October 6, 2025 • 38 mins
Over the weekend South End residents described seeing a large crowd of nearly 100 people involved in what appeared to be a chaotic scene on Mass Ave and Tremont St. Boston police say the group of people threw fireworks, traffic cones, poles, and other objects at cruisers during a “large-scale vehicle takeover" where a police cruiser was set on fire. A similar incident occurred in Randolph, MA just an hour earlier. Are the two incidents connected? What spurred the vehicle takeover? Some point to a growing nationwide trend.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
By the way, two quick things, I will talk later.
I want to continue this conversation into in this new
hour here if you've just joined us. We're talking about
these car meetups where kids at two o'clock in the
morning meet up take over an intersection and it turned
into pandemonium at the intersection of Tremont Street and Mass
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Avenue on Sunday morning about one point thirty. It was
a Boston police cruiser which was destroyed. Two knuckleheads from
Rhode Island were arragined today on a variety of charges,
including assault on police officers, an eighteen year old from Cumberland,
Rhode Island and a nineteen year old from Woolwick, Rhode Island.
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As they said, I'm sure they were like on their
way to the early morning mass somewhere else on MENSA
meeting and they got caught up in this. That will
be their plea in court. I'm sure we'll talk about
that as time goes on. But I want to hear
from as many of you as possible. If you don't
think this stuff can get out of control. I'll just
mention one thing real quickly. Can you imagine if someone
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had a heart attack or someone was hit in an
intersection when all the police were drawn to this officer
in trouble call and it's really an officer in trouble
and it's made up. I mean the police officer was
surrounded in the vehicle and who was being assaulted by
sticks and fireworks, etc. In the car eventually caught on fire,
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and I suspected there was someone on a mini Molotov cocktail.
I don't think a fire cracker bursting or a sparkler
would light a police car on fire. So this is
serious stuff, not only for the people who were there,
the people in the South End who enjoy some peace
and quietude when Saturday evening ends, but in any other
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portion of the city because police units at that hour
of the night fully staffed for a daytime shift. And
I didn't get into that with Larry called Rome. But
there could be someone who could be injured badly, or
there could be someone who's calling because someone's breaking into
their apartment. That's the secondary victims here as well as
the police. I do want to say that I want
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to thank Bradley Jay who sat in for me on
Friday night. He didn't get a chance to mention that
off the top of the at the top of the
show at eight o'clock. And also I had a great
event on Friday night with some former colleagues from WBZ
in the nineteen eighties, and maybe we'll talk about that
a little bit later. But I want to get right
to the calls. I don't want to tie people up.
We'll take him in order. I'm going to go next
to Judy in Boston. Judy, I appreciate your calling in.
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I think this is a very serious topic and the
city needs to get ahead of this and get ahead
of it quickly.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I think absolutely just happens. I love, love, love police officers.
I grew up with them all around me. I can
remember them on the Kana and they'd always help us,
or they tell us to get home because we're packing up.
The other thing is, I think these kids are criminals.
I don't know why they were even allowed out on bill.
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The bill was ridiculous. I also think the only reason
you put a cruiser on fire is to kill them
or to injure them so bad, and it was just
a disgrace. And I just think they're from Rhode Island.
I think this whole thing is a disgrace. I think
a couple of years ago there was police cause on
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fired down by all the stores on Newbury Street when
they were all damage. But I think there's a struggle
of people going into the police department because they know
this stuff doesn't I mean, this stuff happens. So I'm
really sorry. But thank you to all the police.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, Judy, I appreciate very much. I appreciate you call them,
and I think that there are police officers who are
listening and who need to hear that. Again. I was
concerned that there could have been you know, there could
be a child that is having it is choking or something,
and the police officer who might be somewhere in Hyde
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Park or West Roxbury, or Roxbury or Charlestown or South Boston,
who ordinarily might be two blocks away and could respond
to a call for help if they're involved in an
unnecessary street demonstration. At one point thirty two o'clock on
a Sunday morning in the South End, when the call
officer in trouble comes in, every police officer is duty
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bound to get there and try to help that police officer.
But this could have dire consequences for you know, someone
who's suffering a heart attack, as they say, someone who
is trying to get out of a bad domestic situation
at one thirty in the morning. You got to think
about it. And these kids aren't thinking about anything other
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than raising hell and in some cases trying to stir
up I'm sure that these kids who got arrested, they
didn't look to me like they were the ring leaders.
I'm sure they were knuckleheads and they probably did something
really stupid and were so stupid they got caught. The
kids were there in the masks, which do you know
when I sent when I referenced the guy Fox mask,
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they're like these masks where the faces distorted and they're
pretty scary. I mean, if someone walking down the street
and they're they're they're covered up, and they're the agitators,
they're the organizers of this, and they need to be
the ones who are who were called to account. I
want these kids in Rhode Island to be called to account.
I do think that what the but the judge, and
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I don't know who the judge was. I know a
lot of the BMC judges, So if I'm criticizing a
friend of mine. I really don't care. Uh. They should
have hit these kids with, you know, fifty thousand dollars
bail and make sure the parents come up and have
to post at least a five thousand dollars bond to
get the kid out, and if they can't do it quickly,
then let them spend the night at Nashville Strait.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I agree. And I think the other thing I just
want to say is I had a friend that was
a police officer that got shot New Year's Ease and it.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Was supposedly a domestic.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Violence call, and afterwards this guy just claimed mental illness.
I think this happens way too much too, you know,
and this could happen with these guys just to get
them off if they have a sleazy lawyer.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, the lawyers are going to do. And I got
to defend the lawyers, okay, because lawyers, they are duty
bound to make the prosecutors to prove beyond a reasonable
doubt all the elements of the crime. And if police
aren't able to identify these kids in court as having
been at the scene and having done whatever, they would
charge with that's the way our system works. However, I
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hope the police grabbed these that these kids actually did
something and they weren't people who were just standing and
glowking at it. I don't think that they would, probably
the organizers, because I the people will come to the
demonstration dressed up in masks to hide their identity and
who have polls that are like ten feet long big.
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They're coming with a purpose, Okay. They don't just happen
to be walking down the street at one point thirty
and say, Hey, I'm so glad I have my ten
foot poll and my guy FOWX mask with me. It's
perfect timing. I now can do whatever I want. No
one's going to be able to see me.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
No'sat it's Jack, and I hope these guys are okay.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, I hope that apparently no police officer injured badly,
But look, you never know. You never know. Every police
officer who leaves his home at any point, he never
knows what he's going to face during that eight hour shift,
or that that longer than eight hour shift. Judy, thanks
so much for call, and hope you continue to call
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my program.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yep, great, thank you, thank you. Thanks for the cops.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Absolutely, uh, we'll take a very quick break coming up
as Rita in Boston. I got phil and Boston, John
and Burlington and I got some room six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. If you live in the South End or
you live and you saw this, I'd love to hear
from you. Uh, if you were in Randolph and and
you were inconvenience by this, probably few people were inconvenience.
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But when this goes down at one thirty in the morning,
it's it's it's you know, it's it's it's one thirty dark. Uh.
And police go into those situations and they're dangerous situations,
and you know they you never know what is there
when you get out of the car and to do
something like this, even if you're like a nineteen or
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twenty year old kid, get a life, get a life,
you know, get a date, you know, get a date,
you know, go go to dinner with some friends, watch
a football game. To be out trying to do donuts
in the middle of an intersection. Uh, what does that prove?
