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Film Producer Carson Lund joined Gary to talk about his New England-set comedy drama “Eephus,” featuring a small-town pair of Sunday league teams playing their last game on a beloved baseball field set for demolition.
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Film Producer Carson Lund joined Gary to talk about his New England-set comedy drama “Eephus,” featuring a small-town pair of Sunday league teams playing their last game on a beloved baseball field set for demolition.
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(00:02):
When you're on Night Side with DanRay on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Hey, Wilton, Wilton, checkthis out. Pizza, Hot Fresh pizza,
sausage, Marinera extra, why Alfredosauce, Alright, wait for yours
(00:32):
day? All right day green Papezextra cheese, Porna mushrooms, pulled portrash
pizza, Parmazan cheese. What thehell is going on? Come on it
just it. It is what itsounds like. It's guys yelling out food
(00:54):
during a baseball game. That's whythis movie ephis is gonna be so good.
And we are joined by three greatguys. It's a triple play here,
Carson Lunn who's the director and cowriter, Mike Bosta who is the
co writer and assistant director. AndRuss Gannon who plays Bill Belinda, the
second baseman. And he's my friendand he put this all together, so
(01:15):
we're putting him on the radio.So this is a movie, everybody,
about one baseball game as it isbeing played for the last time on a
town field. Now, this wasa little movie that was filmed here in
Massachusetts. And then the next thingyou know, these guys get invited to
Kahn. So what an event,Carson, I'm going to start with you.
(01:36):
Why don't you just give us therundown of the film. Hey,
everyone, this film EPIS is certainlyinspired by my own experiences playing rec baseball.
I grew up in New England.I moved across the country to California
about almost ten years ago, andkind of I hadn't played for ten years,
(01:57):
and sort of when I came herein the weather was nice all year
round. I decided to start playingagain, and I felt after a few
seasons that I had enough material collectivejust from observing my teammates and playing the
game and a kind of you know, non competitive just goof around kind of
rec league on every Sunday. Youknow that, I felt like I had
(02:20):
enough material to write a script.And I brought into very close friends Mike,
who's sitting here next to me,and my other buddy Nate Fisher,
and we just had this kind ofunusual idea to write a film that would
basically follow one single baseball game.But the twist is that it's the last
game played on this field before itwill be demolished, So it's kind of
(02:46):
like a big end of an eracomedy. A bunch of middle aged guys
playing together, trying to come toterms with this pastime that may be fading
for them. So you shot thisfilm, I think over twenty eight twenty
nine days, and like you said, it's one baseball game and Rush you
play second base. Now that iscorrect. Now Russ claims he's a good
(03:07):
player. And we're going to getconfirmation on this coming up in a minute.
But Russ, what did you thinkof the project when it first came
to you? You know, Iwas checking. I auditioned for this almost
two years ago. I think Istarted in May. I spoke to Mike
(03:29):
and the scene that I auditioned withit is a very fun scene. It's
a seventh inning stretch scene, andI thought, well, this is a
this is a fun script. Iplayed baseball as a kid. I grew
up in New England. You know, socks fan for life, and it
(03:50):
just it seemed like a fun afun script and a fun group to be
a part of. So in whatfield does this take on? Carson?
Where did you guys shoot this?We found it in Soldiers Field in Douglas,
Massachusetts. I don't know if youknow much about that field, but
it has some pretty rich baseball historythat we didn't know about it first,
(04:13):
but the town commemorated it's one hundredand fiftieth anniversary with a scrimmage game between
the Red Sox and Yankees in Ithink nineteen forty six. So it's a
pretty storied, storied field that stillstands. It's it's changed a bit in
the in the years, but itstill has that old charm to it.
And we found it. We foundit after you know, scavenging New England
(04:35):
for the right field, and Iwant to say I probably visited one hundred
fields in that time before shooting,and that when Mike and I stumbled upon
that field, it was just likethe perfect field right away. We knew
what we knew we wanted to shootthere. So Cousty, did you feel
like you were just filming a baseballgame? Is that the way this worked?
