June 26, 2025 • 38 mins
Have you noticed when you now go to your local pharmacy or department store some of the products you need are locked up thus inconveniencing you to track down an associate to retrieve that item? MA Congressman Jake Auchincloss is pointing to Democrats and how he believes they need to improve their quality-of-life violations to “save the party”, going as far as saying, “every time a customer has to ask the CVS clerk to unlock the shampoo, Democrats get less popular,”. Echoing Rep. Auchincloss’ concerns, Boston Globe opinion writer Carine Hajjar wrote a piece reporting on a shift in the Democratic Party that could scare away a big chunk of their base, working class voters. We discussed.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Costin's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, everybody, welcome on back. So last hour we
had I thought a really interesting conversation with Boston Globe
opinion writer and also a member of the Globe's editorial board,
which is a group of very influential people at the
Globe who determine the editorial positions at the Globe. And
many of the editorial positions are non ideological, by the way,
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But following on our conversation with Karin Hashar about the
successful campaign of this Democratic socialist, Zoran Mandami, and if
you're a democratic socialist, you know, please do what you
can to support this guy. That's your right, and I
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commend you on it. I just think that as he
becomes a major figure in the Democratic Party at the
age of thirty three, there's going to be a lot
of people across the country in states that are very
uncharacteristically are absolutely totally different from New York, who are
going to react with a lot of concern about the
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direction of the Democratic Party. We had earlier this week
Sean O'Brien, president of the Teamster's Union. They chose not
to endorse. He represents one point three million union members.
And when you take the one point three union members
and you amplify that with the spouses, the friends, the
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family members, the relatives of those union members, you're talking
about a significant number of voters. Not to say that
they all voted one way or the other, but union
leaders are not to be underestimated. So in addition to
our conversation with Kareem Heshar of the Boston Globe, there
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was an article in the Herald today which, as I
think most of you know, when I do the program
and we put the program together during the day, sometimes
we try to mix and match stories that, if not
compliment one another, are kind of related to one another.
It's almost like matching a wine with a dinner. You know,
you go to a restaurant and you ask the waiter, gee,
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I'm having beef or I'm having fish or chicken or whatever,
and they will then say, well, i'd suggest this or
suggest that. So piece by Lance Reynolds in the Boston
Herald today. Lance is someone who I know is pretty
very good writer. So he talked with Massachusetts Congressman Jake Auchincloss. Now,
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Jake Auchenclaus I think has a future in the Democratic
Party here in Massachusetts. He's young, like Seth Moulton, he's
a veteran and they're both young, and they both served.
And this is at a time when people were not
being drafted, didn't have to serve, didn't have to sign up.
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So Argen Class has laid out some concerns and according
to the article, he is tired of having to ask
CBS clerks and whether you're talking about Walgreens, CVS, whatever
drug store you whatever pharmacy you go to, whatever drug
store or convenience store you go to, to unlock products,
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pointing out how he believes Democrats need to police to
improve their policing of quality of life violations to save
the party. Now that's interesting theory. What does he mean
by that? He's laid out five ways. And by the way,
we will have we have a commitment from Congressman Argenclaus's
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office to have him join us either Monday, Tuesday, or
Wednesday next week and talk about this. We were trying
to get him on tonight, but he was committed elsewhere
Democratic mayors. This is Jake archinclass talking about Democratic mayors
can improve education, affordability and Lauren Order including a suggestion,
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quoting now from Lance Reynolds piece, that the Democratic Party
take a different approach to addressing quote, degradations to public
order unquote. He implifies on that drug use, loitering, hanhandling, encampments,
think about mass and casts, vandalism, shoplifting, those compound into lawlessness.
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According to a blog that the congressman put up on
his website Tuesday night, quote, there's nothing compassionate or progressive
about permitting them unquote. He goes on to day in
I think every time a customer has to ask the
CVS clerk. There are a lot of cvs is in
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his district, so it could be any any one of
these stores, Walgreens or whatever. To unlock the shampoo. Democrats
get less popular. Aarcking class added, policing high public standards
can create positive feedback loops for law in order. He
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was reacting specifically to the mayor o primary that the
numbers that started to commit on Tuesday night, this individual,
Zorron Mendani, the thirty three year old Democratic Socialist, had
declared victory.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So again, this is this is this is a Massachusetts
congressman reacting to the to the election results in New
York City Mendami if he defeats incumbent Eric Adams in November,
has said hit look to create a network of city
run grocery stores.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh, that's a swell idea. That's a swell idea. This
idea has caught back lists from business owners and customers.
This is what Lance Reynolds writes, running big cities. Well,
we're now back to Arkan Class is a vital way
for Democrats to earn back voters trust after the catastrophic
school closures and increase in crime. Violent and property crime
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are the most important to prevent, the base day congressman said,
but degregations to public order also matter. Arcan Class sparked
criticism earlier this year when he actually had the audacity
to vote for the Lake and Riley Act, The bill,
named after the twenty two year old Georgia nursing student
murdered by an illegal immigrant, change federal law to require
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ICE to detain and deport I legal immigrants who commit burglary, theft, larcening,
and shoplifting. Arkan Class set in a statement at the
time that the bill undermines the constitution without improving out
a security. Shoplifting remains prevalent in Massachusetts. I'm confused by
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that statement that Reynolds has attributed to auchen Class here
that we'll ask auchen Class about that Hayden's approach. Then
he talks about Kevin Hayden, the district attorney in Souffolk County,
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who I don't think is that a great job, by
the way, but that's well, we'll talk about that. He's
probably an improvement over Rachel Rollins. So the point is this,
have you recently gone into a store and wanted and
I have and wanted to buy a product and you
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realize that the product, and in some cases there's like
a couple of tubes of toothpaste maybe worth fifteen bucks,
is under lock and key. Now, maybe not where you live,
but maybe where poor people live, because I think that
there's more of this petty theft of vandalism, which puts
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mom and pop stars out of business, by the way,
in communities.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And it's primarily in democratic cities. And these are the
issues that the Democrats have not paid attention to. And
I think that Jake Arkinclaus Congressman Arking Class is calling
their attention to these these situations because these are quality
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of life issues that affect people. Look, there's a lot
of quality of life issues dealing with the price of gasoline,
which is still down, grocery store items which not as
bad as maybe most people thought. Are there some items
that have gone up? Yeah, but the items that have
gone up to the items that I walk by. I
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don't need to buy these expensive cookies anymore. I can
stick with my oreos. Okay, you want to charge me
eight dollars for a box of cookies or a bag
of cookies, not me, not me. So I'd love to
know what your experience. Do you agree with Congress Bannakin
class I do, And as a matter of fact, I
have more respect for him because he is taking a
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position within his party that is going to be criticized
by some in his party. He is basically putting a
stake in the ground and saying, hey, we're going in
the wrong direction. We're sliding off to the extreme left,
and we are not expressing and showing sufficient concern for
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the vast majority of people who just are simply looking
to live their lives, go to work, pay their taxes,
raise their kids, and maybe get a couple of weeks
vacation in the summertime, and that is what the Democrats,
in my opinion, have forgotten about. And that's why Donald Trump,
who I have plenty of criticism with in terms of
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stylistically and in some cases the way he's handled issues.
