May 30, 2025 • 47 mins
We discuss the latest Disney live action remake - 'Lilo & Stitch'
How does it compare to the original? Where does it rank against the other remakes? Are we dumb?
Staring - Maia Kealoha as Lilo, Sydney Agudong as Nani & Chris Sanders as Stitch - A lonely Hawaiian girl befriends a runaway alien, helping to mend her fragmented family.
Also - Mac's talks soap.
Join the conversation on social media - @MACandGUpodcast
How does it compare to the original? Where does it rank against the other remakes? Are we dumb?
Staring - Maia Kealoha as Lilo, Sydney Agudong as Nani & Chris Sanders as Stitch - A lonely Hawaiian girl befriends a runaway alien, helping to mend her fragmented family.
Also - Mac's talks soap.
Join the conversation on social media - @MACandGUpodcast
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What a time to be alive. It was announced yesterday.
This is Friday, the end of May. Summer is right
around the corner, or maybe we're in summer. It depends
on how you look at life. But Sydney Sweeney is
selling five thousand bars of soap that contained drops of
her own bath water in collaboration with Doctor Squatch with
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the Buxom Young Lad saying, fans always joke about wanting
my bathwater. I was like, this is such a cool
way to give them what they want.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Wow, there's really just nothing better than when someone gets
it right. Sydney Sweeney gets it. She understands her fans.
This is tongue in cheek, but it's also like, this
is a big kinky Sydney. This is exactly what we
wanted out of you and you gave it to us.
So now, like, what's next on list that we want
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from Sydney switey? Are we gonna get that as well?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well? Someone made a joke on X where they had
a photoshop of Sharman being like, we have an idea.
She went on to say, My hope is that it
just gets guys to think about taking care of themselves
and cleaning themselves with some healthy products. Yeah, they'll be
cleaning one area, thinking about tongue in cheek.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Why does this bar soak have hot grooves? She has
a point. There's a lot of gross dudes out there.
You live with a female, so you are you're infinitely
more clean than most dudes. I lived with two female
relatives for a very long time, so I think I
(01:48):
have pretty good cleaning lists, pretty good hygiene for a male.
The Mac and Goo program, we're well above the male
standard for hygiene and cleanliness. And I take pride in that.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And I imagine that when you get your order of
one hundred bars of soap, you're gonna be on a
seafood diet. See soap and eat it.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'll tell you the combo of this working so well
with the eating soap scene from Friendship is just like
that was an A plus tweet from me.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I mean, you are gonna put the soap in your
mouth and just say, oh, I've been a bird boy.
I know, my pawn.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm really excited to see what the secondary market is
gonna be for these bars of soap.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I was thinking the exact same thing. If she's only
putting out five thousand bars of these soaps. Also, is
her body? Is her bath water actually gonna be in
these soaps? I'd imagine not, but just a it's good.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It better come with a fucking car. That's like someone
witnessed this, this, this bathwater being ported.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I need to see that little sapling of water falling.
I need I need to know what body part this
fell off of. I don't want it from her hair.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'll take it for everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I don't care where it is. If you just tell
me that it's from somewhere I'm in, I don't, I
don't care. One go three, yeah, chop three, King of
(03:23):
Queen Marl Street Entertainment, I'm go. I'm mad, and we
are the Mac and Goo program. As you can see,
the sunglasses are off and I look okay.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Oh yeah, congratulations, thank you. How's that going for you?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
A little bit of a residual effect right now of
some dry skin scabbage over the eye, but it's not
as bad as it was. And I hate wearing sunglasses
on the pod. I look like a douchebag. And you
can see the ring light in my sunglasses, which is
incredibly annoying. I would like to applaud anyone who sat
through those videos and accepted me for me.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Will your wife kiss you again? Currently?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What year is it?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I just imagine she couldn't look you in your ugly
eye for a week or so. There, so no kissing none.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It wasn't conjunctivitis.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Is Raffi hugging you again?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Raffi told me that it was disgusting.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, folks, yay. We are discussing Leelo and Stitched the
live action remake of the two thousand and two animated
Disney movie, and I would say go and E's opinion
of the original animated movie is that I would say
it's generally underrated, really good Disney movie, maybe not top tier,
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but right below it.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
It came just after my prime Disney watching years, where
as a teenager you're gonna pooh pooh Disney movies and
you're not gonna give them enough credit for what they are.
But then you'll get back to them when you have
kids and you look, that's pretty good. That's a good movie.
I do think it's a little inconsistent, maybe pacing wise,
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because they're trying to wrap things up pretty quickly, but
it's a very good Disney movie, pretty.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Unique compared to the movies that had come out the
ten years before it too, So I like that that
it's a little astray from the typical thing. And also
in general, I don't think either of us wanted or
think that really any of these movies need live action remakes.
But if you're gonna do it, don't do the five
or six definitive like top Tier forty Doggers. Do these
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ones that were a little more underrated, didn't make maybe
as much money as they should have, ones that deserve
a second life. And I think this is a prime candidate.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
For Also, if you're Disney and you watch a movie,
say like Detective Pikachu. You see that and you say,
how do we get a piece of this action? We
have something that looks a lot like a Pikachu. Let's
go ahead and we'll see merch. Wise, like merch, this
movie could have made zero dollars at the box office
and it was still worth it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, And to your point, when we started seeing teasers
for this, I don't know eight much of you Go
a year ago. They just showed Stitch, and Stitch looked
really good. Yeah, which is a selling point in and
of itself.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That Super Bowl ad where Stitch just runs a muck
on the field. You hooked everyone.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Right there, yep. And your four year old son loved it.
This movie loved it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I will say that he was He loved the Stitch
parts and he did enjoy the end, but I could
kind of tell he was losing a little bit of
interest in the first act when they went away from
Stitch to set up the family drama.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I think maybe a six or seven year old might
be more interested in the little kid hijinks part of
it too. But this is what we're talking about. You know,
if your four year old to ten year old loved
this movie, that's what their goal is, and that's what
all of Disney movies should be geared towards the twelve thirteen,
fourteen year olds that they seemingly have gotten into with
a lot of like the Pixar related shit Too Goo.
(07:07):
On opening weekend, Lelo and Stitch made one hundred and
forty six million dollars, which was one million dollars more
than it made and in its entire domestic run in
two thousand and two, So that's a huge plush. It
is up to two hundred and seven million domestic heading
into this weekend. It's second weekend, and four hundred and
twenty million dollars worldwide, and all that off one hundred
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million dollar budget. So this is already making money for it.
Even if you double up that to two hundred or
two fifty, even for marketing, it's already made Buku bucks.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I hate to bring this up so often, and we'll
have to do an update soon. But the fact that
I passed on this, and I could have had this
movie that I knew was gonna be gangbusters in the
movie draft to have seven hot dogs left over, eight
on Ballerina and five on lethal weapon, I should be
thrown off this podcast.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Speaking of that, I haven't had an update in a
couple months. I'll get the movie.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Did Davey take this? You did a fuck you want again?
You sonny shitch?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'm pretty sure I had this. It was me dat
pitch for sure. I'm pretty sure I got it.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's actually funny. In our text, Jamee Davy thinks that
he drafted every movie.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
He's like, oh, did I take this one? Were you there?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
A good? The animated movie ended up making two hundred
and seventy million worldwide, so it made a lot of money.
It's just it's not it's not talked about in the
pantheon it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But once again, even with that box office like that's good.
But it's the Stitch Merch that really pushes what Disney
needs from these movies. Like we talked about a couple
of years ago, uh tmnt Mutant Mayhem only made a
certain amount at the box office, but Turtle Merch made
over a billion, so they said, we'll make a sequel.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And to that point, gou this movie actually has a
sneaky all time great movie poster promoting it. It's all
the Disney characters that came before Stitch in the Renaissance
era looking down at Stitch, like what the fuck is
that sort of thing? Like great marketing.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Too, Yeah, the O two marketing with its trailers too,
where it was Stitch going into other Disney movies and
causing camps. Famously went into a whole New World Aladdin
and picked up Jasmine. Ign asked him about that and
he's like, it was just publicity, guys. Me and Jasmine
didn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No hanky panky there. Yeah, dude, this, like its original counterpart,
is a PG rated movie. This is an action, adventure, comedy, drama, family,
fantasy sub genres. We have alien invasion, buddy comedy, sci fi, epic,
space sci fi. There is a decent amount of sci
fi to this. And you know what, what I think
makes this movie so great and I think kind of
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kicks it up maybe even a daughter or two. The
more you think about it, it does all those things
fairly well. It is funny, it is dramatic, It is
a faily movie. There is fantasy sci fi there. It's
a good adventure, good action. It hits on all of
those quite well.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Can I do actually some sub genres? Sure, Animal, adoption, Okay,
ocean right right, Surf there you go. Now we're talking spaceship.
This is your favorite surf movie since Surf Ninja's.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I was just say, forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's a good one, but I like Surf Ninjas that
as Rob Schneider, who at the time was not a
carrot yet or Stapler.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
This movie is one hundred and eight minutes, which is
actually twenty minutes longer than the original. To be honest
with you, I was a little surprised by that. When
I looked it up. It felt about the same since
I had just watched the original maybe three days before,
four days before. It didn't feel like it was that
much longer.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So yeah, I mean like I was watching the screening
while also watching Lilo and Stitch of my phone at
the same time, and I was trying to deep them
side by side, and out of nowhere, they just split.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Goo. I would like the critics to explain themselves here.
