Legacy Sequel Tiers

With a new Spinal Tap hitting theaters - We tier the best & worst legacy sequels!


What do you think of the tiers?  Did we miss any sequels?  How many vetos and stamps would you use?


Also - We discuss possible Vegas Sphere movies and Mac likes music.


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Mac, I've heard about this. Have you seen this?
Currently at the Sphere in Las Vegas, they are playing
The Wizard of Oz and it is reportedly grossing two
million dollars a day. Ticket prices are kind of crazy.
Let's not get into that. But they spent over one

(00:21):
hundred million dollars to reimagine the Wizard of Oz a
lot of ai. They touched up a lot of stuff.
They made the screen an all encompassing events of sitting
with the big, beautiful blue skies. They also added some
techniques to recreate a tornado inside the venue, falling apples,

(00:43):
flying monkeys. Mac, I will ask you this, what movie
would you like to get the Sphere treatment?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Inception inception? That's a great one to even think about.
Seption inception with the visuals in the soundtrack in the
Sphere would be fucking it would be overwhelming. It'd be
really fucking amazing to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, because right now they are talking about licensing out
the Harry Potter movies Star Wars, and that makes sense
if you want to make money, sure tickets costing around
two hundred dollars apiece. But I'm thinking like, if you
don't want to make money. Why not try the shining
the thing A Blade Runner Blade.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Run A twenty forty nine would be exceptional there.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
It would look amazing. It's just that those movies, especially
the latter two, didn't do great when they were at
the box office.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Good I think, anyways, So when they aren't showing anything
there and there's no shows and during the day they
have like a movie experience you can go into at
the sphere that you're already paying like one hundred, one
hundred fifty dollars for. Anyways, so I would pay two
hundred bucks to see an all time great movie in
the sphere. I don't know how much I love them
cutting twenty minutes off the words of Oz, but I

(01:53):
understand the need to maybe use AI to upscale because
the screen is obviously unique. And when you shoot a
movie in what nineteen thirty six, you're not expecting thirty nine. Yeah,
good fun fact about The Wizard of Oz. They used
technicolor in that movie.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Everyone knew that. Thank you now, Mac, if you're gonna
ask me for the movies that I.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Would like to see, was getting that point too. Yes,
the matrix matrix would be cool.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Either of the dunes, but I would say Dune Too
is the way to go. But if you're gonna go
Dune Too, maybe you show it as a double feature.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I would like to see Dune and I need them
the blast sand into the.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Air and a blast sand in your face. The original
Jurassic Park would be a spectacle. You'd be in a forest,
You'd have the dinosaurs all around you.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
They could really humidify the air while you're in there too,
so you can taste the surroundings.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
And not just because it's in its fiftieth anniversary, but
I think sitting in a big blue ocean with a
giant mechanical shark terrorizing your island, Jaws would be something
else here.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, So we just watched Jaws in my dad's backyard
on a big projector screen a couple weeks ago, in
celebration of its fiftieth anniversary, and it was awesome. It
was awesome watching it outside. And you've been to my
father's before. There's a small body of water back there.
It adds to the scene, you know. It's a nice
little stream running through the backyard. So the settings there now.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Not have to get too inside baseball here. Your father's
backyard is chaos.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's a good term for it. It's a lot going on.
We're actually tomorrow night we're gonna watch Grease. There anythink
what that?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, wow? If you want to come on down and
watch Grease, You're more than welcome.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
To Mount Rushmore right now, emergency and you can tell
me Mount Rushmore to you could be five faces. We're
gonna get there eventually, okay, But I'm gonna ask you
four songs that you are gonna sing along with while
you're there.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Some are lovin Hmmm, Sandra D Me, I'm Sandre D.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
We know the song I.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Know, I know Grease Lightning leg is overrated. I'll tap
my toe to that one.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
The chicks will cream.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Though, You're the one that I want. That's three.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's four, you're right, that's three.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I didn't name Grease Lightning. I don't know what would you?
Those I think would be my top three? What am
I missing?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
The best song that does not get enough credit? Is
stranded at the drive in?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
It's okay, It's okay. What do you mean? Okay? Sorry?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
He stranded the drive in? Branded a fool? What are
they gonna say?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Monday at school?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Mad?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Crazy for me?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's a different song.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, I know, I'm just singing Greece.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
All I'm gonna say is this is that when your
father shows grease too, I better be invited.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I don't think we're showing grease too. If he showed
those grease, they're taking suggestions.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
When he shows grease too, I better be invited.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
They also want folks to dress of the era, and
I'm just gonna wear a sweatshirt and sweatpants?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Do they mean the era of the movie was released
in or the era and a lot of.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
People to dress in like fifties garb for green Well,
the movie was released in seventy eight, but it's set
in the fifties. You should go dressed in seventies garb
And to say I was confused, I'm dressed as a
theater goer. In nineteen seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
One Good three, Yeah, Job three, King of Queen Mall Street.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Entertained you. And I'm Mac and we are the Mac
and Goo program. We bring you.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
We are very very close to what this topic is.
If we went back to what our original podcast was,
it would be a legacy podcast of Mac A and
d g U.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Today good I are talking about what would you rather
have the young Sock the Red Sox young hitters cor
or the Mets young pitchers.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Core hitters, always hitters, always hitters, always hitters.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
The last time the Mets had the pictures Cinderguard, Harvey
and whoever else, they imploded after a couple of years, you.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Know, Jacob de Gram de Gram, Yeah, that was Yeah.
They also had was it who was the lefty? They had?
Was it Mats at the time. Let's not get too
deep into this. We're getting to Weedsy who was the
number four picture in the Mets twenty fifteen Rotation.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Comes won the World Series, So credit to the.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Cobs won the World Series. Mets lost in the NLCS. Also,
we started this part. Wait did they lose in the NLCS?
The Mets were in it lost to the Cubs, yet
I don't care sure. We started this podcast in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
October or September of twenty.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Fifth October of twenty fifteen, so look for us to
mention that every episode in October.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Their ten year anniversary and for our ten year anniversary,
Annis Takaria has three dollars fifty cent burritos yesterday in honor.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Which not gonna lie that's kind of what they're worth.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
They have gone drastically downhill over the last twenty In
two thousand and six, anastok Areo was peak. Now it's
dogfit it is.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I had my son he ordered a chicken burrito from
there a couple of years ago. Tasted a gasoline.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, and you didn't. You didn't ask for gas sauce,
did you.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I didn't ask for the gasoline. It was an option.
I didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
You might have hit the daddy Yankee button when you
were ordering.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
That's what I said, Hell yeah, Hell yeah, Mac. What
is the topic today?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Today? We are discussing legacy sequels. Now we are in
I would say a decade or fifteen year span here,
or even even five year span really where we have
gotten an ass ton of legacy sequels, movies that were
made based off how popular a movie was in nineteen

