September 22, 2023 • 46 mins
We tier a list of actors & actresses who chose not to take a role in a movie that ended up being an iconic film.
We also discuss the Roman Empire, episode 6 of Ahsoka & MUCH MORE!
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Mac, how often do you thinkof the Roman Empire? I? Uh,
My sister texted me this about aweek ago, as she saw this
trend, and I said to her, almost never, like why the fuck
did you ask me that I hadn'tyet seen the trend? And then she
sent me the TikTok and I said, actually, now that you say that,
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I had just had a conversation liketwo days before about how the Romans
fucked up the calendar, they changedthe whole entire calendar. So I guess
I don't think about the Romans allthat often, but I bet I have
conversations about the Roman Empire probably onceevery couple of weeks. And ask me,
go, how often do you thinkof the Roman Empire? Now,
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keep in mind, I am goingto Rome in about two weeks. Yep,
yep, yep. Never. Idon't think I've ever thought about them.
You're not really a history guy.I don't think you care what happened
a week ago. Broken it's tunnelvision baby. Now that you say that,
though, what are you looking forwardto most in Rome? Pizza,
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pie, pasta, So not theColosseum or anything like that. I've seen
the Colosseum. It's nice. Ohyou've already been to Rome. I have
been to Rome? Why you evengoing? Then? We liked it there.
What I love about Rome is thatevery single place there is trying to
undercut the place next to it.So you're walking, you're like, oh,
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Pasta's eight dollars over there, andyou're like, oh, wait,
Pasta's seven dollars over there, it'ssix dollars over there, five over there.
Every place is just trying to swindlethe next place. One good,
three, yeah, just three.King of Queen Middle Street Entertainment. IM
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you and I'm man, and weare the Mac and Goop program. We
bring you friendship. Yeah, andtoday we're bringing you something that's probably pretty
confusing for most of us. Butwanted to do it, so here we
are. The main reason why Iwanted to do it is such a small
part of what the episode is now. Okay, and I'm not even sure
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what we're calling this episode. Ijust haven't labeled at the bottom Hollywood mistakes.
But what it really is is actorsactresses that passed up on huge roles
to take another one, and onemight say that they made a mistake by
doing so. Okay, all right, you could call this what if,
what if? What if? Dotdot dot? That's all I got.
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I don't have a subtitle either.So the premise here essentially is an actor
in a movie miss connections, missconnections, miss connections, out lowered expectations,
and then they take something else,And of course we'll have you know
what they passed that movie on forthe other what their reason are for not
taking said movie. We have fourtiers, four said actors and actresses to
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be put into, and that isat the top code read I've made a
huge mistake, Joe voice. Sothose are the worst Yes, the worst
tier, Yes, yeah, recountingdown or recounting will be will be ranking
the decision of the actor, notthe movie. Correct the actor's decision,
yes, unless it falls into thisnext category, which is win win,
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which is I guess they made agood decision, but the movie was.
That's gonna be confusing. Let meexplain myself real quick. That is,
the actor passed on this movie tookon another successful movie, and the movie
that the actor passed on got someonethat fit the role better. Okay,
all right, so win win winwin. Is that what I'm saying over
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here? Right? The next oneoff here just straight up movie was better
off. So the movie was betteroff. But also the actor doesn't look
like an idiot. Yes, okay, yes, thank you for explaining that,
because I didn't know what else tosay. So that's good. And
then finally for the actor, goodfor them. It was good that they
didn't take this role. They hada good reason. So the movie sucked
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and the actor made a good decision. Maybe the movie was great, maybe
the movie made a ton of money, but the actor said, here are
my reasons, and you can respecttheir reasons for doing it, all right,
And how many actors in decisions dowe roughly have here? One hundred
and sixty seven. All right,let's rip, let's rip through this.
And of course this tear was madeby the tear maker himself, the other
Billy D a tear master much likethe page master McAuley culkin. And also
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got to thank Men's Health. AndI can't think of the other website that
Billy D helped pull from. Itmight have been Slate. I thought you
were just announcing a sponsor here forthe program. Hey, if Men's Health
wants to hop on, I'm allfor it. Alright, all right,
let's get started here with the firston the list, and that is Jack
Nicholson passing Michael Corleone in The Godfatherand his reason. He told Movieline in
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twenty zero four that the role shouldgo to an Italian. This to me,
now, this is a clear JackNicholson bias in my part, win
win, because Jack Nicholson went onto make several other great movies. Yeah,
so like, obviously being in theGodfather would have helped him out.
But it's not like he struggled toget roles after this, so maybe it's
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movie was better off. I don'tthink he would have added to this movie.
You know what movie might have beenbetter off? You're right, I
have a hard time envisioning that JackNicholson would have made The Godfather better.
I passed on The Godfather. That'ssuch a good Jack Nicholson. You guys
probably thought he was here. NowI'm trying to think, like Goodfellas,
they deal with the whole Irish Italianthing too. But Jack Nicholson would have
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been playing in Italian, yes,exactly, been playing an Irish guy.
So yeah, let's go with themovie was better off? Actually, I
like that, asked the gab Aghoul. Mike Nicholson is fucking terrible.
Yeah, it's not great, Sothat's a good one. Also, just
a reminder of how we do tears. We get three vetos and two stamps.
Yeah. The next one up hereis John Travolta passing on Forrest Gump.
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He was offered the role but turnedit down to make pulp fiction.
This is a win win. That'sa classic win win right there. I
don't think he would have been goodin that role, but he was great
in pulp fiction, so he getsthe win win. Hey, life is
like a box of chocolates. Neverknow what you're gonna get. This is
gonna be a full impression episode.I'm so excited about this. I am
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so excited about I would like toknow who who offered him the role of
Forrest Gump. There had to havebeen a conversation where like, no,
no, come on, we can'tdo this, and some guy was like,
no, John Travolta is Forrest cup. He's Danny Zuko as Forrest Gump,
Jo for Scump, Rocket a teabirds Jacket. Next one up here
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is Will Smith passing up Neo inthe Matrix. He explained he turned down
the role because and he was notproud of the decision, but the movie
seemed too confusing in lack luster.He went on to make Wild wild West
instead. I've made a huge mistake. H Yeah, as much as I
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love Keyatu in that role, I'mvery intrigued as to what that movie would
look like with Will Smith. Soyeah, that's gonna be any huge mistakes.
And like, obviously Keanu is likeif you could look at it as
a possible win win, But WillSmith did not go on to make a
win. Obviously, several years downthe line he did, but Wild Wild
West was a poor choice. Yeah, really bad choice. And again that
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role is iconic for Keyadu, butit's not like any acting decision he made
in that role was iconic. Somaybe it could have been elevated even more.
But you know what we were robbedof, And this was during the
time where Will Smith made a rapsong for all of his movies. We
were robbed of a matrix raps matrixWill Smith featuring Lawrence Fishburn. This next
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one, that pair is Robin Williamspassing up Jack Torrence in The Shining.
Reportedly, director Stanley Kubrick that washis top choice so this is interesting as
a non Jack Nicholson guy. Idon't know if anyone could do that better
than Jack Nicholson. Yeah, butif someone could have, it might be
Robin Williams. Yeah, and thatwas before Williams tapped into that crazy on
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screen character that we saw more throughoutthe nineties. Yeah, still more of
a marque at this point. That'sone of my favorite movies of all time,
one of the best performances of alltimes. I don't know if Robin
Williams regrets. I don't know ifwe have a proper tier for this.
Yeah. That's because I don't knowif that's a win win. Well,
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maybe it is, because I putit the way his trajectory would have changed.
If he was in that horror movie, he would have played much more
different roles going for he would haveplayed more Nicholson roles. He also,
so if he did this role,he might have been the Joker and Batman.
Oh shit, that would have beenpretty cool. Yeah, so keep
the Joker would have been pretty cool. I guess I got my characters,
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Okay. Leonardo DiCaprio turned down BrokeBack Mountain. He was not the only
person to pass on the role BradPitt and Matt Damon did as well.
This is an interesting one because HeathLedger and Jake Jillen Hall absolutely demolished those
two roles, and I think theywere both like B list actors at the
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time. I think they were fringeA list, but they weren't, so
they were a list, but theyweren't movie stars. They weren't megastars as
opposed to DiCaprio, Damon and Pitt, which I think would have overshadows the
perfect role. And I think JillenHall and Ledger we're perfectly cast for that
because they were known but not megastars. So I would say movie movie was
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better off absolutely on that one.Next one up here is John Liftgau as
the Joker, with Liftgou telling ConanO'Brien in twenty nineteen he thought, at
the time, who is gonna wantto watch a movie about Batman? I
don't like Jack Nicholson as the Joker, However, I think John Liftgou would
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have been a terrible Joker. Moviewas better off. Well, the movie
was better off, but also I'vemade a huge mistake because he would have
been a movie star after this.Yeah, but I don't know if he
would have, because I don't thinkit would have been good. Movie was
better off. You're right, BurtReynolds as James Bond in Live and Let
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Die. I don't think Burt Reynoldscan do a British accent. Number one,
everyone loves Burt Reynolds. I don'tactually think Burt Reynolds is that good
of an actor. Maybe that's justme. Maybe I'll get killed for that,
but I don't think he could doa British accent. And so if
you have a James Bond with ashitty British accent or doing an A or
having an American accent, I thinkthat would have sucked. Doing a Burt
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Reynolds accent. I think this isa win win. Burt Reynolds looks better
in the long run, and JamesBond doesn't get you know, shot,
because I might lean more towards moviewas better Off. But I could see
either of those being the right way. Yeah, that could work too.