I don't know what the fuck they're on On roddy
T's sixty nine percent from the critics, ninety three percent
from the audience. On the flip side, and oh two
the original animated version eighty six percent from the critics,
seventy eight percent from the audience. I don't know what
happened there on Metacritic of fifty three from the critics
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two seventy four. I don't know what they're missing here, Goo,
And I know they like fucking drawing a line in
the sand against stuff like these Disney lives.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
They also don't want to put Barry Bonds in the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, yes, this is a legit good movie, good family movie.
There's really not many things wrong with this movie other
than it being a remake. But like, if you're gonna
go see that. You already know it's a remake, so
get that out of your fucking brain, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And if you're mad about the changes, I could see
the audience being mad about that. And we'll get into
this in a second. But if you're a critic, it
doesn't really check. I mean, it does make some things.
It makes things more convenient, means it a better story.
It makes it more convenient. No, I think it makes
it a better it makes choices easy.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
No, no, I think it makes it a better family
story and a more relatable story. Speaking of rankly, it
should be rated better than the original.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Credit to my iPhone, it auto corrected what I sent
you yesterday to Obama means family, which I'm not even
sure if it does not to get poly charged.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But you know, there's someone out there this week that
HETEs Obama that was fucking furious that their their iPhone
corrected Ohana to Obama, so that.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
My phone also corrected Lelo to Polo, Polo and Stitch.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
When I got that, I was I first of all,
I went to Poo over Polo, and then I was like, oh,
it's clearly Leo.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
There is chickens in the movie.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
There are chickens. Correct, Look at all these chickens goo.
This movie is written by Chris ka kakan Nia Kilani
Bright Mike van and it is of course based on
the script from the original movie by Chris Sanders and
Dean Deblas. You would know Chris Cacannio Kalani Bright as
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an additional crew member on Mowana.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's how I would know him. That's how I know him.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
You wouldn't know Mike Van Wess from anything. So this
is a real nice kickstarter for those two. Clearly, when
Disney does this, they're trying to prop up like up
and coming sort of filmmakers producers that I actually think
they like to prop people up. So credit to them
for putting people, giving people that platform.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You can ship in one hand and wish in the other.
It's the same.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
We wouldn't know Mike Van Ways from anything, but we
might know him well in a couple of years ago,
because what he's working on is two untitled horror movies,
the untitled Leprechaun project and then the untitled Wizard of
Oz horror project. So that must be coming up on
It's what is that called IP?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's IP is.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Up yeah, whatever, whatever, public public domain because apparently he's
working on that, and again based on the two script
by Chris Sanders and Dean Dubla. They also co directed
that career.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Sanders, that's the voice of Leroy from Leroy and Stitch.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
That's also the voice of Stitch from Stitch.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Oh my goodness, how did I miss that? How did
I not Stitch to the Maid for VHS or DVD
at the time. I'm sorry, I'm dating myself here, the
fourth film in the Lelan Stitch franchise that went straight
to DVD.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
In which Chris Sander's voice acted everyone and wrote and
directed it. Uh do. That duo has worked together a
ton since teaming up on Mulan and Chris Sanders actually
has a remarkable career outside of his voice acting and
his ten or fifteen years dedicated to me, he also
was a writer on Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The
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Lion King, Mulan, of course, Lelan Stitch, How to Train
Your Dragon, The Cruds, and the Wild Robot from Last Year,
which we he's also getting, oddly enough, a live action
roommake to How to Train Your Dragon, So Big Year
or maybe a Big Punch to the Gut for Chris Sanders.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I just saw on Instagram A real was suggested to
me and it was Pedro Pascal voicing the Fox from
the Wild Robot. It was him and the booth doing
it real, nice effortless work.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I like that you you baval appreciate voice.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I love watching people do voiceover work.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, it is. It is good stuff good. This movie
is directed by Dean Fleischer Camp, who I was aware
of many not maybe not many other people because he
directed the movie Marcel the Shell Shoes On from a
couple of years ago. That is a really nice heartfelt
story that began as a YouTube series from like twenty ten,
which starred at the time his then wife Jenny Slate.
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They are now divorced. But I think Dean Fleischer Camp
has a way of telling nice, heartfelt stories, and I
think this movie confirms that. Synopsis A lonely Hawaiian girl
befriends a runaway alien, helping to mend her fragmented family.
Good enough. This movie stars and we'll get to the
animated counterparts after I run through this year. Gou Maya
(16:11):
Kieloa as Lilo, Sydney Agudong as Nanny, Chris Sanders as Stitch,
which Gou just found out. Zach Galifanakis is Jumba, Billy
Magnuson as Pleakly, Courtney b Vance as Cobra Bubbles, Amy
Hill as Tutu, Tia Carrera as ms Kakoa Kaypo Do Doit?
Dodua as David, and Hannah Wattingham as Grand Councilwoman. Now,
(16:33):
out of all of these, Gou I didn't really have
an issue with any of them, but in comparison to
the originals, I found one or two things that I
didn't particularly care for. So the voice of Lelo the
little girl here, I thought she did a really nice job.
I thought she was very good, and she did a
good job of like being a little brat too, which
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just roll calls for. So I thought it was an
improvement over the animated version.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
First off, I like that they used at least a
couple of the voice actors from either that movie or
the shows or the other movies in live action performances. Here.
Tia Carrera was the original Nanni. They created a role
for her in this movie. She was the public servant
the child's care And I actually like that they split
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the character of Bubbles and that.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah. So the original Lelo Da Vid Davey Chase. She
was good. Don't get me wrong. I just I think
I just preferred the live action version because you get
more out of that performance. As Gou mentioned, Tia Carrera
was the original Nani who She's got a great voice,
so that voice works. I don't know how to compare him.
I really liked this version of Nanni as well. It
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felt a little it felt younger than the version in
the animated version did, and I think that's better for
the story. Chris Sanders, of course, did both versions. My
biggest issue with this version was Zach all Fanacas's jumba.
The original version was David Ogden Steers. He's just it's
odd to me that the animated version was more grounded
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and the live action version was like more cartoonish.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It's also kind of weird how so Zach elifanakus in
this and he also voiced the joker in Lego Batman
and didn't try to change his voice at all.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
And I know he already has a bit of a
zany voice, so I get it to a certain degree.
But it was the first thing that I was distracted
by was his voice in this role.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Also, they added the character of Tutu to uh make
things a little bit easier at the end.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah. So Amy Hill plays the neighbor Tou Tou, who's
borderline elderly woman, who's a neighbor that has sort of
looked over Lelo.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Right, she has looked over Lelo and Nanni. She has
a son, so she is a mother. She when watching Leelo,
lets her have fun, lets her adventure out, but she
still has an eye on her. You can that if
Leelow was in her custody, she would be in good hands.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's for sure. Amy Hill voice a
character named missus Hasagawa and the animated version who was
just like a forgetful old woman that owned a shop
nine He tried to get a job from her. But
a minor role compared to this character. Billy Magdison as
Pleakly I thought was really good, but not on the
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level that Kevin McDonald was as the original Pleakly. And
if you don't know who Kevin McDonald is, google him.
You'll instantly recognize him and you'll hear his voice and
you know he is. Billy Madison does do a good
job here.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, he plays a cartoon character. He's a cartoon.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Courtney b Vance's Cobra Bubbles. The original version, of course,
was ving rams and as much as we love ving Rames,
Courtney b Vance's version brought a little more. He was
still intimidating, a little more normal.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
He was softer, too little softer.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It just fit this version better than ving Ra James's
character did. Of course, we mentioned to your career as
miss Kakoa. She is the like social worker that's introduced
at the beginning of this movie. It doesn't exist in
the animated version. Kaipo du duat du doi. I don't
know how you pronounced that as David sort of one
of the same to me. I didn't really notice too
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much from Jason Scott Lee. I think he nailed the
like awkwardness of that character and like his bashfulness towards Nonnie. Uh.
And then we get Hannah Wattingham as the Grand Councilwoman
versus as Grand counsel Woman. Yeah, which it was actually good.
You couldn't tell, right, Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Well done. Actually, I thought it was just it felt
like a regular, not a regular. I'm not trying to
insult anybody here, but it just felt like a like
a voice actor, like a working voice actor.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, yeah, no, it it was. It was well done
so like I think, and there's a couple of characters
that get deleted in this version from the animated version,
but I would say, like if you're looking plus's minuses pluses,
I would say Amy Hill is too too. Minus Galfanacus's
jumpa and everything else is sort of level, you know,
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so it's all good to me.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I feel that way about so much of this movie
where it's level. They did everything as adequately as they
possibly could. We knew what we were getting, and if
it wasn't for the public discourse and everything that I
am being recommended on Facebook, x and Instagram, I would
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almost forget about this movie. But not in a bad way.
They did their job. They didn't get me mad, but
the discourse about the ending has it has me furious.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I think you're under selling it with those remarks. I
thought this movie was pretty good in a great kids movie.
I think this is a great kids movie.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Okay, I think it's We'll do hot dogs in a second.
Let me get to this first, though. Some other Lelo
and Stitch properties leading up to this, we have the
twenty zero two that was the original animated movie we now.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Just stopped doing.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I'm not allowed to do it on the radio. I
can do it here if I want. I'm in charge here.
Then we have three straight to DVD movies. We have
Stitch the movie that is about bad guys retrieving more experiments.
Stitch is having a tough time fitting in. In twenty
oho five Lelo and Stitch two, Stitch has a glitch.
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This is set between the original film and Statch, and
then in twenty oh six, starring Chris Anderson as both characters.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Chris Sanders, What did I say, Chris Sanderson, mister Anderson,
that's a crossover. We need Stitch in the matrix.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
We have Leroy and Stitch and this is another experiment.
