March 18, 2025 • 41 mins
President Trump and Russian President Putin had a lengthy telephone call primarily about “the need for peace and a ceasefire in the Ukraine war.” According to the White House, "the leaders agreed that the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, full ceasefire, and permanent peace." The negotiations will begin immediately. What are your thoughts on a bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia. Do you trust Putin/Russia? President Trump? Either of them?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Undoing you crazy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, we're moving right along here, and we're basically
reacting to what happened today in well happened today in
Moscow and in Washington. President Trump and President Putin spent
ninety minutes on the phone this morning. Sounded like they
were there from about ten o'clock until eleven thirty whatever,
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ninety minutes, and there seems to be at least the
beginnings of an agreement. Apparently Russia has agreed. To let
me make sure I characterized this correctly. This is from
the White House readout. It said Russia the leaders agreed
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that the movement to peace will begin with an energy
and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technic negotiations on implementation
of a Maritimes ceasefire in the Black Sea. Black Sea
very is very important to Russia. Full ceasefire and permanent peace.
The first step is to stop hitting one another's energy, infrastructure,
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energy and infrastructure. That's a step, small step, but a
step in the right direction. So my question is are
you optimistic? Who do you trust? So far, most of
the people who have called have said they don't trust Putin.
I suspected more of you would say that you don't
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trust either. But sometimes it's the interest of it's in
the mutual interest of two countries, in this case Russia
and the United States, to try try to end hostilities
between one of those two countries and a third party
here Ukraine. So that's where it is. I wish I
(01:59):
had something more specific to offer. I just want to
hear from you six one, seven, two, five, four, ten
thirty one line there. Six one, seven, nine three, one,
ten thirty. It's kind of a deep topic, but I
think my audience is capable of handling this topic. I
want to know if you are encouraged by a ninety
minute phone conversation that also apparently was parenthetically a conversation
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that talked about maybe the National Hockey League teams, probably
like an all star team play against the Russian Professional
Hockey League, the Continental League khal KHL. I don't think
that the Russian team would do particularly well because a
lot of the Russians are over here, as I think
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we know. But sometimes sports becomes the bridge to piece.
It's it's it's true. Let's go to Robert in Boston. Robert,
you're gonna start us off this hour. Thanks for your
patience you held through the newscast.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Go right ahead, Robert, Yeah, can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I can hear you? Find circle right ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
No, I just got this.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It may sound kind of uh strange or just comical,
but I'm thinking, like, these guys are fighting so much, right,
why don't they just go three of them get in
the ring like they didn't the old day, fight it out,
and whoever win got the decision.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, I think that in the old days, maybe that
happened when uh so, when when the Visigoths ended up
uh in a war with someone I don't know, I
don't know who they who, the visi Goths would take
it over by.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But uh yeah, they're acting like but but but Trump
and all of them are acting like they're the gods
of the of the world and they're just human being.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
They are just human beings. But I'll tell you there's
been a lot of human beings going back to you know,
Hannibal and the elephants crossing the Alps, and Julius Caesar
and all the way up to modern day. I think
what you're saying is wonderful to think that somehow we
would pick our top fighter. I think they did that.
(04:19):
It was a rocky movie, if I'm not mistaken. I mean,
it's the movies. But it's the movies, but it's not
real life.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Let them slugged it out and whoever comes out of winner.
That's what the decision is, all right, that's they're making.
Making it too complicated, and too many people are dying.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Like you know, there's a lot of people who are dying,
a lot of property that has been destroyed, there's no
question about that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And they have they have no sympathy or compassion for
people's lives. I mean, you can't take people's lives.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And you're not God.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
God is God, and God is looking all of this
is happening.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
He doesn't like it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, you look, it's happening all over the world. It's
happening all over the world. It's human nature. You see
it in you see it in the Middle East. You
see it in Iran. They want nuclear weapons and their theocrats.
You see it everywhere. Unfortunately, I guess that's that's that's
the way the world will end. Someday will blow ourselves up.
(05:25):
But let's hope not. Let's see what we can do
to me.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I have many grandkids and they need to live a.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Mary free life.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Not yes, so far I only got one. But I
join you, Robert, I join you in that in that wish. Hey,
have you called the show before? Is this your first time?
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Now?
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I call it before one time?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well, do me favorite coming back more often? Okay? Thanks Robert,
talk to you. Thank you, Yes, sir, you as well,
Thank you, my friend. Good night. Six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty. Triple eight nine two nine ten thirty
is one line at six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. Let's keep rolling here, and I want people
waiting around. Let's go to Bow and holding Massachusetts. I
(06:08):
know we're holding. Is hi Bo welcome? How are you?
I can guarantee Bo has never called the show before
because I do not remember.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah before, No, I tell me okay, okay, and I
remember my European accent.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yes. But the only other Bow I've ever I've ever
met with were not met herd Of was a guy
pitch for the Who's That Both?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Eric?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Well, No, I never met Bo Derek. No, No, I
didn't even think of Bo Derek. There was a picture
for the Angels way back in the day called Bo Bolinski,
so that's the third we got both from holding Bo
Bolinsky and both Derek. So what's your thought, Bo? What's
your thought?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
First of all, there are there are two things I
want to say here, and I hope I'm not out
of place. First of all, any initiative for peace, it's
not more than welcome, it's fantastic, right. So what our
president is doing is I think the right thing. Now,
do we trust Puttin? Do we don't trust Putting? That's
a different story. Of course, we don't trust who don't
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trust anybody?
Speaker 7 (07:11):
Right?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And you're of our readers, probably we don't trust Putting.
But the initiative for peace is a very well come thing.
The second thing I wanted to say, it's and again
I don't want to sound out of place, but how
many people can they? And some they are your listeners.
Can they even point to Ukraina is on the map?
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Not many?
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Do they know?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Not many? They know about the history of Soviet Union,
how these republics were pretty much created, what the conflicts are,
what the ethnical problems are in there? I can tell
you I'm Romanian, and the Romanians they have no rights
in Ukrainia. They don't have charges they are not allowed
to speak Romanian. And actually, by the Ribnrop Molotov part
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in nineteen forty a part of Romania was give on
to Ukraine. It's called the Nor. I can check it
with a big majority of Romanian population that they have
no rights and they will never have rights in there.
And now Ukraina wants to join European Union, wants to
join NATO. I mean, it's a joke. This is a joke,
this is a fund.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well Ukraine one, well, wait, hold on both for a second.
I'm very empathetic to what you say, and I'm so
respect Look, I know I don't know a lot about
Eastern Europe compared to you, but I certainly know Bucharest
is the capital of Romania.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Yes I have.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I have walked by Romanian soldiers in Poland in the
nineteen eighties when I was covering Poland for WBS TV,
and I must tell you the Romanian soldiers, now again,
this was this was before the wall fell. They scared
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the heck out of me. I'll tell you, man, they
looked at me like, what are you doing here? It's
my only, my only interchange with with Romanians. But but
before that's before the wall fell. And look the Romanian people.
I have subsequently met Romanians who are amazing people. So
I have all the respects of your world for you
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and and for people from Romania to have undergone, undergone
what you did undergo. I mean, it was horrible. I
have a friend of mine who talked to me about
what it was like to live under the boot of
the Soviets. Uh that that people, Yes, it was not
(09:36):
easy at all, So I agree.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I only to remember that, and to remember the revolution
in eighteen nine, to remember the fail the fall of
the Soviet Union, the fall of the Eastern Blow, the
fall of the Warsaw Pact, and to remember all the
and to remember actually the light which came from the
United States when Vegan was president and Gormachos president, which
is Parastroika, and to remember that there was hope. Probably
(10:02):
now there is hope again. Let's let's thing like this,
there is hope again. Maybe Trump and put In they
can do what Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan they did. And
then of course George w Having George Bush the father
did let me let me ask you both questions with
in the two countries.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Tell me, were you there when Siasco Madi states.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yes, I was in the street, I was in the seat.
