Peacemaker (Season Two)

Spoiler Free for 38 minutes - We discuss the second season of Peacemaker!

Created by James Gunn and starring John Cena, Jennifer Holland, Danielle Brooks, Freddie Stroma, Steve Agee & Frank Grillo - Peacemaker discovers an alternate world where life is everything he wishes it could be. But this discovery also forces him to face his traumatic past and take the future into his own hands.

What did you think of season 2?  Where do they go from here?  Are we dumb?


Also - Mac knows Nickelback Songs, we blind rank best spots & tier best movies starring animals!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ben wrong.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I've been down to the bottom of every bottle. Yeah,
yeah go.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
You asked me a question at the end of the
last episode, how many Nickelback songs do I know? I
got a little gun shylo trigger shy based on the
prior time, not knowing as many Hinder songs as I
thought I knew, I said three new two in my head,
I thought I knew ten Nickelback songs, so I said
seven and what did you know? It ku? The answer eleven?

(00:36):
I know eleven Nickelback songs. How you remind me someday
far away if today was your last day saving me rockstar,
gotta be somebody, animals, photograph if everyone cared and burn
it to the ground. Most of those were singles as
a couple that weren't and then goes a special bonus
to make it a dozen the Chad Kroger and Josie

(00:58):
Scott Uh do wop?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Hero?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Hero from the Spider Man two.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Soundtrack Spider Man one.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I believe right? Okay, yeah, so credit to me. I
think that Nickelback is not a great band. Have I
enjoyed Nickelback over the years?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yes? So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
What a start to this episode what a big market
Tea's paid off? And Mac, you just mentioned a dozen twelve? Mac,
have you heard about these? Have you heard about blind rankings?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I thought you were gonna ask me if I have
heard about dozens?

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Well? Both? Have you heard of either?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah? I'm aware of both blind rankings and dozens.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
All right, So what we have here is I will
give you a subject. We'll put twelve on the board,
and then you need to rank these topics or I'm sorry,
these items inside of the topic and tell me where
they are for you, not knowing what the next piece
of information is, where you could rank that?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
All right? What's the theme of this dozen? Here?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Now? Not to be crass, and if you if you
don't like this topic, I suggest that you head over
to DraftKings headquarters and you demand that Billy D be fired.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Okay, this is his blind ranking.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Billy Delaney, not the other Billy D. The first Billy D.
But not the real first Billy D. Yeah, not you
know Billy D. Williams or William Daniels. I'm talking about
Billy Delaney.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Billy Delaney of the Scream Recap podcast has submitted a
blind ranking.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
He submitted a blind ranking. And also everyone can submit
their blind rankings and we'll do them because makes it
easier for me not to have to think. So once again,
if this is too crass for you, are you going
to keep track?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
For me?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
I always do skip ahead two wish minutes, I say,
tell the folks what they are? I say two because
the topic is best place is to go? Number two?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Best places to go? Number two?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Okay, all right, all right, there's gonna be twelve options.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Twelve options, and by the way, we could have done
twenty five options. Apparently there's a lot of places you
can put a turlet.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Sure, sure, sure, sure.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Top twelve. Best place is to go number two?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay, the in laws that sucks. Let's go eight on that.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
An airplane, twelve home one, the office, five, I lovers,
oh seven.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Outdoors you could find you know, if you got wipes,
maybe got a raggedy T shirt. Outdoors, you can find
a spot. I'm gonna go six.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I was gonna ask you where you find your wife.
I'm glad that you're hardly carrying a ray shirt with you.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I do usually have dude wipes somewhere.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Does one of our friends still carry a hanky?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
With him.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
He used to do you know what I'm talking about? No,
we'll talk off.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Are okay the gym? Oh, the gym's not too bad.
Let's go three on the gym.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
A local chip.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Uh four, or.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
You could have gone Applebee's if you're more familiar with that.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Sure, sure, same thing.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
A porta jean.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Oh, tough, tough. We'll go eleven.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Where you eat? You know what they say, don't do
it where you eat in one hand while wishing in
the other.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
We're going to go four on that one.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
And then finally in your pants.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
All right, so that should have been twelve. We'll put
that at nine.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Mac doesn't mind it, all right. Mac's top twelve of
places to go. Number two at number twelve he has airplane.
Number eleven is porta jean. Number ten is where you eat.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
All three of those might be worse than your pants.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
So number nine is in your pants. Eight is at
the in laws, seven is at O love Us, six
is the great outdoors. Five is at the office. Four
a local Chili's. Three is at the gym. Two is
oh shit, we didn't have a number two.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Oh all right, Put.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
The the two hand thing at four and bump the
other two up to two and three.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
All right, so I'll put in your hand at number two, yes, sure,
in one hand while wishing in the other is number two?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
What you guys do?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
It's an old lives tale. And then at number one
is home home.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Can't beat a home, dookie. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
There are times where you're out and about and you
purposely have to build around the time where you need
to go home to take care of business.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's it's it's just a it's a fact of life.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
So I would say personally, thank you for asking me.
I think the best place to do it is at
the office. Just kills time. You know, you put your
back back down, you put your coat down, go sit
in the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
I suppose what your work setting plays a big factor
into whether you want to drop heat there.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
And then also outside of in your pants, I can
go anywhere, it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
One good, three, yeah, just three, King of Queen Mall
Street Entertainment.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I'm good and I'm Mac.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
And once again, if you didn't like that, open go
find Billy d at DraftKings. I mentioned DraftKings twice. Now, Mac,
I think I am obligated to mention that I am
a DraftKings influencer.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
My question to Billy D is what happened to him recently?
Because he did message us the other day and asked
if we had one on tap? What happened to you
in the last.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
He's been asking a lot for us to do this
one that.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
This came, that hit, this hit you. Where did you
take a terribly awful shit that you needed to ask
us about this? Guys?

Speaker 4 (07:04):
I'm not alone, right, I'm not the only one. Mac.
What is today's topic today?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Goo?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
We are discussing a number two, a season two Peacemaker.
But a little peak behind the curtain here. This was
not a number two. This was quite good, quite good.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
I think you met like. This wasn't actually number two
because there's been a reset in the universe, but they
did keep some things from season one. Also most things.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
We're number one.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
We won't be number two because we're gonna kick the
whoop seas out of you. Is that? Bring it on?

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Bring it on?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Pop Warner cheerly, let's say bring it on. I heard
that a million times in my life.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Goo. Peacemaker season two. It was an HBO Max release.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
It was out Thursday nights, and I gotta be honest
with you, Thursday night is probably the worst release night.
It's well for you.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
For me, I'm home on a Thursday night, and I'm
not super tired from chasing my son around for two
and a half days.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
No Thursdays from me. I like, I'm usually asleep or
in bed by the time this comes out. And then
if I get a busy Friday, I might have plans
Friday night.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I might not catch this.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Still day on Friday. That you're so busy, Get over yourself.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I'm moving a female these days. You, I've got them
all over the map. I got busy weekends now, so
I might not a Thursday night release. I might not
get to till Sunday or Monday. So that's a little
bothersome for me, But I digress.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Goode.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
No budget numbers out for this season. I'm curious to
see what it ends up being, especially since we just
saw the budget numbers for Stranger Things, which is like
upwards of five hundred million uh. The season one budget
for Peacemaker was reportedly one hundred and eighty five million dollars.
That season came out two three, three and a half
years ago, so due to inflation, due to more stuff.

