The Smashing Machine, Roofman & Leonardo DiCaprio Movie Tiers

We discuss some recent movies!

Roofman
The Smashing Machine
Good Boy


BUT FIRST - Mac rattle off Kelly Clarkson songs and Gu counts down Drew Struzan's best movie posters. The we finish the epsiode with Mac's Leonardo DiCaprio movie tiers!




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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's the thing started out friends, it was cool and yeah, yeah, yeah.
Since you been gone, that's sort of how I sing.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
All songs go about forty percent of the lyrics, many
of them wrong lyrics. You asked me last episode at
the culmination of the last episode, how many Kelly Clarkson
songs could I name? And I firmly stated sixteen, I believe,
And I also did feel like I was undershooting it,
and goo, wouldn't you know it? At least twenty one?

(00:31):
I have at least twenty one Kelly Clarkson songs that
I know. I mean, she's got so many bangers and singles,
A couple of deep cuts here. I bet it's closer
to thirty if I actually break it down, if not more,
but Kelly Clarkson songs. Here we go because of you, Stronger,
My life would suck without you. Don't you want to stay?
That's her and Jason Alden since You've been gone? Of course,
Heartbeat song, Breakaway Mine behind these Hazel Eyes, piece by piece,

(00:56):
that might be her best song already gone, A moment
like this, that's the song you want, American Idol with
catch My Breath, Misindependent, walk Away, mister know it all.
He never again dark side Love So Soft Medicine and
didn't die?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Where is from Justin to Kelly?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
You know what, I'm sure they have some original music
in that movie. I don't know or I don't recall
any of the songs. That, of course is the American
classic from two thousand and two from Justin to Kelly,
the movie they made thinking that both people would be
immensely popular following American idol, and then Justin Guarini Goo.
He became a little sweet for Dr Peppery sweet. That's

(01:35):
a that's what happened to him.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
So much sexual attention in that movie and in all
the little sweet commercials too.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yes, yes, Doctor Pepper Goo top two soda easily.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm a big DDP guy though died So good, so good,
always my number two. I'm never no, I do seek it,
but usually I'm looking for her like an orange soda.
But then I see DDP, I'm like, I'm gonna have
that DDP.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, you know I Actually we had a little family
party the other day, a little dinner, and my stepbrother
made some pulled pork used Doctor Pepper and his recipe.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Pretty good, pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
How many Justin Guarini songs.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
You know, Oh God, I don't. I don't know if
I know any Justin Guarini songs unless the little Sweet theme.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Counsel definitely counts. So he got one.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I got wack.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Terrible news this week.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Terrible, terrible news. Justin Guarini didn't win American Idol.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Clay Aiken also lost to Ruben Studdard. We'll have to
one day go through. We'll put up the runner up
and the winner. Tell me who the actual winner is.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, some seasons, like Daughtry season, I think he finished fourth.
He was the best on that season. That was the
Taylor Hicks season. I believe Taylor Hicks, Katherin McPhee and
Elliot Yah mean, I believe for the top three. Uh,
the Fantasious season. I don't remember much about that, and
then I sort of fell off. Carrie Underwood came in
the mix after the first five seasons. I don't remember much.
I was a big Ryan starfan Goo. She was a

(02:57):
cast member on season one. She was quite attractive.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I consider myself the Brian Dunkleman of this show. I've
always asked myself, how am I gonna get my dad
to watch or listen to this podcast. Yeah, let's talk
American Idol and I think he'll finally do it.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh he's an idol guy.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Oh he has loved Idol since day one, love that
since day one. Or we can just do stupid reaction videos.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Was he a big Taylor Hicks guy. I feel like
he'd be a big Taylor Hicks guy.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Taylor Hicks doing Joe Cocker song seems like write up
your dad's.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Outre no idea, Yeah, I have no idea. Mac, back
to what I was saying, terrible news rip Drew Strusan
and if you do not know the name, you know
the work. He is one of the most influential movie
poster artists of all time. Tons of work with Steven
Spielberg and George Lucas. He battled all timers at the
end of his life. He passed away at the age

(03:50):
of seventy eight. But Mac, I ask you, what is
your favorite of his work?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
So I didn't deep dive his work like you have.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
One of our listeners tweeted us that quick story about
the thing poster amazing, that that is a great story
and a great poster and it somehow perfectly encapsulates that
movie without him knowing anything about the movie.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I know nothing about the movie. They gave me a
general thought of it. I knew that it was based
off this movie from the nineteen fifties. I don't really
know exactly what's happening in it. I gave them this, Yeahhu,
how about you?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Seems like you eat You're cooking up a top ten
here for them.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, top ten. At first, I'm like Mount Rushmore not enough,
by the way, that's four faces on a rock. Yes,
we need to remind people because I feel like everyone
forgets what a Mount Rushmore is.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Sometimes and I ask you a question, Yeah, how would
you say?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
You're Drew Strusan. Yeah, and you're given the task with
promoting Mount Rushmore. Do you think you can come up
with a good poster from Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah? But I might accidentally draw too many faces on
that rock. I don't know. Sometimes you just lose track
a Goo's Juicy six pack. Maybe no, still too many
great pieces of work. We're gonna stay away from Dirty
Dozens for a while. Okay, we messed it up last week.
We lose track of numbers. It's too many numbers. It
is I want to give a shout out right now.

(05:10):
He did the artwork on the album cover of Alice
Cooper's Welcome to My Nightmare.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Okay, I don't think I know it.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's a very theatrical album. One of my favorite songs
is Steven. I say that without joking. It's very. Uh,
it's very It's a lot like Salad Fingers singing a song.
I like it. Let's get to my top ten. Drew
Strusen movie posters at number ten. I love this because

(05:40):
he's working with Kevin Smith, and I'd imagine this is
one of Kevin Smith's goals is to have Drew strus
And do one of his covers. He did Mal Rats.
I love the mal Rats cover, all the art on it.
By the way, it's a it's a photo realistic slash
kind of a fantasy style that he works with. So
he was able to get Strewsan to do this comic

