August 5, 2024 • 40 mins
Morgan White Jr. for NightSide:
Bill and Bo Winiker have entertained thousands at weddings, corporate events, and parties. The Boston Globe dubbed them “Boston’s House Band,” and they've performed at the White House for President Ford, at President Carter’s Inauguration, and at Bill Clinton’s Inaugural Ball! Morgan chatted with this dynamic duo and invites you to experience Winiker Music.
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Bill and Bo Winiker have entertained thousands at weddings, corporate events, and parties. The Boston Globe dubbed them “Boston’s House Band,” and they've performed at the White House for President Ford, at President Carter’s Inauguration, and at Bill Clinton’s Inaugural Ball! Morgan chatted with this dynamic duo and invites you to experience Winiker Music.
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice sid.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm going you crazy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Then Winniker Brothers are here and we have just about
fifty one minutes of show to go with them. Phone
lines are full, but if you want, I'll give you
the phone numbers, and as soon as the line becomes available,
rapidly dial six one, seven, two, five, fourteen thirty or
eight eight, eight nine to nineteen thirty and before I
(00:27):
take our next call. Gentlemen, I know your mom's health
was not what it could be. Has she improved it all?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh? Yep, she's doing better with the help of the
Good Lord. She will turn ninety eight years of age
on August fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It's adorable.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We're excited about that. And she's she's had some issues,
but she is tenacious.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Well, she's listening. I would say, you keep getting better
and we all love you.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Oh, thank you so much. He is listening to every word.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
All right, then let's go to New Hampshire and speak
to Jimmy. Jimmy, thank you for calling. You've got the
way brothers.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Whenever sky's look great to me, he had trouble begins
to do. Whenever the winter winds become too strong, I
concentrate on you.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Hi, guys.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Hey Jimmy.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
That's Jimmy Page and he is one of our most
favorite singers. He's a great singer. And I say to
Jimmy every time I see him, We've got to make
a CD with you.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, we have to someday.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Brother.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I'm just happy to talk to you again because being
up here in New Hampshire, we get stuck, we get
stuck a little. And the one thing that you do
is you keep me involved by all of the postings
that you put out. So that's really great to see.
And I happen to catch this one that you were
going to be on tonight, and if this is as
closet as I can get to the Winnaker Brothers, that's what's.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Going to be for tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It's so great to hear your voice.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Honestly, I know, brother, that was actually a song I
think one of the first songs we ever did at
the old skip Jack on a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, well, you know we Bill and I were talking
about skip Jacks tonight. When we finished up at the
Parker House Hotel about to fourteen years we started playing
at skip Jacks and we ended up playing there for
twenty six years. Sunday Brunch for twenty six years.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
It was great.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Skip Jackson Waltham or in Boston, No, no, Skip Jacks
right in Boston, right okay, right behind the Trinity Church. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
We used to enjoy their their food and you guys
on Sunday and it was great. Also, something happened today
that was obviously charmatic, if you will, because up on
Craig's cell phone came our dinner with a Nette at
the lake years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Oh my god, remember that? Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
He made a he made a chef's dinner out there
for Velma and uh and Annette and me and uh
before you guys arrived for the weekend. So we had
to shuttle off. But we hope she's doing well. That's
I heard that comment before.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, she she's We have dinner together every night here
and when we sit around the table and talk about
how we're feeling, she's usually feeling better than me or Bill.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I know we're also going to be in a perfect
storm to something.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
But you know, we have a lot to be thankful for.
I mean the fact that we still have our mother. Yeah,
but we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
So nice to get out.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
We'll try to get out and see you at some
point that you keep posting it and I'll find my
way back into Boston to hear two of the most
generous artists that there are in existence to day.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, you're very kind and it's great to hear you,
but it will be better to see you. So all
right here, thank you for the phone call.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, thank you brother, thanks for putting them on tonight.
You have a great night on everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Bye bye, bye bye.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Now all right, let's go to Middleborough and speak to
gg GG. You're next here with the Winnakers.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
Hey, no gg, double G Yeah, double G. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
I thought i'd pop in and thank the Winnakers for
having me on the gigs this week. I was able
to fill in on some gigs, and I will tell
you they're not exaggerating when they're telling you how wonderful
that supper club is, because it really is. I think
a lot of your fans would would love it if
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they can, if they can actually get reservations. I know
it sells out soon, but the family connection that you have,
it's a warm It was a warm, very warm gig
actually physically and figuratively. It was a warm gig, because
the outdoor gig was a very warm gig we had.
(05:11):
We had. We had a lot of fun and obviously
top shelf musicianship, but you know that's always that's always
something that you know, it's brought to life much more
when the people are so cool. So we did. We
had a we had a lot of fun, and I
just thought I'd pop in and say hi and tell
you Morgan, I've I've I've heard you so many times.
(05:36):
I've gigged for many years, many decades in the Boston area.
And when you're in your car and you you know,
when you're stuck someplace far there's a lot of night
construction in Boston. Even sometimes coming home from New Hampshire
over Vermont, you put on bes you are busy is
your thing, you know, Oh you're you. And it's so
(05:58):
funny because where we all listen to you. I mean,
I think that Bo and Bill can can just verify
every musician. I've been listening to you and other musicians
that I know have called in to answer a trivia
question or something. It's just hysterical, like something that I
just got off a gig with is in their car.
(06:21):
So this is like, this is Boston for your listeners
right now. This is really kind of legendary because you
guys have all been the fabric for what how many decades?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
For me, I've been here since roughly nineteen. I started
radio in nineteen eighteen. I've been with BZ roughly since
nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And Gigi, I want to tell you something like this week.
You have no idea how many phone calls I've had
to make and shifting times back and forth. Tonight I
had a guest who didn't show, and within three minutes
I was able to take a guest that I would
have had on Wednesday and insert her into tonight and
(07:11):
do the best I can and try to make it
look seamless. It's a lot of hard work in the
doing radio.
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Was that your education person that you had on your
equational Yes, oh well that's great. Well I'll tell you
Bo and Bill, you had a situation that you really
needed coverage in, and I'm glad that it got to
be me because I like your last color Jimmy. You
(07:37):
guys were talking to Jimmy and his story is kind
of my story with you with you folks.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Skip Jacks It was Skip.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
Jock's and I don't know how I managed to sit
in with you, but you both looked at each other
and you just weren't sure. I'm not sure because we
hadn't known each other, and you had this look of
relief once I started It's singing. Well, the relief that
was brought to your faces.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I sat.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
I went there with my husband.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
It was a.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Brunch and I sang a Billie Holiday arrangement, and I'm
so glad I got to do that with you over
the weekend. And I hope that your situation smooths out.
Speaker 9 (08:17):
And then.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I hope so too. But I want to tell you
you did an incredibly fantastic job, really, and you're a
great person and have a glowmote of talent. I'll tell
you thank.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
You so much. I really appreciate the compliments. And like
I said, it was an honor you had played forty
years ago at my friend's wedding, and I was just
it just made it more. I even wore the bracelet
she passed away, but I wore the bracelet she gave
me to the gigs, So that's.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
What I did.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
You're really very welcome.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'll be talking to you soon. I can assure you bybebye.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
There goes Gg and Jim and Boxford will be next
after these messages here on night Side, heard only on
WBC News Radio ten thirty with a time is eleven seventeen.