(08:48):
I'm guessing this is in the realm of like two
twenty fifty.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
So what you're telling me is that a dollar is
not worth a dollar.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Dollar is worth a dollar, but wasn't is no longer
worth a dollar. That doesn't sound right?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Sure, sure, sure go Peacemaker.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Season two is a TVMA action adventure, comedy, crime, drama, fantasy,
and sci fi and sub genres here dark comedy, of
course superhero. I've got to say this season of television
did a pretty good job at all of those action adventure, comedy, crime, drama, fantasy,
sci fi gel you have your hand raised.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yeah, I don't think it's much of a superhero show, though.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
You know what, the two weakest elements are comedy and superhero.
Oddly oddly enough.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I'll say this though, is I have you know, I've
made my voice known about, you know, certain things that
I'm kind of getting sick of in superhero movies and
other movies, and while this had both of them in there,
this gets to James Gunn's point of if you're telling
a good story, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, And to be fair, we are already exposed to
it in season one as well, so we knew it
was sort of a.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
No, I'm saying yeah, and like they touch a little
bit on the multiverse stuff, but like multiverse stuff has
kind of gotten a little fatiguing over the past couple
of years. I didn't mind it in this.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Oh I talked to you talking about the Nazi stuff.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
That's just James gunn.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, and it happened in season one, so it's just
a part of it.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
This season was eight episodes with a total run time
of three hundred and thirty two minutes. That's roughly forty
one and a half minutes per episode. You know, with
credits and whatnot, it's probably closer to thirty six thirty seven.
You get a two minute opening fucking song and dance,
it's close to five and a half hours of runtime
for the season, and so essentially two movies worth of
stuff here. And we always discussed length being an issue

(10:43):
for movies always.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Length is always an issue in my life.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Never girth.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
We always have an issue with that, and television shows
often are either too short or too long as well.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
I felt like this was just right. It was just right.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Baby Bear's Porridge.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Baby Bear's Porridge. Now I have some issues with the
finale and what they've chose to do.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, that's you too, and that and it sucks all
the time when you feel like the weakest episode is
the last one, because that's what you're leaving on. And
we'll get to that more in spoilers.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, and I was worried about that, knowing that this
was telling a story but then also had to connect
to other things. I had a feeling it would end
up the way it did. But what are you gonna do?
Go on? Roddy Tea's Season two is ninety six percent
from the critics, eighty percent from the audience, season one
ninety three percent, and eighty seven percent, so the viewers

(11:34):
are liking this a little less. However, we are dealing
with that ten percent of basement dwelling dildos that are
Snyder fans that are going to lampoon any new DC project.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
And I'm just a regular dildo.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
So I'm fine, and I think that's what we're talking
about here. To me, this is head and shoulders above season.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Also, you mentioned the opening theme song the when we
talked about season one, we were able to at the
same time do the theme song. We can't do it
here because we don't want our skins removed in Fortnite.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
We don't want to be screenshotted in a precarious position.
Go on Metacritic, a seventy eight. Season one had a seventy,
So the critics are telling you definitively.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Season two matter. Critics, though I didn't look that. It's
usually a smaller amount on television shows.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, yep, that's true. I think you and I both
agree better than season one. I have seen some online
discourse from pretty reliable people that liked season one more
than this season, which I find bizarre. I think this
is just more fleshed out, more well rounded, more concise,
more driven in one straight line.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
It's also John Cena's better.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
John Cena is better, and also James Gun is not
handcuffed like he was in season one.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
So I think everything, you know what it is?

Speaker 4 (12:49):
May I just step in And this happens with a
lot of shows, a lot of sequels. It's when you're
first meeting the gang and getting the gang together. There's
a newish fee it. I feel that might be what's
holding some people back. Is there familiarity with the characters? Yes,
there is. Now you know these characters, is there familiarity

(13:10):
with how James Gunn tells a story. Is he big
into found families? Yes he is? And is that what
this is by the end?

Speaker 3 (13:21):
To that point, though, I think season one these characters
were not well fleshed out, and I also feel like
they really forced the Ada bio story on us. Season
two just flowed better and then.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
They let it come to well written, they let it
come to you.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
We liked most of the characters season one, I borterline,
loved all of them.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
In season two, Vigilante has taken a huge step forward.
First season, I thought it was pretty funny. This season
I laughed out loud at more than half of the
stuff that he said.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, he was great. He was great once again. This
show was created by James Gunn. He wrote every episode,
wrote the whole season. He also directed three of the episodes.
The other directors in this season were Greg Mottola, ALTHEA. Jones,
and Peter Solett. If you look them up, they're actually
all pretty accomplished television and movie directors. So really well

(14:09):
made show, really well crafted show. A synopsis skew for
this season not really available. Still the same shit from
season one. They just this happens with television. They get
stuck on the synopsis from season one, but essentially synopsis
of this show is Peacemaker and all of his surrounding
pals dealing with the fallout from these suicide Squad and

(14:31):
season one of Peacemaker in On the flip side, you
have a couple of characters introduced here that are dealing
with ramifications from other shows aka Creature Commandos, and so
that kind of gets mismosched together.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
To be fair, though, we have the same synopsis that
we started ten years ago with. If you look us up, it's,
you know, two twenty something year olds who were rival
goaltenders in high school square off in sports debates until
their pants fall.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Off hashteg cocktail goo. This show stars John Cena as
Christopher Smith slash Peacemaker, And to your point about see
it being better in this season, I think in season
one he's mostly Peacemaker. In season two he's mostly Christopher Smith.
And that's actually one of the best best things about
this season.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
There's two or three episodes that really really show this off.
It's the early stuff as he is kind of slinking
into his new life or you know, upsettingly doing it,
and then episode seven is really there's something that happens
at the end that you're like, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Episode seven was fucking incredible. Great, great great. Danielle Brooks
is Leota at a bio. If you forget about her,
she is revealed to be Amanda Waller's daughter in season one.
Felt like in season one they were just pigeonholing and
shoehorning her stuff in as like the beast story of
the season, and we didn't care that much about it.

(15:57):
She matters so much more. I think she plays it better.
She's written better in season two. I love her character now,
really really nicely done. Freddie Stroma as Adrian Chase Slash Vigilanti.
He's almost I mean, he's a cartoonist character, but he's
so cartoonist in season one.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Little more dialed back here.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
In season two as much as he could be, as much.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
As you can. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Jennifer Holland as Agent Amelia Harcourt. She might be the
one character that I felt like was maybe better in
season one, but she was great in season one, so.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
I really liked her in this season too, because you
find out something in episode eight that you thought it
was more than what it was and it's just a
very simple thing.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yes, yeah, she's she was strong in season one. Strying
again here, Steve A. G a Is John Oconomos. He
was probably a bright spot in season one as well.
He's not featured as much here in this season, but
still very good. We get introduced good to Frank Grillo
as Rick Flagg Senior. He's introduced in Creature Commandos, but
live action his first go round here.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Well, live action first go around with Superman?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Is he in Superman?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
For a hot second, Okay, all right, he feels like
he's a much different character than he is in Creature Commandos.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
You having just watched Creature Commando.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
I am five episodes into Creature Commandos, so I still
need a little bit more. But yeah, from what I've seen,
he seems like a much nicer, calmer leader, trying to
you know, almost parent these monsters along being proud of them.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Also, you mentioned not to get too far off into
Creature Commandos, but you mentioned a great Gi Robot scene.
I saw that scene. I did like it.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
That was awesome.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Dresden Dolls, huh. I will say though the music used
in Creature Commandos seems like all the music that James
Gunn wanted to use in the mainstream stuff and they're like, no,
so here He's like, the fucking put it in here,
put all my umpum music over here.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Good.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
In this show, Rick Flagg just feels much meaner, much much.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
More, especially by the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, and there is something that happens at the end
of Creature Commandos that you could argue also fuels that.
And you are dealing with the death of his son
and the suicide squad.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
It just feels like.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
A big leaping seeing how close he is with meta
humans and Creature Commandos to where he gets in this show.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Creature Commandos is not meta humans. They're monsters. That's why
they're allowed to bet couple of them, you know, because
so in the first episode, I'm glad that I'm the
expert here now. So that delineation Amanda Waller is. Someone
says to her like, wait a second, I thought, we
can't use humans and meta humans anymore, and she goes,