I mean, you probably could make a sports team. So
you gonna think for a moment you're a NASCAR driver.
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I guess you're losers. All of you who are at
this demonstration are nothing but losers. Okay, and those of
you who hang around and are spending your time on
social media to talk to other people, let's call it
as it is. You're nothing but a loser. I guarantee you.
You probably are not getting further education, formal education. You're
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probably never played on a competitive sports team. You probably
are alone. You don't have a boyfriend or a girlfriend
or whatever on a Saturday night Sunday morning. You're losers
with a capital L. And the best that you could
do to think you're doing something of substance is to
join a bunch of other losers and do a meetup
and do some some wheelies in a parking lot. That's
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the best you've got. You're serious, You're serious. You probably
don't have a job, you don't have an education, and
you don't have much in front of you other than
being with you loser friends. Back on night Side after.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
This night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Boston's
news radio, all right, just.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
As I'll continue my rant here on these losers who
are going to these meetups. First of all, if you
think you're a tough guy because you're gonna go to
some sort of a meetup and and spin around in
your car. Okay, if you really think you're a tough
guy joined the military. You couldn't get through basic training
on your best day, so you have no future there.
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You have no future. Academically, you have no future. Simple
as that. The best thing, the most important thing you're
ever going to do is join like a meetup with
some other loser friends. You know, and if some of
you who might be listening and want to defend yourself
and convince me that you're not a total loser like
those two kids who got to rain today. I don't
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know if they what they were doing there. They might
have just been collateral damage and they might have been
picked up because they said something or did something really stupid.
Wouldn't surprise me. But their parents must be really proud
of them tonight. Feel badly for the parents. Let me
go next too. Rita is in Boston. Reader, I appreciate
you holding on. You were next on Nightsiger, right ahead, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I remember a time when if you had done something
with a crime, like a low level crime, you were
given the chance and the opportunity to either go to
the military or I guess that's not available anymore.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Right, Well, I think it.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Can be offered, depending upon the judge. I don't know
if we're nominating judges of that caliber anymore. But seriously,
I mean, when it's one thirty on a Sunday morning, Okay,
do you think any of these losers had a date
on Saturday night? I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Neither do I.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
You know, when I first heard this story, it was
described on Radio one WBZ. I think I heard Sunday
Afternoon this was a vehicle takeover.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, Yeah, it's a takeover by a few cars of
an intersection at one thirty in the morning on a Sunday. Now,
they won't try to do it afternoon.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
This is this is what it was.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
This is what it was described as a vehicle takeover.
And then it was described as out like about one
hundred people and then from Rhode Island. And so I'm
thinking that it was the police department who had pulled
over or taken over these scooters, these motor scooters. They
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did that at one time in Rhode Island, maybe a
year or so ago. That's what I thought this, I
thought the story was until I went on YouTube and
I saw the police cruiser on fire. Yeah, and all
the police down at Nassa IV in Tromoin Street. I
live in the south end, closer to Copley Square then.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Wasn't that far away? Wasn't that far away? Will Larry
called the wrong pointed out that what they did was
they they started, you know, doing their the spins around
the circle. Big men, you know, really tough guys. And
so one police car came through there put the lights
on to disperse them, and that was driven by a
female officer, as I understand that, and she was able
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to get through the intersection. The second cruiser came in
and they blocked the intersection, so the police officer in
that car couldn't exit the intersection, and that was the
car that was attacked. This was all orchestrated. This was
not something that spontaneously happened. This was orchestrated, and they
do it.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
This is why, this is why, like today, it's the
first time I heard that they were that they were
in vehicles, that they were in cars. So they're driving cars.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And they did this about a year ago on Newbury
Street again Sunday morning, early Sunday.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And all they do is they basically the commande of
the intersection. They have cars that block traffic. Look, they should,
you know, they should be arrested. If if if they
ever blocked traffic and there was like a motorcycle gang
coming through, you know, some Hell's Angels or something, they
would they would have got some street justice. They wouldn't
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be blocking the Hell's Angels, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I mean, this is outrageous behavior, and it puts everybody
in in uh in, you know, a crisis situation. Everybody
people lived there, the police, all kinds of everybody, you know,
business people.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
There was one there was one young woman who I
saw interviewed today and she came. There was one woman
who came across very seriously and said, this is ridiculous.
That should not happen in anyone's neighborhood, never mind the
South End. But then there was a younger girl who
was interviewed. It was really cool. I never see so
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many cars. It was really it fireworks.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Can't she doesn't come from it, she doesn't come from Boston.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, I'm sure, but it was like it's like, can
I do a quick i Q test on you, ma'am,
because I mean, if you were if some night you're
in your apartment and some weirdo is trying to break
down your door, you call the police. You want the
police to be there, like ten minutes ago. Uh, and
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if anybody had an emergency during that time of night,
because every police car that from every section in Boston,
I'm sure converged on that place ahead.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
I'm sorry, no, no, no. They call these things meet
up to be called flash mobs. Just the new terminology, the.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
New terminology because this car is involved. A lot of
the flash mobs actually were interesting in that you'd have
like this group of people who all would have musical
capabilities and would would you know, and they would be
really beautiful. They would start singing Christmas carols or something,
and all of a sudden people would step out of
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the crowd and it would be a wonderful rendition. So
that's you get at flash mobs, which are which are
very positive. No, but these are kids. These are kids
in their late teens early twenties who were absolute losers
that have never accomplished anything in their lives, and they
feel it's really cool. Let's all get together and we'll
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take over an intersection somewhere and we'll we'll block off
the cars. Uh and and we'll just spin around and
and and we'll we'll think like we're NASCAR drivers. It'll
be really cool. And the fact that that what the
losers go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I think one thing that we should stop doing is
calling these people kids. They're eighteen and nineteen.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
They can vote, they can get a job, hope not.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I hope not, but me too.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah, however, they can get a job, yeah, they can
do something. They can go to some kind of school
other than reform school.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, I think I think one of the problems is
we don't have any reform schools. I think if we
have some reform schools, these kids, when you think about it,
almost feel they're kind of pathetic creatures in the sense
that it's one thirty at night. First of all, that's
what you're doing at one thirty at night on a
Sunday morning. I mean, give me a break. Is that
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the best you got?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I mean, I know. The other thing is Bradley Jay
on Friday night did a one hour on bike e
bikes and scooters and all that kind of stuff, right,
And that's why when I got to Sunday, I thought
that this was like a.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
No, yeah, no, they've had those where these bikes and stuff. Yeah,
these knuckleheads are trying to drive through the Tip O'Neil
tunnel on e.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Bikes or whatever, and yeah, I mean, you know it's
gonna be a lot of tragedies with these people. I mean,
these scooters are driving through the South End like you
wouldn't believe.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yep, No, I'm very familiar with that. We talked. I
talked earlier tonight a quarter of nine with a fellow
who wrote a piece in the Boston Globe I guess
about ten days ago, and the premise of the piece
was that the motorbikes and the e bikes and the
scooters should be prevented from going into the bike lanes.
My attitude is, I don't want them out in traffic,
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leave them in the bike lanes. And I had sort
of a contentious conversation with a gentleman. I'm going to
have him on hopefully if he agrees to what I'm
not sure. I hope you do, uh later on this
week for an hour. So anyway, Rita, I loved your call.
