September 25, 2025 • 39 mins
Earlier this week, President Trump and his Administration made claims about the correlation between autism and Tylenol or acetaminophen use during pregnancy, warning pregnant women not to use the drug. A mounting backlash has followed with medical and autism experts alike disagreeing with Trump’s claims. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the American Academy of Pediatrics continue to recommend acetaminophen in pregnancy and childhood when used at the lowest dose for the shortest duration. Mayo Clinic trained Rheumatologist Dr. Alfred Miller takes aim with the claims and believes the Trump Admin. is ignoring scientific studies regarding autism. Dr. Miller joined us to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
WBZ Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, welcome back everyone again.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
My thanks last hour to Jeff Riley, the co founder
and executive director of Day of AI USA dot org
and Rob please write that email down in case anyone
is looking for a Day of AI capital A capital
I USA dot org. This week, the White House held
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a much anticipated news conference. President Trump I think was
very ill prepared for the news conference. There were several
of the medical, high ranking medical officials of the Trump administration.
Doctor McCarey was there, Uh, there, there were Doctor Oz
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was there. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F.
Kennedy Junior was there. Doctor Bodichario was there, and they
came to announce to the world that women should stop
using thailanol during a pregnancy because it was their belief
not supported by much, if any, medical studies, that the
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the ingredient in thailanol and over the counter drug that
I think all of us are familiar with as a
it's called a scene of minifin, and they claim that
that leads to autism, and the the thilanol is used
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to control whatever discomfort or pain a pregnant woman might
have during her nine months of pregnancy. My great friend
doctor Alfred Miller, who is a male clinic rheumatologist, practiced
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for forty years and has an expertise in lyme disease
that I think is better than anyone that I know,
called me this week and was really upset with what
the White House was telling the world. Robi had asked
you earlier, if that SoundBite of the president okay, and
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I think that the president's inability it's a long word,
a set of minifit. But the President obviously was not
prepped for that news conference. He never should have held
that news conference. I just want to play the sound
bite of the President attempting to explain what the administration
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was opposed to.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
If you can roll that tape.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Upum first effective immediately, the f will be notifying physicians
at the use of I said, well, let's see how
we say that. I said, menin acetamnfin, I said, okay,
which is basically commonly known as thailand all during pregnancy
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can be associated with a very increased risk of autism.
So taking thailand all is not good. All right, I'll
say it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's not good. Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
That was not the most scientific presentation in the history
of the White House with us is doctor Alfred Miller.
Doctor Miller, what was your reaction to that news conference
the other day. I know you've expressed it to me
once before, but you you watched it.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What you think?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I was very, very disappointed that they came to that conclusion.
The question is why were these pregnant women taking palin all.
The most common use of talent Al is to control pain,
usually muscles, joints. These women were infected with barillia. You know,
there's forty different species of brilliant Brillia burgdorfhy is known
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as lyme disease, and that's very common in the Northeast,
but there are many different species, forty different species of
brillia all over the world, and it's been diagnosed, it's
been known and published in peer reviewed articles for a
long time now that barrillian infections result in autism. So
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if these pregnant women had brilli infection and we're having symptoms,
they would take talent all. Now they're attributing the resulting
autism to trial to talinol, and that is it's not correct.
I mean, it's just not correct because every single patient
that I've encountered that had autism when properly tested is
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positive for a burly infection. Now I want to say this, well,
I just want to say that the testing for brillia
is extremely, extremely important, and there are some pitfalls, and
I need to make the audience aware of those pitfalls.
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Most of the illnesses that now are that are now
considered to be autoimmune are treated with medications to suppress
the immune system to decrease in the illness. Well, the
immune system produces antibodies. And when someone is having a
blood test for brillia, and if you notice I used
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the word brillia, not blind disease, but in your mind
it should be the same. But if they're getting tested
the patient's blood is search that they search the patient's
blood for antibodies to any effective organism, and presumably they
would find it. But if the patient's immune system is
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being diminished because of the medications, it doesn't produce antibodies
and the results will be negative. Also, the verrillia has
the ability to buries itself deep into the tissue and
become a microscopic cyst and hides itself from the immune system.
And again, if you do a blood test on these
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patients and there are no antibodies and you come to
an errodious conclusion. So you have to keep those things
in mind. And I always tell the patients before getting
tested for brilliant fiction, take provocative antibiotics. I mean to
open up that cyst, bring out the organism, challenge your
immune system, and then get the test. And I have
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numerous numerous patients who contact me and they say, we
heard you on the Dan Ray Siow and we did
exactly what you said, and here are the results, and
they're all normal. And I tell them, let's give you
the provocative antibiotics, and they repeat the test in twenty
eight days and the same lab, the same test is
now positive. But the autism issue is it's been well
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known now that a berrillia infection will cause autism, and
that if the mother is infected with barillia, he passes
the infection onto the fetus through the placenta, and when
the baby is born, they are infected with barrillia, and
usually it shows itself in the second or third year
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of the child's life and comes out in the form
of autism. And again, when properly tested, they're positive for brillia.
When treated to eradicate for brillia, their symptoms disappear.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Now just show that unclear. I know a little bit
about this. You know a lot about it. I've learned
from you. And there are some of the audience might
not be following this. The bacteria Berrillia, which is you've
identified as the problem, can be transmitted to a human.
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I guess in about forty ways. It's just not lime
lime ticks that people can have Berrillia? Am I correct?
Have I understood what you've said in previous conversations.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
The answer is yes. And there are three ways that
an individual can become infected with brillier. The first is
what I just mentioned, if the mother's infected, that passes,
so they feed us through the percenta. The second way
is inside bite, specifically the tick. The tick has the
brilliant side and transmits it to the individual that's name bidden.
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And the third way is from sexual exposure because the
brillia is a spiral keep exactly exactly like sickles, and
these patients can be infected. But if their sexual partner
is infected.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Okay, but but the but the the origination of the bacteria, Uh,
from what I think I've learned from you, Uh, it's
just not the lime tick, uh that that initiates it.
There's a variety of insects around the country uh that
are that are not necessarily endemic to Massachusetts, but there
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there are areas of the of the country uh that
that have other uh insects that can carry of berrillia.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So you might be tested for lime disease, but but
you've got to be tested for for barillia to be
definitive uh, definitively convinced as to whether you have it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Am I close to correct on that.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yes, But the most common insect that transmits trans miss
brillian infection.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is the tick, and is the line is align disease
tick A line tick?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Well, I'm not going to limit it to any specific
tick because all of the ticks have the potential okay,
and the and the brilliant is in the salifa of
the tick. You know, oftentimes you read articles about if
you take the tick away, if you get a tick
bite and you remove the tick immediately, you saved yourself
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having the illness though it's in the saliva of the
tick and as soon as that tick enters the individual
with a bite that the berrillia are transmitted.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, Now that that that we certainly understand. So I
want to take a break, and when we come back,
I want to focus on a couple of issues. Why
autism does not display itself in children until somewhere around
the age of eighteen months. And you also sent me
a video tonight of a family whose child was impacted,
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which I just watched, and when it was identified as
having had a burrillial Berrillia infection, it was treated and
that child went from slipping into autism to escaping autism.
