December 25, 2023 • 26 mins
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Christmas bonus. Yeah, no themesong, no open We're just gonna jump
right into this because I only haveso much battery life on my camera,
and because it is Christmas, Ifeel like we are giving you a bonus
episode. And if you're saying toyourself, Goo, it's goose day.
This is in a bonus episode,call the bonus police, then I don't
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know what to tell you. Whatare we doing right now? Mac?
I have that's good. So whatwe are doing is once again using tearmaker
dot com. Thank you once againto the other Billy D for setting up
this tier. But we'll be doinga quick Christmas holiday treat tear That's right,
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that's right, you did mention thisto me, Goo, I'm very
excited for the Christmas all right.So on the tier at the bottom is
belongs in the trash Okay, okay. One up from there is try it
once. In the middle I'd stilleat it. Okay, up from there
is yummy. And then at thetop holiday classic. All right, I'm
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only gonna remember both three of those, so I might need some some help
along the way here. And thenonce again new Mac and go rule because
we're just going straight to TikTok nextyear, no more audio podcast is We're
gonna roll on this and then we'llgive you the tear after. Yeah,
that works all right, Max.So the first one up here is I'm
having a difficult time pronouncing it.Is it? Uh? Potone me?
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It's like the pentotone bread. Youknow what I'm talking about? All right,
I guess I'll share the screen realquick, so you know what I'm
talking about. Describe what it lookslike this guy. Oh, I don't
know what that is. Panatone.I don't know what that Yeah, I
h I don't know. I don'tknow what it is. Put in the
put in the trash, good start, good start. One that I have
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never had on Christmas. I've onlyhad when I've gone to Greek restaurants.
Maybe this is just a nationality thinghere, but baklava. I like baklava.
No, we all like baclava.Well, so are you saying so?
Are we searing this the same waywe did the movies? As how
to what degree is I think thisis a hybrid of things that you eat
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around the holiday season, Okay,and then how much you like them?
H I enjoy Bacavaj's yummy to me. It is, But do you eat
it during the holiday season? Notreally. I eat it sporadically throughout the
year. That's a good point.This next one up here is Advent calendar
treats, the stuff that is onthe inside of the Advent calendars when you
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buy them. So I only eatthem, I guess if I were to
eat them around Christmas time, butI they're not yummy. I guess you
try it once because there's only onefor each day. I'll eat it if
it's there. You'll eat it ifit's there. Yeah, so you'd still
eat it if it's there. Soin the middle, sure, would you
say middle or like just below theequator of treats that you'd eat If it's
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on the wall for me to open, I'm gonna eat it. Next one,
not Pierre, is an absolute holidayclassic, one that I only want
to eat during Christmas, only duringthis month of December, and that is
gingerbread cookies. Oh. I likea gingerbread cookie a lot. Yeah,
I'll even So. They opened upa bakery not even a quarter mile maybe
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from my house, a year ortwo ago, and they've got dynamite gingerbread
cookies in there. I really enjoythem, so I eat them more.
I eat them definitely more around Christmas. But those are those what's our top
tier holiday classics? Put them inthere? Do you like it hard or
soft? I like a little bitof a crisp edge, but I like
it chewy. I like it chewy. I agree, And don't sleep on
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gingerbread cake. Oh, I don'tknow if I've had gingerbread cake. Delicious,
delicious. The next one, notPierre, is an absolute classic in
my Italian household, and that isAniset cookies. I hate these, I
absolutely hate them. They are moreprevalent around Christmas. I do not like
these at all. Oh, bythe way, we each get two vetos
in a stamp. I'm stamping thisin holiday classic. Come with that fucking
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garbage? Kidding me? Sne likeblack licorice? Come on, yeah,
the people who like liquorice, theylike licorice. I love Aniset, do
you know? Yeah? All right? I could just gnomb on that all
day. I've never heard you talkabout aniset. We don't talk enough.
Then, how often do we talk? I would how about the uh,
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that stupid orange thing that's chocolate orangeand a chocolate orange. Oh yeah,
I love that. My my grandparentsused to put it in my stocking for
me every year, and I wouldonly eat it around the holidays. That
is a holiday classic stamped. Wow, good move, because I would have
moved it right down. I hatethese things. Oh they're delicious. You
don't like a chocolate orange, No, I like a chocolate and you like
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aniset. I love aniset. Preposterous. All right, So go on Twitter
right now, Team Aniset, Teamchocolate orange. Hey Mac. The next
one up here, I think wecan just start in the trash, and
that is fruitcake. I don't knowif I've agver actually taken a bite of
one. It's been on the table, it's been an option. People have
brought it. I don't know ifi've agbar actually tried it. So yeah,
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trash. Yeah, and I don'tthink I ever want to try it.
I don't think I ever will tryit because there's always something else you
like. You've never gone to ahouse and there's just fruitcakes. I'll take
the anisec cookie over the over thefruitcake. I would take the chocolate orange
and throw it in the trash andthen have some of this. But trash
it up a little bit, rubit on the trash than my chocolate orange,
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like I like my women. Okay, this next one up here,
what would you call this? Wouldyou call this some kind of like a
layered cool whip pie. I needto I need help with this. Oh,
it's like a it's like a truffletype thing. Yeah, lay layered
with fruit. Yeah, it's decent. Yeah, I don't love it.
It's fine, It's okay. Iwould call it yummy. I'd eat it.
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Yeah, i'd eat it. I'deat it. How about ribbon candy?
Uh? Is it yummy? Itmight be yummy. I don't like
the texture. Yeah, the texturecould throw people off. I'd understand that
I need it. I need it. I'd try it once. I'd put
it a tier above that, putit into Okay, we'll put it in
there. We'll talk about it later. I'd eat it above it. So
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it's holiday classics yummy. Yeah,I'd still eat it. Try it once.
Yeah, but like the trash,Okay, i'd go I'd still eat
it. Next one up here isa bag of life savers. They have
you ever see Holiday lifesavers, theHoliday Lifesavers, the Green story Book,
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the sweet storybook Lifesavers. Yeah,these are good. I always and it's
five to each side of the book. I enjoy these. These are yummy.
I have no idea what these are. Can you describe it to me?
