March 28, 2025 • 31 mins
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- 2 New Daredevils
- New’ Revenge of the Sith Merch
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Snow White in the Red more like Death of a Pooh, Ncorn,
Marvel's Chair Fair, Come in, sit down and save the world.
Never make the same mistake. Ice. I'm lathered up for
a new popcorn Buckets. It's a me Warrior, all of
(00:24):
that and so much more. But first, news dump. Mac
couldn't make today. So guess who's in. It's Nick Fryar.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
The people at home are so excited right now. Nick,
this is.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Exactly what everybody wanted. When they think of the opposite
of Mac. I'm sure they think of me.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
This is Nick Fryar from the TLDR podcast DraftKings. So
much more, eh, I guess so not that much news
dump over at the box office this past weekend, snow
whitees Bit of a Bomb forty two and a half
million domestic on Metacritic, of fifty on Roddy T's of
forty two seventy four split. And then you have a
(01:04):
bunch of movies around four million, Black Bag, Brave, New World, Novacane,
Mickey seventeen Alto Nights, Robert Duh Narrow bombing at the
box office as well three point one million there snow Whites, Mites, Push,
Disney into some new thinking when it comes to their
(01:24):
movies and what they want to do with their live
action stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I've always had mixed feelings about the live action stuff,
but like you, I like animated. So there's a level
of like, Youldy did this in animated form? What do
we need this in live action? Some of the stuff
I've liked, some of the stuff I haven't. Whatever. I
did not see snow White, so I guess I'm part
of the problem here. But at the same time, I like,
I don't know. We just read remakes all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I guess two or three things stop me if I
go too far. Number One, I'm still very excited for
Lee Lo and Stitch. I'm gonna watch the shit out
of that movie when it comes out. Number two, I
will stand by this. The first snow White that came
out in nineteen thirty one, Watch it again. It actually sucks.
People were just excited that things could move on their
screen and they could hear things, listen to it. Watch
(02:05):
it not that great. And I read a rumor earlier,
and this could be completely wrong, but I saw that
Disney might be going back to trying some two de
animated movies good.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I mean, I hope so. I feel like we're starting
to see a two D movement in general. I mean,
I think Invincibles at the center of that. Obviously stuff
with anime, why not people do enjoy that at various ages.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I think their last one was The Princess and the
Frog and that did pretty well. It has good lasting power,
good staying power.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know how many two D animation movies are
that people like, like have like a large objection to
from Disney.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well, I mean, I know last weekend it didn't come
anywhere close to the box office. But that new Looney
Tunes movie two D animation and critically doing very well.
It's not making any money though.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah to Looney Tunes' is I feel like one they're
trying to sell to younger generation. I don't. I wish
they could. I love Looney Tunes, but I don't know
that they can. I mean, maybe the should bring the
broad back in again.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean, I feel like Warner Brothers is just giving
up on Looney Tunes and they don't want anything to
do with Looney Tunes. Maybe sell Looney Tunes, do what
you can, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Tell them, or just like put them away for a second, like,
let everybody ask like, where the hell are Loony Tunes?
And then bring them back.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I feel like everyone over the last tennish year says
to me on a daily basis, Hey, where the hell
are the Looney tunes?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You get that too, So now there's.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
The time to bring the Looney Tunes back.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I've been dealing with that a lot too recently. That
is strange. Huh. What a coincidence?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Hitting the theaters this weekend is Death of a Unicorn
right now on Rotten Tomatoes, a fifty nine after seventy
six reviews and a fifty five on Metacritic. I have
seen this and I can tell you I don't think
I liked it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Ooh okay, Jenna Ortega, Will Poulter, Paul Rudd.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
A well Poulter. I do like Will Poulter. I think
is the only funny character in that entire movie. It
is a horror comedy that I think really tries to
split the baby in half on both of those genres,
and I don't think succeeds it either.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's too bad to hear. I was excited for that
pairing of Jenna Ortaga and Paul Rod. I feel like
that has a lot of potential.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I was also and I found myself.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So were they individually bad or did they have poor chemistry?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
The overall feel of the movie I didn't care for. Okay,
I just think like there were a couple decent jump
scares credit there, but they could have done more. Horror wise,
they could have been way funnier. There was only one
funny character in the entire movie. And then also they're
bashing you over the head with some really obvious stuff
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of like what the message is in the movie.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So okay, gotcha? I said, yeah, that sounds like a
not a great recipe.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Quoff no news, dup. The other day we got a
five and a half hour reveal from Marvel's live stream.
This got two hundred and seventy five digital views showing
chairs twenty seven chairs. And I'm not talking about Catherine
Heigel and James Marsden's twenty seven dresses, No, honey, it
(04:59):
is the twenties six shares of Avengers Doomsday. Some of
the names on that list that we know right now
are definitely in the movie because we could still get
more people in the movie, maybe not starring or as much,
but Chris Hemsworth, Vanessa Kirby, Anthony Mackie, Sebastian Stan, Letitia Wright,
Paul Rudd, Wyatt, Russell Taneck, Huerta Miech. He is nay
(05:21):
More and I believe he mispronounced his name. I apologize.
Ebon Moss Backrack simul Liu, Florence Pugh, Kelsey Grammar, Big
Day for Good, Big Beast, Lewis Pulman, Danny Ramirez, Joseph Quinn,
David Harber, Winston Duke, Hannah Johnson Kaman, Tom Haddleston. And
(05:44):
that is an interesting one because there are many Lokis,
and I'm curious if they're gonna show our god of Light,
our god of story, Loki that we got at the
end of Loki season two.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, a lot of potential with Loki, a lot of
There's quite a few characters. I let you keep going
though with the list.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Patrick Stuart really old, Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, really old
Ian McKellen, Alan Cumming. I'll say this, I don't care
what age he is. You're bringing back Night Crawler. I'm
in hell.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, I could not believe it when I saw this casting.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Rebecca Romaine, James Marsden, Channon Tatum.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, good for him, He's earned it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
If nothing else, Pedro Pascal and Robert Downey Junior. Now
some reported names but missing from this special Tom Holland,
Bennett Cumberbatch, Chris Evans, Haley Atwell.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, okay. Chris Evans is the one that I'm like,
of all the ones that weren't mentioned, I'm like, and
everybody keeps asking about I don't know. I just I
feel like we're not going again. I feel like he
has moved on. Maybe he's just playing it off. I'm
not sure, and.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Then missing entirely, and people that we thought might be involved.
Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, I'm blanking on her first name, Olson,
Elizabeth Olson, Famke. What is Fan Key's first name? Why
did I write it down? Thank you? Famke? Jensen from
the original X Men run. She was the Dark Phoenix slash.
(07:07):
She was fucking blanking on names right now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Friar Hallie by Dark Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yes, Halle Berry, Toby Maguire, Andrew Garfields, Chris Pratt, and
the rest of the Guardians. Now they also might just
not be in this movie, and then they pop up
in Secret Wars.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, that is also true. That is true. Before I
say anything about the cast members, I want to say
two undred seventy million views, like anybody who says like
Marvel is dead, the MS is dead, like no million.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But also I'm also curious how much of the like
the views? How long do you have to view for
it to count as a view, Like say, if I
pop in for six seven seconds, step away for ten minutes,
pop in again for six to seven seconds, step away,
and keep on doing that on a cycle, does that
count as a new view every time? Or is it
about the individual views the unique views.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The repeat is fair like that. That is a very question.