His name is Leroy. Shall we get to TV? Yeah,
let's say the TV Okay TV From O three to six,
we have Leelo and Stitch the series. This was on
ABC Kids and Disney Channel. That was after a little delay.
From nine to fifteen. We have a Japanese anime that
I am now very intrigued by. This was called Stitch.
(23:00):
I'm gonna check that one out. Twenty seventeen we have
Stitch and Ai. This was first in China and then
went to Disney. Now that I that was the original
streaming that Disney had, right.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It must be, it must be.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And then for video games, we have nine of them
across many of platforms, Nintendo, DS, Game Boy, Advance, PS
two and others.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I don't know if I ever played a Leloan Stitch game.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I mean, if it was, I'm picturing remember from like nine,
the Wolverine game for PS three. Yeah, yeah, I'm picturing
Stitch in that role. Yeah, that's not bad, just going
out in mauling people.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
First things first, Number one with the Bullet Hawaiian roller
Coaster is awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I I don't know what the words are, but it's
catchy and I enjoy it. It's funny, too fun to
me as a as a Hawaiian shirt wear, you know,
authentic Hawaiian made Hawaiian shirt here goo. So I'm the
expert on the property. Great song, great two.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's my only note.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, it's get through the gauntlet.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
All right, the gauntlet a fun factor. Stitch is fun.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Stitch is very fun. Stitch is really fun. And I
also think other kids like watching Braddy Kids and Leelo's
kind of a brat, right, so that's fun too.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I'm also able to use the the Stitch bad meter
with my son. I'm like, hey, you're bad up to here,
Let's bring it down to here, satisfactor. And I'm a
little mike riled up just and it's not because of
the movie. It's because of goddamn social media. And I'm
not even sure if these people are real.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
So did you just make a Sarage reference? There is that?
What's happening right now? Uh huh. I would say that
the climax of this movie is not as satisfying as
the animated version. However, the consequences and where characters end
up in this movie I thought was a little more
satisfying than the animated version.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Borometer. I was getting a little bored as they were
setting up the family drama and there was no stitch
for what twenty minutes? Twenty five minutes?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, maybe that long, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
It felt like hours.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I didn't have that that didn't exist for me, and
that I even knew that going in. You had said
that to me, you'd seen it before I had, and
uh no, I didn't. I liked I enjoyed the characters.
I liked. I liked the high drinks there amongst the
Big Sister, Little Sister.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Dynamic Halloween will this wane over time, and I feel
like outside of the conversation of best Disney live action movies,
I'm not gonna remember this a ton I'll bring it
up in that conversation. It's probably my number two, but
I'm not gonna say forgettable. That's that's too much. But
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it's satisfactory. It did what it was supposed to do,
but it's it's not the best.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean, the issue really here is and this is
a bit like with the Sonic movies. I think this
sort of falls in to a similar area as them.
Those have been getting better, but what they're lacking in
what kids love, especially younger kids, is the music, right,
and so this doesn't have the great music and sing
alongs that the best Disney movies have. So as much
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as I love the story here and his heartfelt as
the story is, that makes it like a really good
kid in family movie, it just doesn't have that musical
dynamic that a lot of those all time greats do have.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I agree they should have played Hawaiian roller Coaster seven times.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Or they should have had like I don't know, they
should have had like when when You're when you got
free rein you know, we're actually a movie. You know.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
They didn't play a lot of Elvis in this. I
feel like they played more Elvis in the animated one, right.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I think so?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, because Elvis it's a big deal in Hawaii. Correct, Yeah,
he didn't. Is that Bruno Mars started? Uh? Wasn't he
in Hawaii? He was an Elvis Hawaiian?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I mean he was an Elvis impersonator.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But was it in Hawaii?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I don't know if he's from Hawaiian. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Bring up the next one. I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
A quarter world. Is this better or worse than twenty
seventeen's Aquaman or in nineteen ninety four's water World? What
you'ar did Aquaman come out? What year did the water
World come out?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah? So he was age four, live in Hawaii, Elvis Medley,
little Bruno Mars.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Where is he from? I feel like everyone claims him.
It's like the Chappelle show Racial Draft.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, all races are claiming Bruno and he can sort
of he can kind of code change, like that he
can be whatever he needs to be.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
This is better than Aqua Worlds. That's not what it's
called water World, but i'd probably water World. I like,
I'm really warming up to water World. We might have
to change this soon.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Uh. This movie's better than both of those movies, Aquaman
and water World.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Plemonade. For those of you who don't know, Jesse Plemons
is the man, and when he pops up in something,
we say, holy shit, that is great cow. Who is
that guy? Oh, we know who that is. It's Jesse
Plemons and he makes things better. Who did that in
this movie? Is Bubbles in? Not enough of this movie
to count him?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I tell you, yeah, you could count him. I'll give
you that. I really liked Amy Hills, like motherly feeling
in inspiration in this movie, which you just simply don't
have in the animated version. So I'll give it to Amy.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Hill Pants, tent City, Excite, bike Mania. What got you
going in this movie? I'm not sure if anything did.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well speak for yourself. I thought Nannie was pretty attractive.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Should I ask if you would purchase Bathwater?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Listen?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Are we gonna add that to the guard If we're making.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
A list of bars of soap I would purchase to
feature of women's bathwater in it. I don't know what
the number is.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I would like one day for the shelves behind you
to just be covered in celebrity bathwater soap, and what
a collection it would be. Max Credit Union.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I think I gotta give it to Maya ki Lowa
as Lelo. We talk about how all the time children
actors ruined shit. Well, this movie is predominantly dominated by
a child actor. I don't know how old she is
in real life, maybe eight years old. She's playing like
six in this. I thought she was really fucking good,
conveyed the emotional moments well, was funny when she needed
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to be. I thought she was really good, really really good.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Hot Dog roller coaster ride.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Fucking nailed it absolutely.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I had to think about it for like thirty seconds
and how to start it, how to finish it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
On a hot uh coaster ride.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Okay, let's get to this here, Mac, I'll go first.
The movie is solid enough. I think it's one of
the better Disney live action movies, but that it's not
saying much because that's what all of the headlines are saying,
Like it's the best, Yeah, but people don't like those.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I think we agree. Number one is a lad.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I like Aladdin more than most. I think Aladdin is fun,
and I think and like the CGI isn't the best,
but I like Will Smith's Genie well.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It also turned Jasmine from a damsel in distress to
a badass in Naomi Scott's moment in that movie where
she like has that emotional outburst with the song's fucking
amazing and actually was maybe the best part of that
movie and makes you wish that the animated movie had that,
And I would say this has some elements of making
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you wish the animated movie had something. All the other
live action remakes have not felt like they needed to
add something to the original version that those two versions have,
so I would say this is probably number two live
action Disney remake based on that. However, I love The
Lion King so much, but that I also still loved
that live action remake.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And Ja'afar is hot. Stitch looks great in this, and
there's enough high jinks to keep the kids entertained. The
first act is kind of boring for me, setting up
the family drama, but you do need that for the end.
You need that for the big, big gut punch at
the end. I really like the two main actors. I
would have preferred keeping the character of gun tow in there,
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but whatever, you know, the movie's passed. I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna pick it outside Justice for.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The guys, the big bad ye alien guy.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, it's whatever. At the beginning, I was more indifferent
slash slightly down on the ending of the movie because
I feel like they split the baby with the bathwater.
I didn't think they really made a choice, like they
made you go one side or the other. It was
super convenient because of another thing that was added to
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this movie that's not really in the original. It's a
portal gun if you don't know. But I guess, like
thirty one hot dogs, I think it's good.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
All right, Yeah, I mean I'm not far off from you.
I really liked, again the addition of the character of Tutu.
That just made this feel a little more heartfell, little
more homely, and also just outright makes sense in a
situation like this, in a village like that. I feel
like that's more accurate than what the animated version provided us.
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I also feel like at the end of this movie,
there's a decision made that benefits all of the characters,
whereas in the animated version you don't quite get that either. Yes,
it does fall short in a couple of the fantastic
movements that the animated version has. That's always gonna happen
when you're talking animated verse live action, and I agree
that the climax of this movie towards the end probably
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falls a little short to what the rest of the
movie was gliding towards. Because I felt like this movie
was really, really good. I think it's a great kids movie.
It's not a movie I'm like desperate to rewatch, but
I could see a child really loving this movie and
wanting to rewatch. It's just a really good family story
tugs on the heartstrings a little bit. I have it
(32:53):
at thirty three Hot Talks. I think it's a great
kids movie and good for all ages in general, but
it does lack that rewatchability. It doesn't have that musical aspect.
But Stitch is fun. Kids are gonna love that. I
think a lot of families are gonna love the family
dynamic in this.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Shall we get the spoilers, let's do it? Spoiler spoilers,
el Hannah means given your child to the state. Mac
So the end of.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
This movie, after you know, everyone gets saved, YadA YadA,
uh Amy hills Tou tou, which is in addition to
this movie, as we've already said three or four times,
she takes on Lelo, takes custody of Lelo, they live
uphill from Nanni and Lelo, and Nanni is still able
to go and pursue her passions as well. So in
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this version of the story, Lelo probably receives a better
upbringing than what she did in the animated and Nanni
also has a better life than what she did in
the animated And it just makes so much sense to me,
and it like it just adds a nice touch to
this movie that the animated version doesn't have. And it
also hammers home that point right that the whole point
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of Stitch in Lelo's relationship Ohanna doesn't need to be blood,
and so adding that aspect really sells that even more.
