August 12, 2025 • 35 mins
A recently discovered interstellar object being likened to a comet by some scientists is on an “extremely unusual course” that will take it close to three different planets: Venus, Mars and Jupiter, says Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. Loeb believes the unidentified object is an alien craft saying, “The chance of a natural space rock randomly flying along that path is less than 0.005%.” Do you believe in alien life form? Tulsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence says she believes aliens could “possibly be real”.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's nice eye with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's
Nach Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, we are talking about but we haven't done
this in a long time. We are talking about life
on other planets, simple as that, okay. And the reason
we're talking about life and other planets is Professor Ave
Lope Harvard University says that a very powerful telescope in
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Chile has spotted this object that is twelve miles in diameter,
moving towards us very quickly at the rate of about
thirty seven miles per second. Do the math on that,
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and it's about eighteen hundred miles eighteen hundred miles an hour, okay,
and which would mean that excuse me, eighteen hundred miles
a minute a minute, okay, So we could go from
here to New York in five seconds. New York's about
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two hundred miles. So he says, we don't know what
this is. We don't think it is a comet, pretty
sure about that, but the size of it doesn't He
doesn't think it's space junk. Excuse me, it's a rock
or something like that. And we're just talking. We're you know,
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this is a Tuesday night in the middle of August.
We'll talk about Putin and Trump later this week, but
as I mean, no sense of talking about it tonight.
So I'm interested. Rob played that cutsea of this is
Professor Loebe. We interviewed him during the eight o'clock hour.
His story has been around for a few days, and
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I think it's really interesting. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yea months ago, I decided to define a new scale
that is now called the Lobe scale after my last name,
where zero suggests that an interstellar object that came from
outside the Solar System is natural, you know, like a comet.
We have clear evidence that it's a rock or an
icy rock, and a ten on that scale implies that
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it's definitely technological because its maneuvers or has you know,
broadcasts some signals or shows the artificial lights. And then
on this scale between zero and ten, I would give
it a fours of now because we just don't have
enough data about it, and there are all these peculiarities
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about the trajectory that it shows coming close to planets,
and also the fact that it's so big in order
to reflect enough sunlight to appear so bright.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah. So again, he's a scientist, he's a physicist and
an astronomer. So I'm asking you what do you think.
I mean, I don't think that there's a definitive answer
that any of us haven't have strong beliefs. Let me
go to Jay up in Maine. Hey, Jay, appreciate you
waiting through the news. You're next on nightside. You need
you just to reset that for the audience who has
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not been listening so far. Go ahead, Jay, good to
hear you in there. Dan.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
You know there's so many people if you listen to
the radio, everything's a Democrat, Republican, this ism, that ism
and issues that they'll tell you and don't talk religion,
don't talk politics. Well, they beat the politics up so much.
It's good that you throw Religion is a lifestyle and
the way people think about things, and so that's a
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pleasant relief from all of the agendas that everybody throws
at you. And I just I thought i'd pass along
just a little bit of an idea, say like, if
we're helping one person, might not change the whole world
thinking about issues that you and I and people look at,
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but if you help this one person, it could change
the world for that one person. That's like that grain
of sand thing you're talking about relating to the planets
and life and all of that. If we're God's children there,
from what I've seen in my readings over the years,
there's other life out there and they have superior intelligence
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from us, and they're watching us as we battle between
the Good Lord and the devil and which side are
we going to go on? So we don't have really
a prepared presentation, but I figure, like Bob Dylan would
say out there when he sang his song, you got
to serve somebody, We're going to do it my way,
Frank Sinatra, or we're going to do it God's way.
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So out there you're watching and where are we at.
Are we making choices to be selfish and it's got
to be my way? Or are we going to make
space for the Good Lord to give us my ideas
what he'd liked us to do. What do you think
of that one?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, I think the first of all, there's a lot
of people in my audience, there's a lot of people
in America, there's a lot of people around the world
who are faith based, okay, And there's nothing wrong with
people who are faith based. I like to think of
myself as a faith faithful person. I have a belief
in God. I happen to be Roman Catholic, but I'm
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much more tied to the idea of a relationship with God.
I just happened to have been born Roman Catholic. Okay.
I think that there are great people who are Jewish,
great people who are Muslim, great people who were sik
great people who you know, come from every walk of life.
There are probably great people who live in parts of
the world who have no concept of of of a
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supreme being or a deity or God. But if they
live a good life, they're they're great people too. So
I don't look at it like, you know, when I
was a uh in in elementary school with the nuns
back in the day, it was like, if you're not
a Catholic, you can't get the heaven, and you know,
and over time you realize that, hey, that's not true.
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I mean, if there's a God, he's going to look
at people and say, okay, hopefully most people get the heaven.
But putting that aside, if there is a God and
he could create the planet Earth, what would say that
we couldn't complate you know, planet X. You know, on
the other side, of whatever he created. And if there's
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not a god and we were all just the coincidence
of you know, the replications of DNA over time. If
it can happen here in that distance from the sun,
that perfect ninety million miles, a little closer we burn up,
a little further away, we freeze. It could happen here,
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couldn't happen somewhere else. The other thing is that the
one thing that would unite the world if tomorrow we
found out that there were alien creatures who were coming
to attack us, you know, I mean everybody would be
on the same page because it would all be in
the same boat.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So me and God's children, you know you, I over
the years, I catch you and a couple other guys. Ondz.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I try to be.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Cozy and not nosy. You got some children, You're not
going to get them along. You're not going to let
them get lumped up by some space alien monster. Blah blah.
So the Good Lord's protecting us, you know which you're
ninety three million miles away and not freezing and not
burning up. And the James Webb Telescope has some pictures
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out there that it's like shows us the creative power
of the Good Lord, and there's definitely some stuff out there.
I even heard one engineer talk about a parallel world,
which was, there's so much that we have to learn.
We have well that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
That's a book. That's a book by professor Brian Green.
And I believe he's a Columbia He's been a different
Ivy League universities. He's got a book called Parallel Views.
If you want to find it, you can find it. Uh,
it's been out for a while. And his his concept,
as I understand that, is that if infinity truly does exist,
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and if there's no limit on the number of our
loop things in existence, he believes that that there's some
guy named Jay who's talking to a talk show host
on some other planet, far far away, sort of a
mirror reflection, way above my pay grade. But you know, look,
I appreciate you you interjecting a different viewpoint here. Let's
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see what others if they can relate to what you
have to say, because I think you made some interesting points.
As always, you can go to you you.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Voice, sure next visit a good night.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Thank you Jay, talk to you soon. Taking a quick
break here six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty
that's the only line that are lines that are open.
I have two there. The other lines are fold So
don't waste your time dial six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. And again we're just talking about as I said,
Ivy Lobe, brilliant, brilliant Harvard astronomer and physicist, has spotted
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this item through the telescope that's in Chile, which apparently
in Chile, which is the most powerful in the world.