Temperature has been holding all night long. It's seventy five degrees.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
A lot of people have called in tonight. That's why
when I have the winnakers on, I usually slot them
for a two hour commitment, and I have one line available.
Anyone who wants to dial six one, seven, two, five
four ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine,
ten thirty, there is a line waiting for you. Let's
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go to Boxford and speak to Jim. Jim, welcome aboard.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Hey Morgan, how are you.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I'm fine, loud and clear.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Jim, great, this is the first for me. Actually, I'm
from Lynn. I'm in Boxford now, but I'm from Lynn,
and I just wanted to say I knew I became
middle aged when I could sit and watch on television
a Red Sox game and started to listen to talk radio.
(10:22):
I know I'm now old because I'm calling in for
the first time ever, so I just want to make
that introductories and so.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
What are you twenty three, twenty four years old?
Speaker 6 (10:34):
I'm being funny, give or take fifty years or so years,
you know, but I want to say hello to Bo,
because Bo and Bill, I'm not sure I ever met you,
but I met your father, because I don't know if
you remember Gil Fishman Bow and the jazz Boat and
the concert cruise.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh, we worked with Bill on the boat. We worked
with Gil and Fenton Holland for a number of years
and fantastic.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Yes, yeah, and that's I worked those two cruises for
the summer of seventy six and seventy seven while I
was going to law school, and that's where I met you.
And so impressed was I and my girlfriend at the
time with you guys that you actually played at a
(11:25):
wedding in nineteen eighty one at the Oakley Country Clubs.
And why this is important, it was in November of
eighty one when the Great Lynn Fire happened and you
could see the half of the city burning down from
the hill in Belmont, you know, with the Oh my god,
country Club Oakland. I'm sorry, was it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay, yeah, Oakley Country Cup.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Yes, yeah, but you guys were fabulous, You were terrific.
It was great to be able to listen to you
and have you come entertain us. And I just wanted
to call in that say thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, will you do us a huge favor and someday
come out to Nioli and reintroduce yourself to us so
that we can, you know, reconnoiter our friendship.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Yeah, and that's Westwood, you said.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
West in Westwood, mass Yep, it's too. Eighty two Washington Street,
Naroli an E ro o l I. And you want
to ask for the Supper Club when you do come
with their one Thursday night a month. The next night
is September nineteenth, six pm, eight pm in the supper Yeah.
So I'd love to love to see you. You sound
(12:40):
so great. And are you still practicing law?
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Oh god, sadly yes. You know what they say about
old lawyers ever retired, they just lose their appeal.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I wish I had a room shot for that.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, Jill could have. You know, I always think of this,
but if you have a job that you love, you
never work a day in your life. And I know
Bill and I we've sort of found the fountain of
youth by being able to play music. And I just
want to see this that we owe our father a
tremendous debt of gratitude for sharing his love of music
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with us. I haven't said that yet, but I want
to emphasize that. And I don't want to short change
my mother because she told Bill and myself hundreds of times, boys,
it doesn't cost any extra to be nice, and the
more good deeds you do in this world will translate
into a better quality life. And Bill and I just
keep doing good deeds and our life gets sweeter and
(13:40):
sweeter by doing that. So Jim, thank you for sharing
that story with us. It's a fantastic story. And I
look forward to seeing you and your.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Wife, and kudos to you guys. And I'm sorry, well,
what was your dad's name again? Because he truly was
a gentleman and a wonderful musician.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, uh, ed ed Winaker, that was my father. And
you know those jazz boat cruises, we played them and
they were so exciting, you know, that was such a
great time for us. We of course, we played on
the Provincetown boat for five summers and we were doing
those jazz cruises and we were working awfully hard back
then and we're still working awfully hard, but we're having
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a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
So thank you. Ahead good. No, it's not work if
you love it right, it's exactly and Fenton were great
guys to work with you, so.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
They absolutely were. But thank you for taking the time
to reach out to us tonight. It really touches us steeply.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Thank you, Jim, first time ever. Thank you guys, and
let's take James from Midford. James, thank you for calling.
Welcome to Night Side. How are you. I'm finding you.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
I'm doing well. You know, I've never called one of
these shows before, but when you talk about the Winnakers,
it resonates in me because I know we have the
hipoprivacy and all that. But the mother I used to
take care of for her for treatments for ophthalmology.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh that's what radio does. It's a small world.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It reconnects, it does, you know.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
And she told me about the Winnakers. She told me
everything about the band, you know what I mean, And
honestly I knew nothing about it, and it made me
look up, you know, and start to do research on
it because she told me about the history of it.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You know, guys.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yes, it's so great of you the call. We appreciate
that so much. I'll tell you my mother has been
the first and that's been able to share all the
stories about our family for all these years, you know,
Bill and I sixty two years we've been doing this,
and my mother's the gatekeeper. She knows all the stories.
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She knows of going down in New pomp Rhode Island
and playing for the Vanderbilts, and playing for mister and
missus Henry Cabot Lodge's fiftieth wedding anniversary. She knows all
the stories, and she's been the gatekeeper, and she met
you and she started sharing the stories of our music
with you. And it's so wonderful that you have taken
the time to call in. My mother's listening right now.
(16:35):
So if you want to send a message to her,
go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (16:39):
Well you let her know that I worked with doctor Song.
I was her assistant for years and that's how we met.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
My mother still goes every six weeks to get that
shot for macular degeneration, so she's still.
Speaker 10 (16:57):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So boy, it's so great to hear from you, and boy,
this was very touching that you would take the time
to call.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
You know, I'm driving, I'm just listening, you know, I
like listening to the talk shows. But honestly, God, this
is the first time I've ever called.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Well, I'm glad we got you to reach for the phone.
Speaker 10 (17:23):
I've never called any radio show in my life unless
I'm trying to win something.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Okay, Well, don't be such a stranger. You can do
it again and again after that.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
Honestly, you know I won't because it felt really good
to talk about this. You know, it's such a big
you know, her legacy, which is still going on, is
so amazing that it's something that needs to be talked
about on a regular beat.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
James, Well, we thank you for that very kind statement.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
You're welcome, and I appreciate everything that your family has
done in the music industry.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Thank you. I hope we hope our past will cross
one day.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I hope so too.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I really do, Okay, I hope, I hope.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
You You're welcome.
Speaker 10 (18:14):
I hope you guys have a great night enjoying good
luck with your mother and family.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Thank you, Jan Thank you so much.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
Have a great night, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
We will bye bye.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Now we're so close to a break, I'm not going
to take the next call. But Diane, I've got a
couple of commercials. I've also got the news hit. So
we'll get to you roughly about three minutes or so.
I promise you'll be right after that. Anyone else wants
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to jump on six one, seven, five, four, ten thirty eight, eight, eight,
nine to nine, ten thirty. I am speaking with music
legends Bo and Bill Winnaker. They've been entertaining people in
the New England area beyond the New England area for
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close to sixty plus years. And if they ever entertained
for you at a wedding or a function, whatever, you
want to call in and say thank you for what
they did for you back in the day. Here is
your opportunity. And before I do anything else, Tomorrow's Tuesday,
(19:28):
you want to come see me do Trivia Live. That
would be at the Midway Restaurant to sixty nine Washington
Street that's in Denham from six pm to seven point thirty.