(04:59):
Not quite? I mean, justthe nature of filmmaking is so piece
by piece, shot by shot,and because of the nature of how we
told this story, the continuity ofyou know, time passing from day to
night, that's what happens in thefilm. It was we had to be
very careful about where the where thesun was at any given point of the
(05:20):
day. So as a viewer you'rewatching it, you don't feel like we
just jumped suddenly from eight am tofive pm and it's still the second inning,
you know, So every day ofshooting, we'd be jumping around throughout
the day. You know, thecamera would only capture capture a little fragment
of the game. So really theactually the only playing that happens would happen
(05:44):
kind of at lunch. All theguys would you know, when they're finished
their lunch, they all go outand shag balls or you know, just
run around a bit like So,so it wasn't really like it like playing
an actual game. But but Icertainly, you know, you still get
the feeling of being there with everyoneon the on the grass. And I
would say that most of the timeI was directing, I was holding a
glove in my hands and throwing ballsfrom off off camera. So so for
(06:08):
me, it was it was alot like just scratching that itch. But
but I think to any observer ofthis this film production would would think,
man, this is the most boringgame of baseball ever played. But I
mean, Rush, did you evenfeel like you were acting? Though?
I mean you put on, Youput on the uniform, you get the
bat, you get the glove,you play. You didn't feel like you
were acting. Well, I feellike like Bill, Belinda and I are
(06:33):
very similar, you know. ThereHe's a nice guy, a family guy,
and so I felt the character waswas almost just a part of me
and I love playing baseball still,even though I hadn't played it in a
while. It didn't feel like ajob. I'll put it that way.
(06:55):
It felt like, you know,every day I would get there and Carson
can tell you I was one ofthe first people on set every day before
the sun even came up, soI could get into uniform and get out
while a mist was rising off thefield and get ready to start throwing the
ball around with someone. So itwas just it was such a fun experience.
(07:17):
It didn't feel like work. AndCarson, I have to tell you
that Rush was really pissed off becausehe's a good hitter and you made him
strike out in the movie. Yeah, well not only one. We made
him strike out a few times.But no, no, no, Rush,
(07:39):
you missed the ground ball. Thatwas it. You missed the ground
ball. Didn't you have to didn'tyou have to act to commit an error,
that made a key error. Yes, and I struck out and I
was hit by a pitch, andbut yes, I made a key error
in the game. And it wasit was tough. I think one take.
(07:59):
I couldn't do it. It wasit came to me and I just
I said no, I got toget the ball that my friend would.
I would say that the irony ofthe irony of Russ's character is that he
was actually one of the better playersamong the cast, but he had to
play this guy who was having oneof the worst games of his adult career.
So so Russ had to play downa bit. That's acting Carson,
(08:24):
that is acting my friend. Okay, coming up next week, we have
to talk about the name of thefilm, how they ended up at Cohn
and I mean, if the movie'scalled ephis you know who has to show
off. That's next on WBC's nightSide. Now back to Dan Ray Live
from the Window World Nightside Studios.I'm WBZ News Radio. An a lot
(08:56):
wrong with that one da hitball,Sol suprasking those kid fellas, what that
damn mask? Time tellers? AmI in a deli? Is this a
meat market? Am I selling youHam cut this and play do you like
(09:18):
Pisa on him, piece on him, him on pizza? Yeah, that's
pretty good. Hey, listen,you get two great things baseball and food.
Nothing better than that. The nameof the movie is Ephus. It
premiered at the Conn Film Festival.It was shot right here in Massachusetts,
made by local guys, with usis Carson Lundon, director, Mike Boston,
the assistant director and co writer,and Ruskanna, who plays Bill Bellina
(09:41):
at second Base. So, Mike, I want to ask you a question
here as the co writer, howmuch ad libing did you guys allow with
this film? Oh, it waspretty scripted for the most part. I
think we did allow some ad livingduring rehearsals, which we stuck with.
And actually, as an example ofthe in that clip you just sent with
you liked pizza on him, he'son him and on pizza. That was
(10:05):
in that lived that we later thatwe you know, we really love.