Yeah. Then we go to ChristinaApplegate as l Woods and legally blonde,
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and it's more just about her notwanting to repeat herself. And you know
what if the movie was stupid thatyou know what if that happened. That's
gotta be I've made a Hughes mistake. That's an iconic role, it always
will be. But also Greasy recyis great in it. Yeah, I
mean that's that was like a careermaking role for Reese Witherspoon. I mean,
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she was in other stuff before,but that showed you she could be
a megastar and launched her into adifferent level. And Applegate's fine without that,
but she definitely could have done thatas well. Like if you imagine
Kelly Bundy going to Harvard, it'ssimilar to that. Sean Connery passed up
on Gandolf and Lord of the Rings. He turned down the role saying he
did not understand the scripts. Andbecause of this, he reportedly missed out
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on four hundred and fifty million dollars. So he's made a huge mistake,
number one, because that's a lotof money and those movies were great.
But do you think he would havemade a good Gandoff? Not as good
as what we got. And alsothe movie that he did was a League
of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and then afterthat he just retired. I would say
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movie was better off that he didnot take this role. But I would
also say that four hundred and fiftymillion dollars is a lot financially, Yes,
but the movie so yeah, that'sthat's right in the middle there.
He clearly should have taken the rolebased on how well the movies did,
but the movies wouldn't have been asgood. This is sort of a circular
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argument here. Is there a categorycalled win lose? I'm good with either
I've made a huge mistake or abetter off. I would say I've made
a huge mistake, all right,I'll accept that, like he made the
big mistake. Obviously the movie wasbetter off. But that's fair that Yeah,
it's a lot of money. That'sthat is very true. I'm sure
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his family is thrilled. I mean, this the third one one best picture.
So he turned down an opportunity tobe in a movie that won an
Oscar Alpaccino turned down Hans Solo inthe Star Wars series, saying, I
was in The Godfather. They didn'tcare if I was right or wrong for
a role. They would just offerit to me because of who I was.
You know what, It's almost agood for them because he made the
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right decision, because he would nothave fitten this role, but the movie
was way better off not having him, So call it as you see it,
because Alpacino also didn't need Star Wars. Yes, correct, and he's
absolutely right about getting off every roleafter The Godfathers. So credit to him.
That's a win for him and awin for us as the fans.
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Matt Damon turned down Harvey Dent inThe Dark Night and said, every now
and then, I think about it. Every now and then you get one
and you just can't do what.I believe he had scheduling issues, and
he said that Aaron also did agreat job in the role. Aaron,
Aaron Eckhart was great as Harvey Dent. Matt Damon would have been great as
Harvey Dent. I'm a little afraidit's sort of what we talked about before.
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Matt Damon almost overshadows the rest ofthe cast in that movie. If
he's cast in that movie, AaronEckhart is the perfect level of actor for
that role. I don't know ifit's a win for Damon though, Yeah,
because he went on to do abunch of those smaller movies that didn't
necessarily crush it. He's had somereal misses in the last fifteen years.
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As much as I like him,I don't know if the movie was better
off either, because I think hecan at least replicate what Eckhart gave us
as good as Eckhart was, Somaybe maybe he made a huge mistake there.
I don't think it was a hugemistake though, Also, what do
you make at the time it wasa scheduling issue. Uh No, it's
definitely not good for him, though, I don't think better off. Do
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you think the movie was better off? Yeah? I think so a little
bit, A little bit. Acart's great in that, okay, all
right, movie was better off.Harrison Ford turned down Alan Grant in Jurassic
Park for reasons undisclosed. He madea huge mistake, huge mistake. I
don't know. Do you think hewanted to be in another franchise where fans
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would bother him. I think he'spretty happy with what he did. On
a personal level, he's probably happy. But if you're gonna use the Connery
agrement here, he missed out ona ship ton of money and he had
another iconic role. You want meto come back for another Jurassic Park movie,
And I think that would have beenespecially funny to watch like him not
wanting to be there in that role, he would have been like even more
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of a cunt. I think themovie was better off for like the stars
of the movie was Newman. Ibet you thought I was gonna say the
dinosaurs. I don't think the moviewas better off for this the movie obviously.
I think the movie actually is betteroff for it. I think the
movie is better off for like thedinosaurs of the spectacle, Harrison Ford would
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have been the spectacle. I thinkHarrison probably would have hated acting against those
sort of dinosaur animatronics or greens.But there were puppets at the time,
there were puppets. He's maybe overthat. He's always been a big fan
of puppets. He's always said heloves puppet shows. Because of his poor
attitude, I'll agree with you themovie was better off my assuming that he's
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gonna have a poor attitude because hefucking he crushed the nineties. He did
a bunch of movies that he wantedto do. No, that's true,
that's true. I agree with youon that one. Johnny Depp turned down
Ferris. Maybe that's a win winhold on that might be a win win
then, okay, fine, win, win, all right, win win,
Billy for Harrison. Billy. Lookslike you didn't put the Johnny Depp
one on here, Billy, ButI'll just mention it and we'll move on.
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Johnny Depp turning down Ferris Bueller andFerris Bueller's Day Off. That's all
right, whatever movie was much betteroff not having Johnny Depp in there,
just my opinion. How about EmilyBlunt turning down Black Widow and Iron Man
two based on her comments about comicbook movies. That's more recent though,
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well, at the time it wasscheduling. I'm sure she felt that way
back then too. That had tohave played a part in the decision making
there. So I'll say, Idon't know what she went on to make.
I do love Emily Blunt, butthis is a win win because she
still went on to make good moviesand we got scarred Joe because of his
Magnum PI contract. Tom Selleck hadto turn down Indiana Jones. I've made
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a huge mistake. Yeah, hemade a huge mistake there for sure.
Then he had to go play ina season of Friends. He was great
in that role, though, whatwas his name I'm blanking right now.
I don't know. This is gonnabe one of the answers at our trivia
at Idle Hands. By the way, tom Selik's mustache Selex mustache, the
episode where Chandler grows a mustache tobe more like him. Nicholas Cage turning
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down Aragorn in Lord of the Rings. He doesn't regret the move, but
he does wish circumstances would have allowedhim to take the role. So this
has gotta be so. Cage's twothousands were so up and down. He
has like the National Treasure movies andwhatnot, but he also has ghost Rider
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and uh, what's the what's thenot the Bees role? Two of the
worst roles of all times, Soit can't will win for him Wickerman,
That's what it was. The moviewas definitely better off. I don't think
he would have added to a Lordof the Rings movie. The two thousands
led to him being in one hundredand fifty movies in the twenty tents.
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This might have relieved some of thatstress. The movie was better off,
but it was. Yeah, becauseit's not a win for Nicolas Cage,
I don't think. But it alsomight be a huge mistake. He even
says it. He's like, Ididn't get the script, but I wish
I did it. Yeah, buthe so we're going off based He clearly
thinks that it was a mistake,but I don't think it was a mistake
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for him. But I also think, like the two thousands, as bad
as he was and some well matterthat the movies were, it leads to
and it plays into how iconic he'sbecome. Imagine a Lord of the Rings
with Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage,like going back a Rock reunion. Going
back and watching bad Nicholas Cage moviesnow is almost a pleasure because they're so
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bad. Ian McKellen turned down Dumbledorein the Harry Potter series. I think
it was where take over a partfrom an actor. So I think it
was to take over the part afterthe first fella died. Yes, yeah,
something to Harris, yes, Ithink. And he didn't want to
do that. That was the wholething originally. Yes, he made a
huge mistake there, because what hashe done other than X Men since then
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Lord of the Rings. He wasalready in Lord of the Rings. He
did more Lord of the Rings.I think he made a huge mistake.
Okay, all right, Mac,I want to staple that there do we
staples our that's our third thing.Now ever gets one staple and I got
one of those staple clamps. Ican take that right out those a little
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clause. I have an endless onebecause you can use that a million times.
Yeah, it just ruins the paper, that's all. You don't have
to really. Yeah, the greatpoint whoever made that never considered the quality
of the paper that you'd be removinga staple from, because it just fucking
smashes the paper. Either that orwe don't know how to use those things
correctly. Molly Ringwall turned down VivianWard in Pretty Woman. She said this
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in an AMA twenty twelve, revealedthat she was approached for the lead role
in Pretty Woman makes sense. Shewas still a huge star at the time.
She reviewed the scripts and didn't sharewhy she did not pursue the role.
She's made a huge mistake because afterthat go Molly Ringwald did do anything.
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She didn't do anything. She wasthe mom in time. I also
would have liked to see Molly Ringwalddone up the way they did Julia Roberts,
but that was a star making starmaking role, absolute star making role.
Henry Winkler turned down Danny Zuko inGreece. My assumption here, and
there's a lot of words here,but I think it's pretty much just boiled
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down to typecasting. He didn't wantto just being Italian every single time.
He didn't want to be an Italianin a leather jack. He didn't want
to be an Italian street tough everyevery movie. Guys, come on,
take it easy on. That wouldhave been a tough one to buy.
To see him going from Fonzi toDanny Zuko. It's a similar character.
I guess. First of all,can Henry Winkler sing? I was asking
to ask you, can you checkyour database? I know that you have
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a database of actors that can alsosing. Can Henry Winkler sing? To
me? This was a win win? Yes, this is it. This
is a win win. Granted,obviously being a part of an iconic movie
would have been something, but hestill has Fonzie, and he had that
amazing comeback. He had his GoldenGlobe, he had his Emmy. So
we're all set. He's all set. Tom Cruise as Wren McCormick in Footloose
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reportedly he turned down the role becauseof scheduling and conflict with all the right
moves. Great reference to this inuh, what did we just the flashed?
That's right, they referenced this eightiespotential swaps here. I would be
intrigued. And we've talked about thismore recently to Tom Cruile's Cruise and the
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more Tom cruils Tom. I can'tspeak today in the less like serious roles.
I mean footloose is like oddly likeserious, but a little more comedic.
I think Kevin Bacon crushes this role. I don't I don't know how
to. I don't know how tossessthis one. I'd say win win.
I mean obviously, I think thatthis could have added to Cruise's resume,
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and he didn't become Is this beforeor after Risky Business? It might be
right after Risky Business, so hewas already a star, not a big
deal. Charlie Huntum as Christian Grayin the Fifty Shades of Gray movie.