You it's a it's a cardboard boxthat's folded like a book and you
open it, so it's two sidesand each side has like four or five
packs of life savers. So it'san advent calendar somewhat, Yeah, somewhat,
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but they're yummier than an advent calendar. The next one up here,
I think is better in cookie form, but I definitely still eat it.
And that is a gingerbread house.It's a lot more work. And this
is what they the gingerbread house.They tell you it's edible, but it's
not really. They make that morelike cardboard than anything else. So it's
sturdy, it's definitely. It's alot harder, it's a lot thicker.
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You're not getting any of those softpoints. Yeah. They also might have
been all manufactured in nineteen seventy twoand they're still just out there every year.
I don't I one time, maybei'd still eat it like I had
it yummy for a second because Ido love that gingerbread taste, but you
don't really get it in that andit's too thick and too hard. Yeah,
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yeah, I guess i'd eat it. That's a good middle. Yeah.
Cherry pie cheese. It's not nearlymy favorite of the of the pies,
but I definitely eat it. Isthat the Christmas pie is cherry pie.
The Christmas pie, I don't know. I'll have to take inventory a
Christmas. I feel like Thanksgiving isblueberry dominant, if that If that rings
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true with you. Do you livein the name pumpkin pie? Do you
live in Maine? You get yourpumpkin pies? Sometimes you get a Boston
craps. Giving is more of apumpkin and apple. Oh apple pies there
too, Oh apple pies. Christmasthough, too. Apple pie is every
season, but I wouldn't have ithere. Blueberry, Thanksgiving, cherry Christmas.
Cherry is Christmas just because it's it'sa red. So give me a
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nice cherry and key lime pie.To the flavors mix, I don't know,
but it's red and green. Howabout the reces candies that are shaped
like trees. I'll let you speakabout these because you've been on about the
the non traditional REases for years.It's a better chocolate to peanut butter ratio.
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And I also believe that the peanutbutter that is inside of the trees,
the pumpkins, the eggs, youknow, Easter, Halloween, it
tastes fresher, it tastes better.And this is a holiday classic. The
only thing I'll say is, atat some point, and I don't know
if the trees get there, sometimesthere is too much peanut butter for chocolate.
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There needs to be a good ratio. But in general these are better
than the cups. I agree.I need your help once again. What
is this some kind of a s'more? Oh yeah, looks like a s'mores
cake cookie type of situation. Thatlooks still, it looks good. It
looks good. I don't know ifI've ever had that. But also we
don't know if it's something else.Maybe we don't know what it is.
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It looks yummy enough, let's putit in yummy. Let's put it in
yummy. But also if it's somethinggross, we're not sticking to it.
Hershey kisses, Hershey kisses with thegreen, silver, red, And I
feel like this is only something thecandy cane tube. Yeah, this is
something where like if someone has itout at their house, like as you're
walking out the door, you'll takelike one or two and leave right Yeah.
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Or if you're like sitting waiting fordinner or something or whatever and there's
a bowl of tea. These also, these never feel fresh, right.
Yeah, They're harder than they shouldbe, so I guess they'll eat them
if they're there. That's not atear. Why do you keep saying that.
I thought that's what's the tear.I'd still eat it. I'd still
eat it. Maybe we should havechanged it till I'll eat it if it's
there, because I don't. Ican't think back to the last time that
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I had a freeze. That's whatI'm thinking. How about Christmas cookies with
frosting? Don't care for them,Honestly, I don't care for many cookies
with frosting. I like the cookieto just be what it is. I
want the cookie to be evaluated onwhat makes the cookie a cookie. I
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don't want the extra stuff on top. I'll tell you what. I prefer
just the plain sugar cookie on itsown. I don't like frosting on anything.
I agree with you wholeheart. It'swhat makes us similar that makes us
great, but also what makes usdifferent that makes us great. Give me
the sugar cookie with the pattern bakedinto it, whether it's a tree,
an alfa bell, whatever it is, give me those so I'm gonna say
yummy. But keep in mind it'dbe higher if it was just the cookie.
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I'm not if they got frosting,I'm not eating them. I'll still
eat them. It's Christmas time.I'm gonna eat everything you need them after
a night. Oh, by theway, I'm gonna eat all this stuff.
I'm gonna eat all this stuff allright. Candy canes, peppermint or
the sugary ones. Oh you knowwhat I love and it's not on here,
but I love cherry candy canes likethe fruit. Those are fantastic.
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They're way better than a peppermint candycane, for sure. Peppermint candy,
I guess, would be a stepbelow the hershey kiss of Like, if
you're leaving someone's house and they havea bowl of candy canes out and you're
like, oh, I want somethingfor the car ride, I get an
oddly satisfying feeling out of smashing thecandy cane, but keep still keeping it
in its wrapper, and then youcan rattle it around, you know.
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I also like when when you suckon it just so I turned night out
and and it becomes pointy, andthen you can stab someone with it.
It becomes a weapon for sure.In on that as well. How many
times has a kid you told menot to stab your sister and you always
test it on your finger and ah, oh it's ready. Help me out.
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What is this? Oh it doesright here? Magic bars? What's
a magic bar? Oh? That? Yeah, So my cousin actually makes
them. They are incredibly sweet insugary. You could have like one and
you've eaten two thousand calories. Sotry it one there. They're good.
They're borderline yummy. Is it?I'd still eat it? Is it?
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Try it once? Because you canonly have one. There it is.
That's the category right there. Howabout eggnog? I don't like it good.
I don't don't like it eggnog,I don't enjoy it. Some of
it is the consistency of it.The flavor's okay, but every time,
like you mix it with rum,I don't really like rum either. Everything's
surrounding Eggnog's not form okay on theholidays. If I am drinking alcohol,
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I need it to be mixed withsomething that is not unbelievably thick and more
caloric than what I'm eating and frothy. Yeah, give me just a straight
doctor McGill cutty is or just anythinglike a vodka soda or something like that,
like something, but I think Christmas. I think vodka soda. What
what drink would you associate with Christmas? That's a good question on its own.