And this item, whatever it is, is coming our way,
and it has raised his concern it is certainly raised
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my questions. And that's what we're talking about tonight. It's
as simple as that we haven't talked about this particular
topic ever. We probably have talked about is there life
other than the life that we know about here on Earth,
you know, other planets, other galaxies. We've talked maybe once
or twice over eighteen years. So I thought we could
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talk about tonight before we do this breaker up. Play
that last SoundBite of Professor Loebe. This was from our
interview earlier in the eight o'clock hour. We're doing. This
is sort of what we call a tossover the item
for rap.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
There was plenty of time, most stars from billions of
years before the tun There was plenty of time for
any technological gadget to come to our cosmic neighborhoods from
far away, and I think it. You know, it's quite
likely that things like us existed before us billions of years,
and of course the best way to find them is
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to search. We should not have an opinion. That's the
way science is done. We should be guided by evidence,
and unfortunately we haven't really searched for intelligent beings in
this way before. Only over the past decade we found
objects from outside the solar system, and the way we
searched for intelligence was to wait for radio signals, which
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is just like waiting for a phone call at home.
I'm suggesting that a better approach is to check our
mailbox if there are any packages that were delivered from
a neighbor down the street, and even if the neighbor
is not alive, it will tell us that we are
not alone. So my personal conviction is that we are
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very likely not to be alone.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Night side with Dan ray I'ELLBS Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So the question is pretty simple, are we alone? Abby
Lowe says he's not your but he's watching this item
very carefully and it's if he's accurate, it has maneuverability,
and it's twelve miles wide, something that I think you
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should know about. Let's go to the phones. Let me
go to Brian Peboy. Brian, appreciate your patience. You kept
through the news as well.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Go ahead, Brian, Hey, Dan, how you doing great? Hey? Yeah,
I think you know. I don't think we need to
look too much further than our own backyard Exitter in
New Hampshire. I don't know if anybody he's mentioned the
Exeter incident, but that was probably one of the most
credible UFO sightings ever noted. Have you heard of that one?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah? I think that one you're talking is in the
late sixties. It was a husband and wife who claims
that they were abducted.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
No, no, not abducted. It was an eighteen year old
high school kid walking down the road trying to thumb
a ride. He sees the UFO. He makes his way
to the police station. Police officer gets in the car
takes him back to the site. The police officer sees it,
he calls another officer for backup. The second officer saw it,
so they had the teenager two police officers all documented
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what they saw in Exeter, New Hampshire. Yeah, you should
do a segment on that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I had never heard of that one. What do you
what do? Was this?
Speaker 7 (12:49):
It was the late sixties, well documented. They actually do
a UFO festival every year in Exitter, New Hampshire to
kind of like celebrate the whole thing and raise money
for charity, raise money for charity. But it's yeah, probably,
like you know, I've been interested in this stuff and
I've read about different things and stuff, and that's probably
the most credible sighting. I mean, they had three different witnesses.
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Another police officer actually there was a lady stopped on
the road and exit her and he pulled over and
was talking to her and she was just shell shocked.
She couldn't speak because she had seen it and she
didn't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Right, I'm looking this right here, Okay, I had never
heard it. I had heard of one in New Hampshire
a couple claimed to have been abducted. So I'm looking
at this is a story out of a Seacoast, New
Hampshire says in nineteen sixty five, which is a newspaper
up there. If I'm not mistaken. Where did this go on?
Me here now? Yeah. In nineteen sixty five, an eighteen
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year old Norman Muscorello spotted a UFO in a field
in Kensington, New Hampshire, and frantically reported the event to
the exit in New Hampshire Police Department. They and others
saw it too. The resulting report led to a book
length account the incident exited by John G. Fuller. Fifteen
years after the events, students at Exeter High School, with
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teacher Dennis Robinson, interviewed key people in the book. Again
the amazingly candid interview with Vietnam vet Muscarello. Well, so
it would have been he must have been gone to Vietnam.
Shed's added light on one of the most famous UFO
reports in American history. This interview includes questions from students
that appeared in a special nineteen eighty school newspaper Tale
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of an Extraterrestrial And there's a you're right, he says.
That's stumbing down Route fifty towards Exeter and Kensington near
mister Dining's farm. Clear night, I observed pulsating lights coming
from the north headed in this is very clear, ran
across the street. I actually dive. I fell because I
tripped on something and fell into the ditch, and I
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lay there with my head down. As they looked up,
it was like the whole side of this house, which
was next door next to this. He goes in, I
can't read this whole thing here.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, and if you read a police pulled up.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
When the police pulled up to the phone book, the
phone was dangling and there was nobody around. I assume
he probably just got scared and said, I don't want
anybody to think I'm a nut, and I want you
people to know that the only reason I went to
that station was because I thought I was cracking up.
I was pretty much your age. Wow.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Yeah, you should do a peace on that. And you know,
as far as like you know, the possibilities, like you know,
so like you said, a sand on the beach, grain
of sand. You know, other civilizations could be at different
points in their development, like we're probably very archaic still,
you know, I mean, we're still learning how to do things.
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But there could be other civilizations that are, you know,
hundreds of thousands of years more advanced than us.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And maybe that was what was that. You know, if
you listen to the interview with Abby Lowe. But it
was eight thirty at eight thirty or eight fifteen, it
was it was eight thirty in the eight o'clock hour.
That is what he posited. He said that there could
be civilizations that were much further advanced than us. But again,
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if you just google him, you'll see all sorts of stories.
Abi is his first name, Avi and his last name
is Lobe l o e B. So I just think,
I just think it's really interesting. And if it is,
I mean, if you know, you have you know, you
have the events in Roswell, New Mexico, which I think
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have been pretty much written off as a as a
military activity which went wrong. But we don't know. We
don't know, and we don't know what the government knows.
And one of the things that I believe that the
Trump administration wants to do is to get it out there.
You know, everybody's heard about Area fifty one. I guess
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out in Nevada, what are they doing out there?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
So yeah, you know, and getting back to a piece
you did earlier in the week, we need more. Diana Desauglio,
she can get on this and she'll get all the
news out there for us she'll honest it get We
need more of her, We need more of her.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
We do need more Diana Desauglios, to be really honest
with you, because what happens is some of these folks
get elected somewhere and they think at that point that
they're the keeper of all the secret information. I like
the idea that Telsea Gabbard has did an interview with
the New York Post in when she said that she
thought there was there was something she all but said it.
Let's put it like that. Hey, Brian, great, thank you
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for the information about the exit of New Hampshire situation.
