October 15, 2025 • 36 mins
U.S. Representative Seth Moulton made the announcement that he is challenging Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey for his Senate seat in the 2026 primary. In Moulton’s announcement video, he addressed Sen. Markey’s age saying, “it’s time for a new generation of leadership for Democrats and for America.” Do you agree with Moulton and think it’s time for new ideas and new leadership? What are you looking for in a candidate?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm w BZ Coostin's new radio.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
All right, well, I enjoyed that last hour. I'm not
a big coffee officionado, but I enjoy talking with George Howell.
And I hope if you drop into one of his
locations that he identified for us, you will be able
to tell him you heard him on the radio in WBZ.
So we might have made a friend last hour, which
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is always good. So I'll tell you who didn't make
a friend today, Seth Moulten, I think probably lost a
friend in Ed Markey. This is an interesting race. This
is an interesting race, and you know this is politics.
One oh one. You have Seth Moulton, who's been in
Congress now for about ten years, maybe a little longer,
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forty six years of age, a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan,
Harvard graduate, who is going to take a shot at
a US senator. Now. Very rarely do US senators lose,
as Joe Kennedy found out when he decided to run
against Ed Markey. Markey was elected to Congress in nineteen
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seventy six. He succeeded then the late Torbert McDonald, who
had been a contemporary of President Kennedy and McDonald died,
and so Marky was first elected to Congress in nineteen
seventy six, close pretty close to fifty years ago. Before that,
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he was up at the legislature, and he positioned himself
as the ultimate outsider. We've had Ed Markey on the
show on many occasions, who have had Seth Moulton on
the show on many occasions, and we hope that probably
as this race develops, to have both of them on.
As I've said to Ed Markey on many occasions, he is,
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without a doubt, my favorite United States Senator from Massachusetts,
although a reminder of the bar is kind of low.
It's between him and Elizabeth Warren. So Marky wins that.
Seth Molten is someone who's been on this show, and
we've done programs with him both in studio, over the phone,
and indeed remotely up at Endicott College when we were
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doing our Talk the Vote series. So it's a fascinating race.
Mark he's been in Congress now for well forty eight years.
I guess forty nine years if you want to count.
He was able to He was elected in November of
nineteen seventy six. And he immediately filled the seat. It
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was a special election as well as a regular election.
He emerged from a field of about ten candidates in September,
and I think he had twenty one or twenty two
percent of the vote, but with the Democratic nomination, he
was elected. I stood next to him in Washington as
a young television reporter the day that he was sworn
into Congress by the Speaker of the House, who proceeded
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Tip O'Neil. Tip O'Neil had served as the Speaker of
the House from nineteen seventy seven until nineteen eighty seven,
and before him was a guy named Carl Albert, who
I think actually came from a town called bug Tussle, Oklahoma,
if my memory serves. Albert walked into the room and
I feared from home, and he's going to try to
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swear me in because Markey and I were fairly close
in age. I'm much younger, actually younger, but I looked
at Albert, the speaker, who was looking at me, and
I pointed at Mark. You know, he's the guy that
swear in. I never forget that day. Interesting. We had
dinner the night before, so I've known ed Markey a
long time. He and I don't agree on politics all
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the time, but he has evolved and he has become
a real leader of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.
Seth Moulton is also a progressive Democrat. I mean, you
don't elect conservative Democrats in Massachusetts. He got himself in
some trouble last spring when he talked about his concern
about transgender males participating in high school sports. He has
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two young daughters, very beautiful little girls, who you saw
if you've seen the Moulten announcement. We have the Moulten announcement.
We have neither Market nor Molten tonight, and I thought
it probably would be best to give you an opportunity
to weigh in in the race, whether you're a Democrat
or not. We have the Moulten announcement was put together obviously.
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If this has been in the works now for several weeks,
if not a couple of two or three months, and
the process is interesting. In the process, if you're an
incumbent congressman and you decide you're going to try to
step up, I would say step up to the Senate.
Because there's four hundred and thirty five members of Congress
and there's only one hundred members of the Senate. It's
considered the world's most exclusive club. One hundred members two
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for me each state, fifty states times two is one hundred.
And unlike the House, where there there is you know,
literally it can be it can be like mud wrestling
at times in the House because there's so many people
and there was such a wide swath of individuals on
both sides. Each side has there some you know, characters.
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Let's put it like that. Okay, we'll be kind. But
Moulton is a is a respected member of the Democrats
in the House and is respected by Republicans as well. Obviously,
his service in the military mark He's been in the
Senate now for since twenty fourteen, and so this will
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be his just trying to figure he was elected. He was.
He was elected to succeed Paul Kirk, who had filled
Ted Kennedy's seat. He won in twenty fourteen. Then he
faced Joe Kennedy in twenty twenty, which was an anomaly
of a year. It was a COVID year. Many people,
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including myself, thought that Markey probably would have stepped aside
at that point, but he didn't. Particularly facing a popular
young congressman and Joe Kennedy and Marquie prevailed, and now
he's facing a kind of a similar situation. He is
six years older. That age is going to be an issue.
Let me play a little bit of the Moulten announcement,
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and I'm interested in hearing from you, whatever your background,
whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or more likely an independent.
The vast majority of voters in Massachusetts think is now
about sixty two sixty three percent are registered as unenrolled
of what would you would think of as independence. So
this is the first thing that Moulton has to do
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is he has to establish amongst Democrats a reason to
run and a reason to replace an incumbent United States Senator. Now,
whoever wins this primary, whether it's Seth Moulton Marquee, will
be elected to the Senate. There's no Republican that I
know of in Massachusetts that has a prayer of being
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elected to the United States Senate. Now maybe I don't know,
maybe there's some Republican who will emerge, but as of tonight,
there are three gubernatorial candidates who potentially could be elected.
Massachusetts does have a history of electing Republicans to the
corner office, to the governor's office. But this is Seth
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Moulton's statement. And again, this was a statement that he
must have worked on for weeks. He must have made
this decision. And one of my first questions I'm going
to ask Seth Moulton is when did you make that decision?
And what forced you over the line to making that decision.
I don't know what he'll say, but let's go to
cut twenty A. This is Seth Moulton basically indicting not
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only at Marquie, but the entire Democratic Senate and the
Democratic Party for that matter, for not fighting hard enough.
Cut twenty eight rough.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
My toughest battle was in a cemetery in Iraq. But
out of respect for everyone who does heroic things every
day without medals or commendations, I don't like to tell
war stories. I'm Seth Moulton, and instead of talking about
my battles, I want to talk about ours, the battles
we're all.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Seeing right now.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Let's talk about how hard people are working just to
stay afloat, and how unaffordable everything has become. Let's talk
about our need for universal health care and how Republicans
would rather shut down the government than lower health care costs.
Let's talk about our children and the future that will
be left for them if we don't protect our democracy
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and tackle climate change. But we also have to talk
about the things we don't want to like how Democrats
have failed to stop Donald Trump's harmful racist agenda.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Our party has clung to.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
The status quo, insisted on using the same old playbook,
and isn't fighting hard enough.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I would call Seth Moulten out on one statement there.