(18:32):
can if they're monsters.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
You're right, You're right, that is the thing. But Rick Flagg,
he's making that delineation to me, he would treat them
all same, but maybe not, maybe not Saul Rodriguez a
Sasha Bordeaux. She doesn't play a huge role in the season.
Seems like she's gonna be more meaningful going forward. Dee
Bradley Baker goo Is eagerly steps it.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Up in season two.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Picked they do anything at season one, but she does
some stuff here in season two. Goode. We have another
cast of characters here that bounce around throughout the season.
One of the shining stars is Tim Meadows. Is Lengthston Fury.
He's in seven of the eight episodes, and he's not
featured at length in any of the episodes, just two
minutes here or there, and he's brilliant.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Well, he's in a bunch of the surveillance episode that
would be where he probably shines the most. But then
he gets one or two lines as you approach the
end of the year every episode that you're like, it's nice,
that's pretty funny. That's a good line delivery. Also, we
get bird blindness from him, and we get like, I'm
gonna laugh every time at the Peppermint Twins. I think
that is so funny. One of them was bald, one

(19:34):
of them was blonde.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
I'm very excited to have him lingering in our stuff
going forward, dude. Robert Patrick returns as Augie Smith, and
in this season of Peacemaker he plays a character called
Blue Dragon, and season one he was the White Dragon
and they get into that a little bit. David Deadman
ak Roy from the Office is here. Is Keith Smith

(20:02):
slash Captain Triumph. That is Christopher Smith's Peacemaker's brother, and
they get into that a little bit as well. Nutlee
returns as Judo Master. He's a great character too, He's
I thought it was great in season one.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
They carry that on into season two.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
And hot Cheetos are the best.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Hot Cheetos are okay, regular are superior?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
You sweet?

Speaker 3 (20:22):
What superior regular Cheetahs?

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Oh my god, that is the dumbest take you've ever had.
And we cheatso hear me out too hot? May I
suggest extreme hot cheetahs?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Hot fries too hot? Give me cheeddar fries.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Hot fries are better too. Give me spice all the time.
But you know me, I'm an alpha. I need heat.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Other characters here are Brandon Stanley as agent, Kleine, Ronaldo
Faberley as agent and Vega. You have Michael Rooker in
here for a couple episodes as Red Saint Wild Taylor
Saint Clair plays Vigilantes Mom. She's good in every scene
she's in. And then we have in episode one these
ones we can talk about. Sean gunn is Maxwell Lord,
Nathan Fillion his guy Gardner, and Isabella merced is Hawk Girl.

(21:05):
They pop up briefly in the first episode. There is
a spoiler ish cameo in episode six. I believe that
we will get to in spoilers Goo Yes. In guns DCU,
what has mattered so far is pieces of the Suicide
Squad aka Rick Flagg Junior gets killed by Peacemaker. Peacemaker

(21:27):
season one, A lot of that still counts here. Creature
Commandos technically the first venture into this fresh DCU that
all matters, and then we just had Superman a couple
months ago. So this is either the third or fifth
entry into guns DCU.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
However you want to.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
I'm gonna say fail. I feel like it's the fifth.
I feel like all of these Suicide Squad counts because
Waller kind of talked about it a little bit, and
Creature Commandos Peacemaker season two uses a lot of what
they had in season one. I'm just looking at it
as these five.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Okay, for me, and so I think we're off to
a pretty good start here in the universe.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
So the ground has been laid, the path has been laid.
I think we're leading to some really fun and exciting stuff.
As much as I loved Superman, I don't think we've
really reached a high high yet, and we're building towards that,
and I'm excited for it. What we've seen in prior
stuff is a company called Argus who's sort of like,

(22:27):
for lack of a better term, this like power military
group that tries to control everything and kind of works
with the government, but also is like an aside to
the government. So Rick Flagg Senior is working for Argus,
and he's on the war path in major part due
to Peacemaker killing Rick Flagg Junior in the events of
the Suicide Squad. And then also something happens at the

(22:48):
end of Creature Commandos that really, you know, takes a
shit on his chest and he doesn't care for that,
and I think motivates him for this season. I don't
think it motivates him enough. I still have a little
bit of an issue there.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, also has white Creature command Now he has black hair.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Good point, he got he found the Just for Men.
One of the first things we do in this season
the first few minutes, is we retcon the post credit
scenes from season one with Superman, Aquaman, Flash, Wonder Woman,
and Batman. Here we have the Justice King, we have Hawkgirl,
Guy Gardner's green Land Lantern, Mister Terrific, Mister Terrific, and Superman.

(23:26):
And that was like a perfect little like all right, perfect,
We don't need to explain anything else.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
It works. It works. I can I talk.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
About Creature Commando's Season one is that it's been out
long ago. It's year So at the end of Creature
Commando's Season one, the Bride assassinates Princess Alana, who is
Rick Flaggan for Rick Flagg's seniors love interest. But something
happens to Flag late in that season where he's kind
of out of commission and misses kind of all of

(23:53):
what goes down prior to the assassination, and so he
is kind of upset that metal humans, okay, their monsters
in this So is that combined with the death of
his son in the Suicide Squad enough to make sense
for what Flag's motivations are in this season. I'm not
so sure. There's a little bit off there. Well, no,

(24:13):
I just think so over the top in this season.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
I think the fact that he also made a strange bedfellow,
if you will, that might have pushed him into also
really pushing against the meta humans.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I just feel because he's like a likable character in
Creature Commandos and he's not anymore.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Especially by episode eight, he is very unlikable.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah. Yeah, And again, before getting to a ton of spoilers,
what this season really boils down to is Christopher Smith
John Cena figuring out who he is, what makes him go,
and the ripple effect of all that is kind of
all of his characters, our whole gang, sort of figuring
out what their deal is. And I really enjoy each

(24:55):
and every individual's journey in this season and where they
sort of culminate, I think it comes together perfectly until
the finale, where it's like, all right, this is a little.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
If we're gonna spend an hour on an episode, let's
do something.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's there's a bit of that, but
all the characters get flushed out. I truly enjoy all
of them now, borderline love all of them. And in
season one that wasn't the case. It just felt more
one note.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, season one to me, by the end I was
I liked it, but I would just I walked away
wanting a lot more. Yeah, I felt like they had
more to offer, and what they offered in season two
is pretty much.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
What I wanted. Yeah, No, I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
That shall we get into the gaunt Lent put an
and in there it's gaunt lent As you said, I said,
gaunt lent, oh like as opposed to got milk.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Got Lent not an offshoot of Easter.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
No, that'd be a good advertising though, got lent fun factor.
The comedy in this I think is the fun part.
And then also seeing the evolution of what Sina is
able to do on the screen is also really fun
to me too.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Vigilantes fun, Economos is fun. Eagerly is fun. Uh, Judo
Master is fun?