(06:01):
book cover. And not only is it a comic book cover. Now,
this annoyed me when I bought the movie poster, but
it's actually elevated off the page as if it is
a booklet itself.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, that's a good one. And speaking of Kevin Smith,
and getting Drew Strusan for uh this movie. Drew Strusan
did all the posters for all of Kevin Smith's favorite movie.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
That's like a really cool thing for him.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Blade Runner, Yep, beautiful poster. The next one up here
I almost have to put on here because of how
I mean. It's a great looking poster. But I've seen
them so many times that maybe I'm just taking them
for granted. The Indiana Jones posters are great.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Always great. I like the colors in the Indiana Jones posters.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
And then off the back of the Indiana Jones posters.
This is not in the top ten, but shout out
to the Ductails the movie poster which they used similarly
the Indiana Jones influence, but Ducktails characters. I love the
look of that one. He did the special edition trilogy
of Star Wars from the mid nineties.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, what is that ninety six, ninety seven? Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
that's uh.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think that was when that's significant to you and
I because that's really when we started to intake the
Star Wars movies. That's when my dad was showing me
the Star Wars movies.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Because he didn't do the original posters. I believe he
might have done Revenge of the Jedi when they first
had that concept. No, it was called Revenge first.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Oh, you're talking to og Yeah, okay, all right, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Then me go to the thing we've already talked about
that didn't really know what was happening. He gave us
a beautiful poster. Now let's go here. Now, the next
four movies might not be the best movies, but the
movie posters sell you on the movies.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, and this is also Goo loves the nineties.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Goo loves the nineties. Hook. I don't love Hook. This
movie poster is dynamite.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's a great movie poster.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
The Flintstone Owes another movie I don't love, but he
made me think it Rocks.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Are you? Are you a Baldwin guy in the in
the Flintstones?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Acknowledge what I just said. Rocks?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh nice, because no.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's Ricks. It's Rick Moranas in the.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
First No, I'm asking if you're a Baldwin guy.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
He did do the poster for Viva Rock Vegas, so
I'm glad that you're asking me this. Return to Oz.
Now this is from the eighties. I know you said nineties, baby,
but once again another movie that like, it's a tough watch,
it's nightmare fuel this poster, You're like, I kind of
want to watch this.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I think Returned to Oz is starting to gain a bigger.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Following all those Wicked people.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, in part because of Wicked and the surrounding stuff
around the Wizard of Oz. So I wouldn't be surprised
if we have a return to the return of Oz.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Are we in a return to Oz?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Sance believe?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
So what a time to be alive. Now. Mac Strusan
did the movie posters for the original movie, he did
it for Treasure Island, he did it for Christmas Carol.
But I think his best Muppet work is The Great
Muppet Caper. There is so much happening on this poster

(09:16):
and it just has me asking who, what, where, when.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Why, which is what a poster should do.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
All the ws along with George too, Yeah, there you go.
And then finally the poster that you and I had
hanging in the gutio.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
In my living room above me.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
So we always hung smaller posters all over the gutio,
but we had two big posters. One of them is
this one. I think it's the best movie poster of
all Time, and that is Back to the Future.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, it's in the conversation. It'd be hard to argue
against it, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
So once again, ten through One, mal Rats, Blade Runner,
Indiana Jones, all of them kind of a cop out. Relax,
I'm not saying the movie. We're not doing Coppo. It's
all the Indiana Jones and Ducktails, the Star Wars Special
Edition Trilogy. I do like his work on the prequels,
but I like the Special Edition trilogy a little bit more.

(10:12):
The Thing Hook, The Flintstones, Return to Oz, The Great
Muppet Caper, and Back to the Future.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Does Duck Tails the movie make your mount rushmore of
Indiana Jones movies?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Well, yeah, god has to. It's the first three and
not even you could probably put it above last Crusade
Oho careful, Well, it's about it's two old Scottish fellas.
So one good three?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, job three, King of Queen.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Mill Street, entertain Go and I am Max and we
are the Mac and Goo program. We just killed ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
How about that credit to us? We've been what a
time that producers.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
He's going like this, He's like Phil time, Phil, Phil,
we need we get a Phil.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Today we are doing another iteration of what have you
been watching lately? This? What have you been watching? What
have you been watching? This is our one hundred and fiftieth.
I don't know. I have no idea how many of
these we've done. Are you keeping the.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Same time that I mark in the Google doc? I'm like, oh,
it's uh, what have you been watching? And then I'll
put like ten sixteen, Max like, oh, it's our one
thousand what have you been watching? No, that's the date.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Today we are discussing three October releases, three recent releases,
three movies that are still in theaters at the moment.
I've seen all three. Goo has seen one of three.
That's still a Hall of Fame average. Don't yell at him.
I would say all three of these movies do. They're
all good to a certain degree. It's just how they

(12:05):
really hit for you.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
What a stupid concept for a podcast. By the way,
I've seen all three. He's seen one of three, but
we're still going to the Hall of Fame. I think
personally that we're starting this episode with a grade at
the max of like a B minus.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Two movies came out two weeks ago, one came out
a week ago. No one is rushing to the theaters
to see any of these three movies, unfortunately, But I
do think they are movies that at year end they'll
be honorable mentioned.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Do you think they'll love Daddy Long Legs.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I don't know if they'll have Daddy Long Legs, but
they will be on like honorable mention lists at the
end of the year, so they're definitely worth discussing up. First,
go a movie that I just watched a couple of
days ago, Rman Ruffman. This is a rated R biography, crime, drama, history, music,
and romance film Goop.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Question is the star is the titular star?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Uh? Huh?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Is the his last name Rufman? Or does he work
on roofs?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
We'll get to that. Rufman had a nineteen million dollar budget.
Goose so pretty cheap. It had an eight million dollar
domestic open.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's up to eleven million worldwide before heading into its
second weekend.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I wonder how much money this is actually gonna make.
But with a nineteen million dollar budget, whoa wonder why
with a nineteen million dollar budget?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
This is a rated R once again rated OUR film
that doesn't really have the feel of a rated r film,
but I think that's part of the issue. I didn't
love it's it's it's based on a true story, Goo,
so there's some liberties at play here. But it's a
very interesting story. How loose I would say, it's like
seventy five to eighty percent accurate. It's it's mostly true. Yeah,

(13:51):
they fudged with some of the timeline and how long
some things actually go with but the core of the
story is pretty fun. The run time of one hundred
and twenty six minutes, so just over two hours on
roddy Teazgo eighty four percent from the critics, eighty six
percent from the audience, A sixty four and Metacritic, so
most people seeing this movie are enjoying it to a
certain degree. This is written by Derek Cian Franz and

(14:13):
Kurt Gunn. You would not know Kirk Gunn. It's this
his third ever credit in.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
First Gain right. No, it's g I n N.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah that's supposed to be hear you. You wouldn't know that, obviously.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I wouldn't. I thought it was like Ted Gin.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
That was just me on the fly editing. You know,
thanks for ruining the Wow role I was on.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
When I think of Ted Ginn, I think of of
a very fast runner.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, he's good, great returner, great returner. Why for a
long time he did he did play for a long time.
You wouldn't know Kirk Gunn once again. He has three credits,
and this is his first since two thousand and seven.
Derek cion Frantz. You have seen some of his stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
He's just he's he operates in a weird level of
movies here Goo Blue Valentine, which you.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
May have seen, pretty depressing, the.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Place beyond the Pie. You've seen that, also kind of depressing,
the light between oceans. I haven't seen that. That's Michael
Fassbender and Alicia vicandor So. I'm sure it's pretty good.
Sound of Metal that came out twenty nineteen. A lot
of people have seen that. And then he also did
that HBO mini series. I know this much is true
with Mark Ruffalo. That wasn't a smash success, but I
think did decently well. This is also directed by Sion Frontz,

(15:22):
who did all of those things I just mentioned. And
this is also sort of like in that realm of
It's not a blockbuster at its core, it's like it's
got a romance story at its core, which kind of
all of those?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Did? I guess?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Maybe not sound a metal but kind of synopsis of Ruffman. Also,
it's Rufe Mann, but I just like saying.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Spider Man.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Based on the unbelievable true story of Jeffrey Manchester played
by Tatum my name at JAF, an army, veteran and
struggling father who turns to robbing McDonald's restaurants by cutting
holes in their roofs, earning him the nickname roofman. Fuck.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I like that a lot, Yes, that's his m After
escaping prison, he secretly lives inside of Toys r Us
for six months, surviving undetected while planning his next move.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
But when he falls for Lee.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Played by Kirston Dunst, a divorced mom drawn to his
undeniable charm, his double life begins to unravel, setting off
a compelling and suspenseful game of cat and mouse as
his past closes in once again. Tatum plays Jeffrey Manchester.
Dunst is Lee, Wayne Scott. The Keith Stanfield plays Tatum's
best friend, Steve Juno Temple is the Keith Stanfield significant other.