But I definitely checked in on the live stream a
couple of times and saw it as high as five
million at a couple points, so that number doesn't entirely
surprise me. But still I wouldn't have guessed, like, hey,
we're just gonna roll it out this way and you know,
basically try and do a knockoff of I think you
should leave, except with chairs instead of tables, and then
(08:16):
we get two hundred and seventy five million views. Just
don't ask any questions, but the two characters that I'm
most interested in with all those goo because we know, Okay,
you're Robert Donny Junior Doom. Obviously we've talked about Secret
Wars a ton what's gonna happen, you know from based
on the comics and everything. Chris Hemsworth in a smaller
vein I want, I'm very curious if we're going to
see the Thor core. Are we just going to see
(08:37):
a bunch of Thor variants in Battle World with Doom
if that's the route they're going to go. And then
the other thing that I find myself when I saw
you lay out this list, asking myself, was is Pedro
Pascal the version that we see in the Fantastic Four movie?
Are they actually setting him up to be the Maker,
which is part of the whole Secret Wars initiative in
(08:58):
evil version or turns out to be an evil version
of Reed Richards And I'm just like that makes that
to me makes a lot of sense if this Fantastic
Four is set in a different part of the whole
larger universe, like not six one six, and I would
love that. I think Pedro Pascal would kill it in
that role.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Because the two main stars of the movie our Pascal
and Robert Downey Jr. Those are the two that were
saved for last mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That leads me. See, that's the kind of thing and
if we're not we're not seeing right. Okay, hold up?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Is uh Vanessa Kirby is she's in that?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Okay? Yeah, so she's in there, but we didn't see
the other two?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yes we did, right, Yes we did? Okay, four are there?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
All the fantastic fours are Okay, my apologize anyways, But
the point is having him still at that number two
billing to Robert Downey Junr. As Doom. That kind of
fits that, that whole narrative, that line of thinking.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So I've seen rumors as well of the possibility of
Doom pitting Avengers versus X men in that nowhere space.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, oh, I mean Avengers versus X men. You're here
talking about language. I would fucking I would love that too.
That's another awesome story. And when you're it's interesting because
you saw that in that story, you see I think
it's five or four other X men take on the
Phoenix force, Cyclops being one of the main ones, but
then it's Emma Frost, and then I think it was
(10:15):
Colossus and Magic. We don't see any of those actors
and actresses listened in here. I forget if there was
another one, but that would be interesting as well.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
But with these actors at their age, wouldn't that be
kind of cruel that you're pitting this up old men
up against you know, young gohards, young hard bods.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, that that is a fair point. But then there's
also something to you know, we're super old, but we're
still way more powerful than the rest of you.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, Actually, so you can answer that is so out
of these X men, I mean, Stuart and Magneto, they
would be Omega level correct.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, exactly, And I don't think the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
All no, but they don't mention. I feel like halle
Berry is gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, that would be I mean I would love to
see her thrown in the mix. I mean it would
if you're not going to have her in Dead Pol Wolverine,
then like, yeah, this and this is way more meaningful.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
If you have three Omega level mutants, could you defeat
the rest of these Avengers?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Uh? Possibly? It would be really hard, though, I mean
you still have possibly. That's probably the best answer that
I can give you. I probably still put it on
the Avengers just because you have some other geniuses thrown
in the mix, but it's it's possible.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And then also just looking forward to the pairing of
Chris Hamsworth and Tom Hidleston on the screen again.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, that's a good point that one's like Tom Hillston
like returning is kind of thrown under the phone on
the radar for me a little bit. Obviously The X
Men is just I'm so excited about that. But yeah,
that it's great to have those two together again. On
the note of changing team because I know when he
came up before, you were kind of like it seemed
like you were like a little surprise or questioning it
or whatever. I'm all about it. I I I had
(11:50):
mixed feelings about him at first when I saw him
in Dead Pol Wolverine, because I want a badass Gambit,
but he played the comedic element of Gambit so well.
I'm but I'm still like, very very much stunned. Like
of all the people that are in the mix here,
he's the one that like the how did he enter
the mix with all of these other actors.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Well, there is a deleted scene at the end of
Deadpool that they took out where he sees the big
glowing circleone he jumps in. I would assume that that
is how he gets with this new crew of mutants.
And I feel like I would have preferred, and granted
we say this about every movie now, I would have
liked some surprises when it came to these characters, with
these actors and Channing Tatum, even if he is one
(12:30):
of the stars of the movie, that would have been
a nice surprise.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, I agree. I'm always like, I'm always always feel
that way, Like when we've talked about like you know,
obviously we look at trailers all the time, like for
podcasting and stuff like that, we have to talk about it,
and I'm just like, there's a level of I wish
we got less, like you're you the one that says
it as much as anybody give me less, like I
saw the one thing I don't need any more.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
And I very much agree with We're all going to
the movies, and if even the people that see all
these extra characters in the movies, they're not like, oh,
the red Hulks in this one, I'm gonna go see it,
it doesn't matter anymore. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Everybody's gonna go.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And people I feel like the surprise would also help
in some of like the poor reviews, because it would
at least build up like, oh, out of nowhere, this
red hull popped up, and I'm sorry to keep pointing
at that movie, but like like that would at least
add to like you're building towards something and you get
this payoff that you weren't necessarily fully expecting exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, especially and it may for the critics that may
not do quite as much. I mean, I would the audience,
though it would help the audience exactly exactly. There's other
thing better than a great surprise, like you just have
no clue coming in it totally, all all the math
is there and like you're waiting for in the anticipation,
and then it's like, oh, I don't care about the
rest of it because I got this and it's so cool.
And then it's a movie that maybe was like a
seventy five in your mind and maybe it turned into
(13:45):
an eighty two, and that's not bad.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It's up. Gian Carlo Esposito said, and this is according
to IGN that he wants to play mister Freeze in
the DCU. I am curious, which does he want to
do it with je Guns or does he want to
do it with Robert Pattinson's. I would assume he means
James Guns. I would rather him with Pattinson's, though I.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Completely agree with you, and I think that's that's the
same view, Like he's probably meaning Gun. Whatever he gets,
he gets. But I think, you know, across Battinson, like
that's gonna work really just because he plays serious so
well in the tone that they've established for that corner of,
you know, the DC's future.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I also like the fact that he's kind of getting
back to what he's great at. It seemed like for
a while he was trying to be like, well, I
can also play a good guy. I'm sure you can,
but you're the best at playing bad guys.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah. I watched and the Gentleman recently, if I didn't like,
finished the first season of that, and he's not in
as much, but his on camera presence is just he's
just so in control and you have no way of
trusting him the entire time. He's just he's outstanding in
the villain's role.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And especially for someone like mister Freeze, where it's just
this frozen, cold character. Yeah, he plays that so well.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, he really like in so many ways he would
rock that role. I really appreciate the fact that he
knows how well he would fit that. I don't know
if he came up with that in his own or
if like his agent or somebody said, hey, put this
out there and see what happens. But whoever thought of
that brilliant move?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It is dope. We got two new episodes of Daredevil
Reborn this week. The first one, I'll tell you what,
outside of the one million references to ms Marvel, I
thought that we're bashing us over the head with that
a little bit. I fucking loved the bank robbery episode.
