way of the parents.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
What does that meme? Doesn't mean? That says that if
you have siblings, you're naturally built for negotiations, like from
the beginning of time.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I don't know, but we'll all have to hold that
thought because we're going to break. You're listening to Ciddy
Stumpo tapest Nails on WBZ and we'll be right back
and welcome back to tapest Nails on WBZ News Radio.
And I'm here with.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Who Sammy, Sammy?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Who?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Stumpo?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Do you have a name?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I just said my name, Well, only if you can
spell it. I'll say my full name, Samantha, Francesca's Stumpo.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Can we have any more vowels than that name?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Nope, But I'm still Jewish.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It took a four year till what fourth grade to.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
That was your fault. You can still she still can't
spell my middle.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Name, Francesca. My two favorite names was Samantha, Samantha or Francesca.
And I figured, Okay, if I don't get another girl,
I want to Sammy and a Frankie. If I didn't
get another girl, then I might as well just utilize
it in one right And if I got another girl,
I would name her Frankie and not. The middle name
is Samantha. Yes she. I have two kids, one is
(09:01):
Catholic and one is Jewish. Right, you can't make this up?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So I'm half and half. Their father is all Italian,
and Sammy's.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Na says I'm more Italian Jewish, but I say I'm Jewish.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The only real Jewish press whole family is my mother,
not you. Oh yes, yes, she's the only one that's
one hundred percent of anything of this feeling. Cordy Ancestry
ninety nine point nine. Yeah, okay, So go ahead to
see the play. I just saw Kimberly a Kimbo. It's
so good last night. I watched it at the Colonial Theater.
That's Michael Max was working that it's so good. What
(09:37):
was so good about that play?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Well, the writing is phenomenal, the the acting is great,
the lyrics of the music is makes you laugh. I
mean there, you know that's it's a deep subject matter.
And then but layered in is a lot of humor
and funny stuff and just sort of the very defunct
family stuff that's happened.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I loved the movement Nicole Kidman when they're trying to
figure out who murdered.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
The perfect couple.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
The perfect couple.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Oh yeah, they shot that right across from my house
on the Cape they did.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Huh yeah, so that would be like, that's very I
like them.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Totally well, totally different than Kimberly Caimbo, but yes, I
like the way your brain works. But yeah, it's hard
to follow that. She's hard to follow.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I'm very Yeah, I'm having to be one step ahead
to know where she's going.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
A Kimbo and she's like the perfect couple. I'm like, okay,
that that just went left.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Left because again we're right. When you're on radio, like
if you're just living so boring, people go like this,
oh god, I get to the punchline here, Cindy, let
me have some personality here, right. That's when I said
you when I was on TV, it was easier because
you're seeing me. You're seeing me look at my guys
like huh what yeah, what you lunatic. Okay, so we
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know that you have grown up. You've had ten siblings,
nine siblings. Poor mom, she was pregnant her whole life,
her whole life.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
She had ten kids in sixteen years. Yeah, and you
have how many two?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Two? Boys, and you didn't want ten? No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I didn't think I was cut out for ten.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't really heard that anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
No, I thought I was only having one, and then
seven years later the other one came along. I'm like
this all over again. How this happen? Oh yeah, I
know how this happened. Shoot, I remember how that happened.
Uh huh. But it was just Sammy and I.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
So you have two kids, and what do they and
a grandson and a grandson.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I know you have a grandson. Yeah, and I see him.
You put him on your social lot.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, he's he's up there quite a bit. Is that
he's just too cute? That's my older son's baby with
his girlfriend Carly. Okay, partner, I guess I should say,
why do you say partner?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Now? What? I don't know because everybody you said you
got engaged, you didn't like that word partner?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Should I say partner? If I say partner, I'm a builder,
I sound like I'm gay. It's not a magasize. Nothing
works for me. If I was not whatever a builder,
it's an automatic. I mean you saw on top his
nails on AHT.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, this partner partner just came up, probably because that's
what other people say that. It doesn't feel right to
me either. No girlfriend, girls and girlfriend. Yeah, but I
still call her my daughter in law because that's how
I introduced.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
That's okay, right, Yeah, I just say raise my husband already. Yeah,
even though I'm the runaway bride.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
This point.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh, get orried this summer. Okay, So two kids, what
do they do?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
My older one started a business and claims so I
think I was telling you a little bit about it.
He uh, he finds lost assets for people, and he
found this business over TikTok.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
During COVID to look me up. There's a lot of
that out there.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Oh yeah, I will.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's just pain in the neck to fill all that crap.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
So he does that for people, and he's done extraordinarily well.
