December 22, 2025 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night's Tide with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm telling you at Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, welcome back everyone, as we move into our
fourth and final hour here on a Monday night. It
is December twenty second. Just a couple of reminders. Tomorrow night,
we will end my broadcast year. I've done this now
for thirteen years. We do what we call the Night
Side Charity Combine, and we have twenty really interesting charities,
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a variety of different charities. I think if you listen
tomorrow night, depending upon where you live and what is
what charity might interest you, you might find a charity
that you'd like to volunteer for, or you might find
a charity that you'd like to support financially. Big charities,
small charities, well known charities, lesser known charities.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
They're all all from New England.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
A couple of a couple of years we have charities
actually from outside of New England, but these are all
New England based charity. So we will start at ten
o'clock tomorrow night and we will actually introduce you to
twenty charities, a few of which you may know about,
but there's no one out there's going to know about
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all twenty of the charities, and no matter what your
interest might be, I think you'll find several that will
be of interest to you. So that's tomorrow night from
ten to twelve, and again that is my last show,
the night's id show of the broadcast year. I will
be back on the other side of January after New
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Year's and I will have a few days off to recharge.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And refuel and retool, and I'll.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Be ready to go sometime in early January. And I
hope you'll be back and up keep on the outlook
for me when we get back. Now, a couple of
things I'd like to talk to you about. A week
ago tonight, we were dealing with the shooting at Brown,
and of course the murder that occurred a week ago
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Monday night of the professor from m I T who
was shot to death at his home. All of that
now has been clarified, and today Brown's president has placed
the police chief on leave as the Trump administration launches
their investigation of Brown. The Department of Education is initiating
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a review of Brown's determined if it has upheld its
obligation under the law to vigially maintain campus security. You
will read this story in the newspapers tomorrow. Most of
these students have left and gone home for the Christmas
holiday In the New Year's holiday, the president of Brown,
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Christina Paxton, who did not cover herself in much glory
at some of those news conferences.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
She seemed to be.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Really out there and very on shore, has placed the
campus police chief on leave and is replacing him on
an interim basis with retired Colonel Hugh T. Clements, Junior,
the former Providence police chief. According to a letter that
she sent to Brown University, Clements will serve as Brown's
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interim vice president of public Safety, a role held by
Rodney Chatham. Chapman, the vice president of public Safety, is
considered the Brown police chief. Again, I don't know if
I don't think there's any suggestion that the police chief,
who was now on temporary leave, did anything wrong or
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did anything that was anything more than being police chief
at the time something happened. The university faced additional scrutiny Monday,
according to the Boston Globe story tomorrow, after a custodian
named Derek Lacy told The Boston Globe that he saw
Nevis Valante casing the building weeks before the shooting and
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flagged the suspicious person to a security guard. So now
that's the first time that it has come to my
attention that this guy was casing the buildings on the
Brown campus for weeks before this horrific incident that took
two lives and wounded a dozen other Brown students. So
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there's not much left to say on that except to
mention that back in August, the union representing Brown's ten
campus police sergeants issued a vote of no confidence in
Chapman and Deputy Chief John Vincent. Brown Security Patrol Persons
Association represents forty other employees, issued it's own vote of
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no confidence in Chapman and Vincent in October. So, you know,
just the coincidence of problems within the chain of command,
and it just so happens that at that same time,
when there were problems, you have somebody who ventures onto
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the campus with clearly maniacal intent to take out and
kill innocent, innocent people. So there's a couple of options
we have here for the eleven o'clock News if you
want to go back, if you were calling during the
nine We talked about a story in the Boston Globe
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today written by John Hilliard, which once again raises a
lot of questions about the death. The death of a
little five year old boy, lends Joseph of Hyde Park,
who was who died last April twenty eighth. It was
a monday, it was a beautiful monday. I remember it
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very well, in which he had gotten off his school bus.
I think all of you should remember the story. We
talked about it at nine And if you were listening
and you were holding on and you'd like to continue
to talk about that, you are more than welcome to
join us by within a matter of seconds, I mean
it was less than a minute. It was well less
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than him. It's like within the matter of five to
seven seconds the bus he got off the bus and
went across the street and the bus ran him over.
There's been no arrests, there's been no charges, no indictments.
Now the insurance company that insured Boston school buses has
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chosen not to renew its insurance policy. So now there's
another company that will be the insurer for Boston's public
school buses.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It's a mess. It's a mess.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
We invited the Suffolk County District Attorney tonight to join
us District attorney Hayden. He declined his office on his
behalf decline where he invited these Superintendent of Boston Public Schools,
Mary Skipper, to join us tonight. She also said she
had a conflict and couldn't be here tonight. Of course,
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the implication with that was that she could be here
another night. So Superintendent, if you're listening, you are more
than welcome to come in any night. We have one
hour open tomorrow night at nine o'clock. If you were
listening and would like to join us, we'd love to
have you take some phone calls from parents here in Boston.
So what I'm going to do is going to open
up the lines on the Lynz Joseph story, which we
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did at nine o'clock, and if folks want to talk
about that, great light it up right now. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten
thirty did an hour. Had some really good calls during
the nine o'clock hour. If that's it for the night,
I'm going to go to a different topic, but I'll
give everyone an opportunity to question and to raise the
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question and to join the chorus, which is saying it's
been eight months virtually. We're within a few days of
eight months since that accident. We are four months to
the anniversary January February, March. April was April twenty eighth,
so it's eight months ago that this little five year
old boy died. Now there's been no charges, no indictments,
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whatever investigations that have come up with. I don't know.
The driver obviously was having a very bad day for
obvious reasons driving. His certificate had expired, where's the responsibility?
As I said at nine, and I'll say it again,
if this happened in one of our more wealthy suburbs,
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I don't believe that this situation would have dragged on
as long as it had without some charges being filed.
A boy that is dead, there's no question about that,
and there doesn't seem to be much question about his
cause of death. He was run over by that bus
five seconds five to seven seconds after he got off
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the bus. Where's the responsibility? Where's the mayor? Where's the
school superintendent? Where are the city councilors? Why is there
not an outrage? It's been eight months.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Great peace in the globe today. If you get a
chance to read.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It, it's written by John Hilliard, and he has been
leaning coverage of this in the Globe and in both
the Globe and The Herald. He's been breaking stories on this,
and we will follow him, and I hope you will
not lose interest in this story, because if it was
your child, if it was your grandchild, I suspect that
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you would have been outraged. And I know I'm outraged
not only over what happened to this little boy, but
the fact that there's I'll follow up, no transparency, no
public information. It's almost as if they expect us to
let it go and it will just kind of disappear
into the ether, not on my watch. Six one seven,
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six one seven, nine thirty, coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
If you want to talk about that down now or for.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well until we come at it again, hold your piece. Uh,
I have another topic that I would like to open up,
but I'd love to hear from you if you want
to talk about the death of Lens Joseph and why
eight months later, there has been no arrest, no indictment,
and we know not much more about this than what
the Globe has reported, and we have talked about Nightside
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coming back right after this. You're on Nights Side with
Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Now, there is a pretty big controversy which erupted last night.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I don't know if any of you have an interest
in it, but I want to mention it because as
it involves a former colleague of mine, Sharon Alfonsi. She
is a described for The New York Times as a
veterans CBS sixty minutes correspondent, and apparently she had filed
a report which was supposed to be on sixty minutes
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last night following the football games. You know, this time
of year, the football games just get longer and longer.