I was seventeen years old. I was in the streets.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yes, good for you.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I was in the military from ninety one to ninety three,
then for the Internal Ministry in Romania. I did my
mandatory military service. Then I came to United States in
ninety five and I became a United States citizen. And
I tell you what I don't feel an next part.
I feel that this is my country. And whenever I
come back from Romania, I can tell you I kissed
the ground. I kissed the ground in Logan Airport. That's
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what I do.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Let me just say this, bo, you are. You are
my sort of American, okay. I was lucky enough to
be born here, okay. And I have tremendous respect for
people like you who come here from other countries around
the world where living was probably a lot more difficult
than it is here. But come here legally and and
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say what you just said. I mean, you lived under
the boot of the Chichesco family, and your family lived
under the boot of Chichisco family, and we can never
we can never ever understand how you and your and
your family and your country people survived. I have a
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friend who's Romanian, and he told me how that his
father was uh was was an enemy of the state,
and how that some of his best friends basically squealed
on him, told the block commanders that that his father
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was not supporting Chizesco and hit their family paid for it.
So I know I know, not from firstthand experience, but
from hearing from people like you and this other friend
of mine what it was like to liver under a
communist dictatorship. So thank you for calling this show, and
I hope you'll call more off and I joined and
a hope piece that we can give piece a chance.
(12:23):
Thanks bol, Thank you so much. I really am honored
that you would call.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Thank you, my friend, thank you, thank you, good night,
by good night.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Okay. I'll tell you that's a great call. When you listen,
when you realize the experience that that man has had,
it's it's it's extraordinary. The only line open right now
was six one, seven, nine thirty.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I'm beginning to hear some people who are hopeful. I
want to hear from you, whether you're hopeful or not.
But we have to we have to hope, hope that
somehow the situation where you can be resolved and that
the killing can stoff. And also we have to make
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sure that Putin complies with whatever peace agreement might be
agreed upon, simple as that. We'll be back on night
Side right after this.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Back to the phones. We're talking about this ninety minute
telephone conversation between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin today, presidents
of Russia and the United States, talking about Ukraine, how
to get a ceasefire in place and perhaps end the hostilities.
I don't want to sound overly optimistic. I think there
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might have been a step or two in the right
direction today, and we should applaud that. We don't have
to you don't have to be a Trump supporter to
applaud that. But I think, if, if, if we can
structure something that gives Zelensky confidence and provides enough structure
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so that Putin will live by whatever he agrees to,
maybe somehow, some way peace might break out. I'm hopeful.
I'd love to know what all of you think, and
if you want to comment on Trump or Putin here,
that's fine. I can understand some of you might like neither.
(14:30):
I get it. Roger in Foxborough, Roger, next time nights.
I go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (14:34):
I haven't talked in a while.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Dan, Well, Roger, we're here every night for you. Nice
to talk with you tonight. We what's your take on this?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I'm been busy.
Speaker 9 (14:42):
Well, you know, I found it was interesting. One of
the first people to visit Trump when he took office
was Prime Minister Modi of India. Yes, and the Indians
have a great concern here. They're you know, they look
upon the European colonialist oppressors. And for Trump to separate
himself from the Europeans really makes it gives an interesting
dynamic to this whole thing, saying, hey, you know, we're
(15:03):
not dealing with him. This is between US and Russia.
These other people they can sort things out for themselves.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I had not thought of that like that. When when
you bring the Modi and I think that mody.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
And trust he's on the work against China.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
And this is the thing is if we can if
we I'm not saying I want to see Putin benefit
from this, but if if he can accept a limited
piece of some sort a lot of people in Russia
might sit down and have a beer with Ukrainians and
say what was it all about, and then maybe decide
maybe putin. He's wagging the dog with this war. If
we can get him to back down on this war,
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even if it's only temperary, even if he thinks he's
gonna come back later and do something, he may not see.
You know, every dog is his day, but his day
might be done, you know after this. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I know, I know that that I believe that he
There were there were reports a couple of years ago
that he had a some sort of disease and they
were they were looking at pictures of him. So, like
anyone else, he's mortal. He's only going to be here
for so long.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
And I think, as I say, if if Russia just
goes to hell and the Europeans think they're just going
to come in and you know, loot the place, you know,
their resources and stuff, Indy, China's going to move in.
But like I say, if we try to be fair
to the Russian people, never mind putin just the Russian people,
India would back us against China and they would be
willing to say. But if it's just another European colonialist
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power grab here. Ultimately, India might say the hell with y'all,
We'll let China do it, and and then we've got
China fifty miles away from Alaska, not Russia, you know.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
And yeah, that's why I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I don't think that's going to happen. I think that
that whenever Putin US either leaves office or is removed
from office, there will be probably another hardline of replacing him,
unless the generals, the Russian generals are so angry at
Putin at the way I mean, Russia was at odds
on favored to roll into Ukraine that didn't happen, so
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so food and underestimated Ukraine's ability to stand up.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Now it was definitely there.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
Approx was up to me, I would have just said,
you violated the buddhifest Achords. They get their nuclear weapons back,
you know.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
But yeah, that I just want to know.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
I couldn't never, I could never hate the Russian people.
I got to go there when I was a kid
and meet some people, and you know, I mean, who
would have thought Bresnev was a reformer? But when I
was there in winter of seventy four. You know, it
was like there were people they're willing to talk about
stuff they probably would have been shot for talking about
ten years before.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How did you without don't give me any deep dark
family secrets here, but how was it that you could
be in Russia as a kid in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
Well, I was fifteen and I had my I had
my sixteenth birthday in Moscow, I had a potty and
I went over on a trip. A friend of mine's
mother was a teacher in the Math Teachers Association with
sponsoring a journey over there for winter vacation, and and
so it was, you know, the Communist Party was and
we were like guests of honor because we were from
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Massachusetts and at the time, Massachusetts, you know, everybody was
singing the Beg song Massachusetts. It was the biggest hit
in the country, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean it was like, well, Russia is one country
that I have never never visited.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
I know, you were on a trip there a couple
of years ago, and then everything went to went to
everything exactly in a handbasket.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
We were we were thinking about that we had done
a trip down the Danube River. Yea, I remember you
talking about it a lot of and and we were
going to try try to pull together something which would
include Moscow in Saint Petersburg, and obviously the international events
overtook it. In Americans, I.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Mean, I mean, I could never hate those people, you know,
because like from my experience, you know, they were they
were just as likely to question in their government. Is
that's it's just a question of what can you do?
How can you change things?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
What we have under the boot of a dictatorship. And unfortunately,
if you lived in Russia, even when you were there,
there were KGB people everywhere, there were people spying on
every It was it was a horrible place to be.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
It's like what they were saying, but.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Well, it's like what Cuba is today. And young Americans
have no idea about what it was like. I mean,
this was you know, Hitler horrible, horrible, but Joe Stallen
equally horrible. Would people forget that it was Stalin and
Hitler who signed the Russian German packed in nineteen thirty
nine in which.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
They did Poland. Did you know they were there were.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
Jews fleeing the Russian occupied Poland to get to the
German side, even though they knew how bad it was
over there.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, well I did not know that, but I'm sure
that it was.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
It was. It sounds totally insane.
Speaker 10 (20:00):
But.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Roger, interesting experience. Let me ask you what you had
an interesting experience at the age of sixteen to be
in Russia nineteen seventy four. What sort of work did
you end up doing? Did I did you end up
becoming a teacher? Well?