He did a couple of table reads, but he had to leave and he
felt awful about it. That wasa massive fan casting too. I remember
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when they were casting that movie becausethe book series obviously exploded and so many
people. Of course, he's comingoff Sons of Aaronaki, one of the
more famous television actors at the time. Everyone wanted him to play Christian Gray.
They cast him as Christian Gray originally. I don't know if he regrets
it, because those movies don't evenget talked about anymore as big as the
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book series. They made a lotof money, But I also think that
if he took on this role itmight have done better critically at least.
He also hasn't done much since Sons, so he probably regrets not taking that
role. Mistake, made a hugemistake. Okay, I've made a huge
mistake. Bett Midler as Dolores vanKartier and directs. That's Whoopie Goldberg's character.
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Oh boy, movie was much betteroff, much better off. I
don't do you think she regrets thatshe turned on the role, telling Metro
in twenty ten that her fans didn'twant to see her in a wimple?
Is that a non outfit? I'mnot sure, as we were both raised
Catholic and we might should maybe shouldknow that. I have no idea.
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I have no idea what a whimpleis. Emma Watson turned down Maya Dolan
in La La Land because of schedulingconflicts with Beauty and the Beast. Oh,
so they got the other Emma.Oh she got getting the Beast though,
which was decent, So that's awin win probably. I feel like
La La Land would have done betterfor her reputation wise. Maybe that's true,
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but it wasn't a huge mistake.Yeah, and I don't like La
La Land, so I don't blameher for that, although it did get
nominated for a billion Awards, soI would say it's a win win.
Matthew McConaughey passing up on Jack Dawsonin Titanic, he said that he auditioned
with Kate Winslets, had a goodaudition, walked away from it feeling pretty
confident that he had it and didn'tget it. So he never was actually
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offered it, but he was close. Yeah. I was gonna say,
I don't know how they would haveoffered him over DiCaprio because DiCaprio is so
perfect for that role, because whatMcConaughey doesn't have is that boyish charm that
DiCaprio brought to the role. SoI know, this almost seems like he
auditioned for the role, but wasnever really in the running. Yeah,
the movie was for sure better off. Gwyneth Paltrow as Rose Dawson in Titanic.
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Gwyneth Paltrow almost started in Titanic,reportedly turned down the role as Rose,
but she says, you look atthe big pictures and think there's a
universal lesson here. It seems likeshe thinks she made a big mistake.
She doesn't want to admit to it. Was this coming off Shakespeare in Love
as well? Was that the yearor two before? It was around that
time Shakespeare in Love was ninety six. I think her ninety five and Titanks
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what ninety seven? Yes, soshe was probably like the the the it
girl at the time them from therole. Yeah, I feel like she
thinks she made a huge mistake,and I don't necessarily disagree. Hugh Jackman
turned down James Bond in Casino Royale. He said in twenty seventeen that it
would have or he was offered tojoin just before filming of X two,
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and he said he was worried betweenBond and X men he would never be
able to do different things. Well, fresh of all, those are two
very different things. So I don'tknow what he's saying, Like he would
just be stuck to those two franchises. I mean, he's stuck to X
Men anyway. So I don't knowreally what he's talking about. He's saying
he wants to be a song anddance man, and if he's in Bond
and he's an Xmen, he can'tdo that. I don't know how I
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feel about this, Daniel Craig,about the biggest Daniel Craig Bond guy,
I don't. I don't know howJackman would have done in the role.
I don't how do you see this? Well, if he did Bond,
we never would have got the greatestshowman. Have you seen them? No,
it's pretty good. A couple ofgreat songs in there. You're you're
big Zendaya guy. Though. Yeah, I don't think it was a huge
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mistake. I think that he's donepretty well for himself. He has done
pretty well for He's pretty tall.He would have been a nice tall Bond,
that's true. Is it a winwin because a lot of people do
like the Craig Yeah, win winfor me, all right. Bruce Willis
turned down Sam Wheat and Ghost sayingthat he was a knucklehead for turning it
down. I just didn't get it, he said. I said, Hey,
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the guy's a ghost. How areyou going to have a romance?
Famous last words, I'm a realbird brain from turning that down. Swayzy
in that role as iconic. Moviewas better off for sure. Liam Neeson
turned down Abraham Lincoln and Lincoln andsaying, I thought, I'm not even
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supposed to be here. I don'twant to play I can't be here.
I'm not even supposed to be here. Zero percent chance that they offered him
this role over Daniel day lewis right. He was at table reads and he's
like, I have no passion forthis. I don't want to do this.
That is interesting, this is anextraordinary piece of writing. But I
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had no connection with it whatsoever.I don't know if he made a huge
mistake, though, based on whathe's saying, it feels like he doesn't
regret it at all. Yeah,that's a win win. The movie was
better off movie. Okay, fine, I those the same things. No.
Mel Gibson turned down General Maximus DecimusMetadius and Gladiator Really is He turned
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down Russell Crowe's character Russell Crowe,who did you say this was again Mel
Gibson, and he said, becausehe's too old or he was too Yeah,
he probably would have been pretty fuckinggood in that role. Actually,
Russell Crowe is also pretty good inthat role too. He probably went on
to make what women want, soso for me, no, he made
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he is mistake there, excuse mistake. Tom Hanks as Jerry McGuire in Jerry
McGuire. The role of Jerry McGuirewas literally written for Tom Hanks, but
Hanks turned down the film after readingthe script, even though the entire production
was banking on him for the movie. Winwyn. Uh. When you think
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about the charm that that role has, Tom Cruise does it well, but
you could see how that was writtenfor Hanks. I don't think. Yeah,
I guess, Winwyn. I thinkat the time Cruis had more boyish
charm for sure, But yeah,all right, fine, Winwyin Jim Carrey
as Buddy the Elf. The scriptfor Elf was first written in nineteen ninety
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three, and carry was reportedly readyto play the role of Buddy, but
it did not come out for anotherdecade and he was hesitant to book the
role after playing The Grinch. Thankgod, we did not get that because
after seeing Will Ferrell as that character, Buddy the Elf, you could never
envision anyone else ever playing that character, especially not Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey's
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Elf would have been more seedy,right, a little more damised. Somebody
stop me movie? Much better offfor this Buddy Santa's coming later, Ricky,
Really, I'm back, Maybe impressionsgo. Amelia Clark turned down Anastasia
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Steel in Fifty Shades of Gray,saying that she did not want to do
the required nudity because of the nudescenes that she had done in Game of
Thrones. This is a tough onetoo. I don't think she really regrets
it, because again, no oneeven talks about these movies anymore. I
really, I think Dakota Johnson isone of the worst actresses on the plot.
Yeah, I think once again,the movie would have been better with
Clark and hunt him. Yea.But good for her, she didn't want
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to do it. Yeah, goodfor her, Good for her, Good
for her. Brad Pitt as JasonBourne in the Born series. Pitt was
originally booked to play the role ofBorn, but left the film series due
to a scheduling conflicts. I don'tthink Brad Pitt has any regrets in life,
so I don't think he will everthink he's made a huge mistake having
said that, he would have beenfucking awesome in this role. Yeah,
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but no, Damon, Damon's great. I love Brad Pitt. You I
don't like If you told me hewas the best actor on the planet,
I wouldn't disagree. I don't knowif he could do a better job than
what Damon did in the role.Though, Sandra Bullock turned down the role
of Neo in The mat We gottarake that, dude, Oh what did
I do? Tear it? Wedidn't. We didn't say anything. No
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win win win? When sure,Mac, did you know that Sandra Bullock
turned down the role of Neo inThe Matrix. Neo was almost turned into
a female role and a script wassent to Bullock, but after those tweaks
of the role, ultimately she turnedearned it down. Movie was better off?
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Better off? By the way,is Brad Pitt and Troy one of
the coolest characters ever. Brad Pittbadass and once upon a time in Hollywood.
Yeah, outside of murdering his wife, I'll put my foot down.
You shouldn't do that could have beenan accident. Well, the movie left
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it up as like, well,maybe he didn't, but he probably did,
implies it's likely that he did,but it didn't make it definitive,
and then Quentin Tarantino wrote a bookHe's like, yeah, he did.
Jennifer Lawrence turned down bella Swan inTwilight and said that she had no idea
Twilight would be such a big deal. Good for her because she would have
(32:45):
been stuck playing that unserious sort ofrole. I mean, Christen Stewart,
She's fine. I don't mind KristenStewart, but she ended up going on
to make The Hunger Games instead,and that was a massive win for her,
so I would say good for goodfor them. Michael Keaton turned down
the role of Phil Connors in GroundhogDay. Of course, the role went
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to Bill Murray, but Keaton toldEntertainment Weekly in twenty fourteen he said he
didn't get the allure of the filmor the character. This guy sounds like
kind of a rye, sardonic,glib young man that I've played, and
it ended up being played by thegreat Bill Murray. So you couldn't have
done it better than what Bill did. He's probably right about that, But
I think he could have replicated whatBill Murray gave us. It would have
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been pretty good. I love comedicKeaton. Yeah, no, I agree
with you. I agree with youon that. The like that's a tough
one. I think he made ahuge mistake. You might be right.
He might be right. That's afucking great movie. He would have been
awesome in that. He would havebeen awesome in it. He would have
been great. I agree there.Then Multiplicity rocks because there's so many Keaton's,
(33:50):
it's all Keytons. Give me allthe Keatons. If you can give
me a Keaton multiverse movie of justall the Keaton characters, Yeah, you
get the four Multiplicity boy, andthen you get Ray Kroc the next one.
Up Here is the reason why Iwanted to do the podcast, this
specific topic, and it had nothingto do with the rest of everything on
(34:14):
here. Yea. And that isEminem's turning down ET saying that we did
not want our Eminem candies in yourmovies because we don't want to be associated
with aliens. Do you think,like, how many hours after the premiere
do you think that they regretted thisand not only that think of how Rezy
(34:35):
Pieces stepped forward, took this roleand became just an iconic candy because of
this movie. Yeah, they madea massive mistake. Also, let me
point this out, Eminem's is ownedby the Mars Company, and Mars did
not want to be associated with Aliens. Also, good work by Billy putting
that as number one, number onemistake. This was the reason why I
(35:00):
wanted to do the podcast. Iguess it's over now. Yeah, that's
it, all right. Claire Danesturned down the role of Rose Dewitz in
Titanic. He hear me out ofthis one. Yeah, bear with me.
