October 15, 2025 • 35 mins
U.S. Representative Seth Moulton made the announcement that he is challenging Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey for his Senate seat in the 2026 primary. In Moulton’s announcement video, he addressed Sen. Markey’s age saying, “it’s time for a new generation of leadership for Democrats and for America.” Do you agree with Moulton and think it’s time for new ideas and new leadership? What are you looking for in a candidate?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's nice time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's NCH.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Radio in politics tonight, it is Seth Moulton running against
Ed Marky. This rumor first popped up, I don't know,
a couple of months ago, and it's a big step.
When you're a United States congressman. Maybe you get to
the point where you say, you know what, I'm tired
of this job. I might also take the shot at
the US Senate you get when you're in Congress. You
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got to run for re election every two years. When
you're the Senate, it's every six years. So that means
you're in Congress, you're always raising money, and that most
congressman will tell you that's the worst part about being
in Congress. You gotta always raise money and there's always
someone else, someone out there looking to get you. I'm
looking to get my listeners and get everybody in here.
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Let me go to I'm going to mattin Florida. Matt's
not gonna wait tonight. Hey Matt, how are you? Hey?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Dan, I'm pretty sad just because my one of the
GRETO was moving to Florida. Here is not going to
be able to vote for quite literally the only real
politician who cares about the people left and Seth Moulton,
he's really literally the only qualified, intelligent politician we have left,
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quite frankly, and I really.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Hope here's a Rod Brake guy. The only thing I
could suggest to you. And I'm very serious when I
say that. I'm sure that if Seth Moulton were listening tonight,
he would appreciate hearing what you said.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
There's not I'm going to donate to him.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well that's not only could you donate to him, but
I'm being serious with you now, but you have friends
left in Massachusetts. You have every right to express your
opinion on this show any night and also to your
friends personally. You can have an influence, seriously, I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
In that and that voting is so messed up. I
could probably go up there and vote up there too anyway,
you know, because you know they don't even check voting,
they don't check anything. I'm probably still on the ballot,
for God's sakes. Like that's how just functional massive chusets.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well with our Secretary of State Bill Galvin. He's always
on top of the things here, and I mean that guy,
there's nobody that's shopping than Bill Galvin up at the
State House, right and.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You did you know I know a lot of lawyers
and a lot of people in the legal field up there.
Did you know they the Secretary of State has yet
to accept debit cards for payment. You you still got
to write checks at the Secretary of State to do anything,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I did not know that. But that might be one
of the things that might be one of the things
that I would consider to be a redeeming value of
Bill Galvin.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
O beginning, Well, I guess I mean to each their
own then, But yeah, that's just how old and outdated
the systems on it. I think I can't even get democots.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
The thing that's beautiful. The thing that's beautiful about Massachusetts
is even if you show up as I like to
show up with my driver's license in hand, because my
driver's license has my picture, it's a federally approved driver's license,
it has UH, it has my name and has my address,
and that proves that I am who I am, and
I live where I claim that I live, and I'm
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under voter rolls. When I pull out my driver's license,
I show it to like the ward monitors in Newton,
oh I don't want to see that, want to that
I can look at that. If I look at that,
I'll go blind.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, what's funny is I've voted a bunch in Florida
and you actually do have to show your ID. So
it's pretty great if I can just so just on
top of that, can I just say one other things?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Absolutely? Absolutely, it's a low bar here, Matt. But you're
the most rational call of this hour. I mean, I'm
compared to your Bob from Delaware. So don't let it
go to your head.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
He's got to keep calling. That's good radio.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
H the best.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Sorry, I just gotta take the sell the rabbit hole
for a second. My favorite thing listening to you since
the inception, as you know, by the best. My favorite
part of the show was when you would call out
the toll takers and you you you'd ask the guy,
You'd say, oh, Bob, where do your work? What toll
are you on?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
You know?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That was the absolute greatest hits of dnray ever.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But I my other last comment and then I'll let
you go, was just the government is not shut down
because they're still taking taxes out of my paycheck, and
the politicians are still getting paid. So as far as
I'm concerned, this is just a big shamp So.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well in all, in all honesty, the Republicans have voted
overwhelmingly to open the government, to have a continuing resolution
for seven weeks, continue the conversation and come to some
sort of compromise consensus. The Democrats are saying, no, no, no,
we don't want you before well the ghost gate, you have,
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you have to surrender on you have. The Democrats are saying,
we will vote for the consinuing resolution, but but you
have to all already, Uh, you have to give up
A B and C. I think why would the Republicans
do that?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, AOC And Bernie, my old friend Bernie was on
CNN at a town hall and it's just it's just
the same as usual. It's just they just waste everyone's time.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah. Well, look, I know that you like Bernie, And
I got to tell you the one thing I respect
about Bernie is I think he has some integrity and
I think that he actually has a set of values
that he believes in. I don't agree with his values,
but but I think the man agreed, you know, has
a set of values that that he has lived by
for his entire public career. So there's something nice that
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that I've just said about Bernie Sanders, and I've said
it before, you know that. But I love you Calls man.
You gotta be Marfrey.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Gets re elected, there is I just I can't. I
have no words for that. But I never thought he
could beat the uh the Kennedy guy. Kennedy lost to
Ed Markey, so who knows. But yeah, good luck to
Seth Moulton.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, I think I think Moulton might have a chance here.
I don't. I think this is going to be a
really interesting race. And it's it's it's thirteen months away.
Uh and well the primary, I should say, is now
eleven months away, so it's not thirteen months away. But
I think it's good for the for the Democratic Party,
and I think it's good for the Coomwalth of Massachusetts.
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Simple as that.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, good luck up there, Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
No problem, keep in contact. I miss talking to you.
Thanks Thanks Matt. Six one seven and two five four
to ten thirty. That line just fulled. If you want
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Ed Markey. It is a heavyweight championship. There's no doubt
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Speaker 1 (07:21):
Coming back, It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Where we're gonna go next, gonna go to Kevin in
South Carolina. Kevin, you're next on Nightside.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Welcome night Dan.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I'm a Massachusetts resident down here, and just to let
you know, is eighty degrees today.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh Man I'll say we haven't seen eighty. Well, it's
been a it's been a rough ride up here. I
don't think we're gonna see eighty until sometime next May.
That's that's what it's looking like. They're talking about maybe
getting up to seventy this weekend and next thing will
be in November. Where where do you? Where do you?
Are you living in South Carolina or are just down
there for the for the vacation.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I permanently here.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
What I mean a little town called some of them,
but they spell at s U.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
M M e er.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah. Yeah, I've heard of that town as a matter
of fact. Well well, Kevin, thank you very much, thank
you for listening to Night Side. We have a lot
of listeners in South Carolina.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
I think we're all people have moved down.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh they are, for the most part.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
They are Boston people.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Oh yeah. I call them expats, not meaning Expatriot players,
but ex pats. You know, they've decided to leave no
estate tax, no income tax in South Carolina, if I'm
not mistaken, no state income tax.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I think it's down to four percent now and they
try to drop it every year.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Wow, that's that's my sort of state.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Let me see you plus the word and my taxes,
my taxes, property taxes, Dan, They're so ridiculous. I copy
the bill, I circle what I pay, and I nail
it to my good friends in Massachusetts to Christmas card
every year.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's that's a very nice thing to do. You know,
It's better than one of those long you know, Uh,
Sally now turned four and she's now going to ballet
and uh and doing whatever playing basketball. So what do
you think? I go, Yeah, go ahead, Well, you and.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
I go back in politics and do England at Boston
for sixty years. There was a time Seth Molten would
have needed permission to make this announcement from the Democratic hierarchy.