It's like, it's kind of amazing. I think when Jay finally,
you know, analyzed what he was doing and what he
had accomplished, he was he was like, yeah, it's it's
a great business. I mean, he's he's done very well
for himself.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's cool.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I think it'll probably lead to other things, but.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Whatever, it's something right now, right, Yeah, they get starts
somewhere Yeah, obviously he doesn't want to get into construction
and do any of that, right.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
He might, who knows, maybe it'll lead to that. I'm
not sure. He's you know, he's young. He's only twenty four,
My younger one is and he just finished his third
year at Nichols, So he wants to get into business.
Nichols is a small business school, and he also is
doing his first jiu jitsu competition or whatever it is,
(13:39):
a tournament on May seventeenth, so he's seriously.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Look, some kids want to get right into their father's business,
and yeah, kids don't. Sammy loves my business. She came right.
It took it to like twenty eight to get in,
and my son's thirty one. He does the wh part
of it. Yeah, he hates it.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But if the other kid wants to come work with me,
all his friends want to come work with her, right,
But the kid that you give birth to wants nothing
to do with it, right. I think.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I think guys in particular really want to like carve
out their own plot, even if they end up going
into the family business. I think for their own identity
or their own whatever, it is, their own pride that
they have maybe you know, they want.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I also their own thing as women are climbing the
lad of success. And I've been on here for thirty
seven years. Yeah, and there wasn't a lot of women
doing when I don't know if there was any, to
be perfectly honest, right, first woman to get my GC
license in Massachusetts. So but I think for a boy
having a mother there, it's more acceptable for you know,
(14:46):
oh my dad, don't you know what I mean? So, yes,
I got to see where time's going to go with boys.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It'd be funny if your son wants opened a salon
or something exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
So we don't care. We don't care.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I don't like. I just want him to be healthy.
That's just mentally healthy.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Absolutely, that's all we want.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, that's it. The rest of it. Go be I
to go be an uber driver, like just be happy, sure,
be happy, right, that's just just content. I don't know
is anybody really happy? She is? She's in eries, they're
all happy. Good for you, Oh Jayson Aries, yeah Aries men.
Oh don't put those two. Oh my god. I can
(15:22):
only imagine him and Billing the same room together. Who's
got the biggest right?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Like, is he March or April April fourth he's like
square in the middle of Aries. I think, what do
you I'm May fourteenth, I'm a tourist, taurists.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
She's a sign guru. Over there are your children.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Quinn is Taurus and Jay Michael is.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
January end of January.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So that what is that? That's Aquarius Quarius? Yeah, so
both smart.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Your tours is more stubborn than you're. Aquarius.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Which one's the girl?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Boy? Lucky you who the older one or younger ones?
Started the business?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
The older one? Yeah, so you didn't get a daughter.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
That Aquarius wants his own money.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
That's the thing that's okay, you'll be close to one
of your daughter wants does want his own money? Yeah,
he totally wants his own money. Yeah, because they want
their independency.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Quaries and Capricorn are very like that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And her personality.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
She lets everyone think that they're winning, but she's controlling everybody.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I wish maybe it is maybe, maybe it just is.
So the second book that you're working on, right, No,
I have I have another question before I ask you that.
My question is this, when you decided you want to
write your first book? Now, I have a very successful husband. Right,
So you're not doing this because you need the money
(16:50):
or because you want this for you correct? Right? So
was he your best cheerleader to say, what do you
want to do? Christy, like, if that's what you want
to go.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, he's been very supportive from the very beginning. I
mean in the beginning, I was I thought I was
getting I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Get into film and act and you know, direct.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Or produced or whatever. And I did a little bit,
you know, I I worked on some things that you know,
I hope you never see. But but it was what mean,
you come out of a swamp, okay, I mean it
wasn't adult you know, it wasn't adult film or so
no one whatever hire me for that. No, it was
(17:33):
you know, independent film back in the back in the
early two thousands and that kind of thing. And and I,
you know, I did try. I tried to you know,
produce a few things. And I think what I realized
is that I had my own creative voice as an author.
And it took a long time for me to even
(17:53):
accept that. It took me a while, I think because
I didn't necessarily believe that I did. I think that
also I was late I didn't think I would want
to do the work because in some ways as a producer,
I thought, oh, I'll just acquire, you know, intellectual properties,
and and that will be my way of everybody.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh that thought. Guess what we could go to commercial.
