July 9, 2025 • 47 mins
We discuss the 7th theatrical entry into the Jurassic Park or World franchise - 'Jurassic World Rebirth'
Directed by Gareth Edwards and starring Scarlett Johansson, Mahershala Ali & Jonathan Bailey - Five years post-Jurassic World: Dominion (2022), an expedition braves isolated equatorial regions to extract DNA from three massive prehistoric creatures for a groundbreaking medical breakthrough.
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Directed by Gareth Edwards and starring Scarlett Johansson, Mahershala Ali & Jonathan Bailey - Five years post-Jurassic World: Dominion (2022), an expedition braves isolated equatorial regions to extract DNA from three massive prehistoric creatures for a groundbreaking medical breakthrough.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mac as a man, and I do receive some criticism
for this. I pride myself in blowing up my own
pool toys.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I yes, brag. I do have a family that has
a pool. My parents have a pool. They have a
machine that blows up.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The pool toys, which is what I would use.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I insist upon doing it every single time.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Why well, I think back to like, like say, like
when my father was a young man and his father
before him then have to walk up seven miles of
snow to get to a pool before being able.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
To use a toy like this. Yes, yeah, So when
I'm there and then ninety eight degree weather and I
blow up half of a shamou, and then I have
to take a twenty minute break as I might die,
And then I get you know, the fin at the end,
and then I see my son playing with it for
three minutes. I know that that's me.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Have you ever successfully sat on one of those shamou
and or whale things?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah? I was them at the other day.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Possible, not if you inflate it correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
No, mine was inflated correctly.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We named it to deflate it a bit so you
can actually get a last groove in there.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
No, I think you're thinking of the old ones, like
when your father would have to mow a lawn and
his following for him. Yeah, and then eventually get to
a pool like nowadays, those whales are built to ride.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh they're ergonomic now yeah, okay, all right, Well that's
good to hear.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Also, I saw like a complete asshole every time someone's like,
can I jump on the whale, and I'm like, it's
actually a dolphin. Orcas are the biggest dolphins.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's true. That's a fun fact, macvers. Wild orcas are
technically dolphins.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So at first they were known as whale killers, whalers, fishermen.
They would see these dolphins, these orcas in the ocean
killing whales, they would call them whale killers. Over time,
victory goes to spoil, they then became killer whales.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I don't know where what happened in society that this
killer world propaganda got got pushed upon us with SeaWorld
and Free Willy. Why why the orca of all things? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And also why were we told that they are friends?
They are foes?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, they eat They eat a couple of trainers at
SeaWorld every year.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
They kill sharks and no. So they don't even do
it for like meat. They do it for fun. They
eat the spleens. Yeah, they eat the spleens and then
like leave the rest of the body.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So are they even good for society for the world?
Are they good?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Poor free Willy m The crooked dorsal fin is how
you know that they're depressed?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Hey, that hat you got in your head looks like
a fucking dorsal fin. What are you go going on? There?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Beach bum? Uh surf shop? Okay, York beach main.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's a mint color.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Do you think it's mint or like a little off teal?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It looks mint from here, it looks like a mint
chocolate chip, ice.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Cream, seafoam.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
No, I'd call it mint. I'd call it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
We are going through the entire box of Creyola right now.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
One good, three, Yeah, just three, King of Queen Marl Street.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Entertainment, I'm good and i am mad.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And we are the Mac and Goo Program. We bring
you friendship in waves of Not only is this upcoming
movie the seventh of the franchise, but it's the fourth
of the quadrilogy and the first of it's just its
own movie now.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's new trilogy. I don't know. Yeah, today we're bringing
you a heaping pile of garbage. Jurassic Park Redid, REDID.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's Jurassic World, REDID, It's.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Rebus World red.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's been five years since dominion. The dinosaurs that have
broken out, most of them are dead. Luckily there's another
island that we didn't know about where there's more dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I'll tell you what goo after a Jurassic World in
what twenty fifteen?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That Crassic World was fourteen or fifteen? It was now fourteen.
It was before Guardians I think a year. I think
same year it was a fourteen for Pratt also four
So Scarlett Johansson is in this movie. With this box
office she is now the highest grossing not actress, but
movies that she has been in. Box office wise, she's
(04:36):
been in almost forty movies. I believe Pratt so first
off top ten, it's nine MCU people, Tom Cruise number five,
Chris Pratt is number six, but he is sniffing up
Scarlett's backside, and he's only like a billion or two
back with twelve thirteen less movies.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think Seldona is a better ROI than No Celtna Scarlett.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, she is a better ROI than Scarlet, but of
the top ten best ROI is Pratt.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah yeah, but I'm talking. I think the only two
females are Scarlet and Zoe's Aldona, right, yeah, I mean,
it's it is bizarre to think about what she has
been in the Avengers since the Jump, She's been an
awful lot of movies. It's not a stat I particularly
care for. And and I don't know, like, if it's
all MCU people, then you got almost have to cancel
(05:25):
him out and say Tom Cruise is the winner, right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I mean, it's almost like saying Robert or is the
best basketball players on the most championship teams. Even though yes,
Bill Russell, I know.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Here's the question for you. They obviously sought out Scarlet
Johnson for this movie.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Why I think she's enough of a draw?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Are you sure about that?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And then they said, who's really good at laughing? Mahershela Ali?
We need him to laugh before and after every line?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, we have Scarleton, Hanson, Marshall al Lei, the gentleman
that plays Fierro and kid John Jonathan Bailey yep. And
then uh, who's uh who's the other guy there?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
What do you want the IMDb here? How about this?
This movie is directed by Gareth Edwards.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, he did Rogue one.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think it is written. Story by Michael Creton Critton.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's criton og.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yep and then also the og David Kepp. He wrote
Jurassic Kepp came back. Yeah, yeah, but he wrote Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah. Crickton didn't have anything to do with this. It's
just the characters based urist.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Story about it.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell you what. Kep should have never
come back this The script is bad. Story is bad.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'm not even sure if he did come back.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It is the the whole reason precipice. It jumps back
seventeen years and it throws a Snickers wrapper at you,
which I don't think it's possible. What happened? And then
at the end of the movie, good let me let
me talk about the beginning in the end of the movie, what.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
This podcast to contain to spoilers not suitable for children
or adults that don't want spoilers.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
The beginning of the movie, the Snickers rapper. I don't
know why they did that, but it also didn't make
sense because the dinosaur that escapes containment somehow was on
the other side of the glass already, even though it
didn't choose to eat people the three minutes before that.
I digress. At the end of the movie, there's a
situation with water that should have been recalling the original
(07:25):
situation with water around the island, and it's just they
were fine, they were all set. It didn't matter. Cop
said they didn't matter. There's a lot of things in
this movie that you've seen before and have never asked
to see again. There's a lot of things in this
movie that aren't fun. There's a lot of characters of
this movie that aren't fun. This movie is uninteresting, it's unfunny.
(07:49):
It's devoid of fun. It just exists. It's not the
worst movie ever made. It is not a movie anyone
should pay their hard earned American dollars to see.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Let me tell you what I like, and I'm not
saying this is a good movie. This is a soft
like for me. And the reason why is I think
they might be onto something. I don't think they are
moving forward all side quests. That's what I want. I
don't need a ton of plot. I don't need a
ton with the characters. I need. We need to get
(08:19):
DNA from three dinosaurs. Let's go do it. The issue
in this there might not have been enough conflict. There
might not have been enough because they got all three
DNAs pretty simple. Also, we need to stop with the
mutant dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are scary enough. You can start every
movie by saying, oh shit, we found another island that
(08:42):
Old white Beard didn't tell us about where they were
storing a different era of dinosaurs, and we can go
see different dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
We're so deep in to this story, this franchise that
they can't even give us real dinosaurs anymore. We have
all these made up dinosaurs. And the big bad dinosaur
in this movie looks so demented that it looks like
it's out of a bad alien.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It looks like Mac holding up a mirror to himself.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's it's so stupid, so dumb, like I don't know.
This movie is like not getting good reviews, but it's
making a lot of money. And how why? I mean,
we get twenty fourteen, Jurassic World fourteen fifteen, twenty eighteen,
we get Fallen Kingdom twenty twenty two, we get Dominion.
(09:31):
Those three movies significantly better than this moviees those movies
tried to do something. Those movies had compelling moments, fun scenes.
This movie doesn't have any of that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Jurassic World is better, absolutely and also significantly. My issue
with Jurassic World is the mutated dinosaurs. Once again, if
you get rid of those. I love the idea of
we were finally able to complete the par and we
actually have people here with the dinosaurs. That's a great premise.
(10:04):
I love that, But you have to make that stupid
indo raptor or Indo rex whatever it is in that movie,
which then you carry on to Fallen Kingdom, which there's
too much of it. He's fucking bugs Bunny in that movie,
and we introduce a clone girl. I want dinosaurs, I
don't want clone people. We then almost move past that.
(10:27):
We say, forget about that, let's focus on bugs and
not only bugs. You thought the dinosaurs were old. How
about the original cast? How do you feel about that?
We get them back again? They don't care learn earn.
I like, just let's move past that cast. Let's move
past the secondary cast, the Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Move past this franchise altogether.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
No, I'm not saying that move past those guys. I
like the idea of mentioning Sam Neil in these movies,
or mentioning that this is one shared universe, but we
don't need to see the characters over and over again
because I'm not rooting for people regardless. I want fodder.
I want people that could be torn up like tissue
paper every single time.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Like this.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I like this fellow. What's his name here, Rupert Friend, Yeah,
Rupert Friend. He plays Martin Krebs. He's a real asshole.