The scene in the car would havebeen much less inspired if it was
(35:22):
Claire Danes's nipple. I will leteveryone else interpret that as they will.
The movie was better. Sarah MichelleGellar turned down the role of Claire Horowitz
and Clueless Scheduling because she was ona soap opera at the time. All
my children that she really want outon that one. So I'm gonna say,
(35:42):
good for them, good for them, or I mean that's kind of
a I mean, she obviously wenton to become Buffy, but yeah,
that's a that was she she gotBuffy and still and I know what she
did last summer, and I knowshe eventually became the it girl, But
this movie made Alicia Silverstone the yetgirl. Essen No, like she got
Batman forever out of it. Ohmy god, Batman would have been first
(36:06):
off Home and Robin. Imagine ifyou swapped this out where now she's gonna
be bat girl and she is inback to the Past with Brendan Frasier.
Frazier. Sorry, I don't thinkshe thinks she made a mistake there.
Okay, well, I'm gonna gowin win good for them. How about
win win, because Alicia Silverstone's greatin that movie. Win. Yep,
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you're right, winwy Vigo Mortenston whateverit is, turned down the role of
Wolverine in the X Men franchise becausehe did not want to be committing to
a series of movies. And thenhe took Lord of the Rings, so
that was really confusing. That's awin win. He got Lord of the
Rings, we got Hugh Jackman.Michelle Peiffer turned down the role of Clarice
(36:52):
Starling and she said that I wastrepidacious. There was so much evil in
that film. It was that evilone in the end, and at the
end of the film, Evil ruledout and I was uncomfortable with that ending
as much as I love pfif firstand maybe I would have been the one
throwing the come. I'm glad thatJodie Foster got that role. Julia Roberts
(37:15):
turned down the role of Annie Reidand Sleepless in Seattle, And before I
do anything else, because this isa giant paragraph that I'm not going to
read, I've never seen this movie. Meg Ryan is perfect in that role.
I think Julia Roberts doesn't bring thesame thing that Meg Ryan does.
So movie was better off. Moviewas better off. And finally, the
(37:37):
final actress to turn down a movierole, and that is Amanda Seafreed,
who turned down the role of Gomorrahand Guardians of the Galaxy, saying,
I didn't want to be part ofthe first Marvel movie that bombed. Who
wants to see a movie about atalking tree in Raccoon, which is clearly
(37:59):
wrong. I was very wrong.Clearly she made a huge mistake. Also,
her of the wide eye would havefit the Gomrah character very well.
You know what, she would havebeen great as Mantis. She would have
been a good mantis as well.Yeah, that's that's a massive regret on
her part for sure, and shekind of admitted it there. She's like,
yeah, I was kind of stupidat the time. I should fucked
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up. All right, Mac,do you see anything on the board,
because I'm pretty happy with how we'veteared these that you would like to move,
staple, stamp, remove, deletefrom existence. I'd like the three
hole punch, the whole thing.No, I'm good with everything. Yeah,
I'm pretty good. So Mac,how about you just quickly read off
if you can see the screen?Yeah, I'm I'm further away. It's
so much tougher. I can't seeanything, Okay, so I will do
(38:42):
my best with what I can see. Why don't we just screenshot it and
tweet it out instead. We aregoing to do that, but let me
do I've made a huge mistake.I think I can read these. If
Billy can scroll in a little bitfurther, that'd be great. But et
Eminem's turning down et Mars Candy notwanting to be associated with Aliens, Will
(39:02):
Smith turning down Neo, Christina Applegateturning down l Wood from not stealing Harvard.
That's a different movie. That's thebest. And Tom Green movie,
Sean Connery turning down four hundred andfifty million dollars, Lord of the Rings
money, Tom Selleck, Magnum pI Contract over Indiana Jones. The next
(39:22):
one, I just flat cancy,so I'm just gonna skip it. Molly
is Ian McKellen as Dumbledore. Therewe go Molly Ringwall turning down, Pretty
Woman, Charlie Harnum, Charlie,Charlie Harnum, Charlie Hunnam, fifty shades
of Gray. Then we have GwynethPaltrow for Titanic, Mel Gibson for Gladiator,
(39:44):
Michael Keaton turning down. I wasabout to say, what about Bob.
I'm all over the place with thesemovies right now, groundhog Day,
and then finally Amanda Sea Freed turningdown Gomorrah. Yeah. By the way,
the photo of Julia Robertson this absolutelyelectric smile there. That's how she
made her money. It's the smile. There was a point on this earth
that she was the hottest female walkingit. It was the part and pretty
(40:07):
Woman. I'm just gonna take thisdown. It's too much of our screen.
It was the Part and Pretty Woman. When Richard gere clamped down the
box and she gave that laugh,and you're like, you know what,
America's sweetheart and and right there,So go on Twitter, tell us what
you think our biggest mistake is fromthis episode. Let's get into Max and
(40:37):
maxa could be anything. It couldbe a boat. Mac. We are
through six episodes of AHSKA. Howyou doing so the most recent episode spoiler
alert here. If you haven't seenepisode six, just skipped to the end
of the podcast, or stop listening. We got Thrown and Ezra finally in
the latest episode, and it wassuper cool to see them live on live
(40:59):
action for the first time. It'spretty clear to me right now that the
end of this season is going tobe like a cliffhanger. You know,
they sort of discussed this, howFeloni's movie is going to tie up the
story from this in Mandalorian in themovie it's setting up. However, I
think for an exciting last couple episodes. We have a Soca on the way
(41:20):
that other universe that they're in withthe whales we have we don't know.
They haven't revealed anything about Ezra yet, what like if he's still been wielding
the Force or whatnot. But Ezrais a pretty powerful force user. We
also find out Ezra, I meanThron has been working with the Night Sisters,
so he has some some magic toplay with there. And I thought
(41:44):
one of the coolest parts of theepisode was seeing Thron's Stormtroopers and how they're
like beaten and battered, and italmost looks like there's a possibility where all
of these Stormtroopers had died and they'vebeen reanimated by the Night Sisters. I
think that's in play as well.I know. It's just everything looks really
cool right now, but we needsome stuff to happen in the final couple
(42:07):
episodes because the last two haven't beena whole lot of happening story wise.
Obviously we've got the cool Ahsoka Anakinstuff at episode five, but not much
has happened story wise these last twoepisodes. So two things here, maybe
three. Number one, I lovethose little tortoise fellas, Yeah, teenage
alien Ninja turtles. I like thosea lot. This show looks awesome.
(42:30):
It does. It looks especially thelast like three episodes, it has just
looked amazing. But I feel likeI'm missing something still. I wish someone
told me before this show started towatch the other two shows leading into it,
No, no doubt about it.If you'd never watched Clone Wars or
(42:51):
Rebels, there's a piece of thisemotionally that you're just not getting. Like
that scene in the in the inthe last episode with Ezra and Sabine reuniting
lost awesome. Yeah, lost onme, ye lost on someone that did
not watch Rebels. I am emotionallydisconnected from so much of this. Yeah,
I believe that, and I totallyunderstand that. But also thrown walking
(43:14):
through all those Stormtroopers looked fucking cool. It was great Episode five, That
whole Clone Wars thing looked fucking cool. Now, do you have a level
of regret? Have you made ahuge mistake by not watching Clone Wars and
Rebels? Mistakes in my life?I don't think I would put it that
high stars like viewing media, viewingmedia and podcast preparation, or you know,
(43:39):
trying to enjoy something. I guessminorly, I guess a little bit.
All right, I feel like you'vemade a huge mistake, Like,
hey, time is of the essence, my man, I don't really have
that much of it. You watcha lot of dumb shit it's me sitting
at home at night being like Imight I'm gonna fall asleep in a house
(44:00):
four and I know this in myhead, and I'm like, I could
either start this or I could watcha fifteen minute video on YouTube about some
garbage and I do that instead.Yeah, well, here we are,
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Sportswear dot com expert screenprinting and broideryDepublic dot com. So much I think
you should leave march over there andgo and buy it once again, big
thank you to the other Billy dthere. He is yeah, associate producer,
he put the stair it again.We cannot unmut his microphone because he
has to choose to do it himself. But that's fine. There we go.
(45:06):
Ah cameo. That cameo would justyel that get one, get one
an episode. So yeah, allright, Billy, thank you. I
look forward to her. I lookforward to your Italian stuff here next week.
I just realized I've made a hugemistake. We forgot the big one.
Matt Damon and Avatar. Oh fuck, that should be number one.
(45:28):
Oh good for him? He turnedDo you know how much money he turned
down for Matt Damon? He turneddown back and they offered him back and
that damn, Billy, do youhave the amount of money that he turned
down? Believe it was ten ofthese. It was ten percent of Avatar.
Then would be all the money inthe world. And I'm telling you
(45:49):
right now, he does not regretit. Wow, that is such a
we are so dumb. That wasthe number one. Now ten percent of
Avatar. Man, Like Matt,I'm telling you right now, sitting here
today, Matt Damon is stoked.He's not shooting seven fucking sequels with James
Cameron. He spoke about this.He said, I've made a huge mistake.
(46:10):
No, nope, didn't say thathe did. Oh yeah, I
prove it all right, Billy,Thank you, Bud, of course.
All right, so Tuesdays or GooseDays, I abuse kangaroos. Stick around
next week for a news damp alienstuff. Now it's time for girls jumping
on trampolines. Please flip the cassetteover to side B to continue the adventure.
