November 20, 2025 • 41 mins
A handful of Democratic lawmakers who either served in the military or in the intelligence community put out a video telling military members they must "refuse illegal orders.” What type of illegal orders do they fear might come down? Most military members already know that they are legally required to disobey illegal orders so why the extra warning video?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Boston's niche video.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, so we were talking about the podcast that was
released yesterday of six Democrats basically reminding us military personnel
as if they need a reminder of their responsibility under
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the Uniform Code of Military Justice the UCMJ. They don't,
they don't. So I think what the Democrats did yesterday
was gratuitous. I think that what the President did today
in responding was superfluous. And I mean it just shows
that where are the adults? Where are the adults here?
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I'm going to play so people know what we're talking about.
These are six Democratic lawmakers, all of whom have military
service or, in the case of one, having worked for
the CIA. Today, President Trump accused these six of essentially treason, treason,
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and sedition, saying, amongst other things, that they the penalty
is death. I mean, he's just he can't control himself.
The six Democrats Congressman Chris Deluzio, he's from Pennsylvania. Senator
Elisa Slotkin, she worked for the CIA. She's from Michigan.
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Representative Chrissy Hulihan from Pennsylvania. Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona,
former astronaut Navy commander. Congresswoman Maggie Goodland are from New
Hampshire and Congressman Jason crow from Colorado. I'm going to
have Rob play in just a second cut number thirty one.
This is what started this latest war of words. Cut
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thirty one. Rub. I'm Senator Alissa Stockin, Senator Mark Kelly,
Representative Chris Deluzios.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Congressman Mayu Goodlander, Representative Chrissy Hulahan, Congressman Jason Crowe.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I was a captain in the United States Navy, former
CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper and Army ranger, former
intelligence officer.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Former Air Force.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
We want to speak directly to members of the military.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
And the intelligence community to take risks each day keep
Americans safe.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Americans trust their military, but that.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Trust is at risk. This administration is pitting our uniform,
military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like us.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You all swore an oath.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
To protect them this constitution. Right now, the threats to
our constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right
here at home.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. You
can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You must refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No one has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
We know this is hard and that it's a difficult
time to be a public servant. But whether you're serving
in the CIA, the Army, or Navy, the Air Force,
your vigilance is critical. And know that we have your
back because now more than ever, the American people need you.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
We need you to stand up for our laws, for constitution,
and who we are as Americans.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Don't give up.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Don't give up.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Don't give up.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Don't give up the ship.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Unnecessary, provocative, not helpful. And today President Trump doubled down
by suggesting that them making an unnecessary, provocative set of
comments yesterday somehow was treasonous and seditious, and the penalties
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for that would be up to and including death. And
as a matter of fact, when he jumped today, he said,
seditious behavior punishable by death. Hang them. George Washington would,
first of all, he can't help himself. He just cannot
help himself. Let's go to the phones. I'm holding Donna over. Donna,
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give you a couple of minutes here to pull your
thoughts together. Go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
I never did this before. I never thought I was
going to be going to bed with the nay. But
I'm under the covers now, that's what.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, Uh, Donna, A lot of women have told me
that in my life. Okay, the road, Okay.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
I think what we were saying.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Why, First of all, since sometimes bulls don't start listening
till eleven, I want to repeat how I don't think
Donald Trump has any character. That's why I can't vote
for him.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh, we got that, We got that. Don't need to repeat.
You've made yourself clear on that point. Go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Okay. What we were talking about was I meant him
that Mark Esper said a prayer and.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Wet and we doubt we dealt with that.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
We don't know, but you didn't. But you know, homos
all gone. Dan, you didn't tell me why you thought
it was long for him to say that.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I did tell you that. I did tell you that.
I said that. When there's a comment made to trusted Aid,
I think he was the Secretary of Defense at the time.
With the president some discretion. There has to be some
adult in the room who recognizes you just don't use uh,
you don't leak conversations you have with a president of
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the United States. You know, you just don't do that.
It's as simple as that. If you what you should do, what.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
You should do.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
What you should do is resign your office. Resign your office,
and then tell your story. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Well, if that's true, we would.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Have been spared a lot of grief if Nixon's people
talked about what Nixon was doing.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Or resign your office. If you're somebody who has character,
you resign your office, and then you can say why
you resign your office. But you don't maintain a relationship
with the president of the United States, and and and
and talk to somebody over the phone quietly and say
You'll never guess what he said to me. He said,
can we shoot them in the legs? You can't quote
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me on that, or maybe you can quote me on that.
I don't really care about it, but you heard that.
I mean, come on, yeah, I'm done with that. I'm
done with that. I've made it pretty clear what I think.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Oh, I disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think I would expect you to. That's what this
show is all about.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Yeah, that's why I think telling the nations is more
important than the president that you're working for the country itself.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Is more important than whoever's president, and you're serving with them.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
All right, fair enough, I'm gonna let you go to sleep.
You can continue to listen. Keep even if you're gonna
go to sleep, Remember keep the radio on. Okay, it's
good for the ratings. All right, all right, thank you,
don I have a great night. Uh. We will take
a break one line at six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. We got a couple at six one seven,
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nine three one ten thirty. I will I want to
hear from you. Look, if you're a Trump supporter and
you think that his response today was perfectly appropriate, feel free.
I don't think that anyone who's gonna say it was
perfectly appropriate. If you're a Trump supporter and you have
some guts, you can call up and you can tell
me you still like Trump, you still like his positions,
but you think that he needs to calm it down. Okay,
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he does not have to respond, first of all, in
that manner. Uh, to members of Congress, they represent one
one fifth of one percent. That's what a congressional district represents.
About one fifth of or one quarter of one percent,
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if you want to be generous, he represents the entire country.
He's wasting his time doing that, and as a matter
of fact, he basically they gave him a victory yesterday.
In my opinion, the public probably overall would be critical
of what the Democrats did yesterday. Now they're even more
critical of him calling for the death penalty or even
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implying the death penalty. We'll take a break, coming right back.
He got the lines. Dial in back after this.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's Night Side with Dan on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Back to the phones we go again, looking to hear
from people who want to defend the president. I think
he's dead wrong. I think that him not to understand it. Look,
the so called loyal opposition, they can say whatever they
want to say. For him, to suggest a sedition or treason,
way over the top, way over the top, death penalty,
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I mean, why go there, Why go there? People are
going to laugh at you, mister President. Bill in Pennsylvania,
Bill next on Nightside.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Right ahead, Hey, thanks for taking my call down. I
don't think anybody's laughing at the president. I think that
if George Washington was in the same situation, Yes, these
people will be taken out and shot, because that's what
they did back in those days. So why so.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So you you recognize that times are different, you have.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Sure tis sure the times you basically have.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Been given the Democrats yesterday gave him the high ground.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Okay, somebody they care about having the high ground. That's
one thing that everybody needs to understand. The guy's got
about three more years in there. He knows that that's
the end of it. He doesn't care what his ratings are.
And he's taken so many punches from these people low
low blows all right, hitler, fascist everything, racist president that's
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worse than anything on somebody who raises and he just
had enough of it. So he's not playing the game.
And these uh, these Democrats should be ashamed of themselves
because what they're doing. Okay, he's all he's doing.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Bill, Bill, I understand you are a Trump loyalist, and
I respect you for that. Okay, you have never been
ever criticized, to the best of my knowledge, Donald Trump,
which is fine. I'm telling you that there are people
in the middle, not the loyal members of his base,
and you were one of them who probably got a
kick out of that.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
But it doesn't get a kick out of it.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
And I didn't get a kick out of it. I
just said, the guys going to say what he wants
to say.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, so right, but but.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Then it doesn't bother men, and well it doesn't bother you.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
But I guarantee you there will be people in the
middle who probably are going to say to me at
some point later tonight. Look, uh and there have been
people who said, last hour, I agree with him, he's
a good president. Laurie uh from uh Fall River.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Is the alternative. The alternative.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
The alternative is you don't dignify. You don't dignify, and
dignify nothing. Dan, Okay, you know what, Bill, go right ahead.