There's still sixty minute football games, but there's more commercial
breaks and longer commercial breaks.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And so.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I guess this piece that she had put together dealing
with the prison in El Salvador where several of the
or many of the El Salvador and deportees were sent
were sent was scheduled to run last night on sixty minutes.
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And Sharon, who I know. I used to work with
Sharon when she and I were together at Channel four.
That's twenty years ago, so you know, it's not as
if we we've worked together recently. I did one piece
on sixty Minutes many years ago with Mike Wallace, so
I have a little bit of an understanding about how
it works at sixty minutes, and Sharon was quite upset,
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and I guess the producer of her piece was upset
because the new editor in chief of CBS News, Barry Weiss,
apparently requested changes to the segment, and a lot of
it dealt with with the fact that the Trump administration
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apparently had chosen not to respond. I believe that the
thrust of the piece was that the Sea Coot prison
down in Al Salvador is not a place you want
to spend the weekend. I certainly can understand that it
was a pretty nasty place. And according to an article
here in The New York Times from earlier today, which
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would probably be in the Time tomorrow morning, written by
Michael Grinbaum, the decision by Wise to basically hold the
story has drawn harsh criticism from Alphonsi herself. When CBS
abruptly removed a segment that they had promoted about Venezuelan
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men deported by the Trump administration to what the program
called a brutal prison and Al Salvador. I'm sure it
was a brutal I'm sure it is a brutal prison
in l Salvador. CBS announced to change just three hours
before the broadcast. I'm told that the story did air
in their Canadian edition. According to Alphonsi, she sent a
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memo to a colleague, which was then released to the media, which,
of course, that's how this stuff gets out. Sharon wrote,
our story was screened five times and cleared by both
CBS attorneys and standards and Practices. Wrote in the note,
a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times,
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it is factually correct.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
In my view.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Pulling it now after every rigorous internal check has been met,
is not an editorial decision.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It is a political one.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Weiss responded, which I think was smart, basically saying, my
job is to make sure that all stories we publish
are the best they can be. Holding stories that aren't
ready for whatever reason, they that they lack sufficient contexts say,
or that they're missing are missing critical voices happens every
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day in our newsroom.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I look forward to airing this important piece when it's ready.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Now, the question is, since she's committed to airing the piece,
let's see when it's air When it airs. Weiss was
appointed in October by David Ellison, the owner of CBS's
parent company, Paramount sky Dance, and Weiss acquired her independent
news and opinion site, The Free Press. Ellison's acquisition of
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Paramount earlier this year was approved by the Trump administration
after Paramount paid sixteen million dollars to settle a lawsuit
that Trump had brought against sixty minutes. So you can
see why sixty minutes might be a little sense. And
if the segment focused on Venezuelan men who were sent
by the Trump administration to the Terrorism Confinement Center, a
notorious prisoner in El Salvador, Yeah, it is not. It
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is not a good place, but maybe this is a
good place for people who are terrorists. In a news
release on Friday promoting this segment, CBS News said that
Miss Alfonsi had spoken when several men now released from
the prison who described the brutal and torturous conditions they endured.
How they get released that quickly? It would be one
question I would have. One of Weiss's suggestion since was
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to include a fresh interview with Stephen Miller, a White
House Deputy Chief of staff in the architect of Trump's
immigration crackdown or a similarly high ranking Trump administration official.
Two of the people said ms Wise provided contact information
from mister Miller to the Sixty Minute staff. MS Weiss
also questioned the use of the term migrants to describe
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the Venezuela men who were deported, noting they're in the
United States a legal tool. The people said, I think
that's a legitimate comment from Weiss. In her note, Miss
Alfonsi said her team had a requested comment from the
White House, the State Department, and the Department of Homeland Security.
If the administration's refusal to participate becomes a valid reason
to spike a story, we have effectively handed them a
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kill switch for any reporting they find inconvenient. And on
that point, I agree with Sharon Alfonsi completely. We've been
promoting this story on social media for days. Our viewers
are expecting it. When it fails to air without a
credible explanation, the public will correctly identify this as corporate ship.
We're training fifty years of gold stated reputation for a
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single week of political quiet. I care too much about
this broadcast to watch it be dismantled without a fight.
Reached on Sunday evening, ALFONSI said smartly, I refer our
questions to Barry Weiss. Anyway, let me see what I
lean in Cambridge. If she would like to comment on this,
I lean you in next on nightside.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Go right ahead, Well, I called about the school bus.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
At Okay, Well that's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Then a broad did not inform you of that, So
why don't you tell me about this your comment on
the school bus?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Well, I think it's very significant that you had calls
from as far away as Ohio and North Carolina. Yes,
when you first spoke about it to this evening, and
I want to thank you for keeping this in everybody's
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thoughts and not letting it just disappear.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I tend to be a little bit of a bulldog
on stories like this. When I sensed that cook for you, well,
I just I feel that, First of all, I do
truly believe that if this had happened in some of
our more wealthy communities, that this would not have been
been sitting there for eight months without any action taken
against anyone. Yeah, I'm not asking for a rush to judgment,
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but I think, as Sinatra saying, there's a long way
from a long time from May to December, and I
think it was called the September Song was the title
of the track we're talking about, and the days dwindled down.
I just don't understand why some decision hasn't been made
if they want to clear the bus driver, clear the
bus driver. But it's been it's been eight months. It's
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not a complicated case. As I said during the nine
o'clock story tonight, this is not the Kennedy assassination. We're
not talking about, you know, a second potential shooter on
the Grassy Knoll or anything like that. This is a
fairly cut and dried case. And I think that I
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think that that the family, uh should should get some answers.
And it looks to me, it sounds to me like
the the officials in Boston, whether it's the school superintendent
or the Mayor's office trying to sort of run the
clock out here, or the or the district attorney. We
asked the district attorney to come on. We asked Mary Skipper,
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the superintendent of Boston Public Schools, to come on. Both
of them are unavailable tonight, which they're often you know,
not available when it might be inconvenient, so I.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, I promise you good.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I went to elementary school in the state of Ohio,
and I can tell you it was dark in the morning.
And actually I was living with my aunt Eileen at
that time, and she was always out there with us
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because it was dark, and other other parents were out
there with their children because it was dark.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
But well, this this incident, Eileen, as you know, occurred
in the afternoon. It was after school, and I remember
the day very well. My granddaughter had been born the
day before. Uh, and it was a beautiful day.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It was at early spring day in which you had
a sense that you know, the spring was coming and
summer was close behind.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It was sunny.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Uh, the conditions were purpose were perfect. There was no
problem whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I remember that day. I do remember and totally shock shocking, totally.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Ali, thank you so much for calling. I hope you
have a great Christmas holiday. I'm not sure I think
you celebrate Christmas. If I'm wrong, please tell me. But
I wanted to issue great holidays and a gat and
a very successful and happy New Year.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Thanks, thanks so much. Okay, yeah, I celebrate Christmas and
have a happy Christmas yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Very Christmas I lead. Okay, thanks very much.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Thanks all right, we got We have the news coming
by at the bottom of the hour. So if you
want to talk about the CBS sixty minute story from
last night, feel free. If you want to continue to
talk about the school bus accident that took the life
of a five year old boy and now nearly eight
months later, literally we know no more about this horrific
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accident than the day had happened last April twenty eighth, Monday,
April twenty eighth, almost eight months ago. It's a long
time from May to December, folks, and this we should
have seen something on this. If you don't want to
talk about that, we can go open lines and you
can raise whatever subject you would like. We have not
talked about the US military UH presence uh in the
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off the coast of Venezuela. That's one that is very
interesting to me. We haven't even broached it yet. So
you got a couple of topics out there, or anything
that's on your mind. It's as simple as that. It's
a Monday night, six one seven, six one seven, nine
ten thirty, coming right back after the news at the
bottom of the hour. It's night side with.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
We give it the opportunity to talk about whatever you
like here on a Monday night.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
As they say, I have a short week here tonight
and tomorrow night we will wrap up the week and
wrap up the year with our final broadcast of the
year to WANTA, and we'll end the last two hours
with the Night Side Charity Combine, which.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Again is an idea that I have.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Borrowed from the NFL Combine, where basically football prospective draft
choices in the NFL show off their weirs, their ability,
their size, and their speed and their dexterity. And this
is an opportunity for great charities of all sorts, big charity,
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small charities, well known, not so well known, to have
a few minutes on air with me tomorrow night, and
we talk about their mission, who the people are that
they serve, what the purpose is, and give you an
opportunity to be in touch with them. No phone calls
during the Charity Combine, but give you an opportunity to
perhaps volunteer, find yourself something that you can be passionate
about or maybe be at least at a minimum supportive of.