(07:53):
eighty seven or nineteen ninety four, and just because of
that and the lack of ideas floating around Hollywood getting
sequels to all of those movies. Name the movie from
that year, we're getting a sequel to it. And I
would say, off the top of my dome, I've really
liked like four or five. That works for me, and
everything else has been not great, Bob.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Great, because we are tearing today in honor of spinal
Tap to the End continues. That is getting a limited
release this weekend. You can see it in Boston if
you are from the area. And because we have a
lack of ideas, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I also had no idea this sequel is being made
and coming out until Good texted me three days ago
and I said, boh, what is this.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I will say this though, is every time that I
see the turns up to eleven scene, the comic timing
of why don't you just make ten louder? And the
pause Now this goes up to eleven, that might be
the perfect movie moment.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
All time, This all time, The subtlety of it is,
It's incredible.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Now, Mac, would you care to tell me what a
legacy sequel is? According to Reddit user Tom Berkenstock.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, nice sandals you have, Tom, A legacy sequel is
usually defined as long awaited sequel, usually a decade or more,
that often switches its focus to a new protagonist while
bring along one or more of the original characters.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Now, I don't want to insult Tom here because he
did give us this information, I would have switched one
of those usuallyes, I would not have used it twice
in the same sentence.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yep, that's a good point. I Also this is an
interesting one because we're in the requel era as well,
right where they'd equal muddied the water on what remakes
and sequels truly are, and really combined the two, so
you could cut them if you want. For the sake
of this, I don't think we're gonna count.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, so we're not gonna count requels because like, let's
look at the Alien franchise. The Alien franchise gave us
Romulus last year, which was a sequel to Alien two.
But we've gotten so many Alien and Prometheus movies since
Alien two, and I believe we just had one, what
with the one Danny McBride came out in like twenty

(10:12):
seventeen or something like that.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I guess the better way to phrase this is if
the legacy sequel is in the same timeline and doesn't
branch off into a new timeline, it counts. If it
starts a new timeline but still has similar characters, it
does not count.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Right, So like Halloween h two. Oh, technically by its timeline,
is a legacy sequel to Halloween two, not the rob
Zombie one, but the one from nineteen eighty one.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, I think it wreckons everything but the original.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
No, no, it goes back to Halloween two. It does, yes,
Halloween H two O does Halloween h two O does?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yes, so, but we're not counting that because it came
seven years or actually three years after Halloween six.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, amazingly. And Halloween h two Oh looks great. Halloween
six looks awful.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I don't know how they shot Halloween.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's like the Children verse Friends thing. Married with Children
overlap with Friends for like five years. One show looks
like it was shot in the twentieth century. One looks
like it was shot in the sixties.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Legacy prequels are not being counted here, So James Franco's
Wizard of Oz not on here, regrettably. I don't think
you've forgotten all about James Franco's Wizard of Oz. Yes,
I have also sequels that were meant to come out
right after the original, like saying Avatar too. I don't
think we're gonna count those.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
No, I wouldn't consider it a legacy sequel. It was
just a sequel that took a generation.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Really long time to make. Yes, And like what happens
in the movie is like right after the first one, right,
I think.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, there's yeah, that's we will now consider that.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Also, because they're television shows, we're not going to count
them in this movie teering. So like TV shows are out,
TV shows, shout out Cobra Kai, King of the Hill
and X Men ninety seven, three shows that did it right.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I'll give you one. I'll give you one.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
You haven't seen King of the Hill, do not pooh
pooh my King of.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
The True And I'm just not going to watch Cobra Kai. Bobby,
I'll give you one and a half. One and a half,
I'll take that. And because this is a Mac and
Goo tier, we each have three vetos, one stamp and
one stamp remover. So Mac, without further agoo, do you

(12:20):
want to start tiering? Let go Mac.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
The tears that we are looking at today, there are
a lot of tears, lots of colors, lots of movies.
Thank you to producer the other Billy D for helping
us out at the bottom the worst tier there is
because I don't understand this I'm gonna take it as disrespect.
Why not just make me say.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna get cleft.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Just above that is this is bad. Just above that
is lamb and tuna fish. These don't go together. Right
above that is Launchpad mcquack, a nice reintroduction to a
franchise that you can move on and do more movies with.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Just above that is we're so back. The movie did
its job. It's good. Right above that, just as good.
So we're saying just as good as the original movie.
Now we are gonna point out, like I'm not gonna
we're gonna get this in a little bit, Rocky Balboa
comes out, I believe sixteen years after Rocky five. That

(13:24):
is why we are counting it as a legacy sequel.
But for this category, for this tier, we're saying it
has to be as good as the best movie in
the franchise.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay, Roger Roger at the top.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
The tippity top cream always rises to the top, That's
what I hear. And I'm gonna cream all over this
one mac better than the original.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, and I there's three for sure off the top
of my head that that are gonna land in that tier.
I'm sure there's a fuel forgetting of so.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
But I will say this is that some movies might
be held back from getting on this tier because the
original is so good and we can't say that.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, that's true too. I mean, so there's a couple
in particular, like, for example, the Shining, It's legacy sequel
will be very interesting. How we're gonna rate that because
it's pretty dark good, but nothing's on the level of
the Shining.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
So you know, we're all about those Asterisk is plural
for asterisk aster risks.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I believe, so asterie, I don't mind astro.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Let's get started here. By the way, these are alphabetical order.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
The other billyd helped me out with this tiering. That's
why he is the producer. He is the tier master
three thousand on this show. And the first one up
here is one that he put on here, and I'm
gonna take his disrespect because I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (14:42):
It is twenty ten, the year we make contact. It
is a legacy sequel to two thousand and one, a
space Odyssey from nineteen sixty eight, coming out sixteen years
after that movie, and me having no idea.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
What this movie is?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
It only got mixed reviews.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, this is this perfect example of disrespect. I don't
understand this. I'm gonna take it as disrespect. I've never
heard of this movie.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Make the sale.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, you know what, if any of our listeners have
watched the Space Odyssey sequel, I guess, please let us
know if it's worth watching.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
The next movie up here is. I think it's wonderful.
I think it's a very good legacy sequel. But I
think they fucked up the title and it's Bad Boys
for Life. It came out in twenty twenty. It is
a legacy sequel seventeen years in the making from Bad
Boys Too. But this is the third movie in the franchise.
Why are you saying for Life in the third movie?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, So this is a hard one because this movie's
not bad. It's better than Bad Boys four, which just
came out I think two years ago. I don't think
you can really ever recapture the magic of the Bad
Boys movies. So this, like, to me, this is fine.
So what's that lamon tuna fish?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
No Lama tuna fish is these things don't go together?
Lonchepad mcquack, I was gonna say, I think this is
a good launch pad to getting three more movies out
of it.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, it did get another movie immediately made a ton
of money. So launchpad mcquack makes sense. Now.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I would use like a ducktail sounder here, But launchpad
mcquack was used all over Disney Afternoon. So there's ducktails,
there's dark Wing Duck, there is Tailspin Shared universe. He's
the lynchpin of the Shared Universe. Yes, but for here,
it's like, hey, let's make more movies. Yeah, the next
one up here from twenty twenty four. That's just last year,
thirty six years in the making. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, of course,