So we definitely tried to keep ouractors as close to the script as possible,
but whenever someone said something that wastruly like funnier than what we could
have imagined, we had to letthat just get into the film. Yeah,
and Mike, Why did you guyssend it this around? The ephis
pitch, which, for those whodon't know, was made famous by Billy
in nineteen seventy five when he senta meatball a blooper pitch to Tony Perez
(10:30):
that still has not come down yet. But why did you go with the
the ephis angle? Uh? Becausethe epis angle is sort of what this
film is about. In a way. Ephus pitches. You know, as
you were saying, it's a pitchso naturally slow that it kind of confuses
the batter, confuses you of justabout time passing, which is what we
believe for what watching baseball is like, where you know, so much time
(10:54):
to pass when nothing happens, butthen all of a sudden boom the play.
You know, someone hits crack ofthe bat, you certainly put right
back into the game, which issort of the philosophy put into the creation
of Esus. The you know,the story of watching these guys play this
game on the field, that itwill soon be gone and all go home
to their lives without you know,this extracurricular curricular activity and rush. What
(11:18):
was it like working with the spacemanBill Ye? If you don't know people
in in the scene where I makethe error, Bill Lee would turn around
and goes, hey, hey,you got to get down on that.
You let that ball ride up yourarm. And I said, yeah,
(11:41):
that's that's what the script says.And he's like, no, man,
He's like, you could have gottenthat. Bend your knees a little bit,
get down, don't let that ballissue up like that. I'm like,
Phil, it's the script. Yeah, well yeah, I hate the
word spaceman to the to the tothe point about improvisation versus scripted material,
(12:03):
I would say Bill, we hada script for Bill, but he's just
such a natural performer that he justdidn't even want to obey the script.
He went out there and had allhis own lines prepared. So so that's
an example of somewhere where the realityis too good. You know, you
can't stick to the script. He'sjust too funny on his own. I've
(12:24):
covered Bill. He doesn't prepare,Okay, it just happens. That's why
it's great stuff. So Tabi Carson, you get the word from con They
want you, you, guys.I saw pictures of Russ in a suit
over there with all the pretty people. Tell us about con You guys got
invited to the com Film Festival toshow your bad I mean that's amazing.
(12:46):
Yeah, it's pretty wild and justlike we're still kind of maybe in this
police a bit. It's definitely thebest possible outcome for an independent American film
to show there, to launch yourfilm that can with so many eyes,
so much press, so many industrypeople watching it, you know, from
(13:09):
around the world. Really, itjust gives you the best got at success,
you know, But it's not easyto get there. You kind of
got to pull a lot of stringsto get to make sure that you have
the attention of the programmers, andalso you've got to make a great film,
you know. And it's not likethat was our first attempt at getting
(13:31):
into a festival. We you know, we had a few other We had
about six months where we were submittingto other festivals and there's just so many
films that are made and so muchcompetition and only so much time for programmers
to like, you know, actuallyget a look at this stuff. So
you know, can can came knockingand we're just like so thrilled. But
between the time that we got acceptedand actually going to the festival. It
(13:54):
was like an absolute blitz Greek ofdifferent different tasks that we had to accomplish
just to get there with our team, just to make sure that we had
a sales agent on board so thatwe were best positioned to kind of give
the film a potential life after thefestival, which which I will say is
(14:16):
now very much going to happen,which is awesome. So it's like can
was the best possible place for usto end up, and I think it
went as well as it could havebecause we got great reviews. If you
search the film on Google, you'llfind any number of reviews from major trades
and major film publications, just youknow, kind of like really people who
(14:37):
really saw the film for what itis and this is at a festival in
France where they don't know anything aboutbaseball. Well that's why it's a great
movie, because the great sports moviesaren't about sports. Carson Lun, Mike
Bosta, russk On Russcannon Chiez Russ. I'll get your name right, ephis
is the name of the movie.Guys. We are up against it.
Look for people quickly. Is theregoing to be a premier day? Do
(15:00):
you know yet? So We don'tknow for sure yet, but what I
will say is that any day now, in the next few days, there
should be an announcement in the tradesabout a distribution deal. So we're hoping
to be able to show a numberof major markets around the country to be
determined on the actual release date,but it will be showing in theaters.