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So we're talking about what's going on and I'm going
to give you an opportunity to raise whatever you want.
I would love to talk about Venezuela and what's going
on down in Venezuela. I know that I get a
sense that something's about to give and something's about to
happen down there, although not exactly sure whether it's gonna
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be a deal whereby Maduro leaves, we'll see. Let me
go to Joe and Belmont. Joe are gonna get you
going here?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Joe?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Welcome?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Thank you Dan. I would like to know your wisdom, understanding,
and knowledge on health insurance.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Now.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Is President's Trump gonna screw the poor people on health insurance?
Or is he just gonna protect his rich friends? Or
is it gonna take money away from the insurance companies.
I've heard the Democrats say he's gonna really do business
to the poor people. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, there's two sides to the argument, and it's gonna
get resolved at some point. Pressure will build. There's two
History is pretty simple. When Obamacare passed, subsidies were given
and the money went directly to insurance companies. When COVID happened,
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the subsidies were dramatically increased as you would expect because
the circumstances were very difficult for every American. Now COVID
has ended, and the Republicans want to sunset the COVID increases.
Those increases were agreed to by Democrats and Republicans that
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they would last for three years.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
The three years are up.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
The Democrats are now saying, let's extend the COVID increases
for the Obamacare subsidies. The Republicans are saying, wait a second.
The increases might have been justified during COVID and all
of the problems associated with COVID, but we need to
look at this afresh and come up with a better program.
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The Republicans are saying, we would like to give money
directly to people so they could purchase their own insurance
programs from whomever they want and cut off the insurance companies.
That's going to be debated, and I'm trying to give
you as fear and analysis of where we stand on that.
And at this point, I suspect that you might get
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a little bit of a compromise where maybe the Democrats
will get somewhat of an extension and a shorter extension,
and the Republicans will get some drawbacks, some pullbacks at
some point on the money that was available during COVID, But.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Maybe now is not justified because the only winners here.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Are the big insurance companies, and if you're in, if
you're on the side of the big insurance companies, I
think that's the wrong side to be on here, Joe.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I think that it's better that people.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Have money in their own hands and they can use
them money in whatever way they see fit. Young, healthy
people might say, hey, I'll save that money because I'm
not going to worry about being sick. Older people might
want to use that money to get better health insurance programs.
That's the easiest explanation I can give.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Dan. My feeling is that the Republican is socking it
to the middle class and poor people. I don't know
if I'm wrong or not. What's your opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I think that's you got to you got to come
to that decision yourself. I have told you what I believe,
I think I've I've called it down the middle as
to what's going on, and we're going to have a
lot of conversation about that after January, Joe, and I
don't know where you're going to come out on it.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
But you're a good listener. You you're loyal to this program.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I know you read stories, get as much information as
you can, and then let's see where it, uh, you
know where it comes out of the Endy.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I always appreciate your input.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Thanks, Joe. I appreciate your calls. Merry Christmas, Joe, right
back yet you damn thanks Joe. Let's keep rolling.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Here're going to go to my friend Patrick down in
the district of Columbia where it's all happening. Patrick, what's
going on down there? I know that you are a
denizen of the district. Is it safer in Washington? Is that?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
What's the feel in the in the city down there
right now?
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Well, I'm a smart guy. I'm not going in there
because the city will find some way to get you.
I will wait until after New Year's and go in
and take a look around. This is the time of
the year that I kind of stay out of it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Now.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate that it's the city government that
really gets on my nurves. Okay, you can't trust the
city government, but I think.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Within there was this, there was an email of it
that I expressed to you.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
About a DC police officer who was ambushed and shot
and he didn't wait for the for the rescue. He
drove him else as a hospital. You know, So I
don't want to get injured in Washington, DC because I
don't I'm really concerned about the nine to one to
one situation.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Refresh my recollection. When did that shooting was a police.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
It was back Oh gosh, maybe in worth two thousands,
but it's never okay.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Well that that's a while ago, and uh, you know
now I know that I know that they were the
two West Virginia National guardsmen, the woman who who was
shot and killed and the male, uh, member of the
guard of the West Virginia Guard who is still recovering.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
But it sounds like he is a long way to go.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That was an assassination attempt where the guy drove across
the country.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I'm just trying to get a sense of is the
feel of the city is it different at this point
or no?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
You know, the Trump administration and the President himself is
making claims that, oh, it's much safer. But I would
rely upon people like you Patrick and others who you
know occasionally are in the city.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
I would say it's borderline.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
It's just it's just borderline.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It really hasn't.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
The feel hasn't worked itself out well.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
After the.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Kind if after the first of the year, Patrick, you'd
be kind enough to go in and take a swing
through the city and tell me what you say, don't
put yourself in danger.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
But I'd like, why I do.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
I do my tour duties regularly, just so I so
I know what to do, Okay. I like to get
my pulse of the city, What's what's going on? Because
there's nobody like myself. And I'll tell you who knows
the ins and outs and back Alice and that knows
how to get around Washington, d C. Faster than anybody else,
you know. But I don't want to run into a
situation no one does.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Well.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Keep us posted, okay, keep us posting, all right? Thanks Patrick?
All right, Merry Christmas Palko.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Let me go to Matt in Florida. Hey, Matt, it's
been a while. How are you?
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Pretty depressed? Honestly, I I as you know, I voted
for Trump and I've just been so disappointed in this guy.
He's a complete, I mean, narcissist. And all he's done
is lie and outside of the immigration thing, which I
thought he's done a great job on, he's he's just
been a total disaster.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
You know, okay, hold on, hold on. I'm not a
Trump guy, but I just today.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
You're gonna tell me how we lowered gas prices like
ten cents? Oh big whoop? Oh everything's great. You know
that's what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
No, but I go, well, I'll tell you this. I'm
going to ask you what a gas price is in
Florida today?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
And where were they? You know, who cares?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Who cares? Who cares when soda is is for ten? Down? Here? Dan,
four dollars for a twenty ounce? Come on, spot for
the gas price?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Wait? Whoa, whoa, wah Wait a second? Hold on, okay,
hold on. Four dollars and ten cents for a.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Twenty or twenty ounce of coke. You drink diet cokes.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I don't drink from a diet Pepsi guy.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Let me ask you this at what at what twenty
four hour store are you buying twenty eleven?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Why are you going in?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Let me ask you a question. Have you ever heard
of what we call supermarkets? They have places down there.