The Republicans don't want to shut down the government. It's
the Republicans in the House who voted overwhelmingly to have
a continuing resolution to keep the government open for seven weeks.
It would not be closed if the Senate had concurred
in that continuing resolution. It is all the Republicans of
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the Senate except for Rand Paul along with two or
three Democrats, including John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, who are voting
to reopen the government to keep the government open. So
that that is a mischaracterization. Now it will work for
Seth Moulten, but it's not the Republicans that want to
shut the government down. The Republicans are opposed to some
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of the certainly of Obamacare and aspects of that. They
want to debate that, So we'll get to that a
little later, But let me go to Seth Moulten says
that Ed Marky's a good man, but his time has passed.
Cut twenty b rob.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
The next generation.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
We'll keep paying the cost if we don't change course.
This isn't a fight we can put off for another
six years. The future we all believe in is on
the line. We're in a crisis, and with everything we
learned last election, I just don't believe Senator Markie should
be running for another six year term at eighty years old.
Even More, I don't think someone who's been in Congress
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for half a century is the right person to meet
this moment and win the future. Senator Marky's a good man,
but it's time for a new generation of leadership. And
that's why I'm running for US.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Seven echoes of John Kennedy. There, folks, echoes of John Kennedy.
Remember Seth Moulton did run for at least briefly, for president.
He was looking at the Democratic nomination in twenty twenty four,
and he was in the race briefly before he stepped away,
he was the I think it was twenty twenty four,
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if it could have been as early as twenty twenty Actually,
I got to go back and double check on that.
I will, I promise I don't want to be incorrect
either way on that. But so that's the beginning of
the pitch from Seth Moulten. Democrats are not fighting hard enough. Uh,
and although Ed Markey is a good guy, he's too old.
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It's time for a new generation of leadership. Okay. I
want to know from you. Uh does this appeal to you?
And if you are, I don't care what you are
put your You can either call me as as a
Republican Democrat or independent, identify yourself or not, or you
can call in is a political strategist. Do you think
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Seth Moulton has a chance six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty.
Ed Markey has a record loyal Democrat. The other question
is that some suggestion that Aana Presley might decide to
get in the race as well and try to uh
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go to the to the left of both of them. Uh,
this might be a really fine election year. Twenty twenty
six six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six
one seven, nine three one, ten thirty. If you are
a Molten or Marquie partisan, this is the opportunity to
uh to stand up and be counted. We're taking all calls,
all comers. Coming back on night Side, we will talk
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about this at least for this hour, I hope, and
maybe even until midnight. Coming back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well, I want to get to my callers here, which
is most important, and I'd like to get to as
many of you as possible. And I see some familiar
faces and I see some different faces. The only lines
open six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty.
It is a seismic race here in Massachusetts, Moulton versus Marky.
Let me go to Bill. Now. Bill, I know you're
a Republican. I know that you probably are hoping they
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both will lose. But that won't appen.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
No, that's not going to happen. I'll tell you if
we could get like a real viable I'm talking like
somebody that would be like a Tom Brady on the
Republican side. After these two clowns beat themselves up and
we ran actually a good campaign, put some money into it.
I mean, but the lay of the state now, Dan,
and just the way it's really becoming the poll office
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of the eighty percent of the country. It's you know,
but let me.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Ask you this, Why would someone like Tom Brady or
anyone of that caliber decide to run in Massachusetts? This
is an overwhelmingly democratic state, Scott. The election of Scott
Brown in twenty ten was an election that was held
in January. It was a lower voter turnout, It was
an anomaly. And yeah, for the first time since Ed
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Brook we had a Republican We've had Republican governors, but
never a Republican senator. So give me your analysis. You're
objective here, you don't particul you're not a stand of Yeah,
what do you think will happen?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, I mean, if Presley gets into it, I don't
think Molten makes it. She'll be the next senator because
it will be the first. You know, the squad and
the people that turn out in the primaries as well
as you know, Dan is not a great sample of me.
The electorate, I mean, the electorate here is definitely liberal,
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but I mean they're you know, borderline liberal socialist types.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Okay, so your money's on markeee right.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
No, I think it's well, I think Malton has a
fifty chance of Pressley stays out of It's a fifty
to fifty if he can really sell the people and
Markey comes across as the elder guy, or he makes
a mistake like you know what I mean, and Molten
does have an organization. Okay, Yeah, and he's a sit
in congressman. I think it's a fifty to fifty. Presslegue
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gets in, it's all over. But I will go down
to the Democratic primary, pull a ballot if it's if
if it's Monkey, Presley, Presly, and uh. And in Moulton,
it's okay. If there's three of them in there, I'll
go down and I'll pull a Democratic primary. I'll ballot
for Moulten.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Okay, Well, see I thought that you might. I thought
you being a Republican. And if I'm wrong here character
you can correct me. Yeah, I assume that. Look, if
Presley gets in, she could win with forty percent of
the vote.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
There are a lot of people could look at Adam
Presley and say, hey, she's very liberal. She's as liberal,
maybe even more than Marky at her core, and that
they would vote she she she would have a clear
road if she won the nomination to become Senator pres Leolle.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, Yeah, that's why I thought that you.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I thought I thought that you would be tempted to
go in and vote for Presley.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
No, no, yeah, but you know what, Dan, you can't,
I mean, get enough of these guys. You're gonna have
that guy in New York that's going to destroy the state,
you know, and you know.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And the Republicans are the Republicans are rooting for mindami.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, but you gonna be can't wear your root for
you know what I mean. You know, if it happens,
it happens. But I don't want to be part of it.
You know, if the city's going to burn down, I
don't want to be the guy with the gasoline, you know, Okay, enough, yeah,
you know, you know, and and and you know what,
I might just disagree with my fellow citizens and stuff.
You know, I don't know whether they don't really understand.
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I just you know, the bad things or the things
that are probably gonna happen or whatever. I just you know,
I want to sleep at night.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know I wasn't part of it.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know, I hear you, I hear you. Well, keep
calling nightside has always Bill. I enjoy your calls. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Thatunds great, Yeah, Bud, A great night.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, this is one truly all points of view. More
than welcome here. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, six, one, seven, nine,
three thirty. You got to take a quick break for
the news. At the bottom of the hour. We'll be
right back.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Side with Dan Ray on w b Z, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Let's get to the call. It's gonna go to Susan
and Cambridge. Susan, I'm so glad you called in. I'm
very interested in your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Oh, thank you. So. I like Seth well enough, but
I feel like, uh, for a while now, you know,
since uh going back to when he was and he
kind of opposed Nancy Pelosi running for speaker again, he's
been on this tack of like, you know, we need
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new leadership, new younger leadership and everything, a new generation.
But the problem is is that I haven't really seen
him distinguish himself as a congressman in that capacity. You know,
he's he's a perfectly surfers for serviceable Democrat. But I just, uh,
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you're damning him with.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You're damning him with faint praise here, Susan, but keep going.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
No, I am unfortunately unfortunately. I mean I would vote again.