I'm Sidney Stumpo and you listen Toughest Nails I WBZ
and welcome back to Toughest Nails. I'm Cindy Stumpo.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Sammy Stumpo, Christy Cashman.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You guys sure because you really didn't put any behind
that again, Let's try that again. I'm Cindy Stumpo.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I'm Sammy Stumpo, and I'm Christy.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Cash Thank you very much, ladies. Sheep is creepers. Okay,
where were we?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh well, what we should really do is we should
tell people to order my book The Truth about Horses
on Amazon or go to their local, oh you store.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
We're going to push that. Yeah, you know how we
push that? How do you push that? We pushed that.
We give you the last fifty second fact. Okay, good
to Lily push you up.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
We'll then cut this because okay ed radio.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
So okay, we're going to go back. So now you're
out there. You did your first book, and now you're
going to write another book. Yeah, you think that you
have a different way of doing this book. Are you
happy with your first book? Do you want to make
this book even better than your first book? Like what's
going on in your head right now? Because like what
I build, I want to make the next best album, right,
(19:17):
I want to make the next best design, build the
next best. I'm always looking to the next best.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah that Yeah, I feel like this book was starting
to kind of percolate as I was finishing up my
last book.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
So I was getting like.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
The world and the characters and some of the themes
that I wanted to write about were already kind of
happening as I was finishing up my last book. And
that's always a good sign. It's almost like this, you know,
eagerness to continue your voice as a writer and to
you know, to show you're maybe not a one trick
(19:56):
pony or something like that, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Because my wants to be a one hit one.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, exactly. So my you know, my first book was well,
I'm you asked me if I was proud of it.
I'm extremely proud of it. That's proud that I did it.
I'm proud that I took the time, even though at
times it was really really difficult, in the times I
wanted to give up. It's probably the best gift I
ever gave myself, you know, to take the time to
(20:21):
do it. And and you know, I think that also,
I think it's great for my kids to see that,
you know, my kids to see that maybe it wasn't
something that was just going to please me by being
existing as you know, the wife of a whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Whatever. I'll make it easy for you whatever, right, whatever,
what I mean, like, your heart is very successful person
and people know him and he's got a lot of
respect out there.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I worked hard. No one handed him anything either.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, and he was extremely supportive and has been ever since.
And when I switched gears to to write, it was
kind of funny because I had to explain to him
that in the mornings when I'm working, I'm not you know,
I'm not just coloring in a coloring book. I'm actually
trying to think and and think of creative, creative ways
(21:17):
of developing my plot and weaving in characters and subplots
and all of that, and and so you're kind of
you know, I was kind of deep in thought in
the mornings, and then Jay would blast in, good morning,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You know?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And I feel like I just kind of have to
be like please when I'm working, you know, just take
that into consideration that you know that maybe don't come
blasting and maybe test the waters a little peek in.
Don't because it just takes you right out of that work.
It was a learning he's he's still learning.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
He's still learning.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
How about you go in another path of the house and say,
I lo on the door and then we don't have
to work.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
And he wants her, wants her.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, I've done that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
He wants her. He wants her right as man.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And he's he was used to something for so long
and now she's changing it up. So he's like, how
do I change?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Right, Yeah, it don't change.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I can't. I don't change either.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And then he'd even even like try to pretend like
he was, you know, oh, hello, are you working? Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Are you working?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
No, I'm just sitting here.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
She's looking up by him like, oh, he's just never I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Just sitting here. But you may you just said something
you want to make your kids proud?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Right, absolutely, yes, So.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Don't I But the point is when do we do
it for ourselves? Well? I think I am, I really
think I am.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I really feel like this now this the writing has
fulfilled me in my career more than any anything else has.
You know, it's not the only thing that I look
for for fulfillment. And Christy come on, well, that people
understanding about life is that you can't just be fulfilled
by one person. You can't be fulfilled by one career,
(23:00):
you can't be fulfilled by one hobby.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's a whole. You know. We're much more complicated than
see how many roles, how many hats you were out there? Okay,
your roles? You're an author, a producer, a philanthropist. I
mean you're going twenty four to seven, a grandmother, your grandmother, okay,
a wife, a mom, a wife. I'm right. We can
(23:23):
only stretch the band like this for the band breaks,
but you have a much going. Your personality is much
easier going than mine. And that's why probably you and
Jay work is because he's probably very high or strong,
and you're you know, you're easier going. I would have
to say that because theories man, just as the series
man were not strong and toorist.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
She can be pretty stepporn other things that she wants.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Oh, just ask Jay, Just ask Jay. Jay. We're gonna
ask you that. I'm bringing you in on the next one. Okay,
I'm interviewing Jay. But again we're we're in a lot
of hats. You've been married a long time, so sleep
guys are doing something right. You're both a beautiful couple.
