June 4, 2025 • 37 mins
U.S. Attorney for Massachusetts Leah Foley released a video Wednesday condemning comments that Boston Mayor Michelle Wu made during a recent interview where she said people are “getting snatched off the street by secret police” offering “no justification.” Foley took aim with Wu calling ICE agents “secret police,” calling the characterization “offensive” and stating, “there are no secret police. ICE agents, along with other federal law enforcement partners, are making immigration arrests. That is no secret.” The U.S. AG went on to say they will not apologize for doing their job. Dan shared his thoughts on the narrative of ICE operations in MA.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY Boston's news video.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, I think all of us have watched the immigration
battle open up on a lot of fronts, And just
to put this into a little bit of historical perspective,
I think there are two viewpoints within this country towards
what I call illegal immigration and what others will call
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I guess call it by a different name. But in
the last four years during the Biden administration, there are
a lot of people who were able to come across
the border.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Most of them were coming across for all the right.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Reasons, but very few of them are going through the
process correctly which they were supposed to comply with. So
we now have millions of people in the country who
we don't know. And that was a big issue in
the last presidential elections, in which Donald Trump beat Vice
Resident Harris And although Donald Trump says it was a landslide,
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it was a close election. He won all of the
battleground states but didn't win them. The overall vote was
about fifty plus to forty nine plus. The difference was
a couple of million votes, not again landslide, but it's
an issue that I think most Americans feel something needs
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to be done, and in the first few months of
the Trump administration, we've had some very interesting broadsides fired
from one side or to the other. It doesn't seem
to be much of an area of agreement. I think
that there is a general agreement amongst most people who
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are within the great middle in America, who say, Yeah,
let's get the bad people. Let's get the rapists and
the murderers, the child pornographers, and the people who are.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Bringing fentanyl into the country. Let's get them out. Let's
close the border, let's tighten up the border.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I think there's a consensus on that, and I think
that on that issue, the Trump administration is trying to
do their best.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
In some cases, I have criticized the Trump administration because
some of the arrests seem to me to be a
little premature. I want to see all the gang members.
I want to see Trente Daraguara, I want to see
MS thirteen. I want to see all the real bad
people who have come into this country for no good purpose.
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I want them gone, and I like them gone yesterday,
and I think most of you would agree with that. However,
there are also a lot of people who are here
who potentially have come here for the right reasons. And
so therefore one group focuses on the very bad actors
who are here, and the other group focuses upon the
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eighteen year old student from Milford who was picked up
when they were really looking for his dad, or the
the tough's graduate student who's arrested by the the ICE agents.
And you have again politicians on both sides, uh, basically
trying to get the public to focus, to basically frame
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the issue as they want now. Uh, Mayor Wu has
become a target of the Trump administration, and Boston has
become a target of the Trump administration and of the.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The Director of Ice, Director.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Homan, and Mayor Wu in her state at the City address,
I guess it was actually in March earlier this year.
She sort of threw down the gauntlet here.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And uh, this just gives you a little bit of
the tone of Mayor Wu in early March here in Boston,
in the State of the city addressed. This is cutting
number thirty five.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Please, Rob, we stand with immigrants. You belong here, so
almost want to see that, then, miguerants, Boston doesn't back down.
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We are a city where the Irish coffee is strong
and our opinions are stronger. We may not always agree
or see eye to eye, but at the end of
the day, we are a family. If you come for
one of us, you will get all of us.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well. On that point, she's dead wrong. Okay, she's dead wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
She does not distinguish between people who are coming here
out of desperation and people who are coming here as desperadoes.
Meaning when she says, if you come for one of us,
does that refer to the child rapist who's here illegally?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Do we all stand with that person? I hope not.
I hope not.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
She was questioned by a congresswoman from South Carolina about
that very point, and when she appeared in Congress back
in February, she kind of had to answer questions direct
questions from Congresswoman Nancy Mace cut number thirty four.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Please Rob mayor Wu, I have a last couple questions
for you. Do you believe that ICE arresting a child
rapist quote threatens everyone's safety?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
End quote?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yes, sir, No no? Does Ice arresting a murderous MS
thirteen game member threaten everyone's safety?
Speaker 7 (05:51):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Or no?
Speaker 7 (05:51):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I would like to hold up this quote of you
where you say ICE's efforts actually threaten the safety of
every one.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
End quote.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Boston Mayor Michelle Will, you're a hypocrite.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Tough language from Mace, who's a Republican. Now, the mayor
has gone on to make some very interesting comments about
ICE officers, and they have drawn the attention of US
Attorney Leah Foley, who's a very impressive United States attorney.
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Normally US attorneys stay away from this sort of a fray,
but I think she is fed up with some of
the rhetoric from Mayor Wu, and I think she's fed
up with the lack of cooperation. Boston Police are willing
to provide federal agents here who are trying to I
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would hope rid the city of people who are here
for the wrong reasons. So now the the new US attorney,
she's been in office for I guess a couple of months.
Lea Foley released a video this morning. The video actually
runs in its entirety, but just a minute and fifty
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one seconds, but it's pretty powerful. We've cut it into
three segments, and I want to play those three segments,
starting off with some comments that again, this is the
United States attorney. For those of you who are not lawyers,
the US Attorney is separate and apart from the Attorney general.
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The Attorney General in Massachusetts is the head of law
enforcement in Massachusetts. The United States Attorney is the chief prosecutor.
And it's a very busy and a very important office,
and they prosecute lots of people, sometimes even politicians from
both sides of the aisle. This is the US Attorney
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the first third of her comments this morning, let us
go to cut thirty three A rob.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
During a recent interview, Boston's Mayor Michelle wou made reckless
and inflammatory statements regarding enforcement efforts made by federal immigration
authorities across the Commonwealth. Referring to federal agents as quote
secret police is offensive.
Speaker 9 (08:17):
There are no secret police.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Ice agents, along with other federal law enforcement partners.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
Are making immigration arrests. That is no secret.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
They are arresting individuals who are here illegally, which is
a violation of federal law. Every enforcement action is conducted
within the bounds of the Constitution and our laws, with oversight,
legal justification, and accountability. To claim otherwise is a gross
misrepresentation and a disservice.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
To the public.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Now, I don't think that Mayor is going to take
back the comments that she made. But the language used
by the US Attorney LEA. Foley and inflammatory, I can't
disagree with that. I just can't disagree with that because
there are bad people out there who would take that
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language that the mayor used as if not permission or
maybe maybe permission at minimum, license to perhaps due harm
to these people who they may have described as reckless
and inflammatory. The US Attorney Leo Foley from Massachusetts continues
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in Cut thirty three b rob.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Federal agents in marked jackets and vests are masking their
faces because people like Mayor WU have created false narratives.
Speaker 9 (09:41):
About their mission.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Federal agents and their children are being threatened, docks and assaulted.
