August 12, 2025 • 38 mins
A recently discovered interstellar object being likened to a comet by some scientists is on an “extremely unusual course” that will take it close to three different planets: Venus, Mars and Jupiter, says Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. Loeb believes the unidentified object is an alien craft saying, “The chance of a natural space rock randomly flying along that path is less than 0.005%.” Do you believe in alien life form? Tulsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence says she believes aliens could “possibly be real”.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS. He costs
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, if you were listening earlier during the eight o'clock hour,
we talked with Professor Avi Loebe. He is from Harvard University.
He is an astronomer. He is also a physicist, an
amazing individual. I think that he's been in the news often.
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He basically, I think down deep, has a belief that
we're not alone, okay, and he's in a position of
great influence, I mean just great influence. And he spent
about twelve minutes with us during the eight o'clock hour
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talking about this object that has been identified by a
very powerful telesc in Chile. The object that he is
that he is convinced exists. He doesn't know what it is.
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His observations are it's not a comet. His observations are
based upon its size. It's twelve miles in diameter, I
mean twelve miles. That's bigger than Boston in any way.
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I mean Boston really is only a city that's about
four or five miles wide, and its widest and if
you go from the tip of Boston, which probably would
be Logan Airport, East Boston, all the way south to
let us say, the southernmost address in West Roxbury, on
the other side of the city. What's that gonna be
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ten miles maybe, so this would be he believes that
some it might be some so of a probe from
outer space. So for those of you who didn't listen
a word listening during the news during the first hour, again,
I just want to tell you that it is. He's
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an amazing individual. Rob Let's just introduce him to the audience.
If you've heard this already, this gives you a second
time to understand the import of what he's saying. He's
saying that this is not a comet. He's saying that
it is traveling at thirty seven miles per second. Let
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me put that in context for you. That essentially means
that you are traveling in about a minute across the
about twenty four hundred miles across the United States of America,
nearly coast to coast, probably in a minute and fifteen seconds.
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That's how ask this thing is going. Well, let's just
listen to Avi Lobe. Okay, rob Let's play cut a.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's bigger than Manhattan Island. And the question is is
it possible to get such a giant rock from Interstella
space over a period of eight years that this Atlas
telescope was serving the sky. And the answer is no,
because there isn't enough material rocky material in interstellar space.
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The best you can hope for is once per ten
thousand years or so such a giant rug to be delivered,
and that's if you pack all the rocky material in
interstell space into twenty kilometer rocks of this size.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So he addressed the issue, well, could this just be
a huge comment. He seems to know what he's talking about.
Let's just cut B.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And then the question, Okay, if it's not a rock,
what is it? And of course a lot of people say, well,
maybe you know, it has a very small core and
it's just a cloud of dust. But no, we don't
see a cometary tail behind it. If it was a
cloud of dust, then some of the dust will be
pushed back by the solar radiation, and that's the way
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comets show up there is a tail behind them, but
there is no tail behind this one. We obtain a
very deep image with the Hubble Space telescope and it
looks as if you know, there is a glow in
front of the object, no tail behind it, so.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
He eliminates it as a comet. He seems to think
that the light is very bright, brighter than it should
be at the distance it's going to be in our
neck of the woods sometime in mid to late October.
He has a scale which would be as he said,
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zero meaning under no circumstances. Says, could this be some
sort of a life form, and he said ten would
be absolutely is. He's got it like it a four.
So he's kind of hedging his bets a little bit
because obviously he's a scientist and he doesn't want to
be wrong, but he certainly is raising the possibility. Now.
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I had a scientist once when I asked him if
he could give me a sense of the size of
our where we live, our galaxy, the Milky Way, the universe,
and however you want to describe it. And there are
scientists who understand a lot better than you and me.
And this scientist said to me, well, think of sands
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on a beach, you know, and you can't count the
number of sands on a beach. I mean, if you
tried this impossible, when you think about it, you could
not literally count to a number on a major beach,
And he says, that's kind of what we think is
out there, that we're one one sand, we're one spec
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of sand, and that all of these other specs of
sands that surround us, you know, in ever expanding how
how you can't even get your head around it? And
so therefore, what are the chances that the only people,
the only intelligent beings, assuming that we are intelligent beings
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maybe we are, maybe we aren't, would live on this
one little rock that's going around the sun. Now again,
this has got nothing to do with religion, obviously, if
you know, if you believe in religion, the question that
which I do and believe in God, let me put it.
And I don't bissarily believe in religion per se, but
I do believe in God. Did we just happen to
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arrive here five billion years ago in some form of
fashion and some sort of an amoeba fish, and we
now or what you and I have become through development?
I I can't get my head around that, so I'm
not I'm not even going to try. But what are
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the chances that there's not some other form of life
that has now gone before us or is still in
the developmental phase that that are we once were. I
think those are serious questions. So what I want to do, uh,
and I have a little bit more of what doctor
Avi Loebe has to say, uh, if you've read any
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of this. And by the way, just to add one
other element to this, which I which I will right now,
and I don't I'm not bringing politics into this at all. However, however, Uh.
Telsey Gabbard, who is the Director of National Intelligence, someone
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who is respected by some Republicans and and and sort
of dismissed by a lot of Democrats. She did an
interview recently with a reporter from the New York Post,
and she made some really interesting comments, really interesting comments
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that caught my attention. We'll play at least one of
those for you as well. But in the meantime, my
question for you is pretty simple, and that is, do
you think we're alone? Do you think that? And we
will probably in our lifetime never know, but maybe maybe
a couple of hundred years from now, as we progress
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and as other groups progress. I think that statistically the
chances are overwhelmingly that we are not alone. I can't
prove that. You can't disprove that That's why I'd like
to hear from you. And I'm sure some of you
have more insight on this than I do. And this
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is not my air of expertise. Six months, seven two, five,
four to ten, thirty six one, seven, nine thirty Coming
right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Let's see what people have to say. I do want
to play this one SoundBite from Telsa Gabbard.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
She is the Director of National Intelligence. Whether you like
Telsy Gabbard or not, but she made some I thought
interesting comments, some very interesting comments in an interview with
The New York Post. Play that that thirty two second
bite from me. So do you believe that they could be.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
I honestly like my personal belief I have my own
views and opinions. In this role, I gotta be careful
with with with with.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What I share.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Very interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And I laughed.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
My husband's laughing in the corner because he we have
these same conversations. And obviously I don't share any class
fight information. Yeah, uh, outside of my building with those
who have clearances. But it's it's this is this is
fun that he's here to watch this.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, well you can read that one one way or
the other. I would like to know. I mean, we've
heard all of that, all of the the UFO sightings
I tend to dismiss. But when I hear an astronomer
and a physicist like Abby Loeb at Harvard University, who's
a pretty smart guy. Uh, professor at Harvard Science director
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of the Institute for Theory and Competent Computation, UH, That's
that's pretty serious stuff. His title is he's the director
the Institute for Theory and Computation, the Center for Astrophysicists Physics,
a physicist and an astronomer. So the question is real simple,
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what you got to tell you? And does it matter?