Although some of his issues, I think he's done a
good job. And I will give him credit when he's right,
and I'll criticize him when he's wrong, just as I
will criticize Democrats, and when they're right. As Jake Auchenclaus
is right, I will say good for you, Jake Auchenclaus,
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because you're bringing your party back to where most Americans,
where most Democrats really want to be. And also, by
the way, forget the Democrats and the Republicans. Races in
America now are determined by people who have no affiliation
with either party. They are the independents, the unenrolled. I'm
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unenrolled in Massachusetts with the equivalent of being independent. The
vast majority of voters in Massachusetts are neither Democrat nor Republican.
I think the Republicans have about eleven percent, the Democrats
have about thirty percent. The vast majority in Massachusetts are unenrolled.
But as an unenrolled voter When I hear someone like
Jake Auchincloss make these comments or Seth Molten makes these comments,
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I will say, hey, there's still hope for the Democratic Party.
There's still hope for a two party system in America,
which we need, just like we need a two party
system in Massachusetts. These are familiar themes to Nightside. Whether
you agree to disagree, bring it on six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six, one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty
will be back on Nightside right after a brief commercial break.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
If you're on Nightside with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So comments that Democratic Congressman Jake uchenclass made about quality
of life issues, and I think he is spot on
whether you are a Democrat, Republican, or an independent. I'd
love to hear your reaction to his observations, because I
do think that it's the little things in life. If
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you read again the article today by Kareein Hajar in
The Boston Globe, she talked about riding the subways in
New York City and having been exposed literally to virtually
everything you could imagine. I mean, it's it's quality of
life issues, quality of life issues that if people, if
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the Democrats can't run big cities effectively and allow people
to feel safe, and and and and there will be stores.
And this is what aucken class is talking about. I
joined the conversation. I got some wide open lines here.
I think he's hit upon a nerve. And if you've
ever been in this situation where you go into a
store and you have to find something that's under lock
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and key, and I have done that at a Target store,
I can remember, and I think it was I forget
it was some small item I was looking for for
some reason, uh maybe because it was small and people
were walking out the door with it. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
At eleven o'clock, we're going to change topics and we're
going to talk about the Pentagon News conference today with
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General Dan Kane, which I think has left uh pretty
strong impressions. Bill is in Pennsylvania. Bill, welcome next on
Nightsacer right ahead.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, Dan, I've seen I didn't know Jake Arkincloss. Is
he Massachusetts government?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I mean congressman, Yeah, from he's actually from what we
call the fourth Congressional district, which is uh A, Newton
in Brookline, which are two of the more affluent suburbs
of Boston, and runs down to the uh to the
southeast corner of the state.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I know, I know the other seth Moulton.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I know.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
I think both of them are Marines, right.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Uh yeah, Milton is up in the northeast corner of
the state, up bordering New Hampshire in the up you
know the state Salem, New Salem, Massachusetts and cities.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Well I I yeah, I've seen them both on TV.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I honor them for their for their uh military uh
uh stay in the military. But I can tell you, uh,
these two gentlemen right here, Okay. One thing I hope
that when you have them on, if you ask him,
can you give me can you show me one time okay,
when when Biden had his open border policy, the Democrats
had their open border policy. Jake, show me one time, okay,
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one tweet anything that that you said, we have an
open border, okay, and we need to take care of
the open border because this this stuff about Now where
I live, I don't have to worry about, you know,
stuff being locked up, Dan, But if I go down
to Harrisburg into Harrisburg Central. Okay, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania be in
our capital over here if I go into if I
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go in there and uh, and then then that's the
case in certain parts of it of Harrisburg.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Okay, So let me ask you that. Let me ask
you here's a question. Okay, who I don't know who
the mayor of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania is. I suspect you probably do.
Is that mayor a Democrat or a Republican?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
It's been Democrats forever, Dan, It's a sanctuary. It's one
of Pennsylvania sanctuary city.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
See, there's a commonality here. And by the way, my
attitude is when someone agrees with you on an issue,
it's better to create that relationship as opposed to immediately saying,
well we might agree on that, but there was another
couple of issues you didn't do enough on. I just
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think that it's always smarter to it's always smarted to
try to build alliances than to blow up bridges.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I agree with I agree with that. But this open
border policy for for four years under Biden, Dan, that
that was one of the big, big, big problems.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And but they need to be asked, you have listened
to my show a lot. How much did I? I
used to go after President Biden on open borders. Uh
and and Mariorcas, who was a total disgrace. I don't
know if Mariorcas was running the government on that policy
or if he thought that's what Joe Biden wanted. I
don't think Joe Biden if he was really compassment this
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for the entire four years with a lot of that's happened,
that's led that led directly to Donald Trump's election. I mean,
that was the greatest gift the Democrats ever could have
given to Donald Trump. It wasn't a gift that it
gave to to America, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Yeah, and and and the impeachments and also the indictments.
But listen, I totally agree with you. Okay, Well, I
listen to your show almost every night. But you know
you've gone after, You've gone after these people. But these
young these young congressmen need to ask me, asked these questions,
and I would ask one other question. I would ask
these both of them. Okay, well you endorse Adams, Okay,
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ask him.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So I think that's now that is a very legitimate question.
That is a very legitimate question, and it's it's a
relevant question because I believe that auchen Class, as this
article suggests, posted on his website Tuesday night, and I
think that he that that is what caused him to
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post that, and I will ask him that we expect
to talk with Congressman Auchen Class. I believe e the Monday,
Tuesday or Wednesday, Okay.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yes, and and and I remember a few months ago
Dan Seth Moulten okay, came out and said how bad, uh,
you know, how bad mentally Joe Biden was. But it
was it was after Joe Biden dropped out that Seth
Maulten said that you can go back and look at that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And I agree, But here's the deal. What wait second,
hold on for a second. If you're trying to build
a bridge to someone, Look, there were Republicans who stuck
loyally to President Reagan. Now I never felt that that
Reagan was anywhere near nearly as diminished as Biden was
in his second term, but they were a lot of
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Democrats who were saying, well, you know, Reagan's going to
sleep and Reagan's doing this, and Reagan I thought Reagan
had two really good terms as president. I think Joe
Biden had a disastrous term and there was only his
first term, which is why he didn't get a second term.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Well, Igan, Reagan didn't have an open border policy and
then left it didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
No, Bill, Bill, you're missing my point. What I'm saying
is many of the same Democrats who were questioning Ronald
Reagan's capacity, his intellectual capacity. He was seventy years old
when he finished as president. Okay, he was. He was
a young man compared to what Joe Biden and Donald
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Trump are. Donald Trump is at the top of his
game intellectually. You might disagree with everything the guy says,
but he goes out in handles press conferences. Joe Biden
couldn't do that. Joe Biden was was past his prime,
past his prime. But I will deal with that. We
will die. We will deal with that next week. Again,
don't get lost in your loyalty to the Republicans or
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the Trump because I've got to keep them all. Honest, Bill,
That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
No, no, no, I agree, I agree with you, and
I would ask I would ask both of these gentlemen, Okay,
are you gonna are you gonna get out of the
Democrat Party because the Democrats Party is going that.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's a bridge builder, right there. Sure, you're a United
States congress from Democratic Party. That's one. That's a question
that that if I'm a Democrat, I can't absolutely I'm
gonna join. I'm gonna join I don't know, but I'm
gonna join something else. I'm gonna throw away my eight
years and ten years Bill, Bill, you you're making my job.