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I guess an egg dog drink,but I don't want it. Well,
think of another drink that you drinkduring Christmas? Uh, you know
what? Something maybe Kolua based,but then that's kind of like a white
Russian But that's like the same thing. Yeah, it's in the same room
for sure. Mac. The nextone up here is I think the best
of the holiday shaped candies. Ithink it's better than the reces. And
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that is the Snickers. Oh.I love a Snickers, but Snickers shape
like a tree. They make those. I didn't even know they fucking made
them. Go to Target right now, turn off the podcast and go all
right, Yeah, I put itat the top. I will tell you
right now, like this is Ilove Snickers in general, but the way
that this is spread out, thecaramel taste better in it, the neugat
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tastes better in it. I don'tknow what it is. This is.
I love these. These are myfavorite holiday candies. I just love your
your theories on the holiday themed candies. You could. You could write a
dissertation. It's fresh, it's spreadout differently, it might even be stacked
differently inside the candy. I don'teven feel Layers is even truiest Snickers at
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that point. Oh my god,it's so good. So right now,
Snickers is number two behind it,behind the gingerbread cookie. Yeah okay,
and then I have the Aniset cookiesand the chocolate orange all right. That's
a It's a mount rushmore if I'veever seen one. The next one up
here is cheesecake. Cheesecake. Oh, I do like it. I guess
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any kind of cheesecake. I dolike cheesecake, and I only eat cheesecake
at holidays. I never go tothe cheesecake factory. By the way,
cheesecake factories menu entirely too large.It's like fucking three hundred things eat is
like seven things. If it's notin forty eight characters, I'm not going
to read it. So cheesecake isat least yummy, but it might be
at the top. I'll put itin yummy. I'll put it above life
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savers. I'll put it above baklava, boclavas in it pushed to the bottom
of the yummy though, because Idon't know if I would put that with
Christmas. I mean, that's fair. Whatever the the whatever sauce that they
use in the baclava that like getstry Yeah it is it, honey.
I think it's more like a sweethoney something like that. It's kind of
bullshit and kind of racist. Isthat Billy didn't put seven fishes on this?
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I'd put that at the bottom.I've actually never had it, Yeah,
thank god, and I never will, thank God. You know what
I have had pizzell m that nextup. Is that a transition right there?
It is? But also I don'tknow if I have these on Christmas?
Oh yeah, in snowflake for yeah, okay, you know what,
Yeah, you just convinced me becauseyou you know, said something that resonates
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Christmas with me. Snowflakes. Ilike these more than the aniset. Sometimes
you get Pizzelli's with it, youknow what I know. I said Snickers
is the best of the holiday themedcandies, but Ferrero Roche might be it.
M hmm, it's chocolate hazel not. This candy is so fancy that
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people will give it as there's crispson the inside. Yeah, I like
the little crisps. And I alsoI only eat these during Christmas. I'm
gonna move different. I only havethe one flavor though I only want the
original one. Yeah, I'm gonnaput it just below gingerbread. Man.
I think this because this also screamsChristmas and also screams class. It screams
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class. Like when you go tosomeone's house and you see these out,
you're like, whoa they brought thewhere is your vault with all of your
gold chains and coin? The nextthing you know, they'll be great poupon,
Oh my goodness. I also Ilike to eat the outer chocolate first
and then the crispy and then theinside. No, I just dive in.
That's too much, it's too full. Ball. Next one up here
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is no, these are sugar cookies. And what was the other one?
Billy, Well, you had sugarcookies with icing on them, I think
is what we were talking about.This is also with icing, and this
one even says sugar cookies on it. Let me show you. Look at
this. What's this? It's sugarcookies on it? So what scroll up
a little bit show me the otherones. The other one was this like
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a softer one. Those are likethe harder cookies. I think these are
the ones that you would buy.Those are like a short bread. That's
a short bread. You would buythese at stop and shop. I do
like a short bread cookie. Butneither of these are better with icing.
So I'm gonna put sugar cookie abovethat, though, I'm gonna put it
above that s'mores thing because I don'teven know what that is. No,
put the smorest thing above it.You've never even had it. You're blindly
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eating this. It looks more promisingthan those two cookies. The next one
up here is red and green Mand ms. Oh, like, oh
okay, this is once again again. These are out in the bowl sitting
in the middle of the table,and also when you buy them, they're
fresher. We all know this walkedus many of times. These are the
same as that's like, and notto tell more stories about my family here,
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but one time my mother noticed thatthere was a bowl of uh,
you know, softer toned eminem solike the colors, but they were more
like a pastel. And she assumedthat these were Easter Eminem's. And then
she's like, wait, we're notnear the Eastern time. She you know,
looks at my brother and she goes, hey, why are these like
this? And he was, oh, I dropped them all all on the
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floor and I washed them. Sohe likes Eminem's, or liked Eminem's so
much that he couldn't throw them out. He had to save them, picked
them all up, put them allon the colander, and then sipved them.
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That brownies, they don't really feelchristmasy to me. No, but
I will say that brownies do youlike like my mom makes them where she'll
put like some kind of like aminty like, you know, something on
top to make a little more christmasy. I just want them to have nuts
on them. No, I don'twant to. I just want a brownie.
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And I don't like the fudge brownieseither. I just want a brownie
to be a brownie, Like Isaid, with the gingerbread cookie. I
want a tat of crispness but thenmostly soft. I want brownie with walnuts
on top, and then I wantto take it. I want to take
three of them and just put theminto a cup of milk and then have
a spoon and just scoop them out. Nothing is better than a brownie at
the bottom of an ice cream Sunday. Or milk. Have you ever had
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milk before? I mean, Isuggest milk. I have. I have
tried milk. Yep, your favorite, your favorite percentage of milk. We're
really big on whole milk right now. I was a whole milk child.
I'm gonna tell me that twice.I'm a skim milk guy because I guess
that's what they make the flavored milksout of him. So, yeah,
all right. Hot chocolate, I'djust don't like hot beverages, hot cider,
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hot chocolates, not for me,hot coffee I don't even drink.
I'm gonna put it in Yummy.I would have put it into holiday classics.