I mean it would be the Uh. I can't imagine
a bigger news story. Let's see what people have to say.
The only well, the only I have one line at
six one seven two, five thirty and one at six
one seven nine thirty. Now, I'm not gonna go all
art Bell on you here, trust me on that. Okay,
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this is we're not doing that. But when you have
someone like again uh a a Harvard representative, and I'm
not trying to overrate Harvard here either, by the way,
who's serious about this and is not putting his reputation
on the line, but certainly has taken a step away
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from the from the crowd. Let's go to Dave in
New Hampshire. Dave, what do you think you think there's
something out there beyond us?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Yes? I do.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
What what makes you think that?
Speaker 7 (11:49):
I've had two visual incounters believe it?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm not you're kidding me. No, Okay, describe describe them
for me. I want to listen carefully. I'm I'm not
closed minded generally.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I heard.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I heard.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
I heard you before you said, you know, you're not
a believer in the UFOs, but either was irontil I
saw what I saw?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, I said, No, what I said was, I'm not
so much a believer in UFOs. And you know, funny
things in the sky and that that is close. And
the reason is I think a lot of that could
be US military. But we'll put that aside for a second.
But I'm more intrigued than interested by what Abby Lobe said.
If there is an intelligent life force out there, way
beyond our capability, they may come to they might come
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to visit us at some point. But go ahead, tell me.
Tell me your experiences.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
My first experience was an orange sphere floating about ground level.
This is in New Hampshire and he you know the
color of the packing lights and the packing lot, they're
orange colored. They're off colored. That's what this thing is.
Just no noise at all. It just hopping around and
then it just shot up in the air and took off,
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just disappeared. My ex wife saw it too.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I'm gonna I'm going to be a little humorous here.
I'm not being insultive. Was there any alcohol involved that evening?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
No.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
In fact, it woke me up out of his sleep
for some weird reason. I was sleeping and I woke
up and I went to the window when I saw
the thing.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
This was in your back in your backyard or your
front yard or something.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
It was across the street and in a field.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay, all right. What was the other one?
Speaker 7 (13:34):
The other one was up in Maine by my I
had a camp up in Maine in uh my Baab area,
and and it was physically it was it was a spaceship,
believe it or not. It just holb it over the
tops of the trees. I was on a lake out there,
and it helped over the tops of the trees and
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didn't move. I got so tired of watching it and
I went to bed. It was it was a shape
of a sphere of the roundpere. It had lights, it
had everything. It didn't make a sound.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Okay, so let me let me play Devil's advocate for
a second. Okay. Yeah, in this day and age, everybody
has a cell phone. Well most people have a cell
phone if there are these events, and I don't know
if you had a cell phone, but did you it
was downstairs?
Speaker 7 (14:29):
I didn't have it on me. Okay, so that makes
me a fake? I know.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
No, it doesn't. No, I'm not suggesting that at all.
I'm trying to be respectful and the fact that you're
calling and being honest with me, I respect that. But
my question is not your experience, but you're probably not
the only one that has has had similar experiences. Where
are the pictures? Do you know what I'm saying? Where
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are the pictures?
Speaker 7 (14:59):
Yeah? I agree, in most of the pictures you ever
see very blurry looking. If I had my camera, this
thing wouldn't have been blurried.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
No, I understand that. But what I'm saying is I
would think that out of let's say one hundred people,
ten of them would be able to focus and take
take a picture. I know a lot of people would
be nervous and they'd be fumbling with the camera, and
if the camera would, you know, fall down a sewer
and they lose the camera. I get all of that.
I just I just look for pictures. That's all. Well,
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look down are I appreciate your call? You seem like
a what do you do for a living?
Speaker 7 (15:33):
I used to be a construction laborer in Boston.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay, all right, so you're a normal person, is what
I'm trying to say. The point of the matter is that.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
You know you're I may get seen. I don't know.
I'll go.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
No, Look, there are people who firmly believe that these experiences. Okay,
so who am I to judge someone else? I'm not.
I'm not trying to be judgmental. I'm trying to just
you'll think with you logically. That's all. Appreciate, I really do, Dave, Okay,
you talk, so okay, let me go next to Mark
and Austin. Mark, I'd love to know what you think.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Thanks for taking my call then, and I definitely think
we are not alone. My theory sound may sound a
little nutty, but hear me out ahead. For decades and decades,
we've had reputable people like Air Force pilots report UFO sidings,
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and there have been some pictures and even former now
the late former president Jimmy Carter reported a UFO siding.
So here's my theory that indeed, we're being actively monitored
by a more advanced civilization that hasn't mastered the art
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and signed into interstellar travel and is very worried about us.
But uh, they're not going to interfere unless their existence
they perceived that their existence is directly threatened.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, we're a long way from that. I think. Yeah,
I don't think we have the capacity.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
That's I suppose.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
It takes.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
It takes a little nerve to go public about something
like that.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well what you said, what was that? Let me let
me just say this. Sometimes you and I disagree, but
on this one, I think you're you're maybe spawn on
because there could be a higher form out there who's
more advanced and and they're going to say, hey, let's
let's go down and look at this planet, and maybe
they're looking in us and saying that's what we look like,
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you know, hundred million years ago or something like that,
which would be it would be like us looking back
at cavemen, if there was a planet where they were
just cavemen beating each other over the head with clubs, right,
we'd say, well we yeah, we're much more sophisticated than that.
But there was a time when that was our sistance.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
Yeah, caveman is of course an oversimplification of what we
know about human evolution. But nonetheless, I mean, the odds
if you look at the number of Earth like planets
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and earthlike solar systems that have been discovered directly by astronomers,
the odds are just too great.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, we land at the same place, and that is
what i've lobe set as well. And by the way,
when you say that cavemen were not what we would
what we were evolving, you're telling me the Flintstone cartoons
weren't actual real cartoons.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Well, they were very entertaining, but well.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I think there probably was a period of time where
people were running around with you know, those those you know,
you know, living in skins of animals that they that
they had to kill in order to live. Yeah, I
am my sense, my sense and so that there was
a time when they were you know, they had to
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go when they when they went to go have dinner,
I had to go buy dinner. They weren't going to
market basket because market Basket wasn't around. Someone said, hey,
we got to go get ourselves an animal hair. Yeah, absolutely,
thank god you and I didn't have to do that,
that's for sure, all right, right, Mark, I enjoyed the call.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Talk to you soon. Have a great night. Okay, I'm
open for business here. Six one seven two thirty six
one seven, nine three ten thirty. We have a couple
more sound bites from Professor Avi Lob of Harvard No slouch.