I like him.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
He plays an asshole as he does, and every time
you see him on screen, that's Rassle on Homeland. You
know exactly, you know one hundred percent what's gonna happen
in this movie from the very beginning of the movie.
I know what this also does, which we fucking hate
and we've been killing every God Zilma, God's Zilla movie
for the last thirty years for doing this. Introduces a
family we don't give a fuck about and puts them
in harm's way, and guess what, wouldn't you know it?
(11:45):
The family survives. Oh wow, and another part of the family,
there's a real son of a bitch in there that
ends up being not a son of a bitch. I've
never seen that before. That's a new fucking thing. Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know what we do have to get rid of
two is when we think a dinosaur is about to
kill someone, but then another dinosaur saves the human without
them knowing. Yeah, yeah, that's happened a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let's brand new.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But I wouldn't mind moving forward if we get three
new characters, three new main characters every time, but we
don't waste time anymore. In five minutes, they say why
should we care about you? And each character gets one
minute to say lost, my son, wife left me, I'm
out here on a boat, and I'm a pirate. Now
all right, cool, move on to you, Scar Joe, what happened?
(12:31):
Mother's dead, lost a friend, I'm a mercenarian for money.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, but what you're foregoing here is and I think
we realize this. You know, in the last two movies
prior to this one, even though those were enjoyable to
certain degrees, we simply do not care about the dinosaurs anymore.
They've bastardized it so much that we do not Well, no,
so don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
There's a great scene in this I wouldn't say great.
There's a good enough scene in this where Jonathan Bailey
sees a Titanosaurus. I would know this because they have
a Titanis, dragon Sword and power Rangers. I believe it's
the big one with the neck. But he's in awe.
He's in wonder as people should be when they see dinosaurs,
(13:17):
not just like, look at this long neck freak. No,
that thing's crazy and it's got really long tails, and
I think they're having sex.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Why is the guy that grew up loving dinosaurs in
awe of the mutated dinosaurs. He shouldn't be, wouldn't you
say he should be upset about this. Maybe he is,
so his reaction don't make no sense. Good.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, the Titanosaurus is not a mutated one. I'm sure
about that. The ones that are mutated. So the Spinosaurus
I believe has a slight mutation where it's now able
to be in the water more than it was because
it was in the water in Jurassic Park three. This
movie's a little bit like Jurassic Park three.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Jurassic Park three in this movie are far and away
the worst movies of.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
The first This is very similar to Jurassic Park three.
It's we need a reason to go to the island,
and it's all about like let's have a couple scares.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But there's no scares in this movie. And then when
they reveal the big bastard eight armed dinosaur, it's so
stupid looking, you're like, this can't be what they fitted
like this. They didn't finish the CG.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It looks like a RP.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, it's got little things and then big things and
the fucking it's.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
It looks terrible, that's a description.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
It would eat my head off, but I would laugh
in its face.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Oh the Snickers bar, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So stupid? And that and that set up. Goot, they
got fucking shitburg magoo eating the Snickers drops the fucking
the wrapper and then it gets sucked up somehow. There's
a little fan at the bottom of the door. It
gets sucked up, shorts out the engine or the motor
on one sliding door. But that's the door they just
went into. They've only made it like two minutes into
(14:59):
that them somehow, because that door doesn't close, the whole
entire system shuts down and reads boots and opens up
like that's not a thing. That'll never be a thing.
It's never once been a thing. It was so stupid
to make that like a device to get this thing
out of its captivity like it that. Immediately, I was like, Oh,
(15:20):
everything that happens after this is fucking stupid.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Are we doing spoilers right now? How do I act? I? Also,
I don't think we've spoiled anything so far.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, no, you can't exactly. You we could talk about
the whole movie and it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't matter
now you talk about the fucking amphibious dinosaur. The whole
point is they're circling around this island, they make a
point of saying, and all it's constantly circling around this island.
At the end, they take a fucking dingy out into
the same waters that they were attacked by the amphibious
(15:52):
dinosaurs and the big one, and they're like, ah, we
did it. No, you fucking didn't. Where that Where did
those things go?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
It would have been funny in the first scene when
the guy dropped the Snickers bar and you're like, oh,
that's not gonna be the reason why this thing breaks out,
and a janetor just walks by and pick it up,
and he's like, that's not gonna bother this movie.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I also like, they're like, all right, seventeen years ago,
we're on this other island that you've never heard of
that they're they're they're making these bastard dinosaurs for Jurassic World,
And you're like, okay, sure, Like I don't know why
we needed a time jump though, Like you could have
just told the story seventeen years ago, but we had
to do a time jump.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We just need normal dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I think it would have been scarier in a better movie.
Number one, Yes, regular dinosaurs probably would have been a
better movie if you just said it on the island
originally seventeen years ago and these dinosaurs get out. It's
almost like that's what was the fun part about Jurassic
Park in the first place.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You know what you could have. Why haven't they tried
to do a prequel yet?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I mean that they you almost set it up for one,
but a prequel to Jurastic World for seven minutes and
then we get away from that. I like, there's no
story worth telling in this world anymore. There was a
time where I wanted a story in this world where
dinosaurs were roaming the earth and people had to become survivalists.
(17:10):
We're past that because in this movie they tell you
dinosaurs can only live near the equator, And I'm like, okay,
yet to add, sure, sure find science, I get it,
but you get rid of the most fascinating aspect of
this franchise is that dinosaurs were free roaming, and now
you're like, no, let's skim past all that. Let's give
you one minute and a title card talking about how
they're no longer doing that.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I actually dazed off during that title card, and then
I was a little confused for I don't know though,
two or three minutes before I put the pieces together myself. Also,
I just thought of this, what if they did a
Halloween style requel getting rid of the previous six movies
and they set this movie in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I mean, that would be their best bet going forward.
But unfortunately they keep making money, so I don't think they're.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
These are making a lot of mine.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like I think there's there's one all time great movie
of the seven, the Original, right, the Lost World and
Jurassic I like Jurassic World second best over the Lost World.
Same Lost World is solid.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Hold on, we're gonna rank this at the end, so
keep your or tier these at the end, So keep
those to yourself. A right, I do want to Let's
just run through the gauntlet here, real quick fun factor.
I like seeing the t rex swim.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't even know if it was a t Rex.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Was it the t Rex?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Was it the mutated Rex thing we got in Jurassic World.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Was it a mutated No, that was not there. That
was not the Indigo Rex. I know that.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So why was there just a regular t Rex on
this mutated island?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Maybe it walked over.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't I don't think it was a regular was
the tail didn't look t rex tail, the face did
look t rex.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It wouldn't be the indo Rex that we saw from
the other ones because that was on a different island.
This might have happened, This might have been different.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
They were breeding those things, I mutilating those things on
this island for Jurassic.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But the other one looked more like a giant raptor.
This still looked like a Rerex, So I agree this
might have been was the first step. This might have
been a Rex that was mixed with like one other thing,
but it's a different type of spliced up rex.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah. Yeah, because I feel like they would have told
you t rex.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
But I think t rexes can swim, so.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Maybe I don't know. I don't think it matters.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
It was bad at killing that was an issue.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I also like that where it was the stream and river,
it would have just been able to stand. It didn't
need to swim.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
That was a dumb scene, too satisfactor.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I like going back to an island. I like that idea.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Wasn't even any satisfying depths either.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, because the one that you were waiting on wasn't
so telegraphed. It was also kind of silly.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I would have liked because we we got a nice
tall grass scene, but there should have been more threat
because they even talked about we're not afraid of these guys,
We're afraid of what hunts these guys. They get all
three of the DNAs in their first tries.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
The most unbelievable thing was the repelling down the rock face.
That was so ridiculous, and then there ended up just
being a staircase they could have used.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I don't know what noise I made, but it was
a noise of pure disappointment when the DNA parachuted down
to where they were after the rock face.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, they tried to be like tongue in cheek with
the humor in this movie, with that stuff. And then
the daughter's boyfriend. They tried to make him funny, but
you just wanted that guy to die and he didn't.
And after doing like the one admirable thing saving the
daughter in the first place, he sucked the rest of
the movie. You thought he would have some sort of
redemption arc. Nope, still a shit head. They should have
(20:48):
killed one. The dad should have died, that would have
been something of substance.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
The girl should have died.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
The little girl, Yeah, she was annoying as fuck.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I mean might as well. That would have been something
that would have really pushed the envelope.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What's up? Why would they breed a mini triceratops.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Because it's cute?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
What the fuck? What do we what are we wasting?
He said? The average costs from mutetd dinosaurs like seventy
two million. We put seventy million into a mini triceratops.
You're kidding me.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That was a good line, though. You expect them to
tell the taxes like, we're not gonna we're gonna hide
these guys borometer, Yeah, for.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
A two hour and fifteen minute movie. You don't see
a ton of dinosaurs. There's an awful lot of person
of person stuff in here. You see the water dinosaur, Mosesaurus,
you see the amphibious ones, you get on the island,
you see like a snake in the water. Then you
(21:47):
see t Rex, you see the flying guy, and then
you see the mutated thing. You see like six dinosaurs
in the whole fucking movie.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, so we compared it to Jurassic Park three, but
we're gonna give you Assic Park three credit right now.
They didn't waste a ton of time and the movie
was ninety two minutes.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, this is the worst movie in the franchise. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That might have just pushed it. But I still like this.
I still like this better than the last two. No,
the last one last the last okay, no, it's not.
Dominion was okay, Fallen Kingdom. Fallen Kingdom was good for
fifty percent of it. The other fifty percent was pretty bad.