I know because I've been in them called Dixie, and
you go in and you can get a case of
that probably for I don't know, ten bucks, I can
get a case.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
I don't want to. I don't want a case. I
just want want twenty ounce every day.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Well that's fine, then then you're gonna pay if you
go into a seven eleven. You do know prices in
seven elevens and convenience stores. That's why they call them
convenience stores.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Man, they weren't a year ago. A year ago, they
were you know, about two bucks a ball. Now it's
almost photo dolls. And you don't watch a Reese's peanut
butter cups is just two of them. It's like three dollars, Dan,
it's like three go to go to go to what
store up there? I guarantee it's like these things used
to be seventy nine cents for for two peanut and
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a couple.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Okay, so let me ask you.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I'm just not happy about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh I look, it's clear to me, and you have
every right that's affects you personally. I get it.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I totally get it. You talk about Trump did a
pretty good job. At immigration. Okay, that's fine, your problem. Okay,
how's the Middle East going right now? Good? Bad?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Are indifferent?
Speaker 6 (33:28):
It's pretty seems like it's pretty much the same it's been. Honestly, really,
how let me ask you this, he did a better
job last time. He's he did a better job last time.
He was actually wiping people out. He was just kind of,
you know, playkating to everybody over there, who's our enemies?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Honestly, let me ask you this, how's the Iranian nuclear
program going these days?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I mean, I don't know. I haven't been over there.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Have you been there?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Like, I don't know. Reports I read newspapers. I read
the reports. Well, I read the New York Times and and.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And and they wiped out they took a nuclear power
off the stage, you know, I mean, I mean, I
don't know. Look, I understand Reese's pieces are important, but
you got to look at the Iranian nuclear power thing,
because if they got the bomb, it wasn't going to
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take long before old Israel was going to disappear racist pieces.
There would be no way to buy recist pieces.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
This country seems to be more concerned with Israel first
than America first. To be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Well, I'm concerned. I'm concerned with Israel, and I'm concerned
with the fact that those nut jobs.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Run healthcare over there. They got three healthcare over there. Meanwhile,
we got people over here on the streets. You know,
many of those people wait.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa wasting mah man. Just beer with
me here, Okay, you want to keep moving around, we'll
move around. Many of those people who are on the
streets are mentally ill. They they believe they want to
live on the streets. I know doctors up here who
go around Boston at night trying to find and treat
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people who are mentally who were mentally ill.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
We were about.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Thirty years ago, said we got a great idea, let's
take all of these institutions where people are housed and
let's just put them back on the streets.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
That was a huge Yeah, that was in the eighties
when Reagan cut all that funding. Reagan got rid of
all the mental institutions. Now they're all out on the streets.
So that's some are Republican leadership there. That's not accurate.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
That's not accurate, But that's fine. Mike us Mike Dukoncis.
But Dork Ducock, you were around at that time. Mike
Doucoccus led that I.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Was about four years old, that you weren't born when
Washington was president. But you know, George, you read history.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Come on, can quick thing ahead? One more quick thing.
Did you hear Trump Trump lie about how his his
uncle John Trump at M I T taught them. Do
you hear about this? He said? He Trump though that
he Trump?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
You do know Trump's a narcissist. You do know the
Trump exaggerates, uh.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Consequential thing.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
As you know the un Obama went to Harvard correct.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Not to m I T.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
You know the story. I mean, you're gonna admit that's
that's outrageous story. Why are you gonna lie about something
like that? Wasn't them until after his uncle died ten
years before? Dan, I love the show.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I love it right back at Merry Christmas. We'll come
back right after the break.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I got Gail coming up and Charlie and Saugust and
uh buckle up, everybody coming back on that side.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on w B Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Let me go to my friend Geo and ready, Hey, GEO. Welcome, sir.
How are you go? Right ahead?
Speaker 6 (37:11):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Someone recently confused the words regarding Trump transitional president and
transactional president. And in the nineteen seventies when I was
going to conventions in Atlantic City, Donald Trump was known
as mystic five percent. And that's how he's conducting his presidency.
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He's now selling Nvidia chips to China, which we were
never supposed to do. That was the final straw.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
We might.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Not have had Trump as a president because he's prevented nothing.
In fact, by most of his actions are tending to
push Europe into the arms of Russia and China and India.
And it's everything he's doing is resulting in the United
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States being diminished day after day after day. By the way,
I want to say before I go, I want to
talk about fentanyl. Fentanyl is a legal drug for the
last forty years in the United States. It's used in
emergency rooms, it's used in emergency vehicles, it's used in
(38:25):
cancer wards. So is it morphine, Jill, But nobody's complaining
about morphine or saying that morphine is the reason that
we're in Venezuela. You do know, you do know that
you let me finish Dan.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Well, George, you can. But here's the thing, George, every
time you call, you just want to make a speech.
I like to have a conversation. You've been on for
a minute. In forty five.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Seconds, allow me to make a point before we can
have a car.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
How many points do you want to make?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Sentinyl is made by Johnson and Johnson. It's called the
Durogesic patch. And you open the envelope and it says,
take out the patch the patient has a traumatic pain
in his hip. A piece of the patch and put
it on the patient.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Okay. So the implication of what you're saying, geom.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
To monitor Geo, Geo.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
The implication of what you're saying is fentanyl is not
killing Americans? Is that what I'm supposed to believe from
what you're telling me?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Pot and panned cooked fentanyl has many impurities which kill people,
and it's also mixed with all kinds of other if
you're doing the killing.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Look, I've had fentanyl prescribed to me when I've had
some surgical procedure uh as a as A as an anesthesis.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
So you have met until now, you have never admitted
that it's a legitimate pharmaceutical. I have made you honest
in this last minute.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Well no, no, no, no, First of all, it is
so is it morphine?
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Okay, Dan Jan, you're engaging in rationalization total.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I'm trying desperately, Geo, to engage in a conversation with you.
Last year, last year, there were approximately seventy thousand Americans,
many of them under the age of forty, who died
from a fentanyl overdose. Because fentanyl is sent from China
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to Mexico, manufactured in Mexico, and brought over as an
illicit drug.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
They died because when you start to monitor the person's respiration,
their breathing, and their heartbeat, what pentanyl does is it
interferes with the transfer of electrons from your nerve. Ending
You're brilliant.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
You're brilliant. But tell that to a kid who just spoke.