Speaker 9 (20:19):
I work in a library. Let's say, I thought, I
really can't talk about it. I work in a library,
and I was kind of involved in had extra library
privileges then because I was involved in model Congress and
high school. So I kind of I've always loved books,
and I just so I work in I work in
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the let's just say I work. I have access to
things that most people don't have access to.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
We'll leave it at that. We'll let people's imagination run wild.
Roger call more often, will you? You're an interesting guy?
Thank you very much?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Have a good one. Good night. Six one seven four
ten thirty one line there six one seven nine three
one ten thirty. We're talking about I mean today, we
may look back on today and say that was the
moment in time when a peace agreement, uh was was begun.
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That's what I'm I'm looking for tonight. Now. I know
there are those who are skeptical. I'm somewhat skeptical, but
it's a better big day. And I uh, ninety minutes
for Putin and Donald Trump to be on the phone
with one another for ninety minutes. What do you read
into it? Coming back on Night's Side, I hope to
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talk about this till eleven. If not, I got another
topic we can throw out there. But this to me
is interesting because the world is changing, folks, whether you
realize it or not. The world is changing. And you
may have seen the world click a little bit today
in my opinion, But I'd love to hear from you.
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Your opinion is what interests me. You've heard mine.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Coming back on Night Side, You're on Night Side with
Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Okay, full lines. I like that. Let's keep rolling here,
Gonna go next to Robert and Wellesley. Robert, are you optimistic? Here?
Go right ahead?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (22:25):
Well, Dan, maybe I could go with Ronald Reagan's philosophy
of trust but verified and I think and the adage
of if if both sides are talking there there is hope.
And I also have a comment with regards to your
(22:46):
one of your callers suggesting that we have a contest
like a boxing match or something between uh, between two
leaders and ever since the biblical story of David versus
go if I don't know, there will be too many
kickers on that.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, no, I know that. Well, you know we've had
some of those things. Was it Alexander Ham Hamilton and
Aaron Burr? It didn't that work out too well? Not mistaken? Yeah,
so yeah, I mean, interesting idea, and it would be lovely,
but I don't know, you want to put the fate
of a nation between you know, a mortal battle here.
(23:25):
I just thought it was an interesting, interesting suggestion by Robert,
But we kind of that sort of thing works in
the movies, not in real life. But I'm with you
on this, trust but verify and as long as they're
talking there, as long as they're talking talking, there's some hope.
So I'm with you. I'm writing the money with you.
Thank you much, Thank you. All right, talk, So we're
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going to go next to who we got here, Jim
and Saugus. Jim, you were next to Night said welcome. Hello, Jim,
good sir, what's your take here, Jim?
Speaker 10 (24:00):
Uh? My take is this, I spent a lot of
time in Ukraine. Uh, volunteered there, Yes, yes, and I've
seen first chance. Uh what Putin has done and the
fact that our president is even going to entertain some
(24:27):
kind of ceasefire is insane. So Zelenski has said that
he will go for a thirty days ceasefire, right and
Putin has said no, I'm not going to do that.
But yet, Yeah, I don't know. We want to somehow.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Okay, so let's let's let's let me ask you this.
When was the last time you were in Ukraine.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
I've never been to Ukraine, so I was there last
October twenty twenty four, all right, and what was the spirit?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
What was the spirit of the people when you were there?
I know how long you were there. But to get
a chance to talk to the Ukrainian people, are they tired?
Are they are they intent on continuing this? What? What's
the spirit there?
Speaker 10 (25:27):
At this point time? They have a great spirit in
Ukraine and they are going to fight for their country.
They are not going to put up with somebody invading
their country.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Like pop has started.
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Okay, I think yet.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
We can't forget that he invaded their country.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh, there's no question about it. There's no question about that.
That's indisputable. There's no no question about that. But my
question to you is this. Okay, now, I know you
probably are not a fan of Donald Trump, which is fine,
but what would did you like to see Trump do? Well,
what would you like to see the United States do,
if anything, to try to bring the hostilities to uh close?
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What do you think should be if anything?
Speaker 10 (26:13):
Yeah, what should be done is to tell them to
retreat from the country, go back to their own country.
And that the Ukrainians say, like the way they want
to live.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So how do you do that? How do you do
how that? That's an interesting theory. How do you make
that reality?
Speaker 11 (26:38):
Well?
Speaker 10 (26:38):
I think what we do, which you put pressure on them, Right,
so we've retreated from our allies that have been trying
to put pressure on Russia could get out of there.
Now the United States is saying they're not going to
condemn what has happened over the last three years. Right
in that Nations vote, we voted with Belarus, we voted
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but North Korea, and we voted with Russia. So who
are we as a country right now.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I okay, get it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Okay, So again I'm asked. What I'm trying to get
at is this, Uh, maybe we would have been better
to have Joe Biden. I think you think probably Biden
did a great job in terms of Ukraine.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Oh god, no, look, okay, good enough.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
I am not by any stretch of the emn redstret
Republic in my whole life.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Ragon Okay, no problem, no, Probert, that's fine, that's fine.
My question is this, Okay, when Trump was president from
twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one, how many countries did
Putin invade?
Speaker 10 (27:53):
Scarcely Da? Why while they were dancing with each other?
Speaker 9 (27:59):
Seriously, No, I'm asking I'm asking that.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I'm just asking you as an honest question. Okay, how
many countries you could use your advance? You can use
your answer advantageously if you want so. None, Joe Biden
watched the Russian troops mass on the border and they evaded.
And I think Biden did a fairly good job under
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the circumstances of the invasion. I've said that publicly. I
won't back down that. Now, maybe maybe Putin looks at
Trump a little differently than he looks at Biden. Do
you think that's possible or no?
Speaker 10 (28:40):
Oh, he definitely does.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Okay, Now do you think if he was looking at
Trump as a patsy, how many countries should have putin
invaded when Trump was president the first time?
Speaker 10 (28:58):
No, she never would have done it under Trump. Do
you understand that he never would have acquiesced? And so
he was waiting Trumpets set him up, and then when
Biden was president that was his time to go in.
He's not going to do it under Trump? He didn't
he And do you think that he's really going to
(29:21):
exit Ukraine under Trump? No? What's going to happen is
he's gonna I don't know that he has right now? Okay,
do you know the end that he that Russia has
right now?
Speaker 9 (29:32):
When you're great, I want to know you that.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, the dun dumbass region in the east. Yes, I'm
a little familiar with that. Familiar.
Speaker 10 (29:41):
So what's going to happen to ye? Now they're going
to come to some settlement. Now, he took over PRIMEA
right now, he's going to take.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Over second when did he take over CRIMEA?
Speaker 10 (29:56):
Oh twenty fourteen?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, and who was president that right? I know that that,
but the audience doesn't Obama.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
That was Obama of course said Okay, Trina was in
a back off.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yep.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
Now he's They're in other areas probably, and let them.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Know you're not. Yeah, Jim, you're making my argument for
me here. You're making it too easy. What I'm saying
is maybe maybe Putin looks at Trump with a little
bit of apprehension. He didn't have a lot of apprehension
when Obama was president fourteen. Okay, why are you laughing
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at that? I mean, are you laughing at what?
Speaker 10 (30:46):
Putin is not looking at Trump with apprehension?
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Well?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
What what? What do you think? How do you think
he what do you think he thinks he's going to
get out of Trump? I mean, if he thought Trump
was a patsy, why didn't he invade you Ukraine in
twenty seventeen, eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
Or twenty because now he has control over it and now.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
So he waited for Trump to leave the White House. Jim, think, Jim,
you're making my argument. Don't make it so easy. He
waited until Trump left the White.
Speaker 10 (31:18):
House made Yeah, listen to my argument.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I'm here in your argument. But you you were telling
me at this point that somehow after Biden allowed this
to occur. Now Trump has to clean up Biden's mess.