I would vote for him against you know, probably you know,
most Republicans, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You know, but I don't think as a Republican that
you let me ask you if it was Joe Kennedy
taking his shot, if it was if let's move forward
six years and said of Seth Multen, was Joe Kennedy?
Would that matter to you? Or no?
Speaker 6 (18:35):
What are you saying?
Speaker 5 (18:36):
If?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
In other words, if let's say this was Joe Kennedy.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Mark He's out of the picture.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, right, no, no, no, no, no. If Marky's let's
say Marky is now approaching eighty uh and he's running
for reelection and instead of Seth Molten stepping up, is
it if it was Joe Kennedy who said, you know,
I'm going to take another shot, and I might I
think that the circumstances in twenty twenty were just difficult,
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and I'm so it was. I'm trying to figure out
whether it's you like Ed Markey Moore or you like
Seth Moulten less. So I want to take Seth Milton out. Uh.
As we're doing law school, you change facts a little bit.
So now I want to go for.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I feel like like Malton is trying to base his
campaign on you know, the other guy is eighty. The
other guy has been in there for you know however long.
I'm like, okay, but what about you? What do you
have to offer? What's new about you?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well, he's forty six years old, he's let me. Let
me try to take Moulton's argument. He's forty six years old.
He's a combat enterant. Did I think it was for
tour tours in Iraq? Harvard graduate? Pretty smart guy, he's uh,
you know, Pelosi led the Democrats. I think down the drain.
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I don't think Nancy Pelosi in her later years was
a great representative. I think that they should have gotten
rid of Pelosi, and they eventually did. Did we just
lose Susan? Susan called back here. I don't know what
happened to your phone. I hope you my question didn't
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overwhelm you. Susan called back. We lost two lines there, Rob,
we lost both the seven eight one lines, folks, tricee
six one seven nine three one six one seven nine boy,
I hope we haven't lost those two lines. So what
I was doing with Susan was I was trying to
figure out whether it was just Seth Molten she didn't like,
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or if she really liked Marky. Susan called back, Okay,
I did not cut you off. If that's Susan calling back,
we'll put it right on here. And in the second
we we have Susan and Milton, and we also have Paul.
So which one is SuSaNi? Okay, great, thanks, Thanks, let
me get back to Susan. Susan, we did not cut
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you off there. I'm sure you know that both there
were two callers on the seven eight one on the
nine six one seven ninety one line. Go ahead. I
was asking you if it was Joe Kennedy versus Markie,
and take take Seth Bolton out of the equation, would
just still be with Markey.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Probably probably because he did a good job of vanquishing
Kennedy last time around. I mean, there is some concern, yes,
about age, like there's no you know and he is
you know several years older now, so but I feel like,
I mean, honestly, I'd be more interested in someone like
Jake Auchenklos Like, I think he's doing some interesting thinking
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to lead the Democrats in a new way that I
don't see. Seth. He's been at it for ten years.
I mean, you know he's trying to say, oh, you know, Mark,
he's been in Congress for forever. Well, he's been there
ten years and he wants the promotion, and I'm sort
of like, but why what are you.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Going to do? That's when Jack Kennedy was in Congress.
He was in Congress for six years. Uh, and then
he got a promotion to the Senate. So if somebody
gets into the House for one term, then you're saying, hey,
wait a second, hold on here, that's okay. Will you
will you upset if you want to talk about leading
the Democrats in a new election. Moulton made his comments
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earlier this year about transgender men competing against girls in
high school, and he said that he was concerned that
his girls, his daughter.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Oh, I understood the concern. I felt like he was
very inartful in how he articulated it.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
So by setting a new path in that direction. That
was one issue.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I just don't think that's one issue. I'm talking more
of like a general sort of ideology. And like I said,
I think Jake Akikoss is an interesting sort of deeper thinker,
and that interests me more than Seth. I think Seth
is kind of trying to ride on it his his bio,
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in his service, and and I just I just don't
feel like that's enough anymore. You know, if he really
wants to be a new voice, then he you know,
I want him to talk about his record and distinguish
it from Markis and how is how is he going
to be better? Not just say, I mean strategically, probably
a wiser idea to just keep hammering on the you know,
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Marky's eighty, that would that probably will work.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Well.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, let me ask you this. Okay, I know and
you know you and I are friends, but you and
I kind of see the world a little differently in
most on a lot of issues. But one issue that
maybe you would agree with me on is that this administration,
the Trump administration, which I know a lot of people
are upset with. There's a lot of younger people in
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positions of leadership within this administration. Now again you can
you can criticize all of them. But you have the
Homeland Security director and Christy Nome, a young woman.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
You have Henkseeth, the Secretary of War formerly Secretary of Defense,
a young guy Princeton, Harvard. You know, some pretty good
combat veteran there. There's a bunch of young people in
the Republican Party which energized the Republican Party. The Democrats,
how do you feel about Chuck Schumer? Is he the
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guy that should be leaving?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
I mean there's still there. Most people are guys on
both sides.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Well, but what you said, we have we have. We
have Ed Markey and Elizabeth Warren together. I think they're there.
Their ages are pretty close to one hundred and fifty
five hundred and fifty six years of age. They probably
as a tandem, are the two oldest members that that
represents any state in America possibly, you know. And and
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the Democrats. Look, you know that I have my concerns
about Democrats, but you have a lot of young Democrats
in the state who who aren't who aren't getting any oxygen.
Lori Trehan, I love Lori Trehan.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
If she's running, I might vote for her.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, that's why why do you think I mentioned her? Okay,
you have the Richie Nils and the and the Jim
mcgoverns of the world who represented who represent I think
the Democratic Party of twenty years ago. But there's there's
an Auchincloss is a good example of someone, you know,
combat a veteran. I'm not sure if he's a combat veteran,
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he's a he's a veteran Moulton.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
This kind of contemporary sparking class might actually be a
little younger, but like anything else, at some point a
party Massachusetts has some really good young Democrats. You have
a political bench here in Massachusetts that the Republicans would love,
and yet we bring people in the Democratic Party allows
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warrant Tom in from Oklahoma, Presley comes in from Chicago,
Captain Clark, which.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
You're doing your thing, You're doing your towny thing, which
is somebody else to you know, have been born and
raised here. And no, no, no, I'm not at all.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
There are people like Brownsburger who are very liberal. They're
almost dying on the vine in the Senate. It's what
I'm saying is you have this progression and normally all
of a sudden. Massachusetts probably is one of the most
democratic states in the Union. I think you'd agree with
me on that, right, Okay, And yet people end up
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wilting on the Democratic bench here in Massachusetts because you
have people coming in and very quickly taking the most
significant seat. Seth Moulton now basically is trying to say, hey, look,
I'm a young guy, I'm a Democrat, I got a family,
I'm a good candidate, I'm writing most of the issues
here I am, and someone like yourself, Susan, who's a
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young Democrat as well, You're kind of saying, I'm going
to stick with the eighty year old guy. I think
it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I think there's a lot of people like you well.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But I'm not sticking with him because you know, I
just again, I just need best to step up and
say and say more for himself on his own beal.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Well, I don't know. Age is a pretty well pretty
important factor. I mean, look at UH he mentions in
his UH in his presentation today. You know, Ruth Bader
Ginsburg stayed on the US Supreme Court maybe a little
too long.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
UH.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That allowed the Democrats UH to in effect lose a
seat in the US Supreme Court. He referenced that in.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
His Uh yeah, I'm not a big fan of people
who do that, so that's another strike against him.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Well then that what what the Democrat you do is
stay in their office and never leave.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
And no, no, like you say, we have a good bench.