(16:26):
the sequel to Beetlejuice from nineteen eighty eight. I know
you liked it more than I did. I don't think
it's as good as the original, but I do think
that we are so back and we're gonna get some
more movies out of it.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
So we rewatched the original. It is one of your
all time favorite movies. Love it. I very much enjoy
that first movie. I think the second one is on
par with the first movie.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
So what do you want to do?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I would say, just as good.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I'm gonna say we're so back, and I'm gonna stamp it.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
No fuck off, there's your stamp right there.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I refuse. I don't care that it's early, all right.
I refuse to let you put it in a tear
saying that beetlejuice, beetlejuice is as good as beetlejuice.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Beetlejuice, beetlejuice, funnier, more fun. Now Keaton may not have
been as good, but everything else was probably better.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I know you can't see it because my desk is
covering the lower half of my body. Yeah, but I
am donald ducking it and my foot is down.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
All right, stamped, So you're stamping beetlejuice. Beetlejuice says We're
so back.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Next one up here is thirty years in the making,
and that is from twenty twenty four Beverly Hills cop axel.
It should say axel F. I forgot to put the
F in there. Oh, but the Beverly Hills cop three
came out in nineteen ninety four. The original one came
out in the eighties. The original one is quite good.
It's always on National Lampoon Network. And this is Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I refuse to watch it, so, yeah, I took it
as disrespect. Where do you want to put it?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
It might be lamb and tuna fish.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Oh, it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad. All right, Fine,
you didn't see it. I know I'm not going to
fight over something I haven't seen.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, I'm a stanfton there it's the one you haven't seen.
I don't care. Let's go on to from twenty twenty
Bill and Ted Face the Music. This is twenty nine
years after the sequel Bogus Journey Mac. Where do you
fall on? Face the Music?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
You know what? I think we're gonna come into a
common theme here. I also didn't see this because I
don't want these movies so disrespect for me.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I didn't like it. I would say more than it's bad, Okay,
I don't think it's disrespectful. And also I love Keanu Reeves.
When they're like, hey, do you want to do this,
He's like, yeah, I'll help up my buddies. Yeah, I'll
do this. So I get that really more for Keanu Reeves.
Anything else here, Mac. The next one up here I
think is gonna be one of your crown jewels and

(19:02):
that is from twenty seventeen, a legacy sequel thirty five
years in the making, to a cult classic, a movie
that didn't even do that well at the box office,
and that is Blade Runner twenty forty nine.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, so Blade Runner is obviously a cult classic. There's
also like three editions of it, and that just further
confused the fandom. There is a particular version that most
people prefer. I think the original Blade Runner's solid, okay,
a iconic sci fi movie. Blade Runner twenty forty nine

(19:36):
is a fucking masterpiece.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
It's credit right, I assume you're gonna put it.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, Denis Villeneuve, It's better than the original by a lot.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'll let you leave it there. I'm gonna trust in
Mac the next one up here, Mack twelve years in
the making. It is a comedy sequel twenty oh six.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Clerks two.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Clerks two is okay. Yeah, Clerks two is okay. Clerks
two is okay. Launch no, because it didn't even okay.
So is it a legacy sequel or is it a
trend when Kevin Smith makes a Clerks movie every dozen years.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's a good question. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I can't say Launchpad mcquack.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
This is like borderline legacy sequel, like it barely counts.
I suppose because it's just over a decade. I don't know.
You're the Clerks guy, you rate it.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I don't know, because it's not I guess I'll go
lamb and tuna fish. But it's the better of the
lamb and tuna fish.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
That's fair. At the top of the lamb and tuna fish.
It's more lamb than tuna fish. Or it's more tunafish
than lamb.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
This one's in color, and the original one was in
black and white.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, there you go, technicolor.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
It was tough to take in the next one up
here is from twenty twenty two, Clark's Three, sixteen years.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
After Clerk's two.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Did not watch it, Okay, so I will say this, well,
Clerk's two is funnier. Clerk's three kicked me in the dick.
Clerk's three. Actually, I cried at the end of Clark's.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I specifically remember you giving me the note of you
cried at the end of Clerks three.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
What I hate about me explaining Clerks three to you.
I explained the entire movie to you. It's roughly fifteen
minutes of me telling you about it. I wish I
recorded your reaction to me telling you about Clerks three.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, that was better than the movie.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
The movie is okay, but I think the end of
the movie really put it over the top for me.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
So Lamb and Tuna Fish again, it.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Might be a Lamb and Tuna Fish.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Definitely. It definitely wasn't bad according to your description.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
No, and Elias, much like in the second one, is
still pretty funny. It happens at the beginning of the movie,
but they immediately kill off Rosario Dawson and the child's
that her and Dante had conceived. In the second was like,
there's a lot of depressing shit. There is some funny
stuff in there. It's not launch Pad mcquack because we're

(21:48):
not getting a Clerk's four No, No, but it might
launch Pad mcquack a mall Rats two though. How do
you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
A backdoor legacy sequel that might be a TV show.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
We don't know. Top of Lamittuna Fish, it's better than
Clerk's too.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Ooh is that the hot take sounder?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
It might be, But also I'm very confused about Lamontuna Fish. Now,
I don't know how I feel about it. Yeah, let's
go on to another Eddie Murphy movie. That was how
many years in the making, thirty four years in the making,
hot off the back of nineteen eighty seven's Coming to America.
Twenty twenty one gave us Coming to America this is bad.