I hate the last two.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
There was no moment in this movie you would consider good.
The other two movies prior to this had good moments.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I thought when the dinosaurs were on the screen, they
focused on them enough. Also, I like just having side
quests and saying we the story doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I also felt like not for nothing. I don't know
what the budget is in this movie. I thought the
CG on the dinosaurs was not the best. Wasn't great.
On the close up you're like eh. And then there
was actually a couple moments, especially we're on the dinghy
at the end, you could really tell they had one
of those moving screens or it was blue screen green screen.
(23:03):
There was something a little off of the CG. Maybe
it was the theater I was in, but I kept reading here.
Here was the large portion of reviews that I saw.
It was like, it was not that good of a movie,
but it looks great and sounds great. I'll give it.
This score was good. They did a good job with
the score animal way they did good. It did not
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look good.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It didn't look I thought it looked pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It was two dark at points, and the only thing
that had a chance to say it looked good was
the grassy fields. And we only spent like two minutes
in it.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You mentioned the CG being bad, the jokes on you.
They actually mutated real dinosaurs. That's where the budget went.
Those were all real mac okay Halloween. Will this wane
over time?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yes, I don't know if I could have been any
lower on this movie going into it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So no, you had a real sour plus attitude.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, I didn't want to watch it. I was and
it during the viewing. I wasn't. I wasn't ready to
walk out at any point, but I knew going in
this movie wasn't gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And it wasn't a quater world better or worse than
water World. It's worse than water World.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It is nowhere near as fun.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Oh Okay, which dinosaur would you like to see attack
water World?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Though?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I'd prefer the spinosaurs because they can jump out and
also be land animals.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
They also at one point, you know, there's I don't
know what the technique is in cinema goo. We've talked
about it a little bit before, but when a movie
starts big and gets smaller and small and smaller. So
in the third act of this movie, they end up
in a tunnel system, which is like a classic thing
You've seen it in Alien. This thing it really tries
to make you feel claustrophobic. They just go into the
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tunnels one dinosaur get shot and they're fine. They don't
even use that to like their advantage. It's completely wasted.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
What was that utated dinosaur that was like it was
half wrapped or half pterodactyl and it was a little
overweight too.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, I don't know what that was called. But they
weren't very good at killing, that's for.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Sure, Spoky, I'll tell you that much. When life gives
you plemings, you make Jesse plemonade. Who did that for
you in this movie?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
All right, let's see here. You had the woman at
the beginning that didn't open the door with snickers. Guy,
that might be the only candidate.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
She was good, and then she was like, nah, I'm
not gonna let you out.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Was that dinosaur at the beginning? Was that the one
with the bald head? Is that that dinosaur?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah? I liked the raptor that had two heads.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Oh it's stuck in the cryo. Yeah, so that again,
like fucking Fierro's ah aghast that he've seen this, except
he's still like having the time of his life. His
character was terrible, bad character.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
They should have let that raptor out of the tube
and out of nowhere. It starts talking to itself and
having a conversation. One starts smoking a pipe or something.
Have a little fun. If the dinosaurs are going to
be mutated, let them talk, let them have a time.
Maybe they go to a big top circus.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
If the Snickers bar reset the whole system, that whole
basement lab, why was that thing still in the tube?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh, you can't let that out just in case.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, but they didn't have any control over it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Just in case. You don't want to let that one out.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So that was just always that was like a pendant.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Oh. You know what would have happened is if that
one got out, the raptor would go to attack someone
and as it was leaping, the other raptor head would
attack that one.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You know what we were missing in this is we
needed what's the thing in Godzilla that has the three heads?
We could have used that.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
King Goadora.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, that would have been a good fit in this movie.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
They have t rex is in those movies, though, I
think King Kong fights them.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think King Kong did fight at t Rex in
Skull Island.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
He did, and then he also fought one in the
Peter Jackson Kong movie too. The one with Jack Black. Huh,
say what you want about that movie. It looks amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'm trying to figure out. Yeah, the last two King
Kong movies Calm Godzilla movies were better than this too,
and those movies weren't good.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I really hated the last Call Godzilla movie us.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Too were not very good. I think better than this.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I don't know, Max, credit Union, who are you giving
credit to?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
The two daughters sucked? The dad was okay. The boyfriend sucked.
Scarjo was was having too much fun. She should have
been a little more subdued. Maherschel Ali maybe rehearsal Ali
sucked in this, dude, I know. But Jonathan Bailey sucked.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I liked Jonathan Bailey in it, though, No.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
His character was so poorly written.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
He is a nerd. He had to explain stuff to us.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Terrible, terrible. I hated him. Uh, you know what, credit
UNI into this. The French speaker. That guy was the
best character in the movie.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Actually credit to this too. They didn't have any of
the characters hook up.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, but they implied the Fierro and Scargo were going to.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You didn't act, but they didn't show it, and the
movie didn't need it.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And also like she's she spent her whole life doing
mercenary stuff and still has to keep doing it because
she has no money. Now all of a sudden, she's
just gonna help out the whole world instead of being
set for life. That doesn't make sense either.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Oh, I just thought of this.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
What is I can't even say her mom or mom's
already dead.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
What if that raptor with the two heads? What if
that raptor started dating itself but then after time it
had to break up and you have to see the
other fucking raptor every day.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I think there was a show on TLC about that,
but with humans.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Cat dog, Yes, that's what was. I was just thinking
about that the other day. I'm like, it's been twenty years,
twenty something years since that show. How haven't we got
a real cat doog in real life?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I watched three episodes of Hey Arnold the other night
for the first time, and.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I don't know what seasons, what season?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Season one? First three episodes good stuff, first of all,
stupid episodes in those first three amazing. I did not
remember any of the voice snat show. I was thrown
off by all of the voice acting.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It was all children. I think what you were thrown
off by is as show went on, they replaced the
voice actors, and you might have been thinking of the
later voice.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Actors, possibly possibly, well every voice I did not.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So what they would do, and this is great Jurassic
World talk, is they would let those voice actors stay
on the show, but they would give them new characters.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
In seat of just aging up the characters.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's like, hey, you know how you used to be
the main star Arnold. Now you're the wimpy teacher what
is his name, mister Simmons.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Stoop kids scared to leave a stup.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So you did three episodes that's six segments.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Maybe four?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Okay, three or four? So you did stoop kid. You
did the Arnold is Crazy episode, right, because that was
the one that played before Harry at the Spy.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't remember. I also was drinking during this, so
I was half in, half out.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
You saw the episode where Harold not Harold, Gerald and
Arnold were dressed as fruits on the bus.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes, I did see that.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Don't stop me. Now you saw is it when they
clean up the lot and they make a baseball field?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
No? Actually, that's my least favorite episode. Because the baseball
field is so unrealistic. We did see this in the
second episode. Is your first introduction to the Arnold gum
thing that held? Oh yeah, yep, I don't remember much shows.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Pipe Down Weasel. Then you also have the pigeon Man
or is it too early for the pigeon Man?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't recall it is Chocolate Boy. Chocolate Boy is
not here yet.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
No, No, that show rules.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Such a good show, great show. Are you on hot Dogs? Yes,
we are. For those of you tarty to the mac
and goop party, ho hot Dogs, hot Dogs. We've said
a lot, We've spoiled most of the movie. If that
matters to you, I'm gonna put spoiler right in the
description as an apology early on. Just I'm sorry. Spoiler
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filleds right there in the description. Twenty four hot dogs.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Oh Jesus, like I.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Said, I liked, and I like what they can do
from here. Scale back, spend less money and you'll still
make money. Think of the Roe.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
This is somewhere between eighteen and twenty hot dogs on
the given day.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Oh you laughed at my twenty four and you're like, well,
this is still pretty close.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Twenty four to twenty is a huge up, huge leap.
It's either the worst movie or the second worst movie
I've seen this year. It's this or Electric State. Electric
State at least was so bad it was good and sometimes.
This didn't have any of that. So I think if
I had to rewatch one of the two, it would
be the Electric State. So this is probably the worst
movie I've seen this year. And again, it's not even
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close to the worst movie I've ever seen or the
worst movie in the last five years. It's just so
incredibly lazy and not a movie anyone wanted or needed.
It's just just so much retread. There's nothing new. The
creatures suck, the characters suck. It's uninteresting, it doesn't look great,
the score solid, I'll give it that. It's just if
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you want to go to the movie theater to eat popcorn,
this is a good movie for that. Just don't look
at the screen.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
All right, Mac, We're not gonna go any further into spoilers.
And before we get into your sack, I would Billy
d made us another amazing tier. It's all seven Jurassic
Park World movies. I don't feel like sharing the screen,
but I'll tell you the five tiers that he has
created for us. At the bottom is d I assume
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that stands for Dick. Just above that is should have
stayed extinct. Just above that is it's a fun ride.
Just above that solid as a fossilized amber. Then at
the top only five Sweet Dino Action. I have out
of the row between sweet Dino Action and solid as
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fossilized amber, where no movie will go because I'm gonna
put the first Jurassic Park in the top tier and
none of the other movies will be within a row
of it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, but the first movie is better than sweet dyno Action.
