August 21, 2025 • 39 mins
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Cultural archivist David Bieber, who was an important part of WBCN and WFNX, joined us to chat about items in his archive that helped define Boston in the 70's. Included will be the detailed recounting of the night that Mayor Kevin White likely prevented a riot at the Boston Garden by springing the Rolling Stones from jail and getting them to the Garden in time to do the show! David was at that show and has the ticket stub. What events, venues, stores, restaurants, and more pop into your mind as helping define the seventies in Boston?
Cultural archivist David Bieber, who was an important part of WBCN and WFNX, joined us to chat about items in his archive that helped define Boston in the 70's. Included will be the detailed recounting of the night that Mayor Kevin White likely prevented a riot at the Boston Garden by springing the Rolling Stones from jail and getting them to the Garden in time to do the show! David was at that show and has the ticket stub. What events, venues, stores, restaurants, and more pop into your mind as helping define the seventies in Boston?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We're exploring Boston's seventies through a number of artifacts brought
in by our guest David Bieber, who is a cultural archivist.
And we're not only addressing music, but politics and sports,
et cetera. And in a moment, we're going to hear
about where we have something from the time Mayor Kevin
White saved Boston from a riot. You know what I'm
(00:29):
talking about. Take a guess. Also, I'd love to you
are definitely included in this. As you hear these stories,
I want to hear your story. I want to hear
about the story that's related to the thing you hear about.
If you hear about the Blizard of seventy eight, fine
a Red Sox game you're at, because we have Red
Sox stuff, I want to hear about it. Six one, seven, two,
(00:49):
five for ten thirty also, and I'll even show you
how it's done in a little while. I told you
a bit about this Dave Maynard coffee mug. It says
Maynard in the morning. I have a day manute story.
He actually kind of picked me up hitchhiking, and I'll
share that story. If you remind me, I'll share that story.
But of course paramount of paramount of importance is our
(01:12):
year calls and we go to Chris in Tewksbury. Thanks
for being with us. Chris, say, how did David Bieber?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Hello, David Bieber and Bradley Drake. My father drove himself
to his job at the Boston editored. Well, he used
to be the Boston edited and he we get the
work is beyond me, I.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Mean the in the Blizzard of seventy eight.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Great, okay, so he was an essential worker.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They didn't even talk about that was not even.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
A phrase back, I know, but that's what he begin direct.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, he used to be a reader, reader, but that
he was a super vinum.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
And the lights did the lights stay on thanks to him?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yes, okay, yes, that's good.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
We all have stories about the blizzard. I want to
tell my story later too. Well, good for him, did
he How old were you then? What do you remember? Personally?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I was dying excuse me, ninetys old and he lived
to be here three day fifty five eighty two.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Thank you for that. I appreciate it. My situation in
the Blizzard of seventy eight and David has I've posted
a picture of the cover of the paper with the
picture of one twenty eight with the cars all covered
in snow. My situation was I was going to school
in Durham and Durham, New Hampshire. You and h and
(02:42):
I heard about all this storm and all about the
big waves down in Hampton Beach where my former roommates
were living on Boar's Head, and I didn't want to
miss out. So about noontime I started hitchhiking and got
to got kind of close with the roads were closed.
I had to walk maybe four miles to get to
Boy's Head, and power lines were down. The National Guard
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is ferrying people back and forth. A couple of bars
were open. I had a black Russian and I could
see houses pushed right back off the foundations, and one
house had a hole in it put there by a
boulder the size of a folkswagon, and you could go
walk right in the house with this hole in the wall.
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Let's go to Jay g and Winthrop.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Hello, John, the Rocks to Boston. This is such great
radio to hear you guys together on the radio.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
It's outstanding. So you know what after I've had the
honor of visiting the archives. The collection's crazy, Like I
told Bradley and many others, it's like the David the
Raider of the Lost Rock and it's it's it's just overwhelming.
And I actually got to visit the Ernie Box Center collection.
(04:00):
You had to the other night, which was yeah, it
was outstanding. This anyway, talk.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
About his installations after you hang up, Well, he'll go
into his other installations that folks.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Yeah, they're yeah, unbelievable, the verb Hotel blah blah blah.
It's outstanding. But you know what I wanted to ask
you about. I always wanted to ask you about was
the Led Zeppelin seventy five riots for the Corncer. You know,
when they broke into the garden. Yeah, did you have
anything interesting, you know, behind the scenes on what went
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on there?
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Yeah, well that was on our hit list for tonight
as a matter of fact. So you're leading the witness
and you're doing a good job, dear. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
So this was in January January sixth, which is always
I guess a perpetual riot date. Anyhow, January sixth of
nineteen seventy five, there was none of this bringing, you know,
order your tickets online or anything like that. You basically
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have to show up at the venue and wait in line.
And some people camp down overnight. And this was February,
brutal winter. So I think the kindness of the officials
at the Garden said, let's let these people in so
they don't freeze and become just They're not going to
be able to go to the concert if their frozen statues.
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So they let the people in, thousands of people, and
they started to take on the fire hoses and start
spraying each other. They started setting fires. Apparently the concession
stands were invaded, people were getting drunk on the beer.
And what happened in the aftermath of that was Kevin White,
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who three years earlier had saved the event at the
Boston Garden, which we'll talk about the Rolling Stones playing
there in July of seventy two. In February of seventy five,
Kevin White ordained the fact that led Zeppelin was banned
from Boston for five years because of this riot. And
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there was the thing that was so strange about it
that you consider five years later, John Bonham died and
led Zeppelin did not go on tour ever again. I
think they did a couple of one off shows. I
think they did a benefit show in England for Amed Ertigan,
who was the chairman of Atlantic Records and one of
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the founders.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But they never toured again.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
So even though Kevin White's you know, kind of dictate
that the led Zeppelin shows could not happen for five years,
well they never happened at all. No, So it's kind
of sad, kind of unfortunate. But speaking of led Zeppelin,
we want to talk about a few things that we
have here. I have a number of books. Great writer
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named Stephen Davis, who was based in Boston wrote he
was on the led zeppelineur and on the tour plane
and went to all the shows in nineteen seventy five,
and he wrote a book called Hammer of the Gods,
which is still in print nearly fifty years later. And
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I have given Stephen artifacts and other things for his books,
research and memorabilia, and he's always been kind to give
me an acknowledgment and a thank you and the credits.
And I have so many different copies of Hammer of
the Gods. I have it in German, I have it.
The addition that came out in Finland. I have the
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Japanese version and it's so strange to see my name
in the context of all these foreign languages. And one
of the other things that I brought in this evening
is the artifact from the Presence album.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh yes, this is a and I want you to
know you're going to be able to see this because
David and I, I've decided, are going to do a
slideshow and live stream and then I will post it
to my Facebook page, Bradley j Facebook page, so you'll
be able to see all this stuff. So tell them
what I hold in my hand.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Right now, Bradley is doing the five finger discount on
the object, which was used in all four images of
very ordinary, wholesome I guess it would be American family
sitting down for dinner and just hanging out. This black
mysterious object appears in all four photos of the back,
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front and gatefold in the Presence album.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
And this object.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
Was a limited edition promotional only available to friends of
the record company. A friend of mine who worked for
the record company gave me led Zeppelin had their own
customer label, swan Song Records, which is distributed by Atlantic
and of the thousand and Jimmy page, wouldn't you know,
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got number six sixty six the Mark of the Devil.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And you go on number eight twenty okay, And I'm
holding it in my hand. It looks a lot like
the object from two thousand and one A Space Odyssey, right.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
I think that that was probably the reference and the
sourcing for that.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It's exactly black obelisk with a little twist in it
and it says let us have there. It's heavy too,
So I'll get this stuff up on Facebook's so you'll
know of what we speak.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
Yeah, we're gonna compliment the the words with the uh
with the images.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
JG.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
That was a great call. Thank you very much, Thank
you very much. You know, I always tend to run
late because I take the calls first. Angelo and Junior
Junior Iggy is one of the callers. Junior Eggy. I
can't wait to get the Junior Iggy after these. I'm
w b Z.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
We continue with David Bieber, cultural archivist, and he's brought
in a lot of stuff that harkens back to the
Boston of the seventies. Speaking in terms of politics, sports, music,
and culture in general. Before we get to Junior and Angelo.