I hope you continue to call. I know you're a
regular caller, but call the call more often. I loved
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your sense of humor as well. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Okay, Okay, thanks n We're.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Gonna come back. Gotta break news at the bottom of
the era. I got Phill's up next, I got John,
and I got Jack. The only lines open right now
are six one seven. Back on night Side after.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
This, You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
All right, back to the calls you go. I'm gonna
go to Phil in Boston. Phil, welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 7 (19:41):
I gotta give them mister Calderon a lot of credit.
He's one of the best. You can but a couple
of it. Dan, Do you really do you really think
this is gonna get better? Mister call mentioned the family thing,
the silly I mean kids stay. I think I don't
don't want to get off. The sub of a woman
pushed and a sixty three old woman off the bus
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is everywhere you go, the stores, they open the door,
they bang in here. The bottom line is there's gotta
be a where to stop these people. They have these
plates on on the on the on the plate and
some of these souls, but they have these plate covers
that you literally cannot read the plates. And we live
pause a law somewhere in the country where you got
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to be able to read the plates. Okay, they have
tinted windows, Okay, they have stripes on the fancy guys.
They should put some kind of identification and start cracking
down these people. And one, I know it's probably gonna
sound stupid that we if we find somebody that can
find the secret place that these people talk to them
on internet whatever set up set up, set up a sting,
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say yeah, we got a thing down, this thing here,
we'll come down here, twelve we're good girl, whatever, and
everyone to come in. We have stop sticks banged boom
bang banging, and just get them, you know, get a
fuel of them. Anyway, because I said, a poor person,
the police officer, he chops, He's say, if he shot
somebody out of fear for his life, maybe the first
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one demonstrating at his at his court hearing in BMC
for telling somebody because his life isn't her life was
in danger. These these guys, these gentlemen, I don't know,
not all the perfect, but they're a superman or woman.
They're just ready with people trying to do it. The
right thing, most of them, and they have set up
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like this. The car has burned. Wouldn't happen with the
at F. I mean, I mean it would be unbelievable.
I mean it's crazy. I mean it happens to many
two people cutting off the road that were going together.
The cat it's crazy. I mean, it's just and no
one's and they keep riving. I don't see anybody stopping them.
I think they do it because they're not scared. They're
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concerned about keeping their jobs. They don't want to get
pulled over. They don't want to play over because they
might be because they're discriminating against them.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
Because but but I'll tell you this is and this
they better move on this thing more quickly because exactly
one kid getting and the fact that they are the
judge bail of.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
A thousand or five hundred dollars, I mean that's nothing,
that's not you know. And so I mean, whoever the
judge was, I'm desperately trying to find out who that
judge was to give them a little bit of publicity.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Here were these guys with they spin around and end
up in the front ports. You know, still quickly he
changed his mind. You know, but no, it's just there.
They were from mopeds to eat bikes. Uh, now we'll
get the cows going. And I know what I do
with this some kids, taco do you have races? You
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just have races behind on the side streets. But I
was getting out of hand. I mean, it's gonna be
a way to document these kinds of situations.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, they got they hopefully have some video. Maybe there's
people in the South End. They got some license plate numbers.
The bottom line is that this this group. The main
thing that I want to say is these these kids,
when you realize that that is what they're doing, losers.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
They put it on YouTube if ibably make money, and
I don't know, but I mean it's not going to change.
It's gonna get worse. It's gonna get worse. They get,
they get in coverage. You know how how these guys talk,
Oh we brought that police guy down, Oh we did that.
They're proud of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Then it's cool, kidding, no kidding, And it certainly look
the police do a great job in Boston. The mayor
wants the world to think that Boston doesn't have problems,
and she seemed to be pretty upset today when I
watched her and the police commissioner on television. But if
you don't, if you don't stop this quickly, it's going
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to happen more often, and that's going to be a problem.
All Right, Philip, I appreciate your frustration. I hear it
in your voice. Thank you so much. All right, Pal,
talk to you soon. Let me go to John and Burlington.
I'm assuming Burlington, Massachusetts. Hi, John, how are you good?
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (24:12):
Good?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Good?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
This this when I hear about this stuff, I'm alarmed.
I've seen these roving bands of mopeds around the city.
I see him up in the northern suburb up and Lowell,
and uh, I've got zero tolerance for it. But Dan,
there's common sense ways to approach this. And for one,
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I was in I was driving through Lowell on Sunday
and I saw like a twenty year old guy on
a big like e bike or whatever might have might have.
It looked like an e bike and it behave like
a motorcycle, but pretty tall bike. And he was doing
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he was wheeling for like one hundred yards. Yeah, okay,
now that that puts everyone at danger. He's putting himself
in danger. But that's an act, Dan, for which there
should be zero tolerance. That's the seed that's at four o'clock.
That kid is probably part of whoever that does it
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late night.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And so he's basically he's basically popping a wheelie, as
they would say, yeah, back tire, okay, I got it.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Yeah yeah, But he was doing like the old days, right,
But he was doing it like practice for something that
a group does. You know, but broken windows theory, Dan,
you you nip it in the butt. You you pull
him over right away at four o'clock. He doesn't join
the roving band on Saturday night at midnight. You snuff
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it out.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well, you do in a situation like that as your
confidence ate the bike? Yeah, let him walk home, Let
him walk home. You know, you got to get a
little aggressive here. I mean now, I'm sure the ACLU
will come in and say, well, you haven't proven his
guilt and therefore you can't confiscate his bike. But I
think I think you can write some statutes like that
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that that make it perfectly acceptable for someone to act
on a road. It would be as if you took
your car and you were just doing like three sixty
spins in the road for the fun of it, confiscate
the person's car. Absolutely, absolutely, put the you can't put
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the public in danger or never mind the police.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
This has to be made taboo by everyone, just like
if you saw a swerving car anytime of day, you'd
call it in. Sure, the public has to act and
the police have to act on it. I have a
I love the police force everywhere I've lived, but I
have a problem Dan with when you call something in
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that you observe if there's a laziness by dispatch about
the wheelie guy about a mini bike at three o'clock
on a Saturday in a suburb of our cities, where
the dispatch or the officer answering, pooh poos what you're
calling in about. It's broken windows, Dan. You catch the
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small fish to prevent the bigger fish. You catch the
shoplifter to prevent the arm robber. But in New York
and in Boston and in Massachusetts, I have since in
the last several years, when you call these things in, Dan,
they tend to downplay the oomph of your call, which
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is bull you're calling to catch something in the bud.
They catch that person with no driver, no plate on
the back, of the mini bike, they get the same
kid off the street at night. People have to understand
you have to be a car. But this is common sense.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
John. I'm on my break. I'm up to my break,
so I got to let you go. But do me
a favor. I like your your theories and let's see
if people react to them, because I think you're absolutely correct.
If this stuff gets ignored, if these two kids, who
I think are not due back in court I think
until sometime next month, if they continue it without a
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finding for six months, which is the likely disposition, that
sends a message. This is more than just some kid
who you know. And they caught some kids smoking weed
behind a building. That's that's a mistake. You know that
they got They got the kid on but it didn't
affect anybody. But when you start doing this sort of stuff,
it affects a lot of people. It affects a lot
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of people. And one of the candidates for govern her
in Joan Bnaki's column, which I think will be in
the Globe tomorrow, Brian Shortsleeve wrote on x these attacks
on the police are unacceptable. We need strong leadership that
will support our police and stop the escalation of violence.