Mac, how often do you thinkof the Roman Empire? I? Uh,
My sister texted me this about aweek ago, as she saw this
trend, and I said to her, almost never, like why the fuck
did you ask me that I hadn'tyet seen the trend? And then she
sent me the TikTok and I said, actually, now that you say that,
(00:20):
I had just had a conversation liketwo days before about how the Romans
fucked up the calendar, they changedthe whole entire calendar. So I guess
I don't think about the Romans allthat often, but I bet I have
conversations about the Roman Empire probably onceevery couple of weeks. And ask me,
go, how often do you thinkof the Roman Empire? Now,
(00:42):
keep in mind, I am goingto Rome in about two weeks. Yep,
yep, yep. Never. Idon't think I've ever thought about them.
You're not really a history guy.I don't think you care what happened
a week ago. Broken it's tunnelvision baby. Now that you say that,
though, what are you looking forwardto most in Rome? Pizza,
(01:02):
pie, pasta, So not theColosseum or anything like that. I've seen
the Colosseum. It's nice. Ohyou've already been to Rome. I have
been to Rome? Why you evengoing? Then? We liked it there.
What I love about Rome is thatevery single place there is trying to
undercut the place next to it.So you're walking, you're like, oh,
(01:23):
Pasta's eight dollars over there, andyou're like, oh, wait,
Pasta's seven dollars over there, it'ssix dollars over there, five over there.
Every place is just trying to swindlethe next place. One good,
three, yeah, just three.King of Queen Middle Street Entertainment. IM
(02:00):
you and I'm man, and weare the Mac and Goop program. We
bring you friendship. Yeah, andtoday we're bringing you something that's probably pretty
confusing for most of us. Butwanted to do it, so here we
are. The main reason why Iwanted to do it is such a small
part of what the episode is now. Okay, and I'm not even sure
(02:20):
what we're calling this episode. Ijust haven't labeled at the bottom Hollywood mistakes.
But what it really is is actorsactresses that passed up on huge roles
to take another one, and onemight say that they made a mistake by
doing so. Okay, all right, you could call this what if,
what if? What if? Dotdot dot? That's all I got.
(02:43):
I don't have a subtitle either.So the premise here essentially is an actor
in a movie miss connections, missconnections, miss connections, out lowered expectations,
and then they take something else,And of course we'll have you know
what they passed that movie on forthe other what their reason are for not
taking said movie. We have fourtiers, four said actors and actresses to
(03:07):
be put into, and that isat the top code read I've made a
huge mistake, Joe voice. Sothose are the worst Yes, the worst
tier, Yes, yeah, recountingdown or recounting will be will be ranking
the decision of the actor, notthe movie. Correct the actor's decision,
yes, unless it falls into thisnext category, which is win win,
(03:31):
which is I guess they made agood decision, but the movie was.
That's gonna be confusing. Let meexplain myself real quick. That is,
the actor passed on this movie tookon another successful movie, and the movie
that the actor passed on got someonethat fit the role better. Okay,
all right, so win win winwin. Is that what I'm saying over
(03:53):
here? Right? The next oneoff here just straight up movie was better
off. So the movie was betteroff. But also the actor doesn't look
like an idiot. Yes, okay, yes, thank you for explaining that,
because I didn't know what else tosay. So that's good. And
then finally for the actor, goodfor them. It was good that they
didn't take this role. They hada good reason. So the movie sucked
(04:15):
and the actor made a good decision. Maybe the movie was great, maybe
the movie made a ton of money, but the actor said, here are
my reasons, and you can respecttheir reasons for doing it, all right,
And how many actors in decisions dowe roughly have here? One hundred
and sixty seven. All right,let's rip, let's rip through this.
And of course this tear was madeby the tear maker himself, the other
Billy D a tear master much likethe page master McAuley culkin. And also
(04:41):
got to thank Men's Health. AndI can't think of the other website that
Billy D helped pull from. Itmight have been Slate. I thought you
were just announcing a sponsor here forthe program. Hey, if Men's Health
wants to hop on, I'm allfor it. Alright, all right,
let's get started here with the firston the list, and that is Jack
Nicholson passing Michael Corleone in The Godfatherand his reason. He told Movieline in
(05:08):
twenty zero four that the role shouldgo to an Italian. This to me,
now, this is a clear JackNicholson bias in my part, win
win, because Jack Nicholson went onto make several other great movies. Yeah,
so like, obviously being in theGodfather would have helped him out.
But it's not like he struggled toget roles after this, so maybe it's
(05:30):
movie was better off. I don'tthink he would have added to this movie.
You know what movie might have beenbetter off? You're right, I
have a hard time envisioning that JackNicholson would have made The Godfather better.
I passed on The Godfather. That'ssuch a good Jack Nicholson. You guys
probably thought he was here. NowI'm trying to think, like Goodfellas,
they deal with the whole Irish Italianthing too. But Jack Nicholson would have
(05:53):
been playing in Italian, yes,exactly, been playing an Irish guy.
So yeah, let's go with themovie was better off? Actually, I
like that, asked the gab Aghoul. Mike Nicholson is fucking terrible.
Yeah, it's not great, Sothat's a good one. Also, just
a reminder of how we do tears. We get three vetos and two stamps.
Yeah. The next one up hereis John Travolta passing on Forrest Gump.
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He was offered the role but turnedit down to make pulp fiction.
This is a win win. That'sa classic win win right there. I
don't think he would have been goodin that role, but he was great
in pulp fiction, so he getsthe win win. Hey, life is
like a box of chocolates. Neverknow what you're gonna get. This is
gonna be a full impression episode.I'm so excited about this. I am
(06:40):
so excited about I would like toknow who who offered him the role of
Forrest Gump. There had to havebeen a conversation where like, no,
no, come on, we can'tdo this, and some guy was like,
no, John Travolta is Forrest cup. He's Danny Zuko as Forrest Gump,
Jo for Scump, Rocket a teabirds Jacket. Next one up here
(07:06):
is Will Smith passing up Neo inthe Matrix. He explained he turned down
the role because and he was notproud of the decision, but the movie
seemed too confusing in lack luster.He went on to make Wild wild West
instead. I've made a huge mistake. H Yeah, as much as I
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love Keyatu in that role, I'mvery intrigued as to what that movie would
look like with Will Smith. Soyeah, that's gonna be any huge mistakes.
And like, obviously Keanu is likeif you could look at it as
a possible win win, But WillSmith did not go on to make a
win. Obviously, several years downthe line he did, but Wild Wild
West was a poor choice. Yeah, really bad choice. And again that
(07:48):
role is iconic for Keyadu, butit's not like any acting decision he made
in that role was iconic. Somaybe it could have been elevated even more.
But you know what we were robbedof, And this was during the
time where Will Smith made a rapsong for all of his movies. We
were robbed of a matrix raps matrixWill Smith featuring Lawrence Fishburn. This next
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one, that pair is Robin Williamspassing up Jack Torrence in The Shining.
Reportedly, director Stanley Kubrick that washis top choice so this is interesting as
a non Jack Nicholson guy. Idon't know if anyone could do that better
than Jack Nicholson. Yeah, butif someone could have, it might be
Robin Williams. Yeah, and thatwas before Williams tapped into that crazy on
(08:37):
screen character that we saw more throughoutthe nineties. Yeah, still more of
a marque at this point. That'sone of my favorite movies of all time,
one of the best performances of alltimes. I don't know if Robin
Williams regrets. I don't know ifwe have a proper tier for this.
Yeah. That's because I don't knowif that's a win win. Well,
(08:58):
maybe it is, because I putit the way his trajectory would have changed.
If he was in that horror movie, he would have played much more
different roles going for he would haveplayed more Nicholson roles. He also,
so if he did this role,he might have been the Joker and Batman.
Oh shit, that would have beenpretty cool. Yeah, so keep
the Joker would have been pretty cool. I guess I got my characters,
(09:22):
Okay. Leonardo DiCaprio turned down BrokeBack Mountain. He was not the only
person to pass on the role BradPitt and Matt Damon did as well.
This is an interesting one because HeathLedger and Jake Jillen Hall absolutely demolished those
two roles, and I think theywere both like B list actors at the
(09:43):
time. I think they were fringeA list, but they weren't, so
they were a list, but theyweren't movie stars. They weren't megastars as
opposed to DiCaprio, Damon and Pitt, which I think would have overshadows the
perfect role. And I think JillenHall and Ledger we're perfectly cast for that
because they were known but not megastars. So I would say movie movie was
(10:05):
better off absolutely on that one.Next one up here is John Liftgau as
the Joker, with Liftgou telling ConanO'Brien in twenty nineteen he thought, at
the time, who is gonna wantto watch a movie about Batman? I
don't like Jack Nicholson as the Joker, However, I think John Liftgou would
(10:28):
have been a terrible Joker. Moviewas better off. Well, the movie
was better off, but also I'vemade a huge mistake because he would have
been a movie star after this.Yeah, but I don't know if he
would have, because I don't thinkit would have been good. Movie was
better off. You're right, BurtReynolds as James Bond in Live and Let
(10:48):
Die. I don't think Burt Reynoldscan do a British accent. Number one,
everyone loves Burt Reynolds. I don'tactually think Burt Reynolds is that good
of an actor. Maybe that's justme. Maybe I'll get killed for that,
but I don't think he could doa British accent. And so if
you have a James Bond with ashitty British accent or doing an A or
having an American accent, I thinkthat would have sucked. Doing a Burt
(11:11):
Reynolds accent. I think this isa win win. Burt Reynolds looks better
in the long run, and JamesBond doesn't get you know, shot,
because I might lean more towards moviewas better Off. But I could see
either of those being the right way. Yeah, that could work too.
Yeah. Then we go to ChristinaApplegate as l Woods and legally blonde,
(11:31):
and it's more just about her notwanting to repeat herself. And you know
what if the movie was stupid thatyou know what if that happened. That's
gotta be I've made a Hughes mistake. That's an iconic role, it always
will be. But also Greasy recyis great in it. Yeah, I
mean that's that was like a careermaking role for Reese Witherspoon. I mean,
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she was in other stuff before,but that showed you she could be
a megastar and launched her into adifferent level. And Applegate's fine without that,
but she definitely could have done thatas well. Like if you imagine
Kelly Bundy going to Harvard, it'ssimilar to that. Sean Connery passed up
on Gandolf and Lord of the Rings. He turned down the role saying he
did not understand the scripts. Andbecause of this, he reportedly missed out
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on four hundred and fifty million dollars. So he's made a huge mistake,
number one, because that's a lotof money and those movies were great.