You know, look, if you're a loyal caller, I respect
your opinion, but I'm going to give you. I'm going
to give you thirty seconds to say what you want
to say. I tried my best to have a conversation,
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but I don't think I don't think we can do
that tonight. So go ahead, say what you want to say.
I'm going to listen.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Okay. Now, he obviously doesn't think that these people are
going to be shot. Okay, what he's what he's trying
to do is just tell him, hey, listen, I've had
enough of this I'm not going to put up with it,
and he says what he wants to say. Now, these
these these democrats are trying to sew doubt inside our
inside our troops. That's a bad, bad thing because alls
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it takes is about a five second delay for somebody
on an aircraft Harry not to shoot an incoming and
whatever it is coming at aircraft carrier. Everybody thinks an
aircraft carrier is not vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Is vulnerables?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Hell with some of the some of the stuff that
got Okay, Bill.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I gave you thirty seconds uninterrupted. The next time we talk,
I'm sure we'll have a better conversation. It's as simple
as that. If I don't like to do this to you,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna say good night, I appreciate
your call, have a good one. Okay, we're gonna go next.
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I'm gonna go to I Leen in Waltham. I lean
you in next to Nightside, looking for conversation, folks, Go
right ahead, Eileen.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Okay, good evening.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Dad.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
My reaction to that was comments by those democrats even
was before Trump said anything, and my thing was, are
they being seditious? I mean, that was my personal reaction
I had Trump had not said anything, nobody had said anything,
was right after they said it.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
And that was my reaction.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
What are they doing?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
But but they were exercising this, they were exercising. I
hate to be in the position because I think what
they did, what they did, what they did on I
guess was Wednesday, was just stupid. They made themselves look
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so so. The definition of sedition conduct or language inciting
rebellion against the authority of the state. That's one definition,
insurrection or rebellion. The third the raising of commotion in
a state, not amounting to insurrection, conduct tending to treason,
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but without an overt act excitement or discontent against the government,
or of resistance to a lawful authority. There's none of
that there. They basically said to members of the military.
I think inappropriately. I think it was insulting to the
members of the military. It would be as if they
did a one and a half minute statement to said, look,
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when you put your uniform on tomorrow, don't forget to
pull on your pants because we don't walk you. We
don't want you walking around in your skivies. I would
bet that members of the military were insulted by those comments,
and the President today by invoking the even the imagery
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of hanging someone or giving them the death penalty for
what is clearly their right. People we have, we have
an inalienable right in America to be stupid and to
be stupid publicly and to say stupid things. And and
he's if he.
Speaker 10 (14:52):
Had said something that I these these these gentle people,
these members of Congress, have exercised this First Amendment rights
to be stupid.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
To show the American people how unnecessary these comments were,
how juvenile these comments were. I'm not going to dignify
with the response except us to make all of you
understand that they are simply exercising their right to be
stupid under the First Amendment end of statement. Do you
think that would have been more effective? Or now?
Speaker 8 (15:26):
I probably would have not said anything. But my reaction,
my personal reaction is are they encouraging sedition? And I
think it was totally irresponsible behavior on their boots, and
they have in their position they should be more responsible.
I was reading as your program came on something from
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a friend of mine who who I'm involved with the
anti sympotism thing, and she said, Democrats and Republicans, you
are so so busy bickering among yourselves that mortal enemies
are taking advantage. Refuse that you unite is rewarding the
most inhumane actors on Earth. And I think this behavior
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in Washington is certainly endangering all of us.
Speaker 11 (16:11):
Well.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I don't expect the Democrats to support Donald Trump any
more than I expected the Republicans to support Barack Obama.
But there was a principle that was followed in this
country by Democrats and Republicans for decades, for a couple
of centuries, that any disagreement over foreign policy, conversation about
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that stops at our shores, Meaning we might disagree with
what a president wants to do or what a president says,
but generally we keep that disagreement amongst ourselves polite or
keep it polite. There are US military personnel who now
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tonight are in harm's way off the coast of Venezuela.
I don't think Donald Trump's gonna. I may I may
be proved proven wrong. I don't think Donald Trump wants
to invade Pennsylvania rather Venezuela. He might invade Pennsylvania, but
not Venezuela. Okay, I think he's truly hoping that there
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will be an amongst Venezuelans and that they will take
Maduro out themselves. They have a fifty million dollar bounty
on his Moduro's head.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
And I mean, Trump, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I'm sorry, I get interrupted.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Trump.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Trump has demonstrated his shall we say, the resolve to
try to bring peace everywhere, not to create wars.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I would agree with that. I think he is. He's
more a peacemaker than a warmonger.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah, And I think.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
So.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
I think that's important to keep in mind. He's not
all of a sudden going to go jump into a war.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah. I mean, I think.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Over the place.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I think the former vice president who who was buried today,
Dick Cheney, uh was it was an incursionist and he certainly,
I think, led a lot of activity in the Middle
East if it was unnecessary.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
I think I think, well, he had been CEO of Bellaburton,
so he had been on the on the war longer force, right.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And and I think that Trump is a different breed
of cats, simple as that. And I just I'm just
saying that I think that his response today was unnecessary.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
When I saw the Saudi Arabia stuff today, it just
strust me is that the way to piece is to
make it rewarded for people economically who for everybody to
work together. And I think that was what you saw
with the Saudis in the last few days and the
different reaches across the aisle every way. Yeah, well, hopefully
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that will come to fluition because it was dangerous the world.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
What happened to Kasoji is unacceptable, There's no question about that. Okay. However,
what do they expect Donald Trump to do to bring
the head of Saudi Arabia into the White House and then, uh,
you know, dress him down, lecture him, tell him we
want nothing to do with him. No, he's we.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
Need to help with peace in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
He needs absolutely If he can get Saudi Arabia to
recognize the nation of Israel, that will be a tremendous
step forward towards peace in the Middle East. I think
that is Look, Kasoji is dead. There's nothing we can
do about Kasoji. I'm more interested in what the role
of the Saudis were in nine to eleven. To be
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really honest with you, Okay, Kasoji Kassoji, I believe was
a dual citizen. I believe that he was a citizen
of of Saudi Arabia as well as the United States.
And here was a columnist for the for the Washington Post.
I might be wrong on that. And if I'm wrong
on that, I'm sure someone will correct me on that.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
I'm sure they will.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Okay, trust me on that. There's no doubt. I got good,
good listeners out there, all right. I lean them. I'm
gonna let you go. I hope you feel you head you.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
I'm a good life to make your points.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Thanks much, talk to you soon, good night. Six one seven, two,
five four, ten thirty. One line there. I don't understand
why people will wait to get on at six one seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty and they will ignore six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. Both of those lines are open.
So the question is, and I'm looking for people either
to criticize Donald Trump or defend him, criticize the Democrats
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or defend them. And when I talk about the Democrats,
I'm about talking about the six who issued this combined,
highly edited, highly produced, one minute and twenty three second
audio video yesterday. I've played it. I can't show it
to you. You could go look at it yourself if
you like coming back on night Side Only, Line six
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one seven, Nightside.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
With Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
All right, let's keep it rolling. You're going to go
to Wilton down on Long Island. We'll love to know
what you're thinking about this.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Oh man, Dan, you know that I am no Trump loyalists, Okay,
but yet there are plenty of times where I will
vehemently and unapologetically support the president.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Now, my biggest problem with what the Democrats did was,
especially ones in the military that know better.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Was that there's a risk of refusal for orders.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Okay, according to the Uniform Military UH Justice Code, Article.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Ninety two, you bet right, you better be right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Well, but even if you're not right, actually refusing an order,
even if later deemed unlawful, can still result in punishment
and court martial Number one, number two. What evidence do
you have that it is unlawful for the president to
command the military and put them in hostile conflict, especially
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with the War Powers Act that he has six he
has to give Congress forty eight hours notice, and he
has sixty days to put our troops in this hostile
engagement with the enemy, and then he has another.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Thirty days for withdrawal.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So by you implying, just by the implication by members
of the military, that these orders are unlawful. Now I'm
a free speech purist. Do you understand that you know that? Okay?