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Was Michael Rooker fun? Or was he a bit too
out there?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
It was a little shoehorned in for sure?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
You know who was fun? Tim Meadows, tim Meadows, This
Meadows fun. There's a lot of this. So this there
wasn't other than tim Meadows dialogue. There wasn't a ton
of actual loud laughs for me, but it was comical.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Well, Tim Meadows and Vigilante both got really big laughs
for me. And then you have Economos, who is who
is the straight man up against Tim Meadows? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Satisfactor.
The finale answered questions, but after the the truly great
episode of episode seven, the way that episode is from

(26:52):
start to finish, actually from episode six through seven, both
those episodes are great. All the episodes are very good,
but after what we got through seven episodes, I thought
that eight was a little bit of a letdown.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Eight almost feels like a prologue going forward and barely
attached to this season.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
It almost answers the questions that we had throughout the year. Yeah,
but they aren't. It's not like it's not a big answer.
It's like a little a little small answers, a little
dip CRuMs that.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, it was just a little too so subdued, a
little too happy, go lucky, a little just a little
just missed the mark. It wasn't bad, It's just like
after six and seven, which were two great episodes, especially seven,
in the ramp up to the end of seven, eight
just felt like, I don't know, it didn't have the juice.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
That a bit of a happy ending too, like a
happy sappy ending.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, until the very very end. But yeah, there's two
and then.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
After that there's even more after that. We're trying not
to spoil, so we're gonna add stuff on and then
and then then he fights an octopus Halloween. Will this
wane over time? Let's see what we get moving forward.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, I agreed.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I'm on the fence.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I'm sitting right on that fence with you.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, makin go famously on the fence without.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
On chain link vinylo.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Hopefully not picket, hopefully not picket Borometer. I wasn't bored
at any point this year, you know what.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I was a little bored in the finale. Oh no,
the first time all season I was a little bored
was in the finale.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Aw Quarter World. Is it better than the nineteen ninety
five classic water World starring Kevin.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Costner, Yeah, it's better pants.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Tent City, Excite, bike Mania. What got you going from
this season? It was the introduction of tim Meadows and
it was episode seven, Like, the action of this season
really isn't there. There's not a ton of action, but
it's the rebuild of Chris's life and him realizing that

(28:54):
he's not a certain way or that he has a
new support system behind him. That was a nice little journey.
But it was the end of episode seven and Tim
Meadows that really got me going.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, I agree that it was lacking what episode seven
gave us, So I'm glad for episode seven. A couple
great moments, a couple really unexpected moments as well in
episode seven, so I was happy to be swerved. So
if if we had a pants tent or the close
thing to a pants tent was for sure episode seven.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
I guess you can say that about most of guns
DC universe so far. Of like there's like there's not
that big stand out, like, oh, it's a just a
consistent good Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, that's probably the best way to describe it.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
When life hands you Jesse Plemmons in your hands, they say, hey,
is Jesse Plemmons. It makes plemonade. You'd like to take
a sip. You take a sip, and you say, damn,
that's good. That's twenty five percent better than what I
could have expected in the world. What in this television
show and or movie. It's a television show. I'm just

(29:58):
reading the script who made Plemonade.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's harder in a show, right because there's multiple episodes,
so the characters pop up. But the percentage of the
total run time I think qualifies to metals as Lengthston
Flurry here as a Plemonade candidate, and every time he
was on the screen he said something funny.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
So I feel like he's in too much of the show.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Though, so then there's no I mean, you could.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Give it to someone that's a spoiler. I suppose maybe.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
But that he's almost in too little of it.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
I think everyone served their job.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Give me Tim medals.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
I'll say Tim Meadows too, but I think that we're
stretching what Plemonade is.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
I don't agree. I think he was in like five
percent of the show, so that's good enough.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Mac cahl, are you give him credit to?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
This is a tough one. Clearly.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
John Cena takes another step forward here in his acting
nobility and his character now is truly in a great spot.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
You really behind what his motivations are.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
That said bigger leaps for me were Danielle Brooks is
out of bio and I don't want to forget his
name here. Freddy Stroma as Adrian Chason Vigilante. I think
they deserve the most kudos because I think they round
out the season most after uh SENA. Of course, you
know Holland his Hardcourt is great. A g Is Economost

(31:15):
is great. But I think from where they were from
season one to season two, you have to give Danielle
Brooks is out of bio and Freddy Schrouber's Vigilante their flowers.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
For those of you tardy to the Mac and Goo party,
we rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system.
Mac I have gushed over the evolution of John Cena
and that character or you dive in, don't interrupt me
for context.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
For the folks at home, Good and I both gave
season one thirty two B C plus B minus range
pretty good, not great.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
So once again the evolution of John Cena the uh
knowing that Tim not Tim Gunn. James Gunn isn't Tim Gunn.
He's like a fashion guy, right.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, Tim Gunn has a yeah yeah yeah, that doesn't
have a show.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Tim Gunn is in charge now. James Gunn, you can tell,
is in complete control of this universe from start to finish.
A little bit less an episode eight, but what we
do with the characters, how we pick up the pieces
of season one. This is not reliant on being a
superhero show. There's barely any superhero work at all. It's

(32:19):
almost like an inner office type of thing, where in
this alternate universe he's just at an office hanging out.
That is Tim Gunn, thank you, but being introduced to
his brother, the reintroduction of his father, but now as
different people as they have grown up in a different universe.
What they do with the father in this season I

(32:40):
thought was great, Yes, we do get into you know,
these guys are obviously the bad guys. It's the white supremacist,
but that is such a small part and almost doesn't
even play a role in this series. It's just what
we have for a very small amount of time. And
it's also just a punchline at the beginning of one
of the episodes, and it's a pretty one as well.

(33:01):
The way that they built the characters in this season
I thought was head and shoulders above what they did
in season one. And James Gunn once again does something
where he takes things that I think the audience is
sick of or I'm sick of, and he just points
out once again that if you have a strong, compelling story,

(33:24):
it doesn't matter what the elements are. And I think
that he is the answer to superhero fatigue. But he
does do his usual let's toss some music in over
here that you're not expecting. We're gonna lean heavily on
found family. Does that bother me? No? But if you

(33:45):
have James Gun fatigue, I could see you not necessarily
loving that Mac. Up until the finale of this show,
I thought that we were heading toward something a little
bit higher than what I'm gonna say right now. But
in thirty seven hot.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Dogs, Okay, I think you're in the right range here.
You sort of nailed my feelings on the season.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Meadows, tim Meadows. Have you mentioned tim Meadows yet?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
My biggest gripe with the season is the finale and
Rick Flagg's motivations. Both of those things I actually think
bring the season down a little bit. I just there's
I'm having a hard time drawing the line from A
to B for flag and then the finale was a
little bit of a letdown. That aside, I loved that
this season built out our characters, We built out Christopher Smith.