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I loved her addition to this movie also by adding
her and then you add the convenience of a of
a of a portal gun it then yes, Nanni goes
off to college at the end, but distance doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, that's true. That's a good point too. And I
was thinking about it during the movie too. I was like, oh,
you know what, the portal gun is a nice I
almost wanted a couple more gizmos and gadgets from space
that that would work.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
It was just the one over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, it's just the dark gun in that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Nanni is eighteen nineteen years old. She has no job,
They now have no house, she has no health insurance.
I'm not saying like they should have taken the girl
away from her. I mean maybe, but I don't think
she was ready to raise lelo to. I think of
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my brother at the age of eighteen nineteen years old.
I would probably not be here today if he was
raising me at that age. I think of myself at
that age trying to raise I'm thirty six. I can
barely do it. I have a child. Raising children is
extremely difficult, especially when it is thrust upon you after
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a family tragedy. Ohana is it's not just those two.
They have a family friend that they have been with forever.
They added that character on purpose to then make it
easier at the end. Once again, it does make it
a little bit easier at the end to then say
it's more responsible, because first off, Tutu can actually take
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care of lie Low, and she's not this like old staunch,
like like she's a no fun person. She has fun
throughout the entire movie. And she's also already raised a child,
and this is only a placeholder for like five years maybe,
And once again, the distance does not matter. The distance
no longer matters.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well, I also think right not that the animation animated
version advocates or inspires people to have kids at nineteen
years old. I think it's just a better message to
show you and display the kids that like this is
out there, you know. And yes, there have been hundreds
of thousands, if not millions, of people that have been
(36:25):
in a situation like Nanni, that have taken on a lilo,
and it is nice to have someone that would make
that sacrifice for their younger sibling or a younger cousin.
But it is a sacrifice, and so I like that
this movie shows you that that doesn't necessarily need to
be done, you know what I mean, Like, people are
still gonna be okay if you don't make that sacrifice.
(36:47):
And I just preferred this version of the story that
with the consequences than the animated.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
And it also with the no one gets left behind
with Ohanna. If she stayed there to take care of
her sister, obviously things could have went well for them,
but she also could have been left behind.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, right, yeah, I just I just think it's a
better think.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Of the movie That's My Boy, think of Donnie Berg
trying to raise his young Andy Samberg child and Andy
Samberg getting new kids on the block, tattoos on his back.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I just like the idea that you know, Nanny's still
allowed to pursue her passions and have her life as well,
which you just don't have in the animated version, I think.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And they made a deal. She's not being taken to
a whole new a whole new family, a new city,
a new towns, a state village. She's moving next door
and they build the house and they'd make a nice
family with all of them.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
All right. Couple other changes here, Number one Jumba, and
this is the one that bothered me most. This is
the character voice by Galfanakas in the animated version. By
the end of the movie, Jumba sort of is like
more of an anti hero than a villain. He's out
for selfish reasons, but also has like an appreciation for Stitch.
(38:08):
In this he's more of an outright villain. He doesn't
have an appreciation at all for Stitch, and that's because
they get rid of Goon to the big bad alien guy,
which by the way, was voiced by what's his name,
Kevin Michael Richardson in the original, the guy that voices Elmo,
And they put all those characters.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Into huh, Kevin clashes Almo.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Sure, they put these two characters mismatched together and Jumpa
takes on both things. I didn't care for that necessarily,
and I also didn't care for Calvinox's voice work. So
I do think that's the weakest part of this movie
the story. And then we get to Bubbles as well,
which she talked about briefly at the top. So in
the animated version, Bubbles is the social worker from the
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outset from the beginning of the movie, and by the
end it's implied that he inserts himself into the situation
because the extraterrestrial stuff he taught he brings up. Roswell
in that version, which doesn't get brought up here, and
this version he inserts himself into the situation a little
bit into the movie once he realizes there's something, you know,
(39:11):
maybe extra tresto of something weird going on. And I
think it just makes more sense from a storytelling standpoint
in a kid's movie to do it this way. I
don't mind that in the original version you find out
at the end it's like, ah, that's kind of cool,
YadA YadA. I think just from a storing Telly standpoint
for children, this works better. And I also like that
Miss Kakoa is like that really heartfelt friendly person trying
(39:36):
to help Nanny at the beginning, whereas in the animated version,
Bubbles is just a dickhead from the jump not trying
to help Nanny, and Miss Kakoa really gives you what
a real social worker would be like. And so I
preferred this split to Cocoa and Bubbles over strictly Bubbles
in the animated.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Just as soon as Tutu popped up, I was like,
just just give it Leelo to her, like it's it's.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Around on ATV too. It's fucking great.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, And once again it's a placeholder Nanni will be back,
and Nanny this is a free education, so we're not
looking at student loans. And then when she gets back,
she's gonna have a whole new job where she can
actually make money. She's not gonna be, you know, working
a job just to make enough to then cover things.
And like, I don't want to get into this, but
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health insurance is something that I stumble over constantly. Sure,
I get that a nineteen year old might slip their brain.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, Jeff Piel, Jeff Peel, we also should have provided
this when we're giving dog scores goop for some context. Yeah,
what would you give the animated version of this story?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Thirty four thirty five thirty four? I'll say thirty four.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
I was thinking thirty five thirty six. OK, So I'm
a little bit higher on the animated, a little bit
higher here. And so as much as we like some
of the changes in this movie, admittedly it's still it's
still at a live action remake that we don't necessarily crave.
So that's that's why there's a little bit of a difference.
But I would say two or three dogs less for
this version than the original, And you're saying probably three
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or four less than the original.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Mac heard my score and said, stitch, please, I've got
ninety nine problems and a stitch ain't one. Do you
have any more?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
No, that's it, that's all you got.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Let's get into.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Macsack, move Stitch, get out the way, Mac.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Sac could be anything. It could be a boat, Mac.
You have two pieces here too. Topics real quick.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, So I don't know if I'm gonna do last
of Us episode with anyone.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I think you should good.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Dogged me and I don't feel like talking to anyone.
But just a quick synopsis of season two. First two episodes,
last two episodes amazing, great, The middle three presented a
little bit of a lull, but clearly necessary to tell
the story that they're gonna tell. Over are confirmed. Now
four seasons. We're left off with a cliffhanger at the
(42:09):
end of season two. Here only seven episodes, so that's
a little bothersome. So I think clearly season one better
there is in season two. But like, how many times
in a four or five season show are we saying, like, ah,
season two is the best season? Like it never is?
So with context, I think that's totally fine. And as
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long as they nail. The next couple of seasons will
be good, but more so, what I want to talk about,
GOO is the rehearsal another HBO show that just ended
this week. This is the Nathan Fielders show we remember
from a couple of years ago, how Zany it Got?
And Nathan Fielder of course Nathan for You, which is
I think is an all time great comedic show. Goo.
(42:51):
I'm legit having trouble finding words to describe what this
season of the show, what this season of televisian, Season
two of the rehearsal did. What Nathan Fielder was able
to pull off, It's legitimately insane and fucking amazing at
the same time. I just need people to watch it
all six to see what it culminates in. It's legit insane, crazy,
(43:16):
and I was in awe watching the final thirty or
forty minutes of the finale and it might actually lead
to change in real life. What he's done. Nathan Fielder
has got to be the most motivated and created person
on the planet, and I think he's actually capable of
doing anything he sets his mind to. And I'm just
I'm so impressed. I'm not saying it's like the greatest
(43:38):
season of television ever. But it is legitimately it's one
of the most insane seasons of television forever. That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
All Right, Mac, where can the folks find us?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
You can find us on x and on Instagram, at
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Speaker 1 (44:00):
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Speaker 1 (44:18):
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Mac will talk about the last of us who knows.
And we also, oh, we didn't see Karate Kid this weekend,
so we're not going to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
And I will not be seeing that.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I'm still I'm fucking confused because I thought the Jackie
Chan one was a reboot slash remake, but apparently it's
been folded into the regular continuity.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Apparently they got a fucking MCU situation here.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I don't know what's happening. Yeah, I don't know what's happening.
I I was, I was doing a little bit of
research yesterday because I saw that it was a sequel
to both nineteen eighty four The Karate Kid and twenty
Ten's The Karate Kid.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
And when Jackie Chan talks about the twenty ten version
and how he was roped into playing that character, they're like, oh,
you're playing Miyagi. So I like how it's he's mister
Han though, yes, I know, but they're sold to him
as it was mister Miyagi. So I don't know how.
I just don't get it. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
At least Jackie Chan is getting nice little payday right now. Yeah,
he has a lot of money, by the way, that's
what he does.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Have a lot of cake.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Rush Hours one and two fantastic.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Oh did you see. Also they're talking about doing a
Rush Hour.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Four that's been in the news for a while, and
he's saying, please hurry up, he's gonna die. Well no,
so he said that he wants the movie to be
made with less money and less time. Okay, less money,
less time, Rush it through, Rush hour it through. You're
gonna get a better result rush Hour three. They took
too much time on it, spent too much money on it.
Not that good.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I would like another Shanghai Night. That's him and Owen Wilson.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, Shanghai nun was I believe it was the first one.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Okay, so, uh, Shanghai Morning would be the next one.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Evenings, Well, no.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
We've already done night, Shanghai Naps. No, think of some
more day parts. It's all I go. We're new to life,
so we don't know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I'm cool with naps. Naps. He's a little older, old guys.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Two old guys taking naps in the West. Once upon
a time in the West took a nap. About damn
time in the West took another nap.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Well, I guess they probably didn't work harder, so there
were sless snaps, or they didn't work at all, and
they only know.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh my god, that's the crossover we need. We need
Shanghai Nights and Wild Wild West jam those some bitches
to either full of those continuities together.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
If we can do if we can do twenty one
Jump Street and Men in Black, we can do Wild
West in Shanghai Knights.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I would love to see elderly Jackie Chan fighting a
robotic spider and scene. Tuesdays are Guesdays. I use kangaroos,
Tam Burton Bye. Please flip the cassette over to side
(47:24):
B to continue the adventure. Now it's time for girls
jumping on trambopa leins
What a time to be alive. It was announced yesterday.