(15:22):
Guys, congratulations, great job.The name of the movie is Ephis We
got to go. Time for newswithout
When you're on Night Side with DanRay on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Hey, Wilton, Wilton, checkthis out. Pizza, Hot Fresh pizza,
sausage, Marinera extra, why Alfredosauce, Alright, wait for yours
(00:32):
day? All right day green Papezextra cheese, Porna mushrooms, pulled portrash
pizza, Parmazan cheese. What thehell is going on? Come on it
just it. It is what itsounds like. It's guys yelling out food
(00:54):
during a baseball game. That's whythis movie ephis is gonna be so good.
And we are joined by three greatguys. It's a triple play here,
Carson Lunn who's the director and cowriter, Mike Bosta who is the
co writer and assistant director. AndRuss Gannon who plays Bill Belinda, the
second baseman. And he's my friendand he put this all together, so
(01:15):
we're putting him on the radio.So this is a movie, everybody,
about one baseball game as it isbeing played for the last time on a
town field. Now, this wasa little movie that was filmed here in
Massachusetts. And then the next thingyou know, these guys get invited to
Kahn. So what an event,Carson, I'm going to start with you.
(01:36):
Why don't you just give us therundown of the film. Hey,
everyone, this film EPIS is certainlyinspired by my own experiences playing rec baseball.
I grew up in New England.I moved across the country to California
about almost ten years ago, andkind of I hadn't played for ten years,
(01:57):
and sort of when I came herein the weather was nice all year
round. I decided to start playingagain, and I felt after a few
seasons that I had enough material collectivejust from observing my teammates and playing the
game and a kind of you know, non competitive just goof around kind of
rec league on every Sunday. Youknow that, I felt like I had
(02:20):
enough material to write a script.And I brought into very close friends Mike,
who's sitting here next to me,and my other buddy Nate Fisher,
and we just had this kind ofunusual idea to write a film that would
basically follow one single baseball game.But the twist is that it's the last
game played on this field before itwill be demolished, So it's kind of
(02:46):
like a big end of an eracomedy. A bunch of middle aged guys
playing together, trying to come toterms with this pastime that may be fading
for them. So you shot thisfilm, I think over twenty eight twenty
nine days, and like you said, it's one baseball game and Rush you
play second base. Now that iscorrect. Now Russ claims he's a good
(03:07):
player. And we're going to getconfirmation on this coming up in a minute.
But Russ, what did you thinkof the project when it first came
to you? You know, Iwas checking. I auditioned for this almost
two years ago. I think Istarted in May. I spoke to Mike
(03:29):
and the scene that I auditioned withit is a very fun scene. It's
a seventh inning stretch scene, andI thought, well, this is a
this is a fun script. Iplayed baseball as a kid. I grew
up in New England. You know, socks fan for life, and it
(03:50):
just it seemed like a fun afun script and a fun group to be
a part of. So in whatfield does this take on? Carson?
Where did you guys shoot this?We found it in Soldiers Field in Douglas,
Massachusetts. I don't know if youknow much about that field, but
it has some pretty rich baseball historythat we didn't know about it first,
(04:13):
but the town commemorated it's one hundredand fiftieth anniversary with a scrimmage game between
the Red Sox and Yankees in Ithink nineteen forty six. So it's a
pretty storied, storied field that stillstands. It's it's changed a bit in
the in the years, but itstill has that old charm to it.
And we found it. We foundit after you know, scavenging New England
(04:35):
for the right field, and Iwant to say I probably visited one hundred
fields in that time before shooting,and that when Mike and I stumbled upon
that field, it was just likethe perfect field right away. We knew
what we knew we wanted to shootthere. So Cousty, did you feel
like you were just filming a baseballgame? Is that the way this worked?