Come on by. You'll get a chance maybe to see
some of the people that participate with me here in
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BZ like mel Simon's. And that's about that. So let
me give it to Rob. Diane will next after these messages.
Time and temperature eleven twenty nine, temperature seventy five degrees.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's night Side with Dan Ray Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I am very fortunate to have Bill Winnaker his brother
Bo Winnaker, entertainers in this area for decades. And let's
go to fair Haven and speak with Diane. Diane, you've
got the Winnakers here for me.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Hello, Hello, Hello, this is Diane calling Saint Laurent. And
I couldn't let's me even go by without tossing my
hat in the ring bow. And Bill, especially Bo played
with my father for many, many years. My father was
a pianist, and Dave Bo was a household and Ed
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was a household name around our house, and so I
feel like they are somewhat part of the family, and
so I just wanted to say, Hi, Oh you guys
doing tonight.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
We're doing really well. We're having a fun time. This
has just been a very exciting evening hearing from so
many people, and especially you. I want to talk about
your your dear departed father, Bill, Saint Laurent. He was
a member of my band for many years. He was
a bringing canist. He taught at Berkeley College of Music,
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and you know, one of the greatest vibe players in
the world studied with your father, and he said he
learned more in your father's course than any course that
you ever had at Berkeley.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
And you know, yes, Gary Burton, Yeah, Gary Burton, he had,
he did. He gave a statement. He wasn't able to
be at my father's funeral, but he passed along at
statements that I read live. I mean, it was. It
was one of the most touching statements I think I've heard,
because you know, that's a part of my father's life.
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I didn't really know anything.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
About you know.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
However, when I was at Berkeley, he knew who I
was and just opened right up to me about my father.
So it's been very touching over the years to meet
people who have known him.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, well, let's not let's not forget your mother either.
She was a brilliant teacher, pianist and teacher, and so absolutely.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Oh yes, yes, that's how they met. Yep, my parents met.
I got a lot of music in me, Yep, I do.
And I'm very grateful for having had both my parents.
My mother just recently passed away, but I just had
to say thank you so much for being part of
a joyous part of my father's life. He just adored you,
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absolutely adored you.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
We had a great relationship and Bill had a twinkle
in his eye. You know, there was just something about Bill.
He was just such a lovely gentleman. Yeah, Brian musician
really honestly, he you know, he worked in Norwood at
the high school and he was a great conductor of
the chorus and everything. But he could play great jazz
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and he had just do it all he could range.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
I do like to I have to take the blame
for that high school job because he was he was
digging quite a bit over the years and heavily, and
he was getting his masters at be Boston Conservatory when
I was born, and so this forced him to take
the quote unquote day job. But it turned out to
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be one of the greatest experiences of his life. You know,
he's the choir director.
Speaker 10 (23:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
The students loved him, they did.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, they really did.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
You know, the whole all the students that that we're
lucky to say be in the courses.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
He led those courses.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Year after year.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
He they adored your.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Father they did, and they actually there's a number of
them that attribute their careers to him, you know, most
of them you can read on Facebook, you know, as
opposed to I don't see them, but I do catch
comments that they've made on Facebook about him, and and
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had talked to him at his funeral as well, that
they attribute their own careers to him. So it's it's
just it's are inspiring, you know. I mean, he was
my dad practicing piano day and night, and and of
course he had his his groups over to the house,
and you know, I went on a few gigs with
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him and my mom, so I got to see a
little bit of that. And he's he's the same at
home as he was out in the world. He's just uh,
you know, very You wouldn't know how much of a
genius he really was. I think because he was he was.
He had a very light touch to him, and he
was very personable.
Speaker 10 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, he was a gentleman in every sense of the word. Yeah. Yeah,
you're so so nice and thoughtful to call in tonight.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Well, I don't have as much to say as some
of your other people, but this is your life film
Bo and a Girl, wonderful wonderful to him.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Your call is spoken volumes. Believe me, you sent all
the right things tonight and we appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
I owe a deep gratitude to you. I really do. Yeah,
I know we've spoken on the phone. Now, we've spoken
since my mother's passing, which was seven months ago. But
prior to that, when I was growing up, we used
to speak on the phone. I was like a little secretary,
you know. And yeah, so it was. And it was
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joyful here and practicing for his gigs and then loading
up the car like a one man band heading off
to play with the winn Grows. So I thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
We had a lot of fun and we made a
lot of great music. The music was always was exceptional
when Bill was playing that piano.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
On higher level. It really is.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, I want to say thank you for taking the
time to call us.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You're very welcome.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
And good night. We'll talk soon. Love you both very
very much.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
By now, before I take my last break of the hour,
there was a woman when I came to see you,
what three or four years ago at Brothers. There was
a young woman's singer and I cannot remember her name.
Is she still performing?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, she she's moved to California. She went off with
her boyfriend to California. I believe she's still doing some
singing out West, but she's been gone now for a
couple of years. What was her name, Zoe? Yes, that's it, yep,
lovely young woman.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well she's out in California, and you and I both
know that's a very rich place for a performer to be.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yeah, I want to interrupt for a second. She's actually
in Las Vegas, so you.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Might run into her in Vegas.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Moved, she moved to Las Vegas, and I don't know
exactly where she is, but she's there, and you love
Las Vegas. You're going to run into her, I think.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Well, I would love to if she is performing in Vegas.
I would love to sit in the audience and just
watch her singing entertain.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Well, we'll keep you posted when we get more information,
all right.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Because I I just got to feel this kid's got
it and she's going to make it one day.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Well, we put our heart and soul into working with her.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
We worked with her for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, we would get together with her every week, and
you know, As Bill and I have told you before,
we've mentored over two hundred musical musicians over the years,
and that's the throw for us. We love it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Name a couple of people that quote unquote have done well.
They've stepped up, so to speak, just right for a
couple of.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Grace Kelly, she is a young woman who has traveled
the world over. She's a saxophone player and singer. And
I worked with her for two years. She would come
over to my house and we would work and she
is a brilliant musician. She's very famous. Grace Kelly. I
mean you listen as they know her, okay. And Tony
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du Bois. He's a blind autistic pianist living in the
Midwest right now.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
Me.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, Well, Tony is a genius. They have made a
movie about his life and they have written a book
about his life. That happened to happen to the Winnakers yet,
but that's happened to Tony de Blois and Tony. Yeah.
So those are two people that are pretty famous that
have traveled the world over. And then we have a
number of musicians. One of our trumpet players who worked
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with us for years was the lead trumpet player with
Frank Sinatra. And he was in my band at.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
The Parker House and when he graduated college, after playing
with me for a few years, he got the job
as lead trumpet player with Frank Sinatra. And he always
calls us and writes to us and tells us he
owes it all.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
To us well to learn the swing like that.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
No, As I said, we have mentored over two hundred
musicians from Berkeley College and Music Wing the Conservatory, Boston University.