It's just I don't think for me one i'd vote
for LORI I vote for Jake. There was a time
when I would have supported Aana in a primary. Now
I'm thinking I probably wouldn't. But there's other people in
the States.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
If Iana Pressley got in, she would not attract your vote.
If if Laurie Trahan get in, she would attract your vote.
What's the difference did both two young female members of cars.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Honestly, Iana has gone a little bit too far left
for me.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Okay, Okay, Susan, I love your calls. You know that
I got to run here. I'm so glad you called back.
Call more often.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Okay, I'll be curious to hear other opinions.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Absolutely, That's what I'm doing tonight. I'm just trying to
have fun with people. Okay. Thanks as ally, Susan, love
your calls. Thanks for being such a loyal nightside listener.
Thanks thanks very much. Okay, thanks Susan. Hey, good night.
We'll take a quick break. Coming right back here on
night Side. We got another Susan coming up. On the
other side. I got Paul and west Roxbury, Susan and Milton,
Paul and Westford. Susan's and Paul's a wild here one
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line at six one seven two thirty one line and
six one seven nine one ten thirty. I'm just having
fun with this. All of a sudden, we lost someone
was coming. We lost two people are dropping off like flyers. Susan,
you stay right there, folks, join the conversation. I gotta
give people a chance to express themselves. If you if
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you want to be on for thirty seconds, this is
probably not the show to call, Okay, particularly if you're
someone like Susan from Cambridge's a really good caller. Join
the conversation. MARKI and Moulton, you tell me. Coming back
on Nightside, It's night Side.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
With Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Hey, damn Donny Bezy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY Boston's
news radio doc We Go, Let Me Go, Susan. Thanks
for holding on. Your patience has been rewarded. Welcome, Susan.
How are you?
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Oh great, Hi Dan, how are you?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I'm doing great. Little perplexed why people hold for five
or six minutes and then they drop off. Thank you
for staying with us here. I want to give people
a chance to express themselves. Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I actually was just string across word.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I'm not a cross.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I actually do a cross to puzzle. I'm actually doing
a puzzle puzzle while I was waiting on home. So
the thing is that I probably am not as well
versed as you would want me to be. I used
to be, but I've I'm independent, but I lean to
the left, and I am I've just been really disappointed
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in both parties and even local statewide. So I've not
I'm not as well versed as I used to be
because I I've been really turned off. But my main point,
I guess, probably disagreeing with the other Susan, what I
wanted to call about is I don't think anybody eighty
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years old should be running for any kind of a seats.
I think the cutoff age should be, and you probably
can disagree with me, is sixty five. I don't think anybody.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Look you have an opinion, well you know I am
not going to disagree with any opinion. I want to
hear what people have to think. If you tell me
that you think the moon is made of green cheese
or blue cheese, I will tell you I think you're wrong.
But no, this is what this is about. Because if
age is a factor here, you there'll be a lot
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of people who will voted this race and they will
come down for whatever different reasons. What do you think
of Ed Markey would be the first question.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
I'm disappointed in Ed Markey because and I'm disappointed, and
I'm also and I'm surprised that I would say this
in Elizabeth Warren because I'm almost seventy and I'm a nurse.
But I'm not doing like, for instance, staff nursing. I
know those days are over for me. I'm doing research.
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So the job I had when I bring this up,
I even Milton. I could walk to work on this
every other weekend. I did nurse case management at at
Carnee Hospital that I grew up in. Milton was a
wonderful hospital and when I worked here in the eighties,
it was a good hospital. When I worked there in
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twenty twenty one, it was a disaster. I stayed there
for three years, and I kept hearing Markey and Warren
a the hospital is not going to close. And I'm
saying to myself, have you been in here? Have you
seen the place? And then and then and everything's going
to We're going to get Dolatry who used to be
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a cardiologist, a cardiac surgeon. By the way, he's going
to go to jail. Okay, So none of those things happened.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
And when I brought by the way just to cover ourselves,
he hasn't been convicted of anything yet. So that's that again,
is your opinion? So just still.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
No, no, I asked, I asked somebody, and I asked that.
I asked somebody an important position, and they said, no,
nothing's going to happened to him. At this point, I
guess it's in the Senate and under a Trump, nothing's
going to happen. But it brings me back to the
point where that's when I got really turned off by
every This is the deep days of tip on nail,
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you know, Ted Kennedy. It's not those days if no
one is doing anything. But that kind of gets me
off the subject. My main point in calling is if
you're eighty years old. You're too old to be. You
can do other things. You can teach, you can do
other things. I'm not saying throw on the towel, but
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you're too old again. I need to cut off age
to run.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
By the way on Carnee Hospital. I don't know this
for a fact, So this is my opinion. I will
bet you Ed Markey at least visited Carnee Hospital. He
does have a presence. I don't know that Elizabeth Warren
could find Carnee Hospital with a rhoda yes, okay, I don't.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Know if Marky I may. I mean, you know, he
may have come for a photo off one of the day. Again,
I worked every other weekend.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Obviously, neither one of them exercised there. It wasn't saved.
You're right, I mean the whole.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Start, the whole Stuart debacle, the whole say that, and.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
It occurred on their watch. And that's something that that
Molten should be should be talking about if he's smart.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So we'll say yeah, yeah, so I would.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I would, and Selene I have to get more involved
in Here's what I would ask of you, Susan.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'm running out of time, but here's what we're going
to talk about. This periodically in the next few months.
I would like you to call periodically and tell me
how you which way you're going, because you know what
you are. You're going to be a weather vane voter.
Whoever you vote for in the end will win this
race because you're that voter doesn't have your mind. You know,
the Marquis Partisans, the Molten Partisans, doesn't matter. They'll vote
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for their guy.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
And there are no gals in the race, so I
can say their guy okay, but you will be the
deciding voter. Whoever you vote for in this Democratic primary
will win that nomination. Susan A lucky call that. Thank
you so much for being a loyal listener. Tonight's side.
Talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
I am always like to since you Jan, thank you
talk soon, Okay.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Good night. When we come back, I would like to
continue to talk about this, but that will be up
to you. If you want to fill up these lines,
we can talk about it. You want to talk some
part takes six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
six one seven nine three one ten thirty. If not,
maybe we'll ask you your favorite color. Coming back on
that side,
It's Night Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm w BZ Coostin's new radio.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
All right, well, I enjoyed that last hour. I'm not
a big coffee officionado, but I enjoy talking with George Howell.