I almost think no speech is illegal.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And for members of the military, though there's a different
code for them, Okay, for you to just suggest that
these lads our orders are unlawful when they probably aren't.
Actually is I'm not gonna say treason, but you're really
you're really teetering on offensive. What if the soldiers when
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we were storming the beaches of Normandy said, you know what,
there's a really risky uh mission, we're storming a beach
that they obviously have fortified.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
We're gonna Obviously they would have been court martial. They
might have been shot on site. I don't know. But no, Look,
I understand the point you're making. The difference we have
is this. I don't think that when they did there
was a highly scripted statement. You heard it. They knew
what they were saying, they knew what they were doing.
All they were doing. They didn't cite anything. They never said. Look,
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if you're if you remember the National Guard and and
and you want to refuse to go uh to a city. Uh,
and you're we we we will support you. That gets
into a different realm there. They didn't. They may have
implied uh, But.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I understand the line there tipped. I understand it clearly
more than probably most people.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But I will say.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
This, besides that, besides the legal implication of what I
think members of the military did in that statement. Okay,
besides that, let's put that aside for a moment. What
country could you see that's about to be engaged in
conflict when you have members of the military urging other
members to possibly not follow orders. Can you see that
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happening in China?
Speaker 11 (24:27):
Can you see that happening in Russia?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
In other other countries?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
That's why we're different and bettered by the way these people,
to the best of my knowledge, I don't think any
of them are active duty or reserved duty members of
the military at this point. I believe they're all.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Well, they still have they still have, you know, probably
military benefits and military pay and pensions which could be
subject to forfeiture if they were found guilty of some
type of crime and some type of court martial.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I mean, you literally you're assuming there's a crime here. Look,
you're the first Amendment absolute is by the way, you know,
people can sue, can sue for slander. Uh, they can
sue for libel, they can sue for defamation. Uh. Fighting word.
I talked up the street and start a fight. Uh,
and say, let's you know, the fighting words.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
The defense to all of those things though the truth, right, yeah,
the defense and libel is the truth. Well, I don't
think the truth was spoken here. I don't think that
you're telling them that you could.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
You're in a subject if I say, I know that
Will is an embezzler, and I know that Will at
one point in his life worked for I'm making this
up Will, by the way. And if I knew that
at some point, uh, I believe Will might have worked
for a bank, and I know he's the type of
guy that would have embezzled. If if I'm shooting wild
there and and and you're not a you're not a
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public figure. I got problems. I got problems, you know
as well as I do. The first mems not absolute.
We can come back to the shouting fire in the theater.
You get it. You understand that these stayed away I
want to focus. You're a Trump supporter. How dumb was
it for him today to invoke the specter of a
death penalty? Tell me the truth?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Okay, well, I'm not necessarily a supporter. I looked at
the election, remember me, and you spoke about it before.
I said, it's a choice between shooting yourself and the.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Header and the footing the foot's How dumb was it
then for him to invoke the specter of treason's edition
at the death penalty and maybe even hanging.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Absolutely absurd, But it's not the most absurd thing I've
ever heard him say.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
Okay, but I will say this, do you agree?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Let's start with just do you agree with the military
action being taken possibly against Venezuela. I was literally there
when the USS gerald Ford pulled up into the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Over there.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I was getting on a plane leaving their neighbor of Columbia,
which actually I believe is the target at the end
of this. But he's a democratically elected leader, so the
excuse will be Maduro. But the target is Columbia. Okay,
there their cocaine production is.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I'm glad to know that you got home safely, by
the way, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
That was a scary moment there for a second. I'm like,
if this guy starts firing missiles in here, no planes
are gonna leave out of Bogata or anywhere else in
this region. And I'm gonna have to be stuck in
this country while I have a communist president here.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I'm glad you got home, but you know, we'll I
got pack lines and I got to keep rolling. Everybody,
all right, man talk.
Speaker 11 (27:25):
We had a conversation.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I didn't fight with you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It was great. We had a good conversation. I liked it.
Thank you much. Good night. Let me go to Susan
in Wealthy and Susan your next night side. Welcome, Hi Dan,
how are you good? Susan? Welcome.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
I just called to say hello and let you know
I'm listening to you every night. And you know you
probably know that by now with all the text messages.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Sure, yeah, I appreciate that, Susan. Any night that you
want to call in and tell me what you think
about anything, You're always welcome, you know that.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
All right, Thank you, thanks, thank you. I just wanted
to say hi.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Well, I appreciate I appreciate a friendly call as well
as I appreciate a challenging call, so it doesn't matter.
It's always good to hear your voice. Thank you much. Okay,
all right, good night. Let me go next to Patrick
is in Charles Tom Patrick, you were next one. I said,
welcome Patrick.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Dan L how are you doing. I'm you know, you
know the problem is, Dan, is this The problem is
that you're the ultimate gentleman. Okay, that's the problem.
Speaker 9 (28:33):
That's the problem.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Okay, it's not a it's it is in this context.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That's either way. That's not the worst thing I've ever
been accused of. Thank you for It.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Is a dividing line. It is a dividing line between
you and Donald Trump. You frequently over the years I'm
listening many times you get upset when he does something brash.
You get upset when when he when he does the
equivalent of breaking a but life bottle over someone's in
a bar. That's what he does. He's a street fight man,
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damn and and people are sick and tired of the
false finger wagging coming from people like Elizabeth Larren and
left wing lunatics who dominate our colleges, who dominate the newspaper,
who dominate the television in so many other areas of
our life, finger wagging at us with moral indignation. We're
(29:27):
sick of it, We're tired of it. We don't want
to hear about it anymore. And you know what, when
he tells them what it is, betraying the best interest
in the United States, the silent majority is a plot
and a man.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Let me ask you this. Yeah, I'm talking a little
bit of combination of decorum and and and political wisdom. Okay,
all right, So the question is this, Clearly what he
says today did not bother you. And I understand that,
(30:06):
and I respect that, okay, But in terms of that
great middle of America, people who like him on a
lot of things, maybe I'm thrilled with them on some
other things, feel that maybe prices haven't come down as
quick as they would they would have liked whatever who
were just a little there's still making up their minds
on Donald Trump. Maybe a year from now they'll love
(30:28):
him because the stock market will be through the roof
or whatever. Do you think that invoking the image the
specter of the death penalty, in your opinion, is going
to help him with the folks in the middle. I
mean the folks who don't like him are never going
to be persuaded. He could bring peace to America, cure cancer.
We've talked about that absolutely, but the folks in the
(30:52):
middle from a political point of view, was that smart
for him to do that? Today?
Speaker 6 (30:57):
An a line, I think it was. I think that
people fed up, and I think those finger waggers, I
think that they have a disproportionate influence of the media
and the ability to get their voice out, and the
vast majority of the people are absolutely sick and tired
of them. And to tell our military to disobey orders, okay,
is one of the most disgusting things that a person
(31:19):
can go the.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Pat Patrick, I don't mean they were smart enough to
say that you can disobey illegal orders, so let's just
make sure accurate and what they said, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
I agree, But that was that was a winking enough.