At least he's talking to to Putin today. I know
you don't have any faith in him. I don't have
a lot of faith in him, but at least I
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have a little bit of faith that maybe, maybe, maybe
in some weird way, Putin is a little apprehensive of Trump,
that Trump's the more of a wild card than Biden was.
That's all. Hey, I got to run because it's I
got a break, Jim, thank you very much for me. Well,
(32:04):
I appreciate you too as well. It was it was
a good conversation. At least I felt it was. I
hope you did as well. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 10 (32:10):
No I did you? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Good night, good night. We'll take a break. I got
Mike in West Roxbury, I got down in Indiana, I
got Steve in New York. And I even get a
couple more in if you want, try six one, seven
thirty or six months. The only two lines are six
one seven thirty? What am I saying? Not even reading
my own screen?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Be back right after this now, back to dan Way
line from the Window World Nights Side Studios on WBZ
News Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
We're getting everybody in here. Let's go first to Mike
and west Roxbury. Mike, you next on nightside.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Welcome over going.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Going fine for me? How's it going for you?
Speaker 6 (32:50):
A little bit of a call, though, I'll live. Okay,
So I want I want to go back all wave here. Okay, sure,
okay's probably been been. Everyone's been pondering this far such
a while. Now let's go back to what was the
original reason. I have my thoughts for this, Okay, what
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was the original reason Putin went In told his commanders
general to go call over the border.
Speaker 10 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well, Putin has always said that the greatest uh disaster
of the twentieth century was the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
Do I think that he thinks he can put the
Soviet Union back together? No, But I do think that
he wants to to protect Mother Russia.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Somewhat and in the formans right.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, And the Dambas region on the eastern part of
Ukraine is predominantly Russian for a number of reasons, and
he felt that he had from his perspective that that
he had a responsibility to restore that part of Ukraine
to right. That's why he invaded. Now, if he liked
(34:03):
to have won and installed a puppet in Ukraine like
he has in Belarus, absolutely, But I think that's the
reason for the for the evasion. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Now here's my anything. We're in the twenty first century
with twenty twenty five, okay, right, You would think he
would he would. I mean, unless he's wacked or has
sometimes mental derangement or whatever. You would think a lot
of people would say, you know what, live and let live,
leave it alone.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
But he's a kg B guy. He's a kg B
guy entre life. Yeah, you know, so he was just
going to say what we're dealing with here. I don't
know that he's going to have some sort of miraculous
transition in his seventies to become John Lennon if you
you know, and seeing you know, imagined.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
But I mean, if he's looking, are you still there, dad?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah? I am a listener. Yeah, I'm listening.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
If he's looking to be you know, some type of
a monifor for for his country, I mean maybe a
small percentage might might might might call along with it,
But I I think he's pursuing it the wrong way.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I agree with you. I absolutely think he's pursuing it
the wrong way. But here's where we are. How do
we how do we turn this back back? And I'm
hoping that the start of a conversation today might begin
a process that somehow, some way, because look, this thing
could could have been exploded the last three years if
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we had made a mistake, if they had hit NATO troops,
then you know, this is a disaster waiting to happen.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Oh I would have it would have been held to pay.
Oh my god, we would We would have had multiple
black eyes figuratively speaking. But you know what I think
has to happen, And and this happened slightly about a
year ago. If you recall one, a lot of Russian
troops wouldn't gates are certain a certain groups, whether it's
(36:03):
bell Rus or Crimea or wherever it was. Okay, well,
I think it has to happen. Everybody has to. Russia
has to just lay down their arms and say, you
know what, guys, we don't want to do this anymore.
But then the Putin would have their heads probably exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I think that's a pipe dream, but it's a wonderful
pipe dream. Hey, Mike, I gotta run. Thanks so much
for calling. I was a great hear from my West
Roxbury listeners. Thanks man, talk to you soon. Cool, good night.
Let's go to Steve in New York. Steve want to
get you, Dawn and Jean and so Gret ahead Steve.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
All right, so I got thirty seconds then, right, Dan,
I'm not gonna I give you more than.
Speaker 11 (36:42):
I know you will.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
So chill on to you and you listen as I
have to say that firsthand, Putin cannot be trustedn't we
know that? And you know that, and I know you're
a ray man like me. You remember everything that pretty
much anybody says to you, and you absorber. So I'm
gonna do a refresher course that again, World War three
(37:04):
will be at the Euphraid's River because it is drying up.
Two hundred million soldiers will die. Whether God has just
the Chinese military or North Korea or a combination, but
that will happen. We're in the birth banks of the
end times, meaning you know.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, I don't know why you want to go there
with this this late in the show.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Okay, what's your question.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I gotta be honest with you. I I have no idea.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
What you're talking about, Well, the book, the Revelation, that's
very comforting. I just want to comfort comfort your listeners.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Wells are here that you think that's going to comfort
my listeners?
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Well, well, yeah, the Revelation explains Dan what's gonna happen.
So it's comforting.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I'm gonna I'm going to do a show at some
point on the.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Bible and that would be great.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
That'd be great, and I.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Want you to call in. Okay, but tonight we're gonna
stick with Trump and food O. Thanks man, all.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Right, you can't be trusted, that's my point.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Well, I agree with you on that. I absolutely agree
with you on that. Thank you so much. Good night.
Let me go to dawn in Indiana. Don No Bible talk,
go ahead down.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
All right, no no Bible talking. Deed. You know, I
was inspired to listen. I got on the radio late,
but I was inspired because this afternoon I heard you
theorize about Trump and Putin winning the Nobel Peace Prize,
and I have to say, kind of infuriated me. But
(38:32):
maybe that's the wrong term. Cuton absolutely cannot rend the
Peace Prize for ending even if he does, and the
war that he started by invading Ukraine. That's that's just
it can't be.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm sure that's a solid Look, that's a solid argument.
I can't disagree with that. I simply sometimes say things
that that I want people to think and respond to.
And you did that, thank you very much.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Yeah. And of course some of the other things like, uh,
you know, let's put him in the ring and fight
it out.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
That wasn't my suggestion, Robert from Boston.
Speaker 8 (39:09):
But you remember how Zolensky uh replied to Trump. You know,
I'm not playing a game, and you know that goes
along with refuting all of that. But anyway, one thing
that I wanted to point out, I could say, I'm
slightly more hopeful than I was yesterday because it doesn't
sound like Trump gave up as much as I feared
he might have. But this afternoon I caught a uh
(39:34):
a broadcast uh on the internet. But the Times of
London was comparing the readout of that call between that
which was produced by the Americans and by the Russians,
and uh.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
They're always going to be They're always going to be different.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Well okay, but so here goes Putin, among other stipulators,
said that for this to occur, there must be a
complete cessation of all arms supplies and all intelligence supplied
to the Ukrainians. Now, that did not appear anywhere in
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the US read out, and it's a pretty significant qualifier.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Of course it is. Of course, it's called negotiations. That's all.
You got to start somewhere. I didn't expect Putin to
say we are going to withdraw all our troops, mister Trump,
because we made a mistake. We never should have invaded.
That's not the way it goes. So keep be hopeful.
Just let's be hopeful again.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
I am slightly more hopeful than I was.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
But good down. Thanks, don talk soon, have a great night.
Done for the night, Rob Brooks, thank you, Maria, thank you.
Thank all the callers, all the listeners, All dogs, all cats,
all pets go to heaven. That's my pal, Charlie ray
Is the past fifteen years ago in February. That's why
all your pets are who had passed. They loved you
and you love them. I do believe you'll see them again.