I only have hot chocolate in December. Yeah, with marshmallows. Marshmallows
if I'm putting up my tree,So I guess November. If i'm you
know, Christmas Day, I mighthave some, but that's it. And
I will also say that I alsoonly get it from Creighton Barrel. Talk
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about hoity toity goo over here.You've also had the same hot chocolate for
fifteen years. You go, youuse one pack of a year. No,
no, no, we get it'sa big cylinder. I pay fifty
dollars for it. It takes fivescoops of the chocolate in there and then
you mix some milk. Oh,you don't have the packets. No no,
we do really hot common Come onwith it. I eat buy the
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Swiss peril. You buy the SwissMess. It stays in your cabinet for
fifteen years, and use one packeta year. Get that swist mess out
of my face. Bread pudding.I like bread pudding a lot. It's
never available at my home the dropof all time from you right there.
I like bread pudding a lot.Vanilla pudding is the best pudding. Yeah,
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that's neither here nor so what doyou want? Like? Yummy?
What are you thinking? Yeah,it's yummy. It's okay. I'll put
it below brownies. Think you Oh, how about those cookies with the Hershey
kiss in the middle, and hedidn't put this on here, but I
guess we'll do the reseas one aswell, like the little peanut butter cup
in the middle. Too much goingon for me. I don't love these
cookies. I'll eat them. I'lleat them. I'll eat them too.
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I do like the peanut butter cupin the middle over the kiss that's usually
a peanut butter cookie. I wouldalso I would dig it if the Hershey
kiss is like nice and warm andthen it spreads out over the cookie a
little bit. Well, that's Idon't like the tip of the kiss kind
of bite getting into your bite.I want a flat kiss. And finally,
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chocolate shaped like Santa Claus. Thesestink. They are terrible, hollow,
non hollow, whatever type you get, they're horrible and like, you
don't know how oldies are. Thesearen't made fresh every year. These aren't
making them forty years ago. They'restill available. Yeah, and then you
open it up and it's all youknow, it's not even shaped like Santa
Claus anymore. And it's gray likefucking Brended's M and M's all right,
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I'm gonna share the screen. Letme know what you think. Oh,
that's not bad, that's a somewhatappeasing Do I have to move things around
it all though? So our holidayclassics are gingerbread cookies, yes, Ferrera
rochets, snicker trees, Aniset cookies, chocolate orange, Reese's trees, Pizzelli,
and red and green Eminem's. I'mokay with that too. And that's
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of any flavor. By the way, it could be peanut, it can
be almond, it can be peanutbutter, it can be crisps. You're
talking m and ms. Oh yeah, yeah, I would prefer peanut m
and ms, but I don't thinkthey make those. I will eat any
M and M of any kind.In Yummy, We've got hot chocolate cheesecake
the Lifesaver book, which I wouldactually I'm gonna put that up to holiday
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classics. Okay, I'll let youleave it there. I'm okay with that.
I also don't know what this is, so yeah, I think you
would enjoy it. I think youwould like it's a nice little treat.
And then we got these s'mores typethings that look really intriguing, but the
either of us have had them.Two types of cookies here maybe a shortbread
with icing and also sugar cookie withicing. Those aren't yummy to me.
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Those aren't yummy to If you movethem, I'm gonna move them back.
Actually, let's move the shortbread down. I don't like the shortbread as much,
okay, all right, put ittowards the top, though, I
don't think they're far off from eachother. But the sugar I would keep
in this, okay. And thenwe have baclava, which I'm good with.
Yummy, although you do braise agood point. Maybe, like in
the Armenian and Greek households, theyeat it more on the holiday. I
don't know. Should we do thislist for January sixth? And I'm talking
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about Armenian Christmas? Guys, Ithought you were going a different route there.
That's where the podcast is going,guys. Next to all red items
twenty twenty four, that's what we'regonna start talking about. And then brownies
and bread putting the clothes out.The yummy that's fine, I'd still eat
it. We have the gingerbread house. It doesn't feel right there, but
I I guess if you're building it, you're gonna eat it. You got
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that shortbread cookie what's after the shortbreadcookie there? I can't really so it
was a scratch ticket for a second. But the is an advent calendar that's
yeah, I guess belongs there.Then you have this like cool whip truffle
type of thing, cool whip andberries and whatnot. That's fine. Yeah,
ribbon candies, which I like moreover you, but I'm fine with
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it. In this category, youhave the Hirshey kisses, and then you
have the peanut butter cookies with theHirshey Kisses on top, which I suppose
we'd still eat if they were there. And then we have the try it
once category. We get the magicbars, which are incredibly sugary, and
sweet cherry pie, which probably shouldgo higher. You probably you could,
you would have more than one sliceof cherry pie. I don't want cherry
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pie though. True. When you'retalking when you're talking pies, it's it's
it's in the middle of Christmas ingeneral, you know, like I'm looking
for that cherry pie, you knowwhat I in this. Sometimes you run
into this with some apple pies too. If it's too chunky, it falls
apart quick. The size of thechunk matters and cherry pie always falls apart.
We got peppermint candy canes again.We would prefer the sweeter ones and
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belongs to the trash. We havechocolate Santa Easy trash. Eggnog no,
thank you. We have what isthis cake again? Panatone, which maybe
we're just missing the mark on this. It looks like boxed bread. No,
I don't think raisins in bread.Yeah, I don't know. And
then fruitcake down here as well,Panatonie looks like a better version of a
fruitcake. Out of all these,do you think is the most polarizing?
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Would you say? Eggnog? Thatare the aniset cookies? It's one of
those two. Okay, I fallon the Aniset. So yeah, I
feel good about our list. Let'sdrop that I felt better about the holiday
movies Christmas movies list than I doabout this. But that's fine. And
speaking of Christmas, it's the endof this episode, so may I just
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say, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, Happy holidays? Yes, what's what's
the uh? What are the otherthe ones are over all? Right?
Quans is over right? No,quans is just starting? Is over?
Yah? Boxing Day is tomorrow?Okay? Happy all of those things to
Happy holidays to everyone out there fromMac and Goo, Yeah credit to us.
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Check us out at the end ofthe week for a news dump,
and then maybe next week I wantto do the Mac and Go Awards.
All right, we have to haveseen certain things by then. I've seen
forty movies. I'm a forty three, so maybe we're ready for it.