If the Democratic hiar wanted him, they would have said
to Ed Markey, Hey, Ed, we got a federal judgeship
for you, and is a bridge over the Merrimack will
name for you.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
So why don't you step aside and we'll let Seth
do it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, it'd be a package deal. Yeah, but not now.
I mean, I was surprised that that Joe Kennedy lost
Ed Markey. I got to be honest with you. I
thought the Kennedy name still had had some sway but
Ed Markey did very well with younger voters, even though
he was the older of the two candidates, which was
kind of different. He got AOC to come in. And
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it is a Democratic it is a different Democratic party, right,
I would be.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
There's no hierarchy anymore to control it.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, the thing that's interesting, and I think that Susan
call her last hour, who's a good friend of mine.
A those she and I see things differently. You have
a really good deep bench of politicians Democratic politicians in Massachusetts.
So if I'm a young guy and I'm a lawyer,
or if I'm a young woman and I'm a lawyer
and I want to build my law practice, and I
run for state representative, it's a tough fight generally does
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two or three other people. But you get elected to
the State House of Representatives and then you hope you
move up. But incomes Aana Presley, she knocks off Mike Capauano.
Incomes Elizabeth Warren. She steps ahead of all of these
Democrats in the House who might have wanted to run
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for US Senate. Catherine Clark comes in from from Colorado.
They all Mayor Wu comes in from Chicago, They all
come in from look at Fernandez whatever, the one who
just indicted is going to be going to jail. She
came in from somewhere in Africa. It's amazing that how
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many of them, the seasoned, professional democratic members of the legislature,
they they stand back whenever anybody comes in. People could
commit from South Carolina. Not you, but people could commit
from South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
We're not.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I know, don't worry. I'm not concerned.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Here's what I think.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
I think you can have seven to ten people will
announce for it. They may not all be in it,
but they'll announce for it. Looks good in the resume
that they did it, and the win is going to
get like thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
If they're that. Look if if there are you know,
multiple candidates, that's a good sign for Ed Markey.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Yeah, you know, and that's you know, you keep voting
far so.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Well, what I'm saying is that you and you're an
incumbany US senator, if it's a head to head match up,
Molten might have a chance. I don't. I think it's
still be the underdog. But if all of a sudden
you had you know, three or four other people who
came in there who had some ability to raise raise
some uh, get some votes, raise some money at MARQUI
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might might have an easier uh election, re election than
we ever could have imagined.
Speaker 9 (12:21):
I mean, I you always you do your best to
dilute the opposition. The opposition has all those candidates, and
you are by yourself, and it just also depends which
win of the party decides to come up that day.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, at this point, it's it's a big progressive wing
up here in Massachusetts, Okay. I mean, you know, even
Congressman Steve Lynch, who's a great guy and a good
friend of mine, he was he was down there calling
the immigration guy's Nazis or something like that, and he's
concerned about uh, someone coming and he does not want
to become the next Mike capa Wano. Mike Capawana was
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one of the more liberal members of the congressional delegation
and a really decent guy. And he's a good friend.
We disagree politically, but he's a good he's a good
friend and a good guy. And he got he never
saw Ayanna Presley coming. And that's the strength of the
progressives here in Massachusetts. Kevin, great to hear your voice.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
You've got a personality anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You got to call more often.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
It's the ideology.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, oh, it is big time ideology. Yeah. Well you
know there's no there's no again, Kevin as well. We
please continue to listen and stop by more frequently. Okay,
thanks buddy, great, thank good night. Six one seven, two
thirty six one seven, nine thirty. Let me go to
Joe and Belmont. Joe, I'm not sure if you're a Democrat.
I don't think you are, but i'd love to know
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what you think Seth Moulton versus Ed Markey. Go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
I'd give you three reasons why why I would vote
for Moulton. First, because of his patriotism. He's a four
uh term Iraqi combat veteran. Second, because he went against
the Democratic Party and supported his daughter in high school
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sports whatever that issue was. And Third, he was smart
enough to get into Harvard and also graduate.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, he's a smart guy. Mark's a smart guy too,
you know. I mean, Marky was BC and I think
BC Law School. Nothing wrong with that school, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
By the way, I got to make the announcement tonight
that we will be doing our annual college admissions program
with the Deans of Admission from Harvard and Boston College,
Grant Gosling and Bill Fitzsimmons from Harvard Grant from Boston
College on Monday night, November tenth. So any of you
out there who have students in high school who are
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beginning the application process or in the process of applying
to college, or if you have Grant children, they want
to be listening on Monday night, November tenth. We generally
do two hours with this is called our college Admissions Panel.
We've done it. This will be our nineteenth year doing it.
Invaluable information for young people who are going through that
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It's a real chore to file all the applications, even
though they still have common application to figure out. There's
lots of questions and you can get insights from either
Bill fitz Simmons of Harvard or Grant Gosling from Boston College.
So I know you're you're beyond beyond college age, Joe,
but I just wanted to take an opportunity to mention that.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
So you yeah, one more thing, Okay, sure, what is
Marky's greatest legislation that he has accomplished?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, well, Marky has been one of these guys he's
he's done some good work in terms of and personally
that I'm aware of making sure that radios a radio
is in automobiles. That's one of the things that I
feel he's been very good on that. There's a lot
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of automobile manufacturers who want to keep AM radios out
of cars, and I will be the first to admit
that I am interested in that because as somebody who
works for an AM radio station, I want our program
to be available to people not only at home and
also in automobiles. But it's also it's also a point
from you know, preparedness in case of disasters. AM radio
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stations have a much stronger throw and they reach further distances.
You heard Kevin from Somerville and Matt from Florida who
are listening to the station, whether they're listening on the
Internet or on terrestrial radio. So he's he's been good
on those issues. On a lot of the social issues,
people would look at him and say that that he
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was good, But again he's a little more progressive than
I am politically. Are you registered as an independent or
an unenrolled Joe Republican?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
You know I'm a.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Trump Well, I understand that bye, bye bye. By being
listed as a Republican, Joe, you know you will not
be able to vote in the the Democratic primary next year.
If you were unenrolled and there were no uh no
uh primaries on the Republican side, you then could take
a Democratic ballot and vote for either multen or market,
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which you have every right to do.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I would probably vote Republican. Dan.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, you tell me who's going to be the Republican
candidate for Senate next year. I'm not sure to even
have one.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
I don't even know, Dan, Right.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's what I'm saying. So all I'm just saying is
that it's smarter to be registered, in my opinion, just
my opinion, Joe as unenrolled, because then you can take
either a Democratic or a Republican ballot in the primary.