This is Friday, the end of May. Summer is right
around the corner, or maybe we're in summer. It depends
on how you look at life. But Sydney Sweeney is
selling five thousand bars of soap that contained drops of
her own bath water in collaboration with Doctor Squatch with
(00:24):
the Buxom Young Lad saying, fans always joke about wanting
my bathwater. I was like, this is such a cool
way to give them what they want.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Wow, there's really just nothing better than when someone gets
it right. Sydney Sweeney gets it. She understands her fans.
This is tongue in cheek, but it's also like, this
is a big kinky Sydney. This is exactly what we
wanted out of you and you gave it to us.
So now, like, what's next on list that we want
(01:00):
from Sydney switey? Are we gonna get that as well?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well? Someone made a joke on X where they had
a photoshop of Sharman being like, we have an idea.
She went on to say, My hope is that it
just gets guys to think about taking care of themselves
and cleaning themselves with some healthy products. Yeah, they'll be
cleaning one area, thinking about tongue in cheek.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Why does this bar soak have hot grooves? She has
a point. There's a lot of gross dudes out there.
You live with a female, so you are you're infinitely
more clean than most dudes. I lived with two female
relatives for a very long time, so I think I
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have pretty good cleaning lists, pretty good hygiene for a male.
The Mac and Goo program, we're well above the male
standard for hygiene and cleanliness. And I take pride in that.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And I imagine that when you get your order of
one hundred bars of soap, you're gonna be on a
seafood diet. See soap and eat it.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'll tell you the combo of this working so well
with the eating soap scene from Friendship is just like
that was an A plus tweet from me.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I mean, you are gonna put the soap in your
mouth and just say, oh, I've been a bird boy.
I know, my pawn.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm really excited to see what the secondary market is
gonna be for these bars of soap.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I was thinking the exact same thing. If she's only
putting out five thousand bars of these soaps. Also, is
her body? Is her bath water actually gonna be in
these soaps? I'd imagine not, but just a it's good.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It better come with a fucking car. That's like someone
witnessed this, this, this bathwater being ported.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I need to see that little sapling of water falling.
I need I need to know what body part this
fell off of. I don't want it from her hair.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'll take it for everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I don't care where it is. If you just tell
me that it's from somewhere I'm in, I don't, I
don't care. One go three, yeah, chop three, King of
(03:23):
Queen Marl Street Entertainment, I'm go. I'm mad, and we
are the Mac and Goo program. As you can see,
the sunglasses are off and I look okay.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Oh yeah, congratulations, thank you. How's that going for you?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
A little bit of a residual effect right now of
some dry skin scabbage over the eye, but it's not
as bad as it was. And I hate wearing sunglasses
on the pod. I look like a douchebag. And you
can see the ring light in my sunglasses, which is
incredibly annoying. I would like to applaud anyone who sat
through those videos and accepted me for me.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Will your wife kiss you again? Currently?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What year is it?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I just imagine she couldn't look you in your ugly
eye for a week or so. There, so no kissing none.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It wasn't conjunctivitis.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Is Raffi hugging you again?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Raffi told me that it was disgusting.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, folks, yay. We are discussing Leelo and Stitched the
live action remake of the two thousand and two animated
Disney movie, and I would say go and E's opinion
of the original animated movie is that I would say
it's generally underrated, really good Disney movie, maybe not top tier,
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but right below it.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
It came just after my prime Disney watching years, where
as a teenager you're gonna pooh pooh Disney movies and
you're not gonna give them enough credit for what they are.
But then you'll get back to them when you have
kids and you look, that's pretty good. That's a good movie.
I do think it's a little inconsistent, maybe pacing wise,
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because they're trying to wrap things up pretty quickly, but
it's a very good Disney movie, pretty.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Unique compared to the movies that had come out the
ten years before it too, So I like that that
it's a little astray from the typical thing. And also
in general, I don't think either of us wanted or
think that really any of these movies need live action remakes.
But if you're gonna do it, don't do the five
or six definitive like top Tier forty Doggers. Do these
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ones that were a little more underrated, didn't make maybe
as much money as they should have, ones that deserve
a second life. And I think this is a prime candidate.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
For Also, if you're Disney and you watch a movie,
say like Detective Pikachu. You see that and you say,
how do we get a piece of this action? We
have something that looks a lot like a Pikachu. Let's
go ahead and we'll see merch. Wise, like merch, this
movie could have made zero dollars at the box office
and it was still worth it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, And to your point, when we started seeing teasers
for this, I don't know eight much of you Go
a year ago. They just showed Stitch, and Stitch looked
really good. Yeah, which is a selling point in and
of itself.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That Super Bowl ad where Stitch just runs a muck
on the field. You hooked everyone.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Right there, yep. And your four year old son loved it.
This movie loved it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I will say that he was He loved the Stitch
parts and he did enjoy the end, but I could
kind of tell he was losing a little bit of
interest in the first act when they went away from
Stitch to set up the family drama.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I think maybe a six or seven year old might
be more interested in the little kid hijinks part of
it too. But this is what we're talking about. You know,
if your four year old to ten year old loved
this movie, that's what their goal is, and that's what
all of Disney movies should be geared towards the twelve thirteen,
fourteen year olds that they seemingly have gotten into with
a lot of like the Pixar related shit Too Goo.
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On opening weekend, Lelo and Stitch made one hundred and
forty six million dollars, which was one million dollars more
than it made and in its entire domestic run in
two thousand and two, So that's a huge plush. It
is up to two hundred and seven million domestic heading
into this weekend. It's second weekend, and four hundred and
twenty million dollars worldwide, and all that off one hundred
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million dollar budget. So this is already making money for it.
Even if you double up that to two hundred or
two fifty, even for marketing, it's already made Buku bucks.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I hate to bring this up so often, and we'll
have to do an update soon. But the fact that
I passed on this, and I could have had this
movie that I knew was gonna be gangbusters in the
movie draft to have seven hot dogs left over, eight
on Ballerina and five on lethal weapon, I should be
thrown off this podcast.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Speaking of that, I haven't had an update in a
couple months. I'll get the movie.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Did Davey take this? You did a fuck you want again?
You sonny shitch?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'm pretty sure I had this. It was me dat
pitch for sure. I'm pretty sure I got it.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's actually funny. In our text, Jamee Davy thinks that
he drafted every movie.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
He's like, oh, did I take this one? Were you there?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
A good? The animated movie ended up making two hundred
and seventy million worldwide, so it made a lot of money.
It's just it's not it's not talked about in the
pantheon it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But once again, even with that box office like that's good.
But it's the Stitch Merch that really pushes what Disney
needs from these movies. Like we talked about a couple
of years ago, uh tmnt Mutant Mayhem only made a
certain amount at the box office, but Turtle Merch made
over a billion, so they said, we'll make a sequel.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And to that point, gou this movie actually has a
sneaky all time great movie poster promoting it. It's all
the Disney characters that came before Stitch in the Renaissance
era looking down at Stitch, like what the fuck is
that sort of thing? Like great marketing.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Too, Yeah, the O two marketing with its trailers too,
where it was Stitch going into other Disney movies and
causing camps. Famously went into a whole New World Aladdin
and picked up Jasmine. Ign asked him about that and
he's like, it was just publicity, guys. Me and Jasmine
didn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No hanky panky there. Yeah, dude, this, like its original counterpart,
is a PG rated movie. This is an action, adventure, comedy, drama, family,
fantasy sub genres. We have alien invasion, buddy comedy, sci fi, epic,
space sci fi. There is a decent amount of sci
fi to this. And you know what, what I think
makes this movie so great and I think kind of
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kicks it up maybe even a daughter or two. The
more you think about it, it does all those things
fairly well. It is funny, it is dramatic, It is
a faily movie. There is fantasy sci fi there. It's
a good adventure, good action. It hits on all of
those quite well.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Can I do actually some sub genres? Sure, Animal, adoption, Okay,
ocean right right, Surf there you go. Now we're talking spaceship.
This is your favorite surf movie since Surf Ninja's.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I was just say, forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's a good one, but I like Surf Ninjas that
as Rob Schneider, who at the time was not a
carrot yet or Stapler.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
This movie is one hundred and eight minutes, which is
actually twenty minutes longer than the original. To be honest
with you, I was a little surprised by that. When
I looked it up. It felt about the same since
I had just watched the original maybe three days before,
four days before. It didn't feel like it was that
much longer.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So yeah, I mean like I was watching the screening
while also watching Lilo and Stitch of my phone at
the same time, and I was trying to deep them
side by side, and out of nowhere, they just split.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Goo. I would like the critics to explain themselves here.
I don't know what the fuck they're on On roddy
T's sixty nine percent from the critics, ninety three percent
from the audience. On the flip side, and oh two
the original animated version eighty six percent from the critics,
seventy eight percent from the audience. I don't know what
happened there on Metacritic of fifty three from the critics
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two seventy four. I don't know what they're missing here, Goo,
And I know they like fucking drawing a line in
the sand against stuff like these Disney lives.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
They also don't want to put Barry Bonds in the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, yes, this is a legit good movie, good family movie.
There's really not many things wrong with this movie other
than it being a remake. But like, if you're gonna
go see that. You already know it's a remake, so
get that out of your fucking brain, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And if you're mad about the changes, I could see
the audience being mad about that. And we'll get into
this in a second. But if you're a critic, it
doesn't really check. I mean, it does make some things.