And I hope if you drop into one of his
locations that he identified for us, you will be able
to tell him you heard him on the radio in WBZ.
So we might have made a friend last hour, which
(00:26):
is always good. So I'll tell you who didn't make
a friend today, Seth Moulten, I think probably lost a
friend in Ed Markey. This is an interesting race. This
is an interesting race, and you know this is politics.
One oh one. You have Seth Moulton, who's been in
Congress now for about ten years, maybe a little longer,
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forty six years of age, a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan,
Harvard graduate, who is going to take a shot at
a US senator. Now. Very rarely do US senators lose,
as Joe Kennedy found out when he decided to run
against Ed Markey. Markey was elected to Congress in nineteen
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seventy six. He succeeded then the late Torbert McDonald, who
had been a contemporary of President Kennedy and McDonald died,
and so Marky was first elected to Congress in nineteen
seventy six, close pretty close to fifty years ago. Before that,
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he was up at the legislature, and he positioned himself
as the ultimate outsider. We've had Ed Markey on the
show on many occasions, who have had Seth Moulton on
the show on many occasions, and we hope that probably
as this race develops, to have both of them on.
As I've said to Ed Markey on many occasions, he is,
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without a doubt, my favorite United States Senator from Massachusetts,
although a reminder of the bar is kind of low.
It's between him and Elizabeth Warren. So Marky wins that.
Seth Molten is someone who's been on this show, and
we've done programs with him both in studio, over the phone,
and indeed remotely up at Endicott College when we were
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doing our Talk the Vote series. So it's a fascinating race.
Mark he's been in Congress now for well forty eight years.
I guess forty nine years if you want to count.
He was able to He was elected in November of
nineteen seventy six. And he immediately filled the seat. It
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was a special election as well as a regular election.
He emerged from a field of about ten candidates in September,
and I think he had twenty one or twenty two
percent of the vote, but with the Democratic nomination, he
was elected. I stood next to him in Washington as
a young television reporter the day that he was sworn
into Congress by the Speaker of the House, who proceeded
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Tip O'Neil. Tip O'Neil had served as the Speaker of
the House from nineteen seventy seven until nineteen eighty seven,
and before him was a guy named Carl Albert, who
I think actually came from a town called bug Tussle, Oklahoma,
if my memory serves. Albert walked into the room and
I feared from home, and he's going to try to
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swear me in because Markey and I were fairly close
in age. I'm much younger, actually younger, but I looked
at Albert, the speaker, who was looking at me, and
I pointed at Mark. You know, he's the guy that
swear in. I never forget that day. Interesting. We had
dinner the night before, so I've known ed Markey a
long time. He and I don't agree on politics all
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the time, but he has evolved and he has become
a real leader of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.
Seth Moulton is also a progressive Democrat. I mean, you
don't elect conservative Democrats in Massachusetts. He got himself in
some trouble last spring when he talked about his concern
about transgender males participating in high school sports. He has
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two young daughters, very beautiful little girls, who you saw
if you've seen the Moulten announcement. We have the Moulten announcement.
We have neither Market nor Molten tonight, and I thought
it probably would be best to give you an opportunity
to weigh in in the race, whether you're a Democrat
or not. We have the Moulten announcement was put together obviously.
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If this has been in the works now for several weeks,
if not a couple of two or three months, and
the process is interesting. In the process, if you're an
incumbent congressman and you decide you're going to try to
step up, I would say step up to the Senate.
Because there's four hundred and thirty five members of Congress
and there's only one hundred members of the Senate. It's
considered the world's most exclusive club. One hundred members two
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for me each state, fifty states times two is one hundred.
And unlike the House, where there there is you know,
literally it can be it can be like mud wrestling
at times in the House because there's so many people
and there was such a wide swath of individuals on
both sides. Each side has there some you know, characters.
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Let's put it like that. Okay, we'll be kind. But
Moulton is a is a respected member of the Democrats
in the House and is respected by Republicans as well. Obviously,
his service in the military mark He's been in the
Senate now for since twenty fourteen, and so this will
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be his just trying to figure he was elected. He was.
He was elected to succeed Paul Kirk, who had filled
Ted Kennedy's seat. He won in twenty fourteen. Then he
faced Joe Kennedy in twenty twenty, which was an anomaly
of a year. It was a COVID year. Many people,
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including myself, thought that Markey probably would have stepped aside
at that point, but he didn't. Particularly facing a popular
young congressman and Joe Kennedy and Marquie prevailed, and now
he's facing a kind of a similar situation. He is
six years older. That age is going to be an issue.
Let me play a little bit of the Moulten announcement,
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and I'm interested in hearing from you, whatever your background,
whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or more likely an independent.
The vast majority of voters in Massachusetts think is now
about sixty two sixty three percent are registered as unenrolled
of what would you would think of as independence. So
this is the first thing that Moulton has to do
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is he has to establish amongst Democrats a reason to
run and a reason to replace an incumbent United States Senator. Now,
whoever wins this primary, whether it's Seth Moulton Marquee, will
be elected to the Senate. There's no Republican that I
know of in Massachusetts that has a prayer of being
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elected to the United States Senate. Now maybe I don't know,
maybe there's some Republican who will emerge, but as of tonight,
there are three gubernatorial candidates who potentially could be elected.
Massachusetts does have a history of electing Republicans to the
corner office, to the governor's office. But this is Seth
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Moulton's statement. And again, this was a statement that he
must have worked on for weeks. He must have made
this decision. And one of my first questions I'm going
to ask Seth Moulton is when did you make that decision?
And what forced you over the line to making that decision.
I don't know what he'll say, but let's go to
cut twenty A. This is Seth Moulton basically indicting not
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only at Marquie, but the entire Democratic Senate and the
Democratic Party for that matter, for not fighting hard enough.
Cut twenty eight rough.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
My toughest battle was in a cemetery in Iraq. But
out of respect for everyone who does heroic things every
day without medals or commendations, I don't like to tell
war stories. I'm Seth Moulton, and instead of talking about
my battles, I want to talk about ours, the battles
we're all.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Seeing right now.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Let's talk about how hard people are working just to
stay afloat, and how unaffordable everything has become. Let's talk
about our need for universal health care and how Republicans
would rather shut down the government than lower health care costs.
Let's talk about our children and the future that will
be left for them if we don't protect our democracy
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and tackle climate change. But we also have to talk
about the things we don't want to like how Democrats
have failed to stop Donald Trump's harmful racist agenda.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Our party has clung to.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
The status quo, insisted on using the same old playbook,
and isn't fighting hard enough.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I would call Seth Moulten out on one statement there.
The Republicans don't want to shut down the government. It's
the Republicans in the House who voted overwhelmingly to have
a continuing resolution to keep the government open for seven weeks.