Right back at you, Joe, Thank you much. Have a
great one.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
Bye bye bye.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Okay, all right, I got some open lines here. If
you don't want to talk politics, I'm very disappointed. Six
one seven, two, five four to ten thirty six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. I am truly looking to
hear from Democrats, independents, and Republicans, but particularly Democrats and Independents.
Ed Markey has been in Congress since nineteen seventy six.
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Long time, but he's been re elected every time by
voters here in Massachusetts, first in his congressional district and
now twice statewide. He is running for reelection. I don't
think he's going to get out. If Joe Kennedy didn't
scare him out in twenty twenty, I don't think Seth
Moulton will scare him out uh in twenty twenty six.
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But there's a long time between now and next September.
Who are you surprised that Moulton has gotten in? Are
you surprised that an incumbent Democratic senator in Massachusetts is
being challenged? And who do you like? It was your
preference if the election were held today. You probably know
more about market than Moulten. But what do you think?
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Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty six one
seven nine. Back on Nights Side after this, I'm having fun.
I hope you are as well.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
It's Nights Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And by the way, not only is Seth Moulton challenging
at marketing, but Moulten gives up his seat this is
not the sort of race where you can jump in
against the US Senator and also run for Congress for
the House of Representatives. So not only does Moulton have
something to lose, he loses a safe seat. I don't
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think there's any doubt he would have been reelected. Let's
keep rolling. You're gonna go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill,
your next on Nightside. Appreciate your carg Go righthead, Bill.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Hey, Dan, I got a couple of questions. Now, how
many how many senators do the Democrats have to win
to uh take control back of the Senate.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Well, right now, I think the split is fifty three
forty seven. So to take control back of the Senate,
that have to pick up four seats that had that
have to get to that have to get to fifty
one because fifty to fifty you would still have Vice
President Vance as the President of the Senate. So I
have to pick up four, which is going to be
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a tough one. The Republicans potentially could pick up one
here in New Hampshire. Scott Brown is running for an
open seat here in New Hampshire. There's there's some other
open seats. The Republicans are are positioned better than most
parties for an off your election. Normally, when the president wins,
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his party loses in the next what it's called off
your election. This might be a different situation.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Well, I don't know too much about Seth Moulton, of course,
I'm down here in Pennsylvania. Yeah, but I know he's
I know he's a He's a He was in the
Marine Corps.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yep, for four tours, tour for four tours in the
Middle East. It was. It's the real deal.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
God bless them for that. Hey is he is Seth
Moulton Jewish?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I honestly don't know, to be really honest with you,
I don't know. I don't know what his religious persuasion is.
If anything, I.
Speaker 8 (21:17):
Get the feeling that when I see him every now
and now, i'll see him on different programs, I get
the feeling that he's kind of fed up with the
progressive wing of that Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah. I think he's concerned that the Democrat Party is
probably drifting a little too far left. He caught a
lot of heat last spring when he made some comments
about transgender men or you know, trans just a transgender
boys competing in high school, uh on on on female
athletic teams. Now his two daughters. He has two young daughters.
They're like two and four, so they're not in high school.
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They're not anywhere near high school. But he did express
an opinion on that, and he was battered by you know,
up here it's very strong, aggressive wing of the Democratic Party.
He was battered for expressing his opinion not only as
a dad, but because he's a congressman. He he caught
a lot of grief on that. I don't know if
that has has influenced this decision here, and he feels
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now is now or never, But we'll we'll have to see, uh,
you know, at some point.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Between between Seth Moulten and Marky, who's who's better for?
Because I think this is gonna be a big, big
topic is going to be uh law and order. And
when they're both asked this question about what do you
think about the our guys uh taking out these uh
these drug boats that are coming up from Venezuela, who
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will because.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I can tell you what they each would say. They
would they would be very each would express concern that
the Trump administration oversteps their bounds as a Democrat. You
can't go wrong in Massachusetts by criticizing the administration. I mean,
I think that frankly, even with the peace deal that
we saw, you know, negotiated this week in the return
of the hostages, the live hostages and some of the
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deceased or the remains of some of the deceased hostages,
very few Democrats up here have said much nice about
much about President Trump. I mean, it's like, give the
guy his due. I mean, give him his due and
go back and criticize them whatever you want. The other
thing that you haven't seen up here is that all
of the peace demonstrators, you know, who wanted peace now
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and all of where are they. They're gone, They're disappeared.
It's the thin air. It's like they were apparitions.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
I got a good idea, Dan, you want to.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Hear it, I'll give it a shot.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
Go ahead, Okay, Hey Dan, they are to somebody at
a start. Okay, an organization called students to go to
Gaza and rebuild Gaza. And they had to go to
all the campuses, you know, and sign up students.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Good luck with that, Yeah, good luck with that.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
I'm saying. I'm saying that was that would show that
would show there are two colors. But the other thing
is this all right as far as as far as
Markey and and Seth Moulten. Okay, if Seth Moulten loses, okay,
it's gonna be it's gonna be bad for a Democrat
party and it's gonna be good for the Republican Party
because the Republican is gonna go around to say, look
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what happened up in Massachusetts. You know the old guy
up there. One it's still the old guys, you know,
rule and uh and uh, and a moderate got beat
Seth Maulten got beat.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, I think that's considered. I think that Molten probably will.
We'll try to tack to the left, but I think
that institutionally he's a little more moderate than than a Marky.
Got to get one more in here before the break.
Thank you, Bill, talk soon. That's a great We have
a great one. Let me go to John down on
the cape all the way all the way out to Wellfleet. Hey, John, welcome,
How are you Dan?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I'm doing great, Just trying to get a sense of
what people are thinking today. This a big story. And yeah,
the Ed Markey race and Seth Molten stepping out. I mean,
this is he's a Ed Markey beat Joe Kennedy. Can
he do it again? We'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Well, uh, from my perspective that I'm speaking as somebody
who I guess if I had to describe myself in
a nutshell, i'd call myself a somewhat less leading libertarian.
I'm enrolled as far as my registration goes, so you
can vote on the Democrats and you could vote in whichever.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
There'll be no republic I don't think there's a Republican primary,
but you'll be able to vote in the Democratic primary
if you want.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I'm planning, planning to do that.
I serve on a select board out here, and both
Marquy and our Congressman Bill Keating have both been absolutely
stellar in helping us with projects and concerns that involved
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in the federal government, particularly of the Army Corps of Engineers,
for example, a very tough to deal with federal agency,
and I do plan to and as far as policy goes,
I regard both of them necess fairly far left. I
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am a very strong Second Amendment guy. Neither one of
them is, uh, is someone I would consider pro Second Amendment.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And it sounds to me like you're going to lean
towards Markey because Markey has now again Seth Molten wouldn't
have much impact as a congressman from the north Shore
down the Cape. But you're telling me that Marky was there.