Very quickly, David, tell people where they can view some
of your installations and see some of the many objects
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that you have. First, there's the verb hotel. Quite an
interesting situation. Tell me about that, the.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Verb Hotel, twelve seventy one Boilston Street. I've had a
sustaining relationship before it was even the verb. It was
Howard Johnson's who was right next door to where Bradley
and I worked at WBCN at twelve sixty five Boilston
and I was introduced to Steve Samuels, the owner of
the property in twenty fourteen. And Steve had a vision
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to do a celebration of Boston music and especially music
that came out of the Fenway area, but by a
greater expanse the Boston general area. And he wanted to
celebrate Boston music, Boston pop culture, and Boston media. And
Steven Minutes, the owner of the Phoenix, introduced me to
Steve Samuels, and we were off to the Racist And
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that was eleven years ago.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
So in the lobby, in.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
The corridors, in the sixty linear foot display case individual rooms.
There are rooms dedicated to Aerosmith, to the cars, to
the rolling Stone.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Did those rooms have your stuff? Cars stuff?
Speaker 7 (11:39):
And they all they're very specific devoted to the celebration
of those particular acts.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
People don't steal it.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
They've been very, very kind to this point. I'm super
super surprised. We also have kind of they also electrified.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Eight thousand volts pulsing through your body because you wanted
to touch that.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Call down the front desk. Yeah, we got another one.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Yeah, who touched the cars photo bring the fry later?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, where else?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
And also at the Wang Theater part of the Box Center,
I have a room to David Bbar Archives room for Farhoff,
which is the Folk Americana and Roots Hall of Fame.
And that's the celebration of those three categories of music.
And that's an ongoing, sustaining installation. I just came off
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of doing an installation used to be the out of
town news kiosk in right dead right ahead.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Do you own that now? No?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Although, and taking the a house yeah right right, I'm
collecting buildings now. Actually, it was kind of curious because
I think the town of Cambridge ones that and they spent.
This is kind of interesting. I think they spent five
years and four million dollars renovating a four hundred and
fifty square foot place. But that aside. It is bright,
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it is beautiful, it's very welcoming. About a third of
it is used for tourism. There's a person there who
dispenses maps and information what's happening in Cambridge that night
that week. And Chris Faron is a friend of mine
who has an organization Binge behid JN Boston Institute for Journalism,
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and he connected me to do an installation there which
was up for about three months, of the history of
media that came out of Cambridge. So I had a
Cambridge Observer newspaper from the eighteen nineties. I had the
Old Mole, which is a radical publication. Cridaddy magazine actually
originated in Cambridge. I have a couple copies, including the
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first one which sold for fifteen cents. The Cambridge Phoenix
started there in nineteen sixty nine and brought Side and
so many other publications. But so I do installations all
over town. I've done many things. The Cabot Theater, which
is having a grand reopening after doing significant renovations September fifteenth.
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They're gonna have Steve Winwood. So I bob and weave
and do installations. And I want my things out there
in the sunlight. I want them to be shared with people.
I don't want them hidden away. I know there's gonna
be some kind of degradation in the sense of too
much light, sunlight, fluorescent light.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Whatever, you know.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
But I'm not one of those mint plus people where
if you put your thumbprint on the shrink wrap, it
goes from a plus to a minus.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Okay, first is Angelo, and then we'll get to Junior
Iggy Angelo. You're on w You're on WBZ.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
I don't brad tak it would take on my call.
I was probably like twenty years old, Bobby. We had
that snowstorm and I'll never forget it. And I was
listening to the weather man and they said we were
gonna get a snowstormp but then they said, well, it
didn't look like there was much. But when I seen
that stop coming, I said, this seems like it's gonna
be a big storm. And I'd helped my dad put
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all the plows on the trucks and the next morning
we woke up and we were surprised that we couldn't
even move. So it took us like a couple of
hours before we plot our driveway and stuff. And my
dad says, where also am I going to go? I said,
it's no other places. Oh, so we made a path
down the street and it was like twelve one o'clock
in the morning. I seen fireman running down the street
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with tobargans and when they got to the front of
our house down the other end of the street, they
was surprised that the street was plowed because I guess
they couldn't get a machine. And I guess the machine
came right behind him and there was an amble. The
guy down the street had a heart attack, and they said,
if we hadn't done what they would have did, the
person would have died. So they put a right up
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on us, on the paper and on the firement.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Hope.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You know, I guess the blizzard of seven eight maybe
is the paramount event of the seventies.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
And totally because it had such an impact on everyone.
It was inescapable. You know, it didn't matter if you
were rich or poor. I mean, look, somebody like you
did a great service. You and your and your dad
plowing the street. You know, it is so admirable. I'm
glad that it reached media attention and you got the
you know, congratulations that you so richly deserved.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I guess yeah, I didn't matter how rich you were
if you were Elon Musk and you're stuck. You know,
he's stuck in some bar for a couple of days.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Yeah, And I'll never forget when when I sleep plow
and I've seen the funandloads, even though there was a
car part there and I was I've seen him pick
up a car and the guy who was shocked and
he put him back down again. It was it was
very in the snow.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
The guy was in the car.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
Whops, no, no, that he was a person who was
doing the plowing, lifted the car up and didn't realize
that he lived to the car.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh I thought. I thought it was even more surprising
if there was somebody in the car. And now we
find out who Junior Iggy is. That is ack of
a name, because I can't get over it. I will
remember that name forever. Junior Eggy. Hi, you're on w
b Z.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
Hey, great show. Uh I listened to earlier I just
you know, caught the Peter Wolf thing and uh, I
had to say, well, friends of mine, we used to
truck in from Foxborough and one of the great shows
we see him with Dwayne Dwayne Almond and I'll never
forget it. You know, he got right to him. Where
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was that show that was at the Music Hall? Yeah,
but you know I saw some great shows in the
in the Tea Party with Leon Mussel and Elvin Bishop
and it was it was a great time. Even Lou Reed,
I remember saying Lou Reed just to say that was
his home away from home. Well.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
The thing is the.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Thing that's fascinating about Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground
is that people associate the Velvet Underground with New York
and Andy Warhol. But during that period of the Tea
Party's existence from nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy, the
Velvet Underground and I've got many many posters of theirs
because every show, every act got their own poster. But
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the Velvet Underground played more than forty times in Boston
during that three and a half year period, and they
didn't play New York once.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Wow, And why do they not play New York.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Like he's like Junior Iggy said, they love Boston.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Where did they stay when they were in Boston? Did
they stay at somebody's house or what? Does anybody know?