Speaker 9 (09:49):
That is why they must hide their faces.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Furthermore, suggesting that federal law enforcement officers are quote snatching people.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Off the streets is also false.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
It's offensive to the men and women who risk their
lives every day to uphold the rule of law.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Again, what the US attorney is saying is that the
mayor has engaged in rhetoric which is not disciplined, and
I think she's correct. Last part of the comment released
today by the US Attorney Leo Foley, directed exactly precisely
at Mayor Will cut thirty three c rob.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
On the contrary, every arrest or detention is pursuant to
and sanctioned by federal law. The US Attorney's Office stands
in support of our federal law enforcement partners, whose mission
it is to protect.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
The residence of Massachusetts.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Regardless of the noise being generated by politicians who either
do not understand federal law or simply believe our nation's
immigration laws should not be in force.
Speaker 9 (10:52):
We will not apologize for doing our job.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So that we invited the US Attorney to join us tonight,
I didn't expect that she would. I think that statement
speaks for itself. So now my question from my audience
is this has taken the fight between the federal government
and Mayor Wu to another level. To some extent, it's
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going to work to the advantage of Mayor Wu in
her reelection bid here in Massachusetts, or rather in Boston,
excuse me, Boston, Massachusetts. But obviously the federal government feels
at this point that they have no other choice. And
again it's extraordinary. To the best of my knowledge, I
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have never heard or at least in Massachusetts. The District
of Massachusetts heard of the US Attorney releasing a prepared
statement for the purpose of calling on the carpet the
mayor of Boston or, in this case, a leading Democratic politician.
Here are the number six, one, seven, five, four, ten thirty,
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six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty or triple
eight nine two, nine, ten thirty. Question is very simple.
Who has the better of this argument? Uh, the US
Attorney Lea Foley or Boston Mayor Michelle Wu. I think
Wu's language is undisciplined, and I think she has made
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statements that she needs to apologize for. That's my thought.
I'd love to know what you think. And I thought
that the US Attorney today was particularly disciplined and very
specific in her language. She approached it very much as
a lawyer would, while Mayor Wu was speaking often either
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from a script or off hand, in using language that
a politician would. That's my analysis. I'd love to get
yours six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty, six
one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty back on Nightside
right after this.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on radio.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All right, so we have a the lines are drawn
here between Boston mayor and Michelle wou and the US
Attorney Lea Foley. Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
This is this is a real battle. Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And there may be some political implications in all of this,
as there often is.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But I want to know who you think is handling
it properly. Let me go first up to Frank in Boston. Frank,
you a first up this hour on nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Yay, both sides are right. We are in a war
that both sides and the war is being waged against
the United States of America and its constitution and its people.
Both sides need to talk. Both sides need to get
their opinions out there, and we need to fix this
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mess here. So to say that neither side should be talked,
neither side should be making that point, I think it
puts one side and a disadvantage. Don't lay down and
put your head in the sand because you're afraid of
the other side. You got to say something. You gotta
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do something. Both sides. They got to say something. They
gotta give us their point and give us an idea
of what direction they want this nation to go.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, I'll tell you this, I think that you could
not have a clearer indication of the position of both sides.
I think Michelle Wu has made it pretty clear if
you come for anyone in Boston, then they're gonna have
to deal with everyone in Boston. Those were paraphrasing her words.
And Leo Foley, the US Attorney, is upset with some
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of the language that Wu has directed towards these federal agents.
And you know what's happening is a lot of these
guys are getting docks. You know when they say docs,
do you know what that means? It's a it's a
term that's kind of a recent term. Somehow they will
get the name and the address of where these folks
live and they will put it up on websites, and
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some of them feel that that puts them and their
families in danger.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Uh, well, see that's the that's the that's the thing here.
I don't know what that term is, but I don't
see anything out there telling us that that is happening.
This administration has a tendency to lie, lie, lie lot.
So this for them to be saying that and we
ain't even seen it, I got it.
Speaker 8 (15:32):
This happened.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Well it is.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I can tell you this. I can tell you this.
It is a practice that has been used.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Uh yeah, but you've got to help.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You out, man. Let me help you out a little
bit here. It is a practice that has been used
against UH by primarily by the extremists on both sides
of the spectrum against the other side of the spectrum.
So doxing is a term that has been going on
for a while.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
As a matter of fact, there were the homes of
US Supreme Court justices, which for years and years and
years have been kept very confidential. Uh started to become
public record back oh six or seven of five or
six years ago. So doc saying is something that is done, okay,
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and it's not nice because it impacts family members. But
that is I'm not saying. I'm not saying either US
Attorney fully or mayor Woo were doing that. I'm not
saying that, but some people on different sides are.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So that's that's it.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
But that doesn't mean it's happened to these agents. There
have been instances, none that you explain that there have
been instances that have heard, but I haven't heard nothing
going against these agents.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Well, if I haven't a US attorney, I will tell
you this. If I have some knowledge of the U
S Attorney.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
And by the way, the US attorney is a large
enforcement prosecutor that is appointed by the president, whoever, whether
it's a Democratic president or Republican president. U S attorneys
have done a very good job here, with a couple
of exceptions during during my time appointees of both Democratic
and Republican presidents. There's a pretty high high standard, uh
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that that U S Attorneys comply with. And if Lea Foley,
as a US attorney is saying that there are federal
agents whose identifications and whose home addresses have been docked doxed,
I think you can take that to the bank. And
that's what And she was most concerned about, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I didn't mean to interrupt your go ahead, Frank, and
give you a final one.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
I don't. I don't think her work should be taken
as truth. I don't. I don't. I think she is compromised.
I think a lot of these officers that this administration
is appointed people to have been compromised.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
What I would suggest to you is I don't think
you know.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
You, I mean, are wet all we got, dude? Look
at the headstaff was the Defense Department? What's the name
and Human and health blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
But we can go on.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
A lot of them are unqualified, and they called.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The departments again, you probably have qualifications. And the next
time there's a Democrat, uh, look at, look at Frank.
I hope that next time when your point of view
prevails and takes the White House, and there will be
next time, I hope that you're nominated for one of
these positions, because obviously you're.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
I wouldn't motify it. I wouldn't want it because I'm
not qualified. I wouldn't want a position that I'm not
qualified for because it will mess that everything up. And
you got people's reputation, people's careers that you would affect.
I wouldn't even I would not do that on.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
My tell stuff. Thank you for being honest, Frank, I think.
But then, if do you know any let me ask
you this. Yeah, Frank, just let's have a little bit
of a conversation. Do you know anything about LEO qualifications?
Do you know anything about Pete haik Seth's qualifications? Do
you know where Pete Haikseth went to school? Do you
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know what his military uh involvement has been? What he
what he did as a member of the active military.