So I don't like the names of it.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
What do you want to call it?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I don't know. Sweet dinal Action.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Is Jurassic World, actual good movie. I will then change
solid as fossilized Amber too, SDA and NSDA will be
Jurassic World. Okay, so we have two in there. Jurassic
Park is an all time movie. We have a separate
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episode on that. Please go and check it out. We
also you weren't there. I did a separate episode with
Keief with all of the top ten Sweet Dino Action
and most of it is the first movie Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I would say also to continue to sing its praises,
and also why we get so annoyed when movies like
this come out. I think Jurassic Park, you would have
a hard time not putting it in the top twenty
movies of all time, right, It's it would, It's on
the short list when people are discussing like all time
movie theater experiences. It's just it's such a unique movie,
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or was a unique movie, and so when you end
up with this bastardized version of that movie thirty two
years later, it really bothers me. It makes me upset.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Oh can you guess where I had Jurassic Park in
my dork top fifty list.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'm gonna say twelve, number four, four, number four, Wow
all time. I'm gonna look that up for me.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I'll explain while you do that. I think it covers
all the bases of being a truly entertainment movie. It
is quotable, it is action packed, it is kind of scary.
It has such memorable characters for the short amount of
time that you get them, and you have the argument,
the question throughout the whole time of should we be
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doing this? Is this sweet old man? Actually the villain
for bringing back these creatures, and it just looks it
looks so great, and the se him Neil Parton. Someone
pointed this out on X the other day of when
he first sees the dinosaurs and just doesn't say anything
and in amazement takes off his hat. It's just such
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a great scene.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
You would be hard pressed to not have Jurassic Park
in your top thirty one movies of all time?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
As I just did you have it at number thirty one?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I have it thirty first. What'shum okay? With as well?
That sort of makes sense. What it's right around? To
be fair to me, Schindler's List. The sounds of the Lambs, Jaws,
Shot of the Dead are the four right before it,
the one right after the Spider Man across the Spider Verse.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Do you want to hear my top four?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It is Good Fellas Jaws, Yes, Halloween.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Halloween is seven?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Okay? What's third?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Back to the Future?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I'm sorry that I actually misread that. Number one is
Shrek two. Number two is Shrek one. Number three is
Sharp Tail. Number four is Jerry Seinfeld as a b
number guess is Will Smith as a pigeon.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I'll give you a guest, my Mount Rushmore on.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
The Goodfellas E two Mama Town BN.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, life is beautiful as on there, but Eat.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
To Mama Town BN was actually on the top fifty
that New York Times had. I was pretty surprised. All right, yeah,
Levita Bella Vita Abella. So you have one in four Jaws.
No Jaws I just mentioned is right before. Jaws is
such a good movie too.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
It's crazy greater than Jurassic Park right.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, slightly, but like lightly. But also Jaws is like
the prerequisite to then getting Jurassic Punk greed.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I also saw in the previews in this drash Park
movie is Jurassic parker is? I mean? Jaws is coming
back to theaters obviously for its fiftieth anniversary, so I'm
very excited to see it in the theaters.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Jaws also deserves so much credit for in the time
that it was made in the middle of the seventies,
there was nothing paced like Jaws.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yep. It's a strong point, very good point.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
They hadn't created pacing yet.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
The other two in my top four are Inception I
gave up the two yeah, and Avengers Infinity War at three.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Okay, So back to this tiering, we've only gotten two
things up here so far. We have actual good movie
Jurassic Park, and we have SDA Jurassic World. Where do
you put Lost World?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I think Lost World is good enough to be an SDA.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I think it's a fun ride. I think it's just
below SDA.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I do think Jurassic World is definitively better. So I'm
okay with that.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Is it the parts are greater than its whole? Is
that what they're saying is, yeah, because there are so
like you remember and like the t rex in San
Diego not a good scene, but you do remember that.
You remember raptors in the grass? Yeah, you remember the
t rex, the mama going after the baby, and a
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trailer hanging off the bridge.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, So I guess it's fun a hair below sd A.
I'm okay with either.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
One Jurassic Park three And this is a weird one
because all it is is just dinosaur action.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You're right, you're right. So what do we so the
bottom two or should have stayed extinct or d right,
that's what we have.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I'm actually gonna change the second to last one to
a raptor speaks okay, and it goes into a raptor speaks.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So Jurassic Park three is going to go in the
fourth tier. And because of raptor speak.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I will add a row below D and D will
now be changed too.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Mah, oh, mass should go above a raptor speaks.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I will switch that. That is fine. The next one
up here is Jurassic World Dominion not Dominion, Fallen Kingdom,
Fallen Kingdom. I like that mountain scene. That's about it.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Fallen Kingdom has like three really good scenes to store.
The story that weaves them together is pretty fucking stupid.
So it gave like the dinosaur in the house was
like fucking cool.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
No, it wasn't. The dinosaur in the house. It shouldn't
have been much better. It should have been cool, and
it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
It was cool. It could have been way better good,
and it way better.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Then that stupid scene where the Indo Raptor tricks Buffalo
Bill like he fakes sleeping and then he winks at
the camera.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I'm not saying it's a good movie, but it had.
When that movie was over, I didn't regret seeing it.
I just wanted it to be much better. So it's mah,
it's mah.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I am now gonna add another row. For the next one,
add row below. I'm gonna say for this next one,
for Dominion, it's.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Old, Dominion is better and Fallen Kingdom.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I disagree.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I think it's a much better, much better movie. It
makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
No, yes, okay, So then we get to I'm gonna
clear it this row.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I guess I could do that.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I already put it in. It's old, and you could
talk about the franchise is old. You could know I'm
changed to Simmons is Old. That's even better. Simmons is Old,
and that gave.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Us some member berries. It had a couple of nice scenes.
It was fine. It was it was a fine ride.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
No, it could refer to the cast, it could refer
to the franchise, it could refer to how you feel
watching it. Simmons is Old, No, thank you. And then
the final movie here is the one that we just watched.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Uh, this movie. The more we talk it out, it's like,
in part because it's not bad enough to have a
talking raptor, there's not gonna be anything memorable. And as
you know, we get two, three, four, five years removed,
you're not gonna remember a single fucking thing about this movie,
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and so I think that makes it whatever. The lowest
tier is.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
The lowest tier is Mac hates it.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
It's the worst movie in the franchise.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
So you want to put it in the tier Mac
hates it?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yes, I hate this movie.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Okay. So we have a pretty good little list here.
Do you want to hear it?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, let's see it.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Okay, in the top row actual good movies, Jurassic Park. Yes,
in the next row called separation row, we have nothing, okay,
all right. Then we go to SDA Jurassic World, all right, Yeah,
it's a fun ride. Lost World okay, mah Fallen Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I would also put Dominion in there.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
A raptor speaks Jurassic Park. Three Simmons is old and
I stamped this Dominion. And then finally Mac hates it Rebirth.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah. I either either be worse so you're fucking laughably bad,
or don't make the movie because there's no chance this
movie was gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Let's get into Mac Sack and Mac sac could be anything.
It could be a boat and hopefully coming up at
the end of this week. It depends on Mac's schedule.
We are going to talk about. I'm gonna tease it
right now, maybe the movie of the year. I tell
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you right now, Mac, you know this about me. I
don't give two shits about Superman.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
I love this fucking movie.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Were you having so much fun that you were snickering?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I was having so much fun at this. Aw shucks,
g Willakers Superman that they have brought into our universe,
and just how much how every other character interacts with him,
how he interacts with the world. Everything in the movie.
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By the way, I'm talking about Superman. James guns Superman,
and yes, you can tell that it is a James
gun movie. But this movie is so bright and comic,
bookie and weird and take some odd turns. I love this.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
That is very encouraging here, very very encouraging here. Now,
you hated Man of Steel, correct.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I didn't hate it. I didn't like it, though in.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
General, I would say you liked Cavill's Superman, right.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I thought it was as good as it could have
been in the circumstances that he had.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
You're saying, immediately, Korn Sweat greater.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Than James Gunn's Superman, is better than Zack Snyder's is
what I'm saying. I don't want to. I don't want
to attack the actors they are doing, sure what they're
but I'll also say this is the chemistry between Corn
Sweat and Bras Nahan is way better than what we
had with Amy Adams.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, that's weird because Amy Adams is a great actress,
but she I don't know. She reminded me of Ed
Ed and Nettie's plank in the Snyder Verse.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
They're all trying to get jawbreakers and shit. But yes,
I loved it. My wife loved it. Nicholas Holtz, Lex
Luthor is such a great menacing villain.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I really like that casting for me jump.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
I also, they do such a great job of obviously
Superman can destroy anyone and anything Lex Luthor, and you
kind of get this in the trailers and the scenes
that were shared online, and he has no fear of Superman.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Uh. The only other question I have, and I am
seeing this in a couple of days, how is crypto?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
That would be my only down part right there that
I would.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Okay, not a not a crypto boy. You're out on bitcoin.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Well, let's take the dog stuff back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
It does feel like that this version of Superman, that's
how it was in the comics, though with Crypto like
it just or maybe that's a James Gun thing. I
don't know. It's it's very encouraging, UH to hear this.
And also I was pretty annoying. I could could not
go to the screening the other night, so I'm happy.
I'm happy to be going to the theater on Thursday
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at two pm for this one.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
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Public dot com mergers, go buy some stuff. Check us
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Speaker 2 (45:59):
Also, yes, you gotta watch Ironheart.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
You've three I'm three episodes in.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'm all sets in because I just watched the worst
movie of the year. You have to watch my best
movie of the year. You gotta watch twenty eight years
Later too.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Where can I find that in the movie?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
There?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
That is a reason.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
You can make time for Jurassic poop. You can make
time for twenty eight years.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I brought my nine year old cousin who loved this movie.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Maybe he'll love twenty eight years Later too.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
I should have mentioned that is that is most likely
the target audience for this movie.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Love this movie.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
He loved it.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
You didn't even get sweet title action.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
He said to me, this one was so good. I
have it just behind Fallen Kingdom and Jurassic Park. Three.