And again I'm not saying that every child that can
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happen to but it's an amazing video to see the child,
you know, at the age of twelve, perfectly healthy, bouncy.
Maybe by time eighteen, and the onset of autism gets
worse and worse and worse for a couple of years,
and then finally the child is treated properly medically and
is now on the road to recovery. We can talk
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about that. My guest is Alfred Miller. If you want
to talk about the Trump administration's call the other day
on Tayland Hall, which it just doesn't seem realistic to me. Uh,
Doctor Miller looks at it similarly from a much more
sophisticated medical viewpoint perspective. We will continue if you'd like
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to join the conversation six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I think the White House needed to say to people,
to women, you got to consult with.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Your own doctors. Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And I think that I think I think that RFK
Junior has pushed the administration down a path that at
some point they're going to have to retreat from. We'll
see what other people think as well. You have the
numbers coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm tell you
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
My guest is on, doctor Alfred Miller. He is a
Mayo Clinic trained rheumatologist, certainly has an expertise and lyme disease.
You've heard him here in the program many times. And
he's responding to the White House claim uh that thailandol
is the cause of autism in this country. I want
to ask you, doctor Miller, why has there been such
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a spike in the high the diagnoses of autism cases
in recent years? You know it is, it's it's gone
up remarkably. Do you have any theory or or or
or strong belief on that phenomenon.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
And yes, I think that because there are increasingly high
numbers of individuals infected with Burrellia. And if you have
more and more brilliant infections and the females, you're going
to have more and more transmission to fetuses and resulting autism.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Okay, then why why are they more and more brilliant
Burrillian infections?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
You know, I think it's difficult to give you a
specific reason, except that we now know that many many
illnesses are due to berrillia, and brilliant infections are on
the increase, and when these illnesses are encountered, instead of
attributing the origin to autoimmune the underlying infection is the ideology.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Now, lime disease was only identified in this country in
the mid twentieth.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Century, correct, Yes, And it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Was identified and named lime disease because the first cases
came out of an area near Lime, Connecticut.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But now when I look at maps of you know,
various lime disease.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Rocky mounted spotted fever, and there were some specific diseases
in Texas where you are, it just seems that there's
more in more UH infections. And I'm assuming that there
may be some correlation. It's almost the number of infections
seems to be growing geometrically, just as I don't know
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if anyone's ever at tracked the increase in the number
of of UH artistic artistic diagnoses with the same number
or percentage of increases of the presence of ticks.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And therefore lime.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Disease yes, and lime disease is also transmitted sexually. It's
in the semen of the man and in the vaginal
discharge of the female. So if one partner has the illness,
they transmitted to the other partner, and people are exposed
to many many texts in the environment and become infected
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and illnesses. There are many illnesses that are on increase,
and they say, well, not only autism, but other psychiatric
illnesses seem to be on the increase, and most of
these illnesses, when properly tested, are positive for brilliant. I'm
talking about everything from bipolar disorders, schedulophrenia to severe depression,
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on and on. And if you consider that these are
due to berrillia, and now we are documenting that, it's
going to make a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We're going to take a break here for news at
the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
If you'd like to ask a question, join the conversation
when I come back. One of the questions I want
to ask. My first question out of the box is why,
in doctor Miller's opinion, the administration announced a few months
ago that would they would announce a cause of tailanol
in September. They indeed did that. Why they would do
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it with I think a lack. I have seen no tests,
no you know, double blind type tests that have proven this.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It almost has seemed as if the White House felt
they had to come up with something, and it would
it was going to be Tilo and all. I don't
know what an impact it has had. I believe that
the company that produces tail and all, and I stand
to be corrected here if any of you know have
better information. I think it's a it's a product of
Johnson and Johnson. I don't know what sort of an
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impact that has had on the value of the company.
But it just seems to me to be reckless to
go with a definitive statement based upon such scant if
any evidence. Six one, seven, two four ten thirty, six
one seven, nine, three ten thirty. My guest, doctor Alfred Miller.
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We're talking about berrillia. We're talking about the cause of
infections that do lead to the the appearance of autism
in children after they get to be about eighteen months
of age. The child just goes into some sort of
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almost a catonic type state. If you're a parent who
has had experience with this and you'd like to talk
with doctor Miller, feel free to join the conversation. The
more information on something like this, it can only help us.
And it's a sort of condition, that disease, condition that,
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however you want to describe it, that is affecting all
too many children and all too many families.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Myself Thailand All is made by a company called Kinview,
an American consumer health company spun off from Johnson and
Johnson in twenty twenty three. The company became publicly traded
in May May fourth, twenty three under the ticker symbol KVUE.
The company's largest shareholders of both institutional investors such as
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the Vanguard Group in black Rock and individual ownerships including
executives and investors. Ken View is the maker of dozens
of brands of consumer products such as band Aid, Neutrogena, Listerine,
a Vino, Lactaid, Mitlanta, Zertech, Viizene, and Bendro. The company
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office an array of over the counter medication, skin and
personal care products, baby care, wound care, and other items.
So that is the company that owns Morgan and rather
owns Johnson and Johnson. My guest is doctor Alfred Miller.
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Doctor Miller, I'm just going to ask you one quasi
political question here.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
What do you think is forcing force the.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
White House to make this this declaration about Thailand all
this week?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It seems to me it's reckless.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
And we've had all sorts of response from other medical
organizations and professionals and boards around the country who have
criticized the White House. What is the benefit for the
White House to go off on this this rant, if
you will, without virtually any medical evidence or testing to
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support their conclusion.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Well, they made a promise to the public that they
that the incidents of autism was increasing, and they made
a promise that they would determine the cause of autism,
and they set a deadline of September. So by coming
out with the talent all conclusion, they've accomplished their goal. However,
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their their solution to the problem is erroneous. The fact
that these pregnant women are taking talent all. Their question
is why why are they taking talent? Well, it's probably
because they're trying to control the symptoms of the underlying
for really infection. So I'm not going to say that
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these individuals that the pregnant women are not taking tale all.