And I think it's a serious topic to consider. I mean,
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I think even from a theological point of view, you
got to look at it a little bit differently. If
there is if you happen to believe in uh in
a higher power of God, okay, which I do, Okay,
would God just come up with the one experiment on
the earth? I mean, if he created everything out there,
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would he just had the one experiment on Earth? I
don't know. And if you're a scientific type who doesn't
believe in the existence of God, if there's an infinite number.
You know Richard Green, Professor Brian Green of UH Columbia.
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I believe he is a physics guy, and he wrote
Parallel Views. He believes when you when you talk about
the concept of infinity, that that one of his books
passes the theory that right now, wherever you are, whoever
you are, whatever you look like, whatever your circumstances, that
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there's a mirror image of you somewhere because of infinity.
Because the concept of infinity, it's a tough one for
me to get my head around. Some of you out
there are really bright, smart people. O'hill, Walt's more than me.
Feel free to join the conversation. Mark is very smart.
Sometimes we have difficulty, but we had a great call
tonight six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty, six, one, seven,
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nine thirty. Are we alone? I don't think so, I
really don't. I can't prove it, you can't disprove it.
Coming back on Nightside, It's Night Side with.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
All right, let's keep rolling here. I'm looking for serious people.
I'm looking for people who probably know more about this
than I do. Florence and grovelin Florence. Love to know
what you think about it? Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
You're having a lot of fun, and.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I know, well I am, But at the same time,
I can't prove it one way or the other. But
when someone like Professor Ave Loebe takes the position that
he has taken, I mean, it's his reputation on the line.
And this we won't necessarily know for sure. But this
item that is now hurtling towards Earth, I don't know,
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he doesn't know, but at least we should talk about it.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yes, I have a thought, but I couldn't meet sitch
calling and I him in the pants when you've hit
someone on walking about this subject.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
We haven't done it off in Florence, Nope.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
And it fascinates me, really does. And I was thinking,
what about what the professors said, and thinking he's trying
to figure out in his mind what this could be,
all right, And I was thinking, because I do believe
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when not alone but being observed.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
What were you thinking? That's what I need to know, Florence.
What were you thinking?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
How about a floating planet?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I never thought of that, Florence. You were definitely thinking
outside the box. Okay, we are a floating planet, Florence,
when you think about it, When you think about it,
we are a floating planet. You and I stay stationary
except when we move. But the planet revolves, you know,
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it rotates, you know, every day, and it revolves around
the Sun. In a year, you know, the sun goes
down and the sun comes up. And yeah, we we
are moving. We're moving our planet. We don't feel it.
But our planet is not only revolving on a twenty
four hour cycle, but it's also rotating on a three
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hundred and sixty five day cycle around the Sun. And
if we if we were we we're about ninety million
miles from the Sun. If we were much closer, we'd
burn up. If we were much further away, we couldn't
support life, We couldn't support agriculture. Think about it.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
We can't be sure that there isn't a couple of
planets out there with some form of life.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Right, I'm with you in Florence.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
We tend to agree, go ahead, yeah, And to say
out floating planet. We can't dispute something like that. We
have no way of going.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
But Florence, you're missing what I'm saying. We are a
floating planet.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Oh I know so yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I mean, if you're not coming up with an idea
that we are a floating planet, Florence, I gotta keep
rolling here. Okay, thanks very much for calling. As always.
We will talk soon.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Thank you, Florence a planet, Dan.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I understand that, Florence. I'm with you. I'm totally with you. Okay, thanks,
have a great night. Let me go to David and
I'm Madapan. David, you're Next Time Nightsacker. Right ahead.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Okay, that's a strong start, David.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Let's follow it up. Go right ahead. You're on the air, David,
go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
The Lord says he's going for a place to prepare
a place for us. I'll live with you for fuck right.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm listening David. Here sirens. I hope, I hope everything's okay.
Speaker 10 (26:09):
Everything is okay, go right ahead, everything is okay. We'll
be too. But the good Lord said he's going to
be pay please for us, Yes, and he will be
back soon.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He said that about two thousand years ago. But his
definition of soon might be different than your definition of
my definition. Go ahead.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
It could be in job that's watches, coming back to partake.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
He could be David. I think I think you're right
on that one. And again, we don't do a lot
of religion here, but thank you for at least injecting
that thought. And I do hope that the Lord comes back,
and I pray, trust and pray he will. Thank you, David,
all right, have a great night. We'll take a quick break.
Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
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nine three, one ten thirty. Uh, feel free, feel free
to call and it'll fill up these lines, okay, And
if you don't want to talk about it, we'll find
another subject to talk about, that's for sure. But what
we try to do one night side, here's the thing
that's amazing about this program. What I try to do
every night is come up with different story ideas. Okay,
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there are some which we will continue to follow, Okay,
Market Basket is a good example of that. But every night,
if you go back and you look two months ago,
two years ago, fifteen years ago, we try to do
different story ideas. And I hope most of you can
rise to that occasion. Six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
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My question is based upon what Professor Avi Loebe said,
and maybe I have to play his sound bites again.
For those of you who are just joining us, are
we alone? I don't think that statistically we are alone, because,
as I said, there was a scientist who once explained
to me that we are like meaning our galaxy is
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like a single piece of sand on a beach, and
that all the other galaxies are on that beach as
far as you can see. That's the only way you
can conceptualize it. We'll be back on Nightside. Hope you
joined the conversation six one, seven, two, four, ten thirty
six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. We'll be
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right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I think the aliens have stolen a couple of pieces
of paper from my desk. Care Rob, It's amazing, It's amazing.
Let's keep rolling here. Mike is in Quincy. Mike, You're
next on Nightside.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I've had better nights, Mike, to be really honest with you,
but I'm plugging along. Go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
I want to say that I get a big kick
out of the show. This reminds me of the Larry
Glick days.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Night, Maybe not though, but that's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Yeah, when when when Larry Glick had a slow, slow night,
he would call l L Bean. He had a phone
booth and he also had a phone number for two
guys in Louisiana that he would call that would describe
the UFOs that they saw from their front porch while drinking.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yes, who I hear? But I gotta tell you something.
If you listened to Professor Addy Low, did you hear
him in the eight o'clock hour or no?