Those are his top three.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
All right, never mind, he could love it, but if
that's it, that's his rating system.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I asked him. I'm like, wait, are you including Jurassic
Park the first one? He's like, oh, yeah, that one, Yeah,
I'm including it. Okay, all right, Tuesdays or goosdays? I
have used kangaroos.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, I'm Burton. Bye. Please flip the cassette over to
side B to continue the adventure.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Now it's not for girls jumping on trampolines.
Mac as a man, and I do receive some criticism
for this. I pride myself in blowing up my own
pool toys.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I yes, brag. I do have a family that has
a pool. My parents have a pool. They have a
machine that blows up.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The pool toys, which is what I would use.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I insist upon doing it every single time.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Why well, I think back to like, like say, like
when my father was a young man and his father
before him then have to walk up seven miles of
snow to get to a pool before being able.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
To use a toy like this. Yes, yeah, So when
I'm there and then ninety eight degree weather and I
blow up half of a shamou, and then I have
to take a twenty minute break as I might die,
And then I get you know, the fin at the end,
and then I see my son playing with it for
three minutes. I know that that's me.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Have you ever successfully sat on one of those shamou
and or whale things?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah? I was them at the other day.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Possible, not if you inflate it correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
No, mine was inflated correctly.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We named it to deflate it a bit so you
can actually get a last groove in there.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
No, I think you're thinking of the old ones, like
when your father would have to mow a lawn and
his following for him. Yeah, and then eventually get to
a pool like nowadays, those whales are built to ride.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh they're ergonomic now yeah, okay, all right, Well that's
good to hear.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Also, I saw like a complete asshole every time someone's like,
can I jump on the whale, and I'm like, it's
actually a dolphin. Orcas are the biggest dolphins.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's true. That's a fun fact, macvers. Wild orcas are
technically dolphins.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So at first they were known as whale killers, whalers, fishermen.
They would see these dolphins, these orcas in the ocean
killing whales, they would call them whale killers. Over time,
victory goes to spoil, they then became killer whales.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I don't know where what happened in society that this
killer world propaganda got got pushed upon us with SeaWorld
and Free Willy. Why why the orca of all things? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And also why were we told that they are friends?
They are foes?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, they eat They eat a couple of trainers at
SeaWorld every year.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
They kill sharks and no. So they don't even do
it for like meat. They do it for fun. They
eat the spleens. Yeah, they eat the spleens and then
like leave the rest of the body.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So are they even good for society for the world?
Are they good?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Poor free Willy m The crooked dorsal fin is how
you know that they're depressed?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Hey, that hat you got in your head looks like
a fucking dorsal fin. What are you go going on? There?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Beach bum? Uh surf shop? Okay, York beach main.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's a mint color.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Do you think it's mint or like a little off teal?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It looks mint from here, it looks like a mint
chocolate chip, ice.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Cream, seafoam.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
No, I'd call it mint. I'd call it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
We are going through the entire box of Creyola right now.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
One good, three, Yeah, just three, King of Queen Marl Street.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Entertainment, I'm good and i am mad.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And we are the Mac and Goo Program. We bring
you friendship in waves of Not only is this upcoming
movie the seventh of the franchise, but it's the fourth
of the quadrilogy and the first of it's just its
own movie now.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's new trilogy. I don't know. Yeah, today we're bringing
you a heaping pile of garbage. Jurassic Park Redid, REDID.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's Jurassic World, REDID, It's.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Rebus World red.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's been five years since dominion. The dinosaurs that have
broken out, most of them are dead. Luckily there's another
island that we didn't know about where there's more dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I'll tell you what goo after a Jurassic World in
what twenty fifteen?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That Crassic World was fourteen or fifteen? It was now fourteen.
It was before Guardians I think a year. I think
same year it was a fourteen for Pratt also four
So Scarlett Johansson is in this movie. With this box
office she is now the highest grossing not actress, but
movies that she has been in. Box office wise, she's
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been in almost forty movies. I believe Pratt so first
off top ten, it's nine MCU people, Tom Cruise number five,
Chris Pratt is number six, but he is sniffing up
Scarlett's backside, and he's only like a billion or two
back with twelve thirteen less movies.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think Seldona is a better ROI than No Celtna Scarlett.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, she is a better ROI than Scarlet, but of
the top ten best ROI is Pratt.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah yeah, but I'm talking. I think the only two
females are Scarlet and Zoe's Aldona, right, yeah, I mean,
it's it is bizarre to think about what she has
been in the Avengers since the Jump, She's been an
awful lot of movies. It's not a stat I particularly
care for. And and I don't know, like, if it's
all MCU people, then you got almost have to cancel
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him out and say Tom Cruise is the winner, right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I mean, it's almost like saying Robert or is the
best basketball players on the most championship teams. Even though yes,
Bill Russell, I know.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Here's the question for you. They obviously sought out Scarlet
Johnson for this movie.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Why I think she's enough of a draw?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Are you sure about that?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And then they said, who's really good at laughing? Mahershela Ali?
We need him to laugh before and after every line?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, we have Scarleton, Hanson, Marshall al Lei, the gentleman
that plays Fierro and kid John Jonathan Bailey yep. And
then uh, who's uh who's the other guy there?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
What do you want the IMDb here? How about this?
This movie is directed by Gareth Edwards.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, he did Rogue one.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think it is written. Story by Michael Creton Critton.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's criton og.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yep and then also the og David Kepp. He wrote
Jurassic Kepp came back. Yeah, yeah, but he wrote Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah. Crickton didn't have anything to do with this. It's
just the characters based urist.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Story about it.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell you what. Kep should have never
come back this The script is bad. Story is bad.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'm not even sure if he did come back.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It is the the whole reason precipice. It jumps back
seventeen years and it throws a Snickers wrapper at you,
which I don't think it's possible. What happened? And then
at the end of the movie, good let me let
me talk about the beginning in the end of the movie, what.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
This podcast to contain to spoilers not suitable for children
or adults that don't want spoilers.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
The beginning of the movie, the Snickers rapper. I don't
know why they did that, but it also didn't make
sense because the dinosaur that escapes containment somehow was on
the other side of the glass already, even though it
didn't choose to eat people the three minutes before that.
I digress. At the end of the movie, there's a
situation with water that should have been recalling the original
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situation with water around the island, and it's just they
were fine, they were all set. It didn't matter. Cop
said they didn't matter. There's a lot of things in
this movie that you've seen before and have never asked
to see again. There's a lot of things in this
movie that aren't fun. There's a lot of characters of
this movie that aren't fun. This movie is uninteresting, it's unfunny.
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It's devoid of fun. It just exists. It's not the
worst movie ever made. It is not a movie anyone
should pay their hard earned American dollars to see.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Let me tell you what I like, and I'm not
saying this is a good movie. This is a soft
like for me. And the reason why is I think
they might be onto something. I don't think they are
moving forward all side quests. That's what I want. I
don't need a ton of plot. I don't need a
ton with the characters. I need. We need to get
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DNA from three dinosaurs. Let's go do it. The issue
in this there might not have been enough conflict. There
might not have been enough because they got all three
DNAs pretty simple. Also, we need to stop with the
mutant dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are scary enough. You can start every
movie by saying, oh shit, we found another island that
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Old white Beard didn't tell us about where they were
storing a different era of dinosaurs, and we can go
see different dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
We're so deep in to this story, this franchise that
they can't even give us real dinosaurs anymore. We have
all these made up dinosaurs. And the big bad dinosaur
in this movie looks so demented that it looks like
it's out of a bad alien.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It looks like Mac holding up a mirror to himself.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's it's so stupid, so dumb, like I don't know.
This movie is like not getting good reviews, but it's
making a lot of money. And how why? I mean,
we get twenty fourteen, Jurassic World fourteen fifteen, twenty eighteen,
we get Fallen Kingdom twenty twenty two, we get Dominion.
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Those three movies significantly better than this moviees those movies
tried to do something. Those movies had compelling moments, fun scenes.
This movie doesn't have any of that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Jurassic World is better, absolutely and also significantly. My issue
with Jurassic World is the mutated dinosaurs. Once again, if
you get rid of those. I love the idea of
we were finally able to complete the par and we
actually have people here with the dinosaurs. That's a great premise.
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I love that, But you have to make that stupid
indo raptor or Indo rex whatever it is in that movie,
which then you carry on to Fallen Kingdom, which there's
too much of it. He's fucking bugs Bunny in that movie,
and we introduce a clone girl. I want dinosaurs, I
don't want clone people. We then almost move past that.
(10:27):
We say, forget about that, let's focus on bugs and
not only bugs. You thought the dinosaurs were old. How
about the original cast? How do you feel about that?
We get them back again? They don't care learn earn.
I like, just let's move past that cast. Let's move
past the secondary cast, the Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Move past this franchise altogether.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
No, I'm not saying that move past those guys. I
like the idea of mentioning Sam Neil in these movies,
or mentioning that this is one shared universe, but we
don't need to see the characters over and over again
because I'm not rooting for people regardless. I want fodder.
I want people that could be torn up like tissue
paper every single time.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Like this.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I like this fellow. What's his name here, Rupert Friend, Yeah,
Rupert Friend. He plays Martin Krebs. He's a real asshole.
I like him.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
He plays an asshole as he does, and every time
you see him on screen, that's Rassle on Homeland. You
know exactly, you know one hundred percent what's gonna happen
in this movie from the very beginning of the movie.
I know what this also does, which we fucking hate
and we've been killing every God Zilma, God's Zilla movie
for the last thirty years for doing this. Introduces a
family we don't give a fuck about and puts them
in harm's way, and guess what, wouldn't you know it?