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First of all, I can't believe you're asking me those
questions because all you're doing is you're It's it's like
when someone has said to you. Have you ever had
like a name who's come over to you and said, hey, Bill,
you know, I might have been a little out of
line when I made that comment to you the other night. Normally,
you know, if we were talking about the pirates or something,
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you know whatever, Uh, what do you say? I mean
at that point? Generally, if you're a gentleman, you're gonna say, hey,
no big deal, you know whatever, Or you could say, well,
you know, there's a few other things I want to
throw in your face too. Come on, Bill, you're better
than that, all right. I gotta go.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
No I'm not like that, but listen, I did well.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Maybe not in your personal life, but tonight just sound
like I want to go in for the gill. I
want to.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I want to the politicians. The politicians get to.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Me, Dan, but obviously got a life, Get a life.
Keep calling this show, but get a life. Okay. The
only line is six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
We're coming back right after this.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
If you're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
By the way, just a quick follow up to Bill's
stupid question. And it was a stupid question. There are
people of every category who are racist, okay, but hopefully
as time goes by, fewer and fewer, the vast majority
of people are not racists. And do I have a
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couple of callers who I feel happy to be black
and a racist? Yeah, okay, but I got white callers
who are how I have my suspicions about. But the
vast majority of people of all backgrounds, of all colors
have come to understand that racism is a sin. Okay,
It's America's original sin. Okay. And people need to understand
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you don't judge people by the color of their skin.
You judge them, as Martin Luther King said, by the
content of their character. And Bill, I don't know where
that question came from, but I think it was insulting.
It was beneath me, and very disappointed that you would
even ask me the question, because it makes me think
that maybe maybe you had some sort of an ulterior motive.
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And I'm very disappointed in the quality of that call.
I tried to explain to you rationally, Bill, but you
were irrational tonight, and I'm tired of irrationality amongst my callers.
Nick is in Winchester, Nick, welcome you. And next on Nightside, Hey, Dan,
how are you, buddy? Well, I hope you're going to
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be a better caller than Bill. Was a better point.
Go right ahead.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
No, absolutely, I'm full fledged independent, but I concur with
you and the democratic gentleman from New York. I can't
agree enough. I mean, especially today with everything going on,
you know, we need a little bit more stability in
the more we get, the I think the better off
people are going to be.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah. Well again, I was pleased when I read this
article this morning, and the Hero by Lance Reynolds has
comments that Jake Cochinhaus, a Democratic congressman here from Massachusetts
made I just think that both parties, the Democrats and
the Republicans, better beware of the extremists in their and
the wings of their party because those extremists are alienating
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independent voters like you and me. Exactly, And that's that's
the premise of my argument here. And uh, you know,
when you have somebody who's going to become maybe mayor
of New York City, Uh, and you realize that, uh,
he has made comments about infatada, the infitata should be global.
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That's frightening. Yeah. And again, a lot of these students
for justice in Palestine. I want justice for everyone, but exactly,
you know the same people who are who are yelling,
you know, from the from the river to the sea.
I know what that means. I'm not stupid. I know
exactly what that means. Yeah, and that means obliterate and
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get rid of Israel. And yeah, you know, if you
don't learn from her history, you're doing to repeat it.
So have you had talk let's lighten it up a
little bit. Have you had the experience of walking into
a you know, a store and wanting to buy, purchase
a product and realize the product is locked up and
you have to get an open the product.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Several times, Walmart target CBS a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
And I understand that I do.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
This haidening because I don't know if it's because of
location or it's just it's fair.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well, I assume that most of these stores have suffered
some you know, some loss to to people who feel
they can go in and do a five finger discount
and put something in their pocket. But and I also
know that a lot of the lawyers have told stores
that they should instruct the employees that even if they
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see someone stealing something, you know, let them go, and
because they're concerned about liability issues. But I have a
friend of mine who has a liquor store in you know,
in West roxby a package store, and he's had kids
coming in there and just grabbing anything they can grab.
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And you can't. You can't run a business like that.
The margin on any business is not great. And if
you're running a madego in a in a poorer community,
which makes products available to people who might not have
cars and don't want to travel on the tee, you're
providing a service to that community. You should be celebrated
in that community for providing that service, not not become
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the victim of crimes. You know.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Yeah, it's sad. I see it all the time. I
saw her two weeks ago at Walmont, I caught two kids. No, no, no,
it's okay, yep, I saw I see it at market basket.
The gentleman just just this past weekend loaded up as
backpack would meet. So I'm went up front pill the manager. Yeah,
but we really we didn't see him. I'm like, okay, buddy, Yeah,
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that goes on like that. You know, you lose two, three, four,
five whatever, it is, one hundred dollars a day. By
the end of the week, they're gonna fail, you know
that four or five hundreds now three thousand.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, Well what the lawyers have told them, okay, and
I'm a lawyer. The lawyers have said, look, you're greater
concerned his liability. So if you went up to that
guy and said, hey, could you open up your.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Backpack, it turns into a safety issue.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well, there's a safety issue. But then also the guy
that why I just happen to commit there and I
have a backpack, and now what are you accusing me of?
And at that point, he's going to get a lawyer.
They're going to find a lawsuit against market Basket, and
the market Basket is going to say, look, you know,
let's pay them a hundred thousand dollars and get rid
of this case.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, yeah, we don't want to. We don't want them
back on both fity.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, it's crazy. And what happens is we all pay
for it because whatever the pilfordge loss is on any
of these stores, it's all going to get passed on
to us. Ye, Nick, thank you for restoring my faith
in my callers.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Oh I'm back. I've had a little sabbatical, but I'm
back and I'm always grateful to hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Write back at you look forward to your next call. Thanks, Thanks, Thanks,
good night. I got to keep rolling here. Okay, not
going to tie people. I'm going to go to Jeff
and Abington. Jeff, You're next time. That side.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Well, No, I don't think there was a stupid question
at all.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, I thought it was a really stupid question.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
I upset about it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, why do you think it wasn't a stupid question?
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Tell me, because you try to play the try to
take a strong stand on a fence all the time.
You when you you always have to play it both ways?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
How am I playing it both ways?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Well, every time you will say, well, I agree that
both saw. I have to have to get them people
in all.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Well, let's let me tell you what I said. In
case you misunderstood what I said.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
What I said was Democrats are evil people.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
The evil that's what you think. Huh, that's what you think.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Well, well, I don't know how you determine that. But congratulations,
you're you're a right wing wack a doodle. So rob,
get the bent, get get the plank you like to swim,
Have a good night. The Democrats are evil people? What
do you kid me? You don't what gives you the
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right to make that comment? The Democrats are evil people?