(16:33):
You also have Peter Dinklage as Mitch, the manager of
the toys r Uss and then Ben Mendelssohn is all
seen in here as a pastor who your hand is raised.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Don't spoil it, but is Jesse Plemmons in this movie?

Speaker 1 (16:44):
No, Jesse Plemons, there is a like.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
So this movie is acted extremely well, and there's a
lot of really good actors in here that have like
two minutes so I don't know, they just maybe really
like the script, they really like the director, writer or whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't know what it is. But it's really well acted.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Do you think at any point that Jesse Plemons might
show up?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
It is the sort of movie that you could see
Jesse Plemons pop up.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
And of course, with dunst involve anything's possible.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Should I stop thinking that for movies that she's involved in.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
No, keep thinking that I surprise, all right.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
So this is based on the real life of Jeffrey Manchester, who,
in real life gu was robbing McDonald's that way, getting
in through roofs. However, his story I believe it was
two thousand and four to two thousand and five. He
was actually staying in an abandoned circuit city adjacent to
a toys r us and basically bored out a tunnel

(17:36):
in between the walls between the two stories, and that's
how he he was not caught in this movie. They
treat that differently because it's a little more interesting the
way they do it in this movie. But he's a
smart guy, he's a bright guy, he's a charming guy.
And the real life accounts of the people that he
robbed at McDonald's that basically just talk about like how
nice of a guy he is. Like he was robbing them,
so I guess that's threatening, but he like takes care

(17:58):
of them while he's robbing them, so it just seems
like it was a guy down in his luck, needed
some money, that sort of thing. He's still in prison
currently do still in prison. I won't ruin the end
of the movie for you, but that probably ruins it
a little and he.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Never got caught.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
But essentially this.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Movie comes down to people seek partnership a lot of
people most people and need that significant other, need that
one person in their life. And Kirson Dunce plays that
role in this movie really well. This movie is predominantly
chanting Tatum, Kerson Dunst and they're so so good in
this The problem is like the events themselves just aren't

(18:34):
that interesting. Little spree at the beginning, and then he's
hiding out for most of the movie, so it's like, yeah,
he's doing some fun stuff and the Toys r Us
and whatnot. But I honestly felt it was it had
a hard time gripping me, and I think that's just
the way it is with this story. But the acting
is really really good, and you're really rooting for Tatum,
You're really rooting for Kirsten Dunst. So I got this

(18:57):
at thirty hot Dogs. I think it's worth seeing when
it comes to home streaming. I wouldn't pay money to
see in the theaters. I think you can wait. But
pretty good movie and it is great acting. It's just
I don't know, maybe more people are gonna have more
fun with the Toys r Us stuff than that I did.
It is a little bit of a trip down memory lanes,

(19:17):
some nostalgia right mid two thousands for us.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
It's just like every aspect of this movie just feels
a little abbreviated.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
The heist stuff, the Toys r US stuff, the romance stuff,
it just feels a little abbreviated. Because honestly, in real
life it kind of was abbreviated. It wasn't that long
of a time all this stuff went on. But the
core of the story is good and the performances are great.
So thirty Hot Dogs, I got it at number twenty
one in twenty twenty five got and I've now.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Up to thirty four movies. I think thirty four.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Let me ask you this, though, is if you were
robbing McDonald's, would you be distracted by the McNuggets?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
No, but the fries would get me. If you get
some hot and fresh fries and fucked.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Okay, I'll give you the money, but first, do you
want a French fry?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I'd have one bag for the money, a second bag
for the fries, But then I gotta eat all those
fries in like seven minutes.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
But also when you first get those fries, you would
need like like a heat repelling bag to Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Need a special bag for sure.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
And I mean one of the best things in this
world goo, right, is if you get McDonald's and you're
driving home, you're eating the fries on the way home.
That's what you have to do. I couldn't imagine a
better scenario. Maybe there's a movie that does this. If not,
someone maybe Edgar Wright can work this into a movie
on an escape. You know Baby Driver too, except he's
eating fries as he's driving away. You know that's thrilling,

(20:32):
eating fries and getting away from the popo.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Give me all your money and those nuggets and some
sweet and sour sauce.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I think you. I think McDonald's might have the worst
nuggets of all the fast food I like the nuggets
and I don't mind them, but I think they're completely different.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
That's the all thing is, Like the other nuggets are
all similar. These are completely different from any other nugget
in the world.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Actually, you know what, let me take this back. They're
not a nugget, but burger k chicken fries terrible.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Those are bad.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Their nuggets pretty good, though.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I like the McDonald's nuggets. It's uh, you know, it
takes the white meat, it blends it up, it adds
some weird stuff to it.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
No, I think they're just putting pink goo into molds.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, it's delicious, pink goo.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Wendy's has the best nuggets.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Wendy's has good nuggets, but McDonald's are different. From every
other place. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Spicy nugget. I'll eat fifty of.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Them if something is unique, I like that.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Do you think you could eat fifty nuggets?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, easily.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I think I could get to forty. From thirty to
fifty is a lot. I think I would hit a
wall sometime between thirty and forty.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I'll be going to Magadita's soon to do their uh
tacoh toctob Taco Toba. There we go Taco tober Challenge.
It is a two pound taco. You're gonna eat it
in one sitting.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Easy.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, It's gonna be really easy.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Should I go with you if you want? Can you
pick the fillings? No?

Speaker 3 (21:56):
No, it's it's four different meats all put in there.
It's a bunch of different sauces. It's a bunch of meat.
So you gotta do what the challenge is.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
What is it? Pork, beef, chicken and what.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
I haven't I don't know. It's on the website somewhere. Okay,
I'll be doing that next week and then I'll be
doing the advanced one.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
You go in to Moody Street.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah, all right, because they also have one where they
put flame and hot Cheetos on top. You get a
T shirt if you do that, I want that t shirt.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, how much is this taco?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Fifteen bucks? Maybe that's worth it for the T shirt. Yeah,
and if you eat the whole thing free tacos for
a year, that can't be true. It's absolutely true.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
You get a taco every week?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Oh, one taco a week?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
That's still something. Don't sneeze at a taco every week.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
And you're still paying thirty bucks. You gotta get in
the door. You're having a couple of drinks. I would
rather four tacos a week, but then i'd have to
take three weeks off in between sittings.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
So four tacos a month.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Try and negotiate with them. See what happens. Let's move
on here, Mac to the movie that we thought was
gonna have a little bigger impact at least box office wise,
but it still might do well in a ward season.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
The next up is The Smashing Machine, which we've kind
of alluded to a couple times here over the last
couple of weeks, but now we'll actually sit down and
give you a little bit of a discussion on it.
So This is uh Benny Saftie's you know, first venture
into writing and directing on his own, separate from Josh,