(15:32):
I thought it was perfect, like Saturday Morning cartoon, like
a one off episode. I had so much fun with it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I wish we could get more bottle episodes like this,
like the anthology is necessarily anthologies wouldn't be the right word,
but just a series of bottle episodes. But I feel
like everything that we have to get in Marvel now,
like we hear other guys in the DSGC all the time.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Like it's a continued story, continue story, no, no, you
can take a side quest.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yes, like and I feel like we've gotten some of
that with other stuff, but like they they get committing
to it sometimes as an issue, but we've definitely seen
it in some capacity. I couldn't agree with you more
like I got why you gave us two episodes because
episode six plays to the larger story. But episode five
was like, oh, this is great. That was awesome. Like
I'm like, I was stunn, like you're just gonna give
this this one thing all by itself.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Great Now having said that, episode six fucking ruled.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yes, it did. Absolutely, I'm all here. I'm here for both.
There's no reason you can't have a season of a
show and have it be I feel like they did
it with the animated stuff all the time, where it's
like you have a two episode arcs, you know, a
single episode like one off, one shot, and then you
have like four episodes and then we go we kind
of go from there. That's what we're gonna have here,
as much as it's really eight episodes together in the
one bottle episode, but like, yeah, mix those in.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I also think that this show has really, uh it's
popped out to me more with this show than any
other thing like in the past, because you know, I
don't know about you, but I like to recommend things
to people. I like to recommend movies to people, television
shows to people, And for certain people, hearing the word
superhero movie or comic book show or something like that,
it's a turn off to them. But I feel like
(17:07):
this show and Daredevil in general, is like it's beyond
what those other things are. It's so different to the
point of, like you need sub genres for shows like this.
Should we just call it a visual anti show, like
it's it's so grounded and it has nothing to do
and a little bit to do with powers, but like
really not.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, it really doesn't. I mean, I think describing Daredevil
as a visional anty show is probably the best way
to go about it. But I agree with you, like
when you say, well, my problem that I run into
is when you say superhero genre or comic book movies,
everybody thinks that's one and the same, and they're not
always one and the same. Like another example of that
is like John Constant time, like he's not a superhero,
like he he.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Is gonna bring up Constantine every time he's on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's I mean, that's that's what I'm here for. I
have to hit my quota I was thinking of Hellboy,
but Hellboy is like kind of there's more so the
Perlman hell Boy than the Harbor hell Boy. But it
feels like that that's a kind of.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Both of those comic book slash movie slash shows deals
with like the supernatural, and you can I would almost
And that's the thing too, Like you want to say
that's a sci fi or almost like religious base when
it comes to like the John Constantine stuff, because you're dealing,
but like you need to put those subgenres on there
because so many people now are turned off by the
(18:27):
idea or they just think that all of these things
are the exact same.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah. Well, I mean also the other thing is just
treat it like books. Like there's so many like movies
that I watch and then I find out later that
it's a book. I mean, I see it in the credits,
but it's not part of like the genre. Just say
what the genre is for and if it's superhero, okay,
but for this, call it crime, call it drama, whatever.
You don't need to tell anybody else what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I love this show, I'll say it. I'm not sure
if it's on the path of being a forty Dog Show.
But I've just had such a great time, even with
all the lawyering stuff and yes, what do you have
been disbarred? Maybe he might have stepped out of line,
he might have done some stuff that was would not
be approved of in our great court system. But I
(19:10):
love this show.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I right there with you, and I do think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Fair of the slow build. I love the slow build
as well.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Saying it's not you're not stro forty dog. I think
that's also fair. I feel like for me right now,
it's trending towards thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Maybe that's still a ninety five.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, still, yeah, it's still a long way to go
to It's dope.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
With it's twentieth anniversary coming up and it's re released
into theaters, we are starting to see some popcorn bucket
merch for Revenge of the Sith. We saw a Darth
Vader helmet cup that will be released at Regal theaters,
and we've also seen the popcorn buckets. Is this one
(19:50):
that you need to have?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No, I just wish they'd done a Sarlac pick one.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
They just say, well that would be if they re
release you know, episode six.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I don't care, just have a feel for the moment,
know what you need to do, know your assignment. And
they didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Do you have any popcorn buckets, any theater popcorn buckets?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
No. I thought about getting the Wolverine one, but I didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
The Wolverine One's okay. I still I have the bat
signal one. That it might be too big, though, because
I'm running out of space in my office and I
don't want to eat popcorn out of it because I
don't want to ruin it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
No, you have to like you, No, you have to
have that is a collectible.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
There's Nope. There's a rumor out there that Nick Offerman
could possibly be the voice of Warrio in the upcoming
Mario Brothers movies. Last of Us show runner Craig Mason
thought this idea was brilliant when asked by IGN, saying
that the idea of him bringing Warrior to life has
(20:46):
a lot of potential. He is the right gruffness for
the character, of course, does it quite have the same
voice that we're used to with it? And to me,
Aladio is that what the no warries a little bit? Alatio, right,
that's better? Yeah, Luigi is higher. A lot of HEO
is down here, right.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Wow, you are a true professional. That's in Yes, that
spot on. I agree like that, that's my that's my apprehension.
But you liked Pratt's voice acting for Mario, right?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Not it? Love it. I've loved his voice work in
the past. I thought he was great in the Lego movies.
I didn't care for mn Garfield, but I think that
he gets a bad rap for some of his voiceover stuff.
But he has been great in the past. I think
that putting, especially if you have him voice it like
he is Ron Swanson, that would be a great counter
(21:37):
to the high energy voice of Pratt. And they were
both on Parks and Rec together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Actually I didn't even think about the Parks and rec element.
That's interesting. I felt like going into it with Pratt,
I was like, what are you gonna do here? And yes,
you could still hear.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It's a completely unique voice. It's just his.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, But I'm yeah, So I'm curious what they're gonna
end up doing here because that would be quite the change.
But with Bowser, like you know, we're he doesn't really
talk much.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, but Jack Black rules though. Jack Black, all I
need for the voiceover people in these movies is just
have fun with what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, I think with Nick Offerman, he knows how to
do that when it comes to his acting a herb percent.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
It's so me warrior, just getting like real deep in
his voice, have no accent on it, have nothing on it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You should just do a whole episode just by you
need me here, Just do a whole episode of your impressions.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Everyone like, Oh, is Nick Offerman in the podcast right now? Yeah,
he's sitting right next to me.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Do a whole episode as another actor.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
You know what? I also realized earlier, and maybe I'm
just tardy to the party, but I'm going to assume
that I'm the first person who has ever put this
together that the two biggest uh video game mascots from
the nineties are both voiced by Parks and rec people.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Huh. Yeah, well, I mean I hadn't put that together.