It makes things more convenient, means it a better story.
It makes it more convenient. No, I think it makes
it a better it makes choices easy.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
No, no, I think it makes it a better family
story and a more relatable story. Speaking of rankly, it
should be rated better than the original.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Credit to my iPhone, it auto corrected what I sent
you yesterday to Obama means family, which I'm not even
sure if it does not to get poly charged.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But you know, there's someone out there this week that
HETEs Obama that was fucking furious that their their iPhone
corrected Ohana to Obama, so that.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
My phone also corrected Lelo to Polo, Polo and Stitch.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
When I got that, I was I first of all,
I went to Poo over Polo, and then I was like, oh,
it's clearly Leo.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
There is chickens in the movie.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
There are chickens. Correct, Look at all these chickens goo.
This movie is written by Chris ka kakan Nia Kilani
Bright Mike van and it is of course based on
the script from the original movie by Chris Sanders and
Dean Deblas. You would know Chris Cacannio Kalani Bright as
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an additional crew member on Mowana.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's how I would know him. That's how I know him.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
You wouldn't know Mike Van Wess from anything. So this
is a real nice kickstarter for those two. Clearly, when
Disney does this, they're trying to prop up like up
and coming sort of filmmakers producers that I actually think
they like to prop people up. So credit to them
for putting people, giving people that platform.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You can ship in one hand and wish in the other.
It's the same.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
We wouldn't know Mike Van Ways from anything, but we
might know him well in a couple of years ago,
because what he's working on is two untitled horror movies,
the untitled Leprechaun project and then the untitled Wizard of
Oz horror project. So that must be coming up on
It's what is that called IP?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's IP is.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Up yeah, whatever, whatever, public public domain because apparently he's
working on that, and again based on the two script
by Chris Sanders and Dean Dubla. They also co directed
that career.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Sanders, that's the voice of Leroy from Leroy and Stitch.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
That's also the voice of Stitch from Stitch.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Oh my goodness, how did I miss that? How did
I not Stitch to the Maid for VHS or DVD
at the time. I'm sorry, I'm dating myself here, the
fourth film in the Lelan Stitch franchise that went straight
to DVD.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
In which Chris Sander's voice acted everyone and wrote and
directed it. Uh do. That duo has worked together a
ton since teaming up on Mulan and Chris Sanders actually
has a remarkable career outside of his voice acting and
his ten or fifteen years dedicated to me, he also
was a writer on Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The
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Lion King, Mulan, of course, Lelan Stitch, How to Train
Your Dragon, The Cruds, and the Wild Robot from Last Year,
which we he's also getting, oddly enough, a live action
roommake to How to Train Your Dragon, So Big Year
or maybe a Big Punch to the Gut for Chris Sanders.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I just saw on Instagram A real was suggested to
me and it was Pedro Pascal voicing the Fox from
the Wild Robot. It was him and the booth doing
it real, nice effortless work.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I like that you you baval appreciate voice.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I love watching people do voiceover work.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, it is. It is good stuff good. This movie
is directed by Dean Fleischer Camp, who I was aware
of many not maybe not many other people because he
directed the movie Marcel the Shell Shoes On from a
couple of years ago. That is a really nice heartfelt
story that began as a YouTube series from like twenty ten,
which starred at the time his then wife Jenny Slate.
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They are now divorced. But I think Dean Fleischer Camp
has a way of telling nice, heartfelt stories, and I
think this movie confirms that. Synopsis A lonely Hawaiian girl
befriends a runaway alien, helping to mend her fragmented family.
Good enough. This movie stars and we'll get to the
animated counterparts after I run through this year. Gou Maya
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Kieloa as Lilo, Sydney Agudong as Nanny, Chris Sanders as Stitch,
which Gou just found out. Zach Galifanakis is Jumba, Billy
Magnuson as Pleakly, Courtney b Vance as Cobra Bubbles, Amy
Hill as Tutu, Tia Carrera as ms Kakoa Kaypo Do Doit?
Dodua as David, and Hannah Wattingham as Grand Councilwoman. Now,
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out of all of these, Gou I didn't really have
an issue with any of them, but in comparison to
the originals, I found one or two things that I
didn't particularly care for. So the voice of Lelo the
little girl here, I thought she did a really nice job.
I thought she was very good, and she did a
good job of like being a little brat too, which
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just roll calls for. So I thought it was an
improvement over the animated version.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
First off, I like that they used at least a
couple of the voice actors from either that movie or
the shows or the other movies in live action performances. Here.
Tia Carrera was the original Nanni. They created a role
for her in this movie. She was the public servant
the child's care And I actually like that they split
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the character of Bubbles and that.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah. So the original Lelo Da Vid Davey Chase. She
was good. Don't get me wrong. I just I think
I just preferred the live action version because you get
more out of that performance. As Gou mentioned, Tia Carrera
was the original Nani who She's got a great voice,
so that voice works. I don't know how to compare him.
I really liked this version of Nanni as well. It
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felt a little it felt younger than the version in
the animated version did, and I think that's better for
the story. Chris Sanders, of course, did both versions. My
biggest issue with this version was Zach all Fanacas's jumba.
The original version was David Ogden Steers. He's just it's
odd to me that the animated version was more grounded
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and the live action version was like more cartoonish.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It's also kind of weird how so Zach elifanakus in
this and he also voiced the joker in Lego Batman
and didn't try to change his voice at all.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
And I know he already has a bit of a
zany voice, so I get it to a certain degree.
But it was the first thing that I was distracted
by was his voice in this role.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Also, they added the character of Tutu to uh make
things a little bit easier at the end.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah. So Amy Hill plays the neighbor Tou Tou, who's
borderline elderly woman, who's a neighbor that has sort of
looked over Lelo.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Right, she has looked over Lelo and Nanni. She has
a son, so she is a mother. She when watching Leelo,
lets her have fun, lets her adventure out, but she
still has an eye on her. You can that if
Leelow was in her custody, she would be in good hands.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's for sure. Amy Hill voice a
character named missus Hasagawa and the animated version who was
just like a forgetful old woman that owned a shop
nine He tried to get a job from her. But
a minor role compared to this character. Billy Magdison as
Pleakly I thought was really good, but not on the
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level that Kevin McDonald was as the original Pleakly. And
if you don't know who Kevin McDonald is, google him.
You'll instantly recognize him and you'll hear his voice and
you know he is. Billy Madison does do a good
job here.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, he plays a cartoon character. He's a cartoon.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Courtney b Vance's Cobra Bubbles. The original version, of course,
was ving rams and as much as we love ving Rames,
Courtney b Vance's version brought a little more. He was
still intimidating, a little more normal.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
He was softer, too little softer.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It just fit this version better than ving Ra James's
character did. Of course, we mentioned to your career as
miss Kakoa. She is the like social worker that's introduced
at the beginning of this movie. It doesn't exist in
the animated version. Kaipo du duat du doi. I don't
know how you pronounced that as David sort of one
of the same to me. I didn't really notice too
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much from Jason Scott Lee. I think he nailed the
like awkwardness of that character and like his bashfulness towards Nonnie. Uh.
And then we get Hannah Wattingham as the Grand Councilwoman
versus as Grand counsel Woman. Yeah, which it was actually good.
You couldn't tell, right, Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Well done. Actually, I thought it was just it felt
like a regular, not a regular. I'm not trying to
insult anybody here, but it just felt like a like
a voice actor, like a working voice actor.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, yeah, no, it it was. It was well done
so like I think, and there's a couple of characters
that get deleted in this version from the animated version,
but I would say, like if you're looking plus's minuses pluses,
I would say Amy Hill is too too. Minus Galfanacus's
jumpa and everything else is sort of level, you know,
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so it's all good to me.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I feel that way about so much of this movie
where it's level. They did everything as adequately as they
possibly could. We knew what we were getting, and if
it wasn't for the public discourse and everything that I
am being recommended on Facebook, x and Instagram, I would
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almost forget about this movie. But not in a bad way.
They did their job. They didn't get me mad, but
the discourse about the ending has it has me furious.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I think you're under selling it with those remarks. I
thought this movie was pretty good in a great kids movie.
I think this is a great kids movie.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Okay, I think it's We'll do hot dogs in a second.
Let me get to this first, though. Some other Lelo
and Stitch properties leading up to this, we have the
twenty zero two that was the original animated movie we now.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Just stopped doing.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I'm not allowed to do it on the radio. I
can do it here if I want. I'm in charge here.
Then we have three straight to DVD movies. We have
Stitch the movie that is about bad guys retrieving more experiments.
Stitch is having a tough time fitting in. In twenty
oho five Lelo and Stitch two, Stitch has a glitch.
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This is set between the original film and Statch, and
then in twenty oh six, starring Chris Anderson as both characters.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Chris Sanders, What did I say, Chris Sanderson, mister Anderson,
that's a crossover. We need Stitch in the matrix.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
We have Leroy and Stitch and this is another experiment.
His name is Leroy. Shall we get to TV? Yeah,
let's say the TV Okay TV From O three to six,
we have Leelo and Stitch the series. This was on
ABC Kids and Disney Channel. That was after a little delay.
From nine to fifteen. We have a Japanese anime that
I am now very intrigued by. This was called Stitch.