Do you know any of that or no? Are they
just names to you? Why did you do me this favor?
I'm going to challenge you. I'm going to shout, I'm
going to challenge you here, Frank, Okay, I'm going to
judge you. I want you to to get on your
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computer and check.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Out I don't have a computer.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
No, you do, you don't, I do not. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
We'll go to the library and use a computer and
check out Leofole's qualifications. Check out Pete has hagg Seth's qualifications.
They are eminently qualified for the positions that they're served.
With their serving, you might disagree with their positions, Frank.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
You well, I see.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
The only advantage I have, Frank, Frank, The only advantage
I have is I know what their qualifications are. I've
looked at their their their curricula VTAI, I've looked at
their resumes. I understand what their qualifications are. I think
if you go and you look at their qualifications, you
are still going to disagree with positions they take, but
you're you're not going to be criticizing their qualifications, is
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the point I'm trying to make.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Come on, I hate, I hate to confuse you with
facts and things like that, Frank, but I have no choice.
I got to run. I hit the newscast. Appreciate you call,
keep calling I low. Our conversations. Have a great one
coming back on Nightside right after the news at the
bottom of the hour. You know, folks, I'm not going
to sit here and allow people's qualifications to be dragged
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through the mud by people who haven't checked those qualifications out.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's as simple as that. Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Night Side with Dan Ray w BZ Boston's News.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
All right, I want to hear from some women on
this one because we have two leading political figures in
uh well, a federal prosecutor who's appointed by the Trump administration.
The federal prosecutors are appointed by the by the the
White House when you know when they they're elected, and
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of course the Democratic mayor of Boston. Let me go
to William, my friend William in Baltimore, Maryland. William, welcome,
How are.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You, sir?
Speaker 11 (21:35):
How's going man?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I'm doing just fine, doing just fine. What's your take
on all of this, William?
Speaker 11 (21:42):
No, I was listening to what you said, but I
remember when the mayor was that in Washington right back,
and I heard I listened to all that and her
and her and the mayor of Chicago, uh, and the
and the mayor of Denver.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Then yeah, Denver, Colorado with the three mayors who were
in the hot.
Speaker 11 (22:03):
Seat, right and uh, the man from New York, Eric Adams,
like so.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yes, that's right Adams was there as well. Yep, good,
good memory.
Speaker 11 (22:12):
And then right and then I remember he did a
show man about Uh. She brought all the like arcle
ride the twelve people there and cast for like three hundreds.
She got a law firm from out of Washington, DC.
It cost all that money.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's about six It was about six hundred. It was
about six hundred thousand dollars all.
Speaker 11 (22:29):
In, I believe, right, I couldn't believe it. You told
me that, and I looked it up for the computer,
and you definitely telling the cheap un believe it. But anyway,
I think Ms wool Uh, you know, I think she's wrong. Man,
Like you said, you're an attorney, you know, you know,
and and uh the lady I didn't. I don't know
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about her backfin, but I take your word for it
because you're an attorney, and.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, no she is.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
She is a very impressive background worked in driving practice,
and now she's a United States attorney and I'll tell
you she's fearless. She got out there today. I've never
seen a US attorney do what she did today. And
she basically stepped up and said she felt she had
to protect the officers in the field who were basically
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making the arrests that her office would would have to prosecute.
So you know, I I would want to I would
want to work for a leader like that, to be
really honest with you, Yes.
Speaker 11 (23:29):
And I think that Michelle Woo. But you know it's
going to come to a head. Well, I really think
it's going to come to a head and one of
these mayors is going to get arrested because uh and
I think Michelle Woo was the leading and she's a
lawyer like you, like you kind of let them go
before that. Lady graduated from Harvard, right.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah she was. Yeah, she's a Harvard Law school graduate.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I don't know that she practiced law, to be honest
with you, but I don't know she practiced any law.
She was a member of the city council and then
she ran ran from mayor, so I don't know that.
But but it doesn't it doesn't matter. She went to
law school. She has a law degree. I'm fine with
that her she has. She has an impressive set of credentials.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I'm not in any.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Way, shape or for I just don't want people like
the fellow before you Frank was was talking about their credentials.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
He's never looked at their credentials in like.
Speaker 11 (24:24):
You said, Peter blag with a mob and infumps.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
That is correct.
Speaker 11 (24:28):
I don't understand. I don't understand why people say that
these people are unqualified. I ain't like just learning when
I was. They've got a bunch of people, you know,
no kind of no kind of backbone like clarying Bondy,
I mean, the ladies a crosscut. I mean, come on, man,
I mean just because you don't like these people.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Like exactly, yeah, I mean yeah, It's like it's like, look,
I can root against the Yankees and root for the
Red Sox, but I can tell you I know that Judges,
Aaron Judges is a heck of a baseball player. You know,
we rooted, we rooted against Derek Jeter for years, but
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what a great you know player he was, and I
just think that's what sports teaches you and I you know,
it's the ignorant fan who would say, oh that Genie's
a bomb, he's a boom.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
You know, you never hit fifty. You know, we'd say
that's not always in his job was? You know?
Speaker 11 (25:23):
Anyway, he's just so so I mean, then, look, let
me say this to you about missus. Did I hear
her correctly? And I think was when one another lady
Nancy Mason's asking her, what are you thinking about the
wrestled wakes a child molester? She said that. She said no,
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she said no to her, No.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
No, no, what no what you know what she said no?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
What happened was, uh, Congresswoman May said, do you think
public safety is threatened when a child molester is arrested?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
And she said no.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So so she's basically agreeing and saying, Okay, arrest the murder,
arrest the child molester, but don't go out and then
make a speech. When you come for one, you're coming
for all of us. Because I don't want to be
associated with child molesters and murderers. You know, That's that's
what I think she was trying to.
Speaker 11 (26:18):
Say and I think the thing, you know, because I'm
just kind of will it's getting really, you know, everybody's.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Going, well, we had we had a democratic mayor up
here before Michelle Wou, Mardy Walsh, who was a strong
union guy, strong labor guy. He eventually ended up in
the in the cabinet of President Biden uh and is
now the player representative. He's that he represents the the
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NHL players union. Yeah right, but but he was great mayor,
great mayor, well in touch with the city. I gotta
tell you, I think if Bartie Walsh ever came back
and ran against Michelle Wou, Michelle Wu would have more
than than she could handle.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
In my in my opinion, could be gone. And there's
there's there's a candidate.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Up here, you know, Josh Kraft is running for mayor
in Boston, the son of Bob Craft, the owner of
the New England Patriots. So we'll see how it's how
that race, how this race, it doesn't doesn't. We'll get
settled to early early November. William, you'll have a you'll
have a front row seat here on night side.
Speaker 11 (27:30):
Okay, okay, And let me say this what man, just
like they was talking about what's his name, Don Robert Kennedy.