Turn him down. Turn him down, Geo.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Tell that to the parents of a kid who smoked
a marijuana cigarette which was laced with fentanyl. Explain it
to them. Gotta go give them the plank. Good night, Geo,
Charlie and Saugust, I wish you had called earlier.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I would have got you in. But I'm done I'm
done for the night, back tomorrow night and I'm in
fighting shape.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Thank you Rob, beg you Karen who sent me. Thank
all of you, call the Gluey Geo, those of you
who particularly wanted to gage you in a conversation. All dogs,
all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's why Pal.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's
why your pets are who passed. They love you, You
love them. You'll see them again, hopes he'd get tomorrow
night and night's out. I will be on Facebook Nightside
with Dan Ray in just a couple of moments, and
we'll talk about tonight
It's Night's Tide with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm telling you at Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, welcome back everyone, as we move into our
fourth and final hour here on a Monday night. It
is December twenty second. Just a couple of reminders. Tomorrow night,
we will end my broadcast year. I've done this now
for thirteen years. We do what we call the Night
Side Charity Combine, and we have twenty really interesting charities,
(00:30):
a variety of different charities. I think if you listen
tomorrow night, depending upon where you live and what is
what charity might interest you, you might find a charity
that you'd like to volunteer for, or you might find
a charity that you'd like to support financially. Big charities,
small charities, well known charities, lesser known charities.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
They're all all from New England.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
A couple of a couple of years we have charities
actually from outside of New England, but these are all
New England based charity. So we will start at ten
o'clock tomorrow night and we will actually introduce you to
twenty charities, a few of which you may know about,
but there's no one out there's going to know about
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all twenty of the charities, and no matter what your
interest might be, I think you'll find several that will
be of interest to you. So that's tomorrow night from
ten to twelve, and again that is my last show,
the night's id show of the broadcast year. I will
be back on the other side of January after New
(01:38):
Year's and I will have a few days off to recharge.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And refuel and retool, and I'll.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Be ready to go sometime in early January. And I
hope you'll be back and up keep on the outlook
for me when we get back. Now, a couple of
things I'd like to talk to you about. A week
ago tonight, we were dealing with the shooting at Brown,
and of course the murder that occurred a week ago
(02:07):
Monday night of the professor from m I T who
was shot to death at his home. All of that
now has been clarified, and today Brown's president has placed
the police chief on leave as the Trump administration launches
their investigation of Brown. The Department of Education is initiating
(02:33):
a review of Brown's determined if it has upheld its
obligation under the law to vigially maintain campus security. You
will read this story in the newspapers tomorrow. Most of
these students have left and gone home for the Christmas
holiday In the New Year's holiday, the president of Brown,
(02:58):
Christina Paxton, who did not cover herself in much glory
at some of those news conferences.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
She seemed to be.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Really out there and very on shore, has placed the
campus police chief on leave and is replacing him on
an interim basis with retired Colonel Hugh T. Clements, Junior,
the former Providence police chief. According to a letter that
she sent to Brown University, Clements will serve as Brown's
(03:27):
interim vice president of public Safety, a role held by
Rodney Chatham. Chapman, the vice president of public Safety, is
considered the Brown police chief. Again, I don't know if
I don't think there's any suggestion that the police chief,
who was now on temporary leave, did anything wrong or
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did anything that was anything more than being police chief
at the time something happened. The university faced additional scrutiny Monday,
according to the Boston Globe story tomorrow, after a custodian
named Derek Lacy told The Boston Globe that he saw
Nevis Valante casing the building weeks before the shooting and
(04:13):
flagged the suspicious person to a security guard. So now
that's the first time that it has come to my
attention that this guy was casing the buildings on the
Brown campus for weeks before this horrific incident that took
two lives and wounded a dozen other Brown students. So
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there's not much left to say on that except to
mention that back in August, the union representing Brown's ten
campus police sergeants issued a vote of no confidence in
Chapman and Deputy Chief John Vincent. Brown Security Patrol Persons
Association represents forty other employees, issued it's own vote of
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no confidence in Chapman and Vincent in October. So, you know,
just the coincidence of problems within the chain of command,
and it just so happens that at that same time,
when there were problems, you have somebody who ventures onto
(05:20):
the campus with clearly maniacal intent to take out and
kill innocent, innocent people. So there's a couple of options
we have here for the eleven o'clock News if you
want to go back, if you were calling during the
nine We talked about a story in the Boston Globe
(05:41):
today written by John Hilliard, which once again raises a
lot of questions about the death. The death of a
little five year old boy, lends Joseph of Hyde Park,
who was who died last April twenty eighth. It was
a monday, it was a beautiful monday. I remember it
(06:03):
very well, in which he had gotten off his school bus.
I think all of you should remember the story. We
talked about it at nine And if you were listening
and you were holding on and you'd like to continue
to talk about that, you are more than welcome to
join us by within a matter of seconds, I mean
it was less than a minute. It was well less
(06:24):
than him. It's like within the matter of five to
seven seconds the bus he got off the bus and
went across the street and the bus ran him over.
There's been no arrests, there's been no charges, no indictments.
Now the insurance company that insured Boston school buses has
(06:47):
chosen not to renew its insurance policy. So now there's
another company that will be the insurer for Boston's public
school buses.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It's a mess. It's a mess.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
We invited the Suffolk County District Attorney tonight to join
us District attorney Hayden. He declined his office on his
behalf decline where he invited these Superintendent of Boston Public Schools,
Mary Skipper, to join us tonight. She also said she
had a conflict and couldn't be here tonight. Of course,
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the implication with that was that she could be here
another night. So Superintendent, if you're listening, you are more
than welcome to come in any night. We have one
hour open tomorrow night at nine o'clock. If you were
listening and would like to join us, we'd love to
have you take some phone calls from parents here in Boston.
So what I'm going to do is going to open
up the lines on the Lynz Joseph story, which we
(07:42):
did at nine o'clock, and if folks want to talk
about that, great light it up right now. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten
thirty did an hour. Had some really good calls during
the nine o'clock hour. If that's it for the night,
I'm going to go to a different topic, but I'll
give everyone an opportunity to question and to raise the
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question and to join the chorus, which is saying it's
been eight months virtually. We're within a few days of
eight months since that accident. We are four months to
the anniversary January February, March. April was April twenty eighth,
so it's eight months ago that this little five year
old boy died. Now there's been no charges, no indictments,
(08:30):
whatever investigations that have come up with. I don't know.
The driver obviously was having a very bad day for
obvious reasons driving. His certificate had expired, where's the responsibility?
As I said at nine, and I'll say it again,
if this happened in one of our more wealthy suburbs,
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I don't believe that this situation would have dragged on
as long as it had without some charges being filed.
A boy that is dead, there's no question about that,
and there doesn't seem to be much question about his
cause of death. He was run over by that bus
five seconds five to seven seconds after he got off
(09:12):
the bus. Where's the responsibility? Where's the mayor? Where's the
school superintendent? Where are the city councilors? Why is there
not an outrage? It's been eight months.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Great peace in the globe today. If you get a
chance to read.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It, it's written by John Hilliard, and he has been
leaning coverage of this in the Globe and in both
the Globe and The Herald. He's been breaking stories on this,
and we will follow him, and I hope you will
not lose interest in this story, because if it was
your child, if it was your grandchild, I suspect that
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you would have been outraged. And I know I'm outraged
not only over what happened to this little boy, but
the fact that there's I'll follow up, no transparency, no
public information. It's almost as if they expect us to
let it go and it will just kind of disappear
into the ether, not on my watch. Six one seven,
(10:13):
six one seven, nine thirty, coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
If you want to talk about that down now or for.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well until we come at it again, hold your piece. Uh,
I have another topic that I would like to open up,
but I'd love to hear from you if you want
to talk about the death of Lens Joseph and why
eight months later, there has been no arrest, no indictment,
and we know not much more about this than what
the Globe has reported, and we have talked about Nightside
(10:40):
coming back right after this. You're on Nights Side with
Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Now, there is a pretty big controversy which erupted last night.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I don't know if any of you have an interest
in it, but I want to mention it because as
it involves a former colleague of mine, Sharon Alfonsi. She
is a described for The New York Times as a
veterans CBS sixty minutes correspondent, and apparently she had filed
a report which was supposed to be on sixty minutes
(11:17):
last night following the football games. You know, this time
of year, the football games just get longer and longer.