(22:26):
This one sucks.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
This is bad. Is it disrespectful? Though at the time
I wasn't super disrespected, only because we were coming out
of COVID year and we sort of were like, Okay,
I'll watch anything.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
It's bad. Mac from twenty nineteen, twenty fifteen, Sorry about that.
Nine years in the making. After Rocky Balboa in twenty
oh six, Creed starring Michael B. Jordan.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I think Rocky and Rocky three, a Rocky four, Rocky.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Four's you're just saying numbers now, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
The two best Rockies, very good, very good movies. Creed
is better than any Rocky movie better.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
So I think it's arguably and this might put it
at the top. I think it's arguably the best Rocky movie.
I think you could fight me with Rocky one, you
could fight me with Rocky two. As like as movies,
Creed's better. Now you could tell me that Rocky three
and Rocky four are wildly entertaining, and I'll say yes

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they are.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, Rocky five one of the worst movies ever made.
Rocky Balboa just kind of met Creed legitimately fantastic, great movie.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
I'll go better than the original. I think it is
with you. I think I'm with you there. Yeah, especially
like that's a tall task.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
The two that we've put up there, twenty forty nine
and Creed were two of the three that came to
mind immediately.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Now let's look at one of the most disappointing movies
maybe ever, twenty fourteen Dumb and Dumber two spelled t
twenty years after the original one from nineteen ninety four.
I'll take this as disrespect.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Bob Saget is hysterical in this movie, Okay, downright hysterical,
and that scene in the bathroom killed me. Outside of that,
the movie's pretty fucking bad. The movie's pretty bad. So
I don't know. I had a legitimate laugh during the movie,
So I don't know how to rate that.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
So, like, there's also a big difference in the feel
of the movie of like, this one feels mean spirit
it does.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
That is true.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
That is true, and for that you just want to
say bad.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it is disrespectful. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I don't know. We can move stuff around later on,
by the way, Yeah yeah, maybe once we see everything
up there, we'll move some stuff around.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
The next one up here is actually pretty good, a
real sleeper hit if you ask me, twenty nineteen's Doctors
Sleep thirty seven years after the Shining. It's not as
good as The Shining.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
So yeah, it's not as good as one of like
the five greatest horror movies. Like The Ceiling is only
so back? Yeah, exactly. And I do think it's We're
so back because going into that I was like, there's
no chance this is even close to the original, And
you know what, it got as close as a movie
could get to The Shining. I think that movie's pretty
fucking good. Uh what's her name? I know her name.

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I love her face. She was in the Mission Impossible movies.
She stars in Silo Rebecca Rebecca Ferguson, Becky Ferguson. Yeah,
she's amazing in it. You McGregor's great in it. It's
a We're So back folk show.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
We're so back. The next one up here is from
this year, and I haven't seen it. Freaky or Friday two,
twenty two years after Freaky Friday, the Lindsay Lohan and
Jamie Lee Curtis movie. Once again, I haven't seen it.
I've heard good things.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I also have heard good things, and it sounds like
it could be a launch pad.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Let's say a launch pad. Let's not get too high
on a movie we haven't seen it. Sounds like we're
gonna get what's the next? How how can we get
freakier than Freaky?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Too Freaky to Friday?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Well, no, that that'd be the second one. Too freak
Freaky or Friday.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
O fucking crushed it. That came together?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Nice year Friday?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Love that?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Okay, we did it? Guys? Should we end the podcast here?
They stopped in the f's. I don't know why the
next one up here? I fucking hated. Yeah, maybe I'm
just stopped this movie. I'm not the audience. Pixar over
the last dozen or so years has an issue of
trying to figure out who their audience is for their movies.
This one I think geared too young, which that's not

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an issue for them. They make money off it. But
twenty sixteen's Finding Dory thirteen years after Finding Nemo. I
think it's bad.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, it's sort of Lamb and tuna Fish. I think
because it's like it.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Might be the definition of lamb and tuna fish.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
It's just like you took a beloved character from a
movie and built a whole movie around it that became
incredibly annoying. Like five minutes in.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
And you shoe in the two original characters from the
original movie.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Doesn't go together.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
This is Lamb and tuna fish. Agreed, Agreed, This is
absolutely lamon tuna Fish. Which is tough because I have
two movies in there that I don't mind and then
a movie that I hate. What a conundrum. How about
Gladiator two from last year twenty four years after Gladiator?
It was okay, it was okay, enjoyable, so.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
It wasn't bad. But ah, man, does it fit in
lamon Tuna Fish or is it bad? It's not launch Pad, right,
It's for sure not launch Pad. I think in fact,
it killed any ideas of continuing to operate in that timeline.
I'll say, lamontoona, let's go lamintuna Fish for now.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm glad Lamon Tuna Fish on Gladiator two this next one,
although it has launched us into sequels and probably a trilogy.
Ghostbusters After Life thirty seven years after Ghostbusters two, but wait,
are we counting Ghostbusters twenty sixteen?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Ghostbush twenty sixteen?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I think was it's a new continuity because it's the
Kate McKinnon one, and the original Ghostbusters are in it,
but they play different characters.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yes, so that we're not gonna do that. Throwing Away
after Life was disappointing, but it made a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
It's oddly Launchpad mcquack. But I think it's bad, and
I think the sequel is bad.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
So the bottom of Launchpad mcquack and you and I also,
you know, Stranger Things has done this, and there's a
Stranger Things character or actor in that movie. But we
got into this pattern of like reviving and it is
a very eighties thing, like these kid quests, you know,
and it just gets old, and then they got very
old and Ghostbusters Afterlife, all right.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
The next one up here is from twenty eighteen. It
is Halloween. The previous Halloween movie that came out was
Rob Zombies Halloween two from twenty oh nine, not to
be confused with nineteen eighty one's Halloween two. But it
was the sequel to the original Halloween from nineteen seventy eight,
which is not to be confused with the Halloween remake

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from Rob Zombie and this specific movie. So it's the
first in the original sequence since Resurrection that came out
in twenty oh two. But it's also a requel that
goes all the way back to nineteen seventy eight's Halloween,
not to be confused with Rob Zombie's twenty oh seven
Halloween and this Halloween.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
All right, we're talking about the McBride Halloween movie here, Yes,
and it only jumps off the first movie or the
second movie.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Only the first movie.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Okay, that's what I thought. I got I knew that,
and you confused me by just going through that.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
But also because it is because it does include that
first movie, and it's still the first in the uh
since the lineage ended in twenty oh two. Gotcha, it's
really the first sense resurrection.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
So technicality, maybe it shouldn't be on here, but it
it is.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
So this is launchpad mcquack to a tee quintessential Launchpad
mcquest Yeah, it was top. It was solid, good enough
that we were looking forward to the rest of the trilogy,
and then it got substantially worse in the second and
all time bad in the third. Like at first you
could have said, we're so back, and maybe if the sequels,
if they paid off, maybe we are so back. But