I guess you're better than me bythree've bye bye,
Christmas bonus. Yeah, no themesong, no open We're just gonna jump
right into this because I only haveso much battery life on my camera,
and because it is Christmas, Ifeel like we are giving you a bonus
episode. And if you're saying toyourself, Goo, it's goose day.
This is in a bonus episode,call the bonus police, then I don't
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know what to tell you. Whatare we doing right now? Mac?
I have that's good. So whatwe are doing is once again using tearmaker
dot com. Thank you once againto the other Billy D for setting up
this tier. But we'll be doinga quick Christmas holiday treat tear That's right,
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that's right, you did mention thisto me, Goo, I'm very
excited for the Christmas all right.So on the tier at the bottom is
belongs in the trash Okay, okay. One up from there is try it
once. In the middle I'd stilleat it. Okay, up from there
is yummy. And then at thetop holiday classic. All right, I'm
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only gonna remember both three of those, so I might need some some help
along the way here. And thenonce again new Mac and go rule because
we're just going straight to TikTok nextyear, no more audio podcast is We're
gonna roll on this and then we'llgive you the tear after. Yeah,
that works all right, Max.So the first one up here is I'm
having a difficult time pronouncing it.Is it? Uh? Potone me?
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It's like the pentotone bread. Youknow what I'm talking about? All right,
I guess I'll share the screen realquick, so you know what I'm
talking about. Describe what it lookslike this guy. Oh, I don't
know what that is. Panatone.I don't know what that Yeah, I
h I don't know. I don'tknow what it is. Put in the
put in the trash, good start, good start. One that I have
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never had on Christmas. I've onlyhad when I've gone to Greek restaurants.
Maybe this is just a nationality thinghere, but baklava. I like baklava.
No, we all like baclava.Well, so are you saying so?
Are we searing this the same waywe did the movies? As how
to what degree is I think thisis a hybrid of things that you eat
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around the holiday season, Okay,and then how much you like them?
H I enjoy Bacavaj's yummy to me. It is, But do you eat
it during the holiday season? Notreally. I eat it sporadically throughout the
year. That's a good point.This next one up here is Advent calendar
treats, the stuff that is onthe inside of the Advent calendars when you
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buy them. So I only eatthem, I guess if I were to
eat them around Christmas time, butI they're not yummy. I guess you
try it once because there's only onefor each day. I'll eat it if
it's there. You'll eat it ifit's there. Yeah, so you'd still
eat it if it's there. Soin the middle, sure, would you
say middle or like just below theequator of treats that you'd eat If it's
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on the wall for me to open, I'm gonna eat it. Next one,
not Pierre, is an absolute holidayclassic, one that I only want
to eat during Christmas, only duringthis month of December, and that is
gingerbread cookies. Oh. I likea gingerbread cookie a lot. Yeah,
I'll even So. They opened upa bakery not even a quarter mile maybe
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from my house, a year ortwo ago, and they've got dynamite gingerbread
cookies in there. I really enjoythem, so I eat them more.
I eat them definitely more around Christmas. But those are those what's our top
tier holiday classics? Put them inthere? Do you like it hard or
soft? I like a little bitof a crisp edge, but I like
it chewy. I like it chewy. I agree, And don't sleep on
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gingerbread cake. Oh, I don'tknow if I've had gingerbread cake. Delicious,
delicious. The next one, notPierre, is an absolute classic in
my Italian household, and that isAniset cookies. I hate these, I
absolutely hate them. They are moreprevalent around Christmas. I do not like
these at all. Oh, bythe way, we each get two vetos
in a stamp. I'm stamping thisin holiday classic. Come with that fucking
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garbage? Kidding me? Sne likeblack licorice? Come on, yeah,
the people who like liquorice, theylike licorice. I love Aniset, do
you know? Yeah? All right? I could just gnomb on that all
day. I've never heard you talkabout aniset. We don't talk enough.
Then, how often do we talk? I would how about the uh,
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that stupid orange thing that's chocolate orangeand a chocolate orange. Oh yeah,
I love that. My my grandparentsused to put it in my stocking for
me every year, and I wouldonly eat it around the holidays. That
is a holiday classic stamped. Wow, good move, because I would have
moved it right down. I hatethese things. Oh they're delicious. You
don't like a chocolate orange, No, I like a chocolate and you like
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aniset. I love aniset. Preposterous. All right, So go on Twitter
right now, Team Aniset, Teamchocolate orange. Hey Mac. The next
one up here, I think wecan just start in the trash, and
that is fruitcake. I don't knowif I've agver actually taken a bite of
one. It's been on the table, it's been an option. People have
brought it. I don't know ifi've agbar actually tried it. So yeah,
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trash. Yeah, and I don'tthink I ever want to try it.
I don't think I ever will tryit because there's always something else you
like. You've never gone to ahouse and there's just fruitcakes. I'll take
the anisec cookie over the over thefruitcake. I would take the chocolate orange
and throw it in the trash andthen have some of this. But trash
it up a little bit, rubit on the trash than my chocolate orange,
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like I like my women. Okay, this next one up here,
what would you call this? Wouldyou call this some kind of like a
layered cool whip pie. I needto I need help with this. Oh,
it's like a it's like a truffletype thing. Yeah, lay layered
with fruit. Yeah, it's decent. Yeah, I don't love it.
It's fine, It's okay. Iwould call it yummy. I'd eat it.
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Yeah, i'd eat it. I'deat it. How about ribbon candy?
Uh? Is it yummy? Itmight be yummy. I don't like
the texture. Yeah, the texturecould throw people off. I'd understand that
I need it. I need it. I'd try it once. I'd put
it a tier above that, putit into Okay, we'll put it in
there. We'll talk about it later. I'd eat it above it. So
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it's holiday classics yummy. Yeah,I'd still eat it. Try it once.
Yeah, but like the trash,Okay, i'd go I'd still eat
it. Next one up here isa bag of life savers. They have
you ever see Holiday lifesavers, theHoliday Lifesavers, the Green story Book,
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the sweet storybook Lifesavers. Yeah,these are good. I always and it's
five to each side of the book. I enjoy these. These are yummy.
I have no idea what these are. Can you describe it to me?