That's kind of that's a hard question.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I guess.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Well, it's almost like you could play and turn around
and go back if New York was their home base,
because you know, three and a half hour ride.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
But you know, they had friends.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
There were a lot of Once again, you could see
this in Peter Wolfe's book about Cambridge in those days
that there were a lot of Warhol people that were
living like on University Road. Ed Hood, who was part
of the Warhol you know family, so to speak, and
appeared in a number of his movies. And Edie Sedgwick
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hung out in Cambridge as the Castle Wolf. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah,
but yeah, And it's funny that you mentioned Dwayne Almond
because there is a kind of celebrated calendar from the year.
It was actually May of nineteen sixty nine, and this
is unique that usually, like I said, each act got
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their own dedicated poster, but this was a calendar.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
They did it in.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
April of sixty nine, and the most significant one was
May of sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
You could see the.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Velvet Underground were headlining over the Almond Brothers. The Almond
Brothers opening act. You would have, you know, three nights
of the Who doing Tommy and Ross and Roland Cirk
would be the genius jazz player multi instrumentalists at the
same time, he'd be opening for them, and you would
have led Zeppelin for multiple nights. You would have Rod
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Stewart and Jeff Beck multiple nights, Poko.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
Yeah you know, yeah, I met Jeff Back a couple
of times. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, So how did you make the connection with all
these people?
Speaker 9 (20:25):
I'll tell you my friend of mine, he played, he
worked with making Georgia bands and Willie and and a
few bands and uh and I used to hang out
with him a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
That was a great label, Capricorn Records. They had Willy
and Marshall Tucker and certainly the Almond Brothers and all
the offshoots and then yeah, yeah, sadly at that point
quick succession, Dwayne had a motorcycle accident and died and bury.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
OK yeah, that's too bad, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Okay, great times. I would be remiss, Junior if I
did not ask you about how you got your name.
Speaker 9 (21:01):
Oh, We used to do some Stooges songs in the
early days, you know. And I moved from Syracuse up
to Indian Lake. I live in the wildness now kind
of anonymous, but I still crank. I got five five
turntables still, Junior.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
This has been an award winning phone call. If they
gave out Pulitzer prizes for phone calls, you would win.
And you know why because never in the history of
radio ever, I'm guessing, has there been a call that
included both extensive talk about the blizzard of seventy eight.
Do you talk to maybe you didn't talk about the blizzard?
Did you talk about the blizzard? No, that goes my
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Pulitzer prize before Okay, Well, have a good night.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Keep keep keep those turntables spinning, Okay, darn all right,
we'll get to Robert and Stoughton.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
We'll talk about the time Mayor White saved that maybe
probably saved the town from a riot back in the seventies.
After this on WBC, It's Night.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That is correct. I'm here with friend, colleague and curator
of culture, David Bieber, and we're going to next talk
about an event that happened in Boston. We're focusing on
the seventies in Boston, and there was an event where
there was nearly a riot at the Boston Garden and
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Mayor Kevin White stepped in and took action. And David,
you have an artifact that goes along with that, but
you have the story as well. So cozy up to
that microphone and tell a story.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I was actually at that show, which was July eighteenth,
nineteen seventy two. The ticket which put me on the
floor was six dollars and fifty cent. That's not service charges,
that's not anything. Flat price, six dollars and fifty cents
to see the Stones. Stevie Wonder was the opening act
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and everybody enjoyed that. And of course the original Boston
Garden in July is just a heat box because they
had no air conditioning, and it's a sweat.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
The walls just a sweat.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Absolutely it was. It was dripping, and that in July
night was no exception. And Stevie Wonder did his set
and everyone was happy, and everyone was smoking, everybody was
getting high. And after Stevie did his set, we sat
and waited and expecting the Stones, and nine thirty came,
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and ten o'clock came, and ten thirty came, and eleventh ten,
and we're sitting there, nobody's saying anything, and people are
passing out from the sweat.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And nobody said maybe they'll come later, and nobody said anything.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
There was no announcement. And I remember I was there
with my friend Kim Peace.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
And.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
You know, you invest that kind of time. You don't
want to leave, no, because you know that the minute
you leave, it's like the minute you give up on
the bus, the bus will come. So you gotta stay.
And I think it was well after midnight when Kevin
White came on the stage and he started with the
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bad news. The bad news is the Rolling Stones have
been arrested in Rhode Island.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Uproar craziness. No, it can't be. And then he said,
but the good news is I got them out.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Apparently there was fog that night and the Stones could
not land land at Logan Airport. They had to go
to Warwick, Rhode Island, and in coming out of the
airport to get in their limousines, Keith and making some
security people got into a dust up with some photographers
there and they were arrested. In other words, they couldn't
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pull the don't you know.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Who I Am?
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Card?
Speaker 7 (25:06):
As very evident that they were the Rolling Stones, but
they were nonetheless arrested. And because of all these people
that were waiting and getting anxious and angry and high,
Kevin White knew we had to do something.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Now.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Several years previous, when Martin Luther King was assassinated in
April of nineteen sixty eight, there was a similar diffusing
situation where James Brown was playing at the Boston Garden,
and because so many cities were going up in flames
and there were riots because of the King assassination, the
bright idea was to coordinate with Channel two WGBH and
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show the James Brown concert from the Garden on TV.
That kept everybody in their houses and pacified the situation. Well,
Kevin White was in nineteen seventy two confronted with that
same situation, but it was not and be broadcast on TV.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
It was going to happen live.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
And so apparently what happened was Kevin White made the
arrangement to free the Stones from jail, and there are
mugshots and so forth, and then there was a police
escort that probably was going ninety miles an hour from
More to the Boston Garden, and it was probably around
twelve thirty five, twelve forty when they finally hit the
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stage and did a full set. Kevin White said that
the t is going to stay open extra late tonight.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
It must be cool to be a mayor.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Oh god, yeah, yeah you can.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
You can get it.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well, m Meta stay up, yeah, because I said it.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Right exactly, well it was it was diffusing a potentially
dangerous situation safety, yes, exactly exactly, and it was a
terrific concert. I have a copy right here and Bradley
will just collaborate that. The cover of The Phoenix in
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July twenty sixth, nineteen seventy two, and the headline front
page with the picture of Mick Jagger. The headline is
rolling Stones Colon waiting on the Midnight Ramblers.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And I wish you could see that. And you're going
to be able to because David and I are going
to coordinate and do a video that I'm going to
be able to get up on my Facebook page. So
at some point you'll be able to see it and
we'll you know, have discussions about what it is.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Again.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So you'll know what's going on.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
And there were people, especially critics, who said of all
the shows that they had seen and they were touring
with the Stones, people you know, writers from Rolling Stone
and various other magazines and publications, they said that that
night at the Boston Garden was the best show of
that nineteen seventy two Stones tour.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Must have been immense, almost ecstatic feeling when they did
show up after having waited.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
All absolutely, because you just it was almost a reward
for all the anxiety and the suffering. You know, the
Boston Garden was not getting any cooler with eighteen thousand
people just got the body heat alone was very very significant.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
But you know, good story, good the Garden. Let's go
to Robert and Stowton.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Hi, Robert, you're on Bradley guys there. I remember very well.
I still get the picture, you know, in my album
nineteen seventy eight, I was in Little Teaster. I was
eighteen years old and I was it was just my
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girlfriend was Boston College. And I remember the bridge when
you left in it and you go into Carton Cama
Square and we I took a picture of her on
the left. Inside the snow was so high. You know,
I did fouled with snow and it was unbelievable. So
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I'm just thinking that we don't have this kind of
snow anymore. You know that's true, because we don't. Yeah,
the weather is not the same. I remember because seventy
four seventy when I moved to Boston seventy four, I
remember it was it's just and my brother was met
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Kevin White, by the way, because he organized a soccer
team that we had some friends who was a pu
and to Easter and Wentwood and we form a soccer team.