(23:20):
his brother. They have been a team that has worked
together for the last decade plus whatever it is. Now
they both have movies out, and it's going to be
interesting to discuss the differences between the two. The Smashing
Machine fifty million dollar budget goup. It had a five
point eight million dollar opening weekend, which fell well short
of what they were expecting. It's only up to seventeen
million world worldwide as it hits its third weekend.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
I think it was projected twenty million at first, Like
when they first started doing up months ago, and then
leading into the weekend they were around like twelve and
a half thirteen and.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Then made twelve yeah, yeah, And now it's up to seventeen,
so this might get up to twenty five. This is
gonna lose money, however, because it will be involved in
award season, it might have a little bit of a
second life. They'll make some money better.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I'll sell some DVDs and ultimately, ultimately, even though it's
lost some money, I think it's encouraging for everyone involved,
for safty for the Rock especially the Rock and Emily Oh,
I have a.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Fun topic that I want to do soon. It's gonna
be movies that made the least amount of money at
the theater but then made the most on home release.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Napoleon Dynamite.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Napoleon Dynamite is one of them. I heard Nick swartzon
on a podcast.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
The other Demo's Boy.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
He was saying that Grandma's Boy made less than five
million at the theater and then made over one hundred
million with its vas.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
I believe it. That's the era though mid two thousands.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
He was also told by the CEO of Blockbuster that
that was the most stolen DVD they've ever dealt with.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Good with a Smashing Machine is an R rated action, biography, drama,
history and support two biographic movies right in a row
here subject boxing movie, docu drama, period drama, psychological drama.
This is a run time of one hundred and twenty
three minutes, just over two hours on roddy te's seventy
one percent from the critics, seventy six percent from the audience,

(25:12):
a sixty five on Metacritic, and I totally understand that
if you go into this expecting like this raw rah
great sports movie or this rocky level type story.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
You don't get that. No, you don't get that.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
And I think most of us were expecting that sort
of thing because a lot of people don't know Mark Kurst.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
May I say this. It subverts your expectations.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
It subverts your expectations, and to me, actually does something
better and greater than your classic sports movie.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I like what they do at the end of it.
My issue is the build up to that. I thought
it was kind of boring because his fight style is
really really boring.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, that's just what nineties mma was, right.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
But if you're gonna show me that for a half
an hour straight of the exact same action over and
over again, I'm like, let's get to the end here.
You know, he didn't say that once? What are you talking.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
About, gou once again?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
This is written directed by Benny Safti. You would know
him as the writer and director of Uncut Gems. He
was the director of Good Time Split Those with his brother.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
He was in Oppenheimer.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yep, he's He's.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Also somewhat of an accomplished actor now actually happy Gilmore too.
He's also writer creator of the series The Curse HBO
mini series with Emma Stone and Nathan Fielder upcoming, He's
writing and directing something called Lizard Music.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Who knows what the fuck that's about.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
But I think what we're seeing here Gou and his
brother Josh has a movie coming out very soon called
Marty Supreme starring Tim Shallomey. I think what we're seeing
amongst the brothers both great directors. Benny has more of
the acting talent, Josh has more of the writing talent.
Because everything I've read about Marty Supreme is it's one
of the best movies of the year and Shallo May's,

(26:56):
you know, probably gonna win Lead Actor and in part
because of Josh Shaftie's writing.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Maybe we can save this for award season so you
can sit on this for a while. You don't have
to answer right now. Who do you think wins in
a ping pong match, Marty Supreme or Forrest Gump. Don't
answer now, save your answer for January.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Okay, I'll sit on that for three months. Synopsis of
The Smashing Machine, the story of Mixed Martial Arts and
UFC champion Mark Kerr, Simple Go. This stars Dwayne the
Rock Johnson as Mark Kerr, Emily Blunt as Don Staples,
Ryan Baters, Mark Coleman, Boss Ruton as himself, Alexander Usik
as Eager above Von Chanchion. Most MMA fans will know

(27:39):
Mark Coleman and Boss Ruten. Mark Kerr was a little
bit before most MMA fans, because most MMA fans came
in the mid late two thousands and Mark Kerr was
done by then. So this is I really like that
they're telling a story of one of the earliest, most
influential MMA guys that really helped kick off this mad

(28:00):
craze that we saw in the two thousands.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
He was in it by what UFC seven Is that
what they said.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Something like that any fought in Pride as well, which
was UFC's main competitor in the late nineties and early
two thousands. But because Mark Kerr never quite achieved the
greatness of say Mark Coleman, this story just naturally goes
down a path that you're like, oh it okay sort
of thing, and that's where it really subverts your expectations.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
He's also not like this big, boisterous athlete out there,
you know, promoting himself. He's a very quiet, self contained person.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
A mild mannered, nice dude.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
That's what I like about the movie though. That's my
favorite part of this movie is how he's this mild mannered,
seemingly a very very nice person, but then when you
mix him with Dawn, they're so bad together.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Volatile.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, throughout the movie, you're trying to figure out who
you feel bad form, but then you.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Realize it changes.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
It goes back and forth the entire time. Because even
at the beginning of the movie slight spoilery here, but
like at the beginning of the movie when she starts
to cry when she's taking a photo of Mark and
the other people, I'm like, you don't need to cry
about this. Why would they want you in their photo?
So it's like you're kind of making it about yourself.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I was opposite reaction there. I'm like, oh, he's not
valuing her enough. And then when she's making his shake
and messes it up like they do it great. So
the best part of this movie is everything in between.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
The fighting exactly of this volatile, toxic love story between
Mark and Don is fucking great good.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I loved that part of the movie. If we got
more of that, I would have loved this movie. I
really liked it.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
As is, but it's almost like the sports stuff gets
in the way of like the truly great stuff in
this movie.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I would say, the sports stuff, how long is this movie?
What's just over two hours? Okay, two hours three minutes.
I think if they were able to keep the sports
stuff to a much smaller percentage of the movie and
really focused on those two and kept those two on
the screen as much as possible, because also Emily Blunt
is maybe used two sparingly in this.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
The coolest part about the sports stuff of the MMA
stuff was the way it was shot and how like
the direction there in the cinematography was great. When it
came to the MMA stuff and taking it back to
like nineteen ninety nine, this movie set between ninety seven
and oh one, I believe.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
All that stuff was great. The period piece stuff was great.
Just the sports story here, because we're not used to it,
sort of takes you for a ride you're not really wanting.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
However, when you sit back about it and you think
about the Rocks performance and where this story ends up,
I fucking loved it. Like I really liked it when
I left the theater. The more I've thought about the
Rock of this movie. He truly is great, and I
really hope he gets not what in Christopher Nolan that say?
What did Christopher Nolan say?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Christopher Nolan gave major praise to the Rock for this movie.
He says, I think it's an incredible performance. I don't
think you'll see a better performance this year or most
other years.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
And I don't think he's wrong.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Now, the movie not being that successful is gonna hurt
his chance at winning Best Actor.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
But I like, I think Leo was a smidge better.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yes, but also just for the Rock. If he just
gets nominated, that's an accomplishment.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I mean, dude, we've been talking about this Rock Dwayne
Johnson fatigue for a few years now, how he's just
playing himself and everything, and this legit is such a
legitimate switch up to greatness for him, Like we talk
about how Dave Batista's been great John senor like these
wrestlers turn actors who should be good actors because they're
doing it while they're wrestling. The Rock just has never