Your kids are good looking. Your grandson he's a boy, right, Yeah,
(24:07):
he's beautiful. I watch on Instagram with you. But life's
not easy either, no, right, so we deal with the
struggles and being a mom. I don't care what anybody says.
It's the hardest job in the world.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You can go write twenty books and be the most
successful author, and I can be the most successful builder.
And the hottest job is still being a mom, no
matter what age you get to. By the way, yeah,
I think my grandmother said it best. I called her
one night to come over and Saidana, can you rub
my belly? And she come running right over. My grandmother, right,
very old fashioned grandmother. She's pregnant with me at the time,
(24:43):
pregnant with Samantha, and I was in my ninth month
and she just didn't want to come. She was fully slaved,
like she just wanted to stay there forever. I'm like, Nana,
I can't sleep and she's she's my Jewish grandmother. That said, Mama,
you sleep because the day this baby is born, you'll
never get a good night's sleep every day again. Do
you think that resonated with me? At twenty three years old?
I went like this, what are you talking about them again?
(25:04):
A good night? Say? Well, she was right about that one. Okay,
So being the moms is, I always say, the toughest
job in the world. It's easy to go to work.
I couldn't agree more. But I see here, what are
some of the biggest challenges teenagers face today? And how
does well you think you can help them navigate through this?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Oh? Are you talking about my my gentorship generally?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Oh? Well, because I'm telling you to ask that questions question.
I asked that question. The other questions I've been just
asking my own. I haven't followed anything, but right now,
got it? Okay?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Well, the thing is is that that's I created a
mentorship program for teenagers, you know, in order to be
able to find their creative voice in the arts. Whatever
it is in movie making and writing and illustrating that teenager. Yeah,
it's called you Think. And I started it in Ireland
(26:04):
because I could because we have the property over there,
Kilkee Castle, and so you have that.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh my god, give me a should google that. It's
beautif Yeah, you guys should come visit. Okay, you couldn't
even get me to California. You want to get me
to Ireland just you know, just just.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Maybe I'm going to move somewhere far away. You have
to fly there.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
And I'll go knock myself out the Stark Club, knock
and then wake me up. No, I won't wait that either.
I know it's crazy to go ahead, but it's in Ireland.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Well, I started in Ireland and now I've done. Now
it's turned into sort of this exchange program where I
bring some kids from Ireland here and I have collaborated
with Epiphany School in Dorchester. You should have John a
Reverend John Finley on sometime and yeah, he's amazing, and
we collaborated and now I bring some of the kids
(26:54):
from Epiphany School over there. I'm about to do that
the end of May. We're bringing I think six kids
over from.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Is it hot right now? To get them over here.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
No, no, no, I mean we've done it now. This
is like our third or fourth time of this exchange
program for the arts.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Do you know our best finished copprid just still come
out of Ireland? Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I believe it.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, best plasters out of Ireland, I believe it. There's
still you go to school in Ireland to learn how
to be a finished coppern Oh is that right? Yeah,
So that's why there's such skilled labor over there for
plastered city. You have castle, there's a castle it is it.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Was an actual fortress. A lot of a lot of
people say they live in castles, but they weren't actual fortresses.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
So what made you guys buy a castle in Ireland?
And how much time do you spend there?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Were there so much? Where they're like, you know, every
every couple of months or something, we go over for
five or ten days or so.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But it was because I started riding over there.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
When before I met Jay and I met this whole
group that I was riding with, I was living in
New York going to Pennsylvania on the weekends. Met a
group of people who would travel over there a couple
of times of year. A couple times of years to
do these equestrian trips, and so I was heading over
there when I met Jay. Jay basically invited himself along.
(28:15):
Of course he had been He had been in every
place but Ireland, and so he invited himself along.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Okay, hold that thought. I'm sitty stumble. We're going to
break okay, because I don't want to waste same more
time and welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBC News
Radio ten thirty and I have in the studio.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Sammy stumpa thank God, Christy Cashman.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
There we go see you guys to get to the
fourth segment. You have a big personality, okay, okait, I
love it. Go finish.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh yeah, uh so himself, Jane.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
That's why we have somebody here this Thurday.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Thank you eight right. Yeah, Jay invited himself. I thought
we were going back to nine kids. I thought we
were back to see Okay, Jane fighted himself along to Ireland.