(40:59):
Hope see and tomorrow night on Nightside. Have a great
Wednesday everyone, and you can find me on Facebook Nightside
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It's nice eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Undoing you crazy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, we're moving right along here, and we're basically
reacting to what happened today in well happened today in
Moscow and in Washington. President Trump and President Putin spent
ninety minutes on the phone this morning. Sounded like they
were there from about ten o'clock until eleven thirty whatever,
(00:30):
ninety minutes, and there seems to be at least the
beginnings of an agreement. Apparently Russia has agreed. To let
me make sure I characterized this correctly. This is from
the White House readout. It said Russia the leaders agreed
(00:53):
that the movement to peace will begin with an energy
and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technic negotiations on implementation
of a Maritimes ceasefire in the Black Sea. Black Sea
very is very important to Russia. Full ceasefire and permanent peace.
The first step is to stop hitting one another's energy, infrastructure,
(01:15):
energy and infrastructure. That's a step, small step, but a
step in the right direction. So my question is are
you optimistic? Who do you trust? So far, most of
the people who have called have said they don't trust Putin.
I suspected more of you would say that you don't
(01:36):
trust either. But sometimes it's the interest of it's in
the mutual interest of two countries, in this case Russia
and the United States, to try try to end hostilities
between one of those two countries and a third party
here Ukraine. So that's where it is. I wish I
(01:59):
had something more specific to offer. I just want to
hear from you six one, seven, two, five, four, ten
thirty one line there. Six one, seven, nine three, one,
ten thirty. It's kind of a deep topic, but I
think my audience is capable of handling this topic. I
want to know if you are encouraged by a ninety
minute phone conversation that also apparently was parenthetically a conversation
(02:23):
that talked about maybe the National Hockey League teams, probably
like an all star team play against the Russian Professional
Hockey League, the Continental League khal KHL. I don't think
that the Russian team would do particularly well because a
lot of the Russians are over here, as I think
(02:46):
we know. But sometimes sports becomes the bridge to piece.
It's it's it's true. Let's go to Robert in Boston. Robert,
you're gonna start us off this hour. Thanks for your
patience you held through the newscast.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Go right ahead, Robert, Yeah, can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I can hear you? Find circle right ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
No, I just got this.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It may sound kind of uh strange or just comical,
but I'm thinking, like, these guys are fighting so much, right,
why don't they just go three of them get in
the ring like they didn't the old day, fight it out,
and whoever win got the decision.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, I think that in the old days, maybe that
happened when uh so, when when the Visigoths ended up
uh in a war with someone I don't know, I
don't know who they who, the visi Goths would take
it over by.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But uh yeah, they're acting like but but but Trump
and all of them are acting like they're the gods
of the of the world and they're just human being.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
They are just human beings. But I'll tell you there's
been a lot of human beings going back to you know,
Hannibal and the elephants crossing the Alps, and Julius Caesar
and all the way up to modern day. I think
what you're saying is wonderful to think that somehow we
would pick our top fighter. I think they did that.
(04:19):
It was a rocky movie, if I'm not mistaken. I mean,
it's the movies. But it's the movies, but it's not
real life.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Let them slugged it out and whoever comes out of winner.
That's what the decision is, all right, that's they're making.
Making it too complicated, and too many people are dying.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Like you know, there's a lot of people who are dying,
a lot of property that has been destroyed, there's no
question about that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And they have they have no sympathy or compassion for
people's lives. I mean, you can't take people's lives.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And you're not God.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
God is God, and God is looking all of this
is happening.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
He doesn't like it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, you look, it's happening all over the world. It's
happening all over the world. It's human nature. You see
it in you see it in the Middle East. You
see it in Iran. They want nuclear weapons and their theocrats.
You see it everywhere. Unfortunately, I guess that's that's that's
the way the world will end. Someday will blow ourselves up.
(05:25):
But let's hope not. Let's see what we can do
to me.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I have many grandkids and they need to live a.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Mary free life.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Not yes, so far I only got one. But I
join you, Robert, I join you in that in that wish. Hey,
have you called the show before? Is this your first time?
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Now?
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I call it before one time?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well, do me favorite coming back more often? Okay? Thanks Robert,
talk to you. Thank you, Yes, sir, you as well,
Thank you, my friend. Good night. Six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty. Triple eight nine two nine ten thirty
is one line at six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. Let's keep rolling here, and I want people
waiting around. Let's go to Bow and holding Massachusetts. I
(06:08):
know we're holding. Is hi Bo welcome? How are you?
I can guarantee Bo has never called the show before
because I do not remember.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah before, No, I tell me okay, okay, and I
remember my European accent.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yes. But the only other Bow I've ever I've ever
met with were not met herd Of was a guy
pitch for the Who's That Both?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Eric?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Well, No, I never met Bo Derek. No, No, I
didn't even think of Bo Derek. There was a picture
for the Angels way back in the day called Bo Bolinski,
so that's the third we got both from holding Bo
Bolinsky and both Derek. So what's your thought, Bo? What's
your thought?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
First of all, there are there are two things I
want to say here, and I hope I'm not out
of place. First of all, any initiative for peace, it's
not more than welcome, it's fantastic, right. So what our
president is doing is I think the right thing. Now,
do we trust Puttin? Do we don't trust Putting? That's
a different story. Of course, we don't trust who don't
(07:10):
trust anybody?
Speaker 7 (07:11):
Right?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And you're of our readers, probably we don't trust Putting.
But the initiative for peace is a very well come thing.
The second thing I wanted to say, it's and again
I don't want to sound out of place, but how
many people can they? And some they are your listeners.
Can they even point to Ukraina is on the map?
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Not many?
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Do they know?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Not many? They know about the history of Soviet Union,
how these republics were pretty much created, what the conflicts are,
what the ethnical problems are in there? I can tell
you I'm Romanian, and the Romanians they have no rights
in Ukrainia. They don't have charges they are not allowed
to speak Romanian. And actually, by the Ribnrop Molotov part
(07:57):
in nineteen forty a part of Romania was give on
to Ukraine. It's called the Nor. I can check it
with a big majority of Romanian population that they have
no rights and they will never have rights in there.
And now Ukraina wants to join European Union, wants to
join NATO. I mean, it's a joke. This is a joke,
this is a fund.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well Ukraine one, well, wait, hold on both for a second.
I'm very empathetic to what you say, and I'm so
respect Look, I know I don't know a lot about
Eastern Europe compared to you, but I certainly know Bucharest
is the capital of Romania.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Yes I have.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I have walked by Romanian soldiers in Poland in the
nineteen eighties when I was covering Poland for WBS TV,
and I must tell you the Romanian soldiers, now again,
this was this was before the wall fell. They scared
(08:54):
the heck out of me. I'll tell you, man, they
looked at me like, what are you doing here? It's
my only, my only interchange with with Romanians. But but
before that's before the wall fell. And look the Romanian people.
I have subsequently met Romanians who are amazing people. So
I have all the respects of your world for you
(09:14):
and and for people from Romania to have undergone, undergone
what you did undergo. I mean, it was horrible. I
have a friend of mine who talked to me about
what it was like to live under the boot of
the Soviets. Uh that that people, Yes, it was not
(09:36):
easy at all, So I agree.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I only to remember that, and to remember the revolution
in eighteen nine, to remember the fail the fall of
the Soviet Union, the fall of the Eastern Blow, the
fall of the Warsaw Pact, and to remember all the
and to remember actually the light which came from the
United States when Vegan was president and Gormachos president, which
is Parastroika, and to remember that there was hope. Probably
(10:02):
now there is hope again. Let's let's thing like this,
there is hope again. Maybe Trump and put In they
can do what Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan they did. And
then of course George w Having George Bush the father
did let me let me ask you both questions with
in the two countries.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Tell me, were you there when Siasco Madi states.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yes, I was in the street, I was in the seat.