He's another qualified person, even though he got it chicking
back because there was a guy on the radio down
here and they calling to learn her on that. You know, well,
I don't think that was what but UH learned how
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the problems because I heard him, so he was in
he's in the coming again and he well, you.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Know, Marty Walsh had been an alcoholic. I have more
respect for people who have been able to confront one
of those demons and recover from it. I have a
friend of mine who I've talked about in the air
who have tremendous respect for He was dealing with heroin
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and and I knew him and uh and and I
spent a lot of time talking to him, and and
he eventually has got himself squared away. Uh and and
you have to you have to have tremendous respect for people.
It's like someone who gets sick and somehow is able
to get themselves on the road to recovery.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Look, you got to have respect for people like that. William.
You know I did not. I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
But but you've just gone up in my book. Actually,
you were pretty far up in my book anyway, William,
So you gotta go up much higher. All right, man,
we'll talk to him. Okay, Thanks, have a great one. Thanks,
moving back, coming right back here on night Side. I
got Mark, George, and Fred. I'm going to get them
all in before ten, and at ten my intention is
to switch topic, so we Mark, George and Fred. You
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stay right there, I'll get you and we'll be back
on night Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Okay, let's keep rolling here, going to go to Georgia
and Arlington. George, you are next time nights. I appreciate
your patience, George.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
Good evening, Dan, Thank George for doing this show.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Thanks.
Speaker 10 (29:29):
I agree with you that the majority of the federal
attorneys have been very high level, high achieving, very focused people.
And I also agree as you said that I think
the majority of the people in this country believe that
the criminals who are threats to us should be the
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ones that are being taken. Unfortunately, that's not what's been
happening here. We've seen people snatched off courts in front
of the court. We've seen e tear rolls. Uh, we've
seen grad students. There no threat to any of us. Uh,
if you and I are arrested, Dan, Uh, unless we've
got a gun in the middle of a creating, you know,
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doing a crime. We're gonna have somebody that has a badge,
that has a name on the badge of the uniform
and has an arrest war that's not happening.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, let me let me let me make this George,
Just so you know, I was very critical of the
arrest of the Tough's graduate student. I said it on
the air, so people know what I said. I do
tell I will tell you this. I thought that that
was and I said it at the time, horrific optics.
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And I you know, I read the op ed piece
that she wrote for the Tough newspaper and it was
it was pablem There was nothing in there that uh
that was offensive in my opinion. Do I think that
she's inclined favorably towards Palestinians, Yes, but I don't think
she should have been a I will tell you when
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she was arrested, because I've looked at the video many times,
the ice officers showed her a badge and identified themselves.
I could not hear them telling them telling her who
they were, but I could tell from the observation. They
stopped in front of her, held up the badge and
she was listening. And I'm sure they said we're Ice officers.
You're under arrest. I'm certain of that. Okay, So the
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eighteen year old kid, I think that that was a mistake.
Now is the kid here legally?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
No, he was not born here. He's not here legally.
They were looking for the father.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
They were looking for the father, and they I saw
the father did a video which was released.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
To the TV news stations.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I think the father should go down and say, hey, look,
you want me release my son. I would not be
sitting at home knowing my son was in some sort
of an ice detention center.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
You're right, and and what's what's happened here? You know? Man,
we certainly used rhetoric in a political speech and certainly went.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Over the line.
Speaker 10 (32:10):
There list a folly house, However, used rhetoric that was
just as serious, perhaps more damaging than that. The fact is, Dan,
we're democracy, We're America, United States of America. Uh No,
no tyrants, you know, no teams and law here.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You loaded You used a pretty loaded term there. Who's
the who's the gestapo?
Speaker 10 (32:35):
We're talking about the way these guys go out. It
dan taking people. The poor guy that that that that
actually was here legally down I think it was New Bedford.
They smashed the car windows. There's no need of that,
there's no need of the way that doesn't agree with you.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I agree with you, But the vast majority and and
mistakes should be corrected.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
There are people arrested in this country all the time
and charge incorrectly with crimes. Okay, you're talking to a
reporter who spent fifteen years trying to get four guys
out of prison who were intentionally and wrongfully convicted by
corrupt FBI agents.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I think you know that story. I don't.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
I hope I don't know that story.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, okay, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
They are mistakes, but there are mistakes. But there's a
lot of bad dudes out there, and they're not going
to go into those places dressed, you know, in bow ties,
bow ties and clown hats. They're they're going into some
situations they don't know what's on the other side of
the door.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
At at five o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
That's why I'm not arguing any of that, Dan, I'm
ideing what we're seeing of lee videos taken by people
on the street of the way things are being done.
And least the foling's apologize to that and stop it
or resigned. There's no need of doing going things where
they are, Dan. The administration lost Trump and the people
of Washington are now going after the Afghanistans who risk
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their lives, the state servicemen right.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Now.
Speaker 10 (34:10):
They want to them.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I guess what. That's a mistake. I will share with
you that.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Okay, I've agreed with you on a number, but that
doesn't mean I should not be out there trying to
get arrest the bad guys.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
That's all, and when I'm not, That's all what I'm saying.
At the beginning, I said, Okay, agreement, I.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Got George, I got two others. I'd like to sneak in.
Speaker 10 (34:33):
Voice my opinion to thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I always want your opinion, you know that, Okay, I
always want you. Thank you much.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay, let me try to get a couple in here
real quickly, Mark in New Hampshire, Mark you next on nights.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I go right ahead.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
Yeah, I mean this shouldn't have been no surprise to anyone.
Donald Trump, in the run up to the election in
November of last year, studied categorically that if he was elected,
the southern border would be closed and there would be
vast deportations. Yes, okay, all right, so and they and
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Tom Holman the borders are had Carrot had stated clearly
that they were going particularly hard at the so called
sanctuary states and the cities within those sanctuaries.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
That's absolutely correct, you're absolutely And by the way, by
the way, when President Obama was president of the United States,
he oversaw the deportation of three million people.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Well but so before before you're gonna leave me, I
just have to say that what Michelle Wu stated was
app was absolutely apprehensible to say.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
That think you mean, I think you meant reprehensible.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
I'm sorry, you're right. Reprehensible to state that set the
police were snatch people off the street. Michelle, this isn't
North Korea, this isn't Venezuela, this isn't Cuba. This is
the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Well, again, there have been some rest they have been
which remained, which in my opinion, go get the bad guys,
get the real bad armbres first and then.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Moved down.
Speaker 10 (36:35):
Still here, but when when the eighteen year.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Old high school student becomes the focus there, losing the
argument at that point, That's what.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
They wanted his. They wanted his old man.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I know I'm very familiar to case Mark.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'm up against it, and I gotta let you ride,
and I apologize for not giving you more time.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
To those in the line, I'm going to change topics.