(23:00):
I'm gonna check that one out. Twenty seventeen we have
Stitch and Ai. This was first in China and then
went to Disney. Now that I that was the original
streaming that Disney had, right.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It must be, it must be.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And then for video games, we have nine of them
across many of platforms, Nintendo, DS, Game Boy, Advance, PS
two and others.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I don't know if I ever played a Leloan Stitch game.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I mean, if it was, I'm picturing remember from like nine,
the Wolverine game for PS three. Yeah, yeah, I'm picturing
Stitch in that role. Yeah, that's not bad, just going
out in mauling people.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
First things first, Number one with the Bullet Hawaiian roller
Coaster is awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I I don't know what the words are, but it's
catchy and I enjoy it. It's funny, too fun to
me as a as a Hawaiian shirt wear, you know,
authentic Hawaiian made Hawaiian shirt here goo. So I'm the
expert on the property. Great song, great two.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's my only note.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, it's get through the gauntlet.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
All right, the gauntlet a fun factor. Stitch is fun.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Stitch is very fun. Stitch is really fun. And I
also think other kids like watching Braddy Kids and Leelo's
kind of a brat, right, so that's fun too.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I'm also able to use the the Stitch bad meter
with my son. I'm like, hey, you're bad up to here,
Let's bring it down to here, satisfactor. And I'm a
little mike riled up just and it's not because of
the movie. It's because of goddamn social media. And I'm
not even sure if these people are real.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
So did you just make a Sarage reference? There is that?
What's happening right now? Uh huh. I would say that
the climax of this movie is not as satisfying as
the animated version. However, the consequences and where characters end
up in this movie I thought was a little more
satisfying than the animated version.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Borometer. I was getting a little bored as they were
setting up the family drama and there was no stitch
for what twenty minutes? Twenty five minutes?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, maybe that long, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
It felt like hours.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I didn't have that that didn't exist for me, and
that I even knew that going in. You had said
that to me, you'd seen it before I had, and
uh no, I didn't. I liked I enjoyed the characters.
I liked. I liked the high drinks there amongst the
Big Sister, Little Sister.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Dynamic Halloween will this wane over time, and I feel
like outside of the conversation of best Disney live action movies,
I'm not gonna remember this a ton I'll bring it
up in that conversation. It's probably my number two, but
I'm not gonna say forgettable. That's that's too much. But
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it's satisfactory. It did what it was supposed to do,
but it's it's not the best.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean, the issue really here is and this is
a bit like with the Sonic movies. I think this
sort of falls in to a similar area as them.
Those have been getting better, but what they're lacking in
what kids love, especially younger kids, is the music, right,
and so this doesn't have the great music and sing
alongs that the best Disney movies have. So as much
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as I love the story here and his heartfelt as
the story is, that makes it like a really good
kid in family movie, it just doesn't have that musical
dynamic that a lot of those all time greats do have.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I agree they should have played Hawaiian roller Coaster seven times.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Or they should have had like I don't know, they
should have had like when when You're when you got
free rein you know, we're actually a movie. You know.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
They didn't play a lot of Elvis in this. I
feel like they played more Elvis in the animated one, right.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I think so?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, because Elvis it's a big deal in Hawaii. Correct, Yeah,
he didn't. Is that Bruno Mars started? Uh? Wasn't he
in Hawaii? He was an Elvis Hawaiian?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I mean he was an Elvis impersonator.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But was it in Hawaii?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I don't know if he's from Hawaiian. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Bring up the next one. I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
A quarter world. Is this better or worse than twenty
seventeen's Aquaman or in nineteen ninety four's water World? What
you'ar did Aquaman come out? What year did the water
World come out?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah? So he was age four, live in Hawaii, Elvis Medley,
little Bruno Mars.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Where is he from? I feel like everyone claims him.
It's like the Chappelle show Racial Draft.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, all races are claiming Bruno and he can sort
of he can kind of code change, like that he
can be whatever he needs to be.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
This is better than Aqua Worlds. That's not what it's
called water World, but i'd probably water World. I like,
I'm really warming up to water World. We might have
to change this soon.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Uh. This movie's better than both of those movies, Aquaman
and water World.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Plemonade. For those of you who don't know, Jesse Plemons
is the man, and when he pops up in something,
we say, holy shit, that is great cow. Who is
that guy? Oh, we know who that is. It's Jesse
Plemons and he makes things better. Who did that in
this movie? Is Bubbles in? Not enough of this movie
to count him?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I tell you, yeah, you could count him. I'll give
you that. I really liked Amy Hills, like motherly feeling
in inspiration in this movie, which you just simply don't
have in the animated version. So I'll give it to Amy.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Hill Pants, tent City, Excite, bike Mania. What got you
going in this movie? I'm not sure if anything did.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well speak for yourself. I thought Nannie was pretty attractive.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Should I ask if you would purchase Bathwater?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Listen?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Are we gonna add that to the guard If we're making.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
A list of bars of soap I would purchase to
feature of women's bathwater in it. I don't know what
the number is.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I would like one day for the shelves behind you
to just be covered in celebrity bathwater soap, and what
a collection it would be. Max Credit Union.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I think I gotta give it to Maya ki Lowa
as Lelo. We talk about how all the time children
actors ruined shit. Well, this movie is predominantly dominated by
a child actor. I don't know how old she is
in real life, maybe eight years old. She's playing like
six in this. I thought she was really fucking good,
conveyed the emotional moments well, was funny when she needed
(29:25):
to be. I thought she was really good, really really good.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Hot Dog roller coaster ride.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Fucking nailed it absolutely.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I had to think about it for like thirty seconds
and how to start it, how to finish it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
On a hot uh coaster ride.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Okay, let's get to this here, Mac, I'll go first.
The movie is solid enough. I think it's one of
the better Disney live action movies, but that it's not
saying much because that's what all of the headlines are saying,
Like it's the best, Yeah, but people don't like those.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I think we agree. Number one is a lad.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I like Aladdin more than most. I think Aladdin is fun,
and I think and like the CGI isn't the best,
but I like Will Smith's Genie well.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It also turned Jasmine from a damsel in distress to
a badass in Naomi Scott's moment in that movie where
she like has that emotional outburst with the song's fucking
amazing and actually was maybe the best part of that
movie and makes you wish that the animated movie had that,
And I would say this has some elements of making
(30:30):
you wish the animated movie had something. All the other
live action remakes have not felt like they needed to
add something to the original version that those two versions have,
so I would say this is probably number two live
action Disney remake based on that. However, I love The
Lion King so much, but that I also still loved
that live action remake.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And Ja'afar is hot. Stitch looks great in this, and
there's enough high jinks to keep the kids entertained. The
first act is kind of boring for me, setting up
the family drama, but you do need that for the end.
You need that for the big, big gut punch at
the end. I really like the two main actors. I
would have preferred keeping the character of gun tow in there,
(31:11):
but whatever, you know, the movie's passed. I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna pick it outside Justice for.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The guys, the big bad ye alien guy.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, it's whatever. At the beginning, I was more indifferent
slash slightly down on the ending of the movie because
I feel like they split the baby with the bathwater.
I didn't think they really made a choice, like they
made you go one side or the other. It was
super convenient because of another thing that was added to
(31:40):
this movie that's not really in the original. It's a
portal gun if you don't know. But I guess, like
thirty one hot dogs, I think it's good.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
All right, Yeah, I mean I'm not far off from you.
I really liked, again the addition of the character of Tutu.
That just made this feel a little more heartfell, little
more homely, and also just outright makes sense in a
situation like this, in a village like that. I feel
like that's more accurate than what the animated version provided us.
(32:10):
I also feel like at the end of this movie,
there's a decision made that benefits all of the characters,
whereas in the animated version you don't quite get that either. Yes,
it does fall short in a couple of the fantastic
movements that the animated version has. That's always gonna happen
when you're talking animated verse live action, and I agree
that the climax of this movie towards the end probably
(32:32):
falls a little short to what the rest of the
movie was gliding towards. Because I felt like this movie
was really, really good. I think it's a great kids movie.
It's not a movie I'm like desperate to rewatch, but
I could see a child really loving this movie and
wanting to rewatch. It's just a really good family story
tugs on the heartstrings a little bit. I have it
(32:53):
at thirty three Hot Talks. I think it's a great
kids movie and good for all ages in general, but
it does lack that rewatchability. It doesn't have that musical aspect.
But Stitch is fun. Kids are gonna love that. I
think a lot of families are gonna love the family
dynamic in this.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Shall we get the spoilers, let's do it? Spoiler spoilers,
el Hannah means given your child to the state. Mac
So the end of.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
This movie, after you know, everyone gets saved, YadA YadA,
uh Amy hills Tou tou, which is in addition to
this movie, as we've already said three or four times,
she takes on Lelo, takes custody of Lelo, they live
uphill from Nanni and Lelo, and Nanni is still able
to go and pursue her passions as well. So in
(33:41):
this version of the story, Lelo probably receives a better
upbringing than what she did in the animated and Nanni
also has a better life than what she did in
the animated And it just makes so much sense to me,
and it like it just adds a nice touch to
this movie that the animated version doesn't have. And it
also hammers home that point right that the whole point
(34:02):
of Stitch in Lelo's relationship Ohanna doesn't need to be blood,
and so adding that aspect really sells that even more.
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I loved her addition to this movie also by adding
her and then you add the convenience of a of
a of a portal gun it then yes, Nanni goes
off to college at the end, but distance doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, that's true. That's a good point too. And I
was thinking about it during the movie too. I was like, oh,
you know what, the portal gun is a nice I
almost wanted a couple more gizmos and gadgets from space
that that would work.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
It was just the one over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, it's just the dark gun in that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Nanni is eighteen nineteen years old. She has no job,
They now have no house, she has no health insurance.