We used to play at White Stadium now that Josh
and they were fighting Nova and I remember may Or
(29:41):
Why was the one that my brother had to go
to and talk to. So he was a very nice guy.
But remember it very well. I'm still looking at that picture.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
So no, it's funny to think about that. And you know,
where have the winters and where have the snow's gone.
I think there was probably more so in that storms,
and we've had in the winters the last couple of
years in their entirety. But don't forget the winter ten
years ago, twenty fourteen. Yeah, twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Oh, I remember more than one hundred and.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Ten inches of snow that winter.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
And I think that when they took them to the
snow farms and they deposited the snow and made mountains.
I don't think it finished melting until July fourth.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah, so true. But you said, I remember the one
you're talking about. I said, twenty fifteen or fourteen. I
went to a bran tree. They I was hiring my nephew,
lot of guys because all the roof were caving in
too much snow. So we had people shoveling snow. Oh yeah,
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they had enough stores. Yeah, they had.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Snow rakes that they had to take it off of
the roofs and the collapse would happen.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
What a great call. Thank you so much. I don't Oh,
by the way, if there's another winter like twenty fourteen,
twenty fifteen, and it's gonna be maybe worse because a
lot of people have gotten out of the snowplow business
because there's no money in it now. So let's see,
all right, we have fifteen thirteen woman is left and
during that time we'll get to Michael and Attleborough and
(31:12):
we'll talk head to the political arena a little bit
and the phrase, don't blame me. I'm from Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
W b Z It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
We continue with guess David Bieber, and he's brought things
from his archives that reference Boston and seventies. I'm going
to go to one more piece, then go to Michael
and Attleborough, and then try to get Larry and dennisport in.
But while we're doing this at homes, play this little
game with you yourselves. At home, I have a quiz
for you. It's a seventies related quiz. I'm going to
(31:51):
give you a quote and at home, just guess who
did it, and I'll tell you, and David remind me
to give the answer because it would be awful if
I forgot. If I forget before the end of the
r I'll do it next. All here comes your quote,
ladies and gentlemen, who said the following, I love this
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A wise person. It's a wise person who rules the
stars and the fool who's ruled by them. All right,
I know a lot of you know that. Now, David politics,
don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts. What's that all about?
Speaker 7 (32:25):
Well, that was one of the bumper stickers from post
nineteen seventy two election. It was Richard Nixon running for
his second term, which he won. His Democratic rival was
George McGovern, who was a Liberal candidate, was soundly trounced
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by Richard Nixon, and because Massachusetts was the only state
that gave its Electoral College votes to George McGovern, there
were several noteworthy bumper stickers that came out post election.
One was don't Blame Me, I'm from Massachusetts and another
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one was Nixon forty nine Massachusetts one. Nixon was in
the world of hard to believe pre Watergate, immensely popular.
It was the election that was in the cloud of
the hippies versus the hard hats. There was considerable divisiveness
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among the American public. The Vietnam War was raging. You'll
give Nixon and Henry Kissinger part of his cabinet and
his advisor and Secretary of State, and give him credit
for kind of creating relationships with China. A couple of
my favorite artifacts are ping pong paddles, because China was
(33:54):
very much in the Chinese people very much into playing
ping pong.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Do you have Chinese ping punk titles from this era.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Ping pong panels where one paddle has Nixon's face on
one side and chairman mouth.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Oh, is there anything you don't have that you really
really want?
Speaker 7 (34:11):
It's funny that you bring that up, because when I
am out searching at vintage stores or flea markets or
yard sales, I don't go with an intent with a mission.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Get what's good.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
I'm receptive to anything that's out there. I like to
connect the dots of our world. I have things that
go back fifty sixty one hundred years. And it's not
just pop culture and music and media. It's everything. And
it's politics and religion and Frisbees and cool right.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I went to an event where they had a lot
of ventures T shirts on sale and I watched you
hoover them up.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
That was our late friend John Boy Franklin, and I
have shirts with his DNA on them.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Excellent. Now we have Michael and Addleborough.
Speaker 10 (35:02):
Hi, Michael, Hey, guys, I actually got two things. I'll
be quick. My wife and I first day was to
see Random Man at the Aquarius Theater.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:17):
In fact, when I go on Setlist FM, I kept
looking it up at Zeoperium. But anyway, Wolfy comes out
now my wife didn't know. You know, I was open
and uh, you know a big mouth, right, Wolfe comes out.
I jump up, Yo Wolfe And she told me later
on she goes. I said to myself, she said to herself,
(35:40):
what did I get myself into? But anyway, anyway, who's
the black dude, the tall black dude. I think he
might have been called the Master Blaster always.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
I'll give you the backstory on that very quickly. Charles
Daniels Charles Daniels, not to be confused with the country
singer Charlie Daniels. Charles Daniels was also known as the
Master Blaster. Peter Wolf gave him his name the Master Blaster,
and Charles Daniels gave Peter Wolf the name the.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Woof of Goofa.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
And Charles Daniels was the MC at many concerts, especially
the shows at the Boston Tea Party. He became friendly
with a lot of the acts, British acts, especially led
Zeppelin and ten years after. And he was also a
very esteemed photographer. And there was a big, big feature
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about four years ago in the Boston Globe front page
about more than five thousand canisters of thirty six each
image Kodak film that the Master Blaster had shot during
those Housyon days the late sixties early seventies. He had
never developed them. They were close to ninety thousand images.
There was a Kickstarter campaign that was run. Charles sadly
(36:56):
had blood cancer and died a few years ago, but
he did live to see all of these vintage rock
and roll and other images. There was a company, I
think it was in Northwest Canada that processed all these
images and hand delivered it back to Cambridge. And those
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things are works of art and works of beauty, you.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Know, Michael and Edibor. I apologize Sam with Larry and Dennis,
but we're just going to be out of time. I
need to give you the answer to my quiz question.
Who was it that said it's a I want to
read this and not get it's a wise person who
rules the stars and a fool who's ruled by them.
Another icon of the seventies around these parts Darryl Martini,
(37:40):
the Cosmic Muffin. And David has brought a picture of
Daryl Martini. It's like his head shot and a WBC
and advertisement. And once again you were not able to well.
I did a live shot a live video and put
it up on my Facebook page. But we're going to
do a more for I hope, more formal slideshow show
(38:03):
and tell with all these same articles posted on my
Facebook page. In order to find that Facebook page, the
easiest way is go to Bradleyja dot org. That's my
little website. Connections to all my socials are there. That's
bradleyja dot org. You can find everything you need there.
And I have about forty five seconds to take a
(38:24):
story full circle. When I first came on two hours ago,
I said, I hold in my hand a WBZ Boston mug.
It says Maynard in the morning and story associated with
this One time Dave Maynard picked me up Hitcherick and
kind of I was hitchhiking to woods Hole to go
to the vineyard. I went into a drug store on
Charles Street to get directions. He said, where are you going?