But the question is why are they taking to talent law,
and it's because of underlying Berrillia infection.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, I'm looking at the value of ken ken View stock,
and I think that five days ago it would would well,
four days ago would have been Monday. Even one day ago,
I guess it was. It's uh, this is a stock
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that a month ago was up over twenty one dollars
a share. It's now down to sixteen dollars and four
cents a share. That's a huge drop. It's like about
a twenty three percent drop in the last month. This
effect stocks, it affects investments. It just seems to me
to be reckless and that's the only way I can
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describe it. Let me get some phone calls for you, doctor,
Doctor Alfred Miller going to start off up in Canada.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Darryl is in Canada. Darrel, you are next on Nightsager.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Right ahead, Hey Dan, doctor Miller. There's a third time
Doctor Miller's been on I believe, and that's why he
draws attention.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
He has been on my show several times during the
past ten or twelve years, and.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
I think he's an That's why. That's why I had
to call in, because every time he's on, it's like
he has more information the title and all issue. If
it's ASA and or eyebill prof then that's a standard issue,
so it will affect all companies. So why are they
targeting time in all.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I don't know, I don't look, I understand.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I think I be proferent is different from a set
of minifing. I think there are two different medications. I
don't know the condition.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
But the one question I would have, the one question
I would have Dan for doctor Miller. I was out
front with d DA today and we're in moose season
right now.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
No, Darrel, I'm going to insist that you asked the question.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
The reason. The reason the reason I'm asking is because
the moose and the deer have a lot of different ticks,
and that's where does that meet affected by the ticks consumed?
Is that part of the issue.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Okay, let's let's see if doctor Miller can answer that question.
Doctor Miller, that one is not one, then I would
have expected. But if anybody can answer it, it would be you.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yeah, it's not it's not. The meat is not infected
with the brillier. The ticks carry the brillier and they
infect humans, but they don't It doesn't affect the meat
of the of the animal.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Basically, as I understand that the ticks get a ride
on the animal, they use the deer as a as
as a way to get around. I don't know that
that the ticks are infecting the deer or the moose.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Is am I off base on that one?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Doctor, No, that you're correct, You're correct.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
All right, Thanks Darryl, thank you for the question, and
I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Let me go next to Jennifer in Brockton, Massachusetts, a
little closer to home.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Hi Jennifer, Hi Dan, Hi doctor Miller, thank you for
taking my call.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Welcome.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Go right ahead, so hopefully I can communicate this in
a way that makes sense. I'm learning about Oh, thank you.
I'm learning about methylization games because we have a history
of autoimmune, connective tissue disorder, and demetriosis and some other
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stuff in our family. And I called him the last time,
I were asking if you have a relationship. Hello, did
that again?
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I didn't understand what you just said.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, please please be a little bit clearer if you could.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Jennifer, you said that you have a problem with your
family and autoimmune problem. What was the specific diagnosis that
that you referred to.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
It's undiagnosed. We don't work up right now.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Undiagnosed autoimmune problem.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
Go ahead, Well, the connective tissue disorder is undiagnosed. And
there's also you know, I don't know if you ever
heard of Parsonage Turner syndrome, Stephen Sternson syndrome. Uh, that's
more endometriosisites are some of.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
The things that But what I'm saying, Jennifer, Jennifer realized this.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Uh, doctor Miller is on a phone where he is
in Texas. You're calling from Brockton. If you can be
a little clearer, maybe doctor Miller will be able to
hear and understand. Uh, the type of give me the
you mentioned three or four symptoms. I'm not sure he's
able to hear them. Give me pronounce pronounce the first
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one for me.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Well, never mind about the diagnoses. I'm just gonna speak
up a little bit louder. Really, the root of my
question is about methylization genes. So I'm wondering. I know
methyalization genes affect the body's ability to detox.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Okay, by the way, hold on, Jennifer for a second.
What type of genes? I'm having trouble understand the ending
you said? Methodization genes? Is that?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Which?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
How you pronounce that? Doctor Miller? Are you familiar with that?
Those type of genes that she's referred to?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Well, let me just say this that a lot of
people attribute illnesses to genetics, and families share genes. There's
no question the families also share environment. And I've had
patients who tell me, well, my illnesses is hereditary because
my mother had it, my sisters have it. On and on.
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And when you when you ask them, where do they
where do they live? And they live in an endemic
area for brilliant? And where do you vacation? Well, with
vacation in Maine where brillian is very endemic so they
attribute it to genetics. Why it's really due to common environment.
And let me just say this about autoimmune disease. Autoimmune
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disease is illogical. It doesn't make sense for your immune system,
which is to protect you, to start you. And every single,
every single one percent of the so called autoimmune diseases
that I've encountered, when properly tested, are positive for a
brilliant there's not with no exceptions. And when you treat
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the brillier and eradicate the infections, the illness improves.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Okay, let me get I want Jennifer to be able
to complete her question. Jennifer, I hope that was somewhat helpful,
but go ahead and try to articulate your question.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Yes, no, that is helpful. I did listen to the
last conversation and I got that that much before. But
it's directly about metalization, like it's about the body's ability
to detox from virus or metals or hormones. Like some
things you just cannot get rid of in your body,
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and some people have genes that make that more difficult.
So I'm wondering if a person had a gene of
that sort where you cannot handle every day exposures. If
that would make if there's a connection to this particular
bacteria and then the consequences, does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Okay, well, I don't understand the question.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Let's see if doctor Miller does, because he's much more
verse th in this than I am.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Doctor Miller. I think that Jennifers is saying that.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
If you have a condition which does not allow your
body to excrete certain metals, she referred to de metalization.
I think that's the word she's using.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Is that correct, Jennifer, Yes, detoxing metals.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Detoxing metals.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Do you have a comment on that, doctor Miller, and
feel free to say yes.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Or no.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
The answers. I don't believe that whether the it's a
matter of the patient's immune system. Is immune system functioning
normally or not?
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Right?
Speaker 7 (30:03):
But the gene that I'm talking about, it's the m
t HF fire gene methyl transfolid or something like that,
and there's other it's it's abbreviated m t HF fire.
It makes it difficult. It basically weakens the body's immune system.
It reached havoc on the body, and then it allows
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for all these other problems to manifest So I'm just
wondering if there's a relationship that if a person has
that sort of a problem, if there's a relationship with
this with lime and brellia, is it brelia?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Doctor, If you want to make a comment on that,
I think a question is clearer. But if if you're
if you choose not to, that's fine as well. What
what's you're sorry, no, Jennifer, that's fine. Difficult question. Let's
what doctor Miller has to say.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Doctor Miller, thank you.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I do not believe, I do not believe that that
the there is a genetic predisposition to having a Berrilli infection.