I was seventeen years old. I was in the streets.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yes, good for you.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I was in the military from ninety one to ninety three,
then for the Internal Ministry in Romania. I did my
mandatory military service. Then I came to United States in
ninety five and I became a United States citizen. And
I tell you what I don't feel an next part.
I feel that this is my country. And whenever I
come back from Romania, I can tell you I kissed
the ground. I kissed the ground in Logan Airport. That's
(10:54):
what I do.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Let me just say this, bo, you are. You are
my sort of American, okay. I was lucky enough to
be born here, okay. And I have tremendous respect for
people like you who come here from other countries around
the world where living was probably a lot more difficult
than it is here. But come here legally and and
(11:17):
say what you just said. I mean, you lived under
the boot of the Chichesco family, and your family lived
under the boot of Chichisco family, and we can never
we can never ever understand how you and your and
your family and your country people survived. I have a
(11:37):
friend who's Romanian, and he told me how that his
father was uh was was an enemy of the state,
and how that some of his best friends basically squealed
on him, told the block commanders that that his father
(12:00):
was not supporting Chizesco and hit their family paid for it.
So I know I know, not from firstthand experience, but
from hearing from people like you and this other friend
of mine what it was like to liver under a
communist dictatorship. So thank you for calling this show, and
I hope you'll call more off and I joined and
a hope piece that we can give piece a chance.
(12:23):
Thanks bol, Thank you so much. I really am honored
that you would call.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Thank you, my friend, thank you, thank you, good night,
by good night.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Okay. I'll tell you that's a great call. When you listen,
when you realize the experience that that man has had,
it's it's it's extraordinary. The only line open right now
was six one, seven, nine thirty.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I'm beginning to hear some people who are hopeful. I
want to hear from you, whether you're hopeful or not.
But we have to we have to hope, hope that
somehow the situation where you can be resolved and that
the killing can stoff. And also we have to make
(13:05):
sure that Putin complies with whatever peace agreement might be
agreed upon, simple as that. We'll be back on night
Side right after this.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Back to the phones. We're talking about this ninety minute
telephone conversation between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin today, presidents
of Russia and the United States, talking about Ukraine, how
to get a ceasefire in place and perhaps end the hostilities.
I don't want to sound overly optimistic. I think there
(13:46):
might have been a step or two in the right
direction today, and we should applaud that. We don't have
to you don't have to be a Trump supporter to
applaud that. But I think, if, if, if we can
structure something that gives Zelensky confidence and provides enough structure
(14:09):
so that Putin will live by whatever he agrees to,
maybe somehow, some way peace might break out. I'm hopeful.
I'd love to know what all of you think, and
if you want to comment on Trump or Putin here,
that's fine. I can understand some of you might like neither.
(14:30):
I get it. Roger in Foxborough, Roger, next time nights.
I go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (14:34):
I haven't talked in a while.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Dan, Well, Roger, we're here every night for you. Nice
to talk with you tonight. We what's your take on this?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I'm been busy.
Speaker 9 (14:42):
Well, you know, I found it was interesting. One of
the first people to visit Trump when he took office
was Prime Minister Modi of India. Yes, and the Indians
have a great concern here. They're you know, they look
upon the European colonialist oppressors. And for Trump to separate
himself from the Europeans really makes it gives an interesting
dynamic to this whole thing, saying, hey, you know, we're
(15:03):
not dealing with him. This is between US and Russia.
These other people they can sort things out for themselves.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I had not thought of that like that. When when
you bring the Modi and I think that mody.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
And trust he's on the work against China.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
And this is the thing is if we can if
we I'm not saying I want to see Putin benefit
from this, but if if he can accept a limited
piece of some sort a lot of people in Russia
might sit down and have a beer with Ukrainians and
say what was it all about, and then maybe decide
maybe putin. He's wagging the dog with this war. If
we can get him to back down on this war,
(15:43):
even if it's only temperary, even if he thinks he's
gonna come back later and do something, he may not see.
You know, every dog is his day, but his day
might be done, you know after this. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I know, I know that that I believe that he
There were there were reports a couple of years ago
that he had a some sort of disease and they
were they were looking at pictures of him. So, like
anyone else, he's mortal. He's only going to be here
for so long.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
And I think, as I say, if if Russia just
goes to hell and the Europeans think they're just going
to come in and you know, loot the place, you know,
their resources and stuff, Indy, China's going to move in.
But like I say, if we try to be fair
to the Russian people, never mind putin just the Russian people,
India would back us against China and they would be
willing to say. But if it's just another European colonialist
(16:32):
power grab here. Ultimately, India might say the hell with y'all,
We'll let China do it, and and then we've got
China fifty miles away from Alaska, not Russia, you know.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
And yeah, that's why I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I don't think that's going to happen. I think that
that whenever Putin US either leaves office or is removed
from office, there will be probably another hardline of replacing him,
unless the generals, the Russian generals are so angry at
Putin at the way I mean, Russia was at odds
on favored to roll into Ukraine that didn't happen, so
(17:06):
so food and underestimated Ukraine's ability to stand up.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Now it was definitely there.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
Approx was up to me, I would have just said,
you violated the buddhifest Achords. They get their nuclear weapons back,
you know.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
But yeah, that I just want to know.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
I couldn't never, I could never hate the Russian people.
I got to go there when I was a kid
and meet some people, and you know, I mean, who
would have thought Bresnev was a reformer? But when I
was there in winter of seventy four. You know, it
was like there were people they're willing to talk about
stuff they probably would have been shot for talking about
ten years before.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How did you without don't give me any deep dark
family secrets here, but how was it that you could
be in Russia as a kid in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
Well, I was fifteen and I had my I had
my sixteenth birthday in Moscow, I had a potty and
I went over on a trip. A friend of mine's
mother was a teacher in the Math Teachers Association with
sponsoring a journey over there for winter vacation, and and
so it was, you know, the Communist Party was and
we were like guests of honor because we were from
(18:13):
Massachusetts and at the time, Massachusetts, you know, everybody was
singing the Beg song Massachusetts. It was the biggest hit
in the country, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean it was like, well, Russia is one country
that I have never never visited.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
I know, you were on a trip there a couple
of years ago, and then everything went to went to
everything exactly in a handbasket.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
We were we were thinking about that we had done
a trip down the Danube River. Yea, I remember you
talking about it a lot of and and we were
going to try try to pull together something which would
include Moscow in Saint Petersburg, and obviously the international events
overtook it. In Americans, I.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Mean, I mean, I could never hate those people, you know,
because like from my experience, you know, they were they
were just as likely to question in their government. Is
that's it's just a question of what can you do?
How can you change things?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
What we have under the boot of a dictatorship. And unfortunately,
if you lived in Russia, even when you were there,
there were KGB people everywhere, there were people spying on
every It was it was a horrible place to be.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
It's like what they were saying, but.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Well, it's like what Cuba is today. And young Americans
have no idea about what it was like. I mean,
this was you know, Hitler horrible, horrible, but Joe Stallen
equally horrible. Would people forget that it was Stalin and
Hitler who signed the Russian German packed in nineteen thirty
nine in which.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
They did Poland. Did you know they were there were.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
Jews fleeing the Russian occupied Poland to get to the
German side, even though they knew how bad it was
over there.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, well I did not know that, but I'm sure
that it was.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
It was. It sounds totally insane.
Speaker 10 (20:00):
But.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Roger, interesting experience. Let me ask you what you had
an interesting experience at the age of sixteen to be
in Russia nineteen seventy four. What sort of work did
you end up doing? Did I did you end up
becoming a teacher? Well?