By the way, Muscarello, the guy that told the story
at Exeter High School. He died in two thousand and
three at the age of fifty five.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yes, so he is passed on.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Yes, Unfortunately you can't consult him.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
No, no, but but you can find this interview and
you go from there, simple as that.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Okay, thank you, just watch, thank you, d take care.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
We have one line at six one, seven thirty and
one at six month, seven nine thirty. We'll be right
back on night side. Maybe Jeremy has an answer that
we've been looking for. We'll find out coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
All right, let's go next to Jay in New Hampshire. Jay,
you were next on Nightside. So what's your thought on
all of this?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Well, I'm actually, I guess I'm I'm way on the
other extreme for the most part. I think this was
all a very big deception. I think I think it's
very dangerous. Actually, I I'm really surprised at the at
the at the scientists she had on, you know, I mean,
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I understand now a lot of them are open to this.
And now, yeah, there was a time where I mean,
if you if you talk to any quote unquote scientists,
very educated scientists from you know, any of the big universities,
I mean, they would they would shut this down. They
would laugh at you. You know, they would say it's irrational, logical,
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everything else. But now it's just so funny to me
that within the last I'm telling I saw such a
big change within the last twenty ten years, maybe all
of a sudden, all of a sudden, they're all into it,
and you know, I guess I don't you know, I'm
I'm a bit conspiratorial these days. I'll admit that, But
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I don't trust anyone coming out of the institutions anymore, Hobby.
I mean, you know, I can't take their word for anything. Now,
maybe he's totally right about this, this object that coming
at us.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well, you know, if you get if you get it,
if you get a chance, I would not put someone
on the air, you know who was who did not
have some background. Uh, this guy is very serious, Okay,
I mean, just if you if you if you know
who Avi Lobe is, He's a very serious He's the
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he's the he's a physicist, he's an astronomer. Uh, he's
at Harvard. He's a full professor at Harvard. He's i
would say, early middle age. You know, this is not
someone who has been around and has has lost something
off his fastball. He he and he's he's not saying
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that they exist. He's saying that that we need to
keep an open mind. He's the director of the Institute
for Theory and Computation Center for Astrophysics at Harvard. They
don't hear no, you know, title was like that the
guys like you and me, that may be.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Yeah, I don't doubt it. I mean, but I'm still
surprised I've just noticed such a change, such a drastic change,
without any scientific evidence, and I you know, that's the thing,
Like he's got the skill that he created, you know,
ten ten being that you know he described his skill.
He said, it's ben being something you know, I think logical, Well,
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how do you even create a skill yet? If we
haven't even there's nothing ever even been found like that,
how can you create a skill? Well, he was saying,
I'm coming from like the layperson thing. I'm just trying
to say, trying to help you.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I think that what I took from the conversation with
Professor Lowe was that people were asking him, well, what's
the likelihood here. It's like saying to somebody, what's the
likelihood the Red Sox are going to win the World Series?
And you know tonight they won a game like eighteen
to one. Well, the average person is there, oh, eighteen
to one. Absolutely? Someone else will say, well, you got
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to look at the longer view of the season and
the competition and how difficult it is. And so he
came up with a scale, you know, zero to ten.
Most people say, you know, how good was the restaurant
on the scale of zero to ten? And if you
hate the restaurant, you say zero. If you loved it,
you said it's least a nine, maybe a ten.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
So what he was saying it, yeah, oh he had
to get your point.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
But he had the problem with what the.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Problem in your analogy is is that the Red Sox
really exists. Red Sox have actually won a World series,
you know what I mean. So he's creating a skill
of something that you know, never say.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But you should go back. What you should do tomorrow
is listen to the eight o'clock hour. He was on
at eight thirty. But it brief form is I understood it.
What he was saying was that that when you look
at this item that they see out there that is
about twelve miles wide, they're looking through this telescope in Chile,
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and they're looking at its maneuverability, they're looking at its speed,
they're looking at uh at what its direction is, where
it's likely to go. And they said, this doesn't look
like a comet. It doesn't look like something a natural
you know, meteor or something. It says, it looks a
little And he says, I can't prove it to be saying,
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you know, on a scale of zero, to ten, we
should be thinking, you know, like a four. That's I
think if you listen to his interview, he says it
better than I Jay, But he had.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
Some Yeah I heard, I heard that. I heard, well,
actually I heard the pots you're talking about. Now I
missed some other pots because I was driving through some
dead zones. But yeah, can I ask you this, Dan,
What did he sew if this is all okay? This
very well, maybe there is a real object out there
as he described, But what the one part I must
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have missed? And unless it things come up, but I'm
sure it did. So with all the calculations and everything,
when is that do to arrive?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He well, they apparently say that it will be quite close.
And again quite close is for us, you know, for
you and me, quite close as five miles, So quite
close to them is a couple of million miles. Uh
and whatever that whatever the calculation was October twenty ninth,
So this is something that will eventuate within the next
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two and a half months. And I think it's I
just think, you know what I haven't. I think it
was Einstein that he had He that his greatest curiosity
was his intellectual curiosity. I'm not Einstein. But I have
intellectual curiosity and it's something like this really interests me.
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How you know Brahms developed his opuses? Uh uh. You know.
I'm not a music I'm not musically oriented. I'm not
artistically oriented. You know what Picasso meant by this painting
or that painting. I'm not your guy. Okay, yeah, you
know my my my areas of interest are sports and politics,
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primarily with you know, sort of some interest in in religion,
and you know, and and it's applicability certainly history because
I think the past is prologue. But something like this
does interest me, and that's why I threw it out
there tonight. And we've had a variety of phone calls.
We've had some interesting phone calls, and we've had some
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that were quite thoughtful, like yours. So I thank you
for calling. I thank you being an interesting point counterpoint,
and let's see where this takes us in the next
couple of months. I think we're going to hear more
of this, and maybe we'll look at it and they'll say, hey,
it was nothing but a comment that was much larger
than we've ever seen. Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Ye see, Yeah, no, I get the cure the curiosity
of it. It does make for a good conversation. I
just I just actually, I just want to tell people
and want people like you care pull what you believe
because it does have uh, it does have origin of
life consequences, it does have religious consequences. People don't rid
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this is it's serious too. So that's all I wanted
to say.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
All Right, appreciate it, Thank you Jay, appreciate you calling.
All right, all I have a good one, good conversation
coming back on Night's Side. I got Mike, I got
Sadie's next, and I got Tim And if you want,
I could probably get one more in, but that's up
to you. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty
six one seven nine. Coming right back after night after.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
This, it's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
You're gonna pick the pace up a little bit. Let
me go to Sadie in Wooburn. Hey, Sadie, welcome to the Nightside.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
How are you good? Ray?