If the organism is injected into the patient, the patient
will have a Barellier infection and the resulting illnesses that
are produced or are you just cannot imagine, cannot imagine
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all the different illnesses that are now attributed to auto
mune or genetics. All those illnesses, when properly tested, are
positive one hundred percent positive for Burrillier infection.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
All right, Jennifer, I think we have gone as far
as we can. Thank you for your call, and thank
you for working with me on it. I appreciate it.
I wasn't trying to be difficult on you. I was
trying to understand the questions. Thanks so much.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
No, No, it's okay, Thank you both.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
You're very welcome. We'll take a quick break here at
night time. My guest, doctor Alfred Miller. We are talking
about the decision by the White House to recommend that
women know longer take tylan o.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
The ingredient is the set of mino fiend.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
That is not an easy word to pronounce, as President
Trump found it out the other day. Uh, and I
think it was sort of embarrassing to watch. We'll be
back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Night Side with Dan Ray on w B Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Okay, I'm gonna try to pick the pace up a
little bit. I have three callers. I love to get
them all in. Let me go first to Peter in Littleton, Massachusetts.
Peter next on Nightside with doctor Alfred Milliger.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Ahead, Peter, Good evening, gentlemen. I don't really have any
direct questions for the doctor, but I have have some
insight on why this announcement was made.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
There were a.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Couple of doctors, uh, doctor Oz and one of the
other doctors that worked for mister Kennedy came on uh
and to explain why they came to the conclusion they did.
And in the the gist of the story was they
had mister Kennedy perhaps had seen this originally and then
brought these other doctors into it, and they did a
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study themselves. But apparently Harvard Medical School did a study
of all the studies recent studies that have been made
into this phenomena, and the conclusion was of their study
of these studies was that tylanal was the cause or
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was was a main contender based on the fact that
the rate of ADHD and the impact of this the
increase over the past few years, exponential increase of cases
has a direct correlation was when tail and all first
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came on the market. Now tailanol is used by pregnant
women not just to cope with pain, but also.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Eleo has been in the market serve for at least
at this point more than forty years.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
Sure, so the studies would.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Okay, again, you know, here's the thing, doctor Miller's here,
and Peter I appreciated. What I'm concerned about is you're
going to tell me about a whole bunch of studies.
If the white house has some studies or a compilation
of studies, let them put it out there. I haven't
seen them. I read the newspapers very closely. If you've
got some studies and you want to tell me that
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this was a good decision, that's fine. Send me some materials.
Rob will give you my direct email. I'll be happy
to look at them.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
Well, yeah, let me just make one statement. This was
signed the study of these studies was supposedly signed off
by the dean of the Harvard Medical School.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
So you say send it to me, because because that's
not in the New York Times, it's not in the
Washington Post, it's not in the Boston Globe. And if
you where have you seen that? What newspaper have you
seen that in?
Speaker 8 (34:57):
Again, it was announced they had the two doctors.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Doctor okay, so doctor oz or someone announced something. But
you can't cite me where were you. You're just relying
upon which is said Peter. I got other folks.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
I'm just trying to provide insight. I'm not I'm not
here to argue with you. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
You know what I'm saying is you're citing you citing
something that I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
It would be like, yeah, Peter, I'm not gonna with you.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I'm not arguing with you. Okay, I'm just telling you
got if you see that somewhere a story on it,
please send it to me. Rob will give you my
direct email. I mean, that's seriously, I'm not trying to
be a wise guy. I've got doctor Miller here, I'm
not going to have him for only a few more minutes.
And i have two other people who I'd love to
give them a chance to ask a question. Okay, thank
you very much. Talk to Rob and he'll give you that.
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Let me go next real quickly to John and Boston. John,
I'm begging you, give me a quick question for doctor Miller.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Yes, doctor Miller, thank you. Doctor Miller was just looking
in Dr MCA, Doctor Monty McCarey, and doctor Joseph Lobbado
down in Florida is a surgeon general. Both went well.
Doctor Lobido went to Hobbard. Here's the supportive of what
President Trump was referring about Thailand. All so my question
is doctor Bato went to Hobbard. Doctor McCarey was talking
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about the Dean of Public Health of Hobbard. UH was
saying there's a causal relations. Those are exact words. There's
the causal relation between tail and all or aceta, metaphine
and autism. So it's not Donald Trump saying, this is
my point, and that's what's getting Why can't we just
have the scientists and the doctors. Donald Trump's too busy
to study.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I see the manifest that John John John, John John.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
The vast majority of doctors that I have seen on
television and read in newspapers agree with doctor Miller. His
word to me earlier was that this is a ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
So why is the deed of public health at Hobbard
Dan Why is this okay?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Doctor Miller? Doctor Miller.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
John's question is there may be some some people in
the medical field, even a couple of people who were significant,
they say this is a this is a good conclusion.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
What say you that.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
I can tell you that some of the very major
institutions that are highly regarded, that are highly regarded, do
not test properly for brillia. And there are many illnesses
that patients who reached and I had a patient in
Florida who a twenty nine year old woman who was
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a bedridden came back from the Mayo clinic with the
diagnosis of als two children, ages four and six, and
they had a family was so depressed because there's no
treatment for als lu Garritt's disease. Well, they heard about
me and they contacted me. We got her tested, she
was positive for brillia. She was treated, and then three
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months later they sent me a video of this bedridden
woman climbing a flight of stairs, going up and down
the stairs, and they were just so tickled. So these
major institutions do not follow the proper testing method and
and you I can tell you I've encountered many, many,
many patients from Harvard, from John Hopkins, from you name it,
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every major medical institution that has a high regard as
regarded very highly. If they don't test properly, they come
up with an erroneous conclusion.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
All right, John, I'm flat out of time. I hope
I got you an answer. There may not be the
one you wanted.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
But let's say, just trust of medicine. That's all the end.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
It seems like we can't trust these schools. Who how
do you know who to believe? You just have the
studies and see that's.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
All, John, If you want to hold on I'll talk
to you and the other side of the eleven o'clock news,
but I got to break for news. So if you'd
like to hold on, you can hold on. If the
others want to hold on, they can hold on. Doctor Miller.
Class dismissed. Thank you for your time tonight.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
We'll talk in the next day or so. Thank you
so much, doctor Miller.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Well, thank thank you, Dan. I really appreciate you having
me on.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Well, I come back at you with many You're you're
you're the you are the guy that that has led
me to the conclusions that I have, and I thank you.
We will talk soon. Thank you very much, doctor Alfred Miller.
How can folks get in touch with you, doctor Miller?