(31:42):
taken a chance like this, a leap like this. And
you know when when this was first announced a year
and a half two years ago, were like I don't
know if the fucking rock can pull this off, and
he really does.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
He smashes it goo huh yeah about that.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
He's more machine than anything else in this movie, which
is also great.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I don't harp on it, but the greatest part of
this movie is that depiction of a toxic love story
and how addiction seeps into every aspect of someone's life.
It affects everyone involved, your partner, your people that are
around you all the time, and then when you're dealing
with two addicts, it's even worse and you end up
with explosive situations. There's like a three to five minute

(32:22):
scene towards the end of this movie between Blunt and
Dwayne Johnson that is fucking credible, dude. The emotional aspect
of that, like you're actually on the edge of your
seat for a few Like that scene is great, and
you know what, that's the scene they're gonna show when
one or both get nominated, because it's so fucking.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
So that's a great scene. I also love the scene
in the hospital when Coleman is talking to him and
it's just a normal conversation and Kerr is like really
trying to get around of like well, this, this, and
this is like all right, so what's going on? And
the way that The Rock just like zones in right
there and loses that was the first thing in the movie.
I'm like, yeah, this is pretty legit.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, The Rock does such a good job in the
low moments of this movie and being subdued and really,
you know, from all accounts, playing Mark Kerr dude to
that point, I thought, by far the weakest part of
this movie was Ryan Bater's Mark Coleman. Now, I think,
you know, Benny Stafty really enjoyed involving these legit MMA

(33:24):
guys in this movie, and it was necessary on most accounts.
I just thought Ryan Baterer, like in the emotional moments,
it just didn't work for me.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
It didn't work.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I did love Boss Routon playing himself, though I thought
he was fucking phenomenal a couple of times where he's
he's asked to show some emotion. It's just, you know,
it's a weird viewing your first time because you're expecting
so much more different of a story and you have
a weird feeling at the end of this movie. But
The Rock is great, Emily Blunt is great, but to
your point under utilized. It should have been more her

(33:55):
less sports stuff. But I you know what, I might
actually rewatch this, just go in knowing the story and
maybe pick up on a couple different beats. But the
scenes between Blunt and Dwayn Johnson are fucking phenomenal, as
is Goo. I think I have this thirty four hot Dogs.
It's in the top ten of the year, number nine,
I have it. I think I might have had at
a dog higher initially, and that's come down a little.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Bit, but that might go back up. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
The performances between Blunt and the Rock do leave you
with a lasting impact.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
I go thirty two just because I really did find
and it's a lot of sports in this movie. I
like sports. Don't take this, but like, I think all
the sports action in this movie is quite boring. And
also the last half an hour of their tournament, the
announcer is maybe the most annoying announcer I've ever heard.

(34:46):
If I have to hear one more time that it's
life changing money, I'm gonna lose my mind. Yamo burn
this place in the ground.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I get that, I get that Goo, but.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Also, once again, the amount of times they have you
switch in your opinion on both of these characters during
the movie is outrageous.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's the magic of the movie. It's it's what makes
this movie as good as it is, even though it's not.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
It seems like he's so nice, but then he's just.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
The passive aggressive, so passive aggressive, so good, so good.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
He believes the entire time that like, I'm one hundred
percent right, Yeah, and he can't tell her exactly what
he wants at any point.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, No, it's great.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
And she's so good at being frustrated with him to
the point that it ruins her life essentially.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
And then you think like, oh, like she's the victim,
but then she also is so bad to him.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yes, it's so back around, and then the end of
his real life story it swerves you. And then I
also really like what Safty chose to do at the
end of this movie as well.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I thought that was nice, so that that helped.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
It also me this movie told us I don't know
more than a handful of times that he's six foot two,
and I'm like, the rock is like six foot six.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
No, the rock's like six three six four, The rocks.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Like seven foot three. You see Victor Wehnbinyama grew two inches.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, he's a young lad.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
I know. As soon as I saw that, I said,
slap some money down on MVP. He's in the eighth
feet by the end of the year.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, this could be the year. This could be the year.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Imagine going through a growth spurt when you're already seven
foot three.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
I could use a couple of inches in a lot
of places.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
But we can't. We've been told we're too old to grow.
We're stuck where we are. Wembley's like twenty years old,
so yeah, and we're twenty five.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I think he's twenty two.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Mac rip through Good Boy as quick as you can.
The producers giving me one of these.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Fuck you all right, third and final movie. Y'all have
the producer, not me good Boy.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
This movie also came out the same weekend as The
Smashing Machine two point three million. In its opening weekend,
GOO on a two point three million dollar budget, so
it's already made its money back. It's up to five
million worldwide as it approaches its third weekend. This was
a movie that once I saw it teased four so
five or so months ago, I was very intrigued by it.

(37:07):
This is a PG thirteen comedy horror thriller. I don't
know why comedy's throwing there. Nothing in this movie is funny,
Nothing is even intended.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Have you thought that maybe you don't have a good
sense of humor?

Speaker 1 (37:17):
That might be it? That might be it?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Goo, you're like this runtime of seventy three minutes, hour
and thirteen minutes. It's barely a movie. It's barely a movie.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Is there a rule?

Speaker 1 (37:27):
There's eighty minutes? To me, always felt like the cutoff, right.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
But eighty minutes? Is that before or after credits? Can
you buff it out?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Good Good Boy? Eighty nine percent from the critics, eighty
three percent from the audience, a seventy three on Metacritic.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
And I know why the critics are really liking this.
I'll get to that in a second.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
This is written by Alex Cannon and Bed ben Lienberg.
They have done nothing, really but shorts, so you don't
know any of their shit. Directed by Ben Leenberg. The
synopsis Scoop, a loyal dog moves to a rural family
home with his owner, only to discover supernatural forces lurking
in the shadows. As dark entities threaten his human companion,

(38:05):
the brave Pop must fight to protect the one he
loves most. This movie is.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
A horror thriller movie from a dog's perspective, and that
is an incredibly interesting concept.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
The POV is from the dog. You barely see human
faces in this movie. You see like waist chest because
you're seeing it from a dog's perspective. So it's a
swing here. He takes a swing and for the critics
see he hit a double maybe, you know, obviously not
a home run. But it's a really interesting concept. So
knowing that, I.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Think it's very intriguing going into it. This movie stars
Indie the Dog. The dog is great. Do I don't
know my you know, we talked about this a week
or two ago. Animal actors, it's haired to compare it
because this is a movie. I don't think an animal's
ever really acted. But India Dog is great. Also, Shane
Jensen is Todd, that's the owner. Ariel Friedman and as Vera.