Six one thirty six one seven. We'll be back on
Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
All right, let's keep rolling here. I'm gonna go next
to Ira in Brookline. Irah, welcome you next time. Thank you,
thank you for calling in. Go ahead, Ira.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
Yes, a couple of things. I agree very much with
a lot of things you were saying. And I've also
had some of the experiences you mentioned really For example,
there's a CBS which is on the bookline Alston Border.
I would hardly call that a bad neighborhood. And yet
the Clareton is locked up?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Is that is that on what Washington Street?
Speaker 9 (29:28):
Not on Harvard Street, North Harvard?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Okay, I know where that is now? Yeah, okay, know
where it is?
Speaker 9 (29:33):
Yeah, and Clarton's locked up over there or restaurant depot.
Restaurant depot has the pure of an extract locked up.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Huh. I'm not familiar with restaurant depot, but yeah, I
think that Clarenon is something that some people I believe
you have to almost at this point. There's some of
those anti histaments that people have used. They buy them
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in quantity and they somehow get high or something like that.
So that might be a different a reason, to be
honest with you, maybe someone better than me on this,
but I know that a couple of times stuff that
used to be over the counter, you could buy it,
take it off the shelf. I think you have to
show identification so that you can you can buy it,
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but they want to make sure you're not buying five
or six packages within a period of a day or
so if.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
I didn't have to, I wasn't as identification.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, all right, well could be wrong in that, but
I do know that someone out there will know someone
of who has a pharmalogical background or know it better
than me. But there was one of those products that
they were like separating. They were opening the capsules and
they were then they were crushing it was it was
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a druggie. It's a druggy issue. But when the stuff
like toothpaste or shampoo, you know, a couple they why
is that stuff locked up fifteen bucks?
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Is you're right the five million discount? But you were
also talking about Jake Augenklous, who is of course my congressman,
being a bookline. Sure, for the most part, I would
say ogen class has been pretty good. I have to
say for the most part, because even though you say better,
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we should focus on the good and not play gotcha
on the ones that they that we disagree on. At
the same time, I don't want to give anybody a
free pass when they've done something that we don't agree with.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I agree with you on that. I agree on that.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Yeah, Now, I remember a couple of years back, you
remember that famous January sixth Select Committee in Congress. Sure,
and Nancy Pelosi kicked off a few of the people
who the Republicans want to put on that committy. So
the Republicans played tick for tat and they kicked off somebody,
(32:09):
a Democrat from the House Foreign Relations Committee. Now it
wasn't only a matter of revenge or payback. This particular
person was Washib Talib, who has made very anti American
comments and of course course poems is real too. And
there was a vote as to whether or not she
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should stay in the committee. It happened to Republicans were
in the majority, so they got their way, but the Democrats,
every one of them, voted to keep her on. And
with all due respect to Congress and Roman class, if
he really wants to be independent of the party line,
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that's a particular issue I think he should have been.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Was he on that committee?
Speaker 9 (32:57):
No? But the point is this was no.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I said no. What I'm saying is he could he?
You know again, I guess what I was trying to
say to Bill in Pennsylvania. It was if someone who
you disagree with politically, it takes a position that that
that you now agree with, it's better to try to
(33:23):
build an alliance in a bridge, as opposed to saying, okay,
well you agree with me on that, but how come
Europe you don't agree with me on that. It's sometimes
if you can, it's it's better to have you know
someone even you build a bridge on a friendship on
a friendship. I mean, if I'm a United States congressman
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and I take one hundred votes a year or whatever,
and you and I agree on ninety eight percent of
the votes, and there's two that we disagree on, well,
that's a pretty good percentage. I mean someone was quoted
as saying, and I think that I forget who it was,
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that that if on twelve out of twelve votes, if
on nine out of twelve votes you agree with someone,
support them, But if it's twelve out of twelve votes,
see a psychiatrist. I mean, you know, that's that's a
pretty good line, I think. And the idea is that,
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you know, it's in countries around the world that we
don't particularly like where everybody has to agree. You look
at Israel, for example, there's a country that is under
is under siege. It's been under siege for seventy seven
years since it was founded in mayor forty eight, and
yet you have a very strong parliamentary system there with
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you have you know, Labor and La Coute and all
of these other minority parties, and they have to put
together a coalition government. Yeah, it's you gotta I mean,
you got it. At some point realized everyone's not going
to agree with you on everything. And I don't expect
that here on nightside either. But I get frustrated by
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some of the callers who can't stay focused on what
we're talking about.
Speaker 9 (35:16):
Well, I can I understand your point. I could appreciate it,
but again, which items you disagree on A quality one,
especially there where the respect Congressman oakin class has a
very large Jewish constituency. I happen to be Jewish, by
(35:38):
the way, that has very large Jewish constituency, and that
to leave is just a red flag. That's an issue
that sticking the call.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
No, I hear you, No, I do I understand the point.
If he was on the committee and chose and voted
to keep her on the committee, he's more open to criticism.
I think the fact that he's just a member of
Congress and not in that committee, he can be asked
about it. And I don't know what he would have
said at the time. I have no idea, but I'm
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not going to necessarily bring that up with him. And
we talked to him next next week. Yeah, at that point,
it's like if we invite him to come on and
talk about subject why and then all of a sudden,
where as you know, Bill wanted me to ask him
about so many other subjects. Anyway, you're a rational guy.
You got to call my show more often. Okay.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
I have called a couple of times. If you have
another minute or two, I'm sorry that I missed. I
tried calling. I just missed when you had that Boss
Globe columbistone because I checked just about all the boxes
that you were talking about. I was born in Brooklyn,
I lived there as a young man. I am Jewish.
(36:54):
I'm also the former a former political editor of the
Brooklyn Daily Bolton and my sons live in the heart
of the Jewish community in Bumba Park.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Well, you know, we'll have her. We'll have her on again,
and I please be you know, we we had lines available,
so there's no reason if the lines were packed. From
the moment she got on, I'd say, gee, you know
what time are you trying to call?
Speaker 9 (37:17):
I would ask I called late because I was in
the car.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I appreciate that, but but here's the thing. Call early.
I got to get one more call in here.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
Okay, okay, Rank here.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Thank you, I thank you much appreciate it. Mike, we're
tied on time. I'll give you about a minute.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Go ahead, yeah quickly.
Speaker 10 (37:34):
I know. Yeah, a rough night tonight, and listen to it. Anyway,
the locking up stuff like that, I think it's still
the Castle's vale system. Dan delimited, the people that cl
ims go quickly slap on the wrists, not prosecuting on
I know in New York there's a nine hundred and
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nine hundred dollars lending with all that they well.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
They've raised, they've raised, Yeah, they've raised the limits here.
That's a good point you've made here in Boston. Remember
when Rachel Rawlins came into office, she said that they
were not going to prosecute theft of whatever the figure was,
eight hundred dollars or something. You can steal a lot
of a lot of candy bars, and you can steal
a lot of uh packages of toothpaste, toobs of toothpaste,
(38:20):
and shampoo before you get to eight hundred dollars. And
if if they're not going to prosecute it, then what
are the store rods supposed to do. It's a dilemma, Mike,
great point. Thanks, I'm glad you get out. Here comes
the eleven, we'll be back. We're going to talk about
the news conference today that was conducted by the Chairman
of the Joint chiefs of Staff, General Dan Kane. Interesting.