Was Marky more supportive of your you folks on local
issues than Elizabeth.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Warren depending on the issue she was, Uh, Marky was
definitely more present than accounted for, for instance, on issues
surrounding such items as dredging in Harbor yep. And on
the other hand, Senator Warren, we have another major project
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out here involving a salt marsh restoration, one of the
biggest ones in the country, and she's been proactive on
that in the past, but she's not really been a
player in the stuff I've been involved.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Okay, I'll ask you this question. In the last two years,
now you're you're an independent, but Jolean Democrat. In the
last two years, how many times has Ed Markey either
been in your town or been in touch with the
leadership of your town. And you're one of the leaders
versus that Versus Elizabeth Warren who's been more accessible.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
But they've both been out here since I've been on
the select Board over the last four and a half years.
I believe they've they've been out here once or twice
that I can think of.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Okay, so that's comparable. Okay, I could be wrong about that,
but might I know that? Uh so you're leading Let
me let me bring you back to I took you
down a rabbit hole with Warren, which is fine. Let
me pull you out of the rabbit hole. So you're
leaning towards supporting Markey despite his advanced age.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Definitely planning to support Marquee in this And yeah, as
far as my leanings, you know, if there was a
Republican who wasn't associated with Donald Trump and wasn't you know,
part of the radical ring of the wing of the
Republican Party, I might be inclined to support them.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Okay, I'm going to run one by you. Let's assume.
Let's assume that here you go. Let's assume Charlie Baker
decided to come back and run for the US Senate
against whoever won Moulten, the Markie. Does he have a
possibility of your vote? I'm going to say probably not.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
I would, I would, I would consider it, But there again.
You're talking about somebody who's basically barely lukewarm on issues
like the Second Amendment and uh never really was a
player out here.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
But if he's luke woman the second in member, if
you what.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I thought, he was a good governor, right, I would
definitely vote all right?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Interesting analysis. All right, Hey, thanks very much, John. I
know I've heard from him before. I'd love to hear
from you more often because I think you might be
one of these weather vane voters in the Democratic Party
who's going to give a lot of thought to this
and whoever you decide on will be the Democratic primary
winner in my in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Let me let me part with this thought, which is,
if the Democrats want to start winning elections, they need
to leave the guns alone.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
Good luck with that thought, thanks, Jean. I have a
good one, OK, take it easy, all right. I got
Ken and Waltam on the other side. We're going to
talk to Ken and I got room for you. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten, thirty six seven nine, we'll be back.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
We'll wrap it up. On the other side.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
You're on night side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you
Boston's News radio.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
All right, let me go to my friend Kenon Waltham.
Ken is a Democrat. Ken, I'm going to be fascinated
to see what you think about this race.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Go right ahead, Ken, Well, I definitely supported Kennedy six
years ago. I'll support moment for sure.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Really, Okay, I'm around. So is there a question of
age in your mind?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Well, I think that's a factor. I think if there
are policies who were reversed, I'd support Marquie. But I
think Malton was just more mainstream and would be more relevant.
And I can tell you kind of a quick funny
story that to me epitomizes it all. Is. You know,
before Mark Esper was Secretary of Defense, and before he
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was Secretary of the Army, he was vice president of
government relations at Raytheon. I was in some meetings with
him and heard some presentations in that because I was
a long time Raytheon employee. And at one point somebody
asked him this was right after Elizabeth Warren got a
and you could tell by the questioner's voice that he
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was taking a shot at Elizabeth Warren saying, like, you know,
what does she like to deal with? What's her right?
And and Esper said, oh, she gets it. She understands us,
she recognizes us, you know how important we are in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Kind of I questioned Esper's judgment on that, but go ahead.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Well I'm thinking, boy, what a politician this guy is, right,
And but then without a beat he finished and kind
of almost half under the breath, he said, you know
it's Ed Markey who wants absolutely nothing to do with us,
And yeah, yeah, that's and to me that that kind
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of I mean, I just see Marky Moore on the
Fringes and Malton that's.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Interesting, more interesting. Yeah, you know, Marky's been around so
long and he's a first of all, I like both
Molten and Marky personally. Okay, I want to make that
very clear. Okay, I get along with with each of them.
I hope to have both of them on my show
and so they can talk to my audience. Uh, and
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we'll see. You know, you know, Moulton's been on before,
Marky's been on before. I would be I would be
totally fair to both of them because I think they're
very similar. To be really honest with you, I think
the other the age is the big difference. Uh. And
some will argue, well, you know, Marky's age and his
experience is important, and others will argue, h Moulton's age
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and his his his youthful, his youth are equally important.
I don't know who do you think will win this
this nomination? You know what if it if it turns
out to just to be Moulten versus Markey. You're a Democrat.
You saw what happened to Joe Kennedy. I was stunned
that that Markie stood in there and then handled Kennedy
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Kennedy as easily as he did. Even though you're a
Molten supporter, this is going to be a tough fight
for Maulten.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, oh yeah, I think he's taking a big risk.
I don't know, I don't know the answer. You know,
when Moulton was born, right, Marky was already a congressman,
so he has been around a long time.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Well that, yeah, Multon Moulton said that in his in
his opening remarks today he did. Yeah, he made the point.
I mean, Moulton's only forty six years old, mark He's
been in Congress now for almost fifty years.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
You know, I'd like to hear one of these guys
say something like, you know, why should I you know,
why improve any budget at this point. I mean, you know,
Trump is just gonna anytime he wants, He just throws
an executive order out there, and just cuts whatever funding
we pass, you know, for for our you know, particular project.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Then he ends up in a fight in the courts.
I mean, he can, he can, he can, you know,
he can sign executive orders. But whether or not they
hold is another another question.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Well, let me ask you this, who do you who?
You're You're a rational Democrat. I'm looking at this and
I'm thinking to myself. The Democrats are basically saying, if
I understand it correctly, look, we will go with the
continuing Resolution as long as you capitulate on three or
four things that we want right now. And the Republicans
are saying, let's just open it up and have more
negotiations and let's let's keep everything where it is. The
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Democrats are voting against it, and the Republicans are voting
to open the government. Am I wrong on that? Ken?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Nope, Nope, you're not. But I think you know my
view when uh, you know, when Trump killed you or
you know, must did it, but Trump didn't didn't stand
his way. But when he killed the USA and the
CFPB and these programs that you know Congress voted in.
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I mean I that would be the last time I
would vote for any budget.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I mean, Ken, I'm flat up against it. We got
a good conversation. We got almost five We did get
five minutes, which is great, and I'm glad there was
nobody breathing down you neck. And we will talk soon.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Okay, very good, Thanks Jim.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Thanks so much, Ken. Done for the night, done for
the eating. I want to thank all the callers, particularly
the new callers would call tonight. I want to thank Rob.
I want to thank Marita. I thought we had a
really interesting show between Boston's coffee culture and the moulten
Marky Race. That's what Nightside's all about. And with the
except only one person walked the plank tonight, as we
would have expected, Bob. Anyway, Bob can keep calling, He'll
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Radio in politics tonight, it is Seth Moulton running against
Ed Marky. This rumor first popped up, I don't know,
a couple of months ago, and it's a big step.