(04:59):
Not quite? I mean, justthe nature of filmmaking is so piece
by piece, shot by shot,and because of the nature of how we
told this story, the continuity ofyou know, time passing from day to
night, that's what happens in thefilm. It was we had to be
very careful about where the where thesun was at any given point of the
(05:20):
day. So as a viewer you'rewatching it, you don't feel like we
just jumped suddenly from eight am tofive pm and it's still the second inning,
you know, So every day ofshooting, we'd be jumping around throughout
the day. You know, thecamera would only capture capture a little fragment
of the game. So really theactually the only playing that happens would happen
(05:44):
kind of at lunch. All theguys would you know, when they're finished
their lunch, they all go outand shag balls or you know, just
run around a bit like So,so it wasn't really like it like playing
an actual game. But but Icertainly, you know, you still get
the feeling of being there with everyoneon the on the grass. And I
would say that most of the timeI was directing, I was holding a
glove in my hands and throwing ballsfrom off off camera. So so for
(06:08):
me, it was it was alot like just scratching that itch. But
but I think to any observer ofthis this film production would would think,
man, this is the most boringgame of baseball ever played. But I
mean, Rush, did you evenfeel like you were acting? Though?
I mean you put on, Youput on the uniform, you get the
bat, you get the glove,you play. You didn't feel like you
were acting. Well, I feellike like Bill, Belinda and I are
(06:33):
very similar, you know. ThereHe's a nice guy, a family guy,
and so I felt the character waswas almost just a part of me
and I love playing baseball still,even though I hadn't played it in a
while. It didn't feel like ajob. I'll put it that way.
(06:55):
It felt like, you know,every day I would get there and Carson
can tell you I was one ofthe first people on set every day before
the sun even came up, soI could get into uniform and get out
while a mist was rising off thefield and get ready to start throwing the
ball around with someone. So itwas just it was such a fun experience.
(07:17):
It didn't feel like work. AndCarson, I have to tell you
that Rush was really pissed off becausehe's a good hitter and you made him
strike out in the movie. Yeah, well not only one. We made
him strike out a few times.But no, no, no, Rush,
(07:39):
you missed the ground ball. Thatwas it. You missed the ground
ball. Didn't you have to didn'tyou have to act to commit an error,
that made a key error. Yes, and I struck out and I
was hit by a pitch, andbut yes, I made a key error
in the game. And it wasit was tough. I think one take.
(07:59):
I couldn't do it. It wasit came to me and I just
I said no, I got toget the ball that my friend would.
I would say that the irony ofthe irony of Russ's character is that he
was actually one of the better playersamong the cast, but he had to
play this guy who was having oneof the worst games of his adult career.
So so Russ had to play downa bit. That's acting Carson,
(08:24):
that is acting my friend. Okay, coming up next week, we have
to talk about the name of thefilm, how they ended up at Cohn
and I mean, if the movie'scalled ephis you know who has to show
off. That's next on WBC's nightSide. Now back to Dan Ray Live
from the Window World Nightside Studios.I'm WBZ News Radio. An a lot
(08:56):
wrong with that one da hitball,Sol suprasking those kid fellas, what that
damn mask? Time tellers? AmI in a deli? Is this a
meat market? Am I selling youHam cut this and play do you like
(09:18):
Pisa on him, piece on him, him on pizza? Yeah, that's
pretty good. Hey, listen,you get two great things baseball and food.
Nothing better than that. The nameof the movie is Ephus. It
premiered at the Conn Film Festival.It was shot right here in Massachusetts,
made by local guys, with usis Carson Lundon, director, Mike Boston,
the assistant director and co writer,and Ruskanna, who plays Bill Bellina
(09:41):
at second Base. So, Mike, I want to ask you a question
here as the co writer, howmuch ad libing did you guys allow with
this film? Oh, it waspretty scripted for the most part. I
think we did allow some ad livingduring rehearsals, which we stuck with.
And actually, as an example ofthe in that clip you just sent with
you liked pizza on him, he'son him and on pizza. That was
(10:05):
in that lived that we later thatwe you know, we really love.
So we definitely tried to keep ouractors as close to the script as possible,
but whenever someone said something that wastruly like funnier than what we could
have imagined, we had to letthat just get into the film. Yeah,
and Mike, Why did you guyssend it this around? The ephis
pitch, which, for those whodon't know, was made famous by Billy
in nineteen seventy five when he senta meatball a blooper pitch to Tony Perez
(10:30):
that still has not come down yet. But why did you go with the
the ephis angle? Uh? Becausethe epis angle is sort of what this
film is about. In a way. Ephus pitches. You know, as
you were saying, it's a pitchso naturally slow that it kind of confuses
the batter, confuses you of justabout time passing, which is what we
believe for what watching baseball is like, where you know, so much time
(10:54):
to pass when nothing happens, butthen all of a sudden boom the play.