(39:01):
Larry President as Grandpa. You just see like home videos
of him and Stuart Ruden as Richard. So the premise
of this movie is Todd. You know, Indie's owner moves
to the countryside to his Grandpa as abandoned home, and
the abandoned home is very spooky, but something has happened
in Todd's life, which is why he's moved there. And
you know, anyone that's ever owned a dog loves dogs.

(39:22):
You know that dogs, dogs are man's best friend and
all they want to do is hang out with you,
love you, look out for you, and in the face. Yes,
So this movie takes that idea and frames its concept
through that. What this movie is really about is human
mental health, and it's framed through the viewpoint of Indie,

(39:42):
the dog, you know, viewing his owner slipping into this
like despair, depression, and his health, both mental and physical,
gets worse and worse, and so it really preys on
that help was feeling humans can have, but obviously this
dog has while you're watching someone slowly declined. So it
uses these like forces, these you know, ghosts or whatever

(40:05):
that the dog is seeing as like a you know
thematically demons that the human is battling, and so the
dog can like pick up on this. So I mean,
I'm maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but I don't think there
really are demons in this movie. It's just what the
human is going through and so I know why the

(40:26):
critics are really liking this movie. However, for me, it
didn't really land, like I get what it was trying
to go for it, but I wasn't scared. Ever, there
is some fun scenes where the dog gets scared, runs
under you know, a bed and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
It just wasn't scared to me. You know, I get
what it's going for. It's a unique movie, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
It's a unique experience viewing experience. I just like, I
was like, oh, all right, I get it. It's solid,
you know. I just I don't think it's really warranting
the reviews it's getting.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
But it's not.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
No one's really saying it's the best movie of the year.
But a seventy three on Meta Critic Night, three percent,
that's really It's up there with a lot of movies.
So I don't think you need to see this anytime soon.
But it's quick and it's a unique experience. So when
it's streaming for free, you should should check it out.
I got it at twenty seven Hot Dogs. You know,
to me, it was like just fine, I think it
could have done. Like to me, I get what it's

(41:19):
going for and there is a great version of this movie.
I just think this movie didn't get there. But because
it's unique and it's maybe the first venture into this
sort of framing of a story, people are really liking it.
So catch it when it's free.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Three questions. Yeah, number one, where would you tear it?
Is it a whale of a time raising the proof
great cats be horse and around? Uh that's sary.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
That's tough to say because I already forget what I
teared in those tears. If someone loves this movie, I
wouldn't push back against it. But I also think it
just like it did things like baseline, well, but it
didn't like crush anything.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
I don't know. It's quick, oh seventy three minutes. It's
hard to be upset with it, you.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Know, Weskit on the fence. Second question is does the
dog talk at any point?

Speaker 1 (42:07):
No? No.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Speaking from the movie the Dog, they get the dog
to do some impressive things in the movie, like that part.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Whoever's in charge of the dog did a great job.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
And then third question, does the dog consider calling hunters
at any point?

Speaker 1 (42:19):
No?

Speaker 3 (42:20):
No, that did not happen because that would have saved
the day pretty quick, right, and they could have started
as saying, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I mean, there's a lot of downtime in this movie
because it's like a severely depressed person or a person
going through some substance abuse who's like going through it,
and the dog's watching the human go through it helplessly.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
So it's like praying upon a certain thing.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
There's gonna be certain people that really identify with this
movie somehow, you know, even though it's through a dog's perspective,
But there will be people, and those people might love
it a lot more than me.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Let's get into Max Sack, and Max Sack could be anything.
It could be a boat.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Mac.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
You brought this up a couple of weeks ago. Ask
and you shall receive. Let's get to tiering of Leonardo
DiCaprio movies. Ooh, okay, keep in mind we don't have
that much time, so rap it fire, put it in
the tier. You do get stamps, you get stamp removers,

(43:23):
you can veto, you can Mario make, you can call
the DJ to pick up the phone. You have a request.
Shall I give you the tears?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, read me the tears?

Speaker 3 (43:33):
The tears for this tier? I suppose the what if
you want to call it here we have at the bottom.
Excuse my ignorance. I don't know this movie.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Oh okay. I was gonna say, what is that in
reference to? But now I get it.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
You can it is in reference to. If I say
a movie, you don't know what it is. Just excuse
my ignorance.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Roger the next one up here is no nobility in poverty?

Speaker 1 (43:55):
What is this reference to?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
You think it's bad? It's from Wolf of Wall Street? Okay,
all right, I'm sorry. If you look at your wall
right now, it's all Jordan Balford quotes up and down.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I have'm tattooed on my back.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Yeah, don't act like you're above it.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Listen. I like Wolf of Wall Street way more than
you do.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Then we go to He's good. Movie's okay, So you
think that it's a great performance, but the movie's lacking
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
There's quite a few of those.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Second to the top is Drew Brees, the man who
finished four times as the runner up as the MVP
in the National Football League never won an MVP.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
YEP, completely against Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, a host of
other fellas Major and Peterson won one in his time frame. Yeah,
Drew Brees was very good.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
The movies that are, you know, just outside of the top.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
I get it, just a bit outside. Do you ever
hear of that Bob? Youucker? And then finally at the
top King of the World.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I'm like, is he here that might end up there
just because of.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
A titty I was label it's something else the top one.
I'm like, no, let's let's not be crass. Two weeks
in a row, all right, Mac the first one up here.
These are in alphabetical order. From twenty oh four The Aviator.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Ah, he's good. Movie's okay.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
The Basketball Diaries.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Oh, Basketball Diaries is a good movie. I like it
more than The Aviator.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
We'll go Drew Brees, Max's Not Afraid to Think Outside
the Bun from two thousand, The Yeah, two thousand.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
The Beach, Uh, no nobility in poverty here, No thank
you on the.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Beach from twenty oh six. Blood Diamond, Oh, Blood.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Diamond is Drew Brees. Blood Diamonds Drew Brees.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
You know, it's not Leo's best movie, but Jamon Hansu
is great in that movie.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
From the Great Year twenty oh eight, Body of.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Lies, Body Lies, I have not seen so Excuse my ignorance.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
From nineteen ninety three This Boy's.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Life, Excuse my ignorance.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Thank you, Steve Harvey from twenty oh two, with a
ninety six percent on right teas not to tip your
hand or force you into anything. Catch Me if you can.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
I think Tom Hanks is fucking terrible in this movie.
I think I love this movie. I'm gonna go King
of the World for Catch Me if you can.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
You gotter have?

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I think Tom Hanks legit gives you the worst Boston
accent I've ever fucking heard Kyle Hanratty. But Leo's so
good in this and it's a great story, even though
most of it's fake, but great movie.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
I don't plan on stepping on you for most of this.
I'm gonna let you do your thing. This is a
tier that you wanted. If you had put it anywhere else,
I would have vetoed you fair enough. Let's move on
to from nineteen ninety eight Celebrity. Excuse my ignorance, And
you wanted to do this tier? You haven't seen any
of his movies.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
You haven't seen those three movies either.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
This isn't my tier Critters three.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Okay, excuse me, my ignorance. You haven't seen that either.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I've definitely seen critics three. Its a zero percent on
roddy Teas.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
How old was in this movie?