When you're a United States congressman. Maybe you get to
the point where you say, you know what, I'm tired
of this job. I might also take the shot at
the US Senate you get when you're in Congress. You
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got to run for re election every two years. When
you're the Senate, it's every six years. So that means
you're in Congress, you're always raising money, and that most
congressman will tell you that's the worst part about being
in Congress. You gotta always raise money and there's always
someone else, someone out there looking to get you. I'm
looking to get my listeners and get everybody in here.
(00:50):
Let me go to I'm going to mattin Florida. Matt's
not gonna wait tonight. Hey Matt, how are you? Hey?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Dan, I'm pretty sad just because my one of the
GRETO was moving to Florida. Here is not going to
be able to vote for quite literally the only real
politician who cares about the people left and Seth Moulton,
he's really literally the only qualified, intelligent politician we have left,
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quite frankly, and I really.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Hope here's a Rod Brake guy. The only thing I
could suggest to you. And I'm very serious when I
say that. I'm sure that if Seth Moulton were listening tonight,
he would appreciate hearing what you said.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
There's not I'm going to donate to him.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well that's not only could you donate to him, but
I'm being serious with you now, but you have friends
left in Massachusetts. You have every right to express your
opinion on this show any night and also to your
friends personally. You can have an influence, seriously, I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
In that and that voting is so messed up. I
could probably go up there and vote up there too anyway,
you know, because you know they don't even check voting,
they don't check anything. I'm probably still on the ballot,
for God's sakes. Like that's how just functional massive chusets.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well with our Secretary of State Bill Galvin. He's always
on top of the things here, and I mean that guy,
there's nobody that's shopping than Bill Galvin up at the
State House, right and.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You did you know I know a lot of lawyers
and a lot of people in the legal field up there.
Did you know they the Secretary of State has yet
to accept debit cards for payment. You you still got
to write checks at the Secretary of State to do anything,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I did not know that. But that might be one
of the things that might be one of the things
that I would consider to be a redeeming value of
Bill Galvin.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
O beginning, Well, I guess I mean to each their
own then, But yeah, that's just how old and outdated
the systems on it. I think I can't even get democots.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
The thing that's beautiful. The thing that's beautiful about Massachusetts
is even if you show up as I like to
show up with my driver's license in hand, because my
driver's license has my picture, it's a federally approved driver's license,
it has UH, it has my name and has my address,
and that proves that I am who I am, and
I live where I claim that I live, and I'm
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under voter rolls. When I pull out my driver's license,
I show it to like the ward monitors in Newton,
oh I don't want to see that, want to that
I can look at that. If I look at that,
I'll go blind.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, what's funny is I've voted a bunch in Florida
and you actually do have to show your ID. So
it's pretty great if I can just so just on
top of that, can I just say one other things?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Absolutely? Absolutely, it's a low bar here, Matt. But you're
the most rational call of this hour. I mean, I'm
compared to your Bob from Delaware. So don't let it
go to your head.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
He's got to keep calling. That's good radio.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
H the best.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Sorry, I just gotta take the sell the rabbit hole
for a second. My favorite thing listening to you since
the inception, as you know, by the best. My favorite
part of the show was when you would call out
the toll takers and you you you'd ask the guy,
You'd say, oh, Bob, where do your work? What toll
are you on?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
You know?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That was the absolute greatest hits of dnray ever.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But I my other last comment and then I'll let
you go, was just the government is not shut down
because they're still taking taxes out of my paycheck, and
the politicians are still getting paid. So as far as
I'm concerned, this is just a big shamp So.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well in all, in all honesty, the Republicans have voted
overwhelmingly to open the government, to have a continuing resolution
for seven weeks, continue the conversation and come to some
sort of compromise consensus. The Democrats are saying, no, no, no,
we don't want you before well the ghost gate, you have,
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you have to surrender on you have. The Democrats are saying,
we will vote for the consinuing resolution, but but you
have to all already, Uh, you have to give up
A B and C. I think why would the Republicans
do that?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, AOC And Bernie, my old friend Bernie was on
CNN at a town hall and it's just it's just
the same as usual. It's just they just waste everyone's time.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah. Well, look, I know that you like Bernie, And
I got to tell you the one thing I respect
about Bernie is I think he has some integrity and
I think that he actually has a set of values
that he believes in. I don't agree with his values,
but but I think the man agreed, you know, has
a set of values that that he has lived by
for his entire public career. So there's something nice that
(05:39):
that I've just said about Bernie Sanders, and I've said
it before, you know that. But I love you Calls man.
You gotta be Marfrey.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Gets re elected, there is I just I can't. I
have no words for that. But I never thought he
could beat the uh the Kennedy guy. Kennedy lost to
Ed Markey, so who knows. But yeah, good luck to
Seth Moulton.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, I think I think Moulton might have a chance here.
I don't. I think this is going to be a
really interesting race. And it's it's it's thirteen months away.
Uh and well the primary, I should say, is now
eleven months away, so it's not thirteen months away. But
I think it's good for the for the Democratic Party,
and I think it's good for the Coomwalth of Massachusetts.
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Simple as that.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, good luck up there, Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
No problem, keep in contact. I miss talking to you.
Thanks Thanks Matt. Six one seven and two five four
to ten thirty. That line just fulled. If you want
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Speaker 1 (07:21):
Coming back, It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Where we're gonna go next, gonna go to Kevin in
South Carolina. Kevin, you're next on Nightside.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Welcome night Dan.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I'm a Massachusetts resident down here, and just to let
you know, is eighty degrees today.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh Man I'll say we haven't seen eighty. Well, it's
been a it's been a rough ride up here. I
don't think we're gonna see eighty until sometime next May.
That's that's what it's looking like. They're talking about maybe
getting up to seventy this weekend and next thing will
be in November. Where where do you? Where do you?
Are you living in South Carolina or are just down
there for the for the vacation.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I permanently here.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
What I mean a little town called some of them,
but they spell at s U.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
M M e er.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah. Yeah, I've heard of that town as a matter
of fact. Well well, Kevin, thank you very much, thank
you for listening to Night Side. We have a lot
of listeners in South Carolina.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
I think we're all people have moved down.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh they are, for the most part.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
They are Boston people.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Oh yeah. I call them expats, not meaning Expatriot players,
but ex pats. You know, they've decided to leave no
estate tax, no income tax in South Carolina, if I'm
not mistaken, no state income tax.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I think it's down to four percent now and they
try to drop it every year.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Wow, that's that's my sort of state.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Let me see you plus the word and my taxes,
my taxes, property taxes, Dan, They're so ridiculous. I copy
the bill, I circle what I pay, and I nail
it to my good friends in Massachusetts to Christmas card
every year.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's that's a very nice thing to do. You know,
It's better than one of those long you know, Uh,
Sally now turned four and she's now going to ballet
and uh and doing whatever playing basketball. So what do
you think? I go, Yeah, go ahead, Well, you and.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
I go back in politics and do England at Boston
for sixty years. There was a time Seth Molten would
have needed permission to make this announcement from the Democratic hierarchy.