This is what they intended to do. This is what
they intended to do. What they intended to do was
inspire a few people to do the equivalent of burn
their draft card in their uniform, right, and CNN and
the New York Times's going to pick them up and
they're going to plaster them all over the television, and
then they're going to try to have those people. They're
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going to applaud them all the lefts are gonna applaud
them all over TV in the news, and then they're
going to try to inspire other people to walk out.
They're trying to a movement, right, that's the first that's
what they're trying to do, and everyone sees right through it.
And the second part is they are announcing, in my opinion,
in my opinion, they have the intent to prosecute when
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they take power over. For even people like ice officers.
I think they're saying, you have the chance right now
to disobey orders, and if you don't, we're going to
prosecute you. I think that's what they that's where they're
going with this with the ice officers. I think that's
what they're doing, Dan, all those noble ice officers who
are defending our country are going to get prosecuted by
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these people. That's what they're announcing.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, you might be right, but I will tell you
that if they were, if they ever attempted to do
that on my watch, and I can only speak for me,
I would stand shoulder to shoulder with you and condemn that.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
These are the same people who wired fifty one so
called intelligence officers to say that the Hunter died in laptop.
Story was a lot when anybody who had access to
the Internet could see Hunter Biden doing the most most
terrible things and pictures of it plastic. They live, they
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live American people. This stuff was visible to everybody.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But again they were Patrick, They they the fifty one
were cute. What they said, this has the the earmarks
of a Russian disinformation campaign.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
There the same type of language.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
They just you, I'm agreeing with you. I'm agreeing with you,
but I'm also just trying to be precise and specific,
and I'm I'm not trying to be a gentleman. I'm
a gentleman with you, but I'm trying to I'm trying
to be precise. I think one of the best calls, Patrick,
one of the best, one of the best calls of
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the night. Okay, and I thank you for joining the conversation.
But I got three more behind you, and I got you.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Would make a great press secretary for Donald Trump. He
he's a guy like you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well, I think I think that he would. He would
do well to have someone I wish that today he
could have.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Trued that what he won, you could translate. You could
translate what he needs. It's a polite English language.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
No, he needs a sense of humor too. And again
there's a million ways if Ronald Reagan had that ability,
oh shocks, you know, there he goes again. I'm not
going to question his youth and inexperience. Uh. And he
just knew how to time it well. And that's the
one thing that Trump seems to be uncapable of. Have
a you know, have a sense of humor. And you
(34:37):
can dismiss people with humor a lot more than you
than than you can with words that that are really
empty words. Patrick, love you call me man. Thank you so much,
as always taught you. Soon have a good one. Good night. Okay,
we're getting everybody in. Linda, John and BJ you guys
stay right there. We're heading home. We're going to get
them all in. Thank you for the calls tonight. It's
(34:59):
been busy. I've been the calls. Thank you. You make
my job a little easier by joining the conversation. I
thank you much. Coming back on night.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Shob you're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Getting everybody in Linda and Weymouth. Hey, Linda next on Nightside.
Speaker 12 (35:16):
Go right ahead, Hi Dan, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
You're very welcome.
Speaker 12 (35:22):
So I understand that.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
You want.
Speaker 12 (35:25):
Us to respond to Donald Trump's response to what the
Democrats said about.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
That's kind of what we're talking about. I think that
I'll be interested what you thought. I thought he would
have been better to handle it with some humor as
opposed to implying death penalty.
Speaker 12 (35:43):
Yes, I have to agree with you on that. But
knowing Donald Trump, and we all know him, we all
know how he responds to things. I think that the
Democrats know too, and I think this was more of
a way to rile him up and to get and
to get a response that they knew he was gonna
(36:05):
Joe and and I'm not saying what he his response
was was right. I think he went a little bit extreme.
But with Donald Trump, in my opinion, is no gray.
It's either black or white with him.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, he basically got played.
Speaker 12 (36:22):
He fell into their trap exactly exactly.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
And he needs either family members or staff around him
to say, you know, he could have said, look, maybe
you saw this, uh, this insane statement by by these Democrats.
They have no clue what they're talking about. I'm the
commander in chief. I issue the orders. I guarantee you
(36:53):
the orders that I issue will be in the best
interest of this nation and this country. You know it
could have come up with, spent a little to talk
up with something a lot more proactive and positive and
and even perhaps have a note of humor in there.
Lydia as always, thank you, I got a bunch of
I got two other calls. We're going to try to
get to here as well. Thanks so much again tonight.
(37:13):
I really appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Tonight.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Have a great Thanksgiving. If we don't talk between now
and Thursday, and hopefully we will, okay, we.
Speaker 12 (37:22):
Will, we will. Thank you, Daniel, good night.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Let me go to BJ and ACT and BJ next
on nights. I got room for you and also John
and Waltham.
Speaker 9 (37:30):
Go ahead, BJ, Yes, Dan, I uh, I think that
going after the Narco terrorists is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I agree with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
Yeah. However, I think that this massive deployment of National
Guard and ICE in US cities is another matter. I
think that uh, Donald Trump has been known to do
it'll leave things and that I and therefore I think
that a public reminder about refusing illegal orders is perfectly appropriate.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Okay, I disagree with you, but that's fine. By the way.
I also think that what he's doing in cities is
going to renew to his benefit because a lot of
people who live in cities live with a great deal
of fear. And I think that the National Guard is
going to cast out a good job in Washington, a
good job in Memphis, a good job in Portland, and
(38:32):
a good job in Chicago. Again, I think that those
mayors are incapable. Did you see the story about the
woman who was lit on fire on a Chicago commuter
train yesterday?
Speaker 9 (38:46):
I'm afraid I missed that.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, there was a guy who had a he had
He had a glass of a bottle of gasoline. He
poured it over her and lit her on fire. She's
in critical condition. He is fifty year old guy, I
guess who has been in an of the courts dozens
of times since nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 9 (39:03):
I just don't think the answer to that is this
massive National Guard and Ice deployment.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I think you disagree.
Speaker 9 (39:11):
Some night, a lot of fear and people, why don't
we do this?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I will talk about that, I'm sure in the next
week or so, and we'll have a longer conversation. I
don't think I can give it, give you enough time
in the because they only have two minutes left. So
let's let's pick up on next time we chat, okay,
because I think it'll be a good conversation. Thanks b
J keep thank you, damn thank you much. Let me
(39:36):
go to John and Waldam. John, you got the final
word of the night, right ahead.
Speaker 11 (39:39):
John, Thank you for taking my dog.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (39:42):
You know I'm a trump man.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yep.
Speaker 11 (39:44):
You brought up one a wagon run a wagon shot
from the hip, and so doesn't Trump anyhow, he shot guts.
Trump's got guts. He should have never said that. But
he's only youman. You know. I saw this guy the
other night in the supermarket mocket basket, got a T shirt.
I said, Silence wins. Anyhow, Uh, silence wins.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Maybe sometimes silence is okay, But I don't know that.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
He looked at me, right. He nodded his head. He
looked right at me at the register.
Speaker 9 (40:16):
Right.
Speaker 11 (40:16):
I nodded it back. And anyhow, silence wins. But Reagan
tom shoes from the hips. He's got guts all right, all.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Right, John, I appreciate your calling. I hope things are
good to Walthame tonight. All right, my friend will.
Speaker 11 (40:31):
Talk all right, Daniel. I hope the buve Ben your
market back and Walt Now I'll get your copy in
the sandwich.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
You got it. I'll look forward to that. Thanks John, Thanks,
talk to you later again. Have a good night. All right.
We are done for the night. Friday is right around
the corner. We'll get to We'll see you tomorrow night
at eight o'clock. I'm gonna be on Facebook Night Side
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, so we were talking about the podcast that was
released yesterday of six Democrats basically reminding us military personnel
as if they need a reminder of their responsibility under
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the Uniform Code of Military Justice the UCMJ. They don't,
they don't. So I think what the Democrats did yesterday
was gratuitous. I think that what the President did today
in responding was superfluous. And I mean it just shows
that where are the adults? Where are the adults here?