Speaker 10 (27:02):
How are you long time not talk?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Okay? What's all this? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (27:08):
I married a nuclear physicist who work in master Around
Hospital for twenty three and a half years, and he
was a believer in God, and my little girl, who's
not little anymore, twenty two years old, just graduated from
Boston University. She became an astrophysicist, and.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
This is your daughter.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Yes, wow, and yeah, she's been working on white dwarf
and so many people, professors have been complementing her that
she has seen eighty four stars. And now there are
thinking and discovering that there is a part of the
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you know, universe, there is water. And as soon as
she said that, mummy, that we are investigating and they're
not not them literally, and many scientists and physicists are
discovering that there is water in that area. And I said,
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what does it mean? And she said that there could
be people. And I said, remember that he was a believer.
He was a nuclear physicist. He became a medical physicist
later on, and a radiologist later on. And he had
also an encounter with the Lord Jesus in the hospital.
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We are living in an era ray then that God
is pouring his spirit. God is revealing so many things
to people, and we are science, we are like He
has been chosen so many leaders there is and also
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like Trump administration came, the Lord has been appointing all
of these things. We are living in an era that
truly the Lord is revealing himself in so many Well,
let us let.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Us hope that that he is a kind and gracious Lord,
and then that he understands all of us have, uh,
you know, frailties, and none of us are infallible except
for the Pope on matters of faith and morals. Let's
leave it at that. Okay, Sadie, I got to run.
I love your call. I hope you call more often.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
Okay, Yes, thank you. I have a wonderful evening.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Thank you very much. Mike is in Salisbury. Mike, I
got to get you and two more and Michael, right ahead.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
I just want to tell you about my experience that
I had with UFOs.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
So this is about twenty five years ago. I'm with
my girlfriend at the time, our parents. Our parents went
away on a business meeting and they asked us to
give it to her younger brother. I said, all right,
no problem.
Speaker 11 (30:02):
So we took her, took her brother.
Speaker 12 (30:03):
Own golf carding and the ice cream shop down to
Matta Poison and we go back and my wife at
the time with my girlfriend, gets him in the top
and I'm sitting.
Speaker 11 (30:14):
On the front porch and I'm smoking a cigarette and
I'm watching this white light to stuff that I'm like.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
What the hell is this thing?
Speaker 11 (30:22):
And then it comes down over Crescent Beach and I'm like,
what the hell is this?
Speaker 8 (30:26):
I tell her, No, was this.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
A cigarette that you that you bought in a pack
like a camel or what.
Speaker 11 (30:31):
Yeah, I don't do drugs, though, Yeah, I don't like
I'm teasing you.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'm asking, I'm teasing go ahead.
Speaker 11 (30:37):
And so she I tell her to come out. I
tell her to come out and look at this thing.
She's like, what the hell is that? I think it's
the UFO. And our little brother that we were babysitting,
like eight years old. He comes out, he looks at it,
and he starts freaking out and crying, and then the
thing just takes off. It's gone, and then like thirty
two seconds, like thirty seconds later, two f sixteenth come
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flying over them over the cart and they trying to
chase after it.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Okay, that's a legitimate I believe.
Speaker 11 (31:08):
I believe there is more off there than we think.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Fair enough, fair enough, my great call, thank you so much.
I just got to get two more real quickly in here.
But that was a great call, and I hope you
and your wife are doing well. Thank you, sir. Good night.
Let me get to Tim. Tim gonna get you in
one more in go ahead, Tim.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
I Dan, thank you were taking my car. I believe
in UFOs.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well you're not the only one. You just heard that
last story.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
That was interesting right tonight, as was Scut Gallon, the
old man from Wolving.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Sure.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Absolutely, yeah, he was on your show. He's going to
make sure I say that.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
He's a good guy. I wish he was still the
mayor of Wooburn. He's a good.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
Guy right well, right now. He's like you. He's an
attorney for the state. Okay, he works in the stayhouse.
All right, all right, family is great.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Okay. And Tim, when you see him, say hi for
me because I remember him.
Speaker 9 (32:10):
Well, okay, I'll see him all night. He told me
to make sure he said hi. He really liked you, and.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Right back the fellow. The feelings mutual. Thanks buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (32:20):
Be well, reason, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I got one more. I got to get in here, buddy,
talk to you soon. We got Mike in Dallas. Is
this law professor Mike?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Yes, it is so good to talk to you again. Great,
So I think we may be asking the wrong question.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That I asked the wrong question a lot. You go
ahead and tell me what the right question.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
You asked the right question, or you asked the great
questions to me, the question is this assuming that that's
from another civilization? Is it friend or is it fue?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:51):
And we as we as lawyers, could only go by
facts and facts, so we have inferences twelve miles in diameter.
I don't think that's an exploratory craft. It strikes me
that it is a craft. It's a warship.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Interesting point. I wish you were called earlier because this
would this would have opened up and entirely had Did
you hear the interview I did with Avi Loeber. No,
he's a fit physicist and a and an astronomer at Harvard.
He's very well lettered. Okay, Uh, that's an interesting point.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
I did hear the intereview. I thought it was great.
And this is a great topic.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Well, thanks Mike, you know, coming from you especially, it
restores my faith at the topic. We've had some people
tonight who told stories and uh, and and you you
kind of you cut to the to the Chase here
and and raised a very interesting question. He's he's insisted
it is twelve miles in diameter. Uh, and he believes
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that there are bright lights on it, and he doesn't
think it's a comic. So yeah, let's we will find
out soon. It's not like he's saying this is something
that will arrive fifty years from now. He's saying it
might arrive fifty days from now in late October.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yeah, I think that'll push everything else.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
There would It would be a very big story.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It would, Hey, Mike, at some point someday, I hope
we run into each other. Okay, if you ever get
up to Boston, you have my number. I hope did
Rob give you my direct mind?
Speaker 5 (34:30):
By the way, I sent you a copy of my
latest book. I don't know if you got it or not.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You know something I think I have and I left
it back at home by mistake. So I got to
make sure I can get that for some summer reading. Okay,
give me the name of the book so we can
we can plug the book a little bit real quickly.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Oh so, my book is about ETHX. It's called A
Short and Happy Guide to Professional Responsibility and is published
by West Academic. He shouldn't get it on Amazon, A
shortened Happy Guide to Professional Responsibility, and he has cartoons
in it as well.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
All right, do me a favor, leave them leave your number,
your cell phone number with Rob and he'll give you
my direct line. Okay, thank you very much. Professional. All right,
we're we are done for the night. Six months, uh,
six months, seven two thirty. I said it, all night long,
All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's
why Pal Charlie ray Is who passed who fifteen years
(35:24):
ago in February. That's why your pets are who had passed.
They loved you, You love them. You're going to see
them again. I'll hope to see you in the moor
night and night's I'll see you on Facebook at about
one minute. Thanks for listening, Thanks for calling. See you tomorrow.