You it's a it's a cardboard boxthat's folded like a book and you
open it, so it's two sidesand each side has like four or five
packs of life savers. So it'san advent calendar somewhat, Yeah, somewhat,
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but they're yummier than an advent calendar. The next one up here,
I think is better in cookie form, but I definitely still eat it.
And that is a gingerbread house.It's a lot more work. And this
is what they the gingerbread house.They tell you it's edible, but it's
not really. They make that morelike cardboard than anything else. So it's
sturdy, it's definitely. It's alot harder, it's a lot thicker.
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You're not getting any of those softpoints. Yeah. They also might have
been all manufactured in nineteen seventy twoand they're still just out there every year.
I don't I one time, maybei'd still eat it like I had
it yummy for a second because Ido love that gingerbread taste, but you
don't really get it in that andit's too thick and too hard. Yeah,
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yeah, I guess i'd eat it. That's a good middle. Yeah.
Cherry pie cheese. It's not nearlymy favorite of the of the pies,
but I definitely eat it. Isthat the Christmas pie is cherry pie.
The Christmas pie, I don't know. I'll have to take inventory a
Christmas. I feel like Thanksgiving isblueberry dominant, if that If that rings
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true with you. Do you livein the name pumpkin pie? Do you
live in Maine? You get yourpumpkin pies? Sometimes you get a Boston
craps. Giving is more of apumpkin and apple. Oh apple pies there
too, Oh apple pies. Christmasthough, too. Apple pie is every
season, but I wouldn't have ithere. Blueberry, Thanksgiving, cherry Christmas.
Cherry is Christmas just because it's it'sa red. So give me a
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nice cherry and key lime pie.To the flavors mix, I don't know,
but it's red and green. Howabout the reces candies that are shaped
like trees. I'll let you speakabout these because you've been on about the
the non traditional REases for years.It's a better chocolate to peanut butter ratio.
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And I also believe that the peanutbutter that is inside of the trees,
the pumpkins, the eggs, youknow, Easter, Halloween, it
tastes fresher, it tastes better.And this is a holiday classic. The
only thing I'll say is, atat some point, and I don't know
if the trees get there, sometimesthere is too much peanut butter for chocolate.
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There needs to be a good ratio. But in general these are better
than the cups. I agree.I need your help once again. What
is this some kind of a s'more? Oh yeah, looks like a s'mores
cake cookie type of situation. Thatlooks still, it looks good. It
looks good. I don't know ifI've ever had that. But also we
don't know if it's something else.Maybe we don't know what it is.
(09:30):
It looks yummy enough, let's putit in yummy. Let's put it in
yummy. But also if it's somethinggross, we're not sticking to it.
Hershey kisses, Hershey kisses with thegreen, silver, red, And I
feel like this is only something thecandy cane tube. Yeah, this is
something where like if someone has itout at their house, like as you're
walking out the door, you'll takelike one or two and leave right Yeah.
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Or if you're like sitting waiting fordinner or something or whatever and there's
a bowl of tea. These also, these never feel fresh, right.
Yeah, They're harder than they shouldbe, so I guess they'll eat them
if they're there. That's not atear. Why do you keep saying that.
I thought that's what's the tear.I'd still eat it. I'd still
eat it. Maybe we should havechanged it till I'll eat it if it's
there, because I don't. Ican't think back to the last time that
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I had a freeze. That's whatI'm thinking. How about Christmas cookies with
frosting? Don't care for them,Honestly, I don't care for many cookies
with frosting. I like the cookieto just be what it is. I
want the cookie to be evaluated onwhat makes the cookie a cookie. I
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don't want the extra stuff on top. I'll tell you what. I prefer
just the plain sugar cookie on itsown. I don't like frosting on anything.
I agree with you wholeheart. It'swhat makes us similar that makes us
great, but also what makes usdifferent that makes us great. Give me
the sugar cookie with the pattern bakedinto it, whether it's a tree,
an alfa bell, whatever it is, give me those so I'm gonna say
yummy. But keep in mind it'dbe higher if it was just the cookie.
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I'm not if they got frosting,I'm not eating them. I'll still
eat them. It's Christmas time.I'm gonna eat everything you need them after
a night. Oh, by theway, I'm gonna eat all this stuff.
I'm gonna eat all this stuff allright. Candy canes, peppermint or
the sugary ones. Oh you knowwhat I love and it's not on here,
but I love cherry candy canes likethe fruit. Those are fantastic.
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They're way better than a peppermint candycane, for sure. Peppermint candy,
I guess, would be a stepbelow the hershey kiss of Like, if
you're leaving someone's house and they havea bowl of candy canes out and you're
like, oh, I want somethingfor the car ride, I get an
oddly satisfying feeling out of smashing thecandy cane, but keep still keeping it
in its wrapper, and then youcan rattle it around, you know.
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I also like when when you suckon it just so I turned night out
and and it becomes pointy, andthen you can stab someone with it.
It becomes a weapon for sure.In on that as well. How many
times has a kid you told menot to stab your sister and you always
test it on your finger and ah, oh it's ready. Help me out.
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What is this? Oh it doesright here? Magic bars? What's
a magic bar? Oh? That? Yeah, So my cousin actually makes
them. They are incredibly sweet insugary. You could have like one and
you've eaten two thousand calories. Sotry it one there. They're good.
They're borderline yummy. Is it?I'd still eat it? Is it?
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Try it once? Because you canonly have one. There it is.
That's the category right there. Howabout eggnog? I don't like it good.
I don't don't like it eggnog,I don't enjoy it. Some of
it is the consistency of it.The flavor's okay, but every time,
like you mix it with rum,I don't really like rum either. Everything's
surrounding Eggnog's not form okay on theholidays. If I am drinking alcohol,
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I need it to be mixed withsomething that is not unbelievably thick and more
caloric than what I'm eating and frothy. Yeah, give me just a straight
doctor McGill cutty is or just anythinglike a vodka soda or something like that,
like something, but I think Christmas. I think vodka soda. What
what drink would you associate with Christmas? That's a good question on its own.