And you know, it's just something that we loved doing it.
It was giving back. That's why we did that. They
rehearsed at our house. I don't know if I've told
this story to you before, but they would. We lived
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right in Coolidge Corner. Yeah, very very close to the
Trader Joe. It's very close to Trader Joe's. That's where
we live now. And we lived in a small little apartment.
They were apartments back then, they weren't condos. It was
rent control. We were living for one hundred and fifty
dollars a month for a two bedroom apartment. And in
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the apartment we had a piano set up, we had
a string bass, we had drums and every Monday, we'd
take these COVID kids and we rehearsed with them for
two hours, and we'd be playing the swing music that
we were playing at the Parker House Hotel, and we
were teaching these young musicians, very gifted musicians, but we
were teaching them how to swing that music. And we'd
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send them home with tapes of the music. That's when
they were cassette tapes. And then we played for two
hours and then Bill and I would drive. These would
have six, seven or eight musicians in our apartment. No
one ever complained. It was a six unit building and
we were blaring away, but it was swing music, and
you know, it wasn't that loud, but it was for people.
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I said, you think the music's too loud. They said, no,
it's perfect. We love it. So we'd take the kids
to Newton to a restaurant called Cantina a Brutsi, and
back then on Monday, and on back then on Monday nights,
it was all the pasta. You could eat for less
than five dollars, and so we would treat these kids
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to a meal. And you know, when you're a young
student and you get a free meal, that goes a
long long way. But this restaurant was all the pasta.
You could eat for like less than five dollars, and
I always ate more than any one of the kids.
I think, I think I have a hollow lake. People say, well,
where do you put it? I said, well, I verted off.
(31:59):
You know, I got a lot of uh, you know,
I don't know what do I have.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Anyways, did you guys play Zitos in Boston?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
No, we didn't know. We played at Grub.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Remember I played there too. I did trivia that.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
My god, you know what we were doing there. This
was before we worked at the Parker House Hotel. This
was our stop. We played about a year there on
Thursday nights, and we were doing the Gong Show of
all things at the end of the Yeah, well yeah,
we were playing swing music there. We had our six
p swing band playing there. But then we would do
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the Gong Show and we had The place was packed.
It was the most hilarious thing you've ever saw in
your life, all the different acts that would come in
every week and play with us.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
But did you do jumping into the woodside for the
dancing machine?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Oh yeah, let me take my last.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Break, get it out the way and just chat with you, guys.
That's the magic of Bill and Bow. I'm gonna throw
it to rob By saying time and temperature eleven forty
seven seventy five degrees.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We have very few minutes left with my guests Bill
and Bo Winnaker. And if there are people out there
listening that would like to maybe learn how to play
an instrument, how to approach singing, how to do something
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musically that you've always wanted to try but never really
had the gumption to go through with it, here is
your opportunity. Guys, give a phone number where people can
reach you.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Sure, they can reach us two ways. They can call
six one seven two seven seven six six seven three
that's Bill number, or they can call my number, Bose
number at six one seven four six nine three four
three seven.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
And tell everybody about the third week of September and.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well, on September nineteenth, from six to eight pm, we'll
be playing at Niroli. It's a wonderful Italian restaurant. You
can get anything there. It's located at two eighty two
Washington Street in Westwood. The phone number there because you
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do need a reservation. It's seven eight one three, seven
five two five nine four Thursday September nineteenth from six
to eight pm. You need a reservation and make sure
you make it in the supper cub, which is in
the back of the restaurant. It holds eighty.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
People, so you just can't walk in off the street.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Well, you probably they set up a table. One of
my friends showed up without a reservation and he said
he was a friend of Bo's, and they brought out
a table for him and set it right up in there.
They had, you know, one extra seat available for him.
So no, it's a it's a good idea to have
a reservation. But sometimes you can show up and they
can sit you at the bar or something like that.
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So it's worth a try, but i'd recommend a reservation.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So it's like the movie Goods Fellas if if you
kind of know somebody, if you get lucky, they'll bring
a table out the back and set set it down
right up front.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
They've done that a few times. They'll just they'll do
it because they're very they're very a chroma. That's it.
They are really accommodating.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Well they did it for ray Leota and Goodfellas.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
They sure did.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I know we have a couple of minutes left, but Morgan,
we want to thank you. And I know we haven't
been on for a number of months. You've called us
religiously and asked us to come and we said, you know,
we're just not ready now. But I'm so glad we
reconnected tonight. This was so much fun. I hope you
had as much fun as we did.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Oh, definitely, definitely, And we will do it again. You
know that.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Oh, I know that.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I know we will every two, three.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Four months. Your phone rings, It's me and I say,
can you do this date at this time?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Well, you know we're back now, we're back in the loop.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
We had a little time off. We just had to
take care of a few little things. But this was
wonderful tonight. It was just a very special evening.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Now, I want you to do me a favor, and
this is a personal favor. You did it for me
once before at Brothers. I want you to play a
little bit of Killer Joe and tell the people that
are there and ROLI's that you're playing this for your buddy, Morgan.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Consider it done. Just let us know when you're coming,
and we'll we'll take care of it. We'll you know,
we'll we'll take it right down the middle for you.
We'll swing it out for you.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Well, yeah, I'm there or not. Just knowing that you
play it okay all that matters. And I cannot believe
that I see the person calling in now with three
minutes of show to go, put them on. It's almost
I sure bet that she will call with me and
minutes of show to go. Rob screen her as quickly
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as you can and change your light so I'll know
she's ready, because this is a woman from Wisconsin. And
and Karen, I say this to you all the time.
Why do you wait till the end of the show
to call in?
Speaker 9 (38:10):
Didn't you get the message? No, you're not supposed to
chastise me, because all I one does say hello and goodbye.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Well, call earlier to say hello and goodbye.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Well something I couldn't. I couldn't.
Speaker 10 (38:27):
And so.
Speaker 9 (38:29):
Is Bow and Bill.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
There still here?
Speaker 9 (38:32):
Go ahead here, Hi, Hi, Morgan and Bow and Bill.
And I just want to say hello to both you.
I love you both. I missed you, and I'm trying
to get out there and and with that, I'll see
it at midway and neurally's.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Okay, Okay, sounds good. But we should tell everybody that's
listening that Bo came out to Wisconsin and did a
big comment start out there and invited you and that
was quite a night.
Speaker 9 (39:04):
Yeah, sure was. I'll never forget it, I know. Okay,
thank you, Okay, good.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Night, good night, Karen. She has a habit of doing that,
calling at the very end, but you guys were her
incentive to call in. I want to thank you both
for coming on. I hope your mother continues to get
on the mend and you see all the people that
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call in who have been touched by your professionalism and
the music that you have put forth Winnaker style, and
that's that's basically about it.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Well, we appreciate it so much. We appreciate you so much,
and I hope you have a great show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Night on Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Wednesday night.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, Ben Parker will be here tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
No, no, I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I'm talking about the restaurant gig.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Oh my restaurant gig. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, No, that's what I was referring. I was referring
to that.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Okay, Well, thank you for that and now I'll speak
to you guys. Next time I speak to you guys.