(38:48):
I said, uh, what's hold? He said, I'll give you
a ride. He gave me a ride all the way
to the Sagamore Bridge. David Bieber, thanks for all the
work you put in. We only have like fifteen seconds,
but thank you, thank you, thank you. We'll continue this
and make it visible to folks, so they can see
this stuff, and you get five seconds of closing.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
To be continued. I'm still collecting, okay.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And thanks to all. We're going to talk about the
evolution of professional wrestling next on wbs A
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We're exploring Boston's seventies through a number of artifacts brought
in by our guest David Bieber, who is a cultural archivist.
And we're not only addressing music, but politics and sports,
et cetera. And in a moment, we're going to hear
about where we have something from the time Mayor Kevin
White saved Boston from a riot. You know what I'm
(00:29):
talking about. Take a guess. Also, I'd love to you
are definitely included in this. As you hear these stories,
I want to hear your story. I want to hear
about the story that's related to the thing you hear about.
If you hear about the Blizard of seventy eight, fine
a Red Sox game you're at, because we have Red
Sox stuff, I want to hear about it. Six one, seven, two,
(00:49):
five for ten thirty also, and I'll even show you
how it's done in a little while. I told you
a bit about this Dave Maynard coffee mug. It says
Maynard in the morning. I have a day manute story.
He actually kind of picked me up hitchhiking, and I'll
share that story. If you remind me, I'll share that story.
But of course paramount of paramount of importance is our
(01:12):
year calls and we go to Chris in Tewksbury. Thanks
for being with us. Chris, say, how did David Bieber?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Hello, David Bieber and Bradley Drake. My father drove himself
to his job at the Boston editored. Well, he used
to be the Boston edited and he we get the
work is beyond me, I.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Mean the in the Blizzard of seventy eight.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Great, okay, so he was an essential worker.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They didn't even talk about that was not even.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
A phrase back, I know, but that's what he begin direct.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, he used to be a reader, reader, but that
he was a super vinum.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
And the lights did the lights stay on thanks to him?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yes, okay, yes, that's good.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
We all have stories about the blizzard. I want to
tell my story later too. Well, good for him, did
he How old were you then? What do you remember? Personally?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I was dying excuse me, ninetys old and he lived
to be here three day fifty five eighty two.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Thank you for that. I appreciate it. My situation in
the Blizzard of seventy eight and David has I've posted
a picture of the cover of the paper with the
picture of one twenty eight with the cars all covered
in snow. My situation was I was going to school
in Durham and Durham, New Hampshire. You and h and
(02:42):
I heard about all this storm and all about the
big waves down in Hampton Beach where my former roommates
were living on Boar's Head, and I didn't want to
miss out. So about noontime I started hitchhiking and got
to got kind of close with the roads were closed.
I had to walk maybe four miles to get to
Boy's Head, and power lines were down. The National Guard
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is ferrying people back and forth. A couple of bars
were open. I had a black Russian and I could
see houses pushed right back off the foundations, and one
house had a hole in it put there by a
boulder the size of a folkswagon, and you could go
walk right in the house with this hole in the wall.
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Let's go to Jay g and Winthrop.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Hello, John, the Rocks to Boston. This is such great
radio to hear you guys together on the radio.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
It's outstanding. So you know what after I've had the
honor of visiting the archives. The collection's crazy, Like I
told Bradley and many others, it's like the David the
Raider of the Lost Rock and it's it's it's just overwhelming.
And I actually got to visit the Ernie Box Center collection.
(04:00):
You had to the other night, which was yeah, it
was outstanding. This anyway, talk.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
About his installations after you hang up, Well, he'll go
into his other installations that folks.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Yeah, they're yeah, unbelievable, the verb Hotel blah blah blah.
It's outstanding. But you know what I wanted to ask
you about. I always wanted to ask you about was
the Led Zeppelin seventy five riots for the Corncer. You know,
when they broke into the garden. Yeah, did you have
anything interesting, you know, behind the scenes on what went
(04:32):
on there?
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Yeah, well that was on our hit list for tonight
as a matter of fact. So you're leading the witness
and you're doing a good job, dear. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
So this was in January January sixth, which is always
I guess a perpetual riot date. Anyhow, January sixth of
nineteen seventy five, there was none of this bringing, you know,
order your tickets online or anything like that. You basically
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have to show up at the venue and wait in line.
And some people camp down overnight. And this was February,
brutal winter. So I think the kindness of the officials
at the Garden said, let's let these people in so
they don't freeze and become just They're not going to
be able to go to the concert if their frozen statues.
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So they let the people in, thousands of people, and
they started to take on the fire hoses and start
spraying each other. They started setting fires. Apparently the concession
stands were invaded, people were getting drunk on the beer.
And what happened in the aftermath of that was Kevin White,
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who three years earlier had saved the event at the
Boston Garden, which we'll talk about the Rolling Stones playing
there in July of seventy two. In February of seventy five,
Kevin White ordained the fact that led Zeppelin was banned
from Boston for five years because of this riot. And
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there was the thing that was so strange about it
that you consider five years later, John Bonham died and
led Zeppelin did not go on tour ever again. I
think they did a couple of one off shows. I
think they did a benefit show in England for Amed Ertigan,
who was the chairman of Atlantic Records and one of
(06:29):
the founders.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But they never toured again.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
So even though Kevin White's you know, kind of dictate
that the led Zeppelin shows could not happen for five years,
well they never happened at all. No, So it's kind
of sad, kind of unfortunate. But speaking of led Zeppelin,
we want to talk about a few things that we
have here. I have a number of books. Great writer
(06:55):
named Stephen Davis, who was based in Boston wrote he
was on the led zeppelineur and on the tour plane
and went to all the shows in nineteen seventy five,
and he wrote a book called Hammer of the Gods,
which is still in print nearly fifty years later. And
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I have given Stephen artifacts and other things for his books,
research and memorabilia, and he's always been kind to give
me an acknowledgment and a thank you and the credits.
And I have so many different copies of Hammer of
the Gods. I have it in German, I have it.
The addition that came out in Finland. I have the
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Japanese version and it's so strange to see my name
in the context of all these foreign languages. And one
of the other things that I brought in this evening
is the artifact from the Presence album.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh yes, this is a and I want you to
know you're going to be able to see this because
David and I, I've decided, are going to do a
slideshow and live stream and then I will post it
to my Facebook page, Bradley j Facebook page, so you'll
be able to see all this stuff. So tell them
what I hold in my hand.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Right now, Bradley is doing the five finger discount on
the object, which was used in all four images of
very ordinary, wholesome I guess it would be American family
sitting down for dinner and just hanging out. This black
mysterious object appears in all four photos of the back,
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front and gatefold in the Presence album.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
And this object.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
Was a limited edition promotional only available to friends of
the record company. A friend of mine who worked for
the record company gave me led Zeppelin had their own
customer label, swan Song Records, which is distributed by Atlantic
and of the thousand and Jimmy page, wouldn't you know,
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got number six sixty six the Mark of the Devil.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And you go on number eight twenty okay, And I'm
holding it in my hand. It looks a lot like
the object from two thousand and one A Space Odyssey, right.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
I think that that was probably the reference and the
sourcing for that.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It's exactly black obelisk with a little twist in it
and it says let us have there. It's heavy too,
So I'll get this stuff up on Facebook's so you'll
know of what we speak.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
Yeah, we're gonna compliment the the words with the uh
with the images.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
JG.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
That was a great call. Thank you very much, Thank
you very much. You know, I always tend to run
late because I take the calls first. Angelo and Junior
Junior Iggy is one of the callers. Junior Eggy. I
can't wait to get the Junior Iggy after these. I'm
w b Z.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
We continue with David Bieber, cultural archivist, and he's brought
in a lot of stuff that harkens back to the
Boston of the seventies. Speaking in terms of politics, sports, music,
and culture in general. Before we get to Junior and Angelo.