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the sequel sucked. And you say the first one's a
good little launch pad mcquest, Well, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
What compare and it's hard to compare it because the
only attempt at a sequel of The Shining is Doctor Sleep,
and we've had ten Halloween sequels, but Doctor Sleep is
much better than the Halloween requel.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Mac In twenty twenty five, the Year of Our Lord,
Happy Gilmore two came out. This came out twenty nine
years after Happy Gilmore won in nineteen ninety six. Lamon
Tuna Fish, Okay, I was gonna go this is bad,
but there were there was like three good scenes in
the movie.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
So I'm okay with Lamontuna Fish. Yeah, but how do
you feel about like.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Cameos Gammel the movie, And like the second act is
kind of fun.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
The third act, you know what, The first two acts
are funny slash fine, the third act is all time bat.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Also, let's go ahead and you know lamb and tuna
fishes from an Adam Sandler movie.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Good enough, there you go, he sold me.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Or we could add another one there and put it
in we suck again. We're only gonna use Rob ste
We're only gonna use Rob Schneider. Quotes from Adam Sandler movies.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
You can all the movies.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
He plays the same character and says the same lines
playing a carrot in twenty oh two, No sorry, twenty
twenty two. Hocus Pocus two came out twenty nine years
after the nineteen ninety three cult a cult classic. Mac
I fucking hated this movie.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
So if you're new to the podcast here you haven't
heard of, go and I talk about the original Hokus
Pocus in a while.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
The Hoka Poka we do the hooke, the Hoka Poka PoCA,
John Candy.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
The original hocus Pocus stinks. It's not a good movie.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I hate it.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I don't like I did not need a sequel, so
I was offended disrespected that they made a sequel.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Hear me out, and this is gonna put us in
hot water carrot sign facing Halloween Town easily easily.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
First two Halloween Town movies way better than the first
two hocus Pocus movies.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
All right, hocus Pocus two is disrespectful. Don't let any
white girls see that. The next one up here, mac
is this is borderline. And I'm not even sure if
it is a legacy sequel because it picks up almost
the day after. There is no growth from our characters,
even though there's been fourteen years between movies. And that

(32:45):
is Incredibles too, twenty eighteen after Incredibles twenty oh four.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, this is a hard one to rate because the
first one's all time great, second one was decent, was decent,
but I don't know. It's not a launch pred so
maybe we're so back.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
It's we're so back. It's a good movie. It's a
good movie, but it's not as good, not nearly as
And it's also, hear me out, not a legacy sequel.
So when someone sees this and says it's not a
legacy sequel, I'll say.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Sure, good enough, but by death ignition.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
If you ask Reddit user birkenstock McGee, it is yea
and Birkenstock McGee. He runs this show.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
He fights people over this stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Let's go on to twenty sixteen, when Independence Day Resurgence
came out thirty years now, twenty years after Independence Day
from nineteen ninety six, No Will Smith, Big problems.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Big problems. I will say this is the type of
movie that I'm okay with legacy sequeling. It's in that
top gun range right where the first movie no one
took all that serious is fun or as good or
Welcome to Earth or lack of successful it was. It's
just in that weird operation where you can fuck around
in the Independence Day world if you want, and it's

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not going to bother me. This movie is not good.
This movie is not good.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I'm gonna put it in. It's bad.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, but I'm okay with the attempt of a sequel. Here.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Let's go into one of your favorite movies of all
time from twenty oh eight, nineteen years after the Last Crusade,
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Grace
the screen.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I know I'm in the minority here. Kind of liked
this movie, kind of liked it. In two thousand and eight,
I watched it and I said, I enjoyed that movie.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Was your favorite part him swinging in the jungle with
the monkeys.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
With seventeen years of retrospect and being able to take
in other people's opinions. I recognize the issues with it. It's
not a launch pad because it did. Nothing came out
right afterwards. If you asked me in two thousand and eight,
I would have said, we're so back. I think it
fits appropriately into the Lamon Tuna Fish.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
When Mac was walking out of the theater, someone from
Disney actually said to him, hey, so what do you
think of this movie? And Mac just goes, We're so bad.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
So back, so back, Sign shy up for a three
movie deal.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
It was weirdly on the DVD cover it said, We're
so back, signshy up for three movies.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Dash Max, I'm a Shia guy. We're coming off Disturbia,
Eagle Eye, this Transformers. He had a hell of a
run in the late two thousands.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Absolutely, let's go on to the next Indiana Jones movie
that came out fifteen years after Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I didn't put this on the tier. Where did I?
Lambit Tuna Fish?

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yes, Lambin Tuna Fish.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
After Clerks, though, the next Indiana Jones movie I think sucks.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah. I refuse to watch this one out of solidarity
for Crystal Skull. So it's worse than Crystal Skull, right
it is.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
I think it's a little bit better, But also I
have no conviction behind what I'm saying. Right now, you
are super into fucking Crystal Skull. It's weird how much
you like Crystal Shy.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
They're trying to hand Shy of the mantle. It didn't work.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
In this movie. He rides a horse through the subway
system and then you know what, boiler alert. He travels
back in time.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Here's why they're on different tiers. They tried to hand
the mantle off the Shia. It didn't work. You know
that's better then though, trying to keep the mantle going
with a ninety year old Harrison Ford.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
And every time that like it's like, hey, Indy, come
over here, and you see him start to run it
then cuts away because he can no longer run right,
right right, Let's go on to the next one here
that this might be an insult, this one, this one
might be. This was a rough fucking watch. I'm a

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big fan of what Kevin Smith has done in the past,
but when he gave us Jay and Silent Bob reboot,
which is a legacy sequel, too, Strikes Back, which is
also a legacy sequel to all of his movies eighteen
years later, although does.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
It count as well?

Speaker 1 (36:44):
This is before Clerk's three. But I don't know. This
is really fucking bad though, Yeah it was. I might
have laughed once.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
It was pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
You watched it, right, Yeah it's not.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Was it disrespectful or bad?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I'm not like a Jane silent Bob guy, so I
like didn't care they were making another one, like in
You're from your perspective, I could see it being disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
The next one up here is tough because it is
coming from a lineage of what I think is one
of the best movies of all time. It is twenty
fifteen's Jurassic World, fourteen years after Jurassic Park three in
twenty oh one, and it's not as good as Jurassic Park,
but it's as good as some of these other movies

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on this board. Is it We're So Back or is
it Launchpad mcquack.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
It's the second best Jurassic movie according to me, so
I think it's We're So Back.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
But it's lower than Sleep.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, you're probably right that Jurassic World's a fun movie.
But yeah, you're probably the world is good. You're probably right.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
I went on the Jurassic World ride at Universal Fun
might be the third best Jurassic Park movie.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Oh and it did. Like the minute we left there,
there was no question whether it was a launch pad.
You were like, oh, we're like, we're looking forward to
what they got good.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Like we are in the air with blue right now,
we're flying that fucking skinner across. It's a seaplane, I believe.
How about Djumanji Welcome to the Jungle, And this is
a difficult one.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
This is a hard one. This is a hard one.
I like it.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I could see people saying this is better because it's
almost a different genre than the nineteen ninety five movie.
I don't think it is.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Though I love the ninety five movie. I enjoyed the
twenty seventeen movie. I don't know. It was like a
pleasant surprise for me though, So I wouldn't say we're
so back. Maybe it's a launch pad.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Also, outside of the name Jumanji and the fact that
there are animals in there, Jumanji into Jumanji out of
there's nothing similar between these two movies.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
True that's true. It's like a reimagining, but still in
the same timeline. Launch Pad, I'd.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Say, if it's well, and they also they go into
a video game that came out before the nineteen ninety
five movie. Yeah, yeah, so maybe, but they went into
like an n E S game.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, yeah, you're right about that.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I think we're so back.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Launch Pad, I'd say launch.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
And the first one's good. Remember Jack Black in the
first one. Yeah, i'd say lunch Pad, Launchpad mcquack. So yeah,
go talk to the back. Okay, all right, how about
this one here. I don't think you're gonna agree with me,
but I think it's better than the original. It is
twenty fifteen's Mad Max Fury Road, the first Mad Max
movie since nineteen eighty five, thirty years in the making.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I'm just not a big fan of this franchise. In fact,
I liked The Anutility Joy Firiosa more than this and
the original. But all that said, I think they operate
roughly in the same same world, So I'm gonna stamp
it in just as good. Oh you bitch, Yeah, yeah,