You have an easy website, right.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Yeah, Doctor al Miller at gmail dot com. All lower
case letters and no punctuation marks.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
So D R D R L Miller at gmail dot com,
A M I L L.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
E R at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Thank you, doctor Miller. We'll talk again. We'll talk in
the next couple of days.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
If you want to stay on the line, John, I'll
continue the call with you and and we can have
a conversation about this in the next hour. I'd love
to do that, coming back on night Side
WBZ Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, welcome back everyone again.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
My thanks last hour to Jeff Riley, the co founder
and executive director of Day of AI USA dot org
and Rob please write that email down in case anyone
is looking for a Day of AI capital A capital
I USA dot org. This week, the White House held
(00:34):
a much anticipated news conference. President Trump I think was
very ill prepared for the news conference. There were several
of the medical, high ranking medical officials of the Trump administration.
Doctor McCarey was there, Uh, there, there were Doctor Oz
(00:59):
was there. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F.
Kennedy Junior was there. Doctor Bodichario was there, and they
came to announce to the world that women should stop
using thailanol during a pregnancy because it was their belief
not supported by much, if any, medical studies, that the
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the ingredient in thailanol and over the counter drug that
I think all of us are familiar with as a
it's called a scene of minifin, and they claim that
that leads to autism, and the the thilanol is used
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to control whatever discomfort or pain a pregnant woman might
have during her nine months of pregnancy. My great friend
doctor Alfred Miller, who is a male clinic rheumatologist, practiced
(02:09):
for forty years and has an expertise in lyme disease
that I think is better than anyone that I know,
called me this week and was really upset with what
the White House was telling the world. Robi had asked
you earlier, if that SoundBite of the president okay, and
(02:34):
I think that the president's inability it's a long word,
a set of minifit. But the President obviously was not
prepped for that news conference. He never should have held
that news conference. I just want to play the sound
bite of the President attempting to explain what the administration
(02:55):
was opposed to.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
If you can roll that tape.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Upum first effective immediately, the f will be notifying physicians
at the use of I said, well, let's see how
we say that. I said, menin acetamnfin, I said, okay,
which is basically commonly known as thailand all during pregnancy
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can be associated with a very increased risk of autism.
So taking thailand all is not good. All right, I'll
say it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's not good. Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
That was not the most scientific presentation in the history
of the White House with us is doctor Alfred Miller.
Doctor Miller, what was your reaction to that news conference
the other day. I know you've expressed it to me
once before, but you you watched it.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What you think?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I was very, very disappointed that they came to that conclusion.
The question is why were these pregnant women taking palin all.
The most common use of talent Al is to control pain,
usually muscles, joints. These women were infected with barillia. You know,
there's forty different species of brilliant Brillia burgdorfhy is known
(04:20):
as lyme disease, and that's very common in the Northeast,
but there are many different species, forty different species of
brillia all over the world, and it's been diagnosed, it's
been known and published in peer reviewed articles for a
long time now that barrillian infections result in autism. So
(04:47):
if these pregnant women had brilli infection and we're having symptoms,
they would take talent all. Now they're attributing the resulting
autism to trial to talinol, and that is it's not correct.
I mean, it's just not correct because every single patient
that I've encountered that had autism when properly tested is
(05:09):
positive for a burly infection. Now I want to say this, well,
I just want to say that the testing for brillia
is extremely, extremely important, and there are some pitfalls, and
I need to make the audience aware of those pitfalls.
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Most of the illnesses that now are that are now
considered to be autoimmune are treated with medications to suppress
the immune system to decrease in the illness. Well, the
immune system produces antibodies. And when someone is having a
blood test for brillia, and if you notice I used
(05:52):
the word brillia, not blind disease, but in your mind
it should be the same. But if they're getting tested
the patient's blood is search that they search the patient's
blood for antibodies to any effective organism, and presumably they
would find it. But if the patient's immune system is
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being diminished because of the medications, it doesn't produce antibodies
and the results will be negative. Also, the verrillia has
the ability to buries itself deep into the tissue and
become a microscopic cyst and hides itself from the immune system.
And again, if you do a blood test on these
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patients and there are no antibodies and you come to
an errodious conclusion. So you have to keep those things
in mind. And I always tell the patients before getting
tested for brilliant fiction, take provocative antibiotics. I mean to
open up that cyst, bring out the organism, challenge your
immune system, and then get the test. And I have
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numerous numerous patients who contact me and they say, we
heard you on the Dan Ray Siow and we did
exactly what you said, and here are the results, and
they're all normal. And I tell them, let's give you
the provocative antibiotics, and they repeat the test in twenty
eight days and the same lab, the same test is
now positive. But the autism issue is it's been well
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known now that a berrillia infection will cause autism, and
that if the mother is infected with barillia, he passes
the infection onto the fetus through the placenta, and when
the baby is born, they are infected with barrillia, and
usually it shows itself in the second or third year
(07:43):
of the child's life and comes out in the form
of autism. And again, when properly tested, they're positive for brillia.
When treated to eradicate for brillia, their symptoms disappear.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Now just show that unclear. I know a little bit
about this. You know a lot about it. I've learned
from you. And there are some of the audience might
not be following this. The bacteria Berrillia, which is you've
identified as the problem, can be transmitted to a human.
(08:17):
I guess in about forty ways. It's just not lime
lime ticks that people can have Berrillia? Am I correct?
Have I understood what you've said in previous conversations.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
The answer is yes. And there are three ways that
an individual can become infected with brillier. The first is
what I just mentioned, if the mother's infected, that passes,
so they feed us through the percenta. The second way
is inside bite, specifically the tick. The tick has the
brilliant side and transmits it to the individual that's name bidden.
(08:56):
And the third way is from sexual exposure because the
brillia is a spiral keep exactly exactly like sickles, and
these patients can be infected. But if their sexual partner
is infected.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Okay, but but the but the the origination of the bacteria, Uh,
from what I think I've learned from you, Uh, it's
just not the lime tick, uh that that initiates it.
There's a variety of insects around the country uh that
are that are not necessarily endemic to Massachusetts, but there
(09:34):
there are areas of the of the country uh that
that have other uh insects that can carry of berrillia.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So you might be tested for lime disease, but but
you've got to be tested for for barillia to be
definitive uh, definitively convinced as to whether you have it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Am I close to correct on that.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yes, But the most common insect that transmits trans miss
brillian infection.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is the tick, and is the line is align disease
tick A line tick?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Well, I'm not going to limit it to any specific
tick because all of the ticks have the potential okay,
and the and the brilliant is in the salifa of
the tick. You know, oftentimes you read articles about if
you take the tick away, if you get a tick
bite and you remove the tick immediately, you saved yourself
(10:31):
having the illness though it's in the saliva of the
tick and as soon as that tick enters the individual
with a bite that the berrillia are transmitted.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, Now that that that we certainly understand. So I
want to take a break, and when we come back,
I want to focus on a couple of issues. Why
autism does not display itself in children until somewhere around
the age of eighteen months. And you also sent me
a video tonight of a family whose child was impacted,
(11:08):
which I just watched, and when it was identified as
having had a burrillial Berrillia infection, it was treated and
that child went from slipping into autism to escaping autism.