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I guess an egg dog drink,but I don't want it. Well,
think of another drink that you drinkduring Christmas? Uh, you know
what? Something maybe Kolua based,but then that's kind of like a white
Russian But that's like the same thing. Yeah, it's in the same room
for sure. Mac. The nextone up here is I think the best
of the holiday shaped candies. Ithink it's better than the reces. And
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that is the Snickers. Oh.I love a Snickers, but Snickers shape
like a tree. They make those. I didn't even know they fucking made
them. Go to Target right now, turn off the podcast and go all
right, Yeah, I put itat the top. I will tell you
right now, like this is Ilove Snickers in general, but the way
that this is spread out, thecaramel taste better in it, the neugat
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tastes better in it. I don'tknow what it is. This is.
I love these. These are myfavorite holiday candies. I just love your
your theories on the holiday themed candies. You could. You could write a
dissertation. It's fresh, it's spreadout differently, it might even be stacked
differently inside the candy. I don'teven feel Layers is even truiest Snickers at
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that point. Oh my god,it's so good. So right now,
Snickers is number two behind it,behind the gingerbread cookie. Yeah okay,
and then I have the Aniset cookiesand the chocolate orange all right. That's
a It's a mount rushmore if I'veever seen one. The next one up
here is cheesecake. Cheesecake. Oh, I do like it. I guess
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any kind of cheesecake. I dolike cheesecake, and I only eat cheesecake
at holidays. I never go tothe cheesecake factory. By the way,
cheesecake factories menu entirely too large.It's like fucking three hundred things eat is
like seven things. If it's notin forty eight characters, I'm not going
to read it. So cheesecake isat least yummy, but it might be
at the top. I'll put itin yummy. I'll put it above life
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savers. I'll put it above baklava, boclavas in it pushed to the bottom
of the yummy though, because Idon't know if I would put that with
Christmas. I mean, that's fair. Whatever the the whatever sauce that they
use in the baclava that like getstry Yeah it is it, honey.
I think it's more like a sweethoney something like that. It's kind of
bullshit and kind of racist. Isthat Billy didn't put seven fishes on this?
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I'd put that at the bottom.I've actually never had it, Yeah,
thank god, and I never will, thank God. You know what
I have had pizzell m that nextup. Is that a transition right there?
It is? But also I don'tknow if I have these on Christmas?
Oh yeah, in snowflake for yeah, okay, you know what,
Yeah, you just convinced me becauseyou you know, said something that resonates
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Christmas with me. Snowflakes. Ilike these more than the aniset. Sometimes
you get Pizzelli's with it, youknow what I know. I said Snickers
is the best of the holiday themedcandies, but Ferrero Roche might be it.
M hmm, it's chocolate hazel not. This candy is so fancy that
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people will give it as there's crispson the inside. Yeah, I like
the little crisps. And I alsoI only eat these during Christmas. I'm
gonna move different. I only havethe one flavor though I only want the
original one. Yeah, I'm gonnaput it just below gingerbread. Man.
I think this because this also screamsChristmas and also screams class. It screams
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class. Like when you go tosomeone's house and you see these out,
you're like, whoa they brought thewhere is your vault with all of your
gold chains and coin? The nextthing you know, they'll be great poupon,
Oh my goodness. I also Ilike to eat the outer chocolate first
and then the crispy and then theinside. No, I just dive in.
That's too much, it's too full. Ball. Next one up here
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is no, these are sugar cookies. And what was the other one?
Billy, Well, you had sugarcookies with icing on them, I think
is what we were talking about.This is also with icing, and this
one even says sugar cookies on it. Let me show you. Look at
this. What's this? It's sugarcookies on it? So what scroll up
a little bit show me the otherones. The other one was this like
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a softer one. Those are likethe harder cookies. I think these are
the ones that you would buy.Those are like a short bread. That's
a short bread. You would buythese at stop and shop. I do
like a short bread cookie. Butneither of these are better with icing.
So I'm gonna put sugar cookie abovethat, though, I'm gonna put it
above that s'mores thing because I don'teven know what that is. No,
put the smorest thing above it.You've never even had it. You're blindly
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eating this. It looks more promisingthan those two cookies. The next one
up here is red and green Mand ms. Oh, like, oh
okay, this is once again again. These are out in the bowl sitting
in the middle of the table,and also when you buy them, they're
fresher. We all know this walkedus many of times. These are the
same as that's like, and notto tell more stories about my family here,
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but one time my mother noticed thatthere was a bowl of uh,
you know, softer toned eminem solike the colors, but they were more
like a pastel. And she assumedthat these were Easter Eminem's. And then
she's like, wait, we're notnear the Eastern time. She you know,
looks at my brother and she goes, hey, why are these like
this? And he was, oh, I dropped them all all on the
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floor and I washed them. Sohe likes Eminem's, or liked Eminem's so
much that he couldn't throw them out. He had to save them, picked
them all up, put them allon the colander, and then sipved them.
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That brownies, they don't really feelchristmasy to me. No, but
I will say that brownies do youlike like my mom makes them where she'll
put like some kind of like aminty like, you know, something on
top to make a little more christmasy. I just want them to have nuts
on them. No, I don'twant to. I just want a brownie.
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And I don't like the fudge brownieseither. I just want a brownie
to be a brownie, Like Isaid, with the gingerbread cookie. I
want a tat of crispness but thenmostly soft. I want brownie with walnuts
on top, and then I wantto take it. I want to take
three of them and just put theminto a cup of milk and then have
a spoon and just scoop them out. Nothing is better than a brownie at
the bottom of an ice cream Sunday. Or milk. Have you ever had
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milk before? I mean, Isuggest milk. I have. I have
tried milk. Yep, your favorite, your favorite percentage of milk. We're
really big on whole milk right now. I was a whole milk child.
I'm gonna tell me that twice.I'm a skim milk guy because I guess
that's what they make the flavored milksout of him. So, yeah,
all right. Hot chocolate, I'djust don't like hot beverages, hot cider,
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hot chocolates, not for me,hot coffee I don't even drink.
I'm gonna put it in Yummy.I would have put it into holiday classics.