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The family survives. Oh wow, and another part of the family,
there's a real son of a bitch in there that
ends up being not a son of a bitch. I've
never seen that before. That's a new fucking thing. Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know what we do have to get rid of
two is when we think a dinosaur is about to
kill someone, but then another dinosaur saves the human without
them knowing. Yeah, yeah, that's happened a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let's brand new.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But I wouldn't mind moving forward if we get three
new characters, three new main characters every time, but we
don't waste time anymore. In five minutes, they say why
should we care about you? And each character gets one
minute to say lost, my son, wife left me, I'm
out here on a boat, and I'm a pirate. Now
all right, cool, move on to you, Scar Joe, what happened?
(12:31):
Mother's dead, lost a friend, I'm a mercenarian for money.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, but what you're foregoing here is and I think
we realize this. You know, in the last two movies
prior to this one, even though those were enjoyable to
certain degrees, we simply do not care about the dinosaurs anymore.
They've bastardized it so much that we do not Well, no,
so don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
There's a great scene in this I wouldn't say great.
There's a good enough scene in this where Jonathan Bailey
sees a Titanosaurus. I would know this because they have
a Titanis, dragon Sword and power Rangers. I believe it's
the big one with the neck. But he's in awe.
He's in wonder as people should be when they see dinosaurs,
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not just like, look at this long neck freak. No,
that thing's crazy and it's got really long tails, and
I think they're having sex.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Why is the guy that grew up loving dinosaurs in
awe of the mutated dinosaurs. He shouldn't be, wouldn't you
say he should be upset about this. Maybe he is,
so his reaction don't make no sense. Good.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, the Titanosaurus is not a mutated one. I'm sure
about that. The ones that are mutated. So the Spinosaurus
I believe has a slight mutation where it's now able
to be in the water more than it was because
it was in the water in Jurassic Park three. This
movie's a little bit like Jurassic Park three.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Jurassic Park three in this movie are far and away
the worst movies of.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
The first This is very similar to Jurassic Park three.
It's we need a reason to go to the island,
and it's all about like let's have a couple scares.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But there's no scares in this movie. And then when
they reveal the big bastard eight armed dinosaur, it's so
stupid looking, you're like, this can't be what they fitted
like this. They didn't finish the CG.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It looks like a RP.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, it's got little things and then big things and
the fucking it's.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
It looks terrible, that's a description.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
It would eat my head off, but I would laugh
in its face.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Oh the Snickers bar, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So stupid? And that and that set up. Goot, they
got fucking shitburg magoo eating the Snickers drops the fucking
the wrapper and then it gets sucked up somehow. There's
a little fan at the bottom of the door. It
gets sucked up, shorts out the engine or the motor
on one sliding door. But that's the door they just
went into. They've only made it like two minutes into
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that them somehow, because that door doesn't close, the whole
entire system shuts down and reads boots and opens up
like that's not a thing. That'll never be a thing.
It's never once been a thing. It was so stupid
to make that like a device to get this thing
out of its captivity like it that. Immediately, I was like, Oh,
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everything that happens after this is fucking stupid.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Are we doing spoilers right now? How do I act? I? Also,
I don't think we've spoiled anything so far.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, no, you can't exactly. You we could talk about
the whole movie and it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't matter
now you talk about the fucking amphibious dinosaur. The whole
point is they're circling around this island, they make a
point of saying, and all it's constantly circling around this island.
At the end, they take a fucking dingy out into
the same waters that they were attacked by the amphibious
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dinosaurs and the big one, and they're like, ah, we
did it. No, you fucking didn't. Where that Where did
those things go?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
It would have been funny in the first scene when
the guy dropped the Snickers bar and you're like, oh,
that's not gonna be the reason why this thing breaks out,
and a janetor just walks by and pick it up,
and he's like, that's not gonna bother this movie.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I also like, they're like, all right, seventeen years ago,
we're on this other island that you've never heard of
that they're they're they're making these bastard dinosaurs for Jurassic World,
And you're like, okay, sure, Like I don't know why
we needed a time jump though, Like you could have
just told the story seventeen years ago, but we had
to do a time jump.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We just need normal dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I think it would have been scarier in a better movie.
Number one, Yes, regular dinosaurs probably would have been a
better movie if you just said it on the island
originally seventeen years ago and these dinosaurs get out. It's
almost like that's what was the fun part about Jurassic
Park in the first place.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You know what you could have. Why haven't they tried
to do a prequel yet?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I mean that they you almost set it up for one,
but a prequel to Jurastic World for seven minutes and
then we get away from that. I like, there's no
story worth telling in this world anymore. There was a
time where I wanted a story in this world where
dinosaurs were roaming the earth and people had to become survivalists.
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We're past that because in this movie they tell you
dinosaurs can only live near the equator, And I'm like, okay,
yet to add, sure, sure find science, I get it,
but you get rid of the most fascinating aspect of
this franchise is that dinosaurs were free roaming, and now
you're like, no, let's skim past all that. Let's give
you one minute and a title card talking about how
they're no longer doing that.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I actually dazed off during that title card, and then
I was a little confused for I don't know though,
two or three minutes before I put the pieces together myself. Also,
I just thought of this, what if they did a
Halloween style requel getting rid of the previous six movies
and they set this movie in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I mean, that would be their best bet going forward.
But unfortunately they keep making money, so I don't think they're.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
These are making a lot of mine.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like I think there's there's one all time great movie
of the seven, the Original, right, the Lost World and
Jurassic I like Jurassic World second best over the Lost World.
Same Lost World is solid.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Hold on, we're gonna rank this at the end, so
keep your or tier these at the end, So keep
those to yourself. A right, I do want to Let's
just run through the gauntlet here, real quick fun factor.
I like seeing the t rex swim.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't even know if it was a t Rex.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Was it the t Rex?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Was it the mutated Rex thing we got in Jurassic World.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Was it a mutated No, that was not there. That
was not the Indigo Rex. I know that.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So why was there just a regular t Rex on
this mutated island?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Maybe it walked over.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't I don't think it was a regular was
the tail didn't look t rex tail, the face did
look t rex.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It wouldn't be the indo Rex that we saw from
the other ones because that was on a different island.
This might have happened, This might have been different.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
They were breeding those things, I mutilating those things on
this island for Jurassic.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But the other one looked more like a giant raptor.
This still looked like a Rerex, So I agree this
might have been was the first step. This might have
been a Rex that was mixed with like one other thing,
but it's a different type of spliced up rex.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah. Yeah, because I feel like they would have told
you t rex.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
But I think t rexes can swim, so.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Maybe I don't know. I don't think it matters.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
It was bad at killing that was an issue.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I also like that where it was the stream and river,
it would have just been able to stand. It didn't
need to swim.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
That was a dumb scene, too satisfactor.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I like going back to an island. I like that idea.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Wasn't even any satisfying depths either.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, because the one that you were waiting on wasn't
so telegraphed. It was also kind of silly.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I would have liked because we we got a nice
tall grass scene, but there should have been more threat
because they even talked about we're not afraid of these guys,
We're afraid of what hunts these guys. They get all
three of the DNAs in their first tries.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
The most unbelievable thing was the repelling down the rock face.
That was so ridiculous, and then there ended up just
being a staircase they could have used.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I don't know what noise I made, but it was
a noise of pure disappointment when the DNA parachuted down
to where they were after the rock face.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, they tried to be like tongue in cheek with
the humor in this movie, with that stuff. And then
the daughter's boyfriend. They tried to make him funny, but
you just wanted that guy to die and he didn't.
And after doing like the one admirable thing saving the
daughter in the first place, he sucked the rest of
the movie. You thought he would have some sort of
redemption arc. Nope, still a shit head. They should have
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killed one. The dad should have died, that would have
been something of substance.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
The girl should have died.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
The little girl, Yeah, she was annoying as fuck.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I mean might as well. That would have been something
that would have really pushed the envelope.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What's up? Why would they breed a mini triceratops.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Because it's cute?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
What the fuck? What do we what are we wasting?
He said? The average costs from mutetd dinosaurs like seventy
two million. We put seventy million into a mini triceratops.
You're kidding me.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That was a good line, though. You expect them to
tell the taxes like, we're not gonna we're gonna hide
these guys borometer, Yeah, for.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
A two hour and fifteen minute movie. You don't see
a ton of dinosaurs. There's an awful lot of person
of person stuff in here. You see the water dinosaur, Mosesaurus,
you see the amphibious ones, you get on the island,
you see like a snake in the water. Then you
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see t Rex, you see the flying guy, and then
you see the mutated thing. You see like six dinosaurs
in the whole fucking movie.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, so we compared it to Jurassic Park three, but
we're gonna give you Assic Park three credit right now.
They didn't waste a ton of time and the movie
was ninety two minutes.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, this is the worst movie in the franchise. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That might have just pushed it. But I still like this.
I still like this better than the last two. No,
the last one last the last okay, no, it's not.
Dominion was okay, Fallen Kingdom. Fallen Kingdom was good for
fifty percent of it. The other fifty percent was pretty bad.
I hate the last two.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
There was no moment in this movie you would consider good.
The other two movies prior to this had good moments.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I thought when the dinosaurs were on the screen, they
focused on them enough. Also, I like just having side
quests and saying we the story doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I also felt like not for nothing. I don't know
what the budget is in this movie. I thought the
CG on the dinosaurs was not the best. Wasn't great.
On the close up you're like eh. And then there
was actually a couple moments, especially we're on the dinghy
at the end, you could really tell they had one
of those moving screens or it was blue screen green screen.