Very quickly, David, tell people where they can view some
of your installations and see some of the many objects
(10:27):
that you have. First, there's the verb hotel. Quite an
interesting situation. Tell me about that, the.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Verb Hotel, twelve seventy one Boilston Street. I've had a
sustaining relationship before it was even the verb. It was
Howard Johnson's who was right next door to where Bradley
and I worked at WBCN at twelve sixty five Boilston
and I was introduced to Steve Samuels, the owner of
the property in twenty fourteen. And Steve had a vision
(10:58):
to do a celebration of Boston music and especially music
that came out of the Fenway area, but by a
greater expanse the Boston general area. And he wanted to
celebrate Boston music, Boston pop culture, and Boston media. And
Steven Minutes, the owner of the Phoenix, introduced me to
Steve Samuels, and we were off to the Racist And
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that was eleven years ago.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
So in the lobby, in.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
The corridors, in the sixty linear foot display case individual rooms.
There are rooms dedicated to Aerosmith, to the cars, to
the rolling Stone.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Did those rooms have your stuff? Cars stuff?
Speaker 7 (11:39):
And they all they're very specific devoted to the celebration
of those particular acts.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
People don't steal it.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
They've been very, very kind to this point. I'm super
super surprised. We also have kind of they also electrified.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Eight thousand volts pulsing through your body because you wanted
to touch that.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Call down the front desk. Yeah, we got another one.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Yeah, who touched the cars photo bring the fry later?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, where else?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
And also at the Wang Theater part of the Box Center,
I have a room to David Bbar Archives room for Farhoff,
which is the Folk Americana and Roots Hall of Fame.
And that's the celebration of those three categories of music.
And that's an ongoing, sustaining installation. I just came off
(12:37):
of doing an installation used to be the out of
town news kiosk in right dead right ahead.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Do you own that now? No?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Although, and taking the a house yeah right right, I'm
collecting buildings now. Actually, it was kind of curious because
I think the town of Cambridge ones that and they spent.
This is kind of interesting. I think they spent five
years and four million dollars renovating a four hundred and
fifty square foot place. But that aside. It is bright,
(13:07):
it is beautiful, it's very welcoming. About a third of
it is used for tourism. There's a person there who
dispenses maps and information what's happening in Cambridge that night
that week. And Chris Faron is a friend of mine
who has an organization Binge behid JN Boston Institute for Journalism,
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and he connected me to do an installation there which
was up for about three months, of the history of
media that came out of Cambridge. So I had a
Cambridge Observer newspaper from the eighteen nineties. I had the
Old Mole, which is a radical publication. Cridaddy magazine actually
originated in Cambridge. I have a couple copies, including the
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first one which sold for fifteen cents. The Cambridge Phoenix
started there in nineteen sixty nine and brought Side and
so many other publications. But so I do installations all
over town. I've done many things. The Cabot Theater, which
is having a grand reopening after doing significant renovations September fifteenth.
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They're gonna have Steve Winwood. So I bob and weave
and do installations. And I want my things out there
in the sunlight. I want them to be shared with people.
I don't want them hidden away. I know there's gonna
be some kind of degradation in the sense of too
much light, sunlight, fluorescent light.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Whatever, you know.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
But I'm not one of those mint plus people where
if you put your thumbprint on the shrink wrap, it
goes from a plus to a minus.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Okay, first is Angelo, and then we'll get to Junior
Iggy Angelo. You're on w You're on WBZ.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
I don't brad tak it would take on my call.
I was probably like twenty years old, Bobby. We had
that snowstorm and I'll never forget it. And I was
listening to the weather man and they said we were
gonna get a snowstormp but then they said, well, it
didn't look like there was much. But when I seen
that stop coming, I said, this seems like it's gonna
be a big storm. And I'd helped my dad put
(15:15):
all the plows on the trucks and the next morning
we woke up and we were surprised that we couldn't
even move. So it took us like a couple of
hours before we plot our driveway and stuff. And my
dad says, where also am I going to go? I said,
it's no other places. Oh, so we made a path
down the street and it was like twelve one o'clock
in the morning. I seen fireman running down the street
(15:37):
with tobargans and when they got to the front of
our house down the other end of the street, they
was surprised that the street was plowed because I guess
they couldn't get a machine. And I guess the machine
came right behind him and there was an amble. The
guy down the street had a heart attack, and they said,
if we hadn't done what they would have did, the
person would have died. So they put a right up
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on us, on the paper and on the firement.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Hope.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You know, I guess the blizzard of seven eight maybe
is the paramount event of the seventies.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
And totally because it had such an impact on everyone.
It was inescapable. You know, it didn't matter if you
were rich or poor. I mean, look, somebody like you
did a great service. You and your and your dad
plowing the street. You know, it is so admirable. I'm
glad that it reached media attention and you got the
you know, congratulations that you so richly deserved.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I guess yeah, I didn't matter how rich you were
if you were Elon Musk and you're stuck. You know,
he's stuck in some bar for a couple of days.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Yeah, And I'll never forget when when I sleep plow
and I've seen the funandloads, even though there was a
car part there and I was I've seen him pick
up a car and the guy who was shocked and
he put him back down again. It was it was
very in the snow.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
The guy was in the car.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
Whops, no, no, that he was a person who was
doing the plowing, lifted the car up and didn't realize
that he lived to the car.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh I thought. I thought it was even more surprising
if there was somebody in the car. And now we
find out who Junior Iggy is. That is ack of
a name, because I can't get over it. I will
remember that name forever. Junior Eggy. Hi, you're on w
b Z.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
Hey, great show. Uh I listened to earlier I just
you know, caught the Peter Wolf thing and uh, I
had to say, well, friends of mine, we used to
truck in from Foxborough and one of the great shows
we see him with Dwayne Dwayne Almond and I'll never
forget it. You know, he got right to him. Where
(17:39):
was that show that was at the Music Hall? Yeah,
but you know I saw some great shows in the
in the Tea Party with Leon Mussel and Elvin Bishop
and it was it was a great time. Even Lou Reed,
I remember saying Lou Reed just to say that was
his home away from home. Well.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
The thing is the.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Thing that's fascinating about Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground
is that people associate the Velvet Underground with New York
and Andy Warhol. But during that period of the Tea
Party's existence from nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy, the
Velvet Underground and I've got many many posters of theirs
because every show, every act got their own poster. But
(18:22):
the Velvet Underground played more than forty times in Boston
during that three and a half year period, and they
didn't play New York once.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Wow, And why do they not play New York.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Like he's like Junior Iggy said, they love Boston.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Where did they stay when they were in Boston? Did
they stay at somebody's house or what? Does anybody know?
That's kind of that's a hard question.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I guess.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Well, it's almost like you could play and turn around
and go back if New York was their home base,
because you know, three and a half hour ride.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
But you know, they had friends.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
There were a lot of Once again, you could see
this in Peter Wolfe's book about Cambridge in those days
that there were a lot of Warhol people that were
living like on University Road. Ed Hood, who was part
of the Warhol you know family, so to speak, and
appeared in a number of his movies. And Edie Sedgwick
(19:19):
hung out in Cambridge as the Castle Wolf. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah,
but yeah, And it's funny that you mentioned Dwayne Almond
because there is a kind of celebrated calendar from the year.