I also want to thank h William Keck who is
on Teacher Terry and I'll be here Wednesday night. I
want to thank Rob Brooks. I want to thank Terry
and Gray and the Dan Ray audience. Thank all of you.
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By Boston
It's nice sid.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm going you crazy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Then Winniker Brothers are here and we have just about
fifty one minutes of show to go with them. Phone
lines are full, but if you want, I'll give you
the phone numbers, and as soon as the line becomes available,
rapidly dial six one, seven, two, five, fourteen thirty or
eight eight, eight nine to nineteen thirty and before I
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take our next call. Gentlemen, I know your mom's health
was not what it could be. Has she improved it all?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh? Yep, she's doing better with the help of the
Good Lord. She will turn ninety eight years of age
on August fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It's adorable.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We're excited about that. And she's she's had some issues,
but she is tenacious.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Well, she's listening. I would say, you keep getting better
and we all love you.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Oh, thank you so much. He is listening to every word.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
All right, then let's go to New Hampshire and speak
to Jimmy. Jimmy, thank you for calling. You've got the
way brothers.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Whenever sky's look great to me, he had trouble begins
to do. Whenever the winter winds become too strong, I
concentrate on you.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Hi, guys.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Hey Jimmy.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
That's Jimmy Page and he is one of our most
favorite singers. He's a great singer. And I say to
Jimmy every time I see him, We've got to make
a CD with you.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, we have to someday.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Brother.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I'm just happy to talk to you again because being
up here in New Hampshire, we get stuck, we get
stuck a little. And the one thing that you do
is you keep me involved by all of the postings
that you put out. So that's really great to see.
And I happen to catch this one that you were
going to be on tonight, and if this is as
closet as I can get to the Winnaker Brothers, that's what's.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Going to be for tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It's so great to hear your voice.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Honestly, I know, brother, that was actually a song I
think one of the first songs we ever did at
the old skip Jack on a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, well, you know we Bill and I were talking
about skip Jacks tonight. When we finished up at the
Parker House Hotel about to fourteen years we started playing
at skip Jacks and we ended up playing there for
twenty six years. Sunday Brunch for twenty six years.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
It was great.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Skip Jackson Waltham or in Boston, No, no, Skip Jacks
right in Boston, right okay, right behind the Trinity Church. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
We used to enjoy their their food and you guys
on Sunday and it was great. Also, something happened today
that was obviously charmatic, if you will, because up on
Craig's cell phone came our dinner with a Nette at
the lake years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Oh my god, remember that? Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
He made a he made a chef's dinner out there
for Velma and uh and Annette and me and uh
before you guys arrived for the weekend. So we had
to shuttle off. But we hope she's doing well. That's
I heard that comment before.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, she she's We have dinner together every night here
and when we sit around the table and talk about
how we're feeling, she's usually feeling better than me or Bill.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I know we're also going to be in a perfect
storm to something.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
But you know, we have a lot to be thankful for.
I mean the fact that we still have our mother. Yeah,
but we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
So nice to get out.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
We'll try to get out and see you at some
point that you keep posting it and I'll find my
way back into Boston to hear two of the most
generous artists that there are in existence to day.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, you're very kind and it's great to hear you,
but it will be better to see you. So all
right here, thank you for the phone call.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, thank you brother, thanks for putting them on tonight.
You have a great night on everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Bye bye, bye bye.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Now all right, let's go to Middleborough and speak to
gg GG. You're next here with the Winnakers.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
Hey, no gg, double G Yeah, double G. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
I thought i'd pop in and thank the Winnakers for
having me on the gigs this week. I was able
to fill in on some gigs, and I will tell
you they're not exaggerating when they're telling you how wonderful
that supper club is, because it really is. I think
a lot of your fans would would love it if
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they can, if they can actually get reservations. I know
it sells out soon, but the family connection that you have,
it's a warm It was a warm, very warm gig
actually physically and figuratively. It was a warm gig, because
the outdoor gig was a very warm gig we had.
(05:11):
We had. We had a lot of fun and obviously
top shelf musicianship, but you know that's always that's always
something that you know, it's brought to life much more
when the people are so cool. So we did. We
had a we had a lot of fun, and I
just thought I'd pop in and say hi and tell
you Morgan, I've I've I've heard you so many times.
(05:36):
I've gigged for many years, many decades in the Boston area.
And when you're in your car and you you know,
when you're stuck someplace far there's a lot of night
construction in Boston. Even sometimes coming home from New Hampshire
over Vermont, you put on bes you are busy is
your thing, you know, Oh you're you. And it's so
(05:58):
funny because where we all listen to you. I mean,
I think that Bo and Bill can can just verify
every musician. I've been listening to you and other musicians
that I know have called in to answer a trivia
question or something. It's just hysterical, like something that I
just got off a gig with is in their car.
(06:21):
So this is like, this is Boston for your listeners
right now. This is really kind of legendary because you
guys have all been the fabric for what how many decades?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
For me, I've been here since roughly nineteen. I started
radio in nineteen eighteen. I've been with BZ roughly since
nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And Gigi, I want to tell you something like this week.
You have no idea how many phone calls I've had
to make and shifting times back and forth. Tonight I
had a guest who didn't show, and within three minutes
I was able to take a guest that I would
have had on Wednesday and insert her into tonight and
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do the best I can and try to make it
look seamless. It's a lot of hard work in the
doing radio.
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Was that your education person that you had on your
equational Yes, oh well that's great. Well I'll tell you
Bo and Bill, you had a situation that you really
needed coverage in, and I'm glad that it got to
be me because I like your last color Jimmy. You
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guys were talking to Jimmy and his story is kind
of my story with you with you folks.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Skip Jacks It was Skip.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
Jock's and I don't know how I managed to sit
in with you, but you both looked at each other
and you just weren't sure. I'm not sure because we
hadn't known each other, and you had this look of
relief once I started It's singing. Well, the relief that
was brought to your faces.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I sat.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
I went there with my husband.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
It was a.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Brunch and I sang a Billie Holiday arrangement, and I'm
so glad I got to do that with you over
the weekend. And I hope that your situation smooths out.
Speaker 9 (08:17):
And then.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I hope so too. But I want to tell you
you did an incredibly fantastic job, really, and you're a
great person and have a glowmote of talent. I'll tell
you thank.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
You so much. I really appreciate the compliments. And like
I said, it was an honor you had played forty
years ago at my friend's wedding, and I was just
it just made it more. I even wore the bracelet
she passed away, but I wore the bracelet she gave
me to the gigs, So that's.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
What I did.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
You're really very welcome.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'll be talking to you soon. I can assure you bybebye.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
There goes Gg and Jim and Boxford will be next
after these messages here on night Side, heard only on
WBC News Radio ten thirty with a time is eleven seventeen.
Temperature has been holding all night long. It's seventy five degrees.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
A lot of people have called in tonight. That's why
when I have the winnakers on, I usually slot them
for a two hour commitment, and I have one line available.