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that's why you save a stamp, Goo, That's why you
save a stamp.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Right there, Hey, if I I did Instant Beetlejuice Beetlejuice,
we would have made a new tier just called Beetlejuice
Beetle Juice Beetlejuice that Mac would have used.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Mad Max fury Road I think is worse than Furiosa,
and I don't care if you like it more than
the original, so just as good you suck.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
The next one up here is a sequel a lot
of years in the making. I'm not doing the math
right now. The original one from nineteen sixty four. The
sequel in twenty eighteen starring Emily Bluns. That is top
of a head math right there, unless you're doing Do
you have a Texas instrument right below you?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
No? TI eighty three or four? All right?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Well, Mary Poppins returns. I never saw this. It got
pretty good reviews, but also I think it's disrespect How
dare you?

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I know? I like Emily Blunt though like I wasn't.
I don't think I was disrespected that they were doing it,
but it's hard Like, yeah, maybe it is disrespectful. I
don't put it in disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Especially when Julie Andrews had her own movie at the theater.
Is at the exact same time.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
That's a good point, that's straight up.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
She was in the first Aquaman movie. She played a
Sie monster, the great Julie Andrews. All Right, Mac, I
forget how you felt about this movie. But eighteen years
after the third Matrix movie twenty twenty one, the Matrix Resurrections.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Came movie sticks. This movie stinks?

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Is it bad or disrespectful?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Well, the Matrix Revolutions kind of stinks. So I did
expect the original one. No back to the original, true,
but there was a glimmer of hope it could reignite
what made the franchise special. So I won't I won't
say disrespectful, but this movie is bad.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
I'll put it right next to Bill and Ted. Let's
go on to a movie that I just saw from
this year, The Naked Gun thirty one years after Naked
Gun thirty three and a third, the Final Insult. Now, Mac,
I've already mentioned this. I'm not the biggest fan of
the first Naked Gun movie. This one has similar joke pace,

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not a ton of belly laughs, but a decent batting
average on their jokes that they are spitting at us
every ten to fifteen seconds. It might be as good
as the original.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, I from the way you're talking about it, this
is your fury, road put it in justice, kid, this.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Is my fury. Let's go on to what is next? Oh,
twenty years in the making after Rambo three? Rambo from
twentyh eight, Mac, what do you think of this Rambo movie?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
So First Blood I think is one of the greatest
movies ever made. Every Rambo movie after that, I think
you could argue is just not straight up not a
good movie. But it's They're all sort of the same.
So if you compare this to the original, it's bad.
If you compare it to all the sequels, it's probably

(43:06):
I don't know, in line with them.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I'm gonna say it's bad. But this next one, Rambo
Last Blood from twenty nineteen, eleven years after Rambo, This
is hilariously bad.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
So I have not seen this one.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
It's got this giant machine gun just set up for
him because he can't really move around a lot and
he's just blasting people away.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Okay, so where would you put that then?

Speaker 1 (43:30):
I don't know. Old Man porn was really hot at
the time. With twenty nineteen still is this might be
the top of this is bad. This might be right
there with the Indiana Jones movie.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
All Right, okay, same vein.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I guess neither can run both stand there and just
do shit. In nineteen eighty five, we got a sequel
forty six years in the making, Return to Oz. Of course,
the sequel to the Wizard of Oz. This is nightmare fuel.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I haven't seen this movie. This is what I've been
mean to watch for a while. Well, I guess I'll
lean on you for this one. I I feel like
this is pretty divisive. Some people love this movie.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I am gonna say this might be top of Lambon
Tuna Fish.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Okay, you know what, this is weird that works. That works.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
It's weird, and it's definitely not for everyone. Don't show
anyone under the age of seventeen. How about another Rocky movie,
Rocky Balboa, sixteen years after Rocky five in twenty oh six.
This is a big old man sandwich.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah, it's not bad. It is kind of boring, but
it's honestly a little better as a movie than you
expected based on Rocky five.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Also, this might give us the best Rocky inspirational speech
when he's talking to Medio event That me yeah, his
son about you know, life ain't all butterflies in kissing?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Is that what he says? Biscuits? I don't know, white
been old butterfly and biscuits? You know?

Speaker 1 (44:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
What is he? What the fuck? You? Sounded like the
Brisk version of Rocky.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
That's the best version, that one in the Babe Ruth
version of uh in brisk too.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I could go for a brisk Do they still sell
brist I don't know. I'n't seen one in years.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
It's brisk baby, that's my mick from the Brisk commercials.
Who else was it a Brisk commercial? It was Rocky Balboa,
it was Babe Rute. So they got the two best
athletes right there.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Because they had it was like the cartoons.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
They looked like celebrity deathmatch cartoons.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Lipped in Brisk puppet compilation, I'm not here to read.
Was Eminem in one?

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Oh? Eminem might have been in one? Oh?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Eminem was in one? They had Frank Sinatra, Ozzy Osbourne
did one oh, and Reggie Jackson.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I do remember Riche Jackson though, I'll tell.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
It right now. Though, if if Brisk wants to sponsor
the podcast and turn us into weird, uh melting pieces
of clay. I'm in for that. Rocky Balboa is lamb
in tuna fish. To answer your question from the beginning, Mac, yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes from twenty oh two, would not to be confused
with the nineteen ninety six movie Scream twelve years after

(46:08):
Scream twenty two. What did I say twenty oh two?
I said, twenty twenty two? He did, Now, yeah, that's
what I said. Okay, uh, this this might be We're
so back. This is a solid Scream movie and it's
better than the Halloween movie.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, you're right. I think you're right. Bottom of where?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
So back bottom of whereso back? We get Nev Campbell,
we get David Arquette, who you know what this is
why they're here. I don't know how they pulled it together. Yeah,
David Arquette is serviceable in this movie.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
And if you look at the movies in that tier,
I think it fits in pretty well with the quality
of those movies.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
The next one up here might be the tippy top
of what we're doing here, because I think it is
way better than the original movie that I'm not the
biggest fan of this movie. It's kiss keep it simple stupid.
Put me in the fucking what do you call the
jet plane? The cockpit of the jet plane? Give me

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some big cock pits and let me sit in there
with our boy Tom Cruise. From twenty oh two, not
twenty oh two. I keep saying that I thought I'm
being wrong. From twenty twenty two, thirty six years after
the original Top Gun Maverick. This is better than the original.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, I don't think it's as good as twenty forty
nine though.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
But how is it compared to the other one. You
think that Blade Runner is better than Top Gun?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, probably is, but I still think twenty well, look
at that nine is a masterpiece, a master.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Think of the math though, Think of the math? How
much better is it than the original?