This is not a time for the governor to be
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Mia Mike Kannely, the other Republican running for governors, said.
Kanneely referenced a remark Heally made in twenty twenty when
she said America is burning, but that's how forest grow.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
Oh god.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Healley later said she regretted the comment, but Conneely said
since then she and Michelle will have shown no interest
in public safety. If you think stopping violence like this
is important, vote for me, meaning Kanneely in twenty twenty six.
So this is going to be part of the political
campaign as well.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
I know who I'm voting for.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'm guessing it's one of the Republicans. Okay, of course,
thank you, John. I appreciate your phone call. Have a
great night. Okay, got a couple of lines open here
six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty and got
one line at six one seven, nine three one, ten thirty.
I'm going to stop this conversation at eleven, and we're
going to switch topics and we're going to talk about
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at eleven about a Harvard Law School professor, a visiting
Harvard Law School professor. You know, you don't have to
be really necessarily smart to teach at Harvard Law School,
although there are a lot of people over there who
I know who are very smart. This one, Professor Carlos
Portugal govea. Do you hear this story? But if you
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want to get in on this, if you want to
support the police, and if you want to call into
question why we know if we don't stop it. It
is the broken windows theory, It really is. It's the
same thing. If this is allowed to continue here in Boston,
on another neighborhood, on another weekend, it's only going to
lead to more. Back on night side six one seven, two, five,
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four ten thirty, six one seven, nine three one tenth
or if you want to get a final word in,
you can call right now. I'll get you in six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty or six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
We've done almost two hours in this. Let's finish strong.
Coming back right after.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
This, it's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on w B
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Here we go, I'm gonna get three in. Let me
start with Jack and Newton. Jack, welcome back, how are
you sir?
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Yeah? I got for I Actually I wish I could
comment on that to tell it should Brookline because I
know the synagogue and the rabbi, and I think he
was saying he should have had rats.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well, we're gonna go in, We're gonna get into that.
He's a Harvard Law School professor. Uh, he's out, according
to him, shooting with a bb gun at Rats.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
He said he didn't know it was Yab Kapor and
he didn't know he was living next door to a synagogue.
Harvard Law School professor. Can't figure that one out. I
don't know. And apparently when a security guard approached him,
he got into a little bit of a tussle with
the security guard and tried to flee. So there's a
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lot more to this that bothers me. And uh, you know,
anyone who's shooting a rifle in Brookline next to a synagogue.
Synagogues are pretty well known. Jack As, I don't need
to tell you that.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
It's not that easy. It's up on a hill and
I'm not quite sure exactly where. I know that's very
very well. I don't know exactly he.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Lives next door to with Jack Jack Jack. You know, again,
if I'd rather not open that one up now, But
he lives next door to it. I mean, he's a
Harvard Law School professor, Jack.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
But those are apartments next door to.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Look around when you I would say to the guy, Hey,
when you're in the neighborhood, look around. Why don't you
see what's around anyway? Whatever, go ahead, Jack, quick comment
if you would on what you I think you called
on and then I got to keep moving ahead.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
Well, you know, being a sociologist, it kind of reminds
me of a restaurant owner. Mario Bookabella and I we
have the same problem, you know, in Newton Highlands thirty
years ago. I don't people are going to think I'm
a bleeding heart liberal, but it was basically they were
just bored in the Highlands, and so we we got
them to hang out, you know, in the Brigham House
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and played pool. I don't know, this might be different,
but there's not a lot of recreation. I know your
audience is going to say I had another bleeding heart liberal.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I think they probably will, Jack, if they're if there,
if it was in your neighborhood of my neighborhood, I
don't know that you and I would be as dollar
as what I tried to say. You're a better person
than me. Jack. I've told you that many times, and
you've proven it once again tonight.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I know.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Okay, I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Then fair enough.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
I look for your for the Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Next time I'm sending the next time I see them,
I'm sending them over to your place. Only getting January
a good one, thanks Jack. Okay, let me get two
more in here real quickly. Karen from Lemonster, Karen, you're
called late. Thank you very much. You're next one night, Sack.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
I just want to say I was shocked when I heard.
I don't live in the Boston area. I live in Leminster,
and I was shocked when I heard about the what
happened to the policeman and what happened to you know,
all the things that happened, I said. I was just
so shocked about it, and I thought, don't these people
have something better to do?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
They don't. They don't. They're losers.
Speaker 10 (34:40):
What they need beating up? I mean, no, these kids,
they have other things.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
The Karen, they obviously don't. I mean, you know, if so,
it's it's one thirty on a Saturday morning, it's maybe
on a Sunday morning, excuse me, it might be time
to go home and you know, sleep in so you
can get up the next day. They probably don't have
a job, They probably don't have a girlfriend or a boyfriend.
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They probably are losers with a capital L.
Speaker 10 (35:11):
Well. I hope, I hope they are consequences for what
they've done, because they have to be.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You know. I'm with you, Karen, I'm with you. And
there are people who have trouble sleeping at night. There
are people who little kids, and the kids wake up
and they get scared. These people are losers for a
number of reasons. One, they've never accomplished anything in their lives.
They they have no great prospects, and their idea of
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a good time is doing you know, some sort of
donuts in an intersection and making noise at one thirty
in the morning and disturbing other people. You got it.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
That's it's not good.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
That's why they're losers. They're total losers. And I hope
they're listening tonight because because I want them to know
that's what they are. They they may not realize it
until someone has the guts to tell them that, Okay,
they probably have been have been been treated with kid gloves,
and it's time for them to grow up. Caroen, I
want to get one more in real quickly. Thanks so
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much for calling. If you call very much. I haven't
heard from you lately. Come on back soon. Okay, don't
be a stranger. Okay, sure, Thanks Karen, I talk to
you good night. Let me go to Michael and Aliborough.
Michael're gonna close up the R Force, Go right ahead, Michael.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Hey Dan, how are you? I'm gonna go tell you
when when I saw that cop car on fire, I
was almost desensitized. I'm thinking to myself, that's Boston. But
I'm thinking it reminds me of when the George Floyd
thing happened or anything like that. Not necessarily just George Floyd.
(36:45):
But I do have a question. Sure, tinted windows. I
know they can't tint the front one, but what about
the first two? Those are tinted. They tint the back
over their license plate. But when you get a stick
now it's all it's all recorded on film. Wow, get
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away with this stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Well, you know what happens is you, you and I
go and we get our stickers and we do it legitimately,
and a lot of other people do it a little
underhandedly and Unfortunately, if if if you and I were
going to be abut, you know, breaking the law and
doing crazy things at one thirty in the morning, we
probably would be able to figure out how to get
a sticker even though the windows are tinted. It's just
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the way of the world, right, Yeah, Michael, great points.
I'm glad you called. You made you made your points
in quick in quick order, and I appreciate it. Call
more often and call earlier so we can have some conversations.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Okay, I will, I will see later.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Thank you, Bell. I have a great night to those
who are calling. Let Cornelia stick around for the for
the eleven o'clock hour, we're going to change talk topics
and talk about this Harvard Law School professor who doesn't
realize he's living next with us in Agard but decides
to shoot a gun at nine o'clock at night because
he's outshooting rats. I don't know too many Harvard Law
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School professors who even know what a gun is, never
mind outshooting rats. But we'll say we'll talk about it
on the other side.