(38:43):
I hope you'll stick with us.
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Costin's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, everybody, welcome on back. So last hour we
had I thought a really interesting conversation with Boston Globe
opinion writer and also a member of the Globe's editorial board,
which is a group of very influential people at the
Globe who determine the editorial positions at the Globe. And
many of the editorial positions are non ideological, by the way,
(00:29):
But following on our conversation with Karin Hashar about the
successful campaign of this Democratic socialist, Zoran Mandami, and if
you're a democratic socialist, you know, please do what you
can to support this guy. That's your right, and I
(00:51):
commend you on it. I just think that as he
becomes a major figure in the Democratic Party at the
age of thirty three, there's going to be a lot
of people across the country in states that are very
uncharacteristically are absolutely totally different from New York, who are
going to react with a lot of concern about the
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direction of the Democratic Party. We had earlier this week
Sean O'Brien, president of the Teamster's Union. They chose not
to endorse. He represents one point three million union members.
And when you take the one point three union members
and you amplify that with the spouses, the friends, the
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family members, the relatives of those union members, you're talking
about a significant number of voters. Not to say that
they all voted one way or the other, but union
leaders are not to be underestimated. So in addition to
our conversation with Kareem Heshar of the Boston Globe, there
(02:03):
was an article in the Herald today which, as I
think most of you know, when I do the program
and we put the program together during the day, sometimes
we try to mix and match stories that, if not
compliment one another, are kind of related to one another.
It's almost like matching a wine with a dinner. You know,
you go to a restaurant and you ask the waiter, gee,
(02:25):
I'm having beef or I'm having fish or chicken or whatever,
and they will then say, well, i'd suggest this or
suggest that. So piece by Lance Reynolds in the Boston
Herald today. Lance is someone who I know is pretty
very good writer. So he talked with Massachusetts Congressman Jake Auchincloss. Now,
(02:46):
Jake Auchenclaus I think has a future in the Democratic
Party here in Massachusetts. He's young, like Seth Moulton, he's
a veteran and they're both young, and they both served.
And this is at a time when people were not
being drafted, didn't have to serve, didn't have to sign up.
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So Argen Class has laid out some concerns and according
to the article, he is tired of having to ask
CBS clerks and whether you're talking about Walgreens, CVS, whatever
drug store you whatever pharmacy you go to, whatever drug
store or convenience store you go to, to unlock products,
(03:31):
pointing out how he believes Democrats need to police to
improve their policing of quality of life violations to save
the party. Now that's interesting theory. What does he mean
by that? He's laid out five ways. And by the way,
we will have we have a commitment from Congressman Argenclaus's
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office to have him join us either Monday, Tuesday, or
Wednesday next week and talk about this. We were trying
to get him on tonight, but he was committed elsewhere
Democratic mayors. This is Jake archinclass talking about Democratic mayors
can improve education, affordability and Lauren Order including a suggestion,
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quoting now from Lance Reynolds piece, that the Democratic Party
take a different approach to addressing quote, degradations to public
order unquote. He implifies on that drug use, loitering, hanhandling, encampments,
think about mass and casts, vandalism, shoplifting, those compound into lawlessness.
(04:45):
According to a blog that the congressman put up on
his website Tuesday night, quote, there's nothing compassionate or progressive
about permitting them unquote. He goes on to day in
I think every time a customer has to ask the
CVS clerk. There are a lot of cvs is in
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his district, so it could be any any one of
these stores, Walgreens or whatever. To unlock the shampoo. Democrats
get less popular. Aarcking class added, policing high public standards
can create positive feedback loops for law in order. He
(05:28):
was reacting specifically to the mayor o primary that the
numbers that started to commit on Tuesday night, this individual,
Zorron Mendani, the thirty three year old Democratic Socialist, had
declared victory.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So again, this is this is this is a Massachusetts
congressman reacting to the to the election results in New
York City Mendami if he defeats incumbent Eric Adams in November,
has said hit look to create a network of city
run grocery stores.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh, that's a swell idea. That's a swell idea. This
idea has caught back lists from business owners and customers.
This is what Lance Reynolds writes, running big cities. Well,
we're now back to Arkan Class is a vital way
for Democrats to earn back voters trust after the catastrophic
school closures and increase in crime. Violent and property crime
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are the most important to prevent, the base day congressman said,
but degregations to public order also matter. Arcan Class sparked
criticism earlier this year when he actually had the audacity
to vote for the Lake and Riley Act, The bill,
named after the twenty two year old Georgia nursing student
murdered by an illegal immigrant, change federal law to require
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ICE to detain and deport I legal immigrants who commit burglary, theft, larcening,
and shoplifting. Arkan Class set in a statement at the
time that the bill undermines the constitution without improving out
a security. Shoplifting remains prevalent in Massachusetts. I'm confused by
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that statement that Reynolds has attributed to auchen Class here
that we'll ask auchen Class about that Hayden's approach. Then
he talks about Kevin Hayden, the district attorney in Souffolk County,
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who I don't think is that a great job, by
the way, but that's well, we'll talk about that. He's
probably an improvement over Rachel Rollins. So the point is this,
have you recently gone into a store and wanted and
I have and wanted to buy a product and you
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realize that the product, and in some cases there's like
a couple of tubes of toothpaste maybe worth fifteen bucks,
is under lock and key. Now, maybe not where you live,
but maybe where poor people live, because I think that
there's more of this petty theft of vandalism, which puts
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mom and pop stars out of business, by the way,
in communities.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And it's primarily in democratic cities. And these are the
issues that the Democrats have not paid attention to. And
I think that Jake Arkinclaus Congressman Arking Class is calling
their attention to these these situations because these are quality
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of life issues that affect people. Look, there's a lot
of quality of life issues dealing with the price of gasoline,
which is still down, grocery store items which not as
bad as maybe most people thought. Are there some items
that have gone up? Yeah, but the items that have
gone up to the items that I walk by. I
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don't need to buy these expensive cookies anymore. I can
stick with my oreos. Okay, you want to charge me
eight dollars for a box of cookies or a bag
of cookies, not me, not me. So I'd love to
know what your experience. Do you agree with Congress Bannakin
class I do, And as a matter of fact, I
have more respect for him because he is taking a
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position within his party that is going to be criticized
by some in his party. He is basically putting a
stake in the ground and saying, hey, we're going in
the wrong direction. We're sliding off to the extreme left,
and we are not expressing and showing sufficient concern for
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the vast majority of people who just are simply looking
to live their lives, go to work, pay their taxes,
raise their kids, and maybe get a couple of weeks
vacation in the summertime, and that is what the Democrats,
in my opinion, have forgotten about. And that's why Donald Trump,
who I have plenty of criticism with in terms of
(10:10):
stylistically and in some cases the way he's handled issues.
Although some of his issues, I think he's done a
good job. And I will give him credit when he's right,
and I'll criticize him when he's wrong, just as I
will criticize Democrats, and when they're right. As Jake Auchenclaus
is right, I will say good for you, Jake Auchenclaus,
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because you're bringing your party back to where most Americans,
where most Democrats really want to be. And also, by
the way, forget the Democrats and the Republicans. Races in
America now are determined by people who have no affiliation
with either party. They are the independents, the unenrolled. I'm
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unenrolled in Massachusetts with the equivalent of being independent. The
vast majority of voters in Massachusetts are neither Democrat nor Republican.