Speaker 2 (47:43):
No? I don't have it reviewed the other two. We
probably should have done that first. This is like sort
of exactly what we're talking about here, a movie that
you know a lot of people do love. Admittedly I
love the original Top Gun, you and I and our
age range don't. However, the enjoyment we got out of
Top Gun Maverick was unmatched by most movies. It was

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so good I watched it on a plane six months
after it came out because I hated the first movie
so much.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
And you asked the stewardess. He said, could I please
have a pilot hat and a little steering wheel? And
they gave it to you as you sat there and
watched Top Guns.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Top Gun, Maverick is fucking awesome. It's fucking awesome, and
I think people that even love the original will tell
you this is a better movie.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
How about this next one, which I think is just
as good as the original movie because it's almost the
exact same movie. Twenty twenty four Twisters, twenty eight years
after Twister, I would say it is just as good.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah, you're probably right. I was honestly a little disappointed.
It was a solid movie. But Twister is not the
greatest movie ever, so I guess that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
This next one here, I think is a very good movie,
but it's not as good as the first two movies.
And that is Toy Story three. I would say that
we are so back though.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, can't really classify as a launch pad either, right
because of the way picture.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Well, it did give us Toy Story four that came
out nine years after, right, right, So now we're getting
Toy Story five. Toy story with twenty twenty six next year. Yeah,
that's seven years after that one.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Oh it's a weird, Oh my lord, weird situation. I
would agree, we're so back.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
I put it above Incredibles too.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I like all of those movies. Let me explain.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Myself, let me explain why it's a better legacy sequel
than Incredibles two.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
The ending stinks.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
It advances the age of Andy, and we passed the
toys off to a new kid.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
The toy should have died. I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Well, I think at the end of every one of
these episodes people wish that you would.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, I'd say that's an accurate, accurate guess.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
I was actually thinking about this the other day, and
you know, pretty grim. If one of us died during
a podcast, it's the responsibility of the other person to
still post the podcast, right.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, I'd have a lot harder time I'm trying to
figure out how to post the podcast, and you would,
But I would have a much you'd have a lot
of hard time trying to get me help than I
would for you. I guess.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Also, we'd have to figure out how we die, because
if it's something that we can't post, you know, we
can clip it for social media at least'll blur it out.
Twenty ten, We've got a twenty eight year in the
making sequel, Tron Legacy. But also is this a trend
for just how they release Tron movies every twenty years?

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, we're getting another one this year, I think. Yeah,
Tron Legacy is pretty good. Gu it's either just as
much better. It's just as good. It might be better
the first thing. It's better. The first one's like cult
classic stuff. But I don't love it. You what are
you feeling on this?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
I was leaning more like, we're so back, so maybe
we split the difference. Let's go to the Baby and
the Bathwater. Yeah, and then finally, this movie fucking sucks
at hell And that is the Applegate twenty fifteen's Vacation.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Mac.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
This is I think might be at the top of
the disrespectful tier this.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Is or at the bottom. Everyone her phrase it, Oh
good point. Yeah, I don't know which one's worst, top
or bottom.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
This is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
It's not funny, and none of the dialogue is funny.
None of the gags are funny.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Ed helms owes so much of his life to season
three of the Office, because after season three of the Office,
he's been pretty much unfunny, and he got a whole better.
He got a whole decade, if not more, work off
of this, getting paid quite quite well, quite handsomely Hangover
Movies Health. But again he's the least funny part of
the Hangover movies. Yeah, I I this is a borderline unwatchable.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
All right, So I will read through the movies that
are on our tiars mac. If at any point you
think we need to move something, because you have three vetos,
I have three vetos, and we each have two stamp removers,
let me know and I will let you know. Okay,
let's start at the top. We have three in better
than the original. We have Blade Runner twenty forty nine,

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Top Gun, Maverick and Creed love that tear.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
I think those are head and shoulders above everything else we've.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Talked about, just as good, Mad Max Fury Road, you've
already stamped it in to just as good. We have
the Naked Gun from this past year, Twisters and Tron Legacy.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
I'm okay with this. Stare It's an awkward tear, but
it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Next one up here, We're so back, and some of
these movies are capped by how good the original one is,
so they couldn't be just as good as the original.
We have Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, which I have stamped in this
category just to get you off my ass, Doctor Sleep,
Jurassic World, Toy Story three, Incredibles, To and Scream.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
I don't think I want to move anything up. You
could maybe move Scream down, but I like Scream enough
to keep it where it is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
I like Scream enough to separate it from those launch
Pads mcquacks.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, yeah, you know what. You're right, it's better than
those ones below it.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
How about Launchpad mcquack, which then started off a new
franchise if you will. We have twenty eighteen's Halloween, Jumanji,
Welcome to the Jungle, Bad Boys for Life, Freakier Friday two,
and Ghostbusters After Life.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
After Life might have to go down.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, After Life stinks.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I like those other movies considerably more than I liked
After Life, and that's even without having seen Freakier Friday.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Freak We shouldn't give After Life that much credit.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, it just made a ton of money, is the
whole thing. But according to you and I, Lamon Tuna Fish.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Now, let's go to Lamb and Tuna Fish, which return
to Oz do we want to move that one up.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
It's not a launch pad though, You're right.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
After that, they said, we're never going back to us,
Locked the Gate, Clark's Three, Clark's Two, Ghostbusters, After Life,
Indiana Jones, and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, which
we are giving way too much credits.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Getting a lot of credit, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Axel f Finding Dory, Happy Gilmore two and Rocky Balboa.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
But if Happy Gilmore two is gonna be here, Crystal
skulls okap.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Next category up here, next tier up here? Is this
is bad? We have Indiana Jones, I went back in
time and punched a pie Rambo Matrix. Resurrections, the latest
in the Bill and Ted franchise coming to America, Dumb
and Dumber two. Independence Day Resurgence. What is the Independence