Speaker 9 (29:44):
Yeah? Yeah, But I know several astrophysicists from HAVID and
they have a much more open mind about extraterrestrial life
than the average person.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Okay, tell me what you mean by that. I want
to believe. I think I know what you mean, but
but define for me what you mean.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Well, I think they're so familiar with the universe and
so many planets beyond our universe that they they are
aware the probability of possibility that life would exist.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Elsewhere, absolutely absolutely and uh and and that's pretty much
my belief, to be honest with as well, that I've
described it several times. A friend, a friend of mine,
once I asked, well, how big is you know, whatever's
out there. I don't even know how to ask the question.
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And he said, well, think of a beach and uh,
and we're one piece of sand. What do you mean
we want one piece? We're one piece? He says that
we're one piece of sand on the beach. Where are we? Galaxy? Whoever?
You want? Describe it? So that gives you just a
sense of what we're talking about here.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Yeah, given if there were planets and they were in
the right zone and they had an atmosphere, perhaps they
could create DNA.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm totally with you. Look, thank
you for calling. Have you called my show before?
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (31:35):
No, never, never, Yeah, show, this is the first time.
But I did. I did call David BRODNOI.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, that's good. David was doing the show about twenty
years ago, so we at least have a place.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
Jim Henson was on the on the show.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well, if I could get Jim Henson to call you,
you call back again. But I think he's died, so
the yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Yeah, I asked him though, I said, uh, Ernie and
Bert did they come from? It's a wonderful wife, And
he gave an answer that was so strange. But you
knew at the end of it that, Yes, that's how
they named the Muppets Ernie and Bert.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Well, my favorite muppet has always been Elbow. I think
he's an underrated muppet. All right, Hey, I'd love to
talk Muppets with you, Mike, but I do me a favor.
Don't waste another twenty years before you call Nightside. I
might not be here. Okay, thank you, Okay, take it easy, Dan, bye,
have a great night. Thanks for listenings. We have had
(32:42):
an interesting collection of callers tonight, which is great. Michael
and Addleborough. Hey, Mike, welcome next on Nightside.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Hey, how you doing Dan?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Well? As I said before, I've done better. But we're
plugging along. Go right ahead. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I absolutely think there are other people out there. I
mean I believe it's that other call and called a
few calls are God that God put us here, and
you know what, are we high for Luton? And we're
like the only people on earth, I mean, the only
people in the world. I think there's definitely other people.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Well, I think again from from an intellectual point of view,
I've described it now several times that we're like one
piece of sand one grain of sand on the beach,
and look as far as you can see, and there's
a beach un to your left and the beach to
your right, and there's a lot of other pieces of
sand on that beach.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I just excuse me, I just saw Carver. Doesn't call
this guy out and put him on the front of
the Herald and call him a Quackbosh, He's not a crack,
he's a very I'm just hoping they don't do that.
They're good for that, you know. But hey, do you
remember the media you went to see up in New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yes I do, Yes, yes I do.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I read about that it actually land. You didn't actually
visually see it.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Did you know what happened was? And this is a
true story. Okay, I'm going to tell this story for
your benefit and for the benefit of the audience. I'm
a young reporter, maybe in my first year. This is
maybe the winter of nineteen seventy seven, and I get
a call at like one o'clock in the morning. Now
I'm working on regular nine to five ships, so I'm
(34:25):
happy asleep. I'm well asleep at that point. And they said,
we think that a spaceship might have landed in New Hampshire.
So they said, you've got to come in. We're going
to send you with a photographer to find out what's
going on. And I thought it was like an initiation.
(34:45):
I thought it was a prank. I thought that it
was I was going to walk in the room, the newsroom,
and that to be about five people pointing, laughing at me.
So I said, don't you know, don't don't do this
to me. They said, no, you got to come right now.
It just it just hit up in New Hampshire. So okay,
(35:06):
I come in and sure enough they're all excited. So
I got in the van in the car with this
fotog and all of a sudden, as we're driving, I'm
again still like half asleep. It's two thirty in the morning. Okay.
What had happened was this thing streaked across the sky
and it went into a lake and made a huge
hole in a lake. Okay, So we get up there
(35:28):
and my camera guy said to me, wouldn't this be
great if we have like the first Earthlings to meet,
you know, people from another planet. This is in nineteen
seventy seven, and I'm thinking to myself, oh my god,
you know I don't want to be like spending the
rest of my life with my camera guy in space
with some you know, Martians, And all of a sudden
(35:50):
I realizing this may be a bad situation. So on
the way up, everyone in New Hampshire had a gun,
was out on the road. Okay, they were all out,
and I'm thinking someone's going to shoot us. So we
get there and they would. We got close to where
it was, but they had police offices. They're really serious.
It turned out it was a meteor that did streak
(36:13):
across the sky and a lot of people thought this
was the real deal. But but it was. It was
It was a meteor. But I'm telling you, for a
few hours that night, I thought to myself, am I
going to end up like the only person who's going
to end up on a spaceship going? You know? I
mean I had a lot of friends. I didn't want
to lose my friends.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Oh I'm sorry. I just want to make a quick
go to your next person.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
How do you remember that they did that story? How
do you remember that? I remember because I was there.
How do you remember?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I remember you telling it? And I also saw it
on one of these history channels. Okay, God, I believe
about three or four years ago.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
But here's the media.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Rocket is worth money. So how come people on scuba
diving down they.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Were cutting it up.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Maybe they have already. I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe it was just a plain old media write it's
every meteorite isn't worth something?
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
The one that they found over in the desert, Sahara
Desert that I think just sold at auction for like
fifty thousand dollars because it came off of Mars. They
were convinced they did, you know, studies on it came
from Mars. Hey, I got to run, Michael. I appreciate
your call and thank you for giving me the opportunity
to tell that story. But that is a true story,
(37:30):
and I can I remember being terrified, thinking I'm going
to spend the rest of my life in another somewhere else,
and I'm gonna be with this guy, this camera guy,
who was a nice guy, don't get me wrong, but
you know, it was terrifying because I'm thinking they're going
to do all sorts of experiments on me and him.
Now again, it's four o'clock in the morning at this
(37:51):
point when I'm thinking about it, but it was terrifying.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
A separate thing. They drive, you can and the reporters
to the place.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Sure, back in those days. Back in those days, got
a run. Here comes the newscast, Thanks Michael. All Right,
if you're on the line, stay there. If you're not
light up the line six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I want to talk about other planets where where people
actually might live. Coming back on Night Side,
It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS. He costs
me radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, if you were listening earlier during the eight o'clock hour,
we talked with Professor Avi Loebe. He is from Harvard University.