And again I'm not saying that every child that can
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happen to but it's an amazing video to see the child,
you know, at the age of twelve, perfectly healthy, bouncy.
Maybe by time eighteen, and the onset of autism gets
worse and worse and worse for a couple of years,
and then finally the child is treated properly medically and
is now on the road to recovery. We can talk
(11:50):
about that. My guest is Alfred Miller. If you want
to talk about the Trump administration's call the other day
on Tayland Hall, which it just doesn't seem realistic to me. Uh,
Doctor Miller looks at it similarly from a much more
sophisticated medical viewpoint perspective. We will continue if you'd like
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to join the conversation six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I think the White House needed to say to people,
to women, you got to consult with.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Your own doctors. Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And I think that I think I think that RFK
Junior has pushed the administration down a path that at
some point they're going to have to retreat from. We'll
see what other people think as well. You have the
numbers coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm tell you
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
My guest is on, doctor Alfred Miller. He is a
Mayo Clinic trained rheumatologist, certainly has an expertise and lyme disease.
You've heard him here in the program many times. And
he's responding to the White House claim uh that thailandol
is the cause of autism in this country. I want
to ask you, doctor Miller, why has there been such
(13:13):
a spike in the high the diagnoses of autism cases
in recent years? You know it is, it's it's gone
up remarkably. Do you have any theory or or or
or strong belief on that phenomenon.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
And yes, I think that because there are increasingly high
numbers of individuals infected with Burrellia. And if you have
more and more brilliant infections and the females, you're going
to have more and more transmission to fetuses and resulting autism.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Okay, then why why are they more and more brilliant
Burrillian infections?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
You know, I think it's difficult to give you a
specific reason, except that we now know that many many
illnesses are due to berrillia, and brilliant infections are on
the increase, and when these illnesses are encountered, instead of
attributing the origin to autoimmune the underlying infection is the ideology.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Now, lime disease was only identified in this country in
the mid twentieth.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Century, correct, Yes, And it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Was identified and named lime disease because the first cases
came out of an area near Lime, Connecticut.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But now when I look at maps of you know,
various lime disease.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Rocky mounted spotted fever, and there were some specific diseases
in Texas where you are, it just seems that there's
more in more UH infections. And I'm assuming that there
may be some correlation. It's almost the number of infections
seems to be growing geometrically, just as I don't know
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if anyone's ever at tracked the increase in the number
of of UH artistic artistic diagnoses with the same number
or percentage of increases of the presence of ticks.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And therefore lime.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Disease yes, and lime disease is also transmitted sexually. It's
in the semen of the man and in the vaginal
discharge of the female. So if one partner has the illness,
they transmitted to the other partner, and people are exposed
to many many texts in the environment and become infected
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and illnesses. There are many illnesses that are on increase,
and they say, well, not only autism, but other psychiatric
illnesses seem to be on the increase, and most of
these illnesses, when properly tested, are positive for brilliant. I'm
talking about everything from bipolar disorders, schedulophrenia to severe depression,
(16:18):
on and on. And if you consider that these are
due to berrillia, and now we are documenting that, it's
going to make a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We're going to take a break here for news at
the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
If you'd like to ask a question, join the conversation
when I come back. One of the questions I want
to ask. My first question out of the box is why,
in doctor Miller's opinion, the administration announced a few months
ago that would they would announce a cause of tailanol
in September. They indeed did that. Why they would do
(16:54):
it with I think a lack. I have seen no tests,
no you know, double blind type tests that have proven this.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It almost has seemed as if the White House felt
they had to come up with something, and it would
it was going to be Tilo and all. I don't
know what an impact it has had. I believe that
the company that produces tail and all, and I stand
to be corrected here if any of you know have
better information. I think it's a it's a product of
Johnson and Johnson. I don't know what sort of an
(17:26):
impact that has had on the value of the company.
But it just seems to me to be reckless to
go with a definitive statement based upon such scant if
any evidence. Six one, seven, two four ten thirty, six
one seven, nine, three ten thirty. My guest, doctor Alfred Miller.
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We're talking about berrillia. We're talking about the cause of
infections that do lead to the the appearance of autism
in children after they get to be about eighteen months
of age. The child just goes into some sort of
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almost a catonic type state. If you're a parent who
has had experience with this and you'd like to talk
with doctor Miller, feel free to join the conversation. The
more information on something like this, it can only help us.
And it's a sort of condition, that disease, condition that,
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however you want to describe it, that is affecting all
too many children and all too many families.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Myself Thailand All is made by a company called Kinview,
an American consumer health company spun off from Johnson and
Johnson in twenty twenty three. The company became publicly traded
in May May fourth, twenty three under the ticker symbol KVUE.
The company's largest shareholders of both institutional investors such as
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the Vanguard Group in black Rock and individual ownerships including
executives and investors. Ken View is the maker of dozens
of brands of consumer products such as band Aid, Neutrogena, Listerine,
a Vino, Lactaid, Mitlanta, Zertech, Viizene, and Bendro. The company
(19:28):
office an array of over the counter medication, skin and
personal care products, baby care, wound care, and other items.
So that is the company that owns Morgan and rather
owns Johnson and Johnson. My guest is doctor Alfred Miller.
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Doctor Miller, I'm just going to ask you one quasi
political question here.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
What do you think is forcing force the.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
White House to make this this declaration about Thailand all
this week?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It seems to me it's reckless.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
And we've had all sorts of response from other medical
organizations and professionals and boards around the country who have
criticized the White House. What is the benefit for the
White House to go off on this this rant, if
you will, without virtually any medical evidence or testing to
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support their conclusion.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Well, they made a promise to the public that they
that the incidents of autism was increasing, and they made
a promise that they would determine the cause of autism,
and they set a deadline of September. So by coming
out with the talent all conclusion, they've accomplished their goal. However,
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their their solution to the problem is erroneous. The fact
that these pregnant women are taking talent all. Their question
is why why are they taking talent? Well, it's probably
because they're trying to control the symptoms of the underlying
for really infection. So I'm not going to say that
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these individuals that the pregnant women are not taking tale all.