(54:28):
Day here?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Resurgence. There's a lot of resurgence resurrections. Yeah, a lot
of ours in sequels, Returns Jay and Silent Bob, Reboots
and Rambo, Dumb and Dumber.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Two might have to go down despite the one really
funny scene.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
All right, I'm perfectly fine with that. Yeah, so that's
now at the top of Because I don't understand this,
I'm gonna take it as disrespect yep, okay, okay. Dumb
and Dumber two twenty ten. What is this movie called
The Year We Make Contact? Only because I didn't know
it was a thing, So that's definitely disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
So I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
We have Hocus to pocus up here. We got a
Mary Poppins too, which probably deserves a little more respect'n.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
But you know what, all right, do it? Lamit Tuna Fish?
Oh you know what? It got decent reviews seventy nine
percent critics, sixty five percent audience. Lambit Tuna Fish is fine.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
And then, finally, maybe the most disrespectful of all of
these movies is starring Ed Helms twenty fifteen's Vacation.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, we crushed a you. That's the best tearing we've
ever done.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yea, let's get into Max Sack and Max Sack could
be anything. It could be about. Hey, Mac, I've heard
this about you. Yeah, you like music.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I'm a fan of music.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Why do you ask, Well, I know that you went
to a concert last night. Yeah you saw Doula peep.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yep d La peepe all. I'll tell you a gu
So me and friend of the podcast Billy the Original
Billy d we are like the biggest fans of pop music.
I don't know why or how. I don't know why
the way we are do a lipa other than like
Olivia Rodrigo, But obviously Taylor Swift is on another level.

(56:20):
I don't care for her, but she has her fans.
Do alipa is like the best thing going right now.
Incredible performer, singer, dancer. Her songs get your ass off
the seat, an all ages crowd type of thing. I
can't recommend do a lipa enough to the folks.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
All Right, you mentioned being a huge fan of pop.
Top of your mind right now, Mount Rushmore, your top
four carrents pop stars.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Olivia Rodrigo, do a lipa chapel roone. People would want
to say Sabrina Carpenter. I think she gets it. I
think she's fun, so let's throw her in there. Personal preference,
I would say Renee Rap is making better music than
Sabrina Carpenter. But Sabrina Carpenter probably deserves the nod.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Another mount rushmore in your face, All time pomp.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Stars, all time pop stars. Four please, Michael Jackson, Madonna.
Do the Beatles count?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Some would call them rock, but I would say more pomp.
But they start pomp and then they go down a
long and winding road.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
If you will, I guess throw the Beatles in there.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Britney Spears fits perfectly on there, and then the final
mount rushboo. I'm gonna ask you for you go to
a lot of concerts. Mac, Yeah, your the four best
concerts you've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
That's a great question. Jay Z Timberlake at Fenway in
twenty thirteen or fourteen. That's when they did the twenty
twenty experience. It was incredible. Noah Cohn Live of Fenway
Park last year, twenty twenty four. I guess live would
be a concert. I don't have to name the title
of the album that's from there. It gets muddy. I've

(57:58):
been to a million Dave Matthews concerts. Throw that on
there for name. Name your favorite Dave if you have one.
Olivia Rodrigo is pretty good and Chapel Roane opened for her.
That might be up there. That might be up there.
I'll put Rodrigo on there.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Mac almost died there and if I did, you'd have
to post this.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Where can the people find us?

Speaker 2 (58:20):
You can find us on x and on Instagram at
macin Gooo podcast that's Mac Shift seven Goo that includes Facebook,
sticker tuning, Castbuckspreak or Google Play, I Hi Radio Radio.
We are on Spotify. More importantly, we're on Apple Podcasts.
Get on their rate review, subscribe five stars. If you
do that one of these days, maybe again we will

(58:40):
get beginning there.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I no, no, we have to figure this out.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Yeah. Maybe we'll be reprinting Mac and Goo t shirts
from the folks over at Watertown Sports where Watertown Sportswear
is on thirty four Mod Auburn Street in Watertown. Watertownsportswear
dot com experts screen printing and embroidery.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Teapublic dot Com. Oh, I forgot to mention this during
the news dump slip my mind because I was so
into that fucking Catfish documentary. But Tim Robinson he got
some stills of his new show coming out.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah, so uh, in the next week or two, Goo
and I will have a little bit of what you've
been watching a couple of notes here. Peacemaker season two
has been pretty darn good. Really enjoying it. The new
HBO show that Dork talked about this week, Task, its
first episode just came out. It's got potential. It's gonna
be like a you know, crime thriller type of show.

(59:30):
Mark Ruffalo is always great. The paper came out on Peacock,
the legacy sequel to the Office, and you know what,
it's okay, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
There is a character on the many episodes interview six. Okay,
so you're there's one. Actually there's one and a half
characters on the show. Because one character talks with this
other character a lot that are so unrealistic. There's enough
at stake with out having them on the show that
you can still have high jinks, you can still have fun,

(01:00:05):
and you can cut the episodes from twenty four to
twenty eight minutes down to twenty two minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
It is. We discussed it briefly. It's having the same
issue that season one of Parks and rec had, where
it doesn't know which characters to lead off of, and
it's giving you too much of one or two characters.
But in particular, the lady character as Merelda with the
Italian as Morelda is my least favorite worst characters in

(01:00:32):
television history.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
You already have the British guy there being a cheeky asshole.
He would have been good enough. The as Morelda character
is taking you out of the show entirely, and I
understand the people's biggest criticism with the original Office is
that Michael Scott was too unrealistic, and I don't agree
at all. I think it was the perfect encapsulation of
someone like that. The British guy in this show is

(01:00:57):
in that realm.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
The gray hair fella does something. It might be an
episode seven or eight where he says that he replies
to all mass emails, great idea, this really works, And
I'm like, that is hilarious because there are people that
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I'm telling you that one character, you remove her, you
might have something there. I don't know if it's gonna
get renewed or anything, but the show is watchable outside
of that one character. And then also, Goo, I don't
know if I texted you this or not, but I
received a few texts and I watch it. There's a
new show on Netflix called Love con Revenge. Have you
heard of this? Oh? I heard there's a fellow. This

(01:01:34):
is a fellow. We went to high school. We heard
who was on the show my sister. Yes, yes, he
graduated two years behind us. He was kind of a
piece of shit then, but he was sixteen, So what
are you gonna do? I haven't seen this kid since
he was sixteen. He is featured at the beginning of
episode two into episode three on this show, and he
is a real bad guy. He's a bad person.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
I'm going to watch this tonight. Yeah, it's sister told
me about yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
It's like, you're like, Wow, he's a fucking actual piece
of shit. So if you watch Love con Revenge, I
won't name the name, but if you watch it about
twenty minutes into episode two, his thing starts and ends
about twenty minutes into episode three, and if you watch it,
you'll know who we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Okay, sounds good to me. So that'll do it for
this week on Mac and Goo. Check us out at
the top of next week for a news dump Tuesdays
or Goosdays. I Abuse Kangaroos, Damn Burton.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Please flip the cassette over to side b to continue
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