(00:51):
I'm going to play so people know what we're talking about.
These are six Democratic lawmakers, all of whom have military
service or, in the case of one, having worked for
the CIA. Today, President Trump accused these six of essentially treason, treason,
(01:14):
and sedition, saying, amongst other things, that they the penalty
is death. I mean, he's just he can't control himself.
The six Democrats Congressman Chris Deluzio, he's from Pennsylvania. Senator
Elisa Slotkin, she worked for the CIA. She's from Michigan.
(01:39):
Representative Chrissy Hulihan from Pennsylvania. Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona,
former astronaut Navy commander. Congresswoman Maggie Goodland are from New
Hampshire and Congressman Jason crow from Colorado. I'm going to
have Rob play in just a second cut number thirty one.
This is what started this latest war of words. Cut
(02:01):
thirty one. Rub. I'm Senator Alissa Stockin, Senator Mark Kelly,
Representative Chris Deluzios.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Congressman Mayu Goodlander, Representative Chrissy Hulahan, Congressman Jason Crowe.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I was a captain in the United States Navy, former
CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper and Army ranger, former
intelligence officer.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Former Air Force.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
We want to speak directly to members of the military.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
And the intelligence community to take risks each day keep
Americans safe.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Americans trust their military, but that.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Trust is at risk. This administration is pitting our uniform,
military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like us.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You all swore an oath.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
To protect them this constitution. Right now, the threats to
our constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right
here at home.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. You
can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You must refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No one has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
We know this is hard and that it's a difficult
time to be a public servant. But whether you're serving
in the CIA, the Army, or Navy, the Air Force,
your vigilance is critical. And know that we have your
back because now more than ever, the American people need you.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
We need you to stand up for our laws, for constitution,
and who we are as Americans.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Don't give up.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Don't give up.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Don't give up.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Don't give up the ship.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Unnecessary, provocative, not helpful. And today President Trump doubled down
by suggesting that them making an unnecessary, provocative set of
comments yesterday somehow was treasonous and seditious, and the penalties
(03:49):
for that would be up to and including death. And
as a matter of fact, when he jumped today, he said,
seditious behavior punishable by death. Hang them. George Washington would,
first of all, he can't help himself. He just cannot
help himself. Let's go to the phones. I'm holding Donna over. Donna,
(04:13):
give you a couple of minutes here to pull your
thoughts together. Go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
I never did this before. I never thought I was
going to be going to bed with the nay. But
I'm under the covers now, that's what.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, Uh, Donna, A lot of women have told me
that in my life. Okay, the road, Okay.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
I think what we were saying.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Why, First of all, since sometimes bulls don't start listening
till eleven, I want to repeat how I don't think
Donald Trump has any character. That's why I can't vote
for him.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh, we got that, We got that. Don't need to repeat.
You've made yourself clear on that point. Go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Okay. What we were talking about was I meant him
that Mark Esper said a prayer and.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Wet and we doubt we dealt with that.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
We don't know, but you didn't. But you know, homos
all gone. Dan, you didn't tell me why you thought
it was long for him to say that.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I did tell you that. I did tell you that.
I said that. When there's a comment made to trusted Aid,
I think he was the Secretary of Defense at the time.
With the president some discretion. There has to be some
adult in the room who recognizes you just don't use uh,
you don't leak conversations you have with a president of
(05:36):
the United States. You know, you just don't do that.
It's as simple as that. If you what you should do, what.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
You should do.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
What you should do is resign your office. Resign your office,
and then tell your story. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Well, if that's true, we would.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Have been spared a lot of grief if Nixon's people
talked about what Nixon was doing.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Or resign your office. If you're somebody who has character,
you resign your office, and then you can say why
you resign your office. But you don't maintain a relationship
with the president of the United States, and and and
and talk to somebody over the phone quietly and say
You'll never guess what he said to me. He said,
can we shoot them in the legs? You can't quote
(06:28):
me on that, or maybe you can quote me on that.
I don't really care about it, but you heard that.
I mean, come on, yeah, I'm done with that. I'm
done with that. I've made it pretty clear what I think.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Oh, I disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think I would expect you to. That's what this
show is all about.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Yeah, that's why I think telling the nations is more
important than the president that you're working for the country itself.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Is more important than whoever's president, and you're serving with them.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
All right, fair enough, I'm gonna let you go to sleep.
You can continue to listen. Keep even if you're gonna
go to sleep, Remember keep the radio on. Okay, it's
good for the ratings. All right, all right, thank you,
don I have a great night. Uh. We will take
a break one line at six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. We got a couple at six one seven,
(07:22):
nine three one ten thirty. I will I want to
hear from you. Look, if you're a Trump supporter and
you think that his response today was perfectly appropriate, feel free.
I don't think that anyone who's gonna say it was
perfectly appropriate. If you're a Trump supporter and you have
some guts, you can call up and you can tell
me you still like Trump, you still like his positions,
but you think that he needs to calm it down. Okay,
(07:44):
he does not have to respond, first of all, in
that manner. Uh, to members of Congress, they represent one
one fifth of one percent. That's what a congressional district represents.
About one fifth of or one quarter of one percent,
(08:04):
if you want to be generous, he represents the entire country.
He's wasting his time doing that, and as a matter
of fact, he basically they gave him a victory yesterday.
In my opinion, the public probably overall would be critical
of what the Democrats did yesterday. Now they're even more
critical of him calling for the death penalty or even
(08:25):
implying the death penalty. We'll take a break, coming right back.
He got the lines. Dial in back after this.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's Night Side with Dan on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Back to the phones we go again, looking to hear
from people who want to defend the president. I think
he's dead wrong. I think that him not to understand it. Look,
the so called loyal opposition, they can say whatever they
want to say. For him, to suggest a sedition or treason,
way over the top, way over the top, death penalty,
(08:58):
I mean, why go there, Why go there? People are
going to laugh at you, mister President. Bill in Pennsylvania,
Bill next on Nightside.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Right ahead, Hey, thanks for taking my call down. I
don't think anybody's laughing at the president. I think that
if George Washington was in the same situation, Yes, these
people will be taken out and shot, because that's what
they did back in those days. So why so.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So you you recognize that times are different, you have.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Sure tis sure the times you basically have.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Been given the Democrats yesterday gave him the high ground.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Okay, somebody they care about having the high ground. That's
one thing that everybody needs to understand. The guy's got
about three more years in there. He knows that that's
the end of it. He doesn't care what his ratings are.
And he's taken so many punches from these people low
low blows all right, hitler, fascist everything, racist president that's
(09:59):
worse than anything on somebody who raises and he just
had enough of it. So he's not playing the game.
And these uh, these Democrats should be ashamed of themselves
because what they're doing. Okay, he's all he's doing.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Bill, Bill, I understand you are a Trump loyalist, and
I respect you for that. Okay, you have never been
ever criticized, to the best of my knowledge, Donald Trump,
which is fine. I'm telling you that there are people
in the middle, not the loyal members of his base,
and you were one of them who probably got a
kick out of that.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
But it doesn't get a kick out of it.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
And I didn't get a kick out of it. I
just said, the guys going to say what he wants
to say.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, so right, but but.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Then it doesn't bother men, and well it doesn't bother you.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
But I guarantee you there will be people in the
middle who probably are going to say to me at
some point later tonight. Look, uh and there have been
people who said, last hour, I agree with him, he's
a good president. Laurie uh from uh Fall River.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Is the alternative. The alternative.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
The alternative is you don't dignify. You don't dignify, and
dignify nothing. Dan, Okay, you know what, Bill, go right ahead.
You know, look, if you're a loyal caller, I respect
your opinion, but I'm going to give you. I'm going
to give you thirty seconds to say what you want
to say. I tried my best to have a conversation,
(11:24):
but I don't think I don't think we can do
that tonight. So go ahead, say what you want to say.