It was actually May of nineteen sixty nine, and this
is unique that usually, like I said, each act got
(19:40):
their own dedicated poster, but this was a calendar.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
They did it in.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
April of sixty nine, and the most significant one was
May of sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
You could see the.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Velvet Underground were headlining over the Almond Brothers. The Almond
Brothers opening act. You would have, you know, three nights
of the Who doing Tommy and Ross and Roland Cirk
would be the genius jazz player multi instrumentalists at the
same time, he'd be opening for them, and you would
have led Zeppelin for multiple nights. You would have Rod
(20:14):
Stewart and Jeff Beck multiple nights, Poko.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
Yeah you know, yeah, I met Jeff Back a couple
of times. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, So how did you make the connection with all
these people?
Speaker 9 (20:25):
I'll tell you my friend of mine, he played, he
worked with making Georgia bands and Willie and and a
few bands and uh and I used to hang out
with him a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
That was a great label, Capricorn Records. They had Willy
and Marshall Tucker and certainly the Almond Brothers and all
the offshoots and then yeah, yeah, sadly at that point
quick succession, Dwayne had a motorcycle accident and died and bury.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
OK yeah, that's too bad, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Okay, great times. I would be remiss, Junior if I
did not ask you about how you got your name.
Speaker 9 (21:01):
Oh, We used to do some Stooges songs in the
early days, you know. And I moved from Syracuse up
to Indian Lake. I live in the wildness now kind
of anonymous, but I still crank. I got five five
turntables still, Junior.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
This has been an award winning phone call. If they
gave out Pulitzer prizes for phone calls, you would win.
And you know why because never in the history of
radio ever, I'm guessing, has there been a call that
included both extensive talk about the blizzard of seventy eight.
Do you talk to maybe you didn't talk about the blizzard?
Did you talk about the blizzard? No, that goes my
(21:42):
Pulitzer prize before Okay, Well, have a good night.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Keep keep keep those turntables spinning, Okay, darn all right,
we'll get to Robert and Stoughton.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
We'll talk about the time Mayor White saved that maybe
probably saved the town from a riot back in the seventies.
After this on WBC, It's Night.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That is correct. I'm here with friend, colleague and curator
of culture, David Bieber, and we're going to next talk
about an event that happened in Boston. We're focusing on
the seventies in Boston, and there was an event where
there was nearly a riot at the Boston Garden and
(22:34):
Mayor Kevin White stepped in and took action. And David,
you have an artifact that goes along with that, but
you have the story as well. So cozy up to
that microphone and tell a story.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I was actually at that show, which was July eighteenth,
nineteen seventy two. The ticket which put me on the
floor was six dollars and fifty cent. That's not service charges,
that's not anything. Flat price, six dollars and fifty cents
to see the Stones. Stevie Wonder was the opening act
(23:09):
and everybody enjoyed that. And of course the original Boston
Garden in July is just a heat box because they
had no air conditioning, and it's a sweat.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
The walls just a sweat.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Absolutely it was. It was dripping, and that in July
night was no exception. And Stevie Wonder did his set
and everyone was happy, and everyone was smoking, everybody was
getting high. And after Stevie did his set, we sat
and waited and expecting the Stones, and nine thirty came,
(23:43):
and ten o'clock came, and ten thirty came, and eleventh ten,
and we're sitting there, nobody's saying anything, and people are
passing out from the sweat.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And nobody said maybe they'll come later, and nobody said anything.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
There was no announcement. And I remember I was there
with my friend Kim Peace.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
And.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
You know, you invest that kind of time. You don't
want to leave, no, because you know that the minute
you leave, it's like the minute you give up on
the bus, the bus will come. So you gotta stay.
And I think it was well after midnight when Kevin
White came on the stage and he started with the
(24:26):
bad news. The bad news is the Rolling Stones have
been arrested in Rhode Island.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Uproar craziness. No, it can't be. And then he said,
but the good news is I got them out.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Apparently there was fog that night and the Stones could
not land land at Logan Airport. They had to go
to Warwick, Rhode Island, and in coming out of the
airport to get in their limousines, Keith and making some
security people got into a dust up with some photographers
there and they were arrested. In other words, they couldn't
(25:04):
pull the don't you know.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Who I Am?
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Card?
Speaker 7 (25:06):
As very evident that they were the Rolling Stones, but
they were nonetheless arrested. And because of all these people
that were waiting and getting anxious and angry and high,
Kevin White knew we had to do something.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Now.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Several years previous, when Martin Luther King was assassinated in
April of nineteen sixty eight, there was a similar diffusing
situation where James Brown was playing at the Boston Garden,
and because so many cities were going up in flames
and there were riots because of the King assassination, the
bright idea was to coordinate with Channel two WGBH and
(25:45):
show the James Brown concert from the Garden on TV.
That kept everybody in their houses and pacified the situation. Well,
Kevin White was in nineteen seventy two confronted with that
same situation, but it was not and be broadcast on TV.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
It was going to happen live.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
And so apparently what happened was Kevin White made the
arrangement to free the Stones from jail, and there are
mugshots and so forth, and then there was a police
escort that probably was going ninety miles an hour from
More to the Boston Garden, and it was probably around
twelve thirty five, twelve forty when they finally hit the
(26:24):
stage and did a full set. Kevin White said that
the t is going to stay open extra late tonight.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
It must be cool to be a mayor.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Oh god, yeah, yeah you can.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
You can get it.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well, m Meta stay up, yeah, because I said it.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Right exactly, well it was it was diffusing a potentially
dangerous situation safety, yes, exactly exactly, and it was a
terrific concert. I have a copy right here and Bradley
will just collaborate that. The cover of The Phoenix in
(27:00):
July twenty sixth, nineteen seventy two, and the headline front
page with the picture of Mick Jagger. The headline is
rolling Stones Colon waiting on the Midnight Ramblers.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And I wish you could see that. And you're going
to be able to because David and I are going
to coordinate and do a video that I'm going to
be able to get up on my Facebook page. So
at some point you'll be able to see it and
we'll you know, have discussions about what it is.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Again.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So you'll know what's going on.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
And there were people, especially critics, who said of all
the shows that they had seen and they were touring
with the Stones, people you know, writers from Rolling Stone
and various other magazines and publications, they said that that
night at the Boston Garden was the best show of
that nineteen seventy two Stones tour.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Must have been immense, almost ecstatic feeling when they did
show up after having waited.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
All absolutely, because you just it was almost a reward
for all the anxiety and the suffering. You know, the
Boston Garden was not getting any cooler with eighteen thousand
people just got the body heat alone was very very significant.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
But you know, good story, good the Garden. Let's go
to Robert and Stowton.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Hi, Robert, you're on Bradley guys there. I remember very well.
I still get the picture, you know, in my album
nineteen seventy eight, I was in Little Teaster. I was
eighteen years old and I was it was just my
(28:38):
girlfriend was Boston College. And I remember the bridge when
you left in it and you go into Carton Cama
Square and we I took a picture of her on
the left. Inside the snow was so high. You know,
I did fouled with snow and it was unbelievable. So
(28:59):
I'm just thinking that we don't have this kind of
snow anymore. You know that's true, because we don't. Yeah,
the weather is not the same. I remember because seventy
four seventy when I moved to Boston seventy four, I
remember it was it's just and my brother was met
(29:19):
Kevin White, by the way, because he organized a soccer
team that we had some friends who was a pu
and to Easter and Wentwood and we form a soccer team.