If the Democratic hiar wanted him, they would have said
to Ed Markey, Hey, Ed, we got a federal judgeship
for you, and is a bridge over the Merrimack will
name for you.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
So why don't you step aside and we'll let Seth
do it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, it'd be a package deal. Yeah, but not now.
I mean, I was surprised that that Joe Kennedy lost
Ed Markey. I got to be honest with you. I
thought the Kennedy name still had had some sway but
Ed Markey did very well with younger voters, even though
he was the older of the two candidates, which was
kind of different. He got AOC to come in. And
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it is a Democratic it is a different Democratic party, right,
I would be.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
There's no hierarchy anymore to control it.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, the thing that's interesting, and I think that Susan
call her last hour, who's a good friend of mine.
A those she and I see things differently. You have
a really good deep bench of politicians Democratic politicians in Massachusetts.
So if I'm a young guy and I'm a lawyer,
or if I'm a young woman and I'm a lawyer
and I want to build my law practice, and I
run for state representative, it's a tough fight generally does
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two or three other people. But you get elected to
the State House of Representatives and then you hope you
move up. But incomes Aana Presley, she knocks off Mike Capauano.
Incomes Elizabeth Warren. She steps ahead of all of these
Democrats in the House who might have wanted to run
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for US Senate. Catherine Clark comes in from from Colorado.
They all Mayor Wu comes in from Chicago, They all
come in from look at Fernandez whatever, the one who
just indicted is going to be going to jail. She
came in from somewhere in Africa. It's amazing that how
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many of them, the seasoned, professional democratic members of the legislature,
they they stand back whenever anybody comes in. People could
commit from South Carolina. Not you, but people could commit
from South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
We're not.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I know, don't worry. I'm not concerned.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Here's what I think.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
I think you can have seven to ten people will
announce for it. They may not all be in it,
but they'll announce for it. Looks good in the resume
that they did it, and the win is going to
get like thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
If they're that. Look if if there are you know,
multiple candidates, that's a good sign for Ed Markey.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Yeah, you know, and that's you know, you keep voting
far so.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Well, what I'm saying is that you and you're an
incumbany US senator, if it's a head to head match up,
Molten might have a chance. I don't. I think it's
still be the underdog. But if all of a sudden
you had you know, three or four other people who
came in there who had some ability to raise raise
some uh, get some votes, raise some money at MARQUI
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might might have an easier uh election, re election than
we ever could have imagined.
Speaker 9 (12:21):
I mean, I you always you do your best to
dilute the opposition. The opposition has all those candidates, and
you are by yourself, and it just also depends which
win of the party decides to come up that day.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, at this point, it's it's a big progressive wing
up here in Massachusetts, Okay. I mean, you know, even
Congressman Steve Lynch, who's a great guy and a good
friend of mine, he was he was down there calling
the immigration guy's Nazis or something like that, and he's
concerned about uh, someone coming and he does not want
to become the next Mike capa Wano. Mike Capawana was
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one of the more liberal members of the congressional delegation
and a really decent guy. And he's a good friend.
We disagree politically, but he's a good he's a good
friend and a good guy. And he got he never
saw Ayanna Presley coming. And that's the strength of the
progressives here in Massachusetts. Kevin, great to hear your voice.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
You've got a personality anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You got to call more often.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
It's the ideology.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, oh, it is big time ideology. Yeah. Well you
know there's no there's no again, Kevin as well. We
please continue to listen and stop by more frequently. Okay,
thanks buddy, great, thank good night. Six one seven, two
thirty six one seven, nine thirty. Let me go to
Joe and Belmont. Joe, I'm not sure if you're a Democrat.
I don't think you are, but i'd love to know
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what you think Seth Moulton versus Ed Markey. Go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
I'd give you three reasons why why I would vote
for Moulton. First, because of his patriotism. He's a four
uh term Iraqi combat veteran. Second, because he went against
the Democratic Party and supported his daughter in high school
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sports whatever that issue was. And Third, he was smart
enough to get into Harvard and also graduate.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, he's a smart guy. Mark's a smart guy too,
you know. I mean, Marky was BC and I think
BC Law School. Nothing wrong with that school, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
By the way, I got to make the announcement tonight
that we will be doing our annual college admissions program
with the Deans of Admission from Harvard and Boston College,
Grant Gosling and Bill Fitzsimmons from Harvard Grant from Boston
College on Monday night, November tenth. So any of you
out there who have students in high school who are
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beginning the application process or in the process of applying
to college, or if you have Grant children, they want
to be listening on Monday night, November tenth. We generally
do two hours with this is called our college Admissions Panel.
We've done it. This will be our nineteenth year doing it.
Invaluable information for young people who are going through that
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It's a real chore to file all the applications, even
though they still have common application to figure out. There's
lots of questions and you can get insights from either
Bill fitz Simmons of Harvard or Grant Gosling from Boston College.
So I know you're you're beyond beyond college age, Joe,
but I just wanted to take an opportunity to mention that.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
So you yeah, one more thing, Okay, sure, what is
Marky's greatest legislation that he has accomplished?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, well, Marky has been one of these guys he's
he's done some good work in terms of and personally
that I'm aware of making sure that radios a radio
is in automobiles. That's one of the things that I
feel he's been very good on that. There's a lot
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of automobile manufacturers who want to keep AM radios out
of cars, and I will be the first to admit
that I am interested in that because as somebody who
works for an AM radio station, I want our program
to be available to people not only at home and
also in automobiles. But it's also it's also a point
from you know, preparedness in case of disasters. AM radio
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stations have a much stronger throw and they reach further distances.
You heard Kevin from Somerville and Matt from Florida who
are listening to the station, whether they're listening on the
Internet or on terrestrial radio. So he's he's been good
on those issues. On a lot of the social issues,
people would look at him and say that that he
(16:51):
was good, But again he's a little more progressive than
I am politically. Are you registered as an independent or
an unenrolled Joe Republican?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
You know I'm a.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Trump Well, I understand that bye, bye bye. By being
listed as a Republican, Joe, you know you will not
be able to vote in the the Democratic primary next year.
If you were unenrolled and there were no uh no
uh primaries on the Republican side, you then could take
a Democratic ballot and vote for either multen or market,
(17:23):
which you have every right to do.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I would probably vote Republican. Dan.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, you tell me who's going to be the Republican
candidate for Senate next year. I'm not sure to even
have one.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
I don't even know, Dan, Right.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's what I'm saying. So all I'm just saying is
that it's smarter to be registered, in my opinion, just
my opinion, Joe as unenrolled, because then you can take
either a Democratic or a Republican ballot in the primary.
Right back at you, Joe, Thank you much. Have a
great one.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
Bye bye bye.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Okay, all right, I got some open lines here. If
you don't want to talk politics, I'm very disappointed. Six
one seven, two, five four to ten thirty six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. I am truly looking to
hear from Democrats, independents, and Republicans, but particularly Democrats and Independents.
Ed Markey has been in Congress since nineteen seventy six.