I'm not saying like they should have taken the girl
away from her. I mean maybe, but I don't think
she was ready to raise lelo to. I think of
(35:01):
my brother at the age of eighteen nineteen years old.
I would probably not be here today if he was
raising me at that age. I think of myself at
that age trying to raise I'm thirty six. I can
barely do it. I have a child. Raising children is
extremely difficult, especially when it is thrust upon you after
(35:23):
a family tragedy. Ohana is it's not just those two.
They have a family friend that they have been with forever.
They added that character on purpose to then make it
easier at the end. Once again, it does make it
a little bit easier at the end to then say
it's more responsible, because first off, Tutu can actually take
(35:43):
care of lie Low, and she's not this like old staunch,
like like she's a no fun person. She has fun
throughout the entire movie. And she's also already raised a child,
and this is only a placeholder for like five years maybe,
And once again, the distance does not matter. The distance
no longer matters.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well, I also think right not that the animation animated
version advocates or inspires people to have kids at nineteen
years old. I think it's just a better message to
show you and display the kids that like this is
out there, you know. And yes, there have been hundreds
of thousands, if not millions, of people that have been
(36:25):
in a situation like Nanni, that have taken on a lilo,
and it is nice to have someone that would make
that sacrifice for their younger sibling or a younger cousin.
But it is a sacrifice, and so I like that
this movie shows you that that doesn't necessarily need to
be done, you know what I mean, Like, people are
still gonna be okay if you don't make that sacrifice.
(36:47):
And I just preferred this version of the story that
with the consequences than the animated.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
And it also with the no one gets left behind
with Ohanna. If she stayed there to take care of
her sister, obviously things could have went well for them,
but she also could have been left behind.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, right, yeah, I just I just think it's a
better think.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Of the movie That's My Boy, think of Donnie Berg
trying to raise his young Andy Samberg child and Andy
Samberg getting new kids on the block, tattoos on his back.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I just like the idea that you know, Nanny's still
allowed to pursue her passions and have her life as well,
which you just don't have in the animated version, I think.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And they made a deal. She's not being taken to
a whole new a whole new family, a new city,
a new towns, a state village. She's moving next door
and they build the house and they'd make a nice
family with all of them.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
All right. Couple other changes here, Number one Jumba, and
this is the one that bothered me most. This is
the character voice by Galfanakas in the animated version. By
the end of the movie, Jumba sort of is like
more of an anti hero than a villain. He's out
for selfish reasons, but also has like an appreciation for Stitch.
(38:08):
In this he's more of an outright villain. He doesn't
have an appreciation at all for Stitch, and that's because
they get rid of Goon to the big bad alien guy,
which by the way, was voiced by what's his name,
Kevin Michael Richardson in the original, the guy that voices Elmo,
And they put all those characters.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Into huh, Kevin clashes Almo.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Sure, they put these two characters mismatched together and Jumpa
takes on both things. I didn't care for that necessarily,
and I also didn't care for Calvinox's voice work. So
I do think that's the weakest part of this movie
the story. And then we get to Bubbles as well,
which she talked about briefly at the top. So in
the animated version, Bubbles is the social worker from the
(38:51):
outset from the beginning of the movie, and by the
end it's implied that he inserts himself into the situation
because the extraterrestrial stuff he taught he brings up. Roswell
in that version, which doesn't get brought up here, and
this version he inserts himself into the situation a little
bit into the movie once he realizes there's something, you know,
(39:11):
maybe extra tresto of something weird going on. And I
think it just makes more sense from a storytelling standpoint
in a kid's movie to do it this way. I
don't mind that in the original version you find out
at the end it's like, ah, that's kind of cool,
YadA YadA. I think just from a storing Telly standpoint
for children, this works better. And I also like that
Miss Kakoa is like that really heartfelt friendly person trying
(39:36):
to help Nanny at the beginning, whereas in the animated version,
Bubbles is just a dickhead from the jump not trying
to help Nanny, and Miss Kakoa really gives you what
a real social worker would be like. And so I
preferred this split to Cocoa and Bubbles over strictly Bubbles
in the animated.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Just as soon as Tutu popped up, I was like,
just just give it Leelo to her, like it's it's.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Around on ATV too. It's fucking great.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, And once again it's a placeholder Nanni will be back,
and Nanny this is a free education, so we're not
looking at student loans. And then when she gets back,
she's gonna have a whole new job where she can
actually make money. She's not gonna be, you know, working
a job just to make enough to then cover things.
And like, I don't want to get into this, but
(40:22):
health insurance is something that I stumble over constantly. Sure,
I get that a nineteen year old might slip their brain.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, Jeff Piel, Jeff Peel, we also should have provided
this when we're giving dog scores goop for some context. Yeah,
what would you give the animated version of this story?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Thirty four thirty five thirty four? I'll say thirty four.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
I was thinking thirty five thirty six. OK, So I'm
a little bit higher on the animated, a little bit
higher here. And so as much as we like some
of the changes in this movie, admittedly it's still it's
still at a live action remake that we don't necessarily crave.
So that's that's why there's a little bit of a difference.
But I would say two or three dogs less for
this version than the original, And you're saying probably three
(41:06):
or four less than the original.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Mac heard my score and said, stitch, please, I've got
ninety nine problems and a stitch ain't one. Do you
have any more?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
No, that's it, that's all you got.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Let's get into.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Macsack, move Stitch, get out the way, Mac.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Sac could be anything. It could be a boat, Mac.
You have two pieces here too. Topics real quick.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, So I don't know if I'm gonna do last
of Us episode with anyone.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I think you should good.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Dogged me and I don't feel like talking to anyone.
But just a quick synopsis of season two. First two episodes,
last two episodes amazing, great, The middle three presented a
little bit of a lull, but clearly necessary to tell
the story that they're gonna tell. Over are confirmed. Now
four seasons. We're left off with a cliffhanger at the
(42:09):
end of season two. Here only seven episodes, so that's
a little bothersome. So I think clearly season one better
there is in season two. But like, how many times
in a four or five season show are we saying, like, ah,
season two is the best season? Like it never is?
So with context, I think that's totally fine. And as
(42:30):
long as they nail. The next couple of seasons will
be good, but more so, what I want to talk about,
GOO is the rehearsal another HBO show that just ended
this week. This is the Nathan Fielders show we remember
from a couple of years ago, how Zany it Got?
And Nathan Fielder of course Nathan for You, which is
I think is an all time great comedic show. Goo.
(42:51):
I'm legit having trouble finding words to describe what this
season of the show, what this season of televisian, Season
two of the rehearsal did. What Nathan Fielder was able
to pull off, It's legitimately insane and fucking amazing at
the same time. I just need people to watch it
all six to see what it culminates in. It's legit insane, crazy,
(43:16):
and I was in awe watching the final thirty or
forty minutes of the finale and it might actually lead
to change in real life. What he's done. Nathan Fielder
has got to be the most motivated and created person
on the planet, and I think he's actually capable of
doing anything he sets his mind to. And I'm just
I'm so impressed. I'm not saying it's like the greatest
(43:38):
season of television ever. But it is legitimately it's one
of the most insane seasons of television forever. That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
All Right, Mac, where can the folks find us?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
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That's max Shift seven Goo. It includes Facebook, Stitch Tune
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Speaker 1 (44:00):
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Speaker 1 (44:18):
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have a news dump for one of the episodes. Maybe
Mac will talk about the last of us who knows.
And we also, oh, we didn't see Karate Kid this weekend,
so we're not going to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
And I will not be seeing that.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I'm still I'm fucking confused because I thought the Jackie
Chan one was a reboot slash remake, but apparently it's
been folded into the regular continuity.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Apparently they got a fucking MCU situation here.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I don't know what's happening. Yeah, I don't know what's happening.
I I was, I was doing a little bit of
research yesterday because I saw that it was a sequel
to both nineteen eighty four The Karate Kid and twenty
Ten's The Karate Kid.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
And when Jackie Chan talks about the twenty ten version
and how he was roped into playing that character, they're like, oh,
you're playing Miyagi. So I like how it's he's mister
Han though, yes, I know, but they're sold to him
as it was mister Miyagi. So I don't know how.
I just don't get it. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
At least Jackie Chan is getting nice little payday right now. Yeah,
he has a lot of money, by the way, that's
what he does.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Have a lot of cake.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Rush Hours one and two fantastic.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Oh did you see. Also they're talking about doing a
Rush Hour.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Four that's been in the news for a while, and
he's saying, please hurry up, he's gonna die. Well no,
so he said that he wants the movie to be
made with less money and less time. Okay, less money,
less time, Rush it through, Rush hour it through. You're
gonna get a better result rush Hour three. They took
too much time on it, spent too much money on it.
Not that good.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I would like another Shanghai Night. That's him and Owen Wilson.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, Shanghai nun was I believe it was the first one.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Okay, so, uh, Shanghai Morning would be the next one.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Evenings, Well, no.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
We've already done night, Shanghai Naps. No, think of some
more day parts. It's all I go. We're new to life,
so we don't know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I'm cool with naps. Naps. He's a little older, old guys.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Two old guys taking naps in the West. Once upon
a time in the West took a nap. About damn
time in the West took another nap.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Well, I guess they probably didn't work harder, so there
were sless snaps, or they didn't work at all, and
they only know.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh my god, that's the crossover we need. We need
Shanghai Nights and Wild Wild West jam those some bitches
to either full of those continuities together.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
If we can do if we can do twenty one
Jump Street and Men in Black, we can do Wild
West in Shanghai Knights.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I would love to see elderly Jackie Chan fighting a
robotic spider and scene. Tuesdays are Guesdays. I use kangaroos,
Tam Burton Bye. Please flip the cassette over to side
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