I think the Republicans have about eleven percent, the Democrats
have about thirty percent. The vast majority in Massachusetts are unenrolled.
But as an unenrolled voter When I hear someone like
Jake Auchincloss make these comments or Seth Molten makes these comments,
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I will say, hey, there's still hope for the Democratic Party.
There's still hope for a two party system in America,
which we need, just like we need a two party
system in Massachusetts. These are familiar themes to Nightside. Whether
you agree to disagree, bring it on six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six, one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty
will be back on Nightside right after a brief commercial break.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
If you're on Nightside with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So comments that Democratic Congressman Jake uchenclass made about quality
of life issues, and I think he is spot on
whether you are a Democrat, Republican, or an independent. I'd
love to hear your reaction to his observations, because I
do think that it's the little things in life. If
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you read again the article today by Kareein Hajar in
The Boston Globe, she talked about riding the subways in
New York City and having been exposed literally to virtually
everything you could imagine. I mean, it's it's quality of
life issues, quality of life issues that if people, if
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the Democrats can't run big cities effectively and allow people
to feel safe, and and and and there will be stores.
And this is what aucken class is talking about. I
joined the conversation. I got some wide open lines here.
I think he's hit upon a nerve. And if you've
ever been in this situation where you go into a
store and you have to find something that's under lock
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and key, and I have done that at a Target store,
I can remember, and I think it was I forget
it was some small item I was looking for for
some reason, uh maybe because it was small and people
were walking out the door with it. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
At eleven o'clock, we're going to change topics and we're
going to talk about the Pentagon News conference today with
(13:14):
General Dan Kane, which I think has left uh pretty
strong impressions. Bill is in Pennsylvania. Bill, welcome next on
Nightsacer right ahead.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, Dan, I've seen I didn't know Jake Arkincloss. Is
he Massachusetts government?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I mean congressman, Yeah, from he's actually from what we
call the fourth Congressional district, which is uh A, Newton
in Brookline, which are two of the more affluent suburbs
of Boston, and runs down to the uh to the
southeast corner of the state.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I know, I know the other seth Moulton.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I know.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
I think both of them are Marines, right.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Uh yeah, Milton is up in the northeast corner of
the state, up bordering New Hampshire in the up you
know the state Salem, New Salem, Massachusetts and cities.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Well I I yeah, I've seen them both on TV.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I honor them for their for their uh military uh
uh stay in the military. But I can tell you, uh,
these two gentlemen right here, Okay. One thing I hope
that when you have them on, if you ask him,
can you give me can you show me one time okay,
when when Biden had his open border policy, the Democrats
had their open border policy. Jake, show me one time, okay,
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one tweet anything that that you said, we have an
open border, okay, and we need to take care of
the open border because this this stuff about Now where
I live, I don't have to worry about, you know,
stuff being locked up, Dan, But if I go down
to Harrisburg into Harrisburg Central. Okay, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania be in
our capital over here if I go into if I
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go in there and uh, and then then that's the
case in certain parts of it of Harrisburg.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Okay, So let me ask you that. Let me ask
you here's a question. Okay, who I don't know who
the mayor of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania is. I suspect you probably do.
Is that mayor a Democrat or a Republican?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
It's been Democrats forever, Dan, It's a sanctuary. It's one
of Pennsylvania sanctuary city.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
See, there's a commonality here. And by the way, my
attitude is when someone agrees with you on an issue,
it's better to create that relationship as opposed to immediately saying,
well we might agree on that, but there was another
couple of issues you didn't do enough on. I just
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think that it's always smarter to it's always smarted to
try to build alliances than to blow up bridges.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I agree with I agree with that. But this open
border policy for for four years under Biden, Dan, that
that was one of the big, big, big problems.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And but they need to be asked, you have listened
to my show a lot. How much did I? I
used to go after President Biden on open borders. Uh
and and Mariorcas, who was a total disgrace. I don't
know if Mariorcas was running the government on that policy
or if he thought that's what Joe Biden wanted. I
don't think Joe Biden if he was really compassment this
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for the entire four years with a lot of that's happened,
that's led that led directly to Donald Trump's election. I mean,
that was the greatest gift the Democrats ever could have
given to Donald Trump. It wasn't a gift that it
gave to to America, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Yeah, and and and the impeachments and also the indictments.
But listen, I totally agree with you. Okay, Well, I
listen to your show almost every night. But you know
you've gone after, You've gone after these people. But these
young these young congressmen need to ask me, asked these questions,
and I would ask one other question. I would ask
these both of them. Okay, well you endorse Adams, Okay,
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ask him.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So I think that's now that is a very legitimate question.
That is a very legitimate question, and it's it's a
relevant question because I believe that auchen Class, as this
article suggests, posted on his website Tuesday night, and I
think that he that that is what caused him to
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post that, and I will ask him that we expect
to talk with Congressman Auchen Class. I believe e the Monday,
Tuesday or Wednesday, Okay.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yes, and and and I remember a few months ago
Dan Seth Moulten okay, came out and said how bad, uh,
you know, how bad mentally Joe Biden was. But it
was it was after Joe Biden dropped out that Seth
Maulten said that you can go back and look at that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And I agree, But here's the deal. What wait second,
hold on for a second. If you're trying to build
a bridge to someone, Look, there were Republicans who stuck
loyally to President Reagan. Now I never felt that that
Reagan was anywhere near nearly as diminished as Biden was
in his second term, but they were a lot of
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Democrats who were saying, well, you know, Reagan's going to
sleep and Reagan's doing this, and Reagan I thought Reagan
had two really good terms as president. I think Joe
Biden had a disastrous term and there was only his
first term, which is why he didn't get a second term.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Well, Igan, Reagan didn't have an open border policy and
then left it didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
No, Bill, Bill, you're missing my point. What I'm saying
is many of the same Democrats who were questioning Ronald
Reagan's capacity, his intellectual capacity. He was seventy years old
when he finished as president. Okay, he was. He was
a young man compared to what Joe Biden and Donald
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Trump are. Donald Trump is at the top of his
game intellectually. You might disagree with everything the guy says,
but he goes out in handles press conferences. Joe Biden
couldn't do that. Joe Biden was was past his prime,
past his prime. But I will deal with that. We
will die. We will deal with that next week. Again,
don't get lost in your loyalty to the Republicans or
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the Trump because I've got to keep them all. Honest, Bill,
That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
No, no, no, I agree, I agree with you, and
I would ask I would ask both of these gentlemen, Okay,
are you gonna are you gonna get out of the
Democrat Party because the Democrats Party is going that.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's a bridge builder, right there. Sure, you're a United
States congress from Democratic Party. That's one. That's a question
that that if I'm a Democrat, I can't absolutely I'm
gonna join. I'm gonna join I don't know, but I'm
gonna join something else. I'm gonna throw away my eight
years and ten years Bill, Bill, you you're making my job.