So if I hadn't put it together, then I'm sure
nobody else did.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So I always think of myself as noticing things first
and then you second, So if you or I haven't
done this yet, then no one has.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Exactly. Yeah, that's I wish I had beat you on that,
so maybe I could take that top spot. But I
can't say I can't have to say I'm impressed again.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Stup. We have a release date for the live action
Legend of Zelda movie. It'll be March twenty sixth, twenty
twenty seven. Nothing else has been revealed. I believe it's
gonna be animated, which I think it should be. If
we're going by the voice acting of the other two movies.
Let's assume that Azisanzari will be voicing link.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I thought you're gonna say, Jerry Gerdich. Yeah, I'm excited
for this one. I mean, I love seeing all the
video games start to get there the love because be
clearly we've they've done well when you look at Sonic
and then you look at a super Marlboros, So why not.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
There's nope, be a deadline. Nick Frost is nearing a
deal to play Haggard in the Harry Potter TV series
How do you say his name? Hagrid?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Okay, okay, okay, sorry, I didn't mean to call you
out like that, but he said Haggard and I was like,
wait a second, you're a weird renunciation or something.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Shot the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
This is one of the few cast things that I've
been okay with that. When I saw lyfco for Dumbledore,
I was like, I don't, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I was kind of curd But Lift even told us
that he's gonna be dead by the time the show
is done, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yep, that's this is true. Okay, well get this tun
I'm all right with it. But I know, but Nick Frost,
I do like the casting for this role.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
News Depp captain that I am very excited about. Linda
Cardellini officially will be starring as Pamela Vorhees in A
twenty four's Friday the Thirteenth prequel series.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
So I have no reason to like it or dislike it.
Do you just like it because of you know, the after?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Do you not like Linda Cardellini?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I do, but I'm just trying to think from a
quality of like.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
The raal hashtag my velma.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yes, yes, yes, that's right. Oh, I forgot about I
should know if you know, if you're a big fan
of her acting or if you just think she's pretty.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, I would say that my first when I first,
you know, fell in love with Linda Cardeline, it was
when she was snow lodged Lauren on Boy Meets World,
and she was the girl that Corey should have chose
over to Panga. She had I felt like she would
have allowed Corey to be himself, whereas Topanga was a
little more demanding. And I want to say rained Corey
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in when he shouldn't have been rained in.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Wow. You know, my wife and I not too long
or maybe a month ago, finished a rewatch of Boy
Meets World. Yeah, and I I Corey couldn't looked worse
in my mind refter that rewatch, So I totally disagree with.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It if he stayed with Lauren worse.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yes, run wild like the unhinged maniac that he is. Awful,
it's a manchild.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Did you like Eric's progression throughout the show?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Ah? So I have. I have weird feelings about that,
don't you take dude? Because he's so smart at times,
like he goes whatever, he does it every time he
does an outstanding job, Like that's not a critique. It's
more about the writing. He was brilliant.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's definitely the writing. He didn't walk in there like
I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, but like it's just he But every time he
was given a task, he did a great job with it.
But I'm like, this character has so much more to offer,
and we see it in like random glimpses and it's great.
But then it's like, then you just make him like
this complete idiot. I don't know he could do.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You buy into him having a mental breakdown when he
wasn't able to adopt Tommy. Uh, because that was the
breaking point. Season five is when he completely went off
the edge.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Huh, maybe you know I'll have to We're gonna have
to do a rewatch now that we have that understanding that.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
You can even start right around there. I mean, season six,
Eric is my favorite. Eric. He goes a little too
far in season seven, but season six Eric.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
He's great. I still love him. It's just to I
think they could have done even They could have still
made him a wh like a maniac, but also still
made him more brilliant, more frequently.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Did you even know that he wasn't even supposed to
be on the show past season five? Him and Matthew
Lawrence were supposed to have their own spinoff show, really,
but that never came to be, so they just left
him on that show as the.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
B PL no idea.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Jeez, you read a book news up. Could the critic
be returning? Do you even know what the critic is?
I do?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay seeing this news on top of Kelsey Grammar, I'm
just like, is twenty twenty six gonna be the year
of goop?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
John Lovetz posted on X you keep telling me that
you want it back. I've been trying for years. Well
now creator Al Jean is on board. If you want
it back, we need your help. Please like and post
and spread the word so we can show the studio
how many people want it.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Wow, Goo, you just missed. John Lovetz was in the
studio right it out on I guess.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I mean so the critic would work beautifully in this
current landscape of movies, where he would truly believe that
everything stinks.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yes, it would just fit. It's not just the landscape
of movies is also the last television Why people with
television bros. With the way people feel and like respond
movies and social media and everything like that, I'd just
be yes, it would be great for you.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You can have his own podcast exact that's essentially what
we do well exactly. It stinks every single time. I
will say this though, is that if you go back
and watch the critic. I believe that they I want
to say, Shout Factory might have put out some DVDs
and like the two thousands, or you might be able
to find some stuff on YouTube. If you watch it,
(28:34):
it looks like early Family Guy. Like, it looks like
Family Guy took a beat from what they were doing
on the Critic, especially with their cutaway gags.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Interesting, huh. I haven't watched I haven't seen anything of
it in years, so I couldn't tell you. But that
makes sense. I mean, if it was good. I mean,
I mean there's so many times that things just like
die away and then they influence something that's just way better.
So I mean not to say the Critic and Family Guy,
which is better first between the two. But you get
my point.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
There's doubt. I finally saying I finally because it just
came out. But I watched the premiere for the studio
on Apple TV Plus. Did you catch this?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
No? I'm not a big Apple TV guy? How was it?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
The first episode is free, That's how they get you.
I would describe it as Curby r Enthusiasm meets entourage.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Oh wow, okay, is it as unfiltered as as CURB is.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So it's scripted. That's the big difference. Curb is more like,
let's get into a scenario and we'll figure it out.
But it's more of the TV movie higher ups and
how they get their business done. But then you're dealing
with tons and tons and tons of cameos with some
dialogue that I feel like doesn't flow.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, well until the dialogue bit you had me, I
was like, this sounds d.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I don't think it's bad, but I do think it's
very inside baseball.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I don't mind that though. I don't mind that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I don't mind it, but I feel like free comedy now,
like this is what they're doing because all of the
big comedic names have been in Hollywood for so long
that this is what they know. Yeah, they don't connect
to the common man anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, I guess it's a fair point. But to some level,
I guess I don't know. I guess I don't care that,
so I guess maybe I haven't watched as much of that.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Necessarily, I've used my three months of free Apple TV,
plus I've used my seven free days. I'm out of
all that stuff, so I'll be waiting until this is
all available, and maybe I'll pay for a month at
that point, so it is good enough for me to
spend ten dollars and watch some eventually, but not a
week to week need to pay for two or three months.
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News dam I'll do it for this episode of news Dump.
Thank you for joining me fry Er on such short notice.
Do you want to plug yourself?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, make sure you listen to the dork Shared Gooniverse
Podcast of the Year for twenty twenty four or on
half a Podcast Spotify on any of your major podcasting platforms,
and we're also on Blue Sky, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Check us out on all those spots to wherever podcasts
are found. We'll have a podcast next week. I'm not
sure if we'll be doing Death of a Unicorn. Mac
doesn't have to see it. I don't think it's really
worth our time, but if he sees it, we'll talk
about it. We'll see news up
Snow White in the Red more like Death of a Pooh, Ncorn,
Marvel's Chair Fair, Come in, sit down and save the world.