Night
It's nice eye with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's
Nach Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, we are talking about but we haven't done
this in a long time. We are talking about life
on other planets, simple as that, okay. And the reason
we're talking about life and other planets is Professor Ave
Lope Harvard University says that a very powerful telescope in
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Chile has spotted this object that is twelve miles in diameter,
moving towards us very quickly at the rate of about
thirty seven miles per second. Do the math on that,
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and it's about eighteen hundred miles eighteen hundred miles an hour, okay,
and which would mean that excuse me, eighteen hundred miles
a minute a minute, okay, So we could go from
here to New York in five seconds. New York's about
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two hundred miles. So he says, we don't know what
this is. We don't think it is a comet, pretty
sure about that, but the size of it doesn't He
doesn't think it's space junk. Excuse me, it's a rock
or something like that. And we're just talking. We're you know,
(01:37):
this is a Tuesday night in the middle of August.
We'll talk about Putin and Trump later this week, but
as I mean, no sense of talking about it tonight.
So I'm interested. Rob played that cutsea of this is
Professor Loebe. We interviewed him during the eight o'clock hour.
His story has been around for a few days, and
(01:58):
I think it's really interesting. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yea months ago, I decided to define a new scale
that is now called the Lobe scale after my last name,
where zero suggests that an interstellar object that came from
outside the Solar System is natural, you know, like a comet.
We have clear evidence that it's a rock or an
icy rock, and a ten on that scale implies that
(02:22):
it's definitely technological because its maneuvers or has you know,
broadcasts some signals or shows the artificial lights. And then
on this scale between zero and ten, I would give
it a fours of now because we just don't have
enough data about it, and there are all these peculiarities
(02:44):
about the trajectory that it shows coming close to planets,
and also the fact that it's so big in order
to reflect enough sunlight to appear so bright.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah. So again, he's a scientist, he's a physicist and
an astronomer. So I'm asking you what do you think.
I mean, I don't think that there's a definitive answer
that any of us haven't have strong beliefs. Let me
go to Jay up in Maine. Hey, Jay, appreciate you
waiting through the news. You're next on nightside. You need
you just to reset that for the audience who has
(03:15):
not been listening so far. Go ahead, Jay, good to
hear you in there. Dan.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
You know there's so many people if you listen to
the radio, everything's a Democrat, Republican, this ism, that ism
and issues that they'll tell you and don't talk religion,
don't talk politics. Well, they beat the politics up so much.
It's good that you throw Religion is a lifestyle and
the way people think about things, and so that's a
(03:43):
pleasant relief from all of the agendas that everybody throws
at you. And I just I thought i'd pass along
just a little bit of an idea, say like, if
we're helping one person, might not change the whole world
thinking about issues that you and I and people look at,
(04:04):
but if you help this one person, it could change
the world for that one person. That's like that grain
of sand thing you're talking about relating to the planets
and life and all of that. If we're God's children there,
from what I've seen in my readings over the years,
there's other life out there and they have superior intelligence
(04:27):
from us, and they're watching us as we battle between
the Good Lord and the devil and which side are
we going to go on? So we don't have really
a prepared presentation, but I figure, like Bob Dylan would
say out there when he sang his song, you got
to serve somebody, We're going to do it my way,
Frank Sinatra, or we're going to do it God's way.
(04:49):
So out there you're watching and where are we at.
Are we making choices to be selfish and it's got
to be my way? Or are we going to make
space for the Good Lord to give us my ideas
what he'd liked us to do. What do you think
of that one?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, I think the first of all, there's a lot
of people in my audience, there's a lot of people
in America, there's a lot of people around the world
who are faith based, okay, And there's nothing wrong with
people who are faith based. I like to think of
myself as a faith faithful person. I have a belief
in God. I happen to be Roman Catholic, but I'm
(05:26):
much more tied to the idea of a relationship with God.
I just happened to have been born Roman Catholic. Okay.
I think that there are great people who are Jewish,
great people who are Muslim, great people who were sik
great people who you know, come from every walk of life.
There are probably great people who live in parts of
the world who have no concept of of of a
(05:46):
supreme being or a deity or God. But if they
live a good life, they're they're great people too. So
I don't look at it like, you know, when I
was a uh in in elementary school with the nuns
back in the day, it was like, if you're not
a Catholic, you can't get the heaven, and you know,
and over time you realize that, hey, that's not true.
(06:09):
I mean, if there's a God, he's going to look
at people and say, okay, hopefully most people get the heaven.
But putting that aside, if there is a God and
he could create the planet Earth, what would say that
we couldn't complate you know, planet X. You know, on
the other side, of whatever he created. And if there's
(06:30):
not a god and we were all just the coincidence
of you know, the replications of DNA over time. If
it can happen here in that distance from the sun,
that perfect ninety million miles, a little closer we burn up,
a little further away, we freeze. It could happen here,
(06:51):
couldn't happen somewhere else. The other thing is that the
one thing that would unite the world if tomorrow we
found out that there were alien creatures who were coming
to attack us, you know, I mean everybody would be
on the same page because it would all be in
the same boat.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So me and God's children, you know you, I over
the years, I catch you and a couple other guys. Ondz.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I try to be.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Cozy and not nosy. You got some children, You're not
going to get them along. You're not going to let
them get lumped up by some space alien monster. Blah blah.
So the Good Lord's protecting us, you know which you're
ninety three million miles away and not freezing and not
burning up. And the James Webb Telescope has some pictures
(07:38):
out there that it's like shows us the creative power
of the Good Lord, and there's definitely some stuff out there.
I even heard one engineer talk about a parallel world,
which was, there's so much that we have to learn.
We have well that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
That's a book. That's a book by professor Brian Green.
And I believe he's a Columbia He's been a different
Ivy League universities. He's got a book called Parallel Views.
If you want to find it, you can find it. Uh,
it's been out for a while. And his his concept,
as I understand that, is that if infinity truly does exist,
(08:13):
and if there's no limit on the number of our
loop things in existence, he believes that that there's some
guy named Jay who's talking to a talk show host
on some other planet, far far away, sort of a
mirror reflection, way above my pay grade. But you know, look,
I appreciate you you interjecting a different viewpoint here. Let's
(08:34):
see what others if they can relate to what you
have to say, because I think you made some interesting points.
As always, you can go to you you.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Voice, sure next visit a good night.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Thank you Jay, talk to you soon. Taking a quick
break here six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty
that's the only line that are lines that are open.
I have two there. The other lines are fold So
don't waste your time dial six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. And again we're just talking about as I said,
Ivy Lobe, brilliant, brilliant Harvard astronomer and physicist, has spotted
(09:07):
this item through the telescope that's in Chile, which apparently
in Chile, which is the most powerful in the world.