(34:40):
We got to know who Christopher Smith was we showed
proper motivation for who he becomes. The end of the season,
we get a little bit of, you know, a peek
into his his background, Vigilantes background, at a Bios background,
Harcourt's background, and it really really pulls the whole group together.
Knowing how these people are feeling and acting in certain situations.

(35:03):
It's just so well done. And that can be not
well done. It can feel boring, it can feel like
we're wasting our time. But because this seasons so paced
well and so written well, it really really works for me.
I love this cast of characters. They're almost all on
the same playing field here, Like Peacemaker to me doesn't
stand out head and shoulders above the rest of the cast.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Of characters might fee a little bit lower.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
I don't, which is.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
What the strength, which is why this show is so good.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I think so. I'm right there around you, goo. I
think it's thirty six For me. It just does is
as great as the standout moment in episode seven was it.
I still feel like we lacked the real.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Let me ask you this, though, let me ask you this,
if we got a not a stronger finale because they
fill in the blanks, I understand that, but for an
hour of television. I and maybe it's an expectation thing.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
But if they.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Blew your socks off in the finale, did it have
a chance at forty hot dogs?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Maybe thirty nine or thirty eight? I'm not sure. I
was wondering about that going into the finale. I was like,
does this have a chance to get to forty? I
guess you know what, if they blew my socks off,
it could have got to forty.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I think, are you feeling the same way?

Speaker 4 (36:14):
I feel like there's a possibility. Like I was having
such a fun time. It was appointment television. I was
Thursday Nights nine o'clock watching immediately, So I think there
was a chance. Also, it's a nice compact eight episodes,
but there was a chance. I think that if if
my nips came off, if I knew longer, if I
no longer had nipples, there was a chance at forty.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I don't think you're wrong about that. I think there
was a possibility of getting there. And gou let's compare
it to some other superhero stuff we've gotten this year.
Obviously we had Superman. Did you like this better or
worse than Superman?

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Superman over this. But I also we've made this point
on the television not the television show.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Are we at TV show 'or on YouTube?

Speaker 4 (36:56):
I have made this point that I will always lean
move over TV show. If the hot dogs are close, I.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Got them at the exact same score thirty six. I
might actually lean Peacemaker. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I have to think about that.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Are we opposites?

Speaker 3 (37:11):
I liked Fantastic four First Steps more than Peacemaker?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Hey, mac are you are you today's date? Because you're
you're ten out of ten?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Good? Did you like Fantastic four First Steps more than people?

Speaker 4 (37:25):
I just gave you a piece like, that's what you
should say to your lady.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Okay, say that to her. I will I write that down, talk.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
About blowing socks off. That's gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Peace Maker or Fantastic four peace Maker?

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Okay, I like Fantastic four, thunderboltser piece Maker similar. I
think that they deal with kind of similar things of acceptance,
leaning into what brings you down. You know it's it
has a little theme.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
I like it. You know what, we should be thankful
the year of Colic book stuff we've gotten in twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Has been great. It's been great iron Me.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
The worst thing has probably been Thunderbolts, and that was
pretty fucking great.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
You love iron Heart?

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Oh I forgot about iron Heart? Yeah, this was better
at the.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Top of Max pretty good though, Marble Zombies, Mac loves
Marvel Zombies.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Forgot about iron Heart. Our heart is pretty good. That
was I Heart's the worst thing of the year. You're
doing pretty good.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
I think it's by far. Like looking at the other ones,
that's a that's three or four tiers below it.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Here, here's a question for you, iron Heart or peace
Maker season.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
One Season one A piece maker?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Okay, I think they're pretty close.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Here's a question for you. Have you used that line
on your girl yet?

Speaker 3 (38:33):
No? Not yet.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
I thought you were texting it right there. I will,
I will, because if you did, you wouldn't be here
right now. You'd be off blowing socks. Shall we get
the spoilers.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Spileeru of spilers of spoilers?

Speaker 4 (38:46):
My first question is, ah, sorry, what in the fuck
was that a little cough?

Speaker 3 (38:52):
You know?

Speaker 4 (38:53):
I thought you've thought someone stabbed you?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Holy lord, you think I got sand chezed?

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Possibly? So, my god, I'm gonna take a step back
for a second. The agent that hooks up with Flag, what's.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Her name, Sasha Bordeu.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Was she turned on by him kicking the shit out
of Peacemaker?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Possibly?

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, she's kind of an assassin in her in her
own right. They also don't, I don't. We still don't
know much about her. She's part cybord Like how much
cyborg is she did Flag bang a robot? You know?

Speaker 4 (39:29):
We don't know. It's five toront is out so goo.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
At the conclusion of this show, the final few seconds
of the season minutes of the season, Flag and Argus
send Christopher Smith aka Peacemaker off into a distant planet
through one of those portal doors. Could be an alternate
to mention, could just be a distant planet. I'm not
one hundred percent sure. This planet is called Salvation, and

(39:56):
Flag's plan is to imprison all the matter he humans
on this planet. That way they can not get.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Pop Flag working with Lex Luthor like this is Luther
my imagination.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
I don't think that's Luther's planet to imprison.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
I think Luther and they put a little sticky note
goo the door they go through with the black hole.
I think Luther's more interested in the tech in the
magical stuff like that sort of realnd.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I don't think he really cares about imprisoning all these
meta humans now.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
I think he also hates meta humans. He hates the
he hates the idea of aliens meta humans getting praise
for something that they have not earned. That's something that
we learned in Superman. I have a feeling, much like
how Tony Stark wrote the Sokovia Accords, that this is
mostly Luther's doing. He also talked about his hatred of

(40:46):
meta humans while in jail.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
I disagree Goo.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
I think he's gonna be upset with Flag because I
think a big part of Superman Tomorrow is going to
be Luther and Superman working together against Flag and Argus.
I don't think Luthor wants this tech used for this.
I think he's gonna think it's a waste.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
I think there's enough tech to go around.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
So essentially, and this is I'm glad you brought this up.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Guns whole tease and whole spiel has been for months now,
is that the finale of the show directly ties in
to Superman Man of Tomorrow. So once again, Peacemaker is
on salvation. That's the name of this prison planet, and
they now have Peacemaker's alien door technology, and Sidney Happerson,
who is Lex Luthor's tech guy, is now being utilized

(41:33):
by Argus and they're broadening their horizons, expanding stuff and
exploring these other doors in that little pocket dimension. From
what I've read, Goot Salvation is a comic storyline that
actually ends up being tied into dark Side, another Superman villain,
And essentially that storyline is that all of these meta

(41:56):
humans get in prison on Salvation, So presumably Superman will
have to deal with this sort of interdimensional or you know,
extraterrestrial mess, and I think that's where Lanterns may come
into the mix as well. And Flag is also being
deceitful with the government. He's not really telling them that
this other place might have some issues. That's tease at

(42:16):
the end with this big monster's scream. I don't know
if there's dinosaurs there or what. But we spend almost
an hour to bill to this point, and it's like,
I don't know, I it is okay.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
They spent five minutes at a concert having fun. Yeah,
and I get it's to make up for the first
one where she ran away. I all so like that's
a decent reveal that because Chris talks the whole season
about like do you remember that night and you think
the whole time, Oh did they sleep together? Yeah, No,
they just had a fun time.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
They just got to know each other.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
They bonded, got to.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Know each other, they bonded. He really likes her, and
then she didn't like getting close to him. But I
feel like they spent a lot of time just hands up,
dancing to music, which you love, going to concerts. You're
probably having time.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
One of the undercurrents, or two of the undercurrents of
this season is that Harcourt doesn't want to address her
feelings for Chris because in large part what happened to
Rick Flagg Junior and just her pass in general. As
an aside to that, Chris is still fully interested in
Harcourt and pursuing that. But also, and this culminates in