But do you think he would havemade a good Gandoff? Not as good
as what we got. And alsothe movie that he did was a League
of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and then afterthat he just retired. I would say
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movie was better off that he didnot take this role. But I would
also say that four hundred and fiftymillion dollars is a lot financially, Yes,
but the movie so yeah, that'sthat's right in the middle there.
He clearly should have taken the rolebased on how well the movies did,
but the movies wouldn't have been asgood. This is sort of a circular
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argument here. Is there a categorycalled win lose? I'm good with either
I've made a huge mistake or abetter off. I would say I've made
a huge mistake, all right,I'll accept that, like he made the
big mistake. Obviously the movie wasbetter off. But that's fair that Yeah,
it's a lot of money. That'sthat is very true. I'm sure
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his family is thrilled. I mean, this the third one one best picture.
So he turned down an opportunity tobe in a movie that won an
Oscar Alpaccino turned down Hans Solo inthe Star Wars series, saying, I
was in The Godfather. They didn'tcare if I was right or wrong for
a role. They would just offerit to me because of who I was.
You know what, It's almost agood for them because he made the
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right decision, because he would nothave fitten this role, but the movie
was way better off not having him, So call it as you see it,
because Alpacino also didn't need Star Wars. Yes, correct, and he's
absolutely right about getting off every roleafter The Godfathers. So credit to him.
That's a win for him and awin for us as the fans.
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Matt Damon turned down Harvey Dent inThe Dark Night and said, every now
and then, I think about it. Every now and then you get one
and you just can't do what.I believe he had scheduling issues, and
he said that Aaron also did agreat job in the role. Aaron,
Aaron Eckhart was great as Harvey Dent. Matt Damon would have been great as
Harvey Dent. I'm a little afraidit's sort of what we talked about before.
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Matt Damon almost overshadows the rest ofthe cast in that movie. If
he's cast in that movie, AaronEckhart is the perfect level of actor for
that role. I don't know ifit's a win for Damon though, Yeah,
because he went on to do abunch of those smaller movies that didn't
necessarily crush it. He's had somereal misses in the last fifteen years.
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As much as I like him,I don't know if the movie was better
off either, because I think hecan at least replicate what Eckhart gave us
as good as Eckhart was, Somaybe maybe he made a huge mistake there.
I don't think it was a hugemistake though, Also, what do
you make at the time it wasa scheduling issue. Uh No, it's
definitely not good for him, though, I don't think better off. Do
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you think the movie was better off? Yeah? I think so a little
bit, A little bit. Acart's great in that, okay, all
right, movie was better off.Harrison Ford turned down Alan Grant in Jurassic
Park for reasons undisclosed. He madea huge mistake, huge mistake. I
don't know. Do you think hewanted to be in another franchise where fans
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would bother him. I think he'spretty happy with what he did. On
a personal level, he's probably happy. But if you're gonna use the Connery
agrement here, he missed out ona ship ton of money and he had
another iconic role. You want meto come back for another Jurassic Park movie,
And I think that would have beenespecially funny to watch like him not
wanting to be there in that role, he would have been like even more
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of a cunt. I think themovie was better off for like the stars
of the movie was Newman. Ibet you thought I was gonna say the
dinosaurs. I don't think the moviewas better off for this the movie obviously.
I think the movie actually is betteroff for it. I think the
movie is better off for like thedinosaurs of the spectacle, Harrison Ford would
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have been the spectacle. I thinkHarrison probably would have hated acting against those
sort of dinosaur animatronics or greens.But there were puppets at the time,
there were puppets. He's maybe overthat. He's always been a big fan
of puppets. He's always said heloves puppet shows. Because of his poor
attitude, I'll agree with you themovie was better off my assuming that he's
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gonna have a poor attitude because hefucking he crushed the nineties. He did
a bunch of movies that he wantedto do. No, that's true,
that's true. I agree with youon that one. Johnny Depp turned down
Ferris. Maybe that's a win winhold on that might be a win win
then, okay, fine, win, win, all right, win win,
Billy for Harrison. Billy. Lookslike you didn't put the Johnny Depp
one on here, Billy, ButI'll just mention it and we'll move on.
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Johnny Depp turning down Ferris Bueller andFerris Bueller's Day Off. That's all
right, whatever movie was much betteroff not having Johnny Depp in there,
just my opinion. How about EmilyBlunt turning down Black Widow and Iron Man
two based on her comments about comicbook movies. That's more recent though,
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well, at the time it wasscheduling. I'm sure she felt that way
back then too. That had tohave played a part in the decision making
there. So I'll say, Idon't know what she went on to make.
I do love Emily Blunt, butthis is a win win because she
still went on to make good moviesand we got scarred Joe because of his
Magnum PI contract. Tom Selleck hadto turn down Indiana Jones. I've made
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a huge mistake. Yeah, hemade a huge mistake there for sure.
Then he had to go play ina season of Friends. He was great
in that role, though, whatwas his name I'm blanking right now.
I don't know. This is gonnabe one of the answers at our trivia
at Idle Hands. By the way, tom Selik's mustache Selex mustache, the
episode where Chandler grows a mustache tobe more like him. Nicholas Cage turning
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down Aragorn in Lord of the Rings. He doesn't regret the move, but
he does wish circumstances would have allowedhim to take the role. So this
has gotta be so. Cage's twothousands were so up and down. He
has like the National Treasure movies andwhatnot, but he also has ghost Rider
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and uh, what's the what's thenot the Bees role? Two of the
worst roles of all times, Soit can't will win for him Wickerman,
That's what it was. The moviewas definitely better off. I don't think
he would have added to a Lordof the Rings movie. The two thousands
led to him being in one hundredand fifty movies in the twenty tents.
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This might have relieved some of thatstress. The movie was better off,
but it was. Yeah, becauseit's not a win for Nicolas Cage,
I don't think. But it alsomight be a huge mistake. He even
says it. He's like, Ididn't get the script, but I wish
I did it. Yeah, buthe so we're going off based He clearly
thinks that it was a mistake,but I don't think it was a mistake
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for him. But I also think, like the two thousands, as bad
as he was and some well matterthat the movies were, it leads to
and it plays into how iconic he'sbecome. Imagine a Lord of the Rings
with Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage,like going back a Rock reunion. Going
back and watching bad Nicholas Cage moviesnow is almost a pleasure because they're so
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bad. Ian McKellen turned down Dumbledorein the Harry Potter series. I think
it was where take over a partfrom an actor. So I think it
was to take over the part afterthe first fella died. Yes, yeah,
something to Harris, yes, Ithink. And he didn't want to
do that. That was the wholething originally. Yes, he made a
huge mistake there, because what hashe done other than X Men since then
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Lord of the Rings. He wasalready in Lord of the Rings. He
did more Lord of the Rings.I think he made a huge mistake.
Okay, all right, Mac,I want to staple that there do we
staples our that's our third thing.Now ever gets one staple and I got
one of those staple clamps. Ican take that right out those a little
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clause. I have an endless onebecause you can use that a million times.
Yeah, it just ruins the paper, that's all. You don't have
to really. Yeah, the greatpoint whoever made that never considered the quality
of the paper that you'd be removinga staple from, because it just fucking
smashes the paper. Either that orwe don't know how to use those things
correctly. Molly Ringwall turned down VivianWard in Pretty Woman. She said this
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in an AMA twenty twelve, revealedthat she was approached for the lead role
in Pretty Woman makes sense. Shewas still a huge star at the time.
She reviewed the scripts and didn't sharewhy she did not pursue the role.
She's made a huge mistake because afterthat go Molly Ringwald did do anything.
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She didn't do anything. She wasthe mom in time. I also
would have liked to see Molly Ringwalddone up the way they did Julia Roberts,
but that was a star making starmaking role, absolute star making role.
Henry Winkler turned down Danny Zuko inGreece. My assumption here, and
there's a lot of words here,but I think it's pretty much just boiled
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down to typecasting. He didn't wantto just being Italian every single time.
He didn't want to be an Italianin a leather jack. He didn't want
to be an Italian street tough everyevery movie. Guys, come on,
take it easy on. That wouldhave been a tough one to buy.
To see him going from Fonzi toDanny Zuko. It's a similar character.
I guess. First of all,can Henry Winkler sing? I was asking
to ask you, can you checkyour database? I know that you have
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a database of actors that can alsosing. Can Henry Winkler sing? To
me? This was a win win? Yes, this is it. This
is a win win. Granted,obviously being a part of an iconic movie
would have been something, but hestill has Fonzie, and he had that
amazing comeback. He had his GoldenGlobe, he had his Emmy. So
we're all set. He's all set. Tom Cruise as Wren McCormick in Footloose
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reportedly he turned down the role becauseof scheduling and conflict with all the right
moves. Great reference to this inuh, what did we just the flashed?
That's right, they referenced this eightiespotential swaps here. I would be
intrigued. And we've talked about thismore recently to Tom Cruile's Cruise and the
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more Tom cruils Tom. I can'tspeak today in the less like serious roles.
I mean footloose is like oddly likeserious, but a little more comedic.
I think Kevin Bacon crushes this role. I don't I don't know how
to. I don't know how tossessthis one. I'd say win win.
I mean obviously, I think thatthis could have added to Cruise's resume,
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and he didn't become Is this beforeor after Risky Business? It might be
right after Risky Business, so hewas already a star, not a big
deal. Charlie Huntum as Christian Grayin the Fifty Shades of Gray movie.
He did a couple of table reads, but he had to leave and he
felt awful about it. That wasa massive fan casting too. I remember
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when they were casting that movie becausethe book series obviously exploded and so many
people. Of course, he's comingoff Sons of Aaronaki, one of the
more famous television actors at the time. Everyone wanted him to play Christian Gray.