And this item, whatever it is, is coming our way,
and it has raised his concern it is certainly raised
(09:28):
my questions. And that's what we're talking about tonight. It's
as simple as that we haven't talked about this particular
topic ever. We probably have talked about is there life
other than the life that we know about here on Earth,
you know, other planets, other galaxies. We've talked maybe once
or twice over eighteen years. So I thought we could
(09:50):
talk about tonight before we do this breaker up. Play
that last SoundBite of Professor Loebe. This was from our
interview earlier in the eight o'clock hour. We're doing. This
is sort of what we call a tossover the item
for rap.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
There was plenty of time, most stars from billions of
years before the tun There was plenty of time for
any technological gadget to come to our cosmic neighborhoods from
far away, and I think it. You know, it's quite
likely that things like us existed before us billions of years,
and of course the best way to find them is
(10:27):
to search. We should not have an opinion. That's the
way science is done. We should be guided by evidence,
and unfortunately we haven't really searched for intelligent beings in
this way before. Only over the past decade we found
objects from outside the solar system, and the way we
searched for intelligence was to wait for radio signals, which
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is just like waiting for a phone call at home.
I'm suggesting that a better approach is to check our
mailbox if there are any packages that were delivered from
a neighbor down the street, and even if the neighbor
is not alive, it will tell us that we are
not alone. So my personal conviction is that we are
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very likely not to be alone.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Night side with Dan ray I'ELLBS Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So the question is pretty simple, are we alone? Abby
Lowe says he's not your but he's watching this item
very carefully and it's if he's accurate, it has maneuverability,
and it's twelve miles wide, something that I think you
(11:41):
should know about. Let's go to the phones. Let me
go to Brian Peboy. Brian, appreciate your patience. You kept
through the news as well.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Go ahead, Brian, Hey, Dan, how you doing great? Hey? Yeah,
I think you know. I don't think we need to
look too much further than our own backyard Exitter in
New Hampshire. I don't know if anybody he's mentioned the
Exeter incident, but that was probably one of the most
credible UFO sightings ever noted. Have you heard of that one?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah? I think that one you're talking is in the
late sixties. It was a husband and wife who claims
that they were abducted.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
No, no, not abducted. It was an eighteen year old
high school kid walking down the road trying to thumb
a ride. He sees the UFO. He makes his way
to the police station. Police officer gets in the car
takes him back to the site. The police officer sees it,
he calls another officer for backup. The second officer saw it,
so they had the teenager two police officers all documented
(12:40):
what they saw in Exeter, New Hampshire. Yeah, you should
do a segment on that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I had never heard of that one. What do you
what do? Was this?
Speaker 7 (12:49):
It was the late sixties, well documented. They actually do
a UFO festival every year in Exitter, New Hampshire to
kind of like celebrate the whole thing and raise money
for charity, raise money for charity. But it's yeah, probably,
like you know, I've been interested in this stuff and
I've read about different things and stuff, and that's probably
the most credible sighting. I mean, they had three different witnesses.
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Another police officer actually there was a lady stopped on
the road and exit her and he pulled over and
was talking to her and she was just shell shocked.
She couldn't speak because she had seen it and she
didn't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Right, I'm looking this right here, Okay, I had never
heard it. I had heard of one in New Hampshire
a couple claimed to have been abducted. So I'm looking
at this is a story out of a Seacoast, New
Hampshire says in nineteen sixty five, which is a newspaper
up there. If I'm not mistaken. Where did this go on?
Me here now? Yeah. In nineteen sixty five, an eighteen
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year old Norman Muscorello spotted a UFO in a field
in Kensington, New Hampshire, and frantically reported the event to
the exit in New Hampshire Police Department. They and others
saw it too. The resulting report led to a book
length account the incident exited by John G. Fuller. Fifteen
years after the events, students at Exeter High School, with
(14:10):
teacher Dennis Robinson, interviewed key people in the book. Again
the amazingly candid interview with Vietnam vet Muscarello. Well, so
it would have been he must have been gone to Vietnam.
Shed's added light on one of the most famous UFO
reports in American history. This interview includes questions from students
that appeared in a special nineteen eighty school newspaper Tale
(14:34):
of an Extraterrestrial And there's a you're right, he says.
That's stumbing down Route fifty towards Exeter and Kensington near
mister Dining's farm. Clear night, I observed pulsating lights coming
from the north headed in this is very clear, ran
across the street. I actually dive. I fell because I
tripped on something and fell into the ditch, and I
(14:54):
lay there with my head down. As they looked up,
it was like the whole side of this house, which
was next door next to this. He goes in, I
can't read this whole thing here.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, and if you read a police pulled up.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
When the police pulled up to the phone book, the
phone was dangling and there was nobody around. I assume
he probably just got scared and said, I don't want
anybody to think I'm a nut, and I want you
people to know that the only reason I went to
that station was because I thought I was cracking up.
I was pretty much your age. Wow.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Yeah, you should do a peace on that. And you know,
as far as like you know, the possibilities, like you know,
so like you said, a sand on the beach, grain
of sand. You know, other civilizations could be at different
points in their development, like we're probably very archaic still,
you know, I mean, we're still learning how to do things.
(15:45):
But there could be other civilizations that are, you know,
hundreds of thousands of years more advanced than us.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And maybe that was what was that. You know, if
you listen to the interview with Abby Lowe. But it
was eight thirty at eight thirty or eight fifteen, it
was it was eight thirty in the eight o'clock hour.
That is what he posited. He said that there could
be civilizations that were much further advanced than us. But again,
(16:11):
if you just google him, you'll see all sorts of stories.
Abi is his first name, Avi and his last name
is Lobe l o e B. So I just think,
I just think it's really interesting. And if it is,
I mean, if you know, you have you know, you
have the events in Roswell, New Mexico, which I think
(16:34):
have been pretty much written off as a as a
military activity which went wrong. But we don't know. We
don't know, and we don't know what the government knows.
And one of the things that I believe that the
Trump administration wants to do is to get it out there.
You know, everybody's heard about Area fifty one. I guess
(16:57):
out in Nevada, what are they doing out there?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
So yeah, you know, and getting back to a piece
you did earlier in the week, we need more. Diana Desauglio,
she can get on this and she'll get all the
news out there for us she'll honest it get We
need more of her, We need more of her.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
We do need more Diana Desauglios, to be really honest
with you, because what happens is some of these folks
get elected somewhere and they think at that point that
they're the keeper of all the secret information. I like
the idea that Telsea Gabbard has did an interview with
the New York Post in when she said that she
thought there was there was something she all but said it.
Let's put it like that. Hey, Brian, great, thank you
(17:38):
for the information about the exit of New Hampshire situation.