There's still sixty minute football games, but there's more commercial
breaks and longer commercial breaks.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And so.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I guess this piece that she had put together dealing
with the prison in El Salvador where several of the
or many of the El Salvador and deportees were sent
were sent was scheduled to run last night on sixty minutes.
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And Sharon, who I know. I used to work with
Sharon when she and I were together at Channel four.
That's twenty years ago, so you know, it's not as
if we we've worked together recently. I did one piece
on sixty Minutes many years ago with Mike Wallace, so
I have a little bit of an understanding about how
it works at sixty minutes, and Sharon was quite upset,
(12:19):
and I guess the producer of her piece was upset
because the new editor in chief of CBS News, Barry Weiss,
apparently requested changes to the segment, and a lot of
it dealt with with the fact that the Trump administration
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apparently had chosen not to respond. I believe that the
thrust of the piece was that the Sea Coot prison
down in Al Salvador is not a place you want
to spend the weekend. I certainly can understand that it
was a pretty nasty place. And according to an article
here in The New York Times from earlier today, which
(13:01):
would probably be in the Time tomorrow morning, written by
Michael Grinbaum, the decision by Wise to basically hold the
story has drawn harsh criticism from Alphonsi herself. When CBS
abruptly removed a segment that they had promoted about Venezuelan
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men deported by the Trump administration to what the program
called a brutal prison and Al Salvador. I'm sure it
was a brutal I'm sure it is a brutal prison
in l Salvador. CBS announced to change just three hours
before the broadcast. I'm told that the story did air
in their Canadian edition. According to Alphonsi, she sent a
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memo to a colleague, which was then released to the media, which,
of course, that's how this stuff gets out. Sharon wrote,
our story was screened five times and cleared by both
CBS attorneys and standards and Practices. Wrote in the note,
a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times,
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it is factually correct.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
In my view.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Pulling it now after every rigorous internal check has been met,
is not an editorial decision.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It is a political one.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Weiss responded, which I think was smart, basically saying, my
job is to make sure that all stories we publish
are the best they can be. Holding stories that aren't
ready for whatever reason, they that they lack sufficient contexts say,
or that they're missing are missing critical voices happens every
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day in our newsroom.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I look forward to airing this important piece when it's ready.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Now, the question is, since she's committed to airing the piece,
let's see when it's air When it airs. Weiss was
appointed in October by David Ellison, the owner of CBS's
parent company, Paramount sky Dance, and Weiss acquired her independent
news and opinion site, The Free Press. Ellison's acquisition of
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Paramount earlier this year was approved by the Trump administration
after Paramount paid sixteen million dollars to settle a lawsuit
that Trump had brought against sixty minutes. So you can
see why sixty minutes might be a little sense. And
if the segment focused on Venezuelan men who were sent
by the Trump administration to the Terrorism Confinement Center, a
notorious prisoner in El Salvador, Yeah, it is not. It
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is not a good place, but maybe this is a
good place for people who are terrorists. In a news
release on Friday promoting this segment, CBS News said that
Miss Alfonsi had spoken when several men now released from
the prison who described the brutal and torturous conditions they endured.
How they get released that quickly? It would be one
question I would have. One of Weiss's suggestion since was
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to include a fresh interview with Stephen Miller, a White
House Deputy Chief of staff in the architect of Trump's
immigration crackdown or a similarly high ranking Trump administration official.
Two of the people said ms Wise provided contact information
from mister Miller to the Sixty Minute staff. MS Weiss
also questioned the use of the term migrants to describe
(16:21):
the Venezuela men who were deported, noting they're in the
United States a legal tool. The people said, I think
that's a legitimate comment from Weiss. In her note, Miss
Alfonsi said her team had a requested comment from the
White House, the State Department, and the Department of Homeland Security.
If the administration's refusal to participate becomes a valid reason
to spike a story, we have effectively handed them a
(16:42):
kill switch for any reporting they find inconvenient. And on
that point, I agree with Sharon Alfonsi completely. We've been
promoting this story on social media for days. Our viewers
are expecting it. When it fails to air without a
credible explanation, the public will correctly identify this as corporate ship.
We're training fifty years of gold stated reputation for a
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single week of political quiet. I care too much about
this broadcast to watch it be dismantled without a fight.
Reached on Sunday evening, ALFONSI said smartly, I refer our
questions to Barry Weiss. Anyway, let me see what I
lean in Cambridge. If she would like to comment on this,
I lean you in next on nightside.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Go right ahead, Well, I called about the school bus.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
At Okay, Well that's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Then a broad did not inform you of that, So
why don't you tell me about this your comment on
the school bus?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Well, I think it's very significant that you had calls
from as far away as Ohio and North Carolina. Yes,
when you first spoke about it to this evening, and
I want to thank you for keeping this in everybody's
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thoughts and not letting it just disappear.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I tend to be a little bit of a bulldog
on stories like this. When I sensed that cook for you, well,
I just I feel that, First of all, I do
truly believe that if this had happened in some of
our more wealthy communities, that this would not have been
been sitting there for eight months without any action taken
against anyone. Yeah, I'm not asking for a rush to judgment,
(18:27):
but I think, as Sinatra saying, there's a long way
from a long time from May to December, and I
think it was called the September Song was the title
of the track we're talking about, and the days dwindled down.
I just don't understand why some decision hasn't been made
if they want to clear the bus driver, clear the
bus driver. But it's been it's been eight months. It's
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not a complicated case. As I said during the nine
o'clock story tonight, this is not the Kennedy assassination. We're
not talking about, you know, a second potential shooter on
the Grassy Knoll or anything like that. This is a
fairly cut and dried case. And I think that I
(19:11):
think that that the family, uh should should get some answers.
And it looks to me, it sounds to me like
the the officials in Boston, whether it's the school superintendent
or the Mayor's office trying to sort of run the
clock out here, or the or the district attorney. We
asked the district attorney to come on. We asked Mary Skipper,
(19:32):
the superintendent of Boston Public Schools, to come on. Both
of them are unavailable tonight, which they're often you know,
not available when it might be inconvenient, so I.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, I promise you good.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I went to elementary school in the state of Ohio,
and I can tell you it was dark in the morning.
And actually I was living with my aunt Eileen at
that time, and she was always out there with us
(20:17):
because it was dark, and other other parents were out
there with their children because it was dark.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
But well, this this incident, Eileen, as you know, occurred
in the afternoon. It was after school, and I remember
the day very well. My granddaughter had been born the
day before. Uh, and it was a beautiful day.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It was at early spring day in which you had
a sense that you know, the spring was coming and
summer was close behind.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It was sunny.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Uh, the conditions were purpose were perfect. There was no
problem whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I remember that day. I do remember and totally shock shocking, totally.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Ali, thank you so much for calling. I hope you
have a great Christmas holiday. I'm not sure I think
you celebrate Christmas. If I'm wrong, please tell me. But
I wanted to issue great holidays and a gat and
a very successful and happy New Year.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Thanks, thanks so much. Okay, yeah, I celebrate Christmas and
have a happy Christmas yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Very Christmas I lead. Okay, thanks very much.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Thanks all right, we got We have the news coming
by at the bottom of the hour. So if you
want to talk about the CBS sixty minute story from
last night, feel free. If you want to continue to
talk about the school bus accident that took the life
of a five year old boy and now nearly eight
months later, literally we know no more about this horrific
(21:51):
accident than the day had happened last April twenty eighth, Monday,
April twenty eighth, almost eight months ago. It's a long
time from May to December, folks, and this we should
have seen something on this. If you don't want to
talk about that, we can go open lines and you
can raise whatever subject you would like. We have not
talked about the US military UH presence uh in the
(22:18):
off the coast of Venezuela. That's one that is very
interesting to me. We haven't even broached it yet. So
you got a couple of topics out there, or anything
that's on your mind. It's as simple as that. It's
a Monday night, six one seven, six one seven, nine
ten thirty, coming right back after the news at the
bottom of the hour. It's night side with.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
We give it the opportunity to talk about whatever you
like here on a Monday night.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
As they say, I have a short week here tonight
and tomorrow night we will wrap up the week and
wrap up the year with our final broadcast of the
year to WANTA, and we'll end the last two hours
with the Night Side Charity Combine, which.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Again is an idea that I have.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Borrowed from the NFL Combine, where basically football prospective draft
choices in the NFL show off their weirs, their ability,
their size, and their speed and their dexterity. And this
is an opportunity for great charities of all sorts, big charity,
(23:28):
small charities, well known, not so well known, to have
a few minutes on air with me tomorrow night, and
we talk about their mission, who the people are that
they serve, what the purpose is, and give you an
opportunity to be in touch with them. No phone calls
during the Charity Combine, but give you an opportunity to
perhaps volunteer, find yourself something that you can be passionate
about or maybe be at least at a minimum supportive of.