Stay there if you want, but you you've called both
Matt and Ramon. You've called really late. I'm going to
change topics. I'm going to talk about the bromance between
Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Is it finally over? We'll be back on Night's side
after this
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY Boston's news video.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, I think all of us have watched the immigration
battle open up on a lot of fronts, And just
to put this into a little bit of historical perspective,
I think there are two viewpoints within this country towards
what I call illegal immigration and what others will call
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I guess call it by a different name. But in
the last four years during the Biden administration, there are
a lot of people who were able to come across
the border.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Most of them were coming across for all the right.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Reasons, but very few of them are going through the
process correctly which they were supposed to comply with. So
we now have millions of people in the country who
we don't know. And that was a big issue in
the last presidential elections, in which Donald Trump beat Vice
Resident Harris And although Donald Trump says it was a landslide,
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it was a close election. He won all of the
battleground states but didn't win them. The overall vote was
about fifty plus to forty nine plus. The difference was
a couple of million votes, not again landslide, but it's
an issue that I think most Americans feel something needs
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to be done, and in the first few months of
the Trump administration, we've had some very interesting broadsides fired
from one side or to the other. It doesn't seem
to be much of an area of agreement. I think
that there is a general agreement amongst most people who
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are within the great middle in America, who say, Yeah,
let's get the bad people. Let's get the rapists and
the murderers, the child pornographers, and the people who are.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Bringing fentanyl into the country. Let's get them out. Let's
close the border, let's tighten up the border.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I think there's a consensus on that, and I think
that on that issue, the Trump administration is trying to
do their best.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
In some cases, I have criticized the Trump administration because
some of the arrests seem to me to be a
little premature. I want to see all the gang members.
I want to see Trente Daraguara, I want to see
MS thirteen. I want to see all the real bad
people who have come into this country for no good purpose.
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I want them gone, and I like them gone yesterday,
and I think most of you would agree with that. However,
there are also a lot of people who are here
who potentially have come here for the right reasons. And
so therefore one group focuses on the very bad actors
who are here, and the other group focuses upon the
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eighteen year old student from Milford who was picked up
when they were really looking for his dad, or the
the tough's graduate student who's arrested by the the ICE agents.
And you have again politicians on both sides, uh, basically
trying to get the public to focus, to basically frame
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the issue as they want now. Uh, Mayor Wu has
become a target of the Trump administration, and Boston has
become a target of the Trump administration and of the.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The Director of Ice, Director.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Homan, and Mayor Wu in her state at the City address,
I guess it was actually in March earlier this year.
She sort of threw down the gauntlet here.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And uh, this just gives you a little bit of
the tone of Mayor Wu in early March here in Boston,
in the State of the city addressed. This is cutting
number thirty five.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Please, Rob, we stand with immigrants. You belong here, so
almost want to see that, then, miguerants, Boston doesn't back down.
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We are a city where the Irish coffee is strong
and our opinions are stronger. We may not always agree
or see eye to eye, but at the end of
the day, we are a family. If you come for
one of us, you will get all of us.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well. On that point, she's dead wrong. Okay, she's dead wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
She does not distinguish between people who are coming here
out of desperation and people who are coming here as desperadoes.
Meaning when she says, if you come for one of us,
does that refer to the child rapist who's here illegally?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Do we all stand with that person? I hope not.
I hope not.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
She was questioned by a congresswoman from South Carolina about
that very point, and when she appeared in Congress back
in February, she kind of had to answer questions direct
questions from Congresswoman Nancy Mace cut number thirty four.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Please Rob mayor Wu, I have a last couple questions
for you. Do you believe that ICE arresting a child
rapist quote threatens everyone's safety?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
End quote?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yes, sir, No no? Does Ice arresting a murderous MS
thirteen game member threaten everyone's safety?
Speaker 7 (05:51):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Or no?
Speaker 7 (05:51):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I would like to hold up this quote of you
where you say ICE's efforts actually threaten the safety of
every one.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
End quote.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Boston Mayor Michelle Will, you're a hypocrite.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Tough language from Mace, who's a Republican. Now, the mayor
has gone on to make some very interesting comments about
ICE officers, and they have drawn the attention of US
Attorney Leah Foley, who's a very impressive United States attorney.
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Normally US attorneys stay away from this sort of a fray,
but I think she is fed up with some of
the rhetoric from Mayor Wu, and I think she's fed
up with the lack of cooperation. Boston Police are willing
to provide federal agents here who are trying to I
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would hope rid the city of people who are here
for the wrong reasons. So now the the new US attorney,
she's been in office for I guess a couple of months.
Lea Foley released a video this morning. The video actually
runs in its entirety, but just a minute and fifty
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one seconds, but it's pretty powerful. We've cut it into
three segments, and I want to play those three segments,
starting off with some comments that again, this is the
United States attorney. For those of you who are not lawyers,
the US Attorney is separate and apart from the Attorney general.
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The Attorney General in Massachusetts is the head of law
enforcement in Massachusetts. The United States Attorney is the chief prosecutor.
And it's a very busy and a very important office,
and they prosecute lots of people, sometimes even politicians from
both sides of the aisle. This is the US Attorney
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the first third of her comments this morning, let us
go to cut thirty three A rob.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
During a recent interview, Boston's Mayor Michelle wou made reckless
and inflammatory statements regarding enforcement efforts made by federal immigration
authorities across the Commonwealth. Referring to federal agents as quote
secret police is offensive.
Speaker 9 (08:17):
There are no secret police.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Ice agents, along with other federal law enforcement partners.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
Are making immigration arrests. That is no secret.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
They are arresting individuals who are here illegally, which is
a violation of federal law. Every enforcement action is conducted
within the bounds of the Constitution and our laws, with oversight,
legal justification, and accountability. To claim otherwise is a gross
misrepresentation and a disservice.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
To the public.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Now, I don't think that Mayor is going to take
back the comments that she made. But the language used
by the US Attorney LEA. Foley and inflammatory, I can't
disagree with that. I just can't disagree with that because
there are bad people out there who would take that
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language that the mayor used as if not permission or
maybe maybe permission at minimum, license to perhaps due harm
to these people who they may have described as reckless
and inflammatory. The US Attorney Leo Foley from Massachusetts continues
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in Cut thirty three b rob.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Federal agents in marked jackets and vests are masking their
faces because people like Mayor WU have created false narratives.
Speaker 9 (09:41):
About their mission.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Federal agents and their children are being threatened, docks and assaulted.