He is an astronomer. He is also a physicist, an
amazing individual. I think that he's been in the news often.
(00:29):
He basically, I think down deep, has a belief that
we're not alone, okay, and he's in a position of
great influence, I mean just great influence. And he spent
about twelve minutes with us during the eight o'clock hour
(00:50):
talking about this object that has been identified by a
very powerful telesc in Chile. The object that he is
that he is convinced exists. He doesn't know what it is.
(01:12):
His observations are it's not a comet. His observations are
based upon its size. It's twelve miles in diameter, I
mean twelve miles. That's bigger than Boston in any way.
(01:33):
I mean Boston really is only a city that's about
four or five miles wide, and its widest and if
you go from the tip of Boston, which probably would
be Logan Airport, East Boston, all the way south to
let us say, the southernmost address in West Roxbury, on
the other side of the city. What's that gonna be
(01:53):
ten miles maybe, so this would be he believes that
some it might be some so of a probe from
outer space. So for those of you who didn't listen
a word listening during the news during the first hour, again,
I just want to tell you that it is. He's
(02:16):
an amazing individual. Rob Let's just introduce him to the audience.
If you've heard this already, this gives you a second
time to understand the import of what he's saying. He's
saying that this is not a comet. He's saying that
it is traveling at thirty seven miles per second. Let
(02:37):
me put that in context for you. That essentially means
that you are traveling in about a minute across the
about twenty four hundred miles across the United States of America,
nearly coast to coast, probably in a minute and fifteen seconds.
(02:59):
That's how ask this thing is going. Well, let's just
listen to Avi Lobe. Okay, rob Let's play cut a.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's bigger than Manhattan Island. And the question is is
it possible to get such a giant rock from Interstella
space over a period of eight years that this Atlas
telescope was serving the sky. And the answer is no,
because there isn't enough material rocky material in interstellar space.
(03:30):
The best you can hope for is once per ten
thousand years or so such a giant rug to be delivered,
and that's if you pack all the rocky material in
interstell space into twenty kilometer rocks of this size.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So he addressed the issue, well, could this just be
a huge comment. He seems to know what he's talking about.
Let's just cut B.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And then the question, Okay, if it's not a rock,
what is it? And of course a lot of people say, well,
maybe you know, it has a very small core and
it's just a cloud of dust. But no, we don't
see a cometary tail behind it. If it was a
cloud of dust, then some of the dust will be
pushed back by the solar radiation, and that's the way
(04:18):
comets show up there is a tail behind them, but
there is no tail behind this one. We obtain a
very deep image with the Hubble Space telescope and it
looks as if you know, there is a glow in
front of the object, no tail behind it, so.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
He eliminates it as a comet. He seems to think
that the light is very bright, brighter than it should
be at the distance it's going to be in our
neck of the woods sometime in mid to late October.
He has a scale which would be as he said,
(04:56):
zero meaning under no circumstances. Says, could this be some
sort of a life form, and he said ten would
be absolutely is. He's got it like it a four.
So he's kind of hedging his bets a little bit
because obviously he's a scientist and he doesn't want to
be wrong, but he certainly is raising the possibility. Now.
(05:17):
I had a scientist once when I asked him if
he could give me a sense of the size of
our where we live, our galaxy, the Milky Way, the universe,
and however you want to describe it. And there are
scientists who understand a lot better than you and me.
And this scientist said to me, well, think of sands
(05:38):
on a beach, you know, and you can't count the
number of sands on a beach. I mean, if you
tried this impossible, when you think about it, you could
not literally count to a number on a major beach,
And he says, that's kind of what we think is
out there, that we're one one sand, we're one spec
(06:00):
of sand, and that all of these other specs of
sands that surround us, you know, in ever expanding how
how you can't even get your head around it? And
so therefore, what are the chances that the only people,
the only intelligent beings, assuming that we are intelligent beings
(06:23):
maybe we are, maybe we aren't, would live on this
one little rock that's going around the sun. Now again,
this has got nothing to do with religion, obviously, if
you know, if you believe in religion, the question that
which I do and believe in God, let me put it.
And I don't bissarily believe in religion per se, but
I do believe in God. Did we just happen to
(06:47):
arrive here five billion years ago in some form of
fashion and some sort of an amoeba fish, and we
now or what you and I have become through development?
I I can't get my head around that, so I'm
not I'm not even going to try. But what are
(07:07):
the chances that there's not some other form of life
that has now gone before us or is still in
the developmental phase that that are we once were. I
think those are serious questions. So what I want to do, uh,
and I have a little bit more of what doctor
Avi Loebe has to say, uh, if you've read any
(07:31):
of this. And by the way, just to add one
other element to this, which I which I will right now,
and I don't I'm not bringing politics into this at all. However, however, Uh.
Telsey Gabbard, who is the Director of National Intelligence, someone
(07:54):
who is respected by some Republicans and and and sort
of dismissed by a lot of Democrats. She did an
interview recently with a reporter from the New York Post,
and she made some really interesting comments, really interesting comments
(08:15):
that caught my attention. We'll play at least one of
those for you as well. But in the meantime, my
question for you is pretty simple, and that is, do
you think we're alone? Do you think that? And we
will probably in our lifetime never know, but maybe maybe
a couple of hundred years from now, as we progress
(08:38):
and as other groups progress. I think that statistically the
chances are overwhelmingly that we are not alone. I can't
prove that. You can't disprove that That's why I'd like
to hear from you. And I'm sure some of you
have more insight on this than I do. And this
(09:00):
is not my air of expertise. Six months, seven two, five,
four to ten, thirty six one, seven, nine thirty Coming
right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Let's see what people have to say. I do want
to play this one SoundBite from Telsa Gabbard.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
She is the Director of National Intelligence. Whether you like
Telsy Gabbard or not, but she made some I thought
interesting comments, some very interesting comments in an interview with
The New York Post. Play that that thirty two second
bite from me. So do you believe that they could be.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
I honestly like my personal belief I have my own
views and opinions. In this role, I gotta be careful
with with with with.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What I share.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Very interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And I laughed.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
My husband's laughing in the corner because he we have
these same conversations. And obviously I don't share any class
fight information. Yeah, uh, outside of my building with those
who have clearances. But it's it's this is this is
fun that he's here to watch this.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, well you can read that one one way or
the other. I would like to know. I mean, we've
heard all of that, all of the the UFO sightings
I tend to dismiss. But when I hear an astronomer
and a physicist like Abby Loeb at Harvard University, who's
a pretty smart guy. Uh, professor at Harvard Science director
(10:33):
of the Institute for Theory and Competent Computation, UH, That's
that's pretty serious stuff. His title is he's the director
the Institute for Theory and Computation, the Center for Astrophysicists Physics,
a physicist and an astronomer. So the question is real simple,
(10:54):
what you got to tell you? And does it matter?