By the way, Muscarello, the guy that told the story
at Exeter High School. He died in two thousand and
three at the age of fifty five.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yes, so he is passed on.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Yes, Unfortunately you can't consult him.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
No, no, but but you can find this interview and
you go from there, simple as that.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Okay, thank you, just watch, thank you, d take care.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
We have one line at six one, seven thirty and
one at six month, seven nine thirty. We'll be right
back on night side. Maybe Jeremy has an answer that
we've been looking for. We'll find out coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
All right, let's go next to Jay in New Hampshire. Jay,
you were next on Nightside. So what's your thought on
all of this?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Well, I'm actually, I guess I'm I'm way on the
other extreme for the most part. I think this was
all a very big deception. I think I think it's
very dangerous. Actually, I I'm really surprised at the at
the at the scientists she had on, you know, I mean,
(19:00):
I understand now a lot of them are open to this.
And now, yeah, there was a time where I mean,
if you if you talk to any quote unquote scientists,
very educated scientists from you know, any of the big universities,
I mean, they would they would shut this down. They
would laugh at you. You know, they would say it's irrational, logical,
(19:24):
everything else. But now it's just so funny to me
that within the last I'm telling I saw such a
big change within the last twenty ten years, maybe all
of a sudden, all of a sudden, they're all into it,
and you know, I guess I don't you know, I'm
I'm a bit conspiratorial these days. I'll admit that, But
(19:48):
I don't trust anyone coming out of the institutions anymore, Hobby.
I mean, you know, I can't take their word for anything. Now,
maybe he's totally right about this, this object that coming
at us.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well, you know, if you get if you get it,
if you get a chance, I would not put someone
on the air, you know who was who did not
have some background. Uh, this guy is very serious, Okay,
I mean, just if you if you if you know
who Avi Lobe is, He's a very serious He's the
(20:25):
he's the he's a physicist, he's an astronomer. Uh, he's
at Harvard. He's a full professor at Harvard. He's i
would say, early middle age. You know, this is not
someone who has been around and has has lost something
off his fastball. He he and he's he's not saying
(20:45):
that they exist. He's saying that that we need to
keep an open mind. He's the director of the Institute
for Theory and Computation Center for Astrophysics at Harvard. They
don't hear no, you know, title was like that the
guys like you and me, that may be.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Yeah, I don't doubt it. I mean, but I'm still
surprised I've just noticed such a change, such a drastic change,
without any scientific evidence, and I you know, that's the thing,
Like he's got the skill that he created, you know,
ten ten being that you know he described his skill.
He said, it's ben being something you know, I think logical, Well,
(21:31):
how do you even create a skill yet? If we
haven't even there's nothing ever even been found like that,
how can you create a skill? Well, he was saying,
I'm coming from like the layperson thing. I'm just trying
to say, trying to help you.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I think that what I took from the conversation with
Professor Lowe was that people were asking him, well, what's
the likelihood here. It's like saying to somebody, what's the
likelihood the Red Sox are going to win the World Series?
And you know tonight they won a game like eighteen
to one. Well, the average person is there, oh, eighteen
to one. Absolutely? Someone else will say, well, you got
(22:10):
to look at the longer view of the season and
the competition and how difficult it is. And so he
came up with a scale, you know, zero to ten.
Most people say, you know, how good was the restaurant
on the scale of zero to ten? And if you
hate the restaurant, you say zero. If you loved it,
you said it's least a nine, maybe a ten.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
So what he was saying it, yeah, oh he had
to get your point.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
But he had the problem with what the.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Problem in your analogy is is that the Red Sox
really exists. Red Sox have actually won a World series,
you know what I mean. So he's creating a skill
of something that you know, never say.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But you should go back. What you should do tomorrow
is listen to the eight o'clock hour. He was on
at eight thirty. But it brief form is I understood it.
What he was saying was that that when you look
at this item that they see out there that is
about twelve miles wide, they're looking through this telescope in Chile,
(23:09):
and they're looking at its maneuverability, they're looking at its speed,
they're looking at uh at what its direction is, where
it's likely to go. And they said, this doesn't look
like a comet. It doesn't look like something a natural
you know, meteor or something. It says, it looks a
little And he says, I can't prove it to be saying,
(23:32):
you know, on a scale of zero, to ten, we
should be thinking, you know, like a four. That's I
think if you listen to his interview, he says it
better than I Jay, But he had.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
Some Yeah I heard, I heard that. I heard, well,
actually I heard the pots you're talking about. Now I
missed some other pots because I was driving through some
dead zones. But yeah, can I ask you this, Dan,
What did he sew if this is all okay? This
very well, maybe there is a real object out there
as he described, But what the one part I must
(24:03):
have missed? And unless it things come up, but I'm
sure it did. So with all the calculations and everything,
when is that do to arrive?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He well, they apparently say that it will be quite close.
And again quite close is for us, you know, for
you and me, quite close as five miles, So quite
close to them is a couple of million miles. Uh
and whatever that whatever the calculation was October twenty ninth,
So this is something that will eventuate within the next
(24:35):
two and a half months. And I think it's I
just think, you know what I haven't. I think it
was Einstein that he had He that his greatest curiosity
was his intellectual curiosity. I'm not Einstein. But I have
intellectual curiosity and it's something like this really interests me.
(24:57):
How you know Brahms developed his opuses? Uh uh. You know.
I'm not a music I'm not musically oriented. I'm not
artistically oriented. You know what Picasso meant by this painting
or that painting. I'm not your guy. Okay, yeah, you
know my my my areas of interest are sports and politics,
(25:23):
primarily with you know, sort of some interest in in religion,
and you know, and and it's applicability certainly history because
I think the past is prologue. But something like this
does interest me, and that's why I threw it out
there tonight. And we've had a variety of phone calls.
We've had some interesting phone calls, and we've had some
(25:46):
that were quite thoughtful, like yours. So I thank you
for calling. I thank you being an interesting point counterpoint,
and let's see where this takes us in the next
couple of months. I think we're going to hear more
of this, and maybe we'll look at it and they'll say, hey,
it was nothing but a comment that was much larger
than we've ever seen. Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Ye see, Yeah, no, I get the cure the curiosity
of it. It does make for a good conversation. I
just I just actually, I just want to tell people
and want people like you care pull what you believe
because it does have uh, it does have origin of
life consequences, it does have religious consequences. People don't rid
(26:26):
this is it's serious too. So that's all I wanted
to say.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
All Right, appreciate it, Thank you Jay, appreciate you calling.
All right, all I have a good one, good conversation
coming back on Night's Side. I got Mike, I got
Sadie's next, and I got Tim And if you want,
I could probably get one more in, but that's up
to you. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty
six one seven nine. Coming right back after night after.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
This, it's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
You're gonna pick the pace up a little bit. Let
me go to Sadie in Wooburn. Hey, Sadie, welcome to the Nightside.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
How are you good? Ray?