Anyone who wants to dial six one, seven, two, five
four ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine,
ten thirty, there is a line waiting for you. Let's
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go to Boxford and speak to Jim. Jim, welcome aboard.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Hey Morgan, how are you.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I'm fine, loud and clear.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Jim, great, this is the first for me. Actually, I'm
from Lynn. I'm in Boxford now, but I'm from Lynn,
and I just wanted to say I knew I became
middle aged when I could sit and watch on television
a Red Sox game and started to listen to talk radio.
(10:22):
I know I'm now old because I'm calling in for
the first time ever, so I just want to make
that introductories and so.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
What are you twenty three, twenty four years old?
Speaker 6 (10:34):
I'm being funny, give or take fifty years or so years,
you know, but I want to say hello to Bo,
because Bo and Bill, I'm not sure I ever met you,
but I met your father, because I don't know if
you remember Gil Fishman Bow and the jazz Boat and
the concert cruise.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh, we worked with Bill on the boat. We worked
with Gil and Fenton Holland for a number of years
and fantastic.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Yes, yeah, and that's I worked those two cruises for
the summer of seventy six and seventy seven while I
was going to law school, and that's where I met you.
And so impressed was I and my girlfriend at the
time with you guys that you actually played at a
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wedding in nineteen eighty one at the Oakley Country Clubs.
And why this is important, it was in November of
eighty one when the Great Lynn Fire happened and you
could see the half of the city burning down from
the hill in Belmont, you know, with the Oh my god,
country Club Oakland. I'm sorry, was it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay, yeah, Oakley Country Cup.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Yes, yeah, but you guys were fabulous, You were terrific.
It was great to be able to listen to you
and have you come entertain us. And I just wanted
to call in that say thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, will you do us a huge favor and someday
come out to Nioli and reintroduce yourself to us so
that we can, you know, reconnoiter our friendship.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Yeah, and that's Westwood, you said.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
West in Westwood, mass Yep, it's too. Eighty two Washington Street,
Naroli an E ro o l I. And you want
to ask for the Supper Club when you do come
with their one Thursday night a month. The next night
is September nineteenth, six pm, eight pm in the supper Yeah.
So I'd love to love to see you. You sound
(12:40):
so great. And are you still practicing law?
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Oh god, sadly yes. You know what they say about
old lawyers ever retired, they just lose their appeal.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I wish I had a room shot for that.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, Jill could have. You know, I always think of this,
but if you have a job that you love, you
never work a day in your life. And I know
Bill and I we've sort of found the fountain of
youth by being able to play music. And I just
want to see this that we owe our father a
tremendous debt of gratitude for sharing his love of music
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with us. I haven't said that yet, but I want
to emphasize that. And I don't want to short change
my mother because she told Bill and myself hundreds of times, boys,
it doesn't cost any extra to be nice, and the
more good deeds you do in this world will translate
into a better quality life. And Bill and I just
keep doing good deeds and our life gets sweeter and
(13:40):
sweeter by doing that. So Jim, thank you for sharing
that story with us. It's a fantastic story. And I
look forward to seeing you and your.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Wife, and kudos to you guys. And I'm sorry, well,
what was your dad's name again? Because he truly was
a gentleman and a wonderful musician.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, uh, ed ed Winaker, that was my father. And
you know those jazz boat cruises, we played them and
they were so exciting, you know, that was such a
great time for us. We of course, we played on
the Provincetown boat for five summers and we were doing
those jazz cruises and we were working awfully hard back
then and we're still working awfully hard, but we're having
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a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
So thank you. Ahead good. No, it's not work if
you love it right, it's exactly and Fenton were great
guys to work with you, so.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
They absolutely were. But thank you for taking the time
to reach out to us tonight. It really touches us steeply.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Thank you, Jim, first time ever. Thank you guys, and
let's take James from Midford. James, thank you for calling.
Welcome to Night Side. How are you. I'm finding you.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
I'm doing well. You know, I've never called one of
these shows before, but when you talk about the Winnakers,
it resonates in me because I know we have the
hipoprivacy and all that. But the mother I used to
take care of for her for treatments for ophthalmology.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh that's what radio does. It's a small world.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It reconnects, it does, you know.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
And she told me about the Winnakers. She told me
everything about the band, you know what I mean, And
honestly I knew nothing about it, and it made me
look up, you know, and start to do research on
it because she told me about the history of it.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You know, guys.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yes, it's so great of you the call. We appreciate
that so much. I'll tell you my mother has been
the first and that's been able to share all the
stories about our family for all these years, you know,
Bill and I sixty two years we've been doing this,
and my mother's the gatekeeper. She knows all the stories.
(16:13):
She knows of going down in New pomp Rhode Island
and playing for the Vanderbilts, and playing for mister and
missus Henry Cabot Lodge's fiftieth wedding anniversary. She knows all
the stories, and she's been the gatekeeper, and she met
you and she started sharing the stories of our music
with you. And it's so wonderful that you have taken
the time to call in. My mother's listening right now.
(16:35):
So if you want to send a message to her,
go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (16:39):
Well you let her know that I worked with doctor Song.
I was her assistant for years and that's how we met.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
My mother still goes every six weeks to get that
shot for macular degeneration, so she's still.
Speaker 10 (16:57):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So boy, it's so great to hear from you, and boy,
this was very touching that you would take the time
to call.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
You know, I'm driving, I'm just listening, you know, I
like listening to the talk shows. But honestly, God, this
is the first time I've ever called.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Well, I'm glad we got you to reach for the phone.
Speaker 10 (17:23):
I've never called any radio show in my life unless
I'm trying to win something.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Okay, Well, don't be such a stranger. You can do
it again and again after that.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
Honestly, you know I won't because it felt really good
to talk about this. You know, it's such a big
you know, her legacy, which is still going on, is
so amazing that it's something that needs to be talked
about on a regular beat.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
James, Well, we thank you for that very kind statement.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
You're welcome, and I appreciate everything that your family has
done in the music industry.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Thank you. I hope we hope our past will cross
one day.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I hope so too.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I really do, Okay, I hope, I hope.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
You You're welcome.
Speaker 10 (18:14):
I hope you guys have a great night enjoying good
luck with your mother and family.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Thank you, Jan Thank you so much.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
Have a great night, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
We will bye bye.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Now we're so close to a break, I'm not going
to take the next call. But Diane, I've got a
couple of commercials. I've also got the news hit. So
we'll get to you roughly about three minutes or so.
I promise you'll be right after that. Anyone else wants
(18:47):
to jump on six one, seven, five, four, ten thirty eight, eight, eight,
nine to nine, ten thirty. I am speaking with music
legends Bo and Bill Winnaker. They've been entertaining people in
the New England area beyond the New England area for
(19:07):
close to sixty plus years. And if they ever entertained
for you at a wedding or a function, whatever, you
want to call in and say thank you for what
they did for you back in the day. Here is
your opportunity. And before I do anything else, Tomorrow's Tuesday,
(19:28):
you want to come see me do Trivia Live. That
would be at the Midway Restaurant to sixty nine Washington
Street that's in Denham from six pm to seven point thirty.
Come on by. You'll get a chance maybe to see
some of the people that participate with me here in
(19:49):
BZ like mel Simon's. And that's about that. So let
me give it to Rob. Diane will next after these messages.