I mean it would be the Uh. I can't imagine
a bigger news story. Let's see what people have to say.
The only well, the only I have one line at
six one seven two, five thirty and one at six
one seven nine thirty. Now, I'm not gonna go all
art Bell on you here, trust me on that. Okay,
(11:16):
this is we're not doing that. But when you have
someone like again uh a a Harvard representative, and I'm
not trying to overrate Harvard here either, by the way,
who's serious about this and is not putting his reputation
on the line, but certainly has taken a step away
(11:36):
from the from the crowd. Let's go to Dave in
New Hampshire. Dave, what do you think you think there's
something out there beyond us?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Yes? I do.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
What what makes you think that?
Speaker 7 (11:49):
I've had two visual incounters believe it?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm not you're kidding me. No, Okay, describe describe them
for me. I want to listen carefully. I'm I'm not
closed minded generally.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I heard.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I heard.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
I heard you before you said, you know, you're not
a believer in the UFOs, but either was irontil I
saw what I saw?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, I said, No, what I said was, I'm not
so much a believer in UFOs. And you know, funny
things in the sky and that that is close. And
the reason is I think a lot of that could
be US military. But we'll put that aside for a second.
But I'm more intrigued than interested by what Abby Lobe said.
If there is an intelligent life force out there, way
beyond our capability, they may come to they might come
(12:36):
to visit us at some point. But go ahead, tell me.
Tell me your experiences.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
My first experience was an orange sphere floating about ground level.
This is in New Hampshire and he you know the
color of the packing lights and the packing lot, they're
orange colored. They're off colored. That's what this thing is.
Just no noise at all. It just hopping around and
then it just shot up in the air and took off,
(13:00):
just disappeared. My ex wife saw it too.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I'm gonna I'm going to be a little humorous here.
I'm not being insultive. Was there any alcohol involved that evening?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
No.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
In fact, it woke me up out of his sleep
for some weird reason. I was sleeping and I woke
up and I went to the window when I saw
the thing.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
This was in your back in your backyard or your
front yard or something.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
It was across the street and in a field.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay, all right. What was the other one?
Speaker 7 (13:34):
The other one was up in Maine by my I
had a camp up in Maine in uh my Baab area,
and and it was physically it was it was a spaceship,
believe it or not. It just holb it over the
tops of the trees. I was on a lake out there,
and it helped over the tops of the trees and
(13:55):
didn't move. I got so tired of watching it and
I went to bed. It was it was a shape
of a sphere of the roundpere. It had lights, it
had everything. It didn't make a sound.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Okay, so let me let me play Devil's advocate for
a second. Okay. Yeah, in this day and age, everybody
has a cell phone. Well most people have a cell
phone if there are these events, and I don't know
if you had a cell phone, but did you it
was downstairs?
Speaker 7 (14:29):
I didn't have it on me. Okay, so that makes
me a fake? I know.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
No, it doesn't. No, I'm not suggesting that at all.
I'm trying to be respectful and the fact that you're
calling and being honest with me, I respect that. But
my question is not your experience, but you're probably not
the only one that has has had similar experiences. Where
are the pictures? Do you know what I'm saying? Where
(14:57):
are the pictures?
Speaker 7 (14:59):
Yeah? I agree, in most of the pictures you ever
see very blurry looking. If I had my camera, this
thing wouldn't have been blurried.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
No, I understand that. But what I'm saying is I
would think that out of let's say one hundred people,
ten of them would be able to focus and take
take a picture. I know a lot of people would
be nervous and they'd be fumbling with the camera, and
if the camera would, you know, fall down a sewer
and they lose the camera. I get all of that.
I just I just look for pictures. That's all. Well,
(15:27):
look down are I appreciate your call? You seem like
a what do you do for a living?
Speaker 7 (15:33):
I used to be a construction laborer in Boston.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay, all right, so you're a normal person, is what
I'm trying to say. The point of the matter is that.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
You know you're I may get seen. I don't know.
I'll go.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
No, Look, there are people who firmly believe that these experiences. Okay,
so who am I to judge someone else? I'm not.
I'm not trying to be judgmental. I'm trying to just
you'll think with you logically. That's all. Appreciate, I really do, Dave, Okay,
you talk, so okay, let me go next to Mark
and Austin. Mark, I'd love to know what you think.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Thanks for taking my call then, and I definitely think
we are not alone. My theory sound may sound a
little nutty, but hear me out ahead. For decades and decades,
we've had reputable people like Air Force pilots report UFO sidings,
(16:34):
and there have been some pictures and even former now
the late former president Jimmy Carter reported a UFO siding.
So here's my theory that indeed, we're being actively monitored
by a more advanced civilization that hasn't mastered the art
(16:59):
and signed into interstellar travel and is very worried about us.
But uh, they're not going to interfere unless their existence
they perceived that their existence is directly threatened.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, we're a long way from that. I think. Yeah,
I don't think we have the capacity.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
That's I suppose.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
It takes.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
It takes a little nerve to go public about something
like that.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well what you said, what was that? Let me let
me just say this. Sometimes you and I disagree, but
on this one, I think you're you're maybe spawn on
because there could be a higher form out there who's
more advanced and and they're going to say, hey, let's
let's go down and look at this planet, and maybe
they're looking in us and saying that's what we look like,
(17:59):
you know, hundred million years ago or something like that,
which would be it would be like us looking back
at cavemen, if there was a planet where they were
just cavemen beating each other over the head with clubs, right,
we'd say, well we yeah, we're much more sophisticated than that.
But there was a time when that was our sistance.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
Yeah, caveman is of course an oversimplification of what we
know about human evolution. But nonetheless, I mean, the odds
if you look at the number of Earth like planets
(18:42):
and earthlike solar systems that have been discovered directly by astronomers,
the odds are just too great.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, we land at the same place, and that is
what i've lobe set as well. And by the way,
when you say that cavemen were not what we would
what we were evolving, you're telling me the Flintstone cartoons
weren't actual real cartoons.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Well, they were very entertaining, but well.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I think there probably was a period of time where
people were running around with you know, those those you know,
you know, living in skins of animals that they that
they had to kill in order to live. Yeah, I
am my sense, my sense and so that there was
a time when they were you know, they had to
(19:41):
go when they when they went to go have dinner,
I had to go buy dinner. They weren't going to
market basket because market Basket wasn't around. Someone said, hey,
we got to go get ourselves an animal hair. Yeah, absolutely,
thank god you and I didn't have to do that,
that's for sure, all right, right, Mark, I enjoyed the call.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Talk to you soon. Have a great night. Okay, I'm
open for business here. Six one seven two thirty six
one seven, nine three ten thirty. We have a couple
more sound bites from Professor Avi Lob of Harvard No slouch.