They cast him as Christian Gray originally. I don't know if he regrets
it, because those movies don't evenget talked about anymore as big as the
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book series. They made a lotof money, But I also think that
if he took on this role itmight have done better critically at least.
He also hasn't done much since Sons, so he probably regrets not taking that
role. Mistake, made a hugemistake. Okay, I've made a huge
mistake. Bett Midler as Dolores vanKartier and directs. That's Whoopie Goldberg's character.
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Oh boy, movie was much betteroff, much better off. I
don't do you think she regrets thatshe turned on the role, telling Metro
in twenty ten that her fans didn'twant to see her in a wimple?
Is that a non outfit? I'mnot sure, as we were both raised
Catholic and we might should maybe shouldknow that. I have no idea.
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I have no idea what a whimpleis. Emma Watson turned down Maya Dolan
in La La Land because of schedulingconflicts with Beauty and the Beast. Oh,
so they got the other Emma.Oh she got getting the Beast though,
which was decent, So that's awin win probably. I feel like
La La Land would have done betterfor her reputation wise. Maybe that's true,
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but it wasn't a huge mistake.Yeah, and I don't like La
La Land, so I don't blameher for that, although it did get
nominated for a billion Awards, soI would say it's a win win.
Matthew McConaughey passing up on Jack Dawsonin Titanic, he said that he auditioned
with Kate Winslets, had a goodaudition, walked away from it feeling pretty
confident that he had it and didn'tget it. So he never was actually
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offered it, but he was close. Yeah. I was gonna say,
I don't know how they would haveoffered him over DiCaprio because DiCaprio is so
perfect for that role, because whatMcConaughey doesn't have is that boyish charm that
DiCaprio brought to the role. SoI know, this almost seems like he
auditioned for the role, but wasnever really in the running. Yeah,
the movie was for sure better off. Gwyneth Paltrow as Rose Dawson in Titanic.
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Gwyneth Paltrow almost started in Titanic,reportedly turned down the role as Rose,
but she says, you look atthe big pictures and think there's a
universal lesson here. It seems likeshe thinks she made a big mistake.
She doesn't want to admit to it. Was this coming off Shakespeare in Love
as well? Was that the yearor two before? It was around that
time Shakespeare in Love was ninety six. I think her ninety five and Titanks
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what ninety seven? Yes, soshe was probably like the the the it
girl at the time them from therole. Yeah, I feel like she
thinks she made a huge mistake,and I don't necessarily disagree. Hugh Jackman
turned down James Bond in Casino Royale. He said in twenty seventeen that it
would have or he was offered tojoin just before filming of X two,
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and he said he was worried betweenBond and X men he would never be
able to do different things. Well, fresh of all, those are two
very different things. So I don'tknow what he's saying, Like he would
just be stuck to those two franchises. I mean, he's stuck to X
Men anyway. So I don't knowreally what he's talking about. He's saying
he wants to be a song anddance man, and if he's in Bond
and he's an Xmen, he can'tdo that. I don't know how I
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feel about this, Daniel Craig,about the biggest Daniel Craig Bond guy,
I don't. I don't know howJackman would have done in the role.
I don't how do you see this? Well, if he did Bond,
we never would have got the greatestshowman. Have you seen them? No,
it's pretty good. A couple ofgreat songs in there. You're you're
big Zendaya guy. Though. Yeah, I don't think it was a huge
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mistake. I think that he's donepretty well for himself. He has done
pretty well for He's pretty tall.He would have been a nice tall Bond,
that's true. Is it a winwin because a lot of people do
like the Craig Yeah, win winfor me, all right. Bruce Willis
turned down Sam Wheat and Ghost sayingthat he was a knucklehead for turning it
down. I just didn't get it, he said. I said, Hey,
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the guy's a ghost. How areyou going to have a romance?
Famous last words, I'm a realbird brain from turning that down. Swayzy
in that role as iconic. Moviewas better off for sure. Liam Neeson
turned down Abraham Lincoln and Lincoln andsaying, I thought, I'm not even
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supposed to be here. I don'twant to play I can't be here.
I'm not even supposed to be here. Zero percent chance that they offered him
this role over Daniel day lewis right. He was at table reads and he's
like, I have no passion forthis. I don't want to do this.
That is interesting, this is anextraordinary piece of writing. But I
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had no connection with it whatsoever.I don't know if he made a huge
mistake, though, based on whathe's saying, it feels like he doesn't
regret it at all. Yeah,that's a win win. The movie was
better off movie. Okay, fine, I those the same things. No.
Mel Gibson turned down General Maximus DecimusMetadius and Gladiator Really is He turned
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down Russell Crowe's character Russell Crowe,who did you say this was again Mel
Gibson, and he said, becausehe's too old or he was too Yeah,
he probably would have been pretty fuckinggood in that role. Actually,
Russell Crowe is also pretty good inthat role too. He probably went on
to make what women want, soso for me, no, he made
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he is mistake there, excuse mistake. Tom Hanks as Jerry McGuire in Jerry
McGuire. The role of Jerry McGuirewas literally written for Tom Hanks, but
Hanks turned down the film after readingthe script, even though the entire production
was banking on him for the movie. Winwyn. Uh. When you think
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about the charm that that role has, Tom Cruise does it well, but
you could see how that was writtenfor Hanks. I don't think. Yeah,
I guess, Winwyn. I thinkat the time Cruis had more boyish
charm for sure, But yeah,all right, fine, Winwyin Jim Carrey
as Buddy the Elf. The scriptfor Elf was first written in nineteen ninety
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three, and carry was reportedly readyto play the role of Buddy, but
it did not come out for anotherdecade and he was hesitant to book the
role after playing The Grinch. Thankgod, we did not get that because
after seeing Will Ferrell as that character, Buddy the Elf, you could never
envision anyone else ever playing that character, especially not Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey's
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Elf would have been more seedy,right, a little more damised. Somebody
stop me movie? Much better offfor this Buddy Santa's coming later, Ricky,
Really, I'm back, Maybe impressionsgo. Amelia Clark turned down Anastasia
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Steel in Fifty Shades of Gray,saying that she did not want to do
the required nudity because of the nudescenes that she had done in Game of
Thrones. This is a tough onetoo. I don't think she really regrets
it, because again, no oneeven talks about these movies anymore. I
really, I think Dakota Johnson isone of the worst actresses on the plot.
Yeah, I think once again,the movie would have been better with
Clark and hunt him. Yea.But good for her, she didn't want
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to do it. Yeah, goodfor her, Good for her, Good
for her. Brad Pitt as JasonBourne in the Born series. Pitt was
originally booked to play the role ofBorn, but left the film series due
to a scheduling conflicts. I don'tthink Brad Pitt has any regrets in life,
so I don't think he will everthink he's made a huge mistake having
said that, he would have beenfucking awesome in this role. Yeah,
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but no, Damon, Damon's great. I love Brad Pitt. You I
don't like If you told me hewas the best actor on the planet,
I wouldn't disagree. I don't knowif he could do a better job than
what Damon did in the role.Though, Sandra Bullock turned down the role
of Neo in The mat We gottarake that, dude, Oh what did
I do? Tear it? Wedidn't. We didn't say anything. No
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win win win? When sure,Mac, did you know that Sandra Bullock
turned down the role of Neo inThe Matrix. Neo was almost turned into
a female role and a script wassent to Bullock, but after those tweaks
of the role, ultimately she turnedearned it down. Movie was better off?
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Better off? By the way,is Brad Pitt and Troy one of
the coolest characters ever. Brad Pittbadass and once upon a time in Hollywood.
Yeah, outside of murdering his wife, I'll put my foot down.
You shouldn't do that could have beenan accident. Well, the movie left
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it up as like, well,maybe he didn't, but he probably did,
implies it's likely that he did,but it didn't make it definitive,
and then Quentin Tarantino wrote a bookHe's like, yeah, he did.
Jennifer Lawrence turned down bella Swan inTwilight and said that she had no idea
Twilight would be such a big deal. Good for her because she would have
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been stuck playing that unserious sort ofrole. I mean, Christen Stewart,
She's fine. I don't mind KristenStewart, but she ended up going on
to make The Hunger Games instead,and that was a massive win for her,
so I would say good for goodfor them. Michael Keaton turned down
the role of Phil Connors in GroundhogDay. Of course, the role went
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to Bill Murray, but Keaton toldEntertainment Weekly in twenty fourteen he said he
didn't get the allure of the filmor the character. This guy sounds like
kind of a rye, sardonic,glib young man that I've played, and
it ended up being played by thegreat Bill Murray. So you couldn't have
done it better than what Bill did. He's probably right about that, But
I think he could have replicated whatBill Murray gave us. It would have
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been pretty good. I love comedicKeaton. Yeah, no, I agree
with you. I agree with youon that. The like that's a tough
one. I think he made ahuge mistake. You might be right.
He might be right. That's afucking great movie. He would have been
awesome in that. He would havebeen awesome in it. He would have
been great. I agree there.Then Multiplicity rocks because there's so many Keaton's,
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it's all Keytons. Give me allthe Keatons. If you can give
me a Keaton multiverse movie of justall the Keaton characters, Yeah, you
get the four Multiplicity boy, andthen you get Ray Kroc the next one.
Up Here is the reason why Iwanted to do the podcast, this
specific topic, and it had nothingto do with the rest of everything on
(34:14):
here. Yea. And that isEminem's turning down ET saying that we did
not want our Eminem candies in yourmovies because we don't want to be associated
with aliens. Do you think,like, how many hours after the premiere
do you think that they regretted thisand not only that think of how Rezy
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Pieces stepped forward, took this roleand became just an iconic candy because of
this movie. Yeah, they madea massive mistake. Also, let me
point this out, Eminem's is ownedby the Mars Company, and Mars did
not want to be associated with Aliens. Also, good work by Billy putting
that as number one, number onemistake. This was the reason why I
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wanted to do the podcast. Iguess it's over now. Yeah, that's
it, all right. Claire Danesturned down the role of Rose Dewitz in
Titanic. He hear me out ofthis one. Yeah, bear with me.