It would not be closed if the Senate had concurred
in that continuing resolution. It is all the Republicans of
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the Senate except for Rand Paul along with two or
three Democrats, including John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, who are voting
to reopen the government to keep the government open. So
that that is a mischaracterization. Now it will work for
Seth Moulten, but it's not the Republicans that want to
shut the government down. The Republicans are opposed to some
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of the certainly of Obamacare and aspects of that. They
want to debate that, So we'll get to that a
little later, But let me go to Seth Moulten says
that Ed Marky's a good man, but his time has passed.
Cut twenty b rob.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
The next generation.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
We'll keep paying the cost if we don't change course.
This isn't a fight we can put off for another
six years. The future we all believe in is on
the line. We're in a crisis, and with everything we
learned last election, I just don't believe Senator Markie should
be running for another six year term at eighty years old.
Even More, I don't think someone who's been in Congress
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for half a century is the right person to meet
this moment and win the future. Senator Marky's a good man,
but it's time for a new generation of leadership. And
that's why I'm running for US.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Seven echoes of John Kennedy. There, folks, echoes of John Kennedy.
Remember Seth Moulton did run for at least briefly, for president.
He was looking at the Democratic nomination in twenty twenty four,
and he was in the race briefly before he stepped away,
he was the I think it was twenty twenty four,
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if it could have been as early as twenty twenty Actually,
I got to go back and double check on that.
I will, I promise I don't want to be incorrect
either way on that. But so that's the beginning of
the pitch from Seth Moulten. Democrats are not fighting hard enough. Uh,
and although Ed Markey is a good guy, he's too old.
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It's time for a new generation of leadership. Okay. I
want to know from you. Uh does this appeal to you?
And if you are, I don't care what you are
put your You can either call me as as a
Republican Democrat or independent, identify yourself or not, or you
can call in is a political strategist. Do you think
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Seth Moulton has a chance six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty.
Ed Markey has a record loyal Democrat. The other question
is that some suggestion that Aana Presley might decide to
get in the race as well and try to uh
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go to the to the left of both of them. Uh,
this might be a really fine election year. Twenty twenty
six six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six
one seven, nine three one, ten thirty. If you are
a Molten or Marquie partisan, this is the opportunity to
uh to stand up and be counted. We're taking all calls,
all comers. Coming back on night Side, we will talk
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about this at least for this hour, I hope, and
maybe even until midnight. Coming back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well, I want to get to my callers here, which
is most important, and I'd like to get to as
many of you as possible. And I see some familiar
faces and I see some different faces. The only lines
open six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty.
It is a seismic race here in Massachusetts, Moulton versus Marky.
Let me go to Bill. Now. Bill, I know you're
a Republican. I know that you probably are hoping they
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both will lose. But that won't appen.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
No, that's not going to happen. I'll tell you if
we could get like a real viable I'm talking like
somebody that would be like a Tom Brady on the
Republican side. After these two clowns beat themselves up and
we ran actually a good campaign, put some money into it.
I mean, but the lay of the state now, Dan,
and just the way it's really becoming the poll office
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of the eighty percent of the country. It's you know,
but let me.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Ask you this, Why would someone like Tom Brady or
anyone of that caliber decide to run in Massachusetts? This
is an overwhelmingly democratic state, Scott. The election of Scott
Brown in twenty ten was an election that was held
in January. It was a lower voter turnout, It was
an anomaly. And yeah, for the first time since Ed
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Brook we had a Republican We've had Republican governors, but
never a Republican senator. So give me your analysis. You're
objective here, you don't particul you're not a stand of Yeah,
what do you think will happen?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, I mean, if Presley gets into it, I don't
think Molten makes it. She'll be the next senator because
it will be the first. You know, the squad and
the people that turn out in the primaries as well
as you know, Dan is not a great sample of me.
The electorate, I mean, the electorate here is definitely liberal,
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but I mean they're you know, borderline liberal socialist types.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Okay, so your money's on markeee right.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
No, I think it's well, I think Malton has a
fifty chance of Pressley stays out of It's a fifty
to fifty if he can really sell the people and
Markey comes across as the elder guy, or he makes
a mistake like you know what I mean, and Molten
does have an organization. Okay, Yeah, and he's a sit
in congressman. I think it's a fifty to fifty. Presslegue
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gets in, it's all over. But I will go down
to the Democratic primary, pull a ballot if it's if
if it's Monkey, Presley, Presly, and uh. And in Moulton,
it's okay. If there's three of them in there, I'll
go down and I'll pull a Democratic primary. I'll ballot
for Moulten.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Okay, Well, see I thought that you might. I thought
you being a Republican. And if I'm wrong here character
you can correct me. Yeah, I assume that. Look, if
Presley gets in, she could win with forty percent of
the vote.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
There are a lot of people could look at Adam
Presley and say, hey, she's very liberal. She's as liberal,
maybe even more than Marky at her core, and that
they would vote she she she would have a clear
road if she won the nomination to become Senator pres Leolle.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, Yeah, that's why I thought that you.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I thought I thought that you would be tempted to
go in and vote for Presley.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
No, no, yeah, but you know what, Dan, you can't,
I mean, get enough of these guys. You're gonna have
that guy in New York that's going to destroy the state,
you know, and you know.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And the Republicans are the Republicans are rooting for mindami.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, but you gonna be can't wear your root for
you know what I mean. You know, if it happens,
it happens. But I don't want to be part of it.
You know, if the city's going to burn down, I
don't want to be the guy with the gasoline, you know, Okay, enough, yeah,
you know, you know, and and and you know what,
I might just disagree with my fellow citizens and stuff.
You know, I don't know whether they don't really understand.
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I just you know, the bad things or the things
that are probably gonna happen or whatever. I just you know,
I want to sleep at night.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know I wasn't part of it.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know, I hear you, I hear you. Well, keep
calling nightside has always Bill. I enjoy your calls. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Thatunds great, Yeah, Bud, A great night.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, this is one truly all points of view. More
than welcome here. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, six, one, seven, nine,
three thirty. You got to take a quick break for
the news. At the bottom of the hour. We'll be
right back.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Side with Dan Ray on w b Z, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Let's get to the call. It's gonna go to Susan
and Cambridge. Susan, I'm so glad you called in. I'm
very interested in your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Oh, thank you. So. I like Seth well enough, but
I feel like, uh, for a while now, you know,
since uh going back to when he was and he
kind of opposed Nancy Pelosi running for speaker again, he's
been on this tack of like, you know, we need
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new leadership, new younger leadership and everything, a new generation.
But the problem is is that I haven't really seen
him distinguish himself as a congressman in that capacity. You know,
he's he's a perfectly surfers for serviceable Democrat. But I just, uh,
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you're damning him with.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You're damning him with faint praise here, Susan, but keep going.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
No, I am unfortunately unfortunately. I mean I would vote again.
I would vote for him against you know, probably you know,
most Republicans, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You know, but I don't think as a Republican that
you let me ask you if it was Joe Kennedy
taking his shot, if it was if let's move forward
six years and said of Seth Multen, was Joe Kennedy?