We used to play at White Stadium now that Josh
and they were fighting Nova and I remember may Or
(29:41):
Why was the one that my brother had to go
to and talk to. So he was a very nice guy.
But remember it very well. I'm still looking at that picture.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
So no, it's funny to think about that. And you know,
where have the winters and where have the snow's gone.
I think there was probably more so in that storms,
and we've had in the winters the last couple of
years in their entirety. But don't forget the winter ten
years ago, twenty fourteen. Yeah, twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Oh, I remember more than one hundred and.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Ten inches of snow that winter.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
And I think that when they took them to the
snow farms and they deposited the snow and made mountains.
I don't think it finished melting until July fourth.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah, so true. But you said, I remember the one
you're talking about. I said, twenty fifteen or fourteen. I
went to a bran tree. They I was hiring my nephew,
lot of guys because all the roof were caving in
too much snow. So we had people shoveling snow. Oh yeah,
(30:44):
they had enough stores. Yeah, they had.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Snow rakes that they had to take it off of
the roofs and the collapse would happen.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
What a great call. Thank you so much. I don't Oh,
by the way, if there's another winter like twenty fourteen,
twenty fifteen, and it's gonna be maybe worse because a
lot of people have gotten out of the snowplow business
because there's no money in it now. So let's see,
all right, we have fifteen thirteen woman is left and
during that time we'll get to Michael and Attleborough and
(31:12):
we'll talk head to the political arena a little bit
and the phrase, don't blame me. I'm from Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
W b Z It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
We continue with guess David Bieber, and he's brought things
from his archives that reference Boston and seventies. I'm going
to go to one more piece, then go to Michael
and Attleborough, and then try to get Larry and dennisport in.
But while we're doing this at homes, play this little
game with you yourselves. At home, I have a quiz
for you. It's a seventies related quiz. I'm going to
(31:51):
give you a quote and at home, just guess who
did it, and I'll tell you, and David remind me
to give the answer because it would be awful if
I forgot. If I forget before the end of the
r I'll do it next. All here comes your quote,
ladies and gentlemen, who said the following, I love this
(32:12):
A wise person. It's a wise person who rules the
stars and the fool who's ruled by them. All right,
I know a lot of you know that. Now, David politics,
don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts. What's that all about?
Speaker 7 (32:25):
Well, that was one of the bumper stickers from post
nineteen seventy two election. It was Richard Nixon running for
his second term, which he won. His Democratic rival was
George McGovern, who was a Liberal candidate, was soundly trounced
(32:48):
by Richard Nixon, and because Massachusetts was the only state
that gave its Electoral College votes to George McGovern, there
were several noteworthy bumper stickers that came out post election.
One was don't Blame Me, I'm from Massachusetts and another
(33:10):
one was Nixon forty nine Massachusetts one. Nixon was in
the world of hard to believe pre Watergate, immensely popular.
It was the election that was in the cloud of
the hippies versus the hard hats. There was considerable divisiveness
(33:32):
among the American public. The Vietnam War was raging. You'll
give Nixon and Henry Kissinger part of his cabinet and
his advisor and Secretary of State, and give him credit
for kind of creating relationships with China. A couple of
my favorite artifacts are ping pong paddles, because China was
(33:54):
very much in the Chinese people very much into playing
ping pong.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Do you have Chinese ping punk titles from this era.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Ping pong panels where one paddle has Nixon's face on
one side and chairman mouth.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Oh, is there anything you don't have that you really
really want?
Speaker 7 (34:11):
It's funny that you bring that up, because when I
am out searching at vintage stores or flea markets or
yard sales, I don't go with an intent with a mission.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Get what's good.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
I'm receptive to anything that's out there. I like to
connect the dots of our world. I have things that
go back fifty sixty one hundred years. And it's not
just pop culture and music and media. It's everything. And
it's politics and religion and Frisbees and cool right.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I went to an event where they had a lot
of ventures T shirts on sale and I watched you
hoover them up.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
That was our late friend John Boy Franklin, and I
have shirts with his DNA on them.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Excellent. Now we have Michael and Addleborough.
Speaker 10 (35:02):
Hi, Michael, Hey, guys, I actually got two things. I'll
be quick. My wife and I first day was to
see Random Man at the Aquarius Theater.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:17):
In fact, when I go on Setlist FM, I kept
looking it up at Zeoperium. But anyway, Wolfy comes out
now my wife didn't know. You know, I was open
and uh, you know a big mouth, right, Wolfe comes out.
I jump up, Yo Wolfe And she told me later
on she goes. I said to myself, she said to herself,
(35:40):
what did I get myself into? But anyway, anyway, who's
the black dude, the tall black dude. I think he
might have been called the Master Blaster always.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
I'll give you the backstory on that very quickly. Charles
Daniels Charles Daniels, not to be confused with the country
singer Charlie Daniels. Charles Daniels was also known as the
Master Blaster. Peter Wolf gave him his name the Master Blaster,
and Charles Daniels gave Peter Wolf the name the.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Woof of Goofa.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
And Charles Daniels was the MC at many concerts, especially
the shows at the Boston Tea Party. He became friendly
with a lot of the acts, British acts, especially led
Zeppelin and ten years after. And he was also a
very esteemed photographer. And there was a big, big feature
(36:33):
about four years ago in the Boston Globe front page
about more than five thousand canisters of thirty six each
image Kodak film that the Master Blaster had shot during
those Housyon days the late sixties early seventies. He had
never developed them. They were close to ninety thousand images.
There was a Kickstarter campaign that was run. Charles sadly
(36:56):
had blood cancer and died a few years ago, but
he did live to see all of these vintage rock
and roll and other images. There was a company, I
think it was in Northwest Canada that processed all these
images and hand delivered it back to Cambridge. And those
(37:17):
things are works of art and works of beauty, you.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Know, Michael and Edibor. I apologize Sam with Larry and Dennis,
but we're just going to be out of time. I
need to give you the answer to my quiz question.
Who was it that said it's a I want to
read this and not get it's a wise person who
rules the stars and a fool who's ruled by them.
Another icon of the seventies around these parts Darryl Martini,
(37:40):
the Cosmic Muffin. And David has brought a picture of
Daryl Martini. It's like his head shot and a WBC
and advertisement. And once again you were not able to well.
I did a live shot a live video and put
it up on my Facebook page. But we're going to
do a more for I hope, more formal slideshow show
(38:03):
and tell with all these same articles posted on my
Facebook page. In order to find that Facebook page, the
easiest way is go to Bradleyja dot org. That's my
little website. Connections to all my socials are there. That's
bradleyja dot org. You can find everything you need there.
And I have about forty five seconds to take a
(38:24):
story full circle. When I first came on two hours ago,
I said, I hold in my hand a WBZ Boston mug.
It says Maynard in the morning and story associated with
this One time Dave Maynard picked me up Hitcherick and
kind of I was hitchhiking to woods Hole to go
to the vineyard. I went into a drug store on
Charles Street to get directions. He said, where are you going?
(38:48):
I said, uh, what's hold? He said, I'll give you
a ride. He gave me a ride all the way
to the Sagamore Bridge. David Bieber, thanks for all the
work you put in. We only have like fifteen seconds,
but thank you, thank you, thank you. We'll continue this
and make it visible to folks, so they can see
this stuff, and you get five seconds of closing.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
To be continued. I'm still collecting, okay.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And thanks to all. We're going to talk about the
evolution of professional wrestling next on wbs A
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