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Let's see, it's from nineteen ninety three, so that but no,
I'm sorry, nineteen ninety one, so that would be right
in the time of his growing pains, actually just before
growing pains. I personally love this movie.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Do you Yeah, he was born in seventy four, he
was seventeen.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
So I'm gonna I'll say, no nobility in poverty because.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Oh, all right, you just you just use one air moves.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Oh well, yeah, I'm not gonna waste to move. I'm sorry, no,
I am I'll waste to move there, all right.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
There's so much wrong with this movie. Leo's great in it. Though,
Leo's great, so i'll put it smacked out in the middle.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
He's good. Movie's okay.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Django unchained.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Personally, I hate the movie, but I get some people
Django King of the World, and he's fucking phenomenal in it.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
That movie is so good, so good, and say what
you want about it. Maybe being drawn out a little
bit at the end, I don't know, there's a little bit, Yeah,
I love all three of our main characters.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
It's the first time we saw Leo play like a
really bad dude.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
But the thing is that that they flipped the script.
He's the bad guy. Christoph Waltz is the good guy.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Were never in yet.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, it's because most most film watchers, viewers, theater goers.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Obviously Jamie Fox is great too, by the way, but yes,
go ahead, and.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Only seen Christoph Waltz in Inglorious Bastards.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
And Pretty Bad Guy in that he's great at it
and everyone knew Leo's a good guy, and that movie
flips it in such fantastic fashion.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Oh, tier idea moving forward? Maybe next week our tier
for Octeerber for next week. Movies where people dressed like
Austin Powers. Okay, I have four movies so far that
I'm gonna right, that's on the list. Yep, it's Austin
Powers one, two, three in Django. We'll cross that bridge

(48:45):
next week when we come to it. From twenty oh one,
don's plumb excuse my, don't look up twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
He's great in it. The movie's fine. Put it in
the middle.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
The Great Gatsby.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Ah, you know.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
He's to me he's like just okay in it, and
the movie's not that good.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Ah. I might put no nobility and poverty on this one.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Goo right next to critters three.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
The movie was pretty disappointing.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
It's disappointing. It's not bad, it's disappointing.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Yeah, considering the stars and the story, it's very disappointing.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Gangs of nyack.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I don't really like this movie, but he's great in it,
so smack dab in the middle, he's good.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Movie's okay.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Have you heard of Inception?

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Inception might be the greatest movie of all time? Goo
put at the top of King of the World.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
How about Jay Edgar from twenty eleven.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
I actually haven't seen this. Have you seen this one?

Speaker 3 (49:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, so I guess.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Killers of the Flower Moon.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
This is a tough one because I definitely like this
movie more than like everyone on the planet.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
But it's not it's not elite. I'll go Drew Brees
on this.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
The Man in the Iron Mask, he's good.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Movie's okay.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Once upon a time in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
It's got to be in the top. King of the World,
and he's fucking he's so fun in that movie.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
They're all so good in this movie. Yeah, all the
main actors, all the supporting actors, the story. Uh, maybe
the most satisfactor ending of all time.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yes, so fucking satisfying.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Like Brad Pitt's character is one of our favorite characters
of all time. But Leo might be better than him
in the movie. It's just not as memorable.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Right right, I mean the scene he as with the
little girl is fucking so amazing. It's so good, one
battle after another. Yeah, clearly King of the World. I
wouldn't put it above an inception, but it's up there.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I mean, you can move these around after if you
really want to, sure, because I'll let you do a
screenshot and you can share this on social media and
you can see this is how I feel about Leo movies.
And then everyone will say, uh, you haven't seen uh,
Don's You've been seen Don's plumb kind of heart. Yeah,
it's delicious. The quirk, I'm so sorry, the quick d

(51:00):
the Dead.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
I have not seen this either. Excuse excuse my ignorance.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Ignorance. By the way, the other Billy D made this.
So if you have an issue with you being so ignorant,
talk to him. Okay, If anything he's making you sound
and look ignorant revolutionary road.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
I haven't seen this one that yeah, sorry sorry, put
that one, folcus uh. I think this.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Movie is incredibly overrated. Obviously, he's good in it. Put
in the Middle.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Oh even he won an Academy Award for that he did.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
I don't think the movie's that good though, Romeo and
Juliet sort of the same, sort of the same. Put it.
He's good movies.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Okay, Shutter Island.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I don't love Shutter Island the way some people do,
but it's still really fucking good.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Put Drew Brees on Shutter Island.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Have you ever heard of Titanic?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
This is an interesting one because I love this movie
because I was like eight years old when I saw it.
Rewatch she this movie. It's like, it's fucking three and
a half hours. It's a lot, It's it's what I
would like to hear your your two sets on Titanic.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
I think it's a very good movie.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
We'll go Drew Brees on Drew Brees.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Now, let me ask you this. If this was a
tearing of Kathy Bates movies, would it be at the
top of her movies?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
She's so mean, she is so good I wanted to
use the C word good.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
I didn't you know what we might do Kathy baits
next week.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
That's not a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Water Boy, Yep, it's the Devil, Misery, Misery. That's three
movies right there about Schmidt.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
She's kind of the devil in all three of those.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Matt Locke a couple episodes of the Office.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, the Office season seven.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I hated their storyline. I hated their storyline so much.
I loved Gabe though.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Gabe's great.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
That might be one that might be a thing too,
of like best character is added to a show when
it's bad.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah, I don't know. That's really finite amount of characters.
But Gabe's up there in the commy.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Gabe is good. Maybe at one point he's rest as
Austin Powers and we can put him on the other
list too. Speaking of Gee's Totally Eclips nineteen ninety.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Five, I thought you were gonna go, what it's eating
Gilbert Grape here?

Speaker 3 (53:23):
No, not yet.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I haven't seen Total Eclips Ignorant.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
So ignorant, Gilbert Grape.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I really like Gilbert great. Is it a good movie?
I don't know. I don't know. Let's put it in
the middle tier Goo.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
And then finally a movie that gets a lot of hate,
The Wolf of Wall Street.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
To me, this like defines Drew Brees. I understand all
of the criticisms of this movie. However, I enjoyed the
shit out of it. And there's some truly great performances
in it. Burenthal's great, Jonah Hill's great, fucking Margot, Robbie come.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
On March, Bob Kristin Miliatti.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah right, the og Wife. I just think it's a
tier below of the elite stuff.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
All right, Max, So before we get to reading off
these tiers, I am gonna ask you, is there anything
that we have to move?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I just want to order the top five there, goot,
put Inception number one, put one bettal after another, two,
Put Once upon a Time in Hollywood, three, Django, four,
Catch Me if you Can.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Five.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
So, now, while I semi agree with you on this,
Catch Me if you Can might be my favorite Leo movie.
Really yeah, he is great. He's so good, he's so charming.
I was gonna do a category of just charming, but
he's charming and everything.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
So, but do you not agree that Tom Hanks kind
of sucks in it?