As night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
By the way, two quick things, I will talk later.
I want to continue this conversation into in this new
hour here if you've just joined us. We're talking about
these car meetups where kids at two o'clock in the
morning meet up take over an intersection and it turned
into pandemonium at the intersection of Tremont Street and Mass
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Avenue on Sunday morning about one point thirty. It was
a Boston police cruiser which was destroyed. Two knuckleheads from
Rhode Island were arragined today on a variety of charges,
including assault on police officers, an eighteen year old from Cumberland,
Rhode Island and a nineteen year old from Woolwick, Rhode Island.
(00:49):
As they said, I'm sure they were like on their
way to the early morning mass somewhere else on MENSA
meeting and they got caught up in this. That will
be their plea in court. I'm sure we'll talk about
that as time goes on. But I want to hear
from as many of you as possible. If you don't
think this stuff can get out of control. I'll just
mention one thing real quickly. Can you imagine if someone
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had a heart attack or someone was hit in an
intersection when all the police were drawn to this officer
in trouble call and it's really an officer in trouble
and it's made up. I mean the police officer was
surrounded in the vehicle and who was being assaulted by
sticks and fireworks, etc. In the car eventually caught on fire,
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and I suspected there was someone on a mini Molotov cocktail.
I don't think a fire cracker bursting or a sparkler
would light a police car on fire. So this is
serious stuff, not only for the people who were there,
the people in the South End who enjoy some peace
and quietude when Saturday evening ends, but in any other
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portion of the city because police units at that hour
of the night fully staffed for a daytime shift. And
I didn't get into that with Larry called Rome. But
there could be someone who could be injured badly, or
there could be someone who's calling because someone's breaking into
their apartment. That's the secondary victims here as well as
the police. I do want to say that I want
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to thank Bradley Jay who sat in for me on
Friday night. He didn't get a chance to mention that
off the top of the at the top of the
show at eight o'clock. And also I had a great
event on Friday night with some former colleagues from WBZ
in the nineteen eighties, and maybe we'll talk about that
a little bit later. But I want to get right
to the calls. I don't want to tie people up.
We'll take him in order. I'm going to go next
to Judy in Boston. Judy, I appreciate your calling in.
(02:42):
I think this is a very serious topic and the
city needs to get ahead of this and get ahead
of it quickly.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I think absolutely just happens. I love, love, love police officers.
I grew up with them all around me. I can
remember them on the Kana and they'd always help us,
or they tell us to get home because we're packing up.
The other thing is, I think these kids are criminals.
I don't know why they were even allowed out on bill.
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The bill was ridiculous. I also think the only reason
you put a cruiser on fire is to kill them
or to injure them so bad, and it was just
a disgrace. And I just think they're from Rhode Island.
I think this whole thing is a disgrace. I think
a couple of years ago there was police cause on
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fired down by all the stores on Newbury Street when
they were all damage. But I think there's a struggle
of people going into the police department because they know
this stuff doesn't I mean, this stuff happens. So I'm
really sorry. But thank you to all the police.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, Judy, I appreciate very much. I appreciate you call them,
and I think that there are police officers who are
listening and who need to hear that. Again. I was
concerned that there could have been you know, there could
be a child that is having it is choking or something,
and the police officer who might be somewhere in Hyde
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Park or West Roxbury, or Roxbury or Charlestown or South Boston,
who ordinarily might be two blocks away and could respond
to a call for help if they're involved in an
unnecessary street demonstration. At one point thirty two o'clock on
a Sunday morning in the South End, when the call
officer in trouble comes in, every police officer is duty
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bound to get there and try to help that police officer.
But this could have dire consequences for you know, someone
who's suffering a heart attack, as they say, someone who
is trying to get out of a bad domestic situation
at one thirty in the morning. You got to think
about it. And these kids aren't thinking about anything other
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than raising hell and in some cases trying to stir
up I'm sure that these kids who got arrested, they
didn't look to me like they were the ring leaders.
I'm sure they were knuckleheads and they probably did something
really stupid and were so stupid they got caught. The
kids were there in the masks, which do you know
when I sent when I referenced the guy Fox mask,
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they're like these masks where the faces distorted and they're
pretty scary. I mean, if someone walking down the street
and they're they're they're covered up, and they're the agitators,
they're the organizers of this, and they need to be
the ones who are who were called to account. I
want these kids in Rhode Island to be called to account.
I do think that what the but the judge, and
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I don't know who the judge was. I know a
lot of the BMC judges, So if I'm criticizing a
friend of mine. I really don't care. Uh. They should
have hit these kids with, you know, fifty thousand dollars
bail and make sure the parents come up and have
to post at least a five thousand dollars bond to
get the kid out, and if they can't do it quickly,
then let them spend the night at Nashville Strait.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I agree. And I think the other thing I just
want to say is I had a friend that was
a police officer that got shot New Year's Ease and it.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Was supposedly a domestic.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Violence call, and afterwards this guy just claimed mental illness.
I think this happens way too much too, you know,
and this could happen with these guys just to get
them off if they have a sleazy lawyer.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, the lawyers are going to do. And I got
to defend the lawyers, okay, because lawyers, they are duty
bound to make the prosecutors to prove beyond a reasonable
doubt all the elements of the crime. And if police
aren't able to identify these kids in court as having
been at the scene and having done whatever, they would
charge with that's the way our system works. However, I
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hope the police grabbed these that these kids actually did
something and they weren't people who were just standing and
glowking at it. I don't think that they would, probably
the organizers, because I the people will come to the
demonstration dressed up in masks to hide their identity and
who have polls that are like ten feet long big.
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They're coming with a purpose, Okay. They don't just happen
to be walking down the street at one point thirty
and say, Hey, I'm so glad I have my ten
foot poll and my guy FOWX mask with me. It's
perfect timing. I now can do whatever I want. No
one's going to be able to see me.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
No'sat it's Jack, and I hope these guys are okay.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, I hope that apparently no police officer injured badly,
But look, you never know. You never know. Every police
officer who leaves his home at any point, he never
knows what he's going to face during that eight hour shift,
or that that longer than eight hour shift. Judy, thanks
so much for call, and hope you continue to call
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my program.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yep, great, thank you, thank you. Thanks for the cops.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Absolutely, uh, we'll take a very quick break coming up
as Rita in Boston. I got phil and Boston, John
and Burlington and I got some room six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. If you live in the South End or
you live and you saw this, I'd love to hear
from you. Uh, if you were in Randolph and and
you were inconvenience by this, probably few people were inconvenience.
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But when this goes down at one thirty in the morning,
it's it's it's you know, it's it's it's one thirty dark. Uh.
And police go into those situations and they're dangerous situations,
and you know they you never know what is there
when you get out of the car and to do
something like this, even if you're like a nineteen or
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twenty year old kid, get a life, get a life,
you know, get a date, you know, get a date,
you know, go go to dinner with some friends, watch
a football game. To be out trying to do donuts
in the middle of an intersection. Uh, what does that prove?
I mean, you probably could make a sports team. So
you gonna think for a moment you're a NASCAR driver.
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I guess you're losers. All of you who are at
this demonstration are nothing but losers. Okay, and those of
you who hang around and are spending your time on
social media to talk to other people, let's call it
as it is. You're nothing but a loser. I guarantee you.