(43:21):
episode seven, and we see at the beginning of episode eight,
Peacemaker believes himself to be this sort of angel of
death that everyone around him is doomed and he doesn't.
He's putting now, he's pushing away because he didn't doesn't
want other people to be affected by his actions in
his past transgressions.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
He's also so into Harcourt that he goes into an
alternate timeline and finds a white supremacist version of her
and dates her. So the reveal at the end of
episode six was pretty good. The start of episode seven
of Harcourt the regular one being like, you didn't notice
the merrill on the wall and he's like, I just

(43:58):
didn't pay attention to it. Like that was a.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Real funny He's actually Hitler.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Yeah, it's this Hitler, So like that was a really
really funny joke. Yeah, And my question now is, so, like,
are we expecting Roy to show up in a Peacemaker
season three?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I don't know if there's gonna be a peace Maker
season three number one? But he they go out of it.
So the culmination the the zenith, the big action at
the end of episode seven is Vigilante comes flying in
to save his best friend Peacemaker and stabs Peacemaker's dad
to death a million times after.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
His dad reveals that like, yeah, we do live in
a Nazi world, but I'm doing my best to change
the pretty good guy.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, So that was like, oh, first of all, the
reveal that like his dad in this universe, and the
Nazi universe isn't a Nazi, and then his universe he
is a Nazi. Like that was a good flip the script,
and you're like, oh, all right, so maybe we will
work with Augie and Keith going forward, Blue Dragon and
Captain Triumph. And then and Vigilante comes in, not knowing
what has just been revealed, and stabs the shit out

(45:05):
of Augie, and then they turn on Keith and they're
killing him. They're slaughtering him, and Chris lets out this guttural.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
This beceral scream yes.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Because he's having all the past drama. This PTSD is
finally exploding, and he doesn't want this version of his
brother to die the same way essentially his brother died
in his own universe. And they make a point of
Harcourt saying, hey, don't come after us, or like I'm
gonna kill you so you don't come after us.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
That doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
The other vigilante kicks the door closed, and by the way,
the whole too vigilante thing was fucking on.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Two vigilante thing. The Spider Man pointing meme is now in.
So that is in the DC universe also Star Wars.
They mentioned Jedi Masters.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
They also mentioned Pokemon, their favorite.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Pokemon, Pokemon's Pokemons. What I love about the but not
killing of Roy, but that that last scene is you're
seeing him being killed. Chris is sitting back picturing in
his mind when he accidentally killed his brother in his
own timeline. The scream that he lets out is like

(46:13):
you can feel it in your soul, like you can
feel that scream, and then the cutback to all of
his friends killing his brother. I laughed at that, like
it got so many emotions out of me, that one
like one minute clip.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah, yeah, that that four or five minutes in the bedroom.
There are fucking phenomenal leading up to that point. I
bought the stuff and like in the Nazi universe, was
was pretty good. Like I enjoyed it. You kind of
knew you had a feeling that reveal was coming. A
lot of fan theories.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
I mean, you noticed the second episode that they were
in there when they go into the outside world and
everyone's white, you kind of picked.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
I guess we should mention the first major moment in
the season, at the end of episode two, I think,
is when he kills his own alternate self so that's
a big thing that makes it possible for him to
live in the alternate reality. And so the middle episodes
of the season is him going back and forth between
the two realities and realizing, hey, he loves being with Hardcourt,
he loves his easy life in this other universe. And

(47:12):
obviously what comes to Fruition is like, life shouldn't be easy.
If it is easy, something's going on here, something nefarious.
So I really liked that. Like, I didn't think any
of that was particularly great in the middle middle episodes,
but it was paced really well, and it was it
all made sense, it all worked for me. So I
felt like the middle episodes were all like thirty two,
thirty three, thirty four, thirty five dogs.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
So you're saying this stuff when he's in the alternate timeline. Yeah,
it's all good, because I don't like. I enjoyed pretty
much anytime they were in that office setting with tim
Meadows and Economos. And then also the trap to catch
Chris I thought was really fun too.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah, and also with this device of him being in
the alternate timeline, it gave us a chance to sit
and get to know the other characters, and that to
me is what made the season.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Yeah, anything else, I think that's it.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
I think I'm excited going forward for guns DCU. We
have a lot of things laid down now, you know,
we had some things in motion here and I think
he's doing it right. Is even if we don't love
stuff to forty dog degrees, he's doing it right. And
if you go back, at least for me, a lot
of my feelings and it's hard not to compare it

(48:21):
a lot of my feelings about phase one of the MCU.
I didn't have anything of forty dogs until we got,
you know, close to Avengers and even that, like, so
we're getting there, We're building up to the forty dog property.
I just don't know.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Oh and in case you guys didn't get what we
were alluding to in spoiler free, this finale also saw
so Chris realizes or he doesn't realize, but he picks
up on the fact that he not only he killed
his family in his own timeline, he got a second
chance with his family killed them in the other timeline,

(48:53):
but then realize that his friends were his family all along. Yes,
which that is very gunny. In what we get, it's
a lot of guardians the suicide Squad. So if you are,
if you're a little fatigued by Gun doing this in
his movies and TV shows, I could see you having
a bit of a gripe. But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
I mean, that's the essence of superhero movies though, sons,
you know. But even Batman's in the Justice League, it's
all about teams and teams.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
He doesn't give.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Just one more thing, of which we failed to mention.
Right before Peacemaker gets sent off to whatever salvation, him
and the gang start this new independent group called Checkmate,
and they also have added judo Master Sasha Bordeaux and
Tim Slurry. Yeah, so that's it's good. And you're like,
they're walking out, like, ah, alright.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
They spent so much time on that slow pace walk out.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Yeah it was. It was the finale was too cheesy
for a little bit of it.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Too much of the finale. I was sitting back just
going all right, okay.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Like, okay, it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
I don't like, Yeah, yeah, I guess we wrapped up that. Yeah,
there goes that chapter. All right, cool, It just it
didn't it didn't give me enough.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. Let's get into.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Mac Sack and mack Sack could be anything. It could
be a boat. Mac. Of course, we wrapped up Septeerer
at the end of September and we have now gone
down the road of hawk tierber. Is it the same
as September? Yes? Sometimes spooky today?

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Is it spooky?