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There was something a little off of the CG. Maybe
it was the theater I was in, but I kept reading here.
Here was the large portion of reviews that I saw.
It was like, it was not that good of a movie,
but it looks great and sounds great. I'll give it.
This score was good. They did a good job with
the score animal way they did good. It did not
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look good.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It didn't look I thought it looked pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It was two dark at points, and the only thing
that had a chance to say it looked good was
the grassy fields. And we only spent like two minutes
in it.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You mentioned the CG being bad, the jokes on you.
They actually mutated real dinosaurs. That's where the budget went.
Those were all real mac okay Halloween. Will this wane
over time?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yes, I don't know if I could have been any
lower on this movie going into it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So no, you had a real sour plus attitude.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, I didn't want to watch it. I was and
it during the viewing. I wasn't. I wasn't ready to
walk out at any point, but I knew going in
this movie wasn't gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And it wasn't a quater world better or worse than
water World. It's worse than water World.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It is nowhere near as fun.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Oh Okay, which dinosaur would you like to see attack
water World?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Though?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I'd prefer the spinosaurs because they can jump out and
also be land animals.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
They also at one point, you know, there's I don't
know what the technique is in cinema goo. We've talked
about it a little bit before, but when a movie
starts big and gets smaller and small and smaller. So
in the third act of this movie, they end up
in a tunnel system, which is like a classic thing
You've seen it in Alien. This thing it really tries
to make you feel claustrophobic. They just go into the
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tunnels one dinosaur get shot and they're fine. They don't
even use that to like their advantage. It's completely wasted.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
What was that utated dinosaur that was like it was
half wrapped or half pterodactyl and it was a little
overweight too.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, I don't know what that was called. But they
weren't very good at killing, that's for.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Sure, Spoky, I'll tell you that much. When life gives
you plemings, you make Jesse plemonade. Who did that for
you in this movie?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
All right, let's see here. You had the woman at
the beginning that didn't open the door with snickers. Guy,
that might be the only candidate.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
She was good, and then she was like, nah, I'm
not gonna let you out.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Was that dinosaur at the beginning? Was that the one
with the bald head? Is that that dinosaur?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah? I liked the raptor that had two heads.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Oh it's stuck in the cryo. Yeah, so that again,
like fucking Fierro's ah aghast that he've seen this, except
he's still like having the time of his life. His
character was terrible, bad character.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
They should have let that raptor out of the tube
and out of nowhere. It starts talking to itself and
having a conversation. One starts smoking a pipe or something.
Have a little fun. If the dinosaurs are going to
be mutated, let them talk, let them have a time.
Maybe they go to a big top circus.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
If the Snickers bar reset the whole system, that whole
basement lab, why was that thing still in the tube?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh, you can't let that out just in case.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, but they didn't have any control over it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Just in case. You don't want to let that one out.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So that was just always that was like a pendant.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Oh. You know what would have happened is if that
one got out, the raptor would go to attack someone
and as it was leaping, the other raptor head would
attack that one.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You know what we were missing in this is we
needed what's the thing in Godzilla that has the three heads?
We could have used that.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
King Goadora.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, that would have been a good fit in this movie.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
They have t rex is in those movies, though, I
think King Kong fights them.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think King Kong did fight at t Rex in
Skull Island.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
He did, and then he also fought one in the
Peter Jackson Kong movie too. The one with Jack Black. Huh,
say what you want about that movie. It looks amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'm trying to figure out. Yeah, the last two King
Kong movies Calm Godzilla movies were better than this too,
and those movies weren't good.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I really hated the last Call Godzilla movie us.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Too were not very good. I think better than this.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I don't know, Max, credit Union, who are you giving
credit to?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
The two daughters sucked? The dad was okay. The boyfriend sucked.
Scarjo was was having too much fun. She should have
been a little more subdued. Maherschel Ali maybe rehearsal Ali
sucked in this, dude, I know. But Jonathan Bailey sucked.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I liked Jonathan Bailey in it, though, No.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
His character was so poorly written.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
He is a nerd. He had to explain stuff to us.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Terrible, terrible. I hated him. Uh, you know what, credit
UNI into this. The French speaker. That guy was the
best character in the movie.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Actually credit to this too. They didn't have any of
the characters hook up.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, but they implied the Fierro and Scargo were going to.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You didn't act, but they didn't show it, and the
movie didn't need it.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And also like she's she spent her whole life doing
mercenary stuff and still has to keep doing it because
she has no money. Now all of a sudden, she's
just gonna help out the whole world instead of being
set for life. That doesn't make sense either.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Oh, I just thought of this.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
What is I can't even say her mom or mom's
already dead.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
What if that raptor with the two heads? What if
that raptor started dating itself but then after time it
had to break up and you have to see the
other fucking raptor every day.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I think there was a show on TLC about that,
but with humans.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Cat dog, Yes, that's what was. I was just thinking
about that the other day. I'm like, it's been twenty years,
twenty something years since that show. How haven't we got
a real cat doog in real life?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I watched three episodes of Hey Arnold the other night
for the first time, and.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I don't know what seasons, what season?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Season one? First three episodes good stuff, first of all,
stupid episodes in those first three amazing. I did not
remember any of the voice snat show. I was thrown
off by all of the voice acting.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It was all children. I think what you were thrown
off by is as show went on, they replaced the
voice actors, and you might have been thinking of the
later voice.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Actors, possibly possibly, well every voice I did not.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So what they would do, and this is great Jurassic
World talk, is they would let those voice actors stay
on the show, but they would give them new characters.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
In seat of just aging up the characters.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's like, hey, you know how you used to be
the main star Arnold. Now you're the wimpy teacher what
is his name, mister Simmons.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Stoop kids scared to leave a stup.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So you did three episodes that's six segments.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Maybe four?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Okay, three or four? So you did stoop kid. You
did the Arnold is Crazy episode, right, because that was
the one that played before Harry at the Spy.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't remember. I also was drinking during this, so
I was half in, half out.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
You saw the episode where Harold not Harold, Gerald and
Arnold were dressed as fruits on the bus.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes, I did see that.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Don't stop me. Now you saw is it when they
clean up the lot and they make a baseball field?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
No? Actually, that's my least favorite episode. Because the baseball
field is so unrealistic. We did see this in the
second episode. Is your first introduction to the Arnold gum
thing that held? Oh yeah, yep, I don't remember much shows.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Pipe Down Weasel. Then you also have the pigeon Man
or is it too early for the pigeon Man?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't recall it is Chocolate Boy. Chocolate Boy is
not here yet.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
No, No, that show rules.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Such a good show, great show. Are you on hot Dogs? Yes,
we are. For those of you tarty to the mac
and goop party, ho hot Dogs, hot Dogs. We've said
a lot, We've spoiled most of the movie. If that
matters to you, I'm gonna put spoiler right in the
description as an apology early on. Just I'm sorry. Spoiler
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filleds right there in the description. Twenty four hot dogs.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Oh Jesus, like I.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Said, I liked, and I like what they can do
from here. Scale back, spend less money and you'll still
make money. Think of the Roe.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
This is somewhere between eighteen and twenty hot dogs on
the given day.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Oh you laughed at my twenty four and you're like, well,
this is still pretty close.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Twenty four to twenty is a huge up, huge leap.
It's either the worst movie or the second worst movie
I've seen this year. It's this or Electric State. Electric
State at least was so bad it was good and sometimes.
This didn't have any of that. So I think if
I had to rewatch one of the two, it would
be the Electric State. So this is probably the worst
movie I've seen this year. And again, it's not even
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close to the worst movie I've ever seen or the
worst movie in the last five years. It's just so
incredibly lazy and not a movie anyone wanted or needed.
It's just just so much retread. There's nothing new. The
creatures suck, the characters suck. It's uninteresting, it doesn't look great,
the score solid, I'll give it that. It's just if
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you want to go to the movie theater to eat popcorn,
this is a good movie for that. Just don't look
at the screen.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
All right, Mac, We're not gonna go any further into spoilers.
And before we get into your sack, I would Billy
d made us another amazing tier. It's all seven Jurassic
Park World movies. I don't feel like sharing the screen,
but I'll tell you the five tiers that he has
created for us. At the bottom is d I assume
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that stands for Dick. Just above that is should have
stayed extinct. Just above that is it's a fun ride.
Just above that solid as a fossilized amber. Then at
the top only five Sweet Dino Action. I have out
of the row between sweet Dino Action and solid as
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fossilized amber, where no movie will go because I'm gonna
put the first Jurassic Park in the top tier and
none of the other movies will be within a row
of it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, but the first movie is better than sweet dyno Action.
So I don't like the names of it.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
What do you want to call it?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I don't know. Sweet dinal Action.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Is Jurassic World, actual good movie. I will then change
solid as fossilized Amber too, SDA and NSDA will be
Jurassic World. Okay, so we have two in there. Jurassic
Park is an all time movie. We have a separate
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episode on that. Please go and check it out. We
also you weren't there. I did a separate episode with
Keief with all of the top ten Sweet Dino Action
and most of it is the first movie Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I would say also to continue to sing its praises,
and also why we get so annoyed when movies like
this come out. I think Jurassic Park, you would have
a hard time not putting it in the top twenty
movies of all time, right, It's it would, It's on
the short list when people are discussing like all time
movie theater experiences. It's just it's such a unique movie,
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or was a unique movie, and so when you end
up with this bastardized version of that movie thirty two
years later, it really bothers me. It makes me upset.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Oh can you guess where I had Jurassic Park in
my dork top fifty list.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'm gonna say twelve, number four, four, number four, Wow
all time. I'm gonna look that up for me.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I'll explain while you do that. I think it covers
all the bases of being a truly entertainment movie. It
is quotable, it is action packed, it is kind of scary.