Speaker 9 (09:49):
That is why they must hide their faces.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Furthermore, suggesting that federal law enforcement officers are quote snatching people.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Off the streets is also false.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
It's offensive to the men and women who risk their
lives every day to uphold the rule of law.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Again, what the US attorney is saying is that the
mayor has engaged in rhetoric which is not disciplined, and
I think she's correct. Last part of the comment released
today by the US Attorney Leo Foley, directed exactly precisely
at Mayor Will cut thirty three c rob.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
On the contrary, every arrest or detention is pursuant to
and sanctioned by federal law. The US Attorney's Office stands
in support of our federal law enforcement partners, whose mission
it is to protect.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
The residence of Massachusetts.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Regardless of the noise being generated by politicians who either
do not understand federal law or simply believe our nation's
immigration laws should not be in force.
Speaker 9 (10:52):
We will not apologize for doing our job.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So that we invited the US Attorney to join us tonight,
I didn't expect that she would. I think that statement
speaks for itself. So now my question from my audience
is this has taken the fight between the federal government
and Mayor Wu to another level. To some extent, it's
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going to work to the advantage of Mayor Wu in
her reelection bid here in Massachusetts, or rather in Boston,
excuse me, Boston, Massachusetts. But obviously the federal government feels
at this point that they have no other choice. And
again it's extraordinary. To the best of my knowledge, I
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have never heard or at least in Massachusetts. The District
of Massachusetts heard of the US Attorney releasing a prepared
statement for the purpose of calling on the carpet the
mayor of Boston or, in this case, a leading Democratic politician.
Here are the number six, one, seven, five, four, ten thirty,
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six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty or triple
eight nine two, nine, ten thirty. Question is very simple.
Who has the better of this argument? Uh, the US
Attorney Lea Foley or Boston Mayor Michelle Wu. I think
Wu's language is undisciplined, and I think she has made
(12:20):
statements that she needs to apologize for. That's my thought.
I'd love to know what you think. And I thought
that the US Attorney today was particularly disciplined and very
specific in her language. She approached it very much as
a lawyer would, while Mayor Wu was speaking often either
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from a script or off hand, in using language that
a politician would. That's my analysis. I'd love to get
yours six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty, six
one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty back on Nightside
right after this.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on radio.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All right, so we have a the lines are drawn
here between Boston mayor and Michelle wou and the US
Attorney Lea Foley. Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
This is this is a real battle. Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And there may be some political implications in all of this,
as there often is.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But I want to know who you think is handling
it properly. Let me go first up to Frank in Boston. Frank,
you a first up this hour on nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Yay, both sides are right. We are in a war
that both sides and the war is being waged against
the United States of America and its constitution and its people.
Both sides need to talk. Both sides need to get
their opinions out there, and we need to fix this
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mess here. So to say that neither side should be talked,
neither side should be making that point, I think it
puts one side and a disadvantage. Don't lay down and
put your head in the sand because you're afraid of
the other side. You got to say something. You gotta
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do something. Both sides. They got to say something. They
gotta give us their point and give us an idea
of what direction they want this nation to go.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, I'll tell you this, I think that you could
not have a clearer indication of the position of both sides.
I think Michelle Wu has made it pretty clear if
you come for anyone in Boston, then they're gonna have
to deal with everyone in Boston. Those were paraphrasing her words.
And Leo Foley, the US Attorney, is upset with some
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of the language that Wu has directed towards these federal agents.
And you know what's happening is a lot of these
guys are getting docks. You know when they say docs,
do you know what that means? It's a it's a
term that's kind of a recent term. Somehow they will
get the name and the address of where these folks
live and they will put it up on websites, and
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some of them feel that that puts them and their
families in danger.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Uh, well, see that's the that's the that's the thing here.
I don't know what that term is, but I don't
see anything out there telling us that that is happening.
This administration has a tendency to lie, lie, lie lot.
So this for them to be saying that and we
ain't even seen it, I got it.
Speaker 8 (15:32):
This happened.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Well it is.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I can tell you this. I can tell you this.
It is a practice that has been used.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Uh yeah, but you've got to help.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You out, man. Let me help you out a little
bit here. It is a practice that has been used
against UH by primarily by the extremists on both sides
of the spectrum against the other side of the spectrum.
So doxing is a term that has been going on
for a while.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
As a matter of fact, there were the homes of
US Supreme Court justices, which for years and years and
years have been kept very confidential. Uh started to become
public record back oh six or seven of five or
six years ago. So doc saying is something that is done, okay,
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and it's not nice because it impacts family members. But
that is I'm not saying. I'm not saying either US
Attorney fully or mayor Woo were doing that. I'm not
saying that, but some people on different sides are.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So that's that's it.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
But that doesn't mean it's happened to these agents. There
have been instances, none that you explain that there have
been instances that have heard, but I haven't heard nothing
going against these agents.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Well, if I haven't a US attorney, I will tell
you this. If I have some knowledge of the U
S Attorney.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
And by the way, the US attorney is a large
enforcement prosecutor that is appointed by the president, whoever, whether
it's a Democratic president or Republican president. U S attorneys
have done a very good job here, with a couple
of exceptions during during my time appointees of both Democratic
and Republican presidents. There's a pretty high high standard, uh
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that that U S Attorneys comply with. And if Lea Foley,
as a US attorney is saying that there are federal
agents whose identifications and whose home addresses have been docked doxed,
I think you can take that to the bank. And
that's what And she was most concerned about, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I didn't mean to interrupt your go ahead, Frank, and
give you a final one.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
I don't. I don't think her work should be taken
as truth. I don't. I don't. I think she is compromised.
I think a lot of these officers that this administration
is appointed people to have been compromised.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
What I would suggest to you is I don't think
you know.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
You, I mean, are wet all we got, dude? Look
at the headstaff was the Defense Department? What's the name
and Human and health blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
But we can go on.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
A lot of them are unqualified, and they called.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The departments again, you probably have qualifications. And the next
time there's a Democrat, uh, look at, look at Frank.
I hope that next time when your point of view
prevails and takes the White House, and there will be
next time, I hope that you're nominated for one of
these positions, because obviously you're.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
I wouldn't motify it. I wouldn't want it because I'm
not qualified. I wouldn't want a position that I'm not
qualified for because it will mess that everything up. And
you got people's reputation, people's careers that you would affect.
I wouldn't even I would not do that on.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
My tell stuff. Thank you for being honest, Frank, I think.
But then, if do you know any let me ask
you this. Yeah, Frank, just let's have a little bit
of a conversation. Do you know anything about LEO qualifications?
Do you know anything about Pete haik Seth's qualifications? Do
you know where Pete Haikseth went to school? Do you
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know what his military uh involvement has been? What he
what he did as a member of the active military.
Do you know any of that or no? Are they
just names to you? Why did you do me this favor?
I'm going to challenge you. I'm going to shout, I'm
going to challenge you here, Frank, Okay, I'm going to
judge you. I want you to to get on your
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computer and check.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Out I don't have a computer.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
No, you do, you don't, I do not. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
We'll go to the library and use a computer and
check out Leofole's qualifications. Check out Pete has hagg Seth's qualifications.