(18:20):
Long time, but he's been re elected every time by
voters here in Massachusetts, first in his congressional district and
now twice statewide. He is running for reelection. I don't
think he's going to get out. If Joe Kennedy didn't
scare him out in twenty twenty, I don't think Seth
Moulton will scare him out uh in twenty twenty six.
(18:42):
But there's a long time between now and next September.
Who are you surprised that Moulton has gotten in? Are
you surprised that an incumbent Democratic senator in Massachusetts is
being challenged? And who do you like? It was your
preference if the election were held today. You probably know
more about market than Moulten. But what do you think?
(19:03):
Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty six one
seven nine. Back on Nights Side after this, I'm having fun.
I hope you are as well.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
It's Nights Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And by the way, not only is Seth Moulton challenging
at marketing, but Moulten gives up his seat this is
not the sort of race where you can jump in
against the US Senator and also run for Congress for
the House of Representatives. So not only does Moulton have
something to lose, he loses a safe seat. I don't
(19:42):
think there's any doubt he would have been reelected. Let's
keep rolling. You're gonna go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill,
your next on Nightside. Appreciate your carg Go righthead, Bill.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Hey, Dan, I got a couple of questions. Now, how
many how many senators do the Democrats have to win
to uh take control back of the Senate.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Well, right now, I think the split is fifty three
forty seven. So to take control back of the Senate,
that have to pick up four seats that had that
have to get to that have to get to fifty
one because fifty to fifty you would still have Vice
President Vance as the President of the Senate. So I
have to pick up four, which is going to be
(20:19):
a tough one. The Republicans potentially could pick up one
here in New Hampshire. Scott Brown is running for an
open seat here in New Hampshire. There's there's some other
open seats. The Republicans are are positioned better than most
parties for an off your election. Normally, when the president wins,
(20:39):
his party loses in the next what it's called off
your election. This might be a different situation.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Well, I don't know too much about Seth Moulton, of course,
I'm down here in Pennsylvania. Yeah, but I know he's
I know he's a He's a He was in the
Marine Corps.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yep, for four tours, tour for four tours in the
Middle East. It was. It's the real deal.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
God bless them for that. Hey is he is Seth
Moulton Jewish?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I honestly don't know, to be really honest with you,
I don't know. I don't know what his religious persuasion is.
If anything, I.
Speaker 8 (21:17):
Get the feeling that when I see him every now
and now, i'll see him on different programs, I get
the feeling that he's kind of fed up with the
progressive wing of that Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah. I think he's concerned that the Democrat Party is
probably drifting a little too far left. He caught a
lot of heat last spring when he made some comments
about transgender men or you know, trans just a transgender
boys competing in high school, uh on on on female
athletic teams. Now his two daughters. He has two young daughters.
They're like two and four, so they're not in high school.
(21:50):
They're not anywhere near high school. But he did express
an opinion on that, and he was battered by you know,
up here it's very strong, aggressive wing of the Democratic Party.
He was battered for expressing his opinion not only as
a dad, but because he's a congressman. He he caught
a lot of grief on that. I don't know if
that has has influenced this decision here, and he feels
(22:14):
now is now or never, But we'll we'll have to see, uh,
you know, at some point.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Between between Seth Moulten and Marky, who's who's better for?
Because I think this is gonna be a big, big
topic is going to be uh law and order. And
when they're both asked this question about what do you
think about the our guys uh taking out these uh
these drug boats that are coming up from Venezuela, who
(22:44):
will because.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I can tell you what they each would say. They
would they would be very each would express concern that
the Trump administration oversteps their bounds as a Democrat. You
can't go wrong in Massachusetts by criticizing the administration. I mean,
I think that frankly, even with the peace deal that
we saw, you know, negotiated this week in the return
of the hostages, the live hostages and some of the
(23:08):
deceased or the remains of some of the deceased hostages,
very few Democrats up here have said much nice about
much about President Trump. I mean, it's like, give the
guy his due. I mean, give him his due and
go back and criticize them whatever you want. The other
thing that you haven't seen up here is that all
of the peace demonstrators, you know, who wanted peace now
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and all of where are they. They're gone, They're disappeared.
It's the thin air. It's like they were apparitions.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
I got a good idea, Dan, you want to.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Hear it, I'll give it a shot.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
Go ahead, Okay, Hey Dan, they are to somebody at
a start. Okay, an organization called students to go to
Gaza and rebuild Gaza. And they had to go to
all the campuses, you know, and sign up students.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Good luck with that, Yeah, good luck with that.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
I'm saying. I'm saying that was that would show that
would show there are two colors. But the other thing
is this all right as far as as far as
Markey and and Seth Moulten. Okay, if Seth Moulten loses, okay,
it's gonna be it's gonna be bad for a Democrat
party and it's gonna be good for the Republican Party
because the Republican is gonna go around to say, look
(24:23):
what happened up in Massachusetts. You know the old guy
up there. One it's still the old guys, you know,
rule and uh and uh, and a moderate got beat
Seth Maulten got beat.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, I think that's considered. I think that Molten probably will.
We'll try to tack to the left, but I think
that institutionally he's a little more moderate than than a Marky.
Got to get one more in here before the break.
Thank you, Bill, talk soon. That's a great We have
a great one. Let me go to John down on
the cape all the way all the way out to Wellfleet. Hey, John, welcome,
How are you Dan?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I'm doing great, Just trying to get a sense of
what people are thinking today. This a big story. And yeah,
the Ed Markey race and Seth Molten stepping out. I mean,
this is he's a Ed Markey beat Joe Kennedy. Can
he do it again? We'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Well, uh, from my perspective that I'm speaking as somebody
who I guess if I had to describe myself in
a nutshell, i'd call myself a somewhat less leading libertarian.
I'm enrolled as far as my registration goes, so you
can vote on the Democrats and you could vote in whichever.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
There'll be no republic I don't think there's a Republican primary,
but you'll be able to vote in the Democratic primary
if you want.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I'm planning, planning to do that.
I serve on a select board out here, and both
Marquy and our Congressman Bill Keating have both been absolutely
stellar in helping us with projects and concerns that involved
(25:58):
in the federal government, particularly of the Army Corps of Engineers,
for example, a very tough to deal with federal agency,
and I do plan to and as far as policy goes,
I regard both of them necess fairly far left. I
(26:19):
am a very strong Second Amendment guy. Neither one of
them is, uh, is someone I would consider pro Second Amendment.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And it sounds to me like you're going to lean
towards Markey because Markey has now again Seth Molten wouldn't
have much impact as a congressman from the north Shore
down the Cape. But you're telling me that Marky was there.
Was Marky more supportive of your you folks on local
issues than Elizabeth.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Warren depending on the issue she was, Uh, Marky was
definitely more present than accounted for, for instance, on issues
surrounding such items as dredging in Harbor yep. And on
the other hand, Senator Warren, we have another major project
(27:11):
out here involving a salt marsh restoration, one of the
biggest ones in the country, and she's been proactive on
that in the past, but she's not really been a
player in the stuff I've been involved.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Okay, I'll ask you this question. In the last two years,
now you're you're an independent, but Jolean Democrat. In the
last two years, how many times has Ed Markey either
been in your town or been in touch with the
leadership of your town. And you're one of the leaders
versus that Versus Elizabeth Warren who's been more accessible.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
But they've both been out here since I've been on
the select Board over the last four and a half years.