(23:52):
So we're talking about what's going on and I'm going
to give you an opportunity to raise whatever you want.
I would love to talk about Venezuela and what's going
on down in Venezuela. I know that I get a
sense that something's about to give and something's about to
happen down there, although not exactly sure whether it's gonna
(24:15):
be a deal whereby Maduro leaves, we'll see. Let me
go to Joe and Belmont. Joe are gonna get you
going here?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Joe?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Welcome?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Thank you Dan. I would like to know your wisdom, understanding,
and knowledge on health insurance.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Now.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Is President's Trump gonna screw the poor people on health insurance?
Or is he just gonna protect his rich friends? Or
is it gonna take money away from the insurance companies.
I've heard the Democrats say he's gonna really do business
to the poor people. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, there's two sides to the argument, and it's gonna
get resolved at some point. Pressure will build. There's two
History is pretty simple. When Obamacare passed, subsidies were given
and the money went directly to insurance companies. When COVID happened,
(25:11):
the subsidies were dramatically increased as you would expect because
the circumstances were very difficult for every American. Now COVID
has ended, and the Republicans want to sunset the COVID increases.
Those increases were agreed to by Democrats and Republicans that
(25:32):
they would last for three years.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
The three years are up.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
The Democrats are now saying, let's extend the COVID increases
for the Obamacare subsidies. The Republicans are saying, wait a second.
The increases might have been justified during COVID and all
of the problems associated with COVID, but we need to
look at this afresh and come up with a better program.
(25:56):
The Republicans are saying, we would like to give money
directly to people so they could purchase their own insurance
programs from whomever they want and cut off the insurance companies.
That's going to be debated, and I'm trying to give
you as fear and analysis of where we stand on that.
And at this point, I suspect that you might get
(26:19):
a little bit of a compromise where maybe the Democrats
will get somewhat of an extension and a shorter extension,
and the Republicans will get some drawbacks, some pullbacks at
some point on the money that was available during COVID, But.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Maybe now is not justified because the only winners here.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Are the big insurance companies, and if you're in, if
you're on the side of the big insurance companies, I
think that's the wrong side to be on here, Joe.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I think that it's better that people.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Have money in their own hands and they can use
them money in whatever way they see fit. Young, healthy
people might say, hey, I'll save that money because I'm
not going to worry about being sick. Older people might
want to use that money to get better health insurance programs.
That's the easiest explanation I can give.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Dan. My feeling is that the Republican is socking it
to the middle class and poor people. I don't know
if I'm wrong or not. What's your opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I think that's you got to you got to come
to that decision yourself. I have told you what I believe,
I think I've I've called it down the middle as
to what's going on, and we're going to have a
lot of conversation about that after January, Joe, and I
don't know where you're going to come out on it.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
But you're a good listener. You you're loyal to this program.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I know you read stories, get as much information as
you can, and then let's see where it, uh, you
know where it comes out of the Endy.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I always appreciate your input.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Thanks, Joe. I appreciate your calls. Merry Christmas, Joe, right
back yet you damn thanks Joe. Let's keep rolling.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Here're going to go to my friend Patrick down in
the district of Columbia where it's all happening. Patrick, what's
going on down there? I know that you are a
denizen of the district. Is it safer in Washington? Is that?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
What's the feel in the in the city down there
right now?
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Well, I'm a smart guy. I'm not going in there
because the city will find some way to get you.
I will wait until after New Year's and go in
and take a look around. This is the time of
the year that I kind of stay out of it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Now.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate that it's the city government that
really gets on my nurves. Okay, you can't trust the
city government, but I think.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Within there was this, there was an email of it
that I expressed to you.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
About a DC police officer who was ambushed and shot
and he didn't wait for the for the rescue. He
drove him else as a hospital. You know, So I
don't want to get injured in Washington, DC because I
don't I'm really concerned about the nine to one to
one situation.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Refresh my recollection. When did that shooting was a police.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
It was back Oh gosh, maybe in worth two thousands,
but it's never okay.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Well that that's a while ago, and uh, you know
now I know that I know that they were the
two West Virginia National guardsmen, the woman who who was
shot and killed and the male, uh, member of the
guard of the West Virginia Guard who is still recovering.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
But it sounds like he is a long way to go.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That was an assassination attempt where the guy drove across
the country.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I'm just trying to get a sense of is the
feel of the city is it different at this point
or no?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
You know, the Trump administration and the President himself is
making claims that, oh, it's much safer. But I would
rely upon people like you Patrick and others who you
know occasionally are in the city.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
I would say it's borderline.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
It's just it's just borderline.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It really hasn't.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
The feel hasn't worked itself out well.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
After the.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Kind if after the first of the year, Patrick, you'd
be kind enough to go in and take a swing
through the city and tell me what you say, don't
put yourself in danger.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
But I'd like, why I do.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
I do my tour duties regularly, just so I so
I know what to do, Okay. I like to get
my pulse of the city, What's what's going on? Because
there's nobody like myself. And I'll tell you who knows
the ins and outs and back Alice and that knows
how to get around Washington, d C. Faster than anybody else,
you know. But I don't want to run into a
situation no one does.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Well.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Keep us posted, okay, keep us posting, all right? Thanks Patrick?
All right, Merry Christmas Palko.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Let me go to Matt in Florida. Hey, Matt, it's
been a while. How are you?
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Pretty depressed? Honestly, I I as you know, I voted
for Trump and I've just been so disappointed in this guy.
He's a complete, I mean, narcissist. And all he's done
is lie and outside of the immigration thing, which I
thought he's done a great job on, he's he's just
been a total disaster.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
You know, okay, hold on, hold on. I'm not a
Trump guy, but I just today.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
You're gonna tell me how we lowered gas prices like
ten cents? Oh big whoop? Oh everything's great. You know
that's what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
No, but I go, well, I'll tell you this. I'm
going to ask you what a gas price is in
Florida today?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
And where were they? You know, who cares?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Who cares? Who cares when soda is is for ten? Down? Here? Dan,
four dollars for a twenty ounce? Come on, spot for
the gas price?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Wait? Whoa, whoa, wah Wait a second? Hold on, okay,
hold on. Four dollars and ten cents for a.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Twenty or twenty ounce of coke. You drink diet cokes.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I don't drink from a diet Pepsi guy.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Let me ask you this at what at what twenty
four hour store are you buying twenty eleven?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Why are you going in?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Let me ask you a question. Have you ever heard
of what we call supermarkets? They have places down there.