You know, someone hits crack ofthe bat, you certainly put right
back into the game, which issort of the philosophy put into the creation
of Esus. The you know,the story of watching these guys play this
game on the field, that itwill soon be gone and all go home
to their lives without you know,this extracurricular curricular activity and rush. What
(11:18):
was it like working with the spacemanBill Ye? If you don't know people
in in the scene where I makethe error, Bill Lee would turn around
and goes, hey, hey,you got to get down on that.
You let that ball ride up yourarm. And I said, yeah,
(11:41):
that's that's what the script says.And he's like, no, man,
He's like, you could have gottenthat. Bend your knees a little bit,
get down, don't let that ballissue up like that. I'm like,
Phil, it's the script. Yeah, well yeah, I hate the
word spaceman to the to the tothe point about improvisation versus scripted material,
(12:03):
I would say Bill, we hada script for Bill, but he's just
such a natural performer that he justdidn't even want to obey the script.
He went out there and had allhis own lines prepared. So so that's
an example of somewhere where the realityis too good. You know, you
can't stick to the script. He'sjust too funny on his own. I've
(12:24):
covered Bill. He doesn't prepare,Okay, it just happens. That's why
it's great stuff. So Tabi Carson, you get the word from con They
want you, you, guys.I saw pictures of Russ in a suit
over there with all the pretty people. Tell us about con You guys got
invited to the com Film Festival toshow your bad I mean that's amazing.
(12:46):
Yeah, it's pretty wild and justlike we're still kind of maybe in this
police a bit. It's definitely thebest possible outcome for an independent American film
to show there, to launch yourfilm that can with so many eyes,
so much press, so many industrypeople watching it, you know, from
(13:09):
around the world. Really, itjust gives you the best got at success,
you know, But it's not easyto get there. You kind of
got to pull a lot of stringsto get to make sure that you have
the attention of the programmers, andalso you've got to make a great film,
you know. And it's not likethat was our first attempt at getting
(13:31):
into a festival. We you know, we had a few other We had
about six months where we were submittingto other festivals and there's just so many
films that are made and so muchcompetition and only so much time for programmers
to like, you know, actuallyget a look at this stuff. So
you know, can can came knockingand we're just like so thrilled. But
between the time that we got acceptedand actually going to the festival. It
(13:54):
was like an absolute blitz Greek ofdifferent different tasks that we had to accomplish
just to get there with our team, just to make sure that we had
a sales agent on board so thatwe were best positioned to kind of give
the film a potential life after thefestival, which which I will say is
(14:16):
now very much going to happen,which is awesome. So it's like can
was the best possible place for usto end up, and I think it
went as well as it could havebecause we got great reviews. If you
search the film on Google, you'llfind any number of reviews from major trades
and major film publications, just youknow, kind of like really people who
(14:37):
really saw the film for what itis and this is at a festival in
France where they don't know anything aboutbaseball. Well that's why it's a great
movie, because the great sports moviesaren't about sports. Carson Lun, Mike
Bosta, russk On Russcannon Chiez Russ. I'll get your name right, ephis
is the name of the movie.Guys. We are up against it.
Look for people quickly. Is theregoing to be a premier day? Do
(15:00):
you know yet? So We don'tknow for sure yet, but what I
will say is that any day now, in the next few days, there
should be an announcement in the tradesabout a distribution deal. So we're hoping
to be able to show a numberof major markets around the country to be
determined on the actual release date,but it will be showing in theaters.
(15:22):
Guys, congratulations, great job.The name of the movie is Ephis We
got to go. Time for newswithout
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Join me on this podcast as I navigate the murky waters of human behavior, current events, and personal anecdotes through in-depth interviews with incredible people—all served with a generous helping of sarcasm and satire. After years as a forensic and clinical psychologist, I offer a unique interview style and a low tolerance for bullshit, quickly steering conversations toward depth and darkness. I honor the seriousness while also appreciating wit. I’m your guide through the twisted labyrinth of the human psyche, armed with dark humor and biting wit.