Speaker 10 (27:02):
How are you long time not talk?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Okay? What's all this? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (27:08):
I married a nuclear physicist who work in master Around
Hospital for twenty three and a half years, and he
was a believer in God, and my little girl, who's
not little anymore, twenty two years old, just graduated from
Boston University. She became an astrophysicist, and.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
This is your daughter.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Yes, wow, and yeah, she's been working on white dwarf
and so many people, professors have been complementing her that
she has seen eighty four stars. And now there are
thinking and discovering that there is a part of the
(27:55):
you know, universe, there is water. And as soon as
she said that, mummy, that we are investigating and they're
not not them literally, and many scientists and physicists are
discovering that there is water in that area. And I said,
(28:15):
what does it mean? And she said that there could
be people. And I said, remember that he was a believer.
He was a nuclear physicist. He became a medical physicist
later on, and a radiologist later on. And he had
also an encounter with the Lord Jesus in the hospital.
(28:37):
We are living in an era ray then that God
is pouring his spirit. God is revealing so many things
to people, and we are science, we are like He
has been chosen so many leaders there is and also
(28:59):
like Trump administration came, the Lord has been appointing all
of these things. We are living in an era that
truly the Lord is revealing himself in so many Well,
let us let.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Us hope that that he is a kind and gracious Lord,
and then that he understands all of us have, uh,
you know, frailties, and none of us are infallible except
for the Pope on matters of faith and morals. Let's
leave it at that. Okay, Sadie, I got to run.
I love your call. I hope you call more often.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
Okay, Yes, thank you. I have a wonderful evening.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Thank you very much. Mike is in Salisbury. Mike, I
got to get you and two more and Michael, right ahead.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
I just want to tell you about my experience that
I had with UFOs.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
So this is about twenty five years ago. I'm with
my girlfriend at the time, our parents. Our parents went
away on a business meeting and they asked us to
give it to her younger brother. I said, all right,
no problem.
Speaker 11 (30:02):
So we took her, took her brother.
Speaker 12 (30:03):
Own golf carding and the ice cream shop down to
Matta Poison and we go back and my wife at
the time with my girlfriend, gets him in the top
and I'm sitting.
Speaker 11 (30:14):
On the front porch and I'm smoking a cigarette and
I'm watching this white light to stuff that I'm like.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
What the hell is this thing?
Speaker 11 (30:22):
And then it comes down over Crescent Beach and I'm like,
what the hell is this?
Speaker 8 (30:26):
I tell her, No, was this.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
A cigarette that you that you bought in a pack
like a camel or what.
Speaker 11 (30:31):
Yeah, I don't do drugs, though, Yeah, I don't like
I'm teasing you.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'm asking, I'm teasing go ahead.
Speaker 11 (30:37):
And so she I tell her to come out. I
tell her to come out and look at this thing.
She's like, what the hell is that? I think it's
the UFO. And our little brother that we were babysitting,
like eight years old. He comes out, he looks at it,
and he starts freaking out and crying, and then the
thing just takes off. It's gone, and then like thirty
two seconds, like thirty seconds later, two f sixteenth come
(31:01):
flying over them over the cart and they trying to
chase after it.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Okay, that's a legitimate I believe.
Speaker 11 (31:08):
I believe there is more off there than we think.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Fair enough, fair enough, my great call, thank you so much.
I just got to get two more real quickly in here.
But that was a great call, and I hope you
and your wife are doing well. Thank you, sir. Good night.
Let me get to Tim. Tim gonna get you in
one more in go ahead, Tim.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
I Dan, thank you were taking my car. I believe
in UFOs.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well you're not the only one. You just heard that
last story.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
That was interesting right tonight, as was Scut Gallon, the
old man from Wolving.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Sure.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Absolutely, yeah, he was on your show. He's going to
make sure I say that.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
He's a good guy. I wish he was still the
mayor of Wooburn. He's a good.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
Guy right well, right now. He's like you. He's an
attorney for the state. Okay, he works in the stayhouse.
All right, all right, family is great.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Okay. And Tim, when you see him, say hi for
me because I remember him.
Speaker 9 (32:10):
Well, okay, I'll see him all night. He told me
to make sure he said hi. He really liked you, and.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Right back the fellow. The feelings mutual. Thanks buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (32:20):
Be well, reason, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I got one more. I got to get in here, buddy,
talk to you soon. We got Mike in Dallas. Is
this law professor Mike?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Yes, it is so good to talk to you again. Great,
So I think we may be asking the wrong question.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That I asked the wrong question a lot. You go
ahead and tell me what the right question.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
You asked the right question, or you asked the great
questions to me, the question is this assuming that that's
from another civilization? Is it friend or is it fue?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:51):
And we as we as lawyers, could only go by
facts and facts, so we have inferences twelve miles in diameter.
I don't think that's an exploratory craft. It strikes me
that it is a craft. It's a warship.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Interesting point. I wish you were called earlier because this
would this would have opened up and entirely had Did
you hear the interview I did with Avi Loeber. No,
he's a fit physicist and a and an astronomer at Harvard.
He's very well lettered. Okay, Uh, that's an interesting point.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
I did hear the intereview. I thought it was great.
And this is a great topic.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Well, thanks Mike, you know, coming from you especially, it
restores my faith at the topic. We've had some people
tonight who told stories and uh, and and you you
kind of you cut to the to the Chase here
and and raised a very interesting question. He's he's insisted
it is twelve miles in diameter. Uh, and he believes
(33:59):
that there are bright lights on it, and he doesn't
think it's a comic. So yeah, let's we will find
out soon. It's not like he's saying this is something
that will arrive fifty years from now. He's saying it
might arrive fifty days from now in late October.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yeah, I think that'll push everything else.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
There would It would be a very big story.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It would, Hey, Mike, at some point someday, I hope
we run into each other. Okay, if you ever get
up to Boston, you have my number. I hope did
Rob give you my direct mind?
Speaker 5 (34:30):
By the way, I sent you a copy of my
latest book. I don't know if you got it or not.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You know something I think I have and I left
it back at home by mistake. So I got to
make sure I can get that for some summer reading. Okay,
give me the name of the book so we can
we can plug the book a little bit real quickly.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Oh so, my book is about ETHX. It's called A
Short and Happy Guide to Professional Responsibility and is published
by West Academic. He shouldn't get it on Amazon, A
shortened Happy Guide to Professional Responsibility, and he has cartoons
in it as well.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
All right, do me a favor, leave them leave your number,
your cell phone number with Rob and he'll give you
my direct line. Okay, thank you very much. Professional. All right,
we're we are done for the night. Six months, uh,
six months, seven two thirty. I said it, all night long,
All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's
why Pal Charlie ray Is who passed who fifteen years
(35:24):
ago in February. That's why your pets are who had passed.
They loved you, You love them. You're going to see
them again. I'll hope to see you in the moor
night and night's I'll see you on Facebook at about
one minute. Thanks for listening, Thanks for calling. See you tomorrow.
Night
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