But the question is why are they taking to talent law,
and it's because of underlying Berrillia infection.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, I'm looking at the value of ken ken View stock,
and I think that five days ago it would would well,
four days ago would have been Monday. Even one day ago,
I guess it was. It's uh, this is a stock
(21:55):
that a month ago was up over twenty one dollars
a share. It's now down to sixteen dollars and four
cents a share. That's a huge drop. It's like about
a twenty three percent drop in the last month. This
effect stocks, it affects investments. It just seems to me
to be reckless and that's the only way I can
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describe it. Let me get some phone calls for you, doctor,
Doctor Alfred Miller going to start off up in Canada.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Darryl is in Canada. Darrel, you are next on Nightsager.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Right ahead, Hey Dan, doctor Miller. There's a third time
Doctor Miller's been on I believe, and that's why he
draws attention.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
He has been on my show several times during the
past ten or twelve years, and.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
I think he's an That's why. That's why I had
to call in, because every time he's on, it's like
he has more information the title and all issue. If
it's ASA and or eyebill prof then that's a standard issue,
so it will affect all companies. So why are they
targeting time in all.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I don't know, I don't look, I understand.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I think I be proferent is different from a set
of minifing. I think there are two different medications. I
don't know the condition.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
But the one question I would have, the one question
I would have Dan for doctor Miller. I was out
front with d DA today and we're in moose season
right now.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
No, Darrel, I'm going to insist that you asked the question.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
The reason. The reason the reason I'm asking is because
the moose and the deer have a lot of different ticks,
and that's where does that meet affected by the ticks consumed?
Is that part of the issue.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Okay, let's let's see if doctor Miller can answer that question.
Doctor Miller, that one is not one, then I would
have expected. But if anybody can answer it, it would be you.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yeah, it's not it's not. The meat is not infected
with the brillier. The ticks carry the brillier and they
infect humans, but they don't It doesn't affect the meat
of the of the animal.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Basically, as I understand that the ticks get a ride
on the animal, they use the deer as a as
as a way to get around. I don't know that
that the ticks are infecting the deer or the moose.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Is am I off base on that one?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Doctor, No, that you're correct, You're correct.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
All right, Thanks Darryl, thank you for the question, and
I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Let me go next to Jennifer in Brockton, Massachusetts, a
little closer to home.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Hi Jennifer, Hi Dan, Hi doctor Miller, thank you for
taking my call.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Welcome.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Go right ahead, so hopefully I can communicate this in
a way that makes sense. I'm learning about Oh, thank you.
I'm learning about methylization games because we have a history
of autoimmune, connective tissue disorder, and demetriosis and some other
(25:22):
stuff in our family. And I called him the last time,
I were asking if you have a relationship. Hello, did
that again?
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I didn't understand what you just said.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, please please be a little bit clearer if you could.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Jennifer, you said that you have a problem with your
family and autoimmune problem. What was the specific diagnosis that
that you referred to.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
It's undiagnosed. We don't work up right now.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Undiagnosed autoimmune problem.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
Go ahead, Well, the connective tissue disorder is undiagnosed. And
there's also you know, I don't know if you ever
heard of Parsonage Turner syndrome, Stephen Sternson syndrome. Uh, that's
more endometriosisites are some of.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
The things that But what I'm saying, Jennifer, Jennifer realized this.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Uh, doctor Miller is on a phone where he is
in Texas. You're calling from Brockton. If you can be
a little clearer, maybe doctor Miller will be able to
hear and understand. Uh, the type of give me the
you mentioned three or four symptoms. I'm not sure he's
able to hear them. Give me pronounce pronounce the first
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one for me.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Well, never mind about the diagnoses. I'm just gonna speak
up a little bit louder. Really, the root of my
question is about methylization genes. So I'm wondering. I know
methyalization genes affect the body's ability to detox.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Okay, by the way, hold on, Jennifer for a second.
What type of genes? I'm having trouble understand the ending
you said? Methodization genes? Is that?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Which?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
How you pronounce that? Doctor Miller? Are you familiar with that?
Those type of genes that she's referred to?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Well, let me just say this that a lot of
people attribute illnesses to genetics, and families share genes. There's
no question the families also share environment. And I've had
patients who tell me, well, my illnesses is hereditary because
my mother had it, my sisters have it. On and on.
(27:32):
And when you when you ask them, where do they
where do they live? And they live in an endemic
area for brilliant? And where do you vacation? Well, with
vacation in Maine where brillian is very endemic so they
attribute it to genetics. Why it's really due to common environment.
And let me just say this about autoimmune disease. Autoimmune
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disease is illogical. It doesn't make sense for your immune system,
which is to protect you, to start you. And every single,
every single one percent of the so called autoimmune diseases
that I've encountered, when properly tested, are positive for a
brilliant there's not with no exceptions. And when you treat
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the brillier and eradicate the infections, the illness improves.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Okay, let me get I want Jennifer to be able
to complete her question. Jennifer, I hope that was somewhat helpful,
but go ahead and try to articulate your question.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Yes, no, that is helpful. I did listen to the
last conversation and I got that that much before. But
it's directly about metalization, like it's about the body's ability
to detox from virus or metals or hormones. Like some
things you just cannot get rid of in your body,
(28:51):
and some people have genes that make that more difficult.
So I'm wondering if a person had a gene of
that sort where you cannot handle every day exposures. If
that would make if there's a connection to this particular
bacteria and then the consequences, does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Okay, well, I don't understand the question.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Let's see if doctor Miller does, because he's much more
verse th in this than I am.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Doctor Miller. I think that Jennifers is saying that.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
If you have a condition which does not allow your
body to excrete certain metals, she referred to de metalization.
I think that's the word she's using.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Is that correct, Jennifer, Yes, detoxing metals.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Detoxing metals.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Do you have a comment on that, doctor Miller, and
feel free to say yes.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Or no.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
The answers. I don't believe that whether the it's a
matter of the patient's immune system. Is immune system functioning
normally or not?
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Right?
Speaker 7 (30:03):
But the gene that I'm talking about, it's the m
t HF fire gene methyl transfolid or something like that,
and there's other it's it's abbreviated m t HF fire.
It makes it difficult. It basically weakens the body's immune system.
It reached havoc on the body, and then it allows
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for all these other problems to manifest So I'm just
wondering if there's a relationship that if a person has
that sort of a problem, if there's a relationship with
this with lime and brellia, is it brelia?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Doctor, If you want to make a comment on that,
I think a question is clearer. But if if you're
if you choose not to, that's fine as well. What
what's you're sorry, no, Jennifer, that's fine. Difficult question. Let's
what doctor Miller has to say.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Doctor Miller, thank you.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I do not believe, I do not believe that that
the there is a genetic predisposition to having a Berrilli infection.
If the organism is injected into the patient, the patient
will have a Barellier infection and the resulting illnesses that
are produced or are you just cannot imagine, cannot imagine
(31:24):
all the different illnesses that are now attributed to auto
mune or genetics. All those illnesses, when properly tested, are
positive one hundred percent positive for Burrillier infection.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
All right, Jennifer, I think we have gone as far
as we can. Thank you for your call, and thank
you for working with me on it. I appreciate it.