(19:48):
First of all, I can't believe you're asking me those
questions because all you're doing is you're It's it's like
when someone has said to you. Have you ever had
like a name who's come over to you and said, hey, Bill,
you know, I might have been a little out of
line when I made that comment to you the other night. Normally,
you know, if we were talking about the pirates or something,
(20:09):
you know whatever, Uh, what do you say? I mean
at that point? Generally, if you're a gentleman, you're gonna say, hey,
no big deal, you know whatever, Or you could say, well,
you know, there's a few other things I want to
throw in your face too. Come on, Bill, you're better
than that, all right. I gotta go.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
No I'm not like that, but listen, I did well.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Maybe not in your personal life, but tonight just sound
like I want to go in for the gill. I
want to.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I want to the politicians. The politicians get to.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Me, Dan, but obviously got a life, Get a life.
Keep calling this show, but get a life. Okay. The
only line is six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
We're coming back right after this.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
If you're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
By the way, just a quick follow up to Bill's
stupid question. And it was a stupid question. There are
people of every category who are racist, okay, but hopefully
as time goes by, fewer and fewer, the vast majority
of people are not racists. And do I have a
(21:20):
couple of callers who I feel happy to be black
and a racist? Yeah, okay, but I got white callers
who are how I have my suspicions about. But the
vast majority of people of all backgrounds, of all colors
have come to understand that racism is a sin. Okay,
It's America's original sin. Okay. And people need to understand
(21:45):
you don't judge people by the color of their skin.
You judge them, as Martin Luther King said, by the
content of their character. And Bill, I don't know where
that question came from, but I think it was insulting.
It was beneath me, and very disappointed that you would
even ask me the question, because it makes me think
that maybe maybe you had some sort of an ulterior motive.
(22:07):
And I'm very disappointed in the quality of that call.
I tried to explain to you rationally, Bill, but you
were irrational tonight, and I'm tired of irrationality amongst my callers.
Nick is in Winchester, Nick, welcome you. And next on Nightside, Hey, Dan,
how are you, buddy? Well, I hope you're going to
(22:28):
be a better caller than Bill. Was a better point.
Go right ahead.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
No, absolutely, I'm full fledged independent, but I concur with
you and the democratic gentleman from New York. I can't
agree enough. I mean, especially today with everything going on,
you know, we need a little bit more stability in
the more we get, the I think the better off
people are going to be.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah. Well again, I was pleased when I read this
article this morning, and the Hero by Lance Reynolds has
comments that Jake Cochinhaus, a Democratic congressman here from Massachusetts
made I just think that both parties, the Democrats and
the Republicans, better beware of the extremists in their and
the wings of their party because those extremists are alienating
(23:18):
independent voters like you and me. Exactly, And that's that's
the premise of my argument here. And uh, you know,
when you have somebody who's going to become maybe mayor
of New York City, Uh, and you realize that, uh,
he has made comments about infatada, the infitata should be global.
(23:44):
That's frightening. Yeah. And again, a lot of these students
for justice in Palestine. I want justice for everyone, but exactly,
you know the same people who are who are yelling,
you know, from the from the river to the sea.
I know what that means. I'm not stupid. I know
exactly what that means. Yeah, and that means obliterate and
(24:05):
get rid of Israel. And yeah, you know, if you
don't learn from her history, you're doing to repeat it.
So have you had talk let's lighten it up a
little bit. Have you had the experience of walking into
a you know, a store and wanting to buy, purchase
a product and realize the product is locked up and
you have to get an open the product.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Several times, Walmart target CBS a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
And I understand that I do.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
This haidening because I don't know if it's because of
location or it's just it's fair.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well, I assume that most of these stores have suffered
some you know, some loss to to people who feel
they can go in and do a five finger discount
and put something in their pocket. But and I also
know that a lot of the lawyers have told stores
that they should instruct the employees that even if they
(25:03):
see someone stealing something, you know, let them go, and
because they're concerned about liability issues. But I have a
friend of mine who has a liquor store in you know,
in West roxby a package store, and he's had kids
coming in there and just grabbing anything they can grab.
(25:23):
And you can't. You can't run a business like that.
The margin on any business is not great. And if
you're running a madego in a in a poorer community,
which makes products available to people who might not have
cars and don't want to travel on the tee, you're
providing a service to that community. You should be celebrated
in that community for providing that service, not not become
(25:49):
the victim of crimes. You know.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Yeah, it's sad. I see it all the time. I
saw her two weeks ago at Walmont, I caught two kids. No, no, no,
it's okay, yep, I saw I see it at market basket.
The gentleman just just this past weekend loaded up as
backpack would meet. So I'm went up front pill the manager. Yeah,
but we really we didn't see him. I'm like, okay, buddy, Yeah,
(26:15):
that goes on like that. You know, you lose two, three, four,
five whatever, it is, one hundred dollars a day. By
the end of the week, they're gonna fail, you know
that four or five hundreds now three thousand.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, Well what the lawyers have told them, okay, and
I'm a lawyer. The lawyers have said, look, you're greater
concerned his liability. So if you went up to that
guy and said, hey, could you open up your.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Backpack, it turns into a safety issue.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well, there's a safety issue. But then also the guy
that why I just happen to commit there and I
have a backpack, and now what are you accusing me of?
And at that point, he's going to get a lawyer.
They're going to find a lawsuit against market Basket, and
the market Basket is going to say, look, you know,
let's pay them a hundred thousand dollars and get rid
of this case.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, yeah, we don't want to. We don't want them
back on both fity.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, it's crazy. And what happens is we all pay
for it because whatever the pilfordge loss is on any
of these stores, it's all going to get passed on
to us. Ye, Nick, thank you for restoring my faith
in my callers.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Oh I'm back. I've had a little sabbatical, but I'm
back and I'm always grateful to hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Write back at you look forward to your next call. Thanks, Thanks, Thanks,
good night. I got to keep rolling here. Okay, not
going to tie people. I'm going to go to Jeff
and Abington. Jeff, You're next time. That side.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Well, No, I don't think there was a stupid question
at all.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, I thought it was a really stupid question.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
I upset about it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, why do you think it wasn't a stupid question?
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Tell me, because you try to play the try to
take a strong stand on a fence all the time.
You when you you always have to play it both ways?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
How am I playing it both ways?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Well, every time you will say, well, I agree that
both saw. I have to have to get them people
in all.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Well, let's let me tell you what I said. In
case you misunderstood what I said.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
What I said was Democrats are evil people.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
The evil that's what you think. Huh, that's what you think.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Well, well, I don't know how you determine that. But congratulations,
you're you're a right wing wack a doodle. So rob,
get the bent, get get the plank you like to swim,
Have a good night. The Democrats are evil people? What
do you kid me? You don't what gives you the
(28:34):
right to make that comment? The Democrats are evil people?
Six one thirty six one seven. We'll be back on
Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
All right, let's keep rolling here. I'm gonna go next
to Ira in Brookline. Irah, welcome you next time. Thank you,
thank you for calling in. Go ahead, Ira.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
Yes, a couple of things. I agree very much with
a lot of things you were saying. And I've also
had some of the experiences you mentioned really For example,
there's a CBS which is on the bookline Alston Border.