They are eminently qualified for the positions that they're served.
With their serving, you might disagree with their positions, Frank.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
You well, I see.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
The only advantage I have, Frank, Frank, The only advantage
I have is I know what their qualifications are. I've
looked at their their their curricula VTAI, I've looked at
their resumes. I understand what their qualifications are. I think
if you go and you look at their qualifications, you
are still going to disagree with positions they take, but
you're you're not going to be criticizing their qualifications, is
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the point I'm trying to make.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Come on, I hate, I hate to confuse you with
facts and things like that, Frank, but I have no choice.
I got to run. I hit the newscast. Appreciate you call,
keep calling I low. Our conversations. Have a great one
coming back on Nightside right after the news at the
bottom of the hour. You know, folks, I'm not going
to sit here and allow people's qualifications to be dragged
(20:52):
through the mud by people who haven't checked those qualifications out.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's as simple as that. Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Night Side with Dan Ray w BZ Boston's News.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
All right, I want to hear from some women on
this one because we have two leading political figures in
uh well, a federal prosecutor who's appointed by the Trump administration.
The federal prosecutors are appointed by the by the the
White House when you know when they they're elected, and
(21:27):
of course the Democratic mayor of Boston. Let me go
to William, my friend William in Baltimore, Maryland. William, welcome,
How are.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You, sir?
Speaker 11 (21:35):
How's going man?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I'm doing just fine, doing just fine. What's your take
on all of this, William?
Speaker 11 (21:42):
No, I was listening to what you said, but I
remember when the mayor was that in Washington right back,
and I heard I listened to all that and her
and her and the mayor of Chicago, uh, and the
and the mayor of Denver.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Then yeah, Denver, Colorado with the three mayors who were
in the hot.
Speaker 11 (22:03):
Seat, right and uh, the man from New York, Eric Adams,
like so.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yes, that's right Adams was there as well. Yep, good,
good memory.
Speaker 11 (22:12):
And then right and then I remember he did a
show man about Uh. She brought all the like arcle
ride the twelve people there and cast for like three hundreds.
She got a law firm from out of Washington, DC.
It cost all that money.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's about six It was about six hundred. It was
about six hundred thousand dollars all.
Speaker 11 (22:29):
In, I believe, right, I couldn't believe it. You told
me that, and I looked it up for the computer,
and you definitely telling the cheap un believe it. But anyway,
I think Ms wool Uh, you know, I think she's wrong. Man,
Like you said, you're an attorney, you know, you know,
and and uh the lady I didn't. I don't know
(22:50):
about her backfin, but I take your word for it
because you're an attorney, and.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, no she is.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
She is a very impressive background worked in driving practice,
and now she's a United States attorney and I'll tell
you she's fearless. She got out there today. I've never
seen a US attorney do what she did today. And
she basically stepped up and said she felt she had
to protect the officers in the field who were basically
(23:17):
making the arrests that her office would would have to prosecute.
So you know, I I would want to I would
want to work for a leader like that, to be
really honest with you, Yes.
Speaker 11 (23:29):
And I think that Michelle Woo. But you know it's
going to come to a head. Well, I really think
it's going to come to a head and one of
these mayors is going to get arrested because uh and
I think Michelle Woo was the leading and she's a
lawyer like you, like you kind of let them go
before that. Lady graduated from Harvard, right.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah she was. Yeah, she's a Harvard Law school graduate.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I don't know that she practiced law, to be honest
with you, but I don't know she practiced any law.
She was a member of the city council and then
she ran ran from mayor, so I don't know that.
But but it doesn't it doesn't matter. She went to
law school. She has a law degree. I'm fine with
that her she has. She has an impressive set of credentials.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I'm not in any.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Way, shape or for I just don't want people like
the fellow before you Frank was was talking about their credentials.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
He's never looked at their credentials in like.
Speaker 11 (24:24):
You said, Peter blag with a mob and infumps.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
That is correct.
Speaker 11 (24:28):
I don't understand. I don't understand why people say that
these people are unqualified. I ain't like just learning when
I was. They've got a bunch of people, you know,
no kind of no kind of backbone like clarying Bondy,
I mean, the ladies a crosscut. I mean, come on, man,
I mean just because you don't like these people.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Like exactly, yeah, I mean yeah, It's like it's like, look,
I can root against the Yankees and root for the
Red Sox, but I can tell you I know that Judges,
Aaron Judges is a heck of a baseball player. You know,
we rooted, we rooted against Derek Jeter for years, but
(25:05):
what a great you know player he was, and I
just think that's what sports teaches you and I you know,
it's the ignorant fan who would say, oh that Genie's
a bomb, he's a boom.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
You know, you never hit fifty. You know, we'd say
that's not always in his job was? You know?
Speaker 11 (25:23):
Anyway, he's just so so I mean, then, look, let
me say this to you about missus. Did I hear
her correctly? And I think was when one another lady
Nancy Mason's asking her, what are you thinking about the
wrestled wakes a child molester? She said that. She said no,
(25:43):
she said no to her, No.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
No, no, what no what you know what she said no?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
What happened was, uh, Congresswoman May said, do you think
public safety is threatened when a child molester is arrested?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
And she said no.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So so she's basically agreeing and saying, Okay, arrest the murder,
arrest the child molester, but don't go out and then
make a speech. When you come for one, you're coming
for all of us. Because I don't want to be
associated with child molesters and murderers. You know, That's that's
what I think she was trying to.
Speaker 11 (26:18):
Say and I think the thing, you know, because I'm
just kind of will it's getting really, you know, everybody's.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Going, well, we had we had a democratic mayor up
here before Michelle Wou, Mardy Walsh, who was a strong
union guy, strong labor guy. He eventually ended up in
the in the cabinet of President Biden uh and is
now the player representative. He's that he represents the the
(26:48):
NHL players union. Yeah right, but but he was great mayor,
great mayor, well in touch with the city. I gotta
tell you, I think if Bartie Walsh ever came back
and ran against Michelle Wou, Michelle Wu would have more
than than she could handle.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
In my in my opinion, could be gone. And there's
there's there's a candidate.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Up here, you know, Josh Kraft is running for mayor
in Boston, the son of Bob Craft, the owner of
the New England Patriots. So we'll see how it's how
that race, how this race, it doesn't doesn't. We'll get
settled to early early November. William, you'll have a you'll
have a front row seat here on night side.
Speaker 11 (27:30):
Okay, okay, And let me say this what man, just
like they was talking about what's his name, Don Robert Kennedy.