I wasn't trying to be difficult on you. I was
trying to understand the questions. Thanks so much.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
No, No, it's okay, Thank you both.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
You're very welcome. We'll take a quick break here at
night time. My guest, doctor Alfred Miller. We are talking
about the decision by the White House to recommend that
women know longer take tylan o.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
The ingredient is the set of mino fiend.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
That is not an easy word to pronounce, as President
Trump found it out the other day. Uh, and I
think it was sort of embarrassing to watch. We'll be
back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Night Side with Dan Ray on w B Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Okay, I'm gonna try to pick the pace up a
little bit. I have three callers. I love to get
them all in. Let me go first to Peter in Littleton, Massachusetts.
Peter next on Nightside with doctor Alfred Milliger.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Ahead, Peter, Good evening, gentlemen. I don't really have any
direct questions for the doctor, but I have have some
insight on why this announcement was made.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
There were a.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Couple of doctors, uh, doctor Oz and one of the
other doctors that worked for mister Kennedy came on uh
and to explain why they came to the conclusion they did.
And in the the gist of the story was they
had mister Kennedy perhaps had seen this originally and then
brought these other doctors into it, and they did a
(33:09):
study themselves. But apparently Harvard Medical School did a study
of all the studies recent studies that have been made
into this phenomena, and the conclusion was of their study
of these studies was that tylanal was the cause or
(33:30):
was was a main contender based on the fact that
the rate of ADHD and the impact of this the
increase over the past few years, exponential increase of cases
has a direct correlation was when tail and all first
(33:51):
came on the market. Now tailanol is used by pregnant
women not just to cope with pain, but also.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Eleo has been in the market serve for at least
at this point more than forty years.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
Sure, so the studies would.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Okay, again, you know, here's the thing, doctor Miller's here,
and Peter I appreciated. What I'm concerned about is you're
going to tell me about a whole bunch of studies.
If the white house has some studies or a compilation
of studies, let them put it out there. I haven't
seen them. I read the newspapers very closely. If you've
got some studies and you want to tell me that
(34:31):
this was a good decision, that's fine. Send me some materials.
Rob will give you my direct email. I'll be happy
to look at them.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
Well, yeah, let me just make one statement. This was
signed the study of these studies was supposedly signed off
by the dean of the Harvard Medical School.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
So you say send it to me, because because that's
not in the New York Times, it's not in the
Washington Post, it's not in the Boston Globe. And if
you where have you seen that? What newspaper have you
seen that in?
Speaker 8 (34:57):
Again, it was announced they had the two doctors.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Doctor okay, so doctor oz or someone announced something. But
you can't cite me where were you. You're just relying
upon which is said Peter. I got other folks.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
I'm just trying to provide insight. I'm not I'm not
here to argue with you. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
You know what I'm saying is you're citing you citing
something that I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
It would be like, yeah, Peter, I'm not gonna with you.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I'm not arguing with you. Okay, I'm just telling you
got if you see that somewhere a story on it,
please send it to me. Rob will give you my
direct email. I mean, that's seriously, I'm not trying to
be a wise guy. I've got doctor Miller here, I'm
not going to have him for only a few more minutes.
And i have two other people who I'd love to
give them a chance to ask a question. Okay, thank
you very much. Talk to Rob and he'll give you that.
(35:43):
Let me go next real quickly to John and Boston. John,
I'm begging you, give me a quick question for doctor Miller.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Yes, doctor Miller, thank you. Doctor Miller was just looking
in Dr MCA, Doctor Monty McCarey, and doctor Joseph Lobbado
down in Florida is a surgeon general. Both went well.
Doctor Lobido went to Hobbard. Here's the supportive of what
President Trump was referring about Thailand. All so my question
is doctor Bato went to Hobbard. Doctor McCarey was talking
(36:12):
about the Dean of Public Health of Hobbard. UH was
saying there's a causal relations. Those are exact words. There's
the causal relation between tail and all or aceta, metaphine
and autism. So it's not Donald Trump saying, this is
my point, and that's what's getting Why can't we just
have the scientists and the doctors. Donald Trump's too busy
to study.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I see the manifest that John John John, John John.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
The vast majority of doctors that I have seen on
television and read in newspapers agree with doctor Miller. His
word to me earlier was that this is a ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
So why is the deed of public health at Hobbard
Dan Why is this okay?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Doctor Miller? Doctor Miller.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
John's question is there may be some some people in
the medical field, even a couple of people who were significant,
they say this is a this is a good conclusion.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
What say you that.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
I can tell you that some of the very major
institutions that are highly regarded, that are highly regarded, do
not test properly for brillia. And there are many illnesses
that patients who reached and I had a patient in
Florida who a twenty nine year old woman who was
(37:23):
a bedridden came back from the Mayo clinic with the
diagnosis of als two children, ages four and six, and
they had a family was so depressed because there's no
treatment for als lu Garritt's disease. Well, they heard about
me and they contacted me. We got her tested, she
was positive for brillia. She was treated, and then three
(37:44):
months later they sent me a video of this bedridden
woman climbing a flight of stairs, going up and down
the stairs, and they were just so tickled. So these
major institutions do not follow the proper testing method and
and you I can tell you I've encountered many, many,
many patients from Harvard, from John Hopkins, from you name it,
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every major medical institution that has a high regard as
regarded very highly. If they don't test properly, they come
up with an erroneous conclusion.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
All right, John, I'm flat out of time. I hope
I got you an answer. There may not be the
one you wanted.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
But let's say, just trust of medicine. That's all the end.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
It seems like we can't trust these schools. Who how
do you know who to believe? You just have the
studies and see that's.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
All, John, If you want to hold on I'll talk
to you and the other side of the eleven o'clock news,
but I got to break for news. So if you'd
like to hold on, you can hold on. If the
others want to hold on, they can hold on. Doctor Miller.
Class dismissed. Thank you for your time tonight.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
We'll talk in the next day or so. Thank you
so much, doctor Miller.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Well, thank thank you, Dan. I really appreciate you having
me on.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Well, I come back at you with many You're you're
you're the you are the guy that that has led
me to the conclusions that I have, and I thank you.
We will talk soon. Thank you very much, doctor Alfred Miller.
How can folks get in touch with you, doctor Miller?
You have an easy website, right.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Yeah, Doctor al Miller at gmail dot com. All lower
case letters and no punctuation marks.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
So D R D R L Miller at gmail dot com,
A M I L L.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
E R at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Thank you, doctor Miller. We'll talk again. We'll talk in
the next couple of days.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
If you want to stay on the line, John, I'll
continue the call with you and and we can have
a conversation about this in the next hour. I'd love
to do that, coming back on night Side
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