Would that matter to you? Or no?
Speaker 6 (18:35):
What are you saying?
Speaker 5 (18:36):
If?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
In other words, if let's say this was Joe Kennedy.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Mark He's out of the picture.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, right, no, no, no, no, no. If Marky's let's
say Marky is now approaching eighty uh and he's running
for reelection and instead of Seth Molten stepping up, is
it if it was Joe Kennedy who said, you know,
I'm going to take another shot, and I might I
think that the circumstances in twenty twenty were just difficult,
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and I'm so it was. I'm trying to figure out
whether it's you like Ed Markey Moore or you like
Seth Moulten less. So I want to take Seth Milton out. Uh.
As we're doing law school, you change facts a little bit.
So now I want to go for.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I feel like like Malton is trying to base his
campaign on you know, the other guy is eighty. The
other guy has been in there for you know however long.
I'm like, okay, but what about you? What do you
have to offer? What's new about you?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well, he's forty six years old, he's let me. Let
me try to take Moulton's argument. He's forty six years old.
He's a combat enterant. Did I think it was for
tour tours in Iraq? Harvard graduate? Pretty smart guy, he's uh,
you know, Pelosi led the Democrats. I think down the drain.
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I don't think Nancy Pelosi in her later years was
a great representative. I think that they should have gotten
rid of Pelosi, and they eventually did. Did we just
lose Susan? Susan called back here. I don't know what
happened to your phone. I hope you my question didn't
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overwhelm you. Susan called back. We lost two lines there, Rob,
we lost both the seven eight one lines, folks, tricee
six one seven nine three one six one seven nine boy,
I hope we haven't lost those two lines. So what
I was doing with Susan was I was trying to
figure out whether it was just Seth Molten she didn't like,
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or if she really liked Marky. Susan called back, Okay,
I did not cut you off. If that's Susan calling back,
we'll put it right on here. And in the second
we we have Susan and Milton, and we also have Paul.
So which one is SuSaNi? Okay, great, thanks, Thanks, let
me get back to Susan. Susan, we did not cut
(20:58):
you off there. I'm sure you know that both there
were two callers on the seven eight one on the
nine six one seven ninety one line. Go ahead. I
was asking you if it was Joe Kennedy versus Markie,
and take take Seth Bolton out of the equation, would
just still be with Markey.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Probably probably because he did a good job of vanquishing
Kennedy last time around. I mean, there is some concern, yes,
about age, like there's no you know and he is
you know several years older now, so but I feel like,
I mean, honestly, I'd be more interested in someone like
Jake Auchenklos Like, I think he's doing some interesting thinking
(21:40):
to lead the Democrats in a new way that I
don't see. Seth. He's been at it for ten years.
I mean, you know he's trying to say, oh, you know, Mark,
he's been in Congress for forever. Well, he's been there
ten years and he wants the promotion, and I'm sort
of like, but why what are you.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Going to do? That's when Jack Kennedy was in Congress.
He was in Congress for six years. Uh, and then
he got a promotion to the Senate. So if somebody
gets into the House for one term, then you're saying, hey,
wait a second, hold on here, that's okay. Will you
will you upset if you want to talk about leading
the Democrats in a new election. Moulton made his comments
(22:17):
earlier this year about transgender men competing against girls in
high school, and he said that he was concerned that
his girls, his daughter.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Oh, I understood the concern. I felt like he was
very inartful in how he articulated it.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
So by setting a new path in that direction. That
was one issue.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I just don't think that's one issue. I'm talking more
of like a general sort of ideology. And like I said,
I think Jake Akikoss is an interesting sort of deeper thinker,
and that interests me more than Seth. I think Seth
is kind of trying to ride on it his his bio,
(23:00):
in his service, and and I just I just don't
feel like that's enough anymore. You know, if he really
wants to be a new voice, then he you know,
I want him to talk about his record and distinguish
it from Markis and how is how is he going
to be better? Not just say, I mean strategically, probably
a wiser idea to just keep hammering on the you know,
(23:22):
Marky's eighty, that would that probably will work.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Well.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, let me ask you this. Okay, I know and
you know you and I are friends, but you and
I kind of see the world a little differently in
most on a lot of issues. But one issue that
maybe you would agree with me on is that this administration,
the Trump administration, which I know a lot of people
are upset with. There's a lot of younger people in
(23:49):
positions of leadership within this administration. Now again you can
you can criticize all of them. But you have the
Homeland Security director and Christy Nome, a young woman.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
You have Henkseeth, the Secretary of War formerly Secretary of Defense,
a young guy Princeton, Harvard. You know, some pretty good
combat veteran there. There's a bunch of young people in
the Republican Party which energized the Republican Party. The Democrats,
how do you feel about Chuck Schumer? Is he the
(24:21):
guy that should be leaving?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
I mean there's still there. Most people are guys on
both sides.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Well, but what you said, we have we have. We
have Ed Markey and Elizabeth Warren together. I think they're there.
Their ages are pretty close to one hundred and fifty
five hundred and fifty six years of age. They probably
as a tandem, are the two oldest members that that
represents any state in America possibly, you know. And and
(24:53):
the Democrats. Look, you know that I have my concerns
about Democrats, but you have a lot of young Democrats
in the state who who aren't who aren't getting any oxygen.
Lori Trehan, I love Lori Trehan.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
If she's running, I might vote for her.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, that's why why do you think I mentioned her? Okay,
you have the Richie Nils and the and the Jim
mcgoverns of the world who represented who represent I think
the Democratic Party of twenty years ago. But there's there's
an Auchincloss is a good example of someone, you know,
combat a veteran. I'm not sure if he's a combat veteran,
(25:30):
he's a he's a veteran Moulton.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
This kind of contemporary sparking class might actually be a
little younger, but like anything else, at some point a
party Massachusetts has some really good young Democrats. You have
a political bench here in Massachusetts that the Republicans would love,
and yet we bring people in the Democratic Party allows
(25:59):
warrant Tom in from Oklahoma, Presley comes in from Chicago,
Captain Clark, which.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
You're doing your thing, You're doing your towny thing, which
is somebody else to you know, have been born and
raised here. And no, no, no, I'm not at all.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
There are people like Brownsburger who are very liberal. They're
almost dying on the vine in the Senate. It's what
I'm saying is you have this progression and normally all
of a sudden. Massachusetts probably is one of the most
democratic states in the Union. I think you'd agree with
me on that, right, Okay, And yet people end up
(26:39):
wilting on the Democratic bench here in Massachusetts because you
have people coming in and very quickly taking the most
significant seat. Seth Moulton now basically is trying to say, hey, look,
I'm a young guy, I'm a Democrat, I got a family,
I'm a good candidate, I'm writing most of the issues
here I am, and someone like yourself, Susan, who's a
(27:01):
young Democrat as well, You're kind of saying, I'm going
to stick with the eighty year old guy. I think
it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I think there's a lot of people like you well.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But I'm not sticking with him because you know, I
just again, I just need best to step up and
say and say more for himself on his own beal.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Well, I don't know. Age is a pretty well pretty
important factor. I mean, look at UH he mentions in
his UH in his presentation today. You know, Ruth Bader
Ginsburg stayed on the US Supreme Court maybe a little
too long.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
UH.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That allowed the Democrats UH to in effect lose a
seat in the US Supreme Court. He referenced that in.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
His Uh yeah, I'm not a big fan of people
who do that, so that's another strike against him.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Well then that what what the Democrat you do is
stay in their office and never leave.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
And no, no, like you say, we have a good bench.