You probably are not getting further education, formal education. You're
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probably never played on a competitive sports team. You probably
are alone. You don't have a boyfriend or a girlfriend
or whatever on a Saturday night Sunday morning. You're losers
with a capital L. And the best that you could
do to think you're doing something of substance is to
join a bunch of other losers and do a meetup
and do some some wheelies in a parking lot. That's
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the best you've got. You're serious, You're serious. You probably
don't have a job, you don't have an education, and
you don't have much in front of you other than
being with you loser friends. Back on night Side after.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
This night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Boston's
news radio, all right, just.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
As I'll continue my rant here on these losers who
are going to these meetups. First of all, if you
think you're a tough guy because you're gonna go to
some sort of a meetup and and spin around in
your car. Okay, if you really think you're a tough
guy joined the military. You couldn't get through basic training
on your best day, so you have no future there.
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You have no future. Academically, you have no future. Simple
as that. The best thing, the most important thing you're
ever going to do is join like a meetup with
some other loser friends. You know, and if some of
you who might be listening and want to defend yourself
and convince me that you're not a total loser like
those two kids who got to rain today. I don't
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know if they what they were doing there. They might
have just been collateral damage and they might have been
picked up because they said something or did something really stupid.
Wouldn't surprise me. But their parents must be really proud
of them tonight. Feel badly for the parents. Let me
go next too. Rita is in Boston. Reader, I appreciate
you holding on. You were next on Nightsiger, right ahead, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I remember a time when if you had done something
with a crime, like a low level crime, you were
given the chance and the opportunity to either go to
the military or I guess that's not available anymore.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Right, Well, I think it.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Can be offered, depending upon the judge. I don't know
if we're nominating judges of that caliber anymore. But seriously,
I mean, when it's one thirty on a Sunday morning, Okay,
do you think any of these losers had a date
on Saturday night? I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Neither do I.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
You know, when I first heard this story, it was
described on Radio one WBZ. I think I heard Sunday
Afternoon this was a vehicle takeover.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, Yeah, it's a takeover by a few cars of
an intersection at one thirty in the morning on a Sunday. Now,
they won't try to do it afternoon.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
This is this is what it was.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
This is what it was described as a vehicle takeover.
And then it was described as out like about one
hundred people and then from Rhode Island. And so I'm
thinking that it was the police department who had pulled
over or taken over these scooters, these motor scooters. They
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did that at one time in Rhode Island, maybe a
year or so ago. That's what I thought this, I
thought the story was until I went on YouTube and
I saw the police cruiser on fire. Yeah, and all
the police down at Nassa IV in Tromoin Street. I
live in the south end, closer to Copley Square then.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Wasn't that far away? Wasn't that far away? Will Larry
called the wrong pointed out that what they did was
they they started, you know, doing their the spins around
the circle. Big men, you know, really tough guys. And
so one police car came through there put the lights
on to disperse them, and that was driven by a
female officer, as I understand that, and she was able
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to get through the intersection. The second cruiser came in
and they blocked the intersection, so the police officer in
that car couldn't exit the intersection, and that was the
car that was attacked. This was all orchestrated. This was
not something that spontaneously happened. This was orchestrated, and they
do it.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
This is why, this is why, like today, it's the
first time I heard that they were that they were
in vehicles, that they were in cars. So they're driving cars.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And they did this about a year ago on Newbury
Street again Sunday morning, early Sunday.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And all they do is they basically the commande of
the intersection. They have cars that block traffic. Look, they should,
you know, they should be arrested. If if if they
ever blocked traffic and there was like a motorcycle gang
coming through, you know, some Hell's Angels or something, they
would they would have got some street justice. They wouldn't
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be blocking the Hell's Angels, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I mean, this is outrageous behavior, and it puts everybody
in in uh in, you know, a crisis situation. Everybody
people lived there, the police, all kinds of everybody, you know,
business people.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
There was one there was one young woman who I
saw interviewed today and she came. There was one woman
who came across very seriously and said, this is ridiculous.
That should not happen in anyone's neighborhood, never mind the
South End. But then there was a younger girl who
was interviewed. It was really cool. I never see so
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many cars. It was really it fireworks.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Can't she doesn't come from it, she doesn't come from Boston.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, I'm sure, but it was like it's like, can
I do a quick i Q test on you, ma'am,
because I mean, if you were if some night you're
in your apartment and some weirdo is trying to break
down your door, you call the police. You want the
police to be there, like ten minutes ago. Uh, and
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if anybody had an emergency during that time of night,
because every police car that from every section in Boston,
I'm sure converged on that place ahead.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
I'm sorry, no, no, no. They call these things meet
up to be called flash mobs. Just the new terminology, the.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
New terminology because this car is involved. A lot of
the flash mobs actually were interesting in that you'd have
like this group of people who all would have musical
capabilities and would would you know, and they would be
really beautiful. They would start singing Christmas carols or something,
and all of a sudden people would step out of
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the crowd and it would be a wonderful rendition. So
that's you get at flash mobs, which are which are
very positive. No, but these are kids. These are kids
in their late teens early twenties who were absolute losers
that have never accomplished anything in their lives, and they
feel it's really cool. Let's all get together and we'll
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take over an intersection somewhere and we'll we'll block off
the cars. Uh and and we'll just spin around and
and and we'll we'll think like we're NASCAR drivers. It'll
be really cool. And the fact that that what the
losers go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I think one thing that we should stop doing is
calling these people kids. They're eighteen and nineteen.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
They can vote, they can get a job, hope not.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I hope not, but me too.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah, however, they can get a job, yeah, they can
do something. They can go to some kind of school
other than reform school.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, I think I think one of the problems is
we don't have any reform schools. I think if we
have some reform schools, these kids, when you think about it,
almost feel they're kind of pathetic creatures in the sense
that it's one thirty at night. First of all, that's
what you're doing at one thirty at night on a
Sunday morning. I mean, give me a break. Is that
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the best you got?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I mean, I know. The other thing is Bradley Jay
on Friday night did a one hour on bike e
bikes and scooters and all that kind of stuff, right,
And that's why when I got to Sunday, I thought
that this was like a.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
No, yeah, no, they've had those where these bikes and stuff. Yeah,
these knuckleheads are trying to drive through the Tip O'Neil
tunnel on e.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Bikes or whatever, and yeah, I mean, you know it's
gonna be a lot of tragedies with these people. I mean,
these scooters are driving through the South End like you
wouldn't believe.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yep, No, I'm very familiar with that. We talked. I
talked earlier tonight a quarter of nine with a fellow
who wrote a piece in the Boston Globe I guess
about ten days ago, and the premise of the piece
was that the motorbikes and the e bikes and the
scooters should be prevented from going into the bike lanes.
My attitude is, I don't want them out in traffic,
(18:49):
leave them in the bike lanes. And I had sort
of a contentious conversation with a gentleman. I'm going to
have him on hopefully if he agrees to what I'm
not sure. I hope you do, uh later on this
week for an hour. So anyway, Rita, I loved your call.
I hope you continue to call. I know you're a
regular caller, but call the call more often. I loved
(19:09):
your sense of humor as well. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Okay, Okay, thanks n We're.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Gonna come back. Gotta break news at the bottom of
the era. I got Phill's up next, I got John,
and I got Jack. The only lines open right now
are six one seven. Back on night Side after.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
This, You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
All right, back to the calls you go. I'm gonna
go to Phil in Boston. Phil, welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 7 (19:41):
I gotta give them mister Calderon a lot of credit.