Time and temperature eleven twenty nine, temperature seventy five degrees.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's night Side with Dan Ray Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I am very fortunate to have Bill Winnaker his brother
Bo Winnaker, entertainers in this area for decades. And let's
go to fair Haven and speak with Diane. Diane, you've
got the Winnakers here for me.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Hello, Hello, Hello, this is Diane calling Saint Laurent. And
I couldn't let's me even go by without tossing my
hat in the ring bow. And Bill, especially Bo played
with my father for many, many years. My father was
a pianist, and Dave Bo was a household and Ed
(21:01):
was a household name around our house, and so I
feel like they are somewhat part of the family, and
so I just wanted to say, Hi, Oh you guys
doing tonight.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
We're doing really well. We're having a fun time. This
has just been a very exciting evening hearing from so
many people, and especially you. I want to talk about
your your dear departed father, Bill, Saint Laurent. He was
a member of my band for many years. He was
a bringing canist. He taught at Berkeley College of Music,
(21:33):
and you know, one of the greatest vibe players in
the world studied with your father, and he said he
learned more in your father's course than any course that
you ever had at Berkeley.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
And you know, yes, Gary Burton, Yeah, Gary Burton, he had,
he did. He gave a statement. He wasn't able to
be at my father's funeral, but he passed along at
statements that I read live. I mean, it was. It
was one of the most touching statements I think I've heard,
because you know, that's a part of my father's life.
(22:08):
I didn't really know anything.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
About you know.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
However, when I was at Berkeley, he knew who I
was and just opened right up to me about my father.
So it's been very touching over the years to meet
people who have known him.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, well, let's not let's not forget your mother either.
She was a brilliant teacher, pianist and teacher, and so absolutely.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Oh yes, yes, that's how they met. Yep, my parents met.
I got a lot of music in me, Yep, I do.
And I'm very grateful for having had both my parents.
My mother just recently passed away, but I just had
to say thank you so much for being part of
a joyous part of my father's life. He just adored you,
(22:58):
absolutely adored you.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
We had a great relationship and Bill had a twinkle
in his eye. You know, there was just something about Bill.
He was just such a lovely gentleman. Yeah, Brian musician
really honestly, he you know, he worked in Norwood at
the high school and he was a great conductor of
the chorus and everything. But he could play great jazz
(23:22):
and he had just do it all he could range.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
I do like to I have to take the blame
for that high school job because he was he was
digging quite a bit over the years and heavily, and
he was getting his masters at be Boston Conservatory when
I was born, and so this forced him to take
the quote unquote day job. But it turned out to
(23:47):
be one of the greatest experiences of his life. You know,
he's the choir director.
Speaker 10 (23:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
The students loved him, they did.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, they really did.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
You know, the whole all the students that that we're
lucky to say be in the courses.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
He led those courses.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Year after year.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
He they adored your.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Father they did, and they actually there's a number of
them that attribute their careers to him, you know, most
of them you can read on Facebook, you know, as
opposed to I don't see them, but I do catch
comments that they've made on Facebook about him, and and
(24:29):
had talked to him at his funeral as well, that
they attribute their own careers to him. So it's it's
just it's are inspiring, you know. I mean, he was
my dad practicing piano day and night, and and of
course he had his his groups over to the house,
and you know, I went on a few gigs with
(24:50):
him and my mom, so I got to see a
little bit of that. And he's he's the same at
home as he was out in the world. He's just uh,
you know, very You wouldn't know how much of a
genius he really was. I think because he was he was.
He had a very light touch to him, and he
was very personable.
Speaker 10 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, he was a gentleman in every sense of the word. Yeah. Yeah,
you're so so nice and thoughtful to call in tonight.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Well, I don't have as much to say as some
of your other people, but this is your life film
Bo and a Girl, wonderful wonderful to him.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Your call is spoken volumes. Believe me, you sent all
the right things tonight and we appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
I owe a deep gratitude to you. I really do. Yeah,
I know we've spoken on the phone. Now, we've spoken
since my mother's passing, which was seven months ago. But
prior to that, when I was growing up, we used
to speak on the phone. I was like a little secretary,
you know. And yeah, so it was. And it was
(26:02):
joyful here and practicing for his gigs and then loading
up the car like a one man band heading off
to play with the winn Grows. So I thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
We had a lot of fun and we made a
lot of great music. The music was always was exceptional
when Bill was playing that piano.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
On higher level. It really is.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, I want to say thank you for taking the
time to call us.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You're very welcome.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
And good night. We'll talk soon. Love you both very
very much.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
By now, before I take my last break of the hour,
there was a woman when I came to see you,
what three or four years ago at Brothers. There was
a young woman's singer and I cannot remember her name.
Is she still performing?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, she she's moved to California. She went off with
her boyfriend to California. I believe she's still doing some
singing out West, but she's been gone now for a
couple of years. What was her name, Zoe? Yes, that's it, yep,
lovely young woman.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well she's out in California, and you and I both
know that's a very rich place for a performer to be.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yeah, I want to interrupt for a second. She's actually
in Las Vegas, so you.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Might run into her in Vegas.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Moved, she moved to Las Vegas, and I don't know
exactly where she is, but she's there, and you love
Las Vegas. You're going to run into her, I think.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Well, I would love to if she is performing in Vegas.
I would love to sit in the audience and just
watch her singing entertain.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Well, we'll keep you posted when we get more information,
all right.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Because I I just got to feel this kid's got
it and she's going to make it one day.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Well, we put our heart and soul into working with her.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
We worked with her for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, we would get together with her every week, and
you know, As Bill and I have told you before,
we've mentored over two hundred musical musicians over the years,
and that's the throw for us. We love it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Name a couple of people that quote unquote have done well.
They've stepped up, so to speak, just right for a
couple of.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Grace Kelly, she is a young woman who has traveled
the world over. She's a saxophone player and singer. And
I worked with her for two years. She would come
over to my house and we would work and she
is a brilliant musician. She's very famous. Grace Kelly. I
mean you listen as they know her, okay. And Tony
(28:56):
du Bois. He's a blind autistic pianist living in the
Midwest right now.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
Me.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, Well, Tony is a genius. They have made a
movie about his life and they have written a book
about his life. That happened to happen to the Winnakers yet,
but that's happened to Tony de Blois and Tony. Yeah.
So those are two people that are pretty famous that
have traveled the world over. And then we have a
number of musicians. One of our trumpet players who worked
(29:26):
with us for years was the lead trumpet player with
Frank Sinatra. And he was in my band at.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
The Parker House and when he graduated college, after playing
with me for a few years, he got the job
as lead trumpet player with Frank Sinatra. And he always
calls us and writes to us and tells us he
owes it all.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
To us well to learn the swing like that.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
No, As I said, we have mentored over two hundred
musicians from Berkeley College and Music Wing the Conservatory, Boston University.
And you know, it's just something that we loved doing it.
It was giving back. That's why we did that. They
rehearsed at our house. I don't know if I've told
this story to you before, but they would. We lived
(30:15):
right in Coolidge Corner. Yeah, very very close to the
Trader Joe. It's very close to Trader Joe's. That's where
we live now. And we lived in a small little apartment.