I only have hot chocolate in December. Yeah, with marshmallows. Marshmallows
if I'm putting up my tree,So I guess November. If i'm you
know, Christmas Day, I mighthave some, but that's it. And
I will also say that I alsoonly get it from Creighton Barrel. Talk
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about hoity toity goo over here.You've also had the same hot chocolate for
fifteen years. You go, youuse one pack of a year. No,
no, no, we get it'sa big cylinder. I pay fifty
dollars for it. It takes fivescoops of the chocolate in there and then
you mix some milk. Oh,you don't have the packets. No no,
we do really hot common Come onwith it. I eat buy the
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Swiss peril. You buy the SwissMess. It stays in your cabinet for
fifteen years, and use one packeta year. Get that swist mess out
of my face. Bread pudding.I like bread pudding a lot. It's
never available at my home the dropof all time from you right there.
I like bread pudding a lot.Vanilla pudding is the best pudding. Yeah,
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that's neither here nor so what doyou want? Like? Yummy?
What are you thinking? Yeah,it's yummy. It's okay. I'll put
it below brownies. Think you Oh, how about those cookies with the Hershey
kiss in the middle, and hedidn't put this on here, but I
guess we'll do the reseas one aswell, like the little peanut butter cup
in the middle. Too much goingon for me. I don't love these
cookies. I'll eat them. I'lleat them. I'll eat them too.
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I do like the peanut butter cupin the middle over the kiss that's usually
a peanut butter cookie. I wouldalso I would dig it if the Hershey
kiss is like nice and warm andthen it spreads out over the cookie a
little bit. Well, that's Idon't like the tip of the kiss kind
of bite getting into your bite.I want a flat kiss. And finally,
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chocolate shaped like Santa Claus. Thesestink. They are terrible, hollow,
non hollow, whatever type you get, they're horrible and like, you
don't know how oldies are. Thesearen't made fresh every year. These aren't
making them forty years ago. They'restill available. Yeah, and then you
open it up and it's all youknow, it's not even shaped like Santa
Claus anymore. And it's gray likefucking Brended's M and M's all right,
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I'm gonna share the screen. Letme know what you think. Oh,
that's not bad, that's a somewhatappeasing Do I have to move things around
it all though? So our holidayclassics are gingerbread cookies, yes, Ferrera
rochets, snicker trees, Aniset cookies, chocolate orange, Reese's trees, Pizzelli,
and red and green Eminem's. I'mokay with that too. And that's
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of any flavor. By the way, it could be peanut, it can
be almond, it can be peanutbutter, it can be crisps. You're
talking m and ms. Oh yeah, yeah, I would prefer peanut m
and ms, but I don't thinkthey make those. I will eat any
M and M of any kind.In Yummy, We've got hot chocolate cheesecake
the Lifesaver book, which I wouldactually I'm gonna put that up to holiday
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classics. Okay, I'll let youleave it there. I'm okay with that.
I also don't know what this is, so yeah, I think you
would enjoy it. I think youwould like it's a nice little treat.
And then we got these s'mores typethings that look really intriguing, but the
either of us have had them.Two types of cookies here maybe a shortbread
with icing and also sugar cookie withicing. Those aren't yummy to me.
(23:17):
Those aren't yummy to If you movethem, I'm gonna move them back.
Actually, let's move the shortbread down. I don't like the shortbread as much,
okay, all right, put ittowards the top, though, I
don't think they're far off from eachother. But the sugar I would keep
in this, okay. And thenwe have baclava, which I'm good with.
Yummy, although you do braise agood point. Maybe, like in
the Armenian and Greek households, theyeat it more on the holiday. I
don't know. Should we do thislist for January sixth? And I'm talking
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about Armenian Christmas? Guys, Ithought you were going a different route there.
That's where the podcast is going,guys. Next to all red items
twenty twenty four, that's what we'regonna start talking about. And then brownies
and bread putting the clothes out.The yummy that's fine, I'd still eat
it. We have the gingerbread house. It doesn't feel right there, but
I I guess if you're building it, you're gonna eat it. You got
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that shortbread cookie what's after the shortbreadcookie there? I can't really so it
was a scratch ticket for a second. But the is an advent calendar that's
yeah, I guess belongs there.Then you have this like cool whip truffle
type of thing, cool whip andberries and whatnot. That's fine. Yeah,
ribbon candies, which I like moreover you, but I'm fine with
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it. In this category, youhave the Hirshey kisses, and then you
have the peanut butter cookies with theHirshey Kisses on top, which I suppose
we'd still eat if they were there. And then we have the try it
once category. We get the magicbars, which are incredibly sugary, and
sweet cherry pie, which probably shouldgo higher. You probably you could,
you would have more than one sliceof cherry pie. I don't want cherry
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pie though. True. When you'retalking when you're talking pies, it's it's
it's in the middle of Christmas ingeneral, you know, like I'm looking
for that cherry pie, you knowwhat I in this. Sometimes you run
into this with some apple pies too. If it's too chunky, it falls
apart quick. The size of thechunk matters and cherry pie always falls apart.
We got peppermint candy canes again.We would prefer the sweeter ones and
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belongs to the trash. We havechocolate Santa Easy trash. Eggnog no,
thank you. We have what isthis cake again? Panatone, which maybe
we're just missing the mark on this. It looks like boxed bread. No,
I don't think raisins in bread.Yeah, I don't know. And
then fruitcake down here as well,Panatonie looks like a better version of a
fruitcake. Out of all these,do you think is the most polarizing?
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Would you say? Eggnog? Thatare the aniset cookies? It's one of
those two. Okay, I fallon the Aniset. So yeah, I
feel good about our list. Let'sdrop that I felt better about the holiday
movies Christmas movies list than I doabout this. But that's fine. And
speaking of Christmas, it's the endof this episode, so may I just
(25:52):
say, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, Happy holidays? Yes, what's what's
the uh? What are the otherthe ones are over all? Right?
Quans is over right? No,quans is just starting? Is over?
Yah? Boxing Day is tomorrow?Okay? Happy all of those things to
Happy holidays to everyone out there fromMac and Goo, Yeah credit to us.
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Check us out at the end ofthe week for a news dump,
and then maybe next week I wantto do the Mac and Go Awards.
All right, we have to haveseen certain things by then. I've seen
forty movies. I'm a forty three, so maybe we're ready for it.
I guess you're better than me bythree've bye bye,
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