He's one of the best. You can but a couple
of it. Dan, Do you really do you really think
this is gonna get better? Mister call mentioned the family thing,
the silly I mean kids stay. I think I don't
don't want to get off. The sub of a woman
pushed and a sixty three old woman off the bus
(20:02):
is everywhere you go, the stores, they open the door,
they bang in here. The bottom line is there's gotta
be a where to stop these people. They have these
plates on on the on the on the plate and
some of these souls, but they have these plate covers
that you literally cannot read the plates. And we live
pause a law somewhere in the country where you got
(20:22):
to be able to read the plates. Okay, they have
tinted windows, Okay, they have stripes on the fancy guys.
They should put some kind of identification and start cracking
down these people. And one, I know it's probably gonna
sound stupid that we if we find somebody that can
find the secret place that these people talk to them
on internet whatever set up set up, set up a sting,
(20:44):
say yeah, we got a thing down, this thing here,
we'll come down here, twelve we're good girl, whatever, and
everyone to come in. We have stop sticks banged boom
bang banging, and just get them, you know, get a
fuel of them. Anyway, because I said, a poor person,
the police officer, he chops, He's say, if he shot
somebody out of fear for his life, maybe the first
(21:04):
one demonstrating at his at his court hearing in BMC
for telling somebody because his life isn't her life was
in danger. These these guys, these gentlemen, I don't know,
not all the perfect, but they're a superman or woman.
They're just ready with people trying to do it. The
right thing, most of them, and they have set up
(21:24):
like this. The car has burned. Wouldn't happen with the
at F. I mean, I mean it would be unbelievable.
I mean it's crazy. I mean it happens to many
two people cutting off the road that were going together.
The cat it's crazy. I mean, it's just and no
one's and they keep riving. I don't see anybody stopping them.
I think they do it because they're not scared. They're
(21:46):
concerned about keeping their jobs. They don't want to get
pulled over. They don't want to play over because they
might be because they're discriminating against them.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
Because but but I'll tell you this is and this
they better move on this thing more quickly because exactly
one kid getting and the fact that they are the
judge bail of.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
A thousand or five hundred dollars, I mean that's nothing,
that's not you know. And so I mean, whoever the
judge was, I'm desperately trying to find out who that
judge was to give them a little bit of publicity.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Here were these guys with they spin around and end
up in the front ports. You know, still quickly he
changed his mind. You know, but no, it's just there.
They were from mopeds to eat bikes. Uh, now we'll
get the cows going. And I know what I do
with this some kids, taco do you have races? You
(22:47):
just have races behind on the side streets. But I
was getting out of hand. I mean, it's gonna be
a way to document these kinds of situations.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, they got they hopefully have some video. Maybe there's
people in the South End. They got some license plate numbers.
The bottom line is that this this group. The main
thing that I want to say is these these kids,
when you realize that that is what they're doing, losers.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
They put it on YouTube if ibably make money, and
I don't know, but I mean it's not going to change.
It's gonna get worse. It's gonna get worse. They get,
they get in coverage. You know how how these guys talk,
Oh we brought that police guy down, Oh we did that.
They're proud of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Then it's cool, kidding, no kidding, And it certainly look
the police do a great job in Boston. The mayor
wants the world to think that Boston doesn't have problems,
and she seemed to be pretty upset today when I
watched her and the police commissioner on television. But if
you don't, if you don't stop this quickly, it's going
(23:56):
to happen more often, and that's going to be a problem.
All Right, Philip, I appreciate your frustration. I hear it
in your voice. Thank you so much. All right, Pal,
talk to you soon. Let me go to John and Burlington.
I'm assuming Burlington, Massachusetts. Hi, John, how are you good?
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (24:12):
Good?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Good?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
This this when I hear about this stuff, I'm alarmed.
I've seen these roving bands of mopeds around the city.
I see him up in the northern suburb up and Lowell,
and uh, I've got zero tolerance for it. But Dan,
there's common sense ways to approach this. And for one,
(24:37):
I was in I was driving through Lowell on Sunday
and I saw like a twenty year old guy on
a big like e bike or whatever might have might have.
It looked like an e bike and it behave like
a motorcycle, but pretty tall bike. And he was doing
(24:58):
he was wheeling for like one hundred yards. Yeah, okay,
now that that puts everyone at danger. He's putting himself
in danger. But that's an act, Dan, for which there
should be zero tolerance. That's the seed that's at four o'clock.
That kid is probably part of whoever that does it
(25:20):
late night.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And so he's basically he's basically popping a wheelie, as
they would say, yeah, back tire, okay, I got it.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Yeah yeah, But he was doing like the old days, right,
But he was doing it like practice for something that
a group does. You know, but broken windows theory, Dan,
you you nip it in the butt. You you pull
him over right away at four o'clock. He doesn't join
the roving band on Saturday night at midnight. You snuff
(25:55):
it out.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well, you do in a situation like that as your
confidence ate the bike? Yeah, let him walk home, Let
him walk home. You know, you got to get a
little aggressive here. I mean now, I'm sure the ACLU
will come in and say, well, you haven't proven his
guilt and therefore you can't confiscate his bike. But I
think I think you can write some statutes like that
(26:20):
that that make it perfectly acceptable for someone to act
on a road. It would be as if you took
your car and you were just doing like three sixty
spins in the road for the fun of it, confiscate
the person's car. Absolutely, absolutely, put the you can't put
(26:40):
the public in danger or never mind the police.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
This has to be made taboo by everyone, just like
if you saw a swerving car anytime of day, you'd
call it in. Sure, the public has to act and
the police have to act on it. I have a
I love the police force everywhere I've lived, but I
have a problem Dan with when you call something in
(27:06):
that you observe if there's a laziness by dispatch about
the wheelie guy about a mini bike at three o'clock
on a Saturday in a suburb of our cities, where
the dispatch or the officer answering, pooh poos what you're
calling in about. It's broken windows, Dan. You catch the
(27:28):
small fish to prevent the bigger fish. You catch the
shoplifter to prevent the arm robber. But in New York
and in Boston and in Massachusetts, I have since in
the last several years, when you call these things in, Dan,
they tend to downplay the oomph of your call, which
(27:51):
is bull you're calling to catch something in the bud.
They catch that person with no driver, no plate on
the back, of the mini bike, they get the same
kid off the street at night. People have to understand
you have to be a car. But this is common sense.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
John. I'm on my break. I'm up to my break,
so I got to let you go. But do me
a favor. I like your your theories and let's see
if people react to them, because I think you're absolutely correct.
If this stuff gets ignored, if these two kids, who
I think are not due back in court I think
until sometime next month, if they continue it without a
(28:34):
finding for six months, which is the likely disposition, that
sends a message. This is more than just some kid
who you know. And they caught some kids smoking weed
behind a building. That's that's a mistake. You know that
they got They got the kid on but it didn't
affect anybody. But when you start doing this sort of stuff,
it affects a lot of people. It affects a lot
(28:55):
of people. And one of the candidates for govern her
in Joan Bnaki's column, which I think will be in
the Globe tomorrow, Brian Shortsleeve wrote on x these attacks
on the police are unacceptable. We need strong leadership that
will support our police and stop the escalation of violence.
This is not a time for the governor to be
(29:15):
Mia Mike Kannely, the other Republican running for governors, said.