Never make the same mistake. Ice. I'm lathered up for
a new popcorn Buckets. It's a me Warrior, all of
(00:24):
that and so much more. But first, news dump. Mac
couldn't make today. So guess who's in. It's Nick Fryar.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
The people at home are so excited right now. Nick,
this is.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Exactly what everybody wanted. When they think of the opposite
of Mac. I'm sure they think of me.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
This is Nick Fryar from the TLDR podcast DraftKings. So
much more, eh, I guess so not that much news
dump over at the box office this past weekend, snow
whitees Bit of a Bomb forty two and a half
million domestic on Metacritic, of fifty on Roddy T's of
forty two seventy four split. And then you have a
(01:04):
bunch of movies around four million, Black Bag, Brave, New World, Novacane,
Mickey seventeen Alto Nights, Robert Duh Narrow bombing at the
box office as well three point one million there snow Whites, Mites, Push,
Disney into some new thinking when it comes to their
(01:24):
movies and what they want to do with their live
action stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I've always had mixed feelings about the live action stuff,
but like you, I like animated. So there's a level
of like, Youldy did this in animated form? What do
we need this in live action? Some of the stuff
I've liked, some of the stuff I haven't. Whatever. I
did not see snow White, so I guess I'm part
of the problem here. But at the same time, I like,
I don't know. We just read remakes all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I guess two or three things stop me if I
go too far. Number One, I'm still very excited for
Lee Lo and Stitch. I'm gonna watch the shit out
of that movie when it comes out. Number two, I
will stand by this. The first snow White that came
out in nineteen thirty one, Watch it again. It actually sucks.
People were just excited that things could move on their
screen and they could hear things, listen to it. Watch
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it not that great. And I read a rumor earlier,
and this could be completely wrong, but I saw that
Disney might be going back to trying some two de
animated movies good.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I mean, I hope so. I feel like we're starting
to see a two D movement in general. I mean,
I think Invincibles at the center of that. Obviously stuff
with anime, why not people do enjoy that at various ages.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I think their last one was The Princess and the
Frog and that did pretty well. It has good lasting power,
good staying power.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know how many two D animation movies are
that people like, like have like a large objection to
from Disney.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well, I mean, I know last weekend it didn't come
anywhere close to the box office. But that new Looney
Tunes movie two D animation and critically doing very well.
It's not making any money though.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah to Looney Tunes' is I feel like one they're
trying to sell to younger generation. I don't. I wish
they could. I love Looney Tunes, but I don't know
that they can. I mean, maybe the should bring the
broad back in again.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean, I feel like Warner Brothers is just giving
up on Looney Tunes and they don't want anything to
do with Looney Tunes. Maybe sell Looney Tunes, do what
you can, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Tell them, or just like put them away for a second, like,
let everybody ask like, where the hell are Loony Tunes?
And then bring them back.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I feel like everyone over the last tennish year says
to me on a daily basis, Hey, where the hell
are the Looney tunes?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You get that too, So now there's.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
The time to bring the Looney Tunes back.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I've been dealing with that a lot too recently. That
is strange. Huh. What a coincidence?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Hitting the theaters this weekend is Death of a Unicorn
right now on Rotten Tomatoes, a fifty nine after seventy
six reviews and a fifty five on Metacritic. I have
seen this and I can tell you I don't think
I liked it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Ooh okay, Jenna Ortega, Will Poulter, Paul Rudd.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
A well Poulter. I do like Will Poulter. I think
is the only funny character in that entire movie. It
is a horror comedy that I think really tries to
split the baby in half on both of those genres,
and I don't think succeeds it either.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's too bad to hear. I was excited for that
pairing of Jenna Ortaga and Paul Rod. I feel like
that has a lot of potential.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I was also and I found myself.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So were they individually bad or did they have poor chemistry?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
The overall feel of the movie I didn't care for. Okay,
I just think like there were a couple decent jump
scares credit there, but they could have done more. Horror wise,
they could have been way funnier. There was only one
funny character in the entire movie. And then also they're
bashing you over the head with some really obvious stuff
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of like what the message is in the movie.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So okay, gotcha? I said, yeah, that sounds like a
not a great recipe.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Quoff no news, dup. The other day we got a
five and a half hour reveal from Marvel's live stream.
This got two hundred and seventy five digital views showing
chairs twenty seven chairs. And I'm not talking about Catherine
Heigel and James Marsden's twenty seven dresses, No, honey, it
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is the twenties six shares of Avengers Doomsday. Some of
the names on that list that we know right now
are definitely in the movie because we could still get
more people in the movie, maybe not starring or as much,
but Chris Hemsworth, Vanessa Kirby, Anthony Mackie, Sebastian Stan, Letitia Wright,
Paul Rudd, Wyatt, Russell Taneck, Huerta Miech. He is nay
(05:21):
More and I believe he mispronounced his name. I apologize.
Ebon Moss Backrack simul Liu, Florence Pugh, Kelsey Grammar, Big
Day for Good, Big Beast, Lewis Pulman, Danny Ramirez, Joseph Quinn,
David Harber, Winston Duke, Hannah Johnson Kaman, Tom Haddleston. And
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that is an interesting one because there are many Lokis,
and I'm curious if they're gonna show our god of Light,
our god of story, Loki that we got at the
end of Loki season two.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, a lot of potential with Loki, a lot of
There's quite a few characters. I let you keep going
though with the list.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Patrick Stuart really old, Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, really old
Ian McKellen, Alan Cumming. I'll say this, I don't care
what age he is. You're bringing back Night Crawler. I'm
in hell.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, I could not believe it when I saw this casting.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Rebecca Romaine, James Marsden, Channon Tatum.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, good for him, He's earned it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
If nothing else, Pedro Pascal and Robert Downey Junior. Now
some reported names but missing from this special Tom Holland,
Bennett Cumberbatch, Chris Evans, Haley Atwell.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, okay. Chris Evans is the one that I'm like,
of all the ones that weren't mentioned, I'm like, and
everybody keeps asking about I don't know. I just I
feel like we're not going again. I feel like he
has moved on. Maybe he's just playing it off. I'm
not sure, and.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Then missing entirely, and people that we thought might be involved.
Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, I'm blanking on her first name, Olson,
Elizabeth Olson, Famke. What is Fan Key's first name? Why
did I write it down? Thank you? Famke? Jensen from
the original X Men run. She was the Dark Phoenix slash.
(07:07):
She was fucking blanking on names right now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Friar Hallie by Dark Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yes, Halle Berry, Toby Maguire, Andrew Garfields, Chris Pratt, and
the rest of the Guardians. Now they also might just
not be in this movie, and then they pop up
in Secret Wars.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, that is also true. That is true. Before I
say anything about the cast members, I want to say
two undred seventy million views, like anybody who says like
Marvel is dead, the MS is dead, like no million.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But also I'm also curious how much of the like
the views? How long do you have to view for
it to count as a view, Like say, if I
pop in for six seven seconds, step away for ten minutes,
pop in again for six to seven seconds, step away,
and keep on doing that on a cycle, does that
count as a new view every time? Or is it
about the individual views the unique views.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The repeat is fair like that. That is a very question.