He's another qualified person, even though he got it chicking
back because there was a guy on the radio down
here and they calling to learn her on that. You know, well,
I don't think that was what but UH learned how
(27:51):
the problems because I heard him, so he was in
he's in the coming again and he well, you.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Know, Marty Walsh had been an alcoholic. I have more
respect for people who have been able to confront one
of those demons and recover from it. I have a
friend of mine who I've talked about in the air
who have tremendous respect for He was dealing with heroin
(28:17):
and and I knew him and uh and and I
spent a lot of time talking to him, and and
he eventually has got himself squared away. Uh and and
you have to you have to have tremendous respect for people.
It's like someone who gets sick and somehow is able
to get themselves on the road to recovery.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Look, you got to have respect for people like that. William.
You know I did not. I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
But but you've just gone up in my book. Actually,
you were pretty far up in my book anyway, William,
So you gotta go up much higher. All right, man,
we'll talk to him. Okay, Thanks, have a great one. Thanks,
moving back, coming right back here on night Side. I
got Mark, George, and Fred. I'm going to get them
all in before ten, and at ten my intention is
to switch topic, so we Mark, George and Fred. You
(29:10):
stay right there, I'll get you and we'll be back
on night Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Okay, let's keep rolling here, going to go to Georgia
and Arlington. George, you are next time nights. I appreciate
your patience, George.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
Good evening, Dan, Thank George for doing this show.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Thanks.
Speaker 10 (29:29):
I agree with you that the majority of the federal
attorneys have been very high level, high achieving, very focused people.
And I also agree as you said that I think
the majority of the people in this country believe that
the criminals who are threats to us should be the
(29:50):
ones that are being taken. Unfortunately, that's not what's been
happening here. We've seen people snatched off courts in front
of the court. We've seen e tear rolls. Uh, we've
seen grad students. There no threat to any of us. Uh,
if you and I are arrested, Dan, Uh, unless we've
got a gun in the middle of a creating, you know,
(30:11):
doing a crime. We're gonna have somebody that has a badge,
that has a name on the badge of the uniform
and has an arrest war that's not happening.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, let me let me let me make this George,
Just so you know, I was very critical of the
arrest of the Tough's graduate student. I said it on
the air, so people know what I said. I do
tell I will tell you this. I thought that that
was and I said it at the time, horrific optics.
(30:41):
And I you know, I read the op ed piece
that she wrote for the Tough newspaper and it was
it was pablem There was nothing in there that uh
that was offensive in my opinion. Do I think that
she's inclined favorably towards Palestinians, Yes, but I don't think
she should have been a I will tell you when
(31:01):
she was arrested, because I've looked at the video many times,
the ice officers showed her a badge and identified themselves.
I could not hear them telling them telling her who
they were, but I could tell from the observation. They
stopped in front of her, held up the badge and
she was listening. And I'm sure they said we're Ice officers.
You're under arrest. I'm certain of that. Okay, So the
(31:26):
eighteen year old kid, I think that that was a mistake.
Now is the kid here legally?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
No, he was not born here. He's not here legally.
They were looking for the father.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
They were looking for the father, and they I saw
the father did a video which was released.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
To the TV news stations.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I think the father should go down and say, hey, look,
you want me release my son. I would not be
sitting at home knowing my son was in some sort
of an ice detention center.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
You're right, and and what's what's happened here? You know? Man,
we certainly used rhetoric in a political speech and certainly went.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Over the line.
Speaker 10 (32:10):
There list a folly house, However, used rhetoric that was
just as serious, perhaps more damaging than that. The fact is, Dan,
we're democracy, We're America, United States of America. Uh No,
no tyrants, you know, no teams and law here.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You loaded You used a pretty loaded term there. Who's
the who's the gestapo?
Speaker 10 (32:35):
We're talking about the way these guys go out. It
dan taking people. The poor guy that that that that
actually was here legally down I think it was New Bedford.
They smashed the car windows. There's no need of that,
there's no need of the way that doesn't agree with you.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I agree with you, But the vast majority and and
mistakes should be corrected.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
There are people arrested in this country all the time
and charge incorrectly with crimes. Okay, you're talking to a
reporter who spent fifteen years trying to get four guys
out of prison who were intentionally and wrongfully convicted by
corrupt FBI agents.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I think you know that story. I don't.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
I hope I don't know that story.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, okay, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
They are mistakes, but there are mistakes. But there's a
lot of bad dudes out there, and they're not going
to go into those places dressed, you know, in bow ties,
bow ties and clown hats. They're they're going into some
situations they don't know what's on the other side of
the door.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
At at five o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
That's why I'm not arguing any of that, Dan, I'm
ideing what we're seeing of lee videos taken by people
on the street of the way things are being done.
And least the foling's apologize to that and stop it
or resigned. There's no need of doing going things where
they are, Dan. The administration lost Trump and the people
of Washington are now going after the Afghanistans who risk
(34:05):
their lives, the state servicemen right.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Now.
Speaker 10 (34:10):
They want to them.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I guess what. That's a mistake. I will share with
you that.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Okay, I've agreed with you on a number, but that
doesn't mean I should not be out there trying to
get arrest the bad guys.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
That's all, and when I'm not, That's all what I'm saying.
At the beginning, I said, Okay, agreement, I.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Got George, I got two others. I'd like to sneak in.
Speaker 10 (34:33):
Voice my opinion to thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I always want your opinion, you know that, Okay, I
always want you. Thank you much.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay, let me try to get a couple in here
real quickly, Mark in New Hampshire, Mark you next on nights.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I go right ahead.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
Yeah, I mean this shouldn't have been no surprise to anyone.
Donald Trump, in the run up to the election in
November of last year, studied categorically that if he was elected,
the southern border would be closed and there would be
vast deportations. Yes, okay, all right, so and they and
(35:11):
Tom Holman the borders are had Carrot had stated clearly
that they were going particularly hard at the so called
sanctuary states and the cities within those sanctuaries.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
That's absolutely correct, you're absolutely And by the way, by
the way, when President Obama was president of the United States,
he oversaw the deportation of three million people.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Well but so before before you're gonna leave me, I
just have to say that what Michelle Wu stated was
app was absolutely apprehensible to say.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
That think you mean, I think you meant reprehensible.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
I'm sorry, you're right. Reprehensible to state that set the
police were snatch people off the street. Michelle, this isn't
North Korea, this isn't Venezuela, this isn't Cuba. This is
the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Well, again, there have been some rest they have been
which remained, which in my opinion, go get the bad guys,
get the real bad armbres first and then.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Moved down.
Speaker 10 (36:35):
Still here, but when when the eighteen year.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Old high school student becomes the focus there, losing the
argument at that point, That's what.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
They wanted his. They wanted his old man.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I know I'm very familiar to case Mark.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'm up against it, and I gotta let you ride,
and I apologize for not giving you more time.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
To those in the line, I'm going to change topics.
Stay there if you want, but you you've called both
Matt and Ramon. You've called really late. I'm going to
change topics. I'm going to talk about the bromance between
Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Is it finally over? We'll be back on Night's side
after this
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