Speaker 9 (20:19):
I work in a library. Let's say, I thought, I
really can't talk about it. I work in a library,
and I was kind of involved in had extra library
privileges then because I was involved in model Congress and
high school. So I kind of I've always loved books,
and I just so I work in I work in
(20:40):
the let's just say I work. I have access to
things that most people don't have access to.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
We'll leave it at that. We'll let people's imagination run wild.
Roger call more often, will you? You're an interesting guy?
Thank you very much?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Have a good one. Good night. Six one seven four
ten thirty one line there six one seven nine three
one ten thirty. We're talking about I mean today, we
may look back on today and say that was the
moment in time when a peace agreement, uh was was begun.
(21:18):
That's what I'm I'm looking for tonight. Now. I know
there are those who are skeptical. I'm somewhat skeptical, but
it's a better big day. And I uh, ninety minutes
for Putin and Donald Trump to be on the phone
with one another for ninety minutes. What do you read
into it? Coming back on Night's Side, I hope to
(21:40):
talk about this till eleven. If not, I got another
topic we can throw out there. But this to me
is interesting because the world is changing, folks, whether you
realize it or not. The world is changing. And you
may have seen the world click a little bit today
in my opinion, But I'd love to hear from you.
(22:02):
Your opinion is what interests me. You've heard mine.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Coming back on Night Side, You're on Night Side with
Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Okay, full lines. I like that. Let's keep rolling here,
Gonna go next to Robert and Wellesley. Robert, are you optimistic? Here?
Go right ahead?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (22:25):
Well, Dan, maybe I could go with Ronald Reagan's philosophy
of trust but verified and I think and the adage
of if if both sides are talking there there is hope.
And I also have a comment with regards to your
(22:46):
one of your callers suggesting that we have a contest
like a boxing match or something between uh, between two
leaders and ever since the biblical story of David versus
go if I don't know, there will be too many
kickers on that.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, no, I know that. Well, you know we've had
some of those things. Was it Alexander Ham Hamilton and
Aaron Burr? It didn't that work out too well? Not mistaken? Yeah,
so yeah, I mean, interesting idea, and it would be lovely,
but I don't know, you want to put the fate
of a nation between you know, a mortal battle here.
(23:25):
I just thought it was an interesting, interesting suggestion by Robert,
But we kind of that sort of thing works in
the movies, not in real life. But I'm with you
on this, trust but verify and as long as they're
talking there, as long as they're talking talking, there's some hope.
So I'm with you. I'm writing the money with you.
Thank you much, Thank you. All right, talk, So we're
(23:46):
going to go next to who we got here, Jim
and Saugus. Jim, you were next to Night said welcome. Hello, Jim,
good sir, what's your take here, Jim?
Speaker 10 (24:00):
Uh? My take is this, I spent a lot of
time in Ukraine. Uh, volunteered there, Yes, yes, and I've
seen first chance. Uh what Putin has done and the
fact that our president is even going to entertain some
(24:27):
kind of ceasefire is insane. So Zelenski has said that
he will go for a thirty days ceasefire, right and
Putin has said no, I'm not going to do that.
But yet, Yeah, I don't know. We want to somehow.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Okay, so let's let's let's let me ask you this.
When was the last time you were in Ukraine.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
I've never been to Ukraine, so I was there last
October twenty twenty four, all right, and what was the spirit?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
What was the spirit of the people when you were there?
I know how long you were there. But to get
a chance to talk to the Ukrainian people, are they tired?
Are they are they intent on continuing this? What? What's
the spirit there?
Speaker 10 (25:27):
At this point time? They have a great spirit in
Ukraine and they are going to fight for their country.
They are not going to put up with somebody invading
their country.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Like pop has started.
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Okay, I think yet.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
We can't forget that he invaded their country.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh, there's no question about it. There's no question about that.
That's indisputable. There's no no question about that. But my
question to you is this. Okay, now, I know you
probably are not a fan of Donald Trump, which is fine,
but what would did you like to see Trump do? Well,
what would you like to see the United States do,
if anything, to try to bring the hostilities to uh close?
(26:11):
What do you think should be if anything?
Speaker 10 (26:13):
Yeah, what should be done is to tell them to
retreat from the country, go back to their own country.
And that the Ukrainians say, like the way they want
to live.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So how do you do that? How do you do
how that? That's an interesting theory. How do you make
that reality?
Speaker 11 (26:38):
Well?
Speaker 10 (26:38):
I think what we do, which you put pressure on them, Right,
so we've retreated from our allies that have been trying
to put pressure on Russia could get out of there.
Now the United States is saying they're not going to
condemn what has happened over the last three years. Right
in that Nations vote, we voted with Belarus, we voted
(27:02):
but North Korea, and we voted with Russia. So who
are we as a country right now.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I okay, get it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Okay, So again I'm asked. What I'm trying to get
at is this, Uh, maybe we would have been better
to have Joe Biden. I think you think probably Biden
did a great job in terms of Ukraine.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Oh god, no, look, okay, good enough.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
I am not by any stretch of the emn redstret
Republic in my whole life.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Ragon Okay, no problem, no, Probert, that's fine, that's fine.
My question is this, Okay, when Trump was president from
twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one, how many countries did
Putin invade?
Speaker 10 (27:53):
Scarcely Da? Why while they were dancing with each other?
Speaker 9 (27:59):
Seriously, No, I'm asking I'm asking that.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I'm just asking you as an honest question. Okay, how
many countries you could use your advance? You can use
your answer advantageously if you want so. None, Joe Biden
watched the Russian troops mass on the border and they evaded.
And I think Biden did a fairly good job under
(28:24):
the circumstances of the invasion. I've said that publicly. I
won't back down that. Now, maybe maybe Putin looks at
Trump a little differently than he looks at Biden. Do
you think that's possible or no?
Speaker 10 (28:40):
Oh, he definitely does.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Okay, Now do you think if he was looking at
Trump as a patsy, how many countries should have putin
invaded when Trump was president the first time?
Speaker 10 (28:58):
No, she never would have done it under Trump. Do
you understand that he never would have acquiesced? And so
he was waiting Trumpets set him up, and then when
Biden was president that was his time to go in.
He's not going to do it under Trump? He didn't
he And do you think that he's really going to
(29:21):
exit Ukraine under Trump? No? What's going to happen is
he's gonna I don't know that he has right now? Okay,
do you know the end that he that Russia has
right now?
Speaker 9 (29:32):
When you're great, I want to know you that.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, the dun dumbass region in the east. Yes, I'm
a little familiar with that. Familiar.
Speaker 10 (29:41):
So what's going to happen to ye? Now they're going
to come to some settlement. Now, he took over PRIMEA
right now, he's going to take.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Over second when did he take over CRIMEA?
Speaker 10 (29:56):
Oh twenty fourteen?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, and who was president that right? I know that that,
but the audience doesn't Obama.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
That was Obama of course said Okay, Trina was in
a back off.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yep.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
Now he's They're in other areas probably, and let them.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Know you're not. Yeah, Jim, you're making my argument for
me here. You're making it too easy. What I'm saying
is maybe maybe Putin looks at Trump with a little
bit of apprehension. He didn't have a lot of apprehension
when Obama was president fourteen. Okay, why are you laughing
(30:43):
at that? I mean, are you laughing at what?
Speaker 10 (30:46):
Putin is not looking at Trump with apprehension?
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Well?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
What what? What do you think? How do you think
he what do you think he thinks he's going to
get out of Trump? I mean, if he thought Trump
was a patsy, why didn't he invade you Ukraine in
twenty seventeen, eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
Or twenty because now he has control over it and now.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
So he waited for Trump to leave the White House. Jim, think, Jim,
you're making my argument. Don't make it so easy. He
waited until Trump left the White.
Speaker 10 (31:18):
House made Yeah, listen to my argument.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I'm here in your argument. But you you were telling
me at this point that somehow after Biden allowed this
to occur. Now Trump has to clean up Biden's mess.