I believe they've they've been out here once or twice
that I can think of.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Okay, so that's comparable. Okay, I could be wrong about that,
but might I know that? Uh so you're leading Let
me let me bring you back to I took you
down a rabbit hole with Warren, which is fine. Let
me pull you out of the rabbit hole. So you're
leaning towards supporting Markey despite his advanced age.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Definitely planning to support Marquee in this And yeah, as
far as my leanings, you know, if there was a
Republican who wasn't associated with Donald Trump and wasn't you know,
part of the radical ring of the wing of the
Republican Party, I might be inclined to support them.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Okay, I'm going to run one by you. Let's assume.
Let's assume that here you go. Let's assume Charlie Baker
decided to come back and run for the US Senate
against whoever won Moulten, the Markie. Does he have a
possibility of your vote? I'm going to say probably not.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
I would, I would, I would consider it, But there again.
You're talking about somebody who's basically barely lukewarm on issues
like the Second Amendment and uh never really was a
player out here.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
But if he's luke woman the second in member, if
you what.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I thought, he was a good governor, right, I would
definitely vote all right?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Interesting analysis. All right, Hey, thanks very much, John. I
know I've heard from him before. I'd love to hear
from you more often because I think you might be
one of these weather vane voters in the Democratic Party
who's going to give a lot of thought to this
and whoever you decide on will be the Democratic primary
winner in my in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Let me let me part with this thought, which is,
if the Democrats want to start winning elections, they need
to leave the guns alone.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
Good luck with that thought, thanks, Jean. I have a
good one, OK, take it easy, all right. I got
Ken and Waltam on the other side. We're going to
talk to Ken and I got room for you. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten, thirty six seven nine, we'll be back.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
We'll wrap it up. On the other side.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
You're on night side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you
Boston's News radio.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
All right, let me go to my friend Kenon Waltham.
Ken is a Democrat. Ken, I'm going to be fascinated
to see what you think about this race.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Go right ahead, Ken, Well, I definitely supported Kennedy six
years ago. I'll support moment for sure.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Really, Okay, I'm around. So is there a question of
age in your mind?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Well, I think that's a factor. I think if there
are policies who were reversed, I'd support Marquie. But I
think Malton was just more mainstream and would be more relevant.
And I can tell you kind of a quick funny
story that to me epitomizes it all. Is. You know,
before Mark Esper was Secretary of Defense, and before he
(30:41):
was Secretary of the Army, he was vice president of
government relations at Raytheon. I was in some meetings with
him and heard some presentations in that because I was
a long time Raytheon employee. And at one point somebody
asked him this was right after Elizabeth Warren got a
and you could tell by the questioner's voice that he
(31:02):
was taking a shot at Elizabeth Warren saying, like, you know,
what does she like to deal with? What's her right?
And and Esper said, oh, she gets it. She understands us,
she recognizes us, you know how important we are in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Kind of I questioned Esper's judgment on that, but go ahead.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Well I'm thinking, boy, what a politician this guy is, right,
And but then without a beat he finished and kind
of almost half under the breath, he said, you know
it's Ed Markey who wants absolutely nothing to do with us,
And yeah, yeah, that's and to me that that kind
(31:44):
of I mean, I just see Marky Moore on the
Fringes and Malton that's.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Interesting, more interesting. Yeah, you know, Marky's been around so
long and he's a first of all, I like both
Molten and Marky personally. Okay, I want to make that
very clear. Okay, I get along with with each of them.
I hope to have both of them on my show
and so they can talk to my audience. Uh, and
(32:12):
we'll see. You know, you know, Moulton's been on before,
Marky's been on before. I would be I would be
totally fair to both of them because I think they're
very similar. To be really honest with you, I think
the other the age is the big difference. Uh. And
some will argue, well, you know, Marky's age and his
experience is important, and others will argue, h Moulton's age
(32:33):
and his his his youthful, his youth are equally important.
I don't know who do you think will win this
this nomination? You know what if it if it turns
out to just to be Moulten versus Markey. You're a Democrat.
You saw what happened to Joe Kennedy. I was stunned
that that Markie stood in there and then handled Kennedy
(32:53):
Kennedy as easily as he did. Even though you're a
Molten supporter, this is going to be a tough fight
for Maulten.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, oh yeah, I think he's taking a big risk.
I don't know, I don't know the answer. You know,
when Moulton was born, right, Marky was already a congressman,
so he has been around a long time.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Well that, yeah, Multon Moulton said that in his in
his opening remarks today he did. Yeah, he made the point.
I mean, Moulton's only forty six years old, mark He's
been in Congress now for almost fifty years.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
You know, I'd like to hear one of these guys
say something like, you know, why should I you know,
why improve any budget at this point. I mean, you know,
Trump is just gonna anytime he wants, He just throws
an executive order out there, and just cuts whatever funding
we pass, you know, for for our you know, particular project.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Then he ends up in a fight in the courts.
I mean, he can, he can, he can, you know,
he can sign executive orders. But whether or not they
hold is another another question.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Well, let me ask you this, who do you who?
You're You're a rational Democrat. I'm looking at this and
I'm thinking to myself. The Democrats are basically saying, if
I understand it correctly, look, we will go with the
continuing Resolution as long as you capitulate on three or
four things that we want right now. And the Republicans
are saying, let's just open it up and have more
negotiations and let's let's keep everything where it is. The
(34:21):
Democrats are voting against it, and the Republicans are voting
to open the government. Am I wrong on that? Ken?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Nope, Nope, you're not. But I think you know my
view when uh, you know, when Trump killed you or
you know, must did it, but Trump didn't didn't stand
his way. But when he killed the USA and the
CFPB and these programs that you know Congress voted in.
(34:52):
I mean I that would be the last time I
would vote for any budget.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I mean, Ken, I'm flat up against it. We got
a good conversation. We got almost five We did get
five minutes, which is great, and I'm glad there was
nobody breathing down you neck. And we will talk soon.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Okay, very good, Thanks Jim.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Thanks so much, Ken. Done for the night, done for
the eating. I want to thank all the callers, particularly
the new callers would call tonight. I want to thank Rob.
I want to thank Marita. I thought we had a
really interesting show between Boston's coffee culture and the moulten
Marky Race. That's what Nightside's all about. And with the
except only one person walked the plank tonight, as we
would have expected, Bob. Anyway, Bob can keep calling, He'll
(35:33):
keep walking the plank. All dogs, all cats, all pets
go to heaven. That's Mike pal Charlie Raves, who passed
fifteen years ago in February. That's what all your pets
are who have passed. They loved you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. Hope to see you.
Get Tomorrow Night on Nightside. We will have Nightside postgame
on Facebook with Nightside with Dan Ray In just a
couple of minutes, be there with B Square. Have a
great Thursday, everybody, see Tomorrow Night.
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