I'm going to listen.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Okay. Now, he obviously doesn't think that these people are
going to be shot. Okay, what he's what he's trying
to do is just tell him, hey, listen, I've had
enough of this I'm not going to put up with it,
and he says what he wants to say. Now, these
these these democrats are trying to sew doubt inside our
inside our troops. That's a bad, bad thing because alls
(11:52):
it takes is about a five second delay for somebody
on an aircraft Harry not to shoot an incoming and
whatever it is coming at aircraft carrier. Everybody thinks an
aircraft carrier is not vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Is vulnerables?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Hell with some of the some of the stuff that
got Okay, Bill.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I gave you thirty seconds uninterrupted. The next time we talk,
I'm sure we'll have a better conversation. It's as simple
as that. If I don't like to do this to you,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna say good night, I appreciate
your call, have a good one. Okay, we're gonna go next.
(12:31):
I'm gonna go to I Leen in Waltham. I lean
you in next to Nightside, looking for conversation, folks, Go
right ahead, Eileen.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Okay, good evening.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Dad.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
My reaction to that was comments by those democrats even
was before Trump said anything, and my thing was, are
they being seditious? I mean, that was my personal reaction
I had Trump had not said anything, nobody had said anything,
was right after they said it.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
And that was my reaction.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
What are they doing?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
But but they were exercising this, they were exercising. I
hate to be in the position because I think what
they did, what they did, what they did on I
guess was Wednesday, was just stupid. They made themselves look
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so so. The definition of sedition conduct or language inciting
rebellion against the authority of the state. That's one definition,
insurrection or rebellion. The third the raising of commotion in
a state, not amounting to insurrection, conduct tending to treason,
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but without an overt act excitement or discontent against the government,
or of resistance to a lawful authority. There's none of
that there. They basically said to members of the military.
I think inappropriately. I think it was insulting to the
members of the military. It would be as if they
did a one and a half minute statement to said, look,
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when you put your uniform on tomorrow, don't forget to
pull on your pants because we don't walk you. We
don't want you walking around in your skivies. I would
bet that members of the military were insulted by those comments,
and the President today by invoking the even the imagery
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of hanging someone or giving them the death penalty for
what is clearly their right. People we have, we have
an inalienable right in America to be stupid and to
be stupid publicly and to say stupid things. And and
he's if he.
Speaker 10 (14:52):
Had said something that I these these these gentle people,
these members of Congress, have exercised this First Amendment rights
to be stupid.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
To show the American people how unnecessary these comments were,
how juvenile these comments were. I'm not going to dignify
with the response except us to make all of you
understand that they are simply exercising their right to be
stupid under the First Amendment end of statement. Do you
think that would have been more effective? Or now?
Speaker 8 (15:26):
I probably would have not said anything. But my reaction,
my personal reaction is are they encouraging sedition? And I
think it was totally irresponsible behavior on their boots, and
they have in their position they should be more responsible.
I was reading as your program came on something from
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a friend of mine who who I'm involved with the
anti sympotism thing, and she said, Democrats and Republicans, you
are so so busy bickering among yourselves that mortal enemies
are taking advantage. Refuse that you unite is rewarding the
most inhumane actors on Earth. And I think this behavior
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in Washington is certainly endangering all of us.
Speaker 11 (16:11):
Well.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I don't expect the Democrats to support Donald Trump any
more than I expected the Republicans to support Barack Obama.
But there was a principle that was followed in this
country by Democrats and Republicans for decades, for a couple
of centuries, that any disagreement over foreign policy, conversation about
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that stops at our shores, Meaning we might disagree with
what a president wants to do or what a president says,
but generally we keep that disagreement amongst ourselves polite or
keep it polite. There are US military personnel who now
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tonight are in harm's way off the coast of Venezuela.
I don't think Donald Trump's gonna. I may I may
be proved proven wrong. I don't think Donald Trump wants
to invade Pennsylvania rather Venezuela. He might invade Pennsylvania, but
not Venezuela. Okay, I think he's truly hoping that there
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will be an amongst Venezuelans and that they will take
Maduro out themselves. They have a fifty million dollar bounty
on his Moduro's head.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
And I mean, Trump, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I'm sorry, I get interrupted.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Trump.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Trump has demonstrated his shall we say, the resolve to
try to bring peace everywhere, not to create wars.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I would agree with that. I think he is. He's
more a peacemaker than a warmonger.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah, And I think.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
So.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
I think that's important to keep in mind. He's not
all of a sudden going to go jump into a war.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah. I mean, I think.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Over the place.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I think the former vice president who who was buried today,
Dick Cheney, uh was it was an incursionist and he certainly,
I think, led a lot of activity in the Middle
East if it was unnecessary.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
I think I think, well, he had been CEO of Bellaburton,
so he had been on the on the war longer force, right.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And and I think that Trump is a different breed
of cats, simple as that. And I just I'm just
saying that I think that his response today was unnecessary.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
When I saw the Saudi Arabia stuff today, it just
strust me is that the way to piece is to
make it rewarded for people economically who for everybody to
work together. And I think that was what you saw
with the Saudis in the last few days and the
different reaches across the aisle every way. Yeah, well, hopefully
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that will come to fluition because it was dangerous the world.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
What happened to Kasoji is unacceptable, There's no question about that. Okay. However,
what do they expect Donald Trump to do to bring
the head of Saudi Arabia into the White House and then, uh,
you know, dress him down, lecture him, tell him we
want nothing to do with him. No, he's we.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
Need to help with peace in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
He needs absolutely If he can get Saudi Arabia to
recognize the nation of Israel, that will be a tremendous
step forward towards peace in the Middle East. I think
that is Look, Kasoji is dead. There's nothing we can
do about Kasoji. I'm more interested in what the role
of the Saudis were in nine to eleven. To be
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really honest with you, Okay, Kasoji Kassoji, I believe was
a dual citizen. I believe that he was a citizen
of of Saudi Arabia as well as the United States.
And here was a columnist for the for the Washington Post.
I might be wrong on that. And if I'm wrong
on that, I'm sure someone will correct me on that.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
I'm sure they will.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Okay, trust me on that. There's no doubt. I got good,
good listeners out there, all right. I lean them. I'm
gonna let you go. I hope you feel you head you.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
I'm a good life to make your points.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Thanks much, talk to you soon, good night. Six one seven, two,
five four, ten thirty. One line there. I don't understand
why people will wait to get on at six one seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty and they will ignore six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. Both of those lines are open.
So the question is, and I'm looking for people either
to criticize Donald Trump or defend him, criticize the Democrats
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or defend them. And when I talk about the Democrats,
I'm about talking about the six who issued this combined,
highly edited, highly produced, one minute and twenty three second
audio video yesterday. I've played it. I can't show it
to you. You could go look at it yourself if
you like coming back on night Side Only, Line six
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one seven, Nightside.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
With Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
All right, let's keep it rolling. You're going to go
to Wilton down on Long Island. We'll love to know
what you're thinking about this.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Oh man, Dan, you know that I am no Trump loyalists, Okay,
but yet there are plenty of times where I will
vehemently and unapologetically support the president.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Now, my biggest problem with what the Democrats did was,
especially ones in the military that know better.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Was that there's a risk of refusal for orders.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Okay, according to the Uniform Military UH Justice Code, Article.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Ninety two, you bet right, you better be right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Well, but even if you're not right, actually refusing an order,
even if later deemed unlawful, can still result in punishment
and court martial Number one, number two. What evidence do
you have that it is unlawful for the president to
command the military and put them in hostile conflict, especially
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with the War Powers Act that he has six he
has to give Congress forty eight hours notice, and he
has sixty days to put our troops in this hostile
engagement with the enemy, and then he has another.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Thirty days for withdrawal.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So by you implying, just by the implication by members
of the military, that these orders are unlawful. Now I'm
a free speech purist. Do you understand that you know that? Okay?