But I definitely checked in on the live stream a
couple of times and saw it as high as five
million at a couple points, so that number doesn't entirely
surprise me. But still I wouldn't have guessed, like, hey,
we're just gonna roll it out this way and you know,
basically try and do a knockoff of I think you
should leave, except with chairs instead of tables, and then
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we get two hundred and seventy five million views. Just
don't ask any questions, but the two characters that I'm
most interested in with all those goo because we know, Okay,
you're Robert Donny Junior Doom. Obviously we've talked about Secret
Wars a ton what's gonna happen, you know from based
on the comics and everything. Chris Hemsworth in a smaller
vein I want, I'm very curious if we're going to
see the Thor core. Are we just going to see
(08:37):
a bunch of Thor variants in Battle World with Doom
if that's the route they're going to go. And then
the other thing that I find myself when I saw
you lay out this list, asking myself, was is Pedro
Pascal the version that we see in the Fantastic Four movie?
Are they actually setting him up to be the Maker,
which is part of the whole Secret Wars initiative in
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evil version or turns out to be an evil version
of Reed Richards And I'm just like that makes that
to me makes a lot of sense if this Fantastic
Four is set in a different part of the whole
larger universe, like not six one six, and I would
love that. I think Pedro Pascal would kill it in
that role.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Because the two main stars of the movie our Pascal
and Robert Downey Jr. Those are the two that were
saved for last mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That leads me. See, that's the kind of thing and
if we're not we're not seeing right. Okay, hold up?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Is uh Vanessa Kirby is she's in that?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Okay? Yeah, so she's in there, but we didn't see
the other two?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yes we did, right, Yes we did? Okay, four are there?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
All the fantastic fours are Okay, my apologize anyways, But
the point is having him still at that number two
billing to Robert Downey Junr. As Doom. That kind of
fits that, that whole narrative, that line of thinking.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So I've seen rumors as well of the possibility of
Doom pitting Avengers versus X men in that nowhere space.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, oh, I mean Avengers versus X men. You're here
talking about language. I would fucking I would love that too.
That's another awesome story. And when you're it's interesting because
you saw that in that story, you see I think
it's five or four other X men take on the
Phoenix force, Cyclops being one of the main ones, but
then it's Emma Frost, and then I think it was
(10:15):
Colossus and Magic. We don't see any of those actors
and actresses listened in here. I forget if there was
another one, but that would be interesting as well.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
But with these actors at their age, wouldn't that be
kind of cruel that you're pitting this up old men
up against you know, young gohards, young hard bods.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, that that is a fair point. But then there's
also something to you know, we're super old, but we're
still way more powerful than the rest of you.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, Actually, so you can answer that is so out
of these X men, I mean, Stuart and Magneto, they
would be Omega level correct.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, exactly, And I don't think the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
All no, but they don't mention. I feel like halle
Berry is gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, that would be I mean I would love to
see her thrown in the mix. I mean it would
if you're not going to have her in Dead Pol Wolverine,
then like, yeah, this and this is way more meaningful.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
If you have three Omega level mutants, could you defeat
the rest of these Avengers?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Uh? Possibly? It would be really hard, though, I mean
you still have possibly. That's probably the best answer that
I can give you. I probably still put it on
the Avengers just because you have some other geniuses thrown
in the mix, but it's it's possible.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And then also just looking forward to the pairing of
Chris Hamsworth and Tom Hidleston on the screen again.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, that's a good point that one's like Tom Hillston
like returning is kind of thrown under the phone on
the radar for me a little bit. Obviously The X
Men is just I'm so excited about that. But yeah,
that it's great to have those two together again. On
the note of changing team because I know when he
came up before, you were kind of like it seemed
like you were like a little surprise or questioning it
or whatever. I'm all about it. I I I had
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mixed feelings about him at first when I saw him
in Dead Pol Wolverine, because I want a badass Gambit,
but he played the comedic element of Gambit so well.
I'm but I'm still like, very very much stunned. Like
of all the people that are in the mix here,
he's the one that like the how did he enter
the mix with all of these other actors.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Well, there is a deleted scene at the end of
Deadpool that they took out where he sees the big
glowing circleone he jumps in. I would assume that that
is how he gets with this new crew of mutants.
And I feel like I would have preferred, and granted
we say this about every movie now, I would have
liked some surprises when it came to these characters, with
these actors and Channing Tatum, even if he is one
(12:30):
of the stars of the movie, that would have been
a nice surprise.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, I agree. I'm always like, I'm always always feel
that way, Like when we've talked about like you know,
obviously we look at trailers all the time, like for
podcasting and stuff like that, we have to talk about it,
and I'm just like, there's a level of I wish
we got less, like you're you the one that says
it as much as anybody give me less, like I
saw the one thing I don't need any more.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
And I very much agree with We're all going to
the movies, and if even the people that see all
these extra characters in the movies, they're not like, oh,
the red Hulks in this one, I'm gonna go see it,
it doesn't matter anymore. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Everybody's gonna go.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And people I feel like the surprise would also help
in some of like the poor reviews, because it would
at least build up like, oh, out of nowhere, this
red hull popped up, and I'm sorry to keep pointing
at that movie, but like like that would at least
add to like you're building towards something and you get
this payoff that you weren't necessarily fully expecting exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, especially and it may for the critics that may
not do quite as much. I mean, I would the audience,
though it would help the audience exactly exactly. There's other
thing better than a great surprise, like you just have
no clue coming in it totally, all all the math
is there and like you're waiting for in the anticipation,
and then it's like, oh, I don't care about the
rest of it because I got this and it's so cool.
And then it's a movie that maybe was like a
seventy five in your mind and maybe it turned into
(13:45):
an eighty two, and that's not bad.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It's up. Gian Carlo Esposito said, and this is according
to IGN that he wants to play mister Freeze in
the DCU. I am curious, which does he want to
do it with je Guns or does he want to
do it with Robert Pattinson's. I would assume he means
James Guns. I would rather him with Pattinson's, though I.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Completely agree with you, and I think that's that's the
same view, Like he's probably meaning Gun. Whatever he gets,
he gets. But I think, you know, across Battinson, like
that's gonna work really just because he plays serious so
well in the tone that they've established for that corner of,
you know, the DC's future.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I also like the fact that he's kind of getting
back to what he's great at. It seemed like for
a while he was trying to be like, well, I
can also play a good guy. I'm sure you can,
but you're the best at playing bad guys.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah. I watched and the Gentleman recently, if I didn't like,
finished the first season of that, and he's not in
as much, but his on camera presence is just he's
just so in control and you have no way of
trusting him the entire time. He's just he's outstanding in
the villain's role.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And especially for someone like mister Freeze, where it's just
this frozen, cold character. Yeah, he plays that so well.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, he really like in so many ways he would
rock that role. I really appreciate the fact that he
knows how well he would fit that. I don't know
if he came up with that in his own or
if like his agent or somebody said, hey, put this
out there and see what happens. But whoever thought of
that brilliant move?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It is dope. We got two new episodes of Daredevil
Reborn this week. The first one, I'll tell you what,
outside of the one million references to ms Marvel, I
thought that we're bashing us over the head with that
a little bit. I fucking loved the bank robbery episode.