It's just I don't think for me one i'd vote
for LORI I vote for Jake. There was a time
when I would have supported Aana in a primary. Now
I'm thinking I probably wouldn't. But there's other people in
the States.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
If Iana Pressley got in, she would not attract your vote.
If if Laurie Trahan get in, she would attract your vote.
What's the difference did both two young female members of cars.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Honestly, Iana has gone a little bit too far left
for me.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Okay, Okay, Susan, I love your calls. You know that
I got to run here. I'm so glad you called back.
Call more often.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Okay, I'll be curious to hear other opinions.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Absolutely, That's what I'm doing tonight. I'm just trying to
have fun with people. Okay. Thanks as ally, Susan, love
your calls. Thanks for being such a loyal nightside listener.
Thanks thanks very much. Okay, thanks Susan. Hey, good night.
We'll take a quick break. Coming right back here on
night Side. We got another Susan coming up. On the
other side. I got Paul and west Roxbury, Susan and Milton,
Paul and Westford. Susan's and Paul's a wild here one
(29:20):
line at six one seven two thirty one line and
six one seven nine one ten thirty. I'm just having
fun with this. All of a sudden, we lost someone
was coming. We lost two people are dropping off like flyers. Susan,
you stay right there, folks, join the conversation. I gotta
give people a chance to express themselves. If you if
(29:41):
you want to be on for thirty seconds, this is
probably not the show to call, Okay, particularly if you're
someone like Susan from Cambridge's a really good caller. Join
the conversation. MARKI and Moulton, you tell me. Coming back
on Nightside, It's night Side.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
With Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Hey, damn Donny Bezy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY Boston's
news radio doc We Go, Let Me Go, Susan. Thanks
for holding on. Your patience has been rewarded. Welcome, Susan.
How are you?
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Oh great, Hi Dan, how are you?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I'm doing great. Little perplexed why people hold for five
or six minutes and then they drop off. Thank you
for staying with us here. I want to give people
a chance to express themselves. Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I actually was just string across word.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I'm not a cross.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I actually do a cross to puzzle. I'm actually doing
a puzzle puzzle while I was waiting on home. So
the thing is that I probably am not as well
versed as you would want me to be. I used
to be, but I've I'm independent, but I lean to
the left, and I am I've just been really disappointed
(30:53):
in both parties and even local statewide. So I've not
I'm not as well versed as I used to be
because I I've been really turned off. But my main point,
I guess, probably disagreeing with the other Susan, what I
wanted to call about is I don't think anybody eighty
(31:14):
years old should be running for any kind of a seats.
I think the cutoff age should be, and you probably
can disagree with me, is sixty five. I don't think anybody.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Look you have an opinion, well you know I am
not going to disagree with any opinion. I want to
hear what people have to think. If you tell me
that you think the moon is made of green cheese
or blue cheese, I will tell you I think you're wrong.
But no, this is what this is about. Because if
age is a factor here, you there'll be a lot
(31:48):
of people who will voted this race and they will
come down for whatever different reasons. What do you think
of Ed Markey would be the first question.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
I'm disappointed in Ed Markey because and I'm disappointed, and
I'm also and I'm surprised that I would say this
in Elizabeth Warren because I'm almost seventy and I'm a nurse.
But I'm not doing like, for instance, staff nursing. I
know those days are over for me. I'm doing research.
(32:23):
So the job I had when I bring this up,
I even Milton. I could walk to work on this
every other weekend. I did nurse case management at at
Carnee Hospital that I grew up in. Milton was a
wonderful hospital and when I worked here in the eighties,
it was a good hospital. When I worked there in
(32:44):
twenty twenty one, it was a disaster. I stayed there
for three years, and I kept hearing Markey and Warren
a the hospital is not going to close. And I'm
saying to myself, have you been in here? Have you
seen the place? And then and then and everything's going
to We're going to get Dolatry who used to be
(33:05):
a cardiologist, a cardiac surgeon. By the way, he's going
to go to jail. Okay, So none of those things happened.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
And when I brought by the way just to cover ourselves,
he hasn't been convicted of anything yet. So that's that again,
is your opinion? So just still.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
No, no, I asked, I asked somebody, and I asked that.
I asked somebody an important position, and they said, no,
nothing's going to happened to him. At this point, I
guess it's in the Senate and under a Trump, nothing's
going to happen. But it brings me back to the
point where that's when I got really turned off by
every This is the deep days of tip on nail,
(33:46):
you know, Ted Kennedy. It's not those days if no
one is doing anything. But that kind of gets me
off the subject. My main point in calling is if
you're eighty years old. You're too old to be. You
can do other things. You can teach, you can do
other things. I'm not saying throw on the towel, but
(34:07):
you're too old again. I need to cut off age
to run.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
By the way on Carnee Hospital. I don't know this
for a fact, So this is my opinion. I will
bet you Ed Markey at least visited Carnee Hospital. He
does have a presence. I don't know that Elizabeth Warren
could find Carnee Hospital with a rhoda yes, okay, I don't.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Know if Marky I may. I mean, you know, he
may have come for a photo off one of the day. Again,
I worked every other weekend.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Obviously, neither one of them exercised there. It wasn't saved.
You're right, I mean the whole.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Start, the whole Stuart debacle, the whole say that, and.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
It occurred on their watch. And that's something that that
Molten should be should be talking about if he's smart.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So we'll say yeah, yeah, so I would.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I would, and Selene I have to get more involved
in Here's what I would ask of you, Susan.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'm running out of time, but here's what we're going
to talk about. This periodically in the next few months.
I would like you to call periodically and tell me
how you which way you're going, because you know what
you are. You're going to be a weather vane voter.
Whoever you vote for in the end will win this
race because you're that voter doesn't have your mind. You know,
the Marquis Partisans, the Molten Partisans, doesn't matter. They'll vote
(35:28):
for their guy.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
And there are no gals in the race, so I
can say their guy okay, but you will be the
deciding voter. Whoever you vote for in this Democratic primary
will win that nomination. Susan A lucky call that. Thank
you so much for being a loyal listener. Tonight's side.
Talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
I am always like to since you Jan, thank you
talk soon, Okay.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Good night. When we come back, I would like to
continue to talk about this, but that will be up
to you. If you want to fill up these lines,
we can talk about it. You want to talk some
part takes six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
six one seven nine three one ten thirty. If not,
maybe we'll ask you your favorite color. Coming back on
that side,
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