And I think it's a serious topic to consider. I mean,
(20:25):
I think even from a theological point of view, you
got to look at it a little bit differently. If
there is if you happen to believe in uh in
a higher power of God, okay, which I do, Okay,
would God just come up with the one experiment on
the earth? I mean, if he created everything out there,
(20:48):
would he just had the one experiment on Earth? I
don't know. And if you're a scientific type who doesn't
believe in the existence of God, if there's an infinite number.
You know Richard Green, Professor Brian Green of UH Columbia.
(21:09):
I believe he is a physics guy, and he wrote
Parallel Views. He believes when you when you talk about
the concept of infinity, that that one of his books
passes the theory that right now, wherever you are, whoever
you are, whatever you look like, whatever your circumstances, that
(21:32):
there's a mirror image of you somewhere because of infinity.
Because the concept of infinity, it's a tough one for
me to get my head around. Some of you out
there are really bright, smart people. O'hill, Walt's more than me.
Feel free to join the conversation. Mark is very smart.
Sometimes we have difficulty, but we had a great call
tonight six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty, six, one, seven,
(21:53):
nine thirty. Are we alone? I don't think so, I
really don't. I can't prove it, you can't disprove it.
Coming back on Nightside, It's Night Side with.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
All right, let's keep rolling here. I'm looking for serious people.
I'm looking for people who probably know more about this
than I do. Florence and grovelin Florence. Love to know
what you think about it? Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
You're having a lot of fun, and.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I know, well I am, But at the same time,
I can't prove it one way or the other. But
when someone like Professor Ave Loebe takes the position that
he has taken, I mean, it's his reputation on the line.
And this we won't necessarily know for sure. But this
item that is now hurtling towards Earth, I don't know,
(22:47):
he doesn't know, but at least we should talk about it.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yes, I have a thought, but I couldn't meet sitch
calling and I him in the pants when you've hit
someone on walking about this subject.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
We haven't done it off in Florence, Nope.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
And it fascinates me, really does. And I was thinking,
what about what the professors said, and thinking he's trying
to figure out in his mind what this could be,
all right, And I was thinking, because I do believe
(23:29):
when not alone but being observed.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
What were you thinking? That's what I need to know, Florence.
What were you thinking?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
How about a floating planet?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I never thought of that, Florence. You were definitely thinking
outside the box. Okay, we are a floating planet, Florence,
when you think about it, When you think about it,
we are a floating planet. You and I stay stationary
except when we move. But the planet revolves, you know,
(24:05):
it rotates, you know, every day, and it revolves around
the Sun. In a year, you know, the sun goes
down and the sun comes up. And yeah, we we
are moving. We're moving our planet. We don't feel it.
But our planet is not only revolving on a twenty
four hour cycle, but it's also rotating on a three
(24:27):
hundred and sixty five day cycle around the Sun. And
if we if we were we we're about ninety million
miles from the Sun. If we were much closer, we'd
burn up. If we were much further away, we couldn't
support life, We couldn't support agriculture. Think about it.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
We can't be sure that there isn't a couple of
planets out there with some form of life.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Right, I'm with you in Florence.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
We tend to agree, go ahead, yeah, And to say
out floating planet. We can't dispute something like that. We
have no way of going.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
But Florence, you're missing what I'm saying. We are a
floating planet.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Oh I know so yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I mean, if you're not coming up with an idea
that we are a floating planet, Florence, I gotta keep
rolling here. Okay, thanks very much for calling. As always.
We will talk soon.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Thank you, Florence a planet, Dan.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I understand that, Florence. I'm with you. I'm totally with you. Okay, thanks,
have a great night. Let me go to David and
I'm Madapan. David, you're Next Time Nightsacker. Right ahead.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Okay, that's a strong start, David.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Let's follow it up. Go right ahead. You're on the air, David,
go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
The Lord says he's going for a place to prepare
a place for us. I'll live with you for fuck right.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm listening David. Here sirens. I hope, I hope everything's okay.
Speaker 10 (26:09):
Everything is okay, go right ahead, everything is okay. We'll
be too. But the good Lord said he's going to
be pay please for us, Yes, and he will be
back soon.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He said that about two thousand years ago. But his
definition of soon might be different than your definition of
my definition. Go ahead.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
It could be in job that's watches, coming back to partake.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
He could be David. I think I think you're right
on that one. And again, we don't do a lot
of religion here, but thank you for at least injecting
that thought. And I do hope that the Lord comes back,
and I pray, trust and pray he will. Thank you, David,
all right, have a great night. We'll take a quick break.
Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
(27:02):
nine three, one ten thirty. Uh, feel free, feel free
to call and it'll fill up these lines, okay, And
if you don't want to talk about it, we'll find
another subject to talk about, that's for sure. But what
we try to do one night side, here's the thing
that's amazing about this program. What I try to do
every night is come up with different story ideas. Okay,
(27:24):
there are some which we will continue to follow, Okay,
Market Basket is a good example of that. But every night,
if you go back and you look two months ago,
two years ago, fifteen years ago, we try to do
different story ideas. And I hope most of you can
rise to that occasion. Six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
(27:46):
My question is based upon what Professor Avi Loebe said,
and maybe I have to play his sound bites again.
For those of you who are just joining us, are
we alone? I don't think that statistically we are alone, because,
as I said, there was a scientist who once explained
to me that we are like meaning our galaxy is
(28:09):
like a single piece of sand on a beach, and
that all the other galaxies are on that beach as
far as you can see. That's the only way you
can conceptualize it. We'll be back on Nightside. Hope you
joined the conversation six one, seven, two, four, ten thirty
six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. We'll be
(28:31):
right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I think the aliens have stolen a couple of pieces
of paper from my desk. Care Rob, It's amazing, It's amazing.
Let's keep rolling here. Mike is in Quincy. Mike, You're
next on Nightside.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I've had better nights, Mike, to be really honest with you,
but I'm plugging along. Go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
I want to say that I get a big kick
out of the show. This reminds me of the Larry
Glick days.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Night, Maybe not though, but that's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Yeah, when when when Larry Glick had a slow, slow night,
he would call l L Bean. He had a phone
booth and he also had a phone number for two
guys in Louisiana that he would call that would describe
the UFOs that they saw from their front porch while drinking.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yes, who I hear? But I gotta tell you something.