The scene in the car would havebeen much less inspired if it was
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Claire Danes's nipple. I will leteveryone else interpret that as they will.
The movie was better. Sarah MichelleGellar turned down the role of Claire Horowitz
and Clueless Scheduling because she was ona soap opera at the time. All
my children that she really want outon that one. So I'm gonna say,
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good for them, good for them, or I mean that's kind of
a I mean, she obviously wenton to become Buffy, but yeah,
that's a that was she she gotBuffy and still and I know what she
did last summer, and I knowshe eventually became the it girl, But
this movie made Alicia Silverstone the yetgirl. Essen No, like she got
Batman forever out of it. Ohmy god, Batman would have been first
(36:06):
off Home and Robin. Imagine ifyou swapped this out where now she's gonna
be bat girl and she is inback to the Past with Brendan Frasier.
Frazier. Sorry, I don't thinkshe thinks she made a mistake there.
Okay, well, I'm gonna gowin win good for them. How about
win win, because Alicia Silverstone's greatin that movie. Win. Yep,
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you're right, winwy Vigo Mortenston whateverit is, turned down the role of
Wolverine in the X Men franchise becausehe did not want to be committing to
a series of movies. And thenhe took Lord of the Rings, so
that was really confusing. That's awin win. He got Lord of the
Rings, we got Hugh Jackman.Michelle Peiffer turned down the role of Clarice
(36:52):
Starling and she said that I wastrepidacious. There was so much evil in
that film. It was that evilone in the end, and at the
end of the film, Evil ruledout and I was uncomfortable with that ending
as much as I love pfif firstand maybe I would have been the one
throwing the come. I'm glad thatJodie Foster got that role. Julia Roberts
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turned down the role of Annie Reidand Sleepless in Seattle, And before I
do anything else, because this isa giant paragraph that I'm not going to
read, I've never seen this movie. Meg Ryan is perfect in that role.
I think Julia Roberts doesn't bring thesame thing that Meg Ryan does.
So movie was better off. Moviewas better off. And finally, the
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final actress to turn down a movierole, and that is Amanda Seafreed,
who turned down the role of Gomorrahand Guardians of the Galaxy, saying,
I didn't want to be part ofthe first Marvel movie that bombed. Who
wants to see a movie about atalking tree in Raccoon, which is clearly
(37:59):
wrong. I was very wrong.Clearly she made a huge mistake. Also,
her of the wide eye would havefit the Gomrah character very well.
You know what, she would havebeen great as Mantis. She would have
been a good mantis as well.Yeah, that's that's a massive regret on
her part for sure, and shekind of admitted it there. She's like,
yeah, I was kind of stupidat the time. I should fucked
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up. All right, Mac,do you see anything on the board,
because I'm pretty happy with how we'veteared these that you would like to move,
staple, stamp, remove, deletefrom existence. I'd like the three
hole punch, the whole thing.No, I'm good with everything. Yeah,
I'm pretty good. So Mac,how about you just quickly read off
if you can see the screen?Yeah, I'm I'm further away. It's
so much tougher. I can't seeanything, Okay, so I will do
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my best with what I can see. Why don't we just screenshot it and
tweet it out instead. We aregoing to do that, but let me
do I've made a huge mistake.I think I can read these. If
Billy can scroll in a little bitfurther, that'd be great. But et
Eminem's turning down et Mars Candy notwanting to be associated with Aliens, Will
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Smith turning down Neo, Christina Applegateturning down l Wood from not stealing Harvard.
That's a different movie. That's thebest. And Tom Green movie,
Sean Connery turning down four hundred andfifty million dollars, Lord of the Rings
money, Tom Selleck, Magnum pI Contract over Indiana Jones. The next
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one, I just flat cancy,so I'm just gonna skip it. Molly
is Ian McKellen as Dumbledore. Therewe go Molly Ringwall turning down, Pretty
Woman, Charlie Harnum, Charlie,Charlie Harnum, Charlie Hunnam, fifty shades
of Gray. Then we have GwynethPaltrow for Titanic, Mel Gibson for Gladiator,
(39:44):
Michael Keaton turning down. I wasabout to say, what about Bob.
I'm all over the place with thesemovies right now, groundhog Day,
and then finally Amanda Sea Freed turningdown Gomorrah. Yeah. By the way,
the photo of Julia Robertson this absolutelyelectric smile there. That's how she
made her money. It's the smile. There was a point on this earth
that she was the hottest female walkingit. It was the part and pretty
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Woman. I'm just gonna take thisdown. It's too much of our screen.
It was the Part and Pretty Woman. When Richard gere clamped down the
box and she gave that laugh,and you're like, you know what,
America's sweetheart and and right there,So go on Twitter, tell us what
you think our biggest mistake is fromthis episode. Let's get into Max and
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maxa could be anything. It couldbe a boat. Mac. We are
through six episodes of AHSKA. Howyou doing so the most recent episode spoiler
alert here. If you haven't seenepisode six, just skipped to the end
of the podcast, or stop listening. We got Thrown and Ezra finally in
the latest episode, and it wassuper cool to see them live on live
(40:59):
action for the first time. It'spretty clear to me right now that the
end of this season is going tobe like a cliffhanger. You know,
they sort of discussed this, howFeloni's movie is going to tie up the
story from this in Mandalorian in themovie it's setting up. However, I
think for an exciting last couple episodes. We have a Soca on the way
(41:20):
that other universe that they're in withthe whales we have we don't know.
They haven't revealed anything about Ezra yet, what like if he's still been wielding
the Force or whatnot. But Ezrais a pretty powerful force user. We
also find out Ezra, I meanThron has been working with the Night Sisters,
so he has some some magic toplay with there. And I thought
(41:44):
one of the coolest parts of theepisode was seeing Thron's Stormtroopers and how they're
like beaten and battered, and italmost looks like there's a possibility where all
of these Stormtroopers had died and they'vebeen reanimated by the Night Sisters. I
think that's in play as well.I know. It's just everything looks really
cool right now, but we needsome stuff to happen in the final couple
(42:07):
episodes because the last two haven't beena whole lot of happening story wise.
Obviously we've got the cool Ahsoka Anakinstuff at episode five, but not much
has happened story wise these last twoepisodes. So two things here, maybe
three. Number one, I lovethose little tortoise fellas, Yeah, teenage
alien Ninja turtles. I like thosea lot. This show looks awesome.
(42:30):
It does. It looks especially thelast like three episodes, it has just
looked amazing. But I feel likeI'm missing something still. I wish someone
told me before this show started towatch the other two shows leading into it,
No, no doubt about it.If you'd never watched Clone Wars or
(42:51):
Rebels, there's a piece of thisemotionally that you're just not getting. Like
that scene in the in the inthe last episode with Ezra and Sabine reuniting
lost awesome. Yeah, lost onme, ye lost on someone that did
not watch Rebels. I am emotionallydisconnected from so much of this. Yeah,
I believe that, and I totallyunderstand that. But also thrown walking
(43:14):
through all those Stormtroopers looked fucking cool. It was great Episode five, That
whole Clone Wars thing looked fucking cool. Now, do you have a level
of regret? Have you made ahuge mistake by not watching Clone Wars and
Rebels? Mistakes in my life?I don't think I would put it that
high stars like viewing media, viewingmedia and podcast preparation, or you know,
(43:39):
trying to enjoy something. I guessminorly, I guess a little bit.
All right, I feel like you'vemade a huge mistake, Like,
hey, time is of the essence, my man, I don't really have
that much of it. You watcha lot of dumb shit it's me sitting
at home at night being like Imight I'm gonna fall asleep in a house
(44:00):
four and I know this in myhead, and I'm like, I could
either start this or I could watcha fifteen minute video on YouTube about some
garbage and I do that instead.Yeah, well, here we are,
so head over it to Twitter andtell us what you think of Asoka Mac.
Where can the people find us?You can find us on Twitter and
on Instagram at Mac and Goo podcastevery other platform Mac, anperson and Goo
(44:22):
That includes Facebook, Stitcher, Tuneand castbuck Speaker, Google Play. Oh,
Stitcher's gone, so okay, editthat out all right, yeah,
fix that in post. We're onSpotify. More importantly, we're on Apple
Podcast. Get on their rate reviewsubscribe five stars. If you do that,
we'll get your free T shirt fromthe folks over at Watertown sports Where.
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Sportswear dot com expert screenprinting and broideryDepublic dot com. So much I think
you should leave march over there andgo and buy it once again, big
thank you to the other Billy dthere. He is yeah, associate producer,
he put the stair it again.We cannot unmut his microphone because he
has to choose to do it himself. But that's fine. There we go.
(45:06):
Ah cameo. That cameo would justyel that get one, get one
an episode. So yeah, allright, Billy, thank you. I
look forward to her. I lookforward to your Italian stuff here next week.
I just realized I've made a hugemistake. We forgot the big one.
Matt Damon and Avatar. Oh fuck, that should be number one.
(45:28):
Oh good for him? He turnedDo you know how much money he turned
down for Matt Damon? He turneddown back and they offered him back and
that damn, Billy, do youhave the amount of money that he turned
down? Believe it was ten ofthese. It was ten percent of Avatar.
Then would be all the money inthe world. And I'm telling you
(45:49):
right now, he does not regretit. Wow, that is such a
we are so dumb. That wasthe number one. Now ten percent of
Avatar. Man, Like Matt,I'm telling you right now, sitting here
today, Matt Damon is stoked.He's not shooting seven fucking sequels with James
Cameron. He spoke about this.He said, I've made a huge mistake.
(46:10):
No, nope, didn't say thathe did. Oh yeah, I
prove it all right, Billy,Thank you, Bud, of course.
All right, so Tuesdays or GooseDays, I abuse kangaroos. Stick around
next week for a news damp alienstuff. Now it's time for girls jumping
on trampolines. Please flip the cassetteover to side B to continue the adventure.
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