I would hardly call that a bad neighborhood. And yet
the Clareton is locked up?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Is that is that on what Washington Street?
Speaker 9 (29:28):
Not on Harvard Street, North Harvard?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Okay, I know where that is now? Yeah, okay, know
where it is?
Speaker 9 (29:33):
Yeah, and Clarton's locked up over there or restaurant depot.
Restaurant depot has the pure of an extract locked up.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Huh. I'm not familiar with restaurant depot, but yeah, I
think that Clarenon is something that some people I believe
you have to almost at this point. There's some of
those anti histaments that people have used. They buy them
(30:03):
in quantity and they somehow get high or something like that.
So that might be a different a reason, to be
honest with you, maybe someone better than me on this,
but I know that a couple of times stuff that
used to be over the counter, you could buy it,
take it off the shelf. I think you have to
show identification so that you can you can buy it,
(30:27):
but they want to make sure you're not buying five
or six packages within a period of a day or
so if.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
I didn't have to, I wasn't as identification.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, all right, well could be wrong in that, but
I do know that someone out there will know someone
of who has a pharmalogical background or know it better
than me. But there was one of those products that
they were like separating. They were opening the capsules and
they were then they were crushing it was it was
(30:58):
a druggie. It's a druggy issue. But when the stuff
like toothpaste or shampoo, you know, a couple they why
is that stuff locked up fifteen bucks?
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Is you're right the five million discount? But you were
also talking about Jake Augenklous, who is of course my congressman,
being a bookline. Sure, for the most part, I would
say ogen class has been pretty good. I have to
say for the most part, because even though you say better,
(31:31):
we should focus on the good and not play gotcha
on the ones that they that we disagree on. At
the same time, I don't want to give anybody a
free pass when they've done something that we don't agree with.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I agree with you on that. I agree on that.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Yeah, Now, I remember a couple of years back, you
remember that famous January sixth Select Committee in Congress. Sure,
and Nancy Pelosi kicked off a few of the people
who the Republicans want to put on that committy. So
the Republicans played tick for tat and they kicked off somebody,
(32:09):
a Democrat from the House Foreign Relations Committee. Now it
wasn't only a matter of revenge or payback. This particular
person was Washib Talib, who has made very anti American
comments and of course course poems is real too. And
there was a vote as to whether or not she
(32:31):
should stay in the committee. It happened to Republicans were
in the majority, so they got their way, but the Democrats,
every one of them, voted to keep her on. And
with all due respect to Congress and Roman class, if
he really wants to be independent of the party line,
(32:51):
that's a particular issue I think he should have been.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Was he on that committee?
Speaker 9 (32:57):
No? But the point is this was no.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I said no. What I'm saying is he could he?
You know again, I guess what I was trying to
say to Bill in Pennsylvania. It was if someone who
you disagree with politically, it takes a position that that
that you now agree with, it's better to try to
(33:23):
build an alliance in a bridge, as opposed to saying, okay,
well you agree with me on that, but how come
Europe you don't agree with me on that. It's sometimes
if you can, it's it's better to have you know
someone even you build a bridge on a friendship on
a friendship. I mean, if I'm a United States congressman
(33:45):
and I take one hundred votes a year or whatever,
and you and I agree on ninety eight percent of
the votes, and there's two that we disagree on, well,
that's a pretty good percentage. I mean someone was quoted
as saying, and I think that I forget who it was,
(34:06):
that that if on twelve out of twelve votes, if
on nine out of twelve votes you agree with someone,
support them, But if it's twelve out of twelve votes,
see a psychiatrist. I mean, you know, that's that's a
pretty good line, I think. And the idea is that,
(34:28):
you know, it's in countries around the world that we
don't particularly like where everybody has to agree. You look
at Israel, for example, there's a country that is under
is under siege. It's been under siege for seventy seven
years since it was founded in mayor forty eight, and
yet you have a very strong parliamentary system there with
(34:49):
you have you know, Labor and La Coute and all
of these other minority parties, and they have to put
together a coalition government. Yeah, it's you gotta I mean,
you got it. At some point realized everyone's not going
to agree with you on everything. And I don't expect
that here on nightside either. But I get frustrated by
(35:13):
some of the callers who can't stay focused on what
we're talking about.
Speaker 9 (35:16):
Well, I can I understand your point. I could appreciate it,
but again, which items you disagree on A quality one,
especially there where the respect Congressman oakin class has a
very large Jewish constituency. I happen to be Jewish, by
(35:38):
the way, that has very large Jewish constituency, and that
to leave is just a red flag. That's an issue
that sticking the call.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
No, I hear you, No, I do I understand the point.
If he was on the committee and chose and voted
to keep her on the committee, he's more open to criticism.
I think the fact that he's just a member of
Congress and not in that committee, he can be asked
about it. And I don't know what he would have
said at the time. I have no idea, but I'm
(36:11):
not going to necessarily bring that up with him. And
we talked to him next next week. Yeah, at that point,
it's like if we invite him to come on and
talk about subject why and then all of a sudden,
where as you know, Bill wanted me to ask him
about so many other subjects. Anyway, you're a rational guy.
You got to call my show more often. Okay.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
I have called a couple of times. If you have
another minute or two, I'm sorry that I missed. I
tried calling. I just missed when you had that Boss
Globe columbistone because I checked just about all the boxes
that you were talking about. I was born in Brooklyn,
I lived there as a young man. I am Jewish.
(36:54):
I'm also the former a former political editor of the
Brooklyn Daily Bolton and my sons live in the heart
of the Jewish community in Bumba Park.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Well, you know, we'll have her. We'll have her on again,
and I please be you know, we we had lines available,
so there's no reason if the lines were packed. From
the moment she got on, I'd say, gee, you know
what time are you trying to call?
Speaker 9 (37:17):
I would ask I called late because I was in
the car.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I appreciate that, but but here's the thing. Call early.
I got to get one more call in here.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
Okay, okay, Rank here.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Thank you, I thank you much appreciate it. Mike, we're
tied on time. I'll give you about a minute.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Go ahead, yeah quickly.
Speaker 10 (37:34):
I know. Yeah, a rough night tonight, and listen to it. Anyway,
the locking up stuff like that, I think it's still
the Castle's vale system. Dan delimited, the people that cl
ims go quickly slap on the wrists, not prosecuting on
I know in New York there's a nine hundred and
(37:57):
nine hundred dollars lending with all that they well.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
They've raised, they've raised, Yeah, they've raised the limits here.
That's a good point you've made here in Boston. Remember
when Rachel Rawlins came into office, she said that they
were not going to prosecute theft of whatever the figure was,
eight hundred dollars or something. You can steal a lot
of a lot of candy bars, and you can steal
a lot of uh packages of toothpaste, toobs of toothpaste,
(38:20):
and shampoo before you get to eight hundred dollars. And
if if they're not going to prosecute it, then what
are the store rods supposed to do. It's a dilemma, Mike,
great point. Thanks, I'm glad you get out. Here comes
the eleven, we'll be back. We're going to talk about
the news conference today that was conducted by the Chairman
of the Joint chiefs of Staff, General Dan Kane. Interesting.
(38:43):
I hope you'll stick with us.
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