Speaker 4 (50:39):
No? Because in our last episode we discussed best movies
starring animals. Okay, so the other Billy D. Not that
raunchy piece of shit Billy Delaney who we talked about
at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Billy D's are aiding this episode, right, but.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Also not William Daniels or Billy d Williams. Right, they're
not involved yet yet. We did meet William Daniels once
and we were very concerned.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
I think we met us corpse.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
A wax figure Paris Hilton style. If you ask mey,
she was in a movie called House of Wax. I'm
like correct, I thought it was wax Paris Hilton.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yes she was.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
She wasn't something with wax.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Yeah, one night in Paris she pop a tit out
that one night in Paris.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yes, oh, that she does.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
So, Mac. Just a quick reminder to you before we
get into these tears, I want to point out to
you that we have introduced into our tiers. So we've
always done stamps stamp removers. Where's the stamp stamp stamp remover?
We've added Mario Maker, which at the beginning we said

(51:49):
you could either build a new tier or flip tears.
I've decided that that's only to build tears. I don't
have a sound effect for this yet, but moving forward,
if you'd like to flip tears, it's called DJ. Please
pick up your phone. I'm on the request line, all right,
the thang down, flip it in reverse. Yeah, if you

(52:13):
got a big let me search it. I want to
get to today's tier. And you want to keep on
singing Missy Elliott because I watched that music video last night.
That song is a banger.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Let's got that little girl from Mike's Super Short Show.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
All right, Max, So let's go ahead and add this.
This is best movies starring animals, Best.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Movie starring animals. Sorry, how many tiers do we have?

Speaker 4 (52:37):
We have five tiers? I think I have like fifteen movies.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
This is just.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Movies, Okay. Television is for a different day. There's a
lot of TV show animals. Wishbone just turned thirty yesterday, Wishbone.
Great show. The dog I'm afraid has passed. There's no
way the dog.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Is till ye right, No, we're probably on Wishbone free
at this point.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Oh come on, Mac, you can't just replace he used
to wear like an old timey hat. It's a good episode.
He could go back in time, right, Yeah, what did
Wishbone do?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
He told us history via the eyes of a d hug.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Just like the animated show Hysteria.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Yes, it's time for Hrsterea.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Then you had the ads where I think Joan of
arc is like, why don't we call it hrsterea. Let's
get into these tears. I'm wasting too much time.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Yeah you are so.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
The tears that we have here is at the bottom,
pet cemetery, garbage dead. You think it's dead, put it
at the bottom, put it in the dirt. We don't care.
The next one up here is great pawformance. But this
is an animal. This isn't an animal movie. So if
you think there's an individual great performance by an animal,

(53:47):
put it in here. But it's not enough of an
animal movie.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Good enough.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
The next one up here is the Great catsby.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
So borderline great movies.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Here, it's great for a time, but then it goes
broke by the end. Nort depressions. Yeah, there we go.
Then the next one up here.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Is raise the roof, Oh like roof.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Yeah, but you need to say it like like a dog.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Okay, because these are themed that broke the barriers of
animal movies.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
And then at the top the number one, like the
highest one you can do, whale of a time.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Will of a time? All right, Yeah, the pantheon of
animal animal movies.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Okay, let's start here. And I did most of these.
The other Billy d added a couple. I'm not happy
with his additions, but we'll just do it anyways. One
and one Dalmatians, the live action one.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Great Catsby It's it's solid, it's does it does its job.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Glenn Close is great. You get all those Dalmatians?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Sure? Why not?

Speaker 4 (54:42):
All right? Starring Buddy air Bud, Raise the roof.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
This movie blew my mind as to what a dog
starts to what a movie starring an animal.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Good achieve, Airbud, great movie.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Also say it the right way, raise the roof. And
just a little fun fact for the people at home,
you can clip this and put it on online. The
dog that plays air Bud. Buddy also played Comet in
Full House.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Oh how about that?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
So a little fun fact.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Right, You also might see Buddy when we do our
tiers of best animal actors? Are we an animal month?

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Now he might be the goat of animal actors.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Well you saved that take for that teer, I'd say.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
And then in that we could actually put it as goat,
because a goat's an animal, all right.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
In the movie Anchorman Baxter to.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Mean mad about that backster?

Speaker 3 (55:34):
That movie's great and Edd is a great paformance, but
not an animal movie.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Of course, Baxter was played by Peanut.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Don't be mad about that backs Peanut.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
The Dog, the Whole Wheel of Cheese the next one,
not Pier Mac nineteen ninety five's Babe.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Babe, great catsby what?

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Yeah? Great Away?

Speaker 4 (55:54):
Are you more of a gordy guy?

Speaker 3 (55:56):
I haven't watched these movies in twenty years ago, loger,
thirty years.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I might have to slap a veto on here and
raise the roof.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Oh wow, okay.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Let's raise the roof on.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Babe.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
All right, there's are you stamping that?

Speaker 4 (56:08):
No, I'm not gonna stamp it yet. I'm gonna save
my stamp.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
You moved one up, we get two, we get.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Two vetos and one of everything else.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Okay, all right, there's one of yours.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Babe played by Babe. How about Bansheese and a Sharon.
There's a little donkey in there.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
You're right, you're right, great performance, but not an animal movie.
Not an animal movie.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Donkey is played by Jenny. Okay, Jenny, the little donkey.
How about from our childhood, big old German shepherd Beethoven.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
He is not a German shepard. He's a Saint Bernard.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
That's the same thing, right, I have dog blindness.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Mac Beethoven, I think superior and Babe, so it's got
to be at least the roof.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Think Beethoven is better than Babe.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
No doubt, no doubt, raise the He's the roof, but
not as high as air Bud.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Jeez, I don't know if I like that.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Well, same tier as Babe.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Anyways.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
So the dog that played Beethoven, it is a Saint Bernard.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
You're right.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
He played Beethoven in the first two movies of that franchise,
Good Good Run. His name was Chris or Chris.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I don't like naming dogs. Chris don't care for that.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
That's either with a ch or a k. Google Ai
overview did not have an answer for me, Black Stallion,
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Seen this movie.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Have you seen this movie as a kid.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I'm gonna put it in the pet cemetery. What I
have no idea what it is.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
It's a horse, oh, I know that much. It's a
horse portrayed by cass Ol a Texas bread or Arabian.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I'm glad you brought the stats for these animals.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
By the way, that's.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
A weird name, though, cass Owl like watch your profanity.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
I know, watch your profanities.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
Black Stallion might need a little more love. Free Willie, Oh.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I loved Free Willy.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
It's kind of named for will of a time. But
I don't know if it stands up. I don't know
if Free Willy stands up.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
A tear where we have nothing on top, I.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Know which one's going up top for me? Anyways, raise
the roof for Free Willy.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
I might move it after.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
But also I believe it as well.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
I believe that you could remake Free Willie now and
make it better.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
I agree with that wholeheartedly.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Free Willy stars Keiko. If you're looking for a good
cry Google what happened to Keiko?

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Not great?

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Not great? Floppy dorsal fin depressed sent back into the wild, didn't.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Make it happens to the best of us.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
How about Grizzly the nineteen seventies horror movies starring a
real bear?

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Oh it start a real bear.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
I gave it a googs.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
That's skeiey. I've never seen it, pet Cemetery, Homeward Bound
Well of the time, it's the best movie ever starring animals,
like easily for me.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
It stars this, of course is Simon and Garfunkles. Homeward Bound.
Ben is played by Shadow. Shadow Wrestler is played by Chance.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
No Chance, Chance is the dog and Shadows the dog.
You flip flopped them.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
And then Sassy is played by Tiki.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Oh Ticky, I like that, like that, and she is
real Sassy.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
So I'll admit this next one is my fault for
having it on the list. But Billy should have proof
read this and said Jaws was a mechanical shark. It
can't be on a real list of animals, correct, So
I'm gonna leave it here at the bottom.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Okay, I was gonna put it in great performance. Maybe
there is a there might be a seagull in that
movie they captured.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
But the robot's name is Bruce. It does not get
you going Bruce the shark. And then we go to
Marley and Me.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Oh, Marley and Me is good. It's so sad. It's
better than Dalmatians. It's in raised. Is it?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Will of a Time? It made me cry. It's will
of a Time?