I know because I've been in them called Dixie, and
you go in and you can get a case of
that probably for I don't know, ten bucks, I can
get a case.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
I don't want to. I don't want a case. I
just want want twenty ounce every day.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Well that's fine, then then you're gonna pay if you
go into a seven eleven. You do know prices in
seven elevens and convenience stores. That's why they call them
convenience stores.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Man, they weren't a year ago. A year ago, they
were you know, about two bucks a ball. Now it's
almost photo dolls. And you don't watch a Reese's peanut
butter cups is just two of them. It's like three dollars, Dan,
it's like three go to go to go to what
store up there? I guarantee it's like these things used
to be seventy nine cents for for two peanut and
(33:06):
a couple.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Okay, so let me ask you.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I'm just not happy about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh I look, it's clear to me, and you have
every right that's affects you personally. I get it.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I totally get it. You talk about Trump did a
pretty good job. At immigration. Okay, that's fine, your problem. Okay,
how's the Middle East going right now? Good? Bad?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Are indifferent?
Speaker 6 (33:28):
It's pretty seems like it's pretty much the same it's been. Honestly, really,
how let me ask you this, he did a better
job last time. He's he did a better job last time.
He was actually wiping people out. He was just kind of,
you know, playkating to everybody over there, who's our enemies?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Honestly, let me ask you this, how's the Iranian nuclear
program going these days?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I mean, I don't know. I haven't been over there.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Have you been there?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Like, I don't know. Reports I read newspapers. I read
the reports. Well, I read the New York Times and and.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And and they wiped out they took a nuclear power
off the stage, you know, I mean, I mean, I
don't know. Look, I understand Reese's pieces are important, but
you got to look at the Iranian nuclear power thing,
because if they got the bomb, it wasn't going to
(34:24):
take long before old Israel was going to disappear racist pieces.
There would be no way to buy recist pieces.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
This country seems to be more concerned with Israel first
than America first. To be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Well, I'm concerned. I'm concerned with Israel, and I'm concerned
with the fact that those nut jobs.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Run healthcare over there. They got three healthcare over there. Meanwhile,
we got people over here on the streets. You know,
many of those people wait.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa wasting mah man. Just beer with
me here, Okay, you want to keep moving around, we'll
move around. Many of those people who are on the
streets are mentally ill. They they believe they want to
live on the streets. I know doctors up here who
go around Boston at night trying to find and treat
(35:14):
people who are mentally who were mentally ill.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
We were about.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Thirty years ago, said we got a great idea, let's
take all of these institutions where people are housed and
let's just put them back on the streets.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
That was a huge Yeah, that was in the eighties
when Reagan cut all that funding. Reagan got rid of
all the mental institutions. Now they're all out on the streets.
So that's some are Republican leadership there. That's not accurate.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
That's not accurate, But that's fine. Mike us Mike Dukoncis.
But Dork Ducock, you were around at that time. Mike
Doucoccus led that I.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Was about four years old, that you weren't born when
Washington was president. But you know, George, you read history.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Come on, can quick thing ahead? One more quick thing.
Did you hear Trump Trump lie about how his his
uncle John Trump at M I T taught them. Do
you hear about this? He said? He Trump though that
he Trump?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
You do know Trump's a narcissist. You do know the
Trump exaggerates, uh.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Consequential thing.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
As you know the un Obama went to Harvard correct.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Not to m I T.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
You know the story. I mean, you're gonna admit that's
that's outrageous story. Why are you gonna lie about something
like that? Wasn't them until after his uncle died ten
years before? Dan, I love the show.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I love it right back at Merry Christmas. We'll come
back right after the break.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I got Gail coming up and Charlie and Saugust and
uh buckle up, everybody coming back on that side.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on w B Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Let me go to my friend Geo and ready, Hey, GEO. Welcome, sir.
How are you go? Right ahead?
Speaker 6 (37:11):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Someone recently confused the words regarding Trump transitional president and
transactional president. And in the nineteen seventies when I was
going to conventions in Atlantic City, Donald Trump was known
as mystic five percent. And that's how he's conducting his presidency.
(37:33):
He's now selling Nvidia chips to China, which we were
never supposed to do. That was the final straw.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
We might.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Not have had Trump as a president because he's prevented nothing.
In fact, by most of his actions are tending to
push Europe into the arms of Russia and China and India.
And it's everything he's doing is resulting in the United
(38:05):
States being diminished day after day after day. By the way,
I want to say before I go, I want to
talk about fentanyl. Fentanyl is a legal drug for the
last forty years in the United States. It's used in
emergency rooms, it's used in emergency vehicles, it's used in
(38:25):
cancer wards. So is it morphine, Jill, But nobody's complaining
about morphine or saying that morphine is the reason that
we're in Venezuela. You do know, you do know that
you let me finish Dan.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Well, George, you can. But here's the thing, George, every
time you call, you just want to make a speech.
I like to have a conversation. You've been on for
a minute. In forty five.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Seconds, allow me to make a point before we can
have a car.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
How many points do you want to make?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Sentinyl is made by Johnson and Johnson. It's called the
Durogesic patch. And you open the envelope and it says,
take out the patch the patient has a traumatic pain
in his hip. A piece of the patch and put
it on the patient.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Okay. So the implication of what you're saying, geom.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
To monitor Geo, Geo.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
The implication of what you're saying is fentanyl is not
killing Americans? Is that what I'm supposed to believe from
what you're telling me?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Pot and panned cooked fentanyl has many impurities which kill people,
and it's also mixed with all kinds of other if
you're doing the killing.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Look, I've had fentanyl prescribed to me when I've had
some surgical procedure uh as a as A as an anesthesis.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
So you have met until now, you have never admitted
that it's a legitimate pharmaceutical. I have made you honest
in this last minute.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Well no, no, no, no, First of all, it is
so is it morphine?
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Okay, Dan Jan, you're engaging in rationalization total.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I'm trying desperately, Geo, to engage in a conversation with you.
Last year, last year, there were approximately seventy thousand Americans,
many of them under the age of forty, who died
from a fentanyl overdose. Because fentanyl is sent from China
(40:40):
to Mexico, manufactured in Mexico, and brought over as an
illicit drug.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
They died because when you start to monitor the person's respiration,
their breathing, and their heartbeat, what pentanyl does is it
interferes with the transfer of electrons from your nerve. Ending
You're brilliant.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
You're brilliant. But tell that to a kid who just spoke.
Turn him down. Turn him down, Geo.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Tell that to the parents of a kid who smoked
a marijuana cigarette which was laced with fentanyl. Explain it
to them. Gotta go give them the plank. Good night, Geo,
Charlie and Saugust, I wish you had called earlier.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I would have got you in. But I'm done I'm
done for the night, back tomorrow night and I'm in
fighting shape.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Thank you Rob, beg you Karen who sent me. Thank
all of you, call the Gluey Geo, those of you
who particularly wanted to gage you in a conversation. All dogs,
all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's why Pal.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's
why your pets are who passed. They love you, You
love them. You'll see them again, hopes he'd get tomorrow
night and night's out. I will be on Facebook Nightside
with Dan Ray in just a couple of moments, and
we'll talk about tonight
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