(15:32):
I thought it was perfect, like Saturday Morning cartoon, like
a one off episode. I had so much fun with it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I wish we could get more bottle episodes like this,
like the anthology is necessarily anthologies wouldn't be the right word,
but just a series of bottle episodes. But I feel
like everything that we have to get in Marvel now,
like we hear other guys in the DSGC all the time.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Like it's a continued story, continue story, no, no, you
can take a side quest.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yes, like and I feel like we've gotten some of
that with other stuff, but like they they get committing
to it sometimes as an issue, but we've definitely seen
it in some capacity. I couldn't agree with you more
like I got why you gave us two episodes because
episode six plays to the larger story. But episode five
was like, oh, this is great. That was awesome. Like
I'm like, I was stunn, like you're just gonna give
this this one thing all by itself.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Great Now having said that, episode six fucking ruled.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yes, it did. Absolutely, I'm all here. I'm here for both.
There's no reason you can't have a season of a
show and have it be I feel like they did
it with the animated stuff all the time, where it's
like you have a two episode arcs, you know, a
single episode like one off, one shot, and then you
have like four episodes and then we go we kind
of go from there. That's what we're gonna have here,
as much as it's really eight episodes together in the
one bottle episode, but like, yeah, mix those in.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I also think that this show has really, uh it's
popped out to me more with this show than any
other thing like in the past, because you know, I
don't know about you, but I like to recommend things
to people. I like to recommend movies to people, television
shows to people, And for certain people, hearing the word
superhero movie or comic book show or something like that,
it's a turn off to them. But I feel like
(17:07):
this show and Daredevil in general, is like it's beyond
what those other things are. It's so different to the
point of, like you need sub genres for shows like this.
Should we just call it a visual anti show, like
it's it's so grounded and it has nothing to do
and a little bit to do with powers, but like
really not.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, it really doesn't. I mean, I think describing Daredevil
as a visional anty show is probably the best way
to go about it. But I agree with you, like
when you say, well, my problem that I run into
is when you say superhero genre or comic book movies,
everybody thinks that's one and the same, and they're not
always one and the same. Like another example of that
is like John Constant time, like he's not a superhero,
like he he.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Is gonna bring up Constantine every time he's on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's I mean, that's that's what I'm here for. I
have to hit my quota I was thinking of Hellboy,
but Hellboy is like kind of there's more so the
Perlman hell Boy than the Harbor hell Boy. But it
feels like that that's a kind of.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Both of those comic book slash movie slash shows deals
with like the supernatural, and you can I would almost
And that's the thing too, Like you want to say
that's a sci fi or almost like religious base when
it comes to like the John Constantine stuff, because you're dealing,
but like you need to put those subgenres on there
because so many people now are turned off by the
(18:27):
idea or they just think that all of these things
are the exact same.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah. Well, I mean also the other thing is just
treat it like books. Like there's so many like movies
that I watch and then I find out later that
it's a book. I mean, I see it in the credits,
but it's not part of like the genre. Just say
what the genre is for and if it's superhero, okay,
but for this, call it crime, call it drama, whatever.
You don't need to tell anybody else what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I love this show, I'll say it. I'm not sure
if it's on the path of being a forty Dog Show.
But I've just had such a great time, even with
all the lawyering stuff and yes, what do you have
been disbarred? Maybe he might have stepped out of line,
he might have done some stuff that was would not
be approved of in our great court system. But I
(19:10):
love this show.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I right there with you, and I do think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Fair of the slow build. I love the slow build
as well.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Saying it's not you're not stro forty dog. I think
that's also fair. I feel like for me right now,
it's trending towards thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Maybe that's still a ninety five.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, still, yeah, it's still a long way to go
to It's dope.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
With it's twentieth anniversary coming up and it's re released
into theaters, we are starting to see some popcorn bucket
merch for Revenge of the Sith. We saw a Darth
Vader helmet cup that will be released at Regal theaters,
and we've also seen the popcorn buckets. Is this one
(19:50):
that you need to have?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No, I just wish they'd done a Sarlac pick one.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
They just say, well that would be if they re
release you know, episode six.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I don't care, just have a feel for the moment,
know what you need to do, know your assignment. And
they didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Do you have any popcorn buckets, any theater popcorn buckets?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
No. I thought about getting the Wolverine one, but I didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
The Wolverine One's okay. I still I have the bat
signal one. That it might be too big, though, because
I'm running out of space in my office and I
don't want to eat popcorn out of it because I
don't want to ruin it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
No, you have to like you, No, you have to
have that is a collectible.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
There's Nope. There's a rumor out there that Nick Offerman
could possibly be the voice of Warrio in the upcoming
Mario Brothers movies. Last of Us show runner Craig Mason
thought this idea was brilliant when asked by IGN, saying
that the idea of him bringing Warrior to life has
(20:46):
a lot of potential. He is the right gruffness for
the character, of course, does it quite have the same
voice that we're used to with it? And to me,
Aladio is that what the no warries a little bit? Alatio, right,
that's better? Yeah, Luigi is higher. A lot of HEO
is down here, right.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Wow, you are a true professional. That's in Yes, that
spot on. I agree like that, that's my that's my apprehension.
But you liked Pratt's voice acting for Mario, right?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Not it? Love it. I've loved his voice work in
the past. I thought he was great in the Lego movies.
I didn't care for mn Garfield, but I think that
he gets a bad rap for some of his voiceover stuff.
But he has been great in the past. I think
that putting, especially if you have him voice it like
he is Ron Swanson, that would be a great counter
(21:37):
to the high energy voice of Pratt. And they were
both on Parks and Rec together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Actually I didn't even think about the Parks and rec element.
That's interesting. I felt like going into it with Pratt,
I was like, what are you gonna do here? And yes,
you could still hear.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It's a completely unique voice. It's just his.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, But I'm yeah, So I'm curious what they're gonna
end up doing here because that would be quite the change.
But with Bowser, like you know, we're he doesn't really
talk much.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, but Jack Black rules though. Jack Black, all I
need for the voiceover people in these movies is just
have fun with what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, I think with Nick Offerman, he knows how to
do that when it comes to his acting a herb percent.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
It's so me warrior, just getting like real deep in
his voice, have no accent on it, have nothing on it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You should just do a whole episode just by you
need me here, Just do a whole episode of your impressions.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Everyone like, Oh, is Nick Offerman in the podcast right now? Yeah,
he's sitting right next to me.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Do a whole episode as another actor.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
You know what? I also realized earlier, and maybe I'm
just tardy to the party, but I'm going to assume
that I'm the first person who has ever put this
together that the two biggest uh video game mascots from
the nineties are both voiced by Parks and rec people.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Huh. Yeah, well, I mean I hadn't put that together.
