July 25, 2025 • 39 mins
Fenway Park concession workers went on strike Friday, ahead of a highly anticipated weekend series against the Los Angeles Dodgers. UNITE HERE Local 26, the union representing the concession workers, said the strike will last 3 days through the weekend. Despite the strike, Aramark, the workers’ employer, insists that they have contingency plans in place and will be ready for fans this weekend. Fenway concession workers are asking fans to boycott food, drinks, and souvenirs in support. Do you have plans to attend the