Kanneely referenced a remark Heally made in twenty twenty when
she said America is burning, but that's how forest grow.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
Oh god.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Healley later said she regretted the comment, but Conneely said
since then she and Michelle will have shown no interest
in public safety. If you think stopping violence like this
is important, vote for me, meaning Kanneely in twenty twenty six.
So this is going to be part of the political
campaign as well.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
I know who I'm voting for.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'm guessing it's one of the Republicans. Okay, of course,
thank you, John. I appreciate your phone call. Have a
great night. Okay, got a couple of lines open here
six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty and got
one line at six one seven, nine three one, ten thirty.
I'm going to stop this conversation at eleven, and we're
going to switch topics and we're going to talk about
(30:13):
at eleven about a Harvard Law School professor, a visiting
Harvard Law School professor. You know, you don't have to
be really necessarily smart to teach at Harvard Law School,
although there are a lot of people over there who
I know who are very smart. This one, Professor Carlos
Portugal govea. Do you hear this story? But if you
(30:39):
want to get in on this, if you want to
support the police, and if you want to call into
question why we know if we don't stop it. It
is the broken windows theory, It really is. It's the
same thing. If this is allowed to continue here in Boston,
on another neighborhood, on another weekend, it's only going to
lead to more. Back on night side six one seven, two, five,
(31:02):
four ten thirty, six one seven, nine three one tenth
or if you want to get a final word in,
you can call right now. I'll get you in six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty or six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
We've done almost two hours in this. Let's finish strong.
Coming back right after.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
This, it's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on w B
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Here we go, I'm gonna get three in. Let me
start with Jack and Newton. Jack, welcome back, how are
you sir?
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Yeah? I got for I Actually I wish I could
comment on that to tell it should Brookline because I
know the synagogue and the rabbi, and I think he
was saying he should have had rats.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well, we're gonna go in, We're gonna get into that.
He's a Harvard Law School professor. Uh, he's out, according
to him, shooting with a bb gun at Rats.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
He said he didn't know it was Yab Kapor and
he didn't know he was living next door to a synagogue.
Harvard Law School professor. Can't figure that one out. I
don't know. And apparently when a security guard approached him,
he got into a little bit of a tussle with
the security guard and tried to flee. So there's a
(32:12):
lot more to this that bothers me. And uh, you know,
anyone who's shooting a rifle in Brookline next to a synagogue.
Synagogues are pretty well known. Jack As, I don't need
to tell you that.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
It's not that easy. It's up on a hill and
I'm not quite sure exactly where. I know that's very
very well. I don't know exactly he.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Lives next door to with Jack Jack Jack. You know, again,
if I'd rather not open that one up now, But
he lives next door to it. I mean, he's a
Harvard Law School professor, Jack.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
But those are apartments next door to.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Look around when you I would say to the guy, Hey,
when you're in the neighborhood, look around. Why don't you
see what's around anyway? Whatever, go ahead, Jack, quick comment
if you would on what you I think you called
on and then I got to keep moving ahead.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
Well, you know, being a sociologist, it kind of reminds
me of a restaurant owner. Mario Bookabella and I we
have the same problem, you know, in Newton Highlands thirty
years ago. I don't people are going to think I'm
a bleeding heart liberal, but it was basically they were
just bored in the Highlands, and so we we got
them to hang out, you know, in the Brigham House
(33:28):
and played pool. I don't know, this might be different,
but there's not a lot of recreation. I know your
audience is going to say I had another bleeding heart liberal.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I think they probably will, Jack, if they're if there,
if it was in your neighborhood of my neighborhood, I
don't know that you and I would be as dollar
as what I tried to say. You're a better person
than me. Jack. I've told you that many times, and
you've proven it once again tonight.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I know.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Okay, I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Then fair enough.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
I look for your for the Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Next time I'm sending the next time I see them,
I'm sending them over to your place. Only getting January
a good one, thanks Jack. Okay, let me get two
more in here real quickly. Karen from Lemonster, Karen, you're
called late. Thank you very much. You're next one night, Sack.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
I just want to say I was shocked when I heard.
I don't live in the Boston area. I live in Leminster,
and I was shocked when I heard about the what
happened to the policeman and what happened to you know,
all the things that happened, I said. I was just
so shocked about it, and I thought, don't these people
have something better to do?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
They don't. They don't. They're losers.
Speaker 10 (34:40):
What they need beating up? I mean, no, these kids,
they have other things.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
The Karen, they obviously don't. I mean, you know, if so,
it's it's one thirty on a Saturday morning, it's maybe
on a Sunday morning, excuse me, it might be time
to go home and you know, sleep in so you
can get up the next day. They probably don't have
a job, They probably don't have a girlfriend or a boyfriend.
(35:07):
They probably are losers with a capital L.
Speaker 10 (35:11):
Well. I hope, I hope they are consequences for what
they've done, because they have to be.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You know. I'm with you, Karen, I'm with you. And
there are people who have trouble sleeping at night. There
are people who little kids, and the kids wake up
and they get scared. These people are losers for a
number of reasons. One, they've never accomplished anything in their lives.
They they have no great prospects, and their idea of
(35:38):
a good time is doing you know, some sort of
donuts in an intersection and making noise at one thirty
in the morning and disturbing other people. You got it.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
That's it's not good.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
That's why they're losers. They're total losers. And I hope
they're listening tonight because because I want them to know
that's what they are. They they may not realize it
until someone has the guts to tell them that, Okay,
they probably have been have been been treated with kid gloves,
and it's time for them to grow up. Caroen, I
want to get one more in real quickly. Thanks so
(36:11):
much for calling. If you call very much. I haven't
heard from you lately. Come on back soon. Okay, don't
be a stranger. Okay, sure, Thanks Karen, I talk to
you good night. Let me go to Michael and Aliborough.
Michael're gonna close up the R Force, Go right ahead, Michael.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Hey Dan, how are you? I'm gonna go tell you
when when I saw that cop car on fire, I
was almost desensitized. I'm thinking to myself, that's Boston. But
I'm thinking it reminds me of when the George Floyd
thing happened or anything like that. Not necessarily just George Floyd.
(36:45):
But I do have a question. Sure, tinted windows. I
know they can't tint the front one, but what about
the first two? Those are tinted. They tint the back
over their license plate. But when you get a stick
now it's all it's all recorded on film. Wow, get
(37:05):
away with this stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Well, you know what happens is you, you and I
go and we get our stickers and we do it legitimately,
and a lot of other people do it a little
underhandedly and Unfortunately, if if if you and I were
going to be abut, you know, breaking the law and
doing crazy things at one thirty in the morning, we
probably would be able to figure out how to get
a sticker even though the windows are tinted. It's just
(37:29):
the way of the world, right, Yeah, Michael, great points.
I'm glad you called. You made you made your points
in quick in quick order, and I appreciate it. Call
more often and call earlier so we can have some conversations.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Okay, I will, I will see later.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Thank you, Bell. I have a great night to those
who are calling. Let Cornelia stick around for the for
the eleven o'clock hour, we're going to change talk topics
and talk about this Harvard Law School professor who doesn't
realize he's living next with us in Agard but decides
to shoot a gun at nine o'clock at night because
he's outshooting rats. I don't know too many Harvard Law
(38:07):
School professors who even know what a gun is, never
mind outshooting rats. But we'll say we'll talk about it
on the other side.
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