I almost think no speech is illegal.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And for members of the military, though there's a different
code for them, Okay, for you to just suggest that
these lads our orders are unlawful when they probably aren't.
Actually is I'm not gonna say treason, but you're really
you're really teetering on offensive. What if the soldiers when
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we were storming the beaches of Normandy said, you know what,
there's a really risky uh mission, we're storming a beach
that they obviously have fortified.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
We're gonna Obviously they would have been court martial. They
might have been shot on site. I don't know. But no, Look,
I understand the point you're making. The difference we have
is this. I don't think that when they did there
was a highly scripted statement. You heard it. They knew
what they were saying, they knew what they were doing.
All they were doing. They didn't cite anything. They never said. Look,
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if you're if you remember the National Guard and and
and you want to refuse to go uh to a city. Uh,
and you're we we we will support you. That gets
into a different realm there. They didn't. They may have
implied uh, But.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I understand the line there tipped. I understand it clearly
more than probably most people.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But I will say.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
This, besides that, besides the legal implication of what I
think members of the military did in that statement. Okay,
besides that, let's put that aside for a moment. What
country could you see that's about to be engaged in
conflict when you have members of the military urging other
members to possibly not follow orders. Can you see that
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happening in China?
Speaker 11 (24:27):
Can you see that happening in Russia?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
In other other countries?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
That's why we're different and bettered by the way these people,
to the best of my knowledge, I don't think any
of them are active duty or reserved duty members of
the military at this point. I believe they're all.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Well, they still have they still have, you know, probably
military benefits and military pay and pensions which could be
subject to forfeiture if they were found guilty of some
type of crime and some type of court martial.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I mean, you literally you're assuming there's a crime here. Look,
you're the first Amendment absolute is by the way, you know,
people can sue, can sue for slander. Uh, they can
sue for libel, they can sue for defamation. Uh. Fighting word.
I talked up the street and start a fight. Uh,
and say, let's you know, the fighting words.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
The defense to all of those things though the truth, right, yeah,
the defense and libel is the truth. Well, I don't
think the truth was spoken here. I don't think that
you're telling them that you could.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
You're in a subject if I say, I know that
Will is an embezzler, and I know that Will at
one point in his life worked for I'm making this
up Will, by the way. And if I knew that
at some point, uh, I believe Will might have worked
for a bank, and I know he's the type of
guy that would have embezzled. If if I'm shooting wild
there and and and you're not a you're not a
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public figure. I got problems. I got problems, you know
as well as I do. The first mems not absolute.
We can come back to the shouting fire in the theater.
You get it. You understand that these stayed away I
want to focus. You're a Trump supporter. How dumb was
it for him today to invoke the specter of a
death penalty? Tell me the truth?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Okay, well, I'm not necessarily a supporter. I looked at
the election, remember me, and you spoke about it before.
I said, it's a choice between shooting yourself and the.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Header and the footing the foot's How dumb was it
then for him to invoke the specter of treason's edition
at the death penalty and maybe even hanging.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Absolutely absurd, But it's not the most absurd thing I've
ever heard him say.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
Okay, but I will say this, do you agree?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Let's start with just do you agree with the military
action being taken possibly against Venezuela. I was literally there
when the USS gerald Ford pulled up into the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Over there.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I was getting on a plane leaving their neighbor of Columbia,
which actually I believe is the target at the end
of this. But he's a democratically elected leader, so the
excuse will be Maduro. But the target is Columbia. Okay,
there their cocaine production is.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I'm glad to know that you got home safely, by
the way, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
That was a scary moment there for a second. I'm like,
if this guy starts firing missiles in here, no planes
are gonna leave out of Bogata or anywhere else in
this region. And I'm gonna have to be stuck in
this country while I have a communist president here.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I'm glad you got home, but you know, we'll I
got pack lines and I got to keep rolling. Everybody,
all right, man talk.
Speaker 11 (27:25):
We had a conversation.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I didn't fight with you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It was great. We had a good conversation. I liked it.
Thank you much. Good night. Let me go to Susan
in Wealthy and Susan your next night side. Welcome, Hi Dan,
how are you good? Susan? Welcome.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
I just called to say hello and let you know
I'm listening to you every night. And you know you
probably know that by now with all the text messages.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Sure, yeah, I appreciate that, Susan. Any night that you
want to call in and tell me what you think
about anything, You're always welcome, you know that.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
All right, Thank you, thanks, thank you. I just wanted
to say hi.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Well, I appreciate I appreciate a friendly call as well
as I appreciate a challenging call, so it doesn't matter.
It's always good to hear your voice. Thank you much. Okay,
all right, good night. Let me go next to Patrick
is in Charles Tom Patrick, you were next one. I said,
welcome Patrick.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Dan L how are you doing. I'm you know, you
know the problem is, Dan, is this The problem is
that you're the ultimate gentleman. Okay, that's the problem.
Speaker 9 (28:33):
That's the problem.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Okay, it's not a it's it is in this context.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That's either way. That's not the worst thing I've ever
been accused of. Thank you for It.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Is a dividing line. It is a dividing line between
you and Donald Trump. You frequently over the years I'm
listening many times you get upset when he does something brash.
You get upset when when he when he does the
equivalent of breaking a but life bottle over someone's in
a bar. That's what he does. He's a street fight man,
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damn and and people are sick and tired of the
false finger wagging coming from people like Elizabeth Larren and
left wing lunatics who dominate our colleges, who dominate the newspaper,
who dominate the television in so many other areas of
our life, finger wagging at us with moral indignation. We're
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sick of it, We're tired of it. We don't want
to hear about it anymore. And you know what, when
he tells them what it is, betraying the best interest
in the United States, the silent majority is a plot
and a man.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Let me ask you this. Yeah, I'm talking a little
bit of combination of decorum and and and political wisdom. Okay,
all right, So the question is this, Clearly what he
says today did not bother you. And I understand that,
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and I respect that, okay, But in terms of that
great middle of America, people who like him on a
lot of things, maybe I'm thrilled with them on some
other things, feel that maybe prices haven't come down as
quick as they would they would have liked whatever who
were just a little there's still making up their minds
on Donald Trump. Maybe a year from now they'll love
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him because the stock market will be through the roof
or whatever. Do you think that invoking the image the
specter of the death penalty, in your opinion, is going
to help him with the folks in the middle. I
mean the folks who don't like him are never going
to be persuaded. He could bring peace to America, cure cancer.
We've talked about that absolutely, but the folks in the
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middle from a political point of view, was that smart
for him to do that? Today?
Speaker 6 (30:57):
An a line, I think it was. I think that
people fed up, and I think those finger waggers, I
think that they have a disproportionate influence of the media
and the ability to get their voice out, and the
vast majority of the people are absolutely sick and tired
of them. And to tell our military to disobey orders, okay,
is one of the most disgusting things that a person
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can go the.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Pat Patrick, I don't mean they were smart enough to
say that you can disobey illegal orders, so let's just
make sure accurate and what they said, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
I agree, But that was that was a winking enough.
This is what they intended to do. This is what
they intended to do. What they intended to do was
inspire a few people to do the equivalent of burn
their draft card in their uniform, right, and CNN and
the New York Times's going to pick them up and
they're going to plaster them all over the television, and
then they're going to try to have those people. They're
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going to applaud them all the lefts are gonna applaud
them all over TV in the news, and then they're
going to try to inspire other people to walk out.
They're trying to a movement, right, that's the first that's
what they're trying to do, and everyone sees right through it.
And the second part is they are announcing, in my opinion,
in my opinion, they have the intent to prosecute when
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they take power over. For even people like ice officers.