Speaker 3 (54:37):
But Leo is so good in it, and Amy Adams.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
She has braces in it, and then she takes them off.
She smiles. It's nice, all right? So can you read
what these bottom ones are? It's way too small for me.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
No, I cannot.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Excuse max ignorance on a couple movies.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight Leo movies
I haven't seen.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
One of them is Don's, one is Celebrity, one is
Jay Edgar, one is.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Something about Lies.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
He's really young. At one point, let's move on to
the category or the tearing of no nobility in poverty,
The Beach Critters three and The Great Gatsby.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Yeah, all right, I like that. I like that clump
of movies.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
He's good. Movie's okay. Aviator Departed, Don't Look Up? Butterfly Effect,
but that no one that looks like butterfly effect? Right, poster?

Speaker 1 (55:36):
What is it? Uh? Don't get me started on the
butterfly Effect?

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Director, Gangs of New York Man in the Iron Mask,
The Revenants, Romeo and Juliet Gilbert Grape.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
You folks didn't think you were tuning into a podcast
today where Don't Look Up was gonna be in the
same category as that departed in The Revenant or Butterfly Effect.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Amy smart, How about it.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Let's go on to the second best category. Can never
win MVP, but finished second a bunch and might not
have won the Super Bowl if not for that on
site's kick. If it was the new NFL rules not
winning that Super.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Bowl, Yep, Tracy Porter picked six sealed it.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
He had those tattoos like the raised skin. He'd be
GB's on that talking about Drew Brees, I am talking
about Drew Brees Breese, Basketball Diaries, Blood Diamond, Killers of
the Flower, Moon, Shutter Island, Titanic, and The Wolf of
Wall Street. Bang love it and Max's top tier.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Mac.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Can you give me your top five? Leonardo DiCaprio movies?
All you consider The King of the World.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
From five to one?

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Cash me if you can django Once upon a Time
in Hollywood, one battle after another and a number one
of course inception.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Now do I have some regrets about this? Tears? Yeah,
but pickt and stick it. Maybe Basketball Diaries is too high,
maybe the part is too low.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
You could have moved all these things.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Nope, pick and stick it.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Reactions All right, Mac, we did it again. We nailed
another tear. Good work.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Ain't no tears up to cry.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
No motzious.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I thought you were gonna say, no more, mister, nice guy, No.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
More, mister. We did talk about Alice Cooper earlier, but
I'm I'm more into his is you know, crazy theatrical
alem Alice Cooper? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Nice, look at that tied it back.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
We always start and end the episodes with Alice Cooper.
Alice Cooper famously started a hot dog place in Las
Vegas or in Arizona with Randy Johnson. It's called the
Big Unit. They sell big hot dogs. I think it
might be out of business now.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
I mean, if you're gonna get a bad.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Business model, it's a bad business mode.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
If you're gonna go for wieners, go for big ones.
You know who's got an underrated dog? Goo?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I say underrated dick, because.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Well, Papa Gino's great wiener, Papa Gino's toasted bun, great wiener,
foot long, Papa Gino's dog where it's at.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
I'm still try to get our Papagino sponsorship. Maybe we
add the to the big Mac and Goo meal deal.
It's the pepperoni pie, cheese pie buffalo chicken strips and
hot dogs forty hot dogs.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Well, we're still gonna need the the the Centniment's six six,
the breadt breads or cinnamons.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
You know what. We just love.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
We need a Popagino sponsorship. There's only like seven left.
We need one of the seven should sponsor us.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
I'm not gonna I once again, I love Papaginos. I'm
not gonna apologize for it. I'm not gonna tiptoe around
it and not gonna be like, well it's good. No,
I love Papa Gino's and I will do whatever for them.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
How many Papa Gino's locations are left? There are seventy
nine Papagino's locations as of August twenty twenty five, primarily
concentrated in the New England states of Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire,
and Rhode Island. Massachusetts has the nine highest number of
locations with sixty three. We have sixty three chances at
a Papagino sponsorship.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Go individual locations are not going to reach out to us.
It'd be like it'd be the daddy Papa Ginos. It'd
be the Papa papah Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Probably tell you what though, don't bring up Papa d
in my face though, don't you dare. The closest location
I think is Walfam. I want to say Papa Gino's.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I would also do a sponsorship, not for money, but
if they put a brick wall in my house and
just put that old logo on the wall, I would
do it for that.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Papa Gino's near me four point one miles Walfam, eight
miles Deadham nine point three Dorchester, uh Ide Park, Natick, Burlington.
I was one of Burlington Sudbury Stoneham sagas. Next time
you visit, you're in lass gets a Papa Ginos.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
The root one. Yeah, it's still open there you go.
The only issue is that no one else my family
will eat it.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
They used to have h these like mozzarella twists too.
I remember those things. They were like they almost look
like a curly fry, but mozzarella.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
They got nice meatballs too.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Fucking love them. You know what?

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Okay, the mac and doo meal deal moving forward, it's
everything on the menu in a box price TBD.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Yeah, well we'll give you like a twenty percent discount
because you're ordering everything. No drink included.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Though, b Yob all right, Mac, where can the folks
find us?

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
You can find us on x and Instagram, at mac
and goog podcast that's I'm a fucking off.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Well that's because you're thinking about Papa Gino's. I know
it's close to dinner. You want some pie? I get it?

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Teapupic dot com March check us out at the top
of next week for a news dump. We have to
talk about who is gonna be the voice of the
cowardly Lion. Who's it gonna be?

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
So John M.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Chew, the director of Wicked for Good, the second Wicked movie.
I have a weird feeling it's gonna be like lin Manuel.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Can I put my hand up and tell you who
I think it's gonna be? Who if we can bet
on it? M hmm, it's gonna be James Cordon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
No because lin he directed In the Heights, which was
the adaptation of Lin Manuel's Broadway stage play, and obviously
Linn Manuel loves Broadway. Wicked massively successful Broadway film. I
think it's gonna be Lynn Manuel Miranda.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Okay, so little friendly bet here. Okay, Maybe there's a
Papa Gino's pie going back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
And if it's anyone else, uh, Billy Dio's as a pie. No,
we owe Billy dea pie. How about that? That makes
more sense. But the two Billy D's gotta split it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
No, here it is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
If it's James Cordon, I get the pie.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
If it is Lynn Manuel Miranda, you get the pie.
If it is Clark, the first Billy d gets the pie, okay,
and then if it is Wayne Knight, the second Billy
d gets the pie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Feel it's like a little four square. Imagine that four
square on the fucking playground.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Hey, I'd like to play four square.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Four square is a great game with those four and
like I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Mean, you going back, if we could maybe a little
acl injury in there, but not much movement, not much.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Have you started playing? Uh, pickleball.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
I haven't, I haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
I know that was one of your dreams a couple
of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Now it's cold, so now there's limited.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
There's indoor pickleball places all over the place. There's one
in Natick.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
I've looked it up. It's like reservation only, and they're
always fucking booked.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
It's pretty nice in there. I've been in there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
I think i'd be really good at pickleball.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
You're really good at stupid games.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Really good stupid games. I have short area quickness, fucking
right up my alley.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Now, pickle ball is a smaller tennis court, correct.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Much smaller.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Yeah, you could probably do it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
You'll probably get hurt though, because you're soft. Come on, gotcha.
Tuesdays are goosdays. I have used kangaroos, tamburton.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Bye.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue
the adventure. And now it's time for girls jumping on
trambopa leines