It has such memorable characters for the short amount of
time that you get them, and you have the argument,
the question throughout the whole time of should we be
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doing this? Is this sweet old man? Actually the villain
for bringing back these creatures, and it just looks it
looks so great, and the se him Neil Parton. Someone
pointed this out on X the other day of when
he first sees the dinosaurs and just doesn't say anything
and in amazement takes off his hat. It's just such
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a great scene.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
You would be hard pressed to not have Jurassic Park
in your top thirty one movies of all time?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
As I just did you have it at number thirty one?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I have it thirty first. What'shum okay? With as well?
That sort of makes sense. What it's right around? To
be fair to me, Schindler's List. The sounds of the Lambs, Jaws,
Shot of the Dead are the four right before it,
the one right after the Spider Man across the Spider Verse.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Do you want to hear my top four?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It is Good Fellas Jaws, Yes, Halloween.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Halloween is seven?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Okay? What's third?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Back to the Future?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I'm sorry that I actually misread that. Number one is
Shrek two. Number two is Shrek one. Number three is
Sharp Tail. Number four is Jerry Seinfeld as a b
number guess is Will Smith as a pigeon.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I'll give you a guest, my Mount Rushmore on.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
The Goodfellas E two Mama Town BN.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, life is beautiful as on there, but Eat.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
To Mama Town BN was actually on the top fifty
that New York Times had. I was pretty surprised. All right, yeah,
Levita Bella Vita Abella. So you have one in four Jaws.
No Jaws I just mentioned is right before. Jaws is
such a good movie too.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
It's crazy greater than Jurassic Park right.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, slightly, but like lightly. But also Jaws is like
the prerequisite to then getting Jurassic Punk greed.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I also saw in the previews in this drash Park
movie is Jurassic parker is? I mean? Jaws is coming
back to theaters obviously for its fiftieth anniversary, so I'm
very excited to see it in the theaters.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Jaws also deserves so much credit for in the time
that it was made in the middle of the seventies,
there was nothing paced like Jaws.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yep. It's a strong point, very good point.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
They hadn't created pacing yet.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
The other two in my top four are Inception I
gave up the two yeah, and Avengers Infinity War at three.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Okay, So back to this tiering, we've only gotten two
things up here so far. We have actual good movie
Jurassic Park, and we have SDA Jurassic World. Where do
you put Lost World?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I think Lost World is good enough to be an SDA.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I think it's a fun ride. I think it's just
below SDA.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I do think Jurassic World is definitively better. So I'm
okay with that.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Is it the parts are greater than its whole? Is
that what they're saying is, yeah, because there are so
like you remember and like the t rex in San
Diego not a good scene, but you do remember that.
You remember raptors in the grass? Yeah, you remember the
t rex, the mama going after the baby, and a
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trailer hanging off the bridge.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, So I guess it's fun a hair below sd A.
I'm okay with either.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
One Jurassic Park three And this is a weird one
because all it is is just dinosaur action.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You're right, you're right. So what do we so the
bottom two or should have stayed extinct or d right,
that's what we have.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I'm actually gonna change the second to last one to
a raptor speaks okay, and it goes into a raptor speaks.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So Jurassic Park three is going to go in the
fourth tier. And because of raptor speak.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I will add a row below D and D will
now be changed too.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Mah, oh, mass should go above a raptor speaks.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I will switch that. That is fine. The next one
up here is Jurassic World Dominion not Dominion, Fallen Kingdom,
Fallen Kingdom. I like that mountain scene. That's about it.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Fallen Kingdom has like three really good scenes to store.
The story that weaves them together is pretty fucking stupid.
So it gave like the dinosaur in the house was
like fucking cool.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
No, it wasn't. The dinosaur in the house. It shouldn't
have been much better. It should have been cool, and
it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
It was cool. It could have been way better good,
and it way better.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Then that stupid scene where the Indo Raptor tricks Buffalo
Bill like he fakes sleeping and then he winks at
the camera.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I'm not saying it's a good movie, but it had.
When that movie was over, I didn't regret seeing it.
I just wanted it to be much better. So it's mah,
it's mah.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I am now gonna add another row. For the next one,
add row below. I'm gonna say for this next one,
for Dominion, it's.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Old, Dominion is better and Fallen Kingdom.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I disagree.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I think it's a much better, much better movie. It
makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
No, yes, okay, So then we get to I'm gonna
clear it this row.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I guess I could do that.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I already put it in. It's old, and you could
talk about the franchise is old. You could know I'm
changed to Simmons is Old. That's even better. Simmons is Old,
and that gave.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Us some member berries. It had a couple of nice scenes.
It was fine. It was it was a fine ride.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
No, it could refer to the cast, it could refer
to the franchise, it could refer to how you feel
watching it. Simmons is Old, No, thank you. And then
the final movie here is the one that we just watched.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Uh, this movie. The more we talk it out, it's like,
in part because it's not bad enough to have a
talking raptor, there's not gonna be anything memorable. And as
you know, we get two, three, four, five years removed,
you're not gonna remember a single fucking thing about this movie,
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and so I think that makes it whatever. The lowest
tier is.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
The lowest tier is Mac hates it.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
It's the worst movie in the franchise.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
So you want to put it in the tier Mac
hates it?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yes, I hate this movie.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Okay. So we have a pretty good little list here.
Do you want to hear it?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, let's see it.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Okay, in the top row actual good movies, Jurassic Park. Yes,
in the next row called separation row, we have nothing, okay,
all right. Then we go to SDA Jurassic World, all right, Yeah,
it's a fun ride. Lost World okay, mah Fallen Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I would also put Dominion in there.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
A raptor speaks Jurassic Park. Three Simmons is old and
I stamped this Dominion. And then finally Mac hates it Rebirth.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah. I either either be worse so you're fucking laughably bad,
or don't make the movie because there's no chance this
movie was gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Let's get into Mac Sack and Mac sac could be anything.
It could be a boat and hopefully coming up at
the end of this week. It depends on Mac's schedule.
We are going to talk about. I'm gonna tease it
right now, maybe the movie of the year. I tell
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you right now, Mac, you know this about me. I
don't give two shits about Superman.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
I love this fucking movie.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Were you having so much fun that you were snickering?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I was having so much fun at this. Aw shucks,
g Willakers Superman that they have brought into our universe,
and just how much how every other character interacts with him,
how he interacts with the world. Everything in the movie.
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By the way, I'm talking about Superman. James guns Superman,
and yes, you can tell that it is a James
gun movie. But this movie is so bright and comic,
bookie and weird and take some odd turns. I love this.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
That is very encouraging here, very very encouraging here. Now,
you hated Man of Steel, correct.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I didn't hate it. I didn't like it, though in.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
General, I would say you liked Cavill's Superman, right.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I thought it was as good as it could have
been in the circumstances that he had.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
You're saying, immediately, Korn Sweat greater.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Than James Gunn's Superman, is better than Zack Snyder's is
what I'm saying. I don't want to. I don't want
to attack the actors they are doing, sure what they're
but I'll also say this is the chemistry between Corn
Sweat and Bras Nahan is way better than what we
had with Amy Adams.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, that's weird because Amy Adams is a great actress,
but she I don't know. She reminded me of Ed
Ed and Nettie's plank in the Snyder Verse.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
They're all trying to get jawbreakers and shit. But yes,
I loved it. My wife loved it. Nicholas Holtz, Lex
Luthor is such a great menacing villain.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I really like that casting for me jump.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
I also, they do such a great job of obviously
Superman can destroy anyone and anything Lex Luthor, and you
kind of get this in the trailers and the scenes
that were shared online, and he has no fear of Superman.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Uh. The only other question I have, and I am
seeing this in a couple of days, how is crypto?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
That would be my only down part right there that
I would.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Okay, not a not a crypto boy. You're out on bitcoin.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Well, let's take the dog stuff back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
It does feel like that this version of Superman, that's
how it was in the comics, though with Crypto like
it just or maybe that's a James Gun thing. I
don't know. It's it's very encouraging, UH to hear this.
And also I was pretty annoying. I could could not
go to the screening the other night, so I'm happy.
I'm happy to be going to the theater on Thursday
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at two pm for this one.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
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Public dot com mergers, go buy some stuff. Check us
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Speaker 2 (45:59):
Also, yes, you gotta watch Ironheart.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
You've three I'm three episodes in.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'm all sets in because I just watched the worst
movie of the year. You have to watch my best
movie of the year. You gotta watch twenty eight years
Later too.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Where can I find that in the movie?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
There?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
That is a reason.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
You can make time for Jurassic poop. You can make
time for twenty eight years.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I brought my nine year old cousin who loved this movie.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Maybe he'll love twenty eight years Later too.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
I should have mentioned that is that is most likely
the target audience for this movie.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Love this movie.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
He loved it.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
You didn't even get sweet title action.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
He said to me, this one was so good. I
have it just behind Fallen Kingdom and Jurassic Park. Three.
Those are his top three.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
All right, never mind, he could love it, but if
that's it, that's his rating system.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I asked him. I'm like, wait, are you including Jurassic
Park the first one? He's like, oh, yeah, that one, Yeah,
I'm including it. Okay, all right, Tuesdays or goosdays? I
have used kangaroos.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, I'm Burton. Bye. Please flip the cassette over to
side B to continue the adventure.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Now it's not for girls jumping on trampolines.
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