If you listened to Professor Addy Low, did you hear
him in the eight o'clock hour or no?
Speaker 9 (29:44):
Yeah? Yeah, But I know several astrophysicists from HAVID and
they have a much more open mind about extraterrestrial life
than the average person.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Okay, tell me what you mean by that. I want
to believe. I think I know what you mean, but
but define for me what you mean.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Well, I think they're so familiar with the universe and
so many planets beyond our universe that they they are
aware the probability of possibility that life would exist.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Elsewhere, absolutely absolutely and uh and and that's pretty much
my belief, to be honest with as well, that I've
described it several times. A friend, a friend of mine,
once I asked, well, how big is you know, whatever's
out there. I don't even know how to ask the question.
(30:50):
And he said, well, think of a beach and uh,
and we're one piece of sand. What do you mean
we want one piece? We're one piece? He says that
we're one piece of sand on the beach. Where are we? Galaxy? Whoever?
You want? Describe it? So that gives you just a
sense of what we're talking about here.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Yeah, given if there were planets and they were in
the right zone and they had an atmosphere, perhaps they
could create DNA.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm totally with you. Look, thank
you for calling. Have you called my show before?
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (31:35):
No, never, never, Yeah, show, this is the first time.
But I did. I did call David BRODNOI.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, that's good. David was doing the show about twenty
years ago, so we at least have a place.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
Jim Henson was on the on the show.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well, if I could get Jim Henson to call you,
you call back again. But I think he's died, so
the yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Yeah, I asked him though, I said, uh, Ernie and
Bert did they come from? It's a wonderful wife, And
he gave an answer that was so strange. But you
knew at the end of it that, Yes, that's how
they named the Muppets Ernie and Bert.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Well, my favorite muppet has always been Elbow. I think
he's an underrated muppet. All right, Hey, I'd love to
talk Muppets with you, Mike, but I do me a favor.
Don't waste another twenty years before you call Nightside. I
might not be here. Okay, thank you, Okay, take it easy, Dan, bye,
have a great night. Thanks for listenings. We have had
(32:42):
an interesting collection of callers tonight, which is great. Michael
and Addleborough. Hey, Mike, welcome next on Nightside.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Hey, how you doing Dan?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Well? As I said before, I've done better. But we're
plugging along. Go right ahead. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I absolutely think there are other people out there. I
mean I believe it's that other call and called a
few calls are God that God put us here, and
you know what, are we high for Luton? And we're
like the only people on earth, I mean, the only
people in the world. I think there's definitely other people.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Well, I think again from from an intellectual point of view,
I've described it now several times that we're like one
piece of sand one grain of sand on the beach,
and look as far as you can see, and there's
a beach un to your left and the beach to
your right, and there's a lot of other pieces of
sand on that beach.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I just excuse me, I just saw Carver. Doesn't call
this guy out and put him on the front of
the Herald and call him a Quackbosh, He's not a crack,
he's a very I'm just hoping they don't do that.
They're good for that, you know. But hey, do you
remember the media you went to see up in New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yes I do, Yes, yes I do.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I read about that it actually land. You didn't actually
visually see it.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Did you know what happened was? And this is a
true story. Okay, I'm going to tell this story for
your benefit and for the benefit of the audience. I'm
a young reporter, maybe in my first year. This is
maybe the winter of nineteen seventy seven, and I get
a call at like one o'clock in the morning. Now
I'm working on regular nine to five ships, so I'm
(34:25):
happy asleep. I'm well asleep at that point. And they said,
we think that a spaceship might have landed in New Hampshire.
So they said, you've got to come in. We're going
to send you with a photographer to find out what's
going on. And I thought it was like an initiation.
(34:45):
I thought it was a prank. I thought that it
was I was going to walk in the room, the newsroom,
and that to be about five people pointing, laughing at me.
So I said, don't you know, don't don't do this
to me. They said, no, you got to come right now.
It just it just hit up in New Hampshire. So okay,
(35:06):
I come in and sure enough they're all excited. So
I got in the van in the car with this
fotog and all of a sudden, as we're driving, I'm
again still like half asleep. It's two thirty in the morning. Okay.
What had happened was this thing streaked across the sky
and it went into a lake and made a huge
hole in a lake. Okay, So we get up there
(35:28):
and my camera guy said to me, wouldn't this be
great if we have like the first Earthlings to meet,
you know, people from another planet. This is in nineteen
seventy seven, and I'm thinking to myself, oh my god,
you know I don't want to be like spending the
rest of my life with my camera guy in space
with some you know, Martians, And all of a sudden
(35:50):
I realizing this may be a bad situation. So on
the way up, everyone in New Hampshire had a gun,
was out on the road. Okay, they were all out,
and I'm thinking someone's going to shoot us. So we
get there and they would. We got close to where
it was, but they had police offices. They're really serious.
It turned out it was a meteor that did streak
(36:13):
across the sky and a lot of people thought this
was the real deal. But but it was. It was
It was a meteor. But I'm telling you, for a
few hours that night, I thought to myself, am I
going to end up like the only person who's going
to end up on a spaceship going? You know? I
mean I had a lot of friends. I didn't want
to lose my friends.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Oh I'm sorry. I just want to make a quick
go to your next person.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
How do you remember that they did that story? How
do you remember that? I remember because I was there.
How do you remember?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I remember you telling it? And I also saw it
on one of these history channels. Okay, God, I believe
about three or four years ago.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
But here's the media.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Rocket is worth money. So how come people on scuba
diving down they.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Were cutting it up.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Maybe they have already. I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe it was just a plain old media write it's
every meteorite isn't worth something?
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
The one that they found over in the desert, Sahara
Desert that I think just sold at auction for like
fifty thousand dollars because it came off of Mars. They
were convinced they did, you know, studies on it came
from Mars. Hey, I got to run, Michael. I appreciate
your call and thank you for giving me the opportunity
to tell that story. But that is a true story,
(37:30):
and I can I remember being terrified, thinking I'm going
to spend the rest of my life in another somewhere else,
and I'm gonna be with this guy, this camera guy,
who was a nice guy, don't get me wrong, but
you know, it was terrifying because I'm thinking they're going
to do all sorts of experiments on me and him.
Now again, it's four o'clock in the morning at this
(37:51):
point when I'm thinking about it, but it was terrifying.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
A separate thing. They drive, you can and the reporters
to the place.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Sure, back in those days. Back in those days, got
a run. Here comes the newscast, Thanks Michael. All Right,
if you're on the line, stay there. If you're not
light up the line six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I want to talk about other planets where where people
actually might live. Coming back on Night Side,
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