They were apartments back then, they weren't condos. It was
rent control. We were living for one hundred and fifty
dollars a month for a two bedroom apartment. And in
(30:36):
the apartment we had a piano set up, we had
a string bass, we had drums and every Monday, we'd
take these COVID kids and we rehearsed with them for
two hours, and we'd be playing the swing music that
we were playing at the Parker House Hotel, and we
were teaching these young musicians, very gifted musicians, but we
were teaching them how to swing that music. And we'd
(30:57):
send them home with tapes of the music. That's when
they were cassette tapes. And then we played for two
hours and then Bill and I would drive. These would
have six, seven or eight musicians in our apartment. No
one ever complained. It was a six unit building and
we were blaring away, but it was swing music, and
you know, it wasn't that loud, but it was for people.
(31:17):
I said, you think the music's too loud. They said, no,
it's perfect. We love it. So we'd take the kids
to Newton to a restaurant called Cantina a Brutsi, and
back then on Monday, and on back then on Monday nights,
it was all the pasta. You could eat for less
than five dollars, and so we would treat these kids
(31:38):
to a meal. And you know, when you're a young
student and you get a free meal, that goes a
long long way. But this restaurant was all the pasta.
You could eat for like less than five dollars, and
I always ate more than any one of the kids.
I think, I think I have a hollow lake. People say, well,
where do you put it? I said, well, I verted off.
(31:59):
You know, I got a lot of uh, you know,
I don't know what do I have.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Anyways, did you guys play Zitos in Boston?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
No, we didn't know. We played at Grub.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Remember I played there too. I did trivia that.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
My god, you know what we were doing there. This
was before we worked at the Parker House Hotel. This
was our stop. We played about a year there on
Thursday nights, and we were doing the Gong Show of
all things at the end of the Yeah, well yeah,
we were playing swing music there. We had our six
p swing band playing there. But then we would do
(32:38):
the Gong Show and we had The place was packed.
It was the most hilarious thing you've ever saw in
your life, all the different acts that would come in
every week and play with us.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
But did you do jumping into the woodside for the
dancing machine?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Oh yeah, let me take my last.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Break, get it out the way and just chat with you, guys.
That's the magic of Bill and Bow. I'm gonna throw
it to rob By saying time and temperature eleven forty
seven seventy five degrees.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We have very few minutes left with my guests Bill
and Bo Winnaker. And if there are people out there
listening that would like to maybe learn how to play
an instrument, how to approach singing, how to do something
(33:44):
musically that you've always wanted to try but never really
had the gumption to go through with it, here is
your opportunity. Guys, give a phone number where people can
reach you.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Sure, they can reach us two ways. They can call
six one seven two seven seven six six seven three
that's Bill number, or they can call my number, Bose
number at six one seven four six nine three four
three seven.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
And tell everybody about the third week of September and.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well, on September nineteenth, from six to eight pm, we'll
be playing at Niroli. It's a wonderful Italian restaurant. You
can get anything there. It's located at two eighty two
Washington Street in Westwood. The phone number there because you
(34:44):
do need a reservation. It's seven eight one three, seven
five two five nine four Thursday September nineteenth from six
to eight pm. You need a reservation and make sure
you make it in the supper cub, which is in
the back of the restaurant. It holds eighty.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
People, so you just can't walk in off the street.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Well, you probably they set up a table. One of
my friends showed up without a reservation and he said
he was a friend of Bo's, and they brought out
a table for him and set it right up in there.
They had, you know, one extra seat available for him.
So no, it's a it's a good idea to have
a reservation. But sometimes you can show up and they
can sit you at the bar or something like that.
(35:29):
So it's worth a try, but i'd recommend a reservation.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So it's like the movie Goods Fellas if if you
kind of know somebody, if you get lucky, they'll bring
a table out the back and set set it down
right up front.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
They've done that a few times. They'll just they'll do
it because they're very they're very a chroma. That's it.
They are really accommodating.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Well they did it for ray Leota and Goodfellas.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
They sure did.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I know we have a couple of minutes left, but Morgan,
we want to thank you. And I know we haven't
been on for a number of months. You've called us
religiously and asked us to come and we said, you know,
we're just not ready now. But I'm so glad we
reconnected tonight. This was so much fun. I hope you
had as much fun as we did.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Oh, definitely, definitely, And we will do it again. You
know that.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Oh, I know that.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I know we will every two, three.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Four months. Your phone rings, It's me and I say,
can you do this date at this time?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Well, you know we're back now, we're back in the loop.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
We had a little time off. We just had to
take care of a few little things. But this was
wonderful tonight. It was just a very special evening.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Now, I want you to do me a favor, and
this is a personal favor. You did it for me
once before at Brothers. I want you to play a
little bit of Killer Joe and tell the people that
are there and ROLI's that you're playing this for your buddy, Morgan.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Consider it done. Just let us know when you're coming,
and we'll we'll take care of it. We'll you know,
we'll we'll take it right down the middle for you.
We'll swing it out for you.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Well, yeah, I'm there or not. Just knowing that you
play it okay all that matters. And I cannot believe
that I see the person calling in now with three
minutes of show to go, put them on. It's almost
I sure bet that she will call with me and
minutes of show to go. Rob screen her as quickly
(37:49):
as you can and change your light so I'll know
she's ready, because this is a woman from Wisconsin. And
and Karen, I say this to you all the time.
Why do you wait till the end of the show
to call in?
Speaker 9 (38:10):
Didn't you get the message? No, you're not supposed to
chastise me, because all I one does say hello and goodbye.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Well, call earlier to say hello and goodbye.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Well something I couldn't. I couldn't.
Speaker 10 (38:27):
And so.
Speaker 9 (38:29):
Is Bow and Bill.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
There still here?
Speaker 9 (38:32):
Go ahead here, Hi, Hi, Morgan and Bow and Bill.
And I just want to say hello to both you.
I love you both. I missed you, and I'm trying
to get out there and and with that, I'll see
it at midway and neurally's.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Okay, Okay, sounds good. But we should tell everybody that's
listening that Bo came out to Wisconsin and did a
big comment start out there and invited you and that
was quite a night.
Speaker 9 (39:04):
Yeah, sure was. I'll never forget it, I know. Okay,
thank you, Okay, good.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Night, good night, Karen. She has a habit of doing that,
calling at the very end, but you guys were her
incentive to call in. I want to thank you both
for coming on. I hope your mother continues to get
on the mend and you see all the people that
(39:38):
call in who have been touched by your professionalism and
the music that you have put forth Winnaker style, and
that's that's basically about it.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Well, we appreciate it so much. We appreciate you so much,
and I hope you have a great show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Night on Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Wednesday night.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, Ben Parker will be here tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
No, no, I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I'm talking about the restaurant gig.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Oh my restaurant gig. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, No, that's what I was referring. I was referring
to that.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Okay, Well, thank you for that and now I'll speak
to you guys. Next time I speak to you guys.
I also want to thank h William Keck who is
on Teacher Terry and I'll be here Wednesday night. I
want to thank Rob Brooks. I want to thank Terry
and Gray and the Dan Ray audience. Thank all of you.
(40:35):
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