So if I hadn't put it together, then I'm sure
nobody else did.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So I always think of myself as noticing things first
and then you second, So if you or I haven't
done this yet, then no one has.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Exactly. Yeah, that's I wish I had beat you on that,
so maybe I could take that top spot. But I
can't say I can't have to say I'm impressed again.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Stup. We have a release date for the live action
Legend of Zelda movie. It'll be March twenty sixth, twenty
twenty seven. Nothing else has been revealed. I believe it's
gonna be animated, which I think it should be. If
we're going by the voice acting of the other two movies.
Let's assume that Azisanzari will be voicing link.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I thought you're gonna say, Jerry Gerdich. Yeah, I'm excited
for this one. I mean, I love seeing all the
video games start to get there the love because be
clearly we've they've done well when you look at Sonic
and then you look at a super Marlboros, So why not.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
There's nope, be a deadline. Nick Frost is nearing a
deal to play Haggard in the Harry Potter TV series
How do you say his name? Hagrid?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Okay, okay, okay, sorry, I didn't mean to call you
out like that, but he said Haggard and I was like,
wait a second, you're a weird renunciation or something.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Shot the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
This is one of the few cast things that I've
been okay with that. When I saw lyfco for Dumbledore,
I was like, I don't, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I was kind of curd But Lift even told us
that he's gonna be dead by the time the show
is done, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yep, that's this is true. Okay, well get this tun
I'm all right with it. But I know, but Nick Frost,
I do like the casting for this role.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
News Depp captain that I am very excited about. Linda
Cardellini officially will be starring as Pamela Vorhees in A
twenty four's Friday the Thirteenth prequel series.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
So I have no reason to like it or dislike it.
Do you just like it because of you know, the after?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Do you not like Linda Cardellini?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I do, but I'm just trying to think from a
quality of like.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
The raal hashtag my velma.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yes, yes, yes, that's right. Oh, I forgot about I
should know if you know, if you're a big fan
of her acting or if you just think she's pretty.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, I would say that my first when I first,
you know, fell in love with Linda Cardeline, it was
when she was snow lodged Lauren on Boy Meets World,
and she was the girl that Corey should have chose
over to Panga. She had I felt like she would
have allowed Corey to be himself, whereas Topanga was a
little more demanding. And I want to say rained Corey
(25:19):
in when he shouldn't have been rained in.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Wow. You know, my wife and I not too long
or maybe a month ago, finished a rewatch of Boy
Meets World. Yeah, and I I Corey couldn't looked worse
in my mind refter that rewatch, So I totally disagree with.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It if he stayed with Lauren worse.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yes, run wild like the unhinged maniac that he is. Awful,
it's a manchild.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Did you like Eric's progression throughout the show?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Ah? So I have. I have weird feelings about that,
don't you take dude? Because he's so smart at times,
like he goes whatever, he does it every time he
does an outstanding job, Like that's not a critique. It's
more about the writing. He was brilliant.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's definitely the writing. He didn't walk in there like
I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, but like it's just he But every time he
was given a task, he did a great job with it.
But I'm like, this character has so much more to offer,
and we see it in like random glimpses and it's great.
But then it's like, then you just make him like
this complete idiot. I don't know he could do.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You buy into him having a mental breakdown when he
wasn't able to adopt Tommy. Uh, because that was the
breaking point. Season five is when he completely went off
the edge.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Huh, maybe you know I'll have to We're gonna have
to do a rewatch now that we have that understanding that.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
You can even start right around there. I mean, season six,
Eric is my favorite. Eric. He goes a little too
far in season seven, but season six Eric.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
He's great. I still love him. It's just to I
think they could have done even They could have still
made him a wh like a maniac, but also still
made him more brilliant, more frequently.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Did you even know that he wasn't even supposed to
be on the show past season five? Him and Matthew
Lawrence were supposed to have their own spinoff show, really,
but that never came to be, so they just left
him on that show as the.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
B PL no idea.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Jeez, you read a book news up. Could the critic
be returning? Do you even know what the critic is?
I do?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay seeing this news on top of Kelsey Grammar, I'm
just like, is twenty twenty six gonna be the year
of goop?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
John Lovetz posted on X you keep telling me that
you want it back. I've been trying for years. Well
now creator Al Jean is on board. If you want
it back, we need your help. Please like and post
and spread the word so we can show the studio
how many people want it.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Wow, Goo, you just missed. John Lovetz was in the
studio right it out on I guess.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I mean so the critic would work beautifully in this
current landscape of movies, where he would truly believe that
everything stinks.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yes, it would just fit. It's not just the landscape
of movies is also the last television Why people with
television bros. With the way people feel and like respond
movies and social media and everything like that, I'd just
be yes, it would be great for you.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You can have his own podcast exact that's essentially what
we do well exactly. It stinks every single time. I
will say this though, is that if you go back
and watch the critic. I believe that they I want
to say, Shout Factory might have put out some DVDs
and like the two thousands, or you might be able
to find some stuff on YouTube. If you watch it,
(28:34):
it looks like early Family Guy. Like, it looks like
Family Guy took a beat from what they were doing
on the Critic, especially with their cutaway gags.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Interesting, huh. I haven't watched I haven't seen anything of
it in years, so I couldn't tell you. But that
makes sense. I mean, if it was good. I mean,
I mean there's so many times that things just like
die away and then they influence something that's just way better.
So I mean not to say the Critic and Family Guy,
which is better first between the two. But you get
my point.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
There's doubt. I finally saying I finally because it just
came out. But I watched the premiere for the studio
on Apple TV Plus. Did you catch this?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
No? I'm not a big Apple TV guy? How was it?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
The first episode is free, That's how they get you.
I would describe it as Curby r Enthusiasm meets entourage.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Oh wow, okay, is it as unfiltered as as CURB is.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So it's scripted. That's the big difference. Curb is more like,
let's get into a scenario and we'll figure it out.
But it's more of the TV movie higher ups and
how they get their business done. But then you're dealing
with tons and tons and tons of cameos with some
dialogue that I feel like doesn't flow.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, well until the dialogue bit you had me, I
was like, this sounds d.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I don't think it's bad, but I do think it's
very inside baseball.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I don't mind that though. I don't mind that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I don't mind it, but I feel like free comedy now,
like this is what they're doing because all of the
big comedic names have been in Hollywood for so long
that this is what they know. Yeah, they don't connect
to the common man anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, I guess it's a fair point. But to some level,
I guess I don't know. I guess I don't care that,
so I guess maybe I haven't watched as much of that.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Necessarily, I've used my three months of free Apple TV,
plus I've used my seven free days. I'm out of
all that stuff, so I'll be waiting until this is
all available, and maybe I'll pay for a month at
that point, so it is good enough for me to
spend ten dollars and watch some eventually, but not a
week to week need to pay for two or three months.
(30:42):
News dam I'll do it for this episode of news Dump.
Thank you for joining me fry Er on such short notice.
Do you want to plug yourself?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, make sure you listen to the dork Shared Gooniverse
Podcast of the Year for twenty twenty four or on
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and we're also on Blue Sky, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Check us out on all those spots to wherever podcasts
are found. We'll have a podcast next week. I'm not
sure if we'll be doing Death of a Unicorn. Mac
doesn't have to see it. I don't think it's really
worth our time, but if he sees it, we'll talk
about it. We'll see news up
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