At least he's talking to to Putin today. I know
you don't have any faith in him. I don't have
a lot of faith in him, but at least I
(31:43):
have a little bit of faith that maybe, maybe, maybe
in some weird way, Putin is a little apprehensive of Trump,
that Trump's the more of a wild card than Biden was.
That's all. Hey, I got to run because it's I
got a break, Jim, thank you very much for me. Well,
(32:04):
I appreciate you too as well. It was it was
a good conversation. At least I felt it was. I
hope you did as well. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 10 (32:10):
No I did you? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Good night, good night. We'll take a break. I got
Mike in West Roxbury, I got down in Indiana, I
got Steve in New York. And I even get a
couple more in if you want, try six one, seven
thirty or six months. The only two lines are six
one seven thirty? What am I saying? Not even reading
my own screen?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Be back right after this now, back to dan Way
line from the Window World Nights Side Studios on WBZ
News Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
We're getting everybody in here. Let's go first to Mike
and west Roxbury. Mike, you next on nightside.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Welcome over going.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Going fine for me? How's it going for you?
Speaker 6 (32:50):
A little bit of a call, though, I'll live. Okay,
So I want I want to go back all wave here. Okay, sure,
okay's probably been been. Everyone's been pondering this far such
a while. Now let's go back to what was the
original reason. I have my thoughts for this, Okay, what
(33:11):
was the original reason Putin went In told his commanders
general to go call over the border.
Speaker 10 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well, Putin has always said that the greatest uh disaster
of the twentieth century was the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
Do I think that he thinks he can put the
Soviet Union back together? No, But I do think that
he wants to to protect Mother Russia.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Somewhat and in the formans right.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, And the Dambas region on the eastern part of
Ukraine is predominantly Russian for a number of reasons, and
he felt that he had from his perspective that that
he had a responsibility to restore that part of Ukraine
to right. That's why he invaded. Now, if he liked
(34:03):
to have won and installed a puppet in Ukraine like
he has in Belarus, absolutely, But I think that's the
reason for the for the evasion. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Now here's my anything. We're in the twenty first century
with twenty twenty five, okay, right, You would think he
would he would. I mean, unless he's wacked or has
sometimes mental derangement or whatever. You would think a lot
of people would say, you know what, live and let live,
leave it alone.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
But he's a kg B guy. He's a kg B
guy entre life. Yeah, you know, so he was just
going to say what we're dealing with here. I don't
know that he's going to have some sort of miraculous
transition in his seventies to become John Lennon if you
you know, and seeing you know, imagined.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
But I mean, if he's looking, are you still there, dad?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah? I am a listener. Yeah, I'm listening.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
If he's looking to be you know, some type of
a monifor for for his country, I mean maybe a
small percentage might might might might call along with it,
But I I think he's pursuing it the wrong way.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I agree with you. I absolutely think he's pursuing it
the wrong way. But here's where we are. How do
we how do we turn this back back? And I'm
hoping that the start of a conversation today might begin
a process that somehow, some way, because look, this thing
could could have been exploded the last three years if
(35:36):
we had made a mistake, if they had hit NATO troops,
then you know, this is a disaster waiting to happen.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Oh I would have it would have been held to pay.
Oh my god, we would We would have had multiple
black eyes figuratively speaking. But you know what I think
has to happen, And and this happened slightly about a
year ago. If you recall one, a lot of Russian
troops wouldn't gates are certain a certain groups, whether it's
(36:03):
bell Rus or Crimea or wherever it was. Okay, well,
I think it has to happen. Everybody has to. Russia
has to just lay down their arms and say, you
know what, guys, we don't want to do this anymore.
But then the Putin would have their heads probably exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I think that's a pipe dream, but it's a wonderful
pipe dream. Hey, Mike, I gotta run. Thanks so much
for calling. I was a great hear from my West
Roxbury listeners. Thanks man, talk to you soon. Cool, good night.
Let's go to Steve in New York. Steve want to
get you, Dawn and Jean and so Gret ahead Steve.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
All right, so I got thirty seconds then, right, Dan,
I'm not gonna I give you more than.
Speaker 11 (36:42):
I know you will.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
So chill on to you and you listen as I
have to say that firsthand, Putin cannot be trustedn't we
know that? And you know that, and I know you're
a ray man like me. You remember everything that pretty
much anybody says to you, and you absorber. So I'm
gonna do a refresher course that again, World War three
(37:04):
will be at the Euphraid's River because it is drying up.
Two hundred million soldiers will die. Whether God has just
the Chinese military or North Korea or a combination, but
that will happen. We're in the birth banks of the
end times, meaning you know.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, I don't know why you want to go there
with this this late in the show.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Okay, what's your question.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I gotta be honest with you. I I have no idea.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
What you're talking about, Well, the book, the Revelation, that's
very comforting. I just want to comfort comfort your listeners.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Wells are here that you think that's going to comfort
my listeners?
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Well, well, yeah, the Revelation explains Dan what's gonna happen.
So it's comforting.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I'm gonna I'm going to do a show at some
point on the.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Bible and that would be great.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
That'd be great, and I.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Want you to call in. Okay, but tonight we're gonna
stick with Trump and food O. Thanks man, all.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Right, you can't be trusted, that's my point.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Well, I agree with you on that. I absolutely agree
with you on that. Thank you so much. Good night.
Let me go to dawn in Indiana. Don No Bible talk,
go ahead down.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
All right, no no Bible talking. Deed. You know, I
was inspired to listen. I got on the radio late,
but I was inspired because this afternoon I heard you
theorize about Trump and Putin winning the Nobel Peace Prize,
and I have to say, kind of infuriated me. But
(38:32):
maybe that's the wrong term. Cuton absolutely cannot rend the
Peace Prize for ending even if he does, and the
war that he started by invading Ukraine. That's that's just
it can't be.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm sure that's a solid Look, that's a solid argument.
I can't disagree with that. I simply sometimes say things
that that I want people to think and respond to.
And you did that, thank you very much.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Yeah. And of course some of the other things like, uh,
you know, let's put him in the ring and fight
it out.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
That wasn't my suggestion, Robert from Boston.
Speaker 8 (39:09):
But you remember how Zolensky uh replied to Trump. You know,
I'm not playing a game, and you know that goes
along with refuting all of that. But anyway, one thing
that I wanted to point out, I could say, I'm
slightly more hopeful than I was yesterday because it doesn't
sound like Trump gave up as much as I feared
he might have. But this afternoon I caught a uh
(39:34):
a broadcast uh on the internet. But the Times of
London was comparing the readout of that call between that
which was produced by the Americans and by the Russians,
and uh.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
They're always going to be They're always going to be different.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Well okay, but so here goes Putin, among other stipulators,
said that for this to occur, there must be a
complete cessation of all arms supplies and all intelligence supplied
to the Ukrainians. Now, that did not appear anywhere in
(40:12):
the US read out, and it's a pretty significant qualifier.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Of course it is. Of course, it's called negotiations. That's all.
You got to start somewhere. I didn't expect Putin to
say we are going to withdraw all our troops, mister Trump,
because we made a mistake. We never should have invaded.
That's not the way it goes. So keep be hopeful.
Just let's be hopeful again.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
I am slightly more hopeful than I was.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
But good down. Thanks, don talk soon, have a great night.
Done for the night, Rob Brooks, thank you, Maria, thank you.
Thank all the callers, all the listeners, All dogs, all cats,
all pets go to heaven. That's my pal, Charlie ray
Is the past fifteen years ago in February. That's why
all your pets are who had passed. They loved you
and you love them. I do believe you'll see them again.
(40:59):
Hope see and tomorrow night on Nightside. Have a great
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