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Man looks like Clyde, Got you going? Who plays Marley?
The next one up? Pierre and I get some fun
facts to share after MVP Most Valuable Primeate.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
I do like this movie. I do like this movie.
Do I like it more than air Bud?

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Though I do?

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
I'll tit my hand and might. Yeah, let's put MVP
in Well of a Time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Well of a Time, and I'm not even gonna argue
that bucket.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Mac.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Are you ready for this?

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Three Champanzees played the character of Jack artitular MVP Most
Valuable Primeate, Bernie Mac and Louie.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I like that real lazy naming, but I liked.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Each chimp was trained by experts to perform actions, so
they all had specialties. One played hockey, one skateboarded, and
one snowboarded.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
That's I mean, that's why MVP stands out above Airbud, you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Know, and are you ready for this? Louis the Chimp. Yeah,
also played Jack's brother in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
The film Wow. How about that?

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
So we can add that to the list of actors
who played two characters and one MultiMate, just like Lindsay Lohan,
my dog Skip.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
I've never seen it. I've never seen it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
It's got Frankie Munez and it's not Big Fat Liar
or agent Cody Banks.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Shout out, Lizzie Maguire, ak Hillary Duff, put it where
you'd like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Come on, man, that's what she said. I'll go powformance Okay, Nah,
great caatsby h fix me in post guys, it's fine.
Skip is played by Enzo. Oh, Enzo, what kind of dog?
Don't ask me questions and whatever's on the script. That's
what I say. How about another creature feature of a

(01:01:49):
killer animal hot off the back of Jaws, We had Orca.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I'm assuming this also didn't star a real animal.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
This actually did star a rail animal. I'm glad that
you asked me that question, because this was a combination
of real captive orcas. Their names were a Yaka and Nepo.
And there's also an artificial whale.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
All right, pet cemetery.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Pet cemetery, because orcas don't forget. They want vengeance. If
you're gonna kill their wife and kid, they're gonna find you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
And kill you. It's a great vengeance story.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
That's why they're called killer whales, right right. Actually, the
real reason why they're called killer whales zoeology. Are you
ready for this? Because they kill You're almost there. At
first they were called whale killers. They would kill other whales,
and over time it was flipped.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I don't know if they kill other whales, but they
killed lots of shit.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
They kill other whales as a team. Okay, they're like
the globe trot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
They're like the wolves of the sea.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
They are like the wolves of the sea because, as
we all know, killer whales not whales. They're dolphins. The
largest dolphin in the world. Yeah, they're mammals, but they
fall into the subcategory of dolphins, not whales.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Okay, glad that we got that out of the way. Seabiscuit,
Uh not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I mean, I guess it's an animal movie.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
But great performance, create a horse. I'm gonna go great performance,
not a horse.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
It is, but it's not. You're not watching that for
the horse?

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Can you tell me the name of the horse that
plays Seabiscuit? Care to guess? Jerry Popcorn Delights. You're close though?
Another horse movie? How about Secretariat?

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
I'm gonna put it right next to Sea Biscuit.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Care to guess the name of the horse that played
Secretariat in the movie?

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Uh, Susie, trolley Boy?

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Okay, trolley Boy?

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Turner and hoots.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Turn On Hooch is a great one. Turn On Hooch
is a great one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Ah, I'm gonna go great cats bey On Turner and
Great Catsby.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
We bought a zoo?

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
I have not seeing this skew No, can I break
it down to you? Put it in pet cemetery?

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Matt Damon buys a zoo, put it in pet cemetery.
And then finally, war Horse.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
War Horse, the best of all Steven Spielberg SPIELBOYG films.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
I don't know if anyone has seen this movie.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
I've only seen an snel sketch. Jimmy Fallon was the host,
and it's just everyone going, where's my war Horse?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
I don't know what to do with this one. What
do you think about this one.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
I'll put it in the pet cemetery. Good enough for me,
good enough for putting black stallion and war horse.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
No respect for the horses. Today, I'm gonna stamp homeward
bound at the top so that you can't remove it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Okay, I wasn't gone up, but that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
I just want to be final final.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
I want to if we both believe that free Willie
could be better. But it's also it's a staple.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Of ninety at the top of raise the roof.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Please say it correctly, raise the roof, roof. I feel
like Babe isn't getting enough love though, because it also
went to the Big City and its sequel.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
You moved it up to raise the roof.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
I did. I'll stamp it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Do you want a Mario Maker? Do you wanna know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
I'm you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
I think we should have maybe Mario Maker, uh, one
of just horses horse movies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
And put them all in there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Where do you want to put that?

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Above pet cemetery?

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
Okay, above pet cemetery? You want to do horses exclamation
point all right? And you want to put all of
the horse movies?

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Put all the horse movies in there?

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
All of them, all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Now, I feel great about it. I feel great about it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Is there anything else? All right? I'm pretty good with that.
I suppose I'm you know what I am gonna DJ
Please pick up the phone. I'm on the request line.
I am gonna move horses above Great Pawmance. Okay, because
the horse is that's at least a movie about a horse.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
It's true. It's in the spirit of the tier.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Right and if anything, we're all about spirit. Yeah, because
I've got spirit. How about you? Are you ready for
me to read this off now? Or do you have
more critiques?

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
No? I'm good, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Sitting at the bottom in pet cemetery, we have Grizzly Orca,
and we bought a zoo great pawformance, but not an
animal movie. Ban shoes him in a Sharon and Anchorman horses,
Sea Biscuit, Secretariat, black Stallion, and Warhorse. The Great Cats

(01:06:38):
be we have several dog movies. They're not gonna like
this one undred and one Dalmatians, My Dog Skip and
Turner and Hooch.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
To be fair, you gave us a single movie with
a cat in it that is overpowered by two other dogs.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
I'm not sure if cats have ever been in a movie, you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Just found the genre. Go you could. You're gett a
spearhead the cat genre.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Raise the hoof, Babe, Beethoven, Airbud and Free Willie and
then finally Whale of a Time, Sham Moo, homeward Bound
Martley and Me and MVP Most Valuable Primate.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
I mean, we did it again.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
We fucking did it again.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
We did it again.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
We're kind of unstoppable with tears.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Totally agree, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
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of next week. We're going to be doing a news
dump and then we'll have another episode. We've already done
our animals here, so we can't do a full episode
on that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Well, I should have mentioned this while we're talking about it.
I did catch Good Boy this week, starring Indie the Dog,
which is what you know, precipitated the conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
We were just talking about animals. You should have added
it to it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Forgot, I forgot too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I didn't good Boy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
I wouldn't say a swing and a miss, but like
maybe pull the ball foul, didn't really exactly get a hit. Okay,
I'm still alive.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Up of the plate.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
I don't know, just miss the mark. I didn't have
high expectations, but I had expectations and it didn't meet it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
So maybe that'll be involved next week. We'll see, Okay,
Tuesdays or Goosdays? I abused kangaroos, Dam Burton Bye. Please
flip the cassette over to side B to continue the adventure.
And now it's done for girls jumping on tram Papa
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