I think they're saying, you have the chance right now
to disobey orders, and if you don't, we're going to
prosecute you. I think that's what they that's where they're
going with this with the ice officers. I think that's
what they're doing, Dan, all those noble ice officers who
are defending our country are going to get prosecuted by
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these people. That's what they're announcing.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, you might be right, but I will tell you
that if they were, if they ever attempted to do
that on my watch, and I can only speak for me,
I would stand shoulder to shoulder with you and condemn that.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
These are the same people who wired fifty one so
called intelligence officers to say that the Hunter died in laptop.
Story was a lot when anybody who had access to
the Internet could see Hunter Biden doing the most most
terrible things and pictures of it plastic. They live, they
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live American people. This stuff was visible to everybody.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But again they were Patrick, They they the fifty one
were cute. What they said, this has the the earmarks
of a Russian disinformation campaign.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
There the same type of language.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
They just you, I'm agreeing with you. I'm agreeing with you,
but I'm also just trying to be precise and specific,
and I'm I'm not trying to be a gentleman. I'm
a gentleman with you, but I'm trying to I'm trying
to be precise. I think one of the best calls, Patrick,
one of the best, one of the best calls of
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the night. Okay, and I thank you for joining the conversation.
But I got three more behind you, and I got you.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Would make a great press secretary for Donald Trump. He
he's a guy like you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well, I think I think that he would. He would
do well to have someone I wish that today he
could have.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Trued that what he won, you could translate. You could
translate what he needs. It's a polite English language.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
No, he needs a sense of humor too. And again
there's a million ways if Ronald Reagan had that ability,
oh shocks, you know, there he goes again. I'm not
going to question his youth and inexperience. Uh. And he
just knew how to time it well. And that's the
one thing that Trump seems to be uncapable of. Have
a you know, have a sense of humor. And you
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can dismiss people with humor a lot more than you
than than you can with words that that are really
empty words. Patrick, love you call me man. Thank you so much,
as always taught you. Soon have a good one. Good night. Okay,
we're getting everybody in. Linda, John and BJ you guys
stay right there. We're heading home. We're going to get
them all in. Thank you for the calls tonight. It's
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been busy. I've been the calls. Thank you. You make
my job a little easier by joining the conversation. I
thank you much. Coming back on night.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Shob you're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Getting everybody in Linda and Weymouth. Hey, Linda next on Nightside.
Speaker 12 (35:16):
Go right ahead, Hi Dan, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
You're very welcome.
Speaker 12 (35:22):
So I understand that.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
You want.
Speaker 12 (35:25):
Us to respond to Donald Trump's response to what the
Democrats said about.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
That's kind of what we're talking about. I think that
I'll be interested what you thought. I thought he would
have been better to handle it with some humor as
opposed to implying death penalty.
Speaker 12 (35:43):
Yes, I have to agree with you on that. But
knowing Donald Trump, and we all know him, we all
know how he responds to things. I think that the
Democrats know too, and I think this was more of
a way to rile him up and to get and
to get a response that they knew he was gonna
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Joe and and I'm not saying what he his response
was was right. I think he went a little bit extreme.
But with Donald Trump, in my opinion, is no gray.
It's either black or white with him.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, he basically got played.
Speaker 12 (36:22):
He fell into their trap exactly exactly.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
And he needs either family members or staff around him
to say, you know, he could have said, look, maybe
you saw this, uh, this insane statement by by these Democrats.
They have no clue what they're talking about. I'm the
commander in chief. I issue the orders. I guarantee you
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the orders that I issue will be in the best
interest of this nation and this country. You know it
could have come up with, spent a little to talk
up with something a lot more proactive and positive and
and even perhaps have a note of humor in there.
Lydia as always, thank you, I got a bunch of
I got two other calls. We're going to try to
get to here as well. Thanks so much again tonight.
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I really appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Tonight.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Have a great Thanksgiving. If we don't talk between now
and Thursday, and hopefully we will, okay, we.
Speaker 12 (37:22):
Will, we will. Thank you, Daniel, good night.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Let me go to BJ and ACT and BJ next
on nights. I got room for you and also John
and Waltham.
Speaker 9 (37:30):
Go ahead, BJ, Yes, Dan, I uh, I think that
going after the Narco terrorists is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I agree with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
Yeah. However, I think that this massive deployment of National
Guard and ICE in US cities is another matter. I
think that uh, Donald Trump has been known to do
it'll leave things and that I and therefore I think
that a public reminder about refusing illegal orders is perfectly appropriate.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Okay, I disagree with you, but that's fine. By the way.
I also think that what he's doing in cities is
going to renew to his benefit because a lot of
people who live in cities live with a great deal
of fear. And I think that the National Guard is
going to cast out a good job in Washington, a
good job in Memphis, a good job in Portland, and
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a good job in Chicago. Again, I think that those
mayors are incapable. Did you see the story about the
woman who was lit on fire on a Chicago commuter
train yesterday?
Speaker 9 (38:46):
I'm afraid I missed that.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, there was a guy who had a he had
He had a glass of a bottle of gasoline. He
poured it over her and lit her on fire. She's
in critical condition. He is fifty year old guy, I
guess who has been in an of the courts dozens
of times since nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 9 (39:03):
I just don't think the answer to that is this
massive National Guard and Ice deployment.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I think you disagree.
Speaker 9 (39:11):
Some night, a lot of fear and people, why don't
we do this?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I will talk about that, I'm sure in the next
week or so, and we'll have a longer conversation. I
don't think I can give it, give you enough time
in the because they only have two minutes left. So
let's let's pick up on next time we chat, okay,
because I think it'll be a good conversation. Thanks b
J keep thank you, damn thank you much. Let me
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go to John and Waldam. John, you got the final
word of the night, right ahead.
Speaker 11 (39:39):
John, Thank you for taking my dog.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (39:42):
You know I'm a trump man.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yep.
Speaker 11 (39:44):
You brought up one a wagon run a wagon shot
from the hip, and so doesn't Trump anyhow, he shot guts.
Trump's got guts. He should have never said that. But
he's only youman. You know. I saw this guy the
other night in the supermarket mocket basket, got a T shirt.
I said, Silence wins. Anyhow, Uh, silence wins.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Maybe sometimes silence is okay, But I don't know that.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
He looked at me, right. He nodded his head. He
looked right at me at the register.
Speaker 9 (40:16):
Right.
Speaker 11 (40:16):
I nodded it back. And anyhow, silence wins. But Reagan
tom shoes from the hips. He's got guts all right, all.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Right, John, I appreciate your calling. I hope things are
good to Walthame tonight. All right, my friend will.
Speaker 11 (40:31):
Talk all right, Daniel. I hope the buve Ben your
market back and Walt Now I'll get your copy in
the sandwich.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
You got it. I'll look forward to that. Thanks John, Thanks,
talk to you later again. Have a good night. All right.
We are done for the night. Friday is right around
the corner. We'll get to We'll see you tomorrow night
at eight o'clock. I'm gonna be on Facebook Night Side
with Dan Ray Live. I'll see you in about I
don't know, two minutes, two three minutes. I'm gonna get
(40:57):
on quickly tonight, that is for sure. I want to
say I want to thank Marita, want to thank all
of you. By the way, coming up on Christmas, nightsidegear
dot com I should talk more about it. Nightsidegear dot com.
You can get a nightside tote bag, nightside coffee mug, sweatshirt,
hooded sweatshirt, what you can. You can give a lot
(41:17):
of nightside presents to people. All dogs, all cats, all
pets go to heaven. That's my pal Charlie Radiers, who
passed fifteen years ago in February. That's all your pets
are who have passed. They loved you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. Have a great Friday, everybody,
stay warm and we'll see it again tomorrow night at
eight o'clock. Thanks everybody for listening. Have a great Friday.
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