I said, well, that's great, you can come, but I'm
going to be riding like all day. When you ride
over there, it's not just a few hours. You get
on the horse and you're gone all day from dust
(29:11):
till Dawn. I said, you know, I'm not sure, what
are you going to do? And he said, I'm going
to go look for a castle. And so then fast forward,
you know, twenty years and he bought Kilkee Castle.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So you you have horses at the castle.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Not on the property, but right outside. Have two horses
over there. Yeah, how much land is on that around
the property of the ca Well, it's got an eighteen
hole golf course and I think, I mean, we just
bought another plot, so I think we're over two hundred
acres there, So why would you have horses there too?
We should, We probably will eventually. It's just been you know,
it's like it's take it takes time to build it.
(29:52):
And we only started with build with renovating the original
building and then we renovated some of the So this
castle was built what year, Well, eleven eighty is its
original date, eleven eight but the building has changed. It
wasn't a wooden building initially and then eventually they they
(30:12):
built the huge you know, stone stone fortress.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, but I don't know what year that was. Yeah, God,
they have a ghost in there. There are ghosts, so yeah,
it's got to be for sure. Jay and I the
first night we were there, there was a ghost in
our arm or our arm war was shaking and there
was like this rattling thing. And then the next day
we went with uh Ronan Tynan, you know, the singer.
(30:36):
He said, well I can, I'll go get some holy water.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Well he shows Galen a gallon of holy water. I'm
telling like in a milk jug kind of holy work. Yeah,
we went and there's this mantra you say, like, you know,
if you're not you know, you're not welcome here. If
you're if you haven't settled things in your spirit or whatever,
you know, you're not welcome here. And so we asked
(31:00):
you to leave, but you're nice about it. And then yeah,
I think whatever spirits are there now are okay, they're
settled or they're nice.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
They're nice people. They're nice people.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
They're not shaking in here shaking.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
The n you ride all the time when you're here,
where you're riding Hamilton, My horses are in Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And Hamilton, Yeah that's where what else's horses up there?
Maybe Scott I Selembrino, I.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Think Ipswich or Hamilton or that's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
She was a rider. I was a rider. I quit.
I got kicked off that horse. I never got back on.
That horse was my horse, and it kicked me in
the knee and didn't let me back on. So I
was like, okay, I'm done with you, and I think
I ended up punching my tors in the face and
walked away because the horse took off.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Right, the horse, don't tell it.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
The horse took off after he kicked me, threw me off,
kicked me, and then you know what happened was because
my girlfriend Stacy was driving somebody else horse and she
didn't know how to drive the horse. So that horse
through horse whatever riding the horse, and then threw her off,
and then my horse chased the other horse right, So
it was never letting me back on.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Your horse was kind of yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah, he was so nice since I went from the
north Shore and we brought him.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
To Okay, like we moved, you felt the same way.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, we didn't like moving from the north Shore to
your horse was a cancer. My horse did like change.
So I was all done riding at that point. And
the smith, oh my god, she looks so beautiful at
this ship, like the perfect boots, the perfect I used
to go to Wellesley too. What was that?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And by all her riding and then she just said,
I don't want to do the anme one like really, no,
well they weren't. They didn't treat you very nicely.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Then I always rode a camp and then you brought
me and Brooke to go to Dana Hall.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yes you yeah, because they didn't know it was Jewish, right,
and then when they found out what they found out
your friend was and then.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's like they stuck their nose up.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
But I was like, no, oh my god, things were different.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
It was we were coven thirteen. So Sam's like, plus,
we weren't boarding there. They were boording there. But they
said to Sam they were very nice to Sam. The girls,
they just were nice to her friend. So Sam stuck
with her friends said, well, she's.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Not welcome here. I'm not welcome. I don't I'm not
staying here either. And I think that was the end
of your riding career. Yeah, that was it over? And
you have you ever been hurt by a horse?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I mean I've yeah, I've fallen, I've been kicked. I've
been you know sort of the what you go through.
But I mean i've fallen the horse has fallen a
lot with me. Weirdly Westerner English, both but mainly English.
Now when I rode, I rode Western as a kid
(33:41):
more and then.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
When I because you could hold on that thing was
a safety, ye little safety in that thing. Very it's
your legs, the horn, the horn, it just but riding.
When you get out there and you ride, how free
do you feel? Oh?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
It's the It's the best feeling. I mean still to
this day. You know, if I'm having a bad day
and I go out and have even if I have
a bad ride, it makes.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
My day better.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
You know. Any any amount of sitting in the saddle
for me is you know, therapeutic and changes my perspective.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You know, you sometimes just need that thing that.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Takes you out of your life a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
And maybe that's yeah, because it's active. I'm holding all
my legs, I'm getting a workout and it's fast. Imagine
me in a golf course. Look surrounded by all golfers. Right,
I'm gonna chase a little golf ball around. That's not
gonna happen. I might just do that again. That could
be a great idea.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Let's do it. Come out to Halton with me.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Riding, right, because it's like you're free, but you still
have to keep your body strong. You have to keep
your body strong, you know that obviously, right, sure, yeah, yeah, exercise,
but you're moving and.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
The fresh air.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, it's the fresh air and and just you know.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
That's a rush.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It is a rush.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, yeah, a rush. And you can get that horse
to do what you want and be in the same
like synk with the horse.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Does Jake get nervous with you on the horse ever?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I don't think he does anymore. No, it's been I
mean it's you know, it's a long time of watching me.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Does he ride, Does the kids ride?
Speaker 4 (35:15):
They all know how. He knows how. He just you know,
kind of stopped doing it, you know, thirty years ago,
twenty years ago. The kids definitely know how. Actually, we
all did this trek in Australia maybe seven or eight
years ago, and we had the best time and we
were camping and did like, you know, this five day
(35:37):
trek in the snowy mountains. Remember that movie The Man
from Snowy Mountain.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
No, no, the Man from Snowy River.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Okay, it's all the you know, the horse is charging
down the mountain and everything like that. We in the
wild Brumbies. That's where we rode, so we're you know,
we saw all these wild horses.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
And do your kids ride?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
They know how. They're not like regular riders, but they
definitely know how. They're they're natural athletes, you know, they're.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Good now as a writer, like people always say to me, Cindy,
why don't you write a book in your life? I said,
because my life's not that exciting thing. You just so wrong.
It really is, right, I had.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
A colorful life just based on what I know. I
think you should wat a book.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
I was going to tell you, I think you should
write the book for Okay, So they say to me, oh,
AI can do it all for you, right, So how
much authors using AI now to help them?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
You know, that's a good question. I don't know. In
chat chat GBT, I think that it would be maybe
easier to use that if you were writing non fiction, possibly,
but writing fiction you're trying to get I think the
most important part of writing fiction is having a strong
(36:49):
voice that makes the reader want to turn the page.
And I don't, you know, I haven't. I don't know
enough about AI to know whether or not that it's
capable of giving kind of a heart and a soul
to a voice.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
If you're writing a bio on somebody, it's verat.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly or yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Now do young people still pick up books and read them?
When I say young, yeah, the next generation twenty because
in school you read books. But let's say twenty one,
twenty two to thirty two forty two, are they reading books?
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
I think a lot more maybe than we think, because
I notice a lot now when I'm flying, I'll notice
who's reading books versus who's on their phone or watching something,
or at the beach or where was I the other day?
And there was this young girl reading game Lord of
the Rings? Where was I was at the salon, at
(37:47):
the at the hair salon. She was probably, like I
was guessing, maybe like twenty five or something, and she
was reading as opposed to being on her phone. And
I think it's just a much more conscious choice, because
you know, the unconscious thing and the more habit forming
thing is to pick up your phone and look at
your phone and do all that. Reading is a little
bit more work, you know, there's more effort that you
(38:08):
put into it. But what you do on your brand.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Like this generation right there has the attention span of
a flea. I know I know how to get them
to sit there.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
And like you have to write a good book, you
have to write a good book, which I did.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I think I think your book's a great book. All
that that we're going to break. I'm Sindy Stunboney. Listen
to Toughest Nails on WBZ and welcome back to Toughest
Nails on WBZ and I'm here with me.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yeah, Christy Cashman.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Christy, how do people find your book?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Well, the best thing to do would be go to
your bookstore, your local bookstore, and ask them for it.
If they don't have it, they should order it. But
Amazon is obviously the easiest, and if you're lazy, go
to Amazon. But I like to promote the local bookstores.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And the name of the book again is.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Truth about Horses by Christy Cashman.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Perfect. Okay, everybody, have a great, safe weekend. This is
Cindy Stumpo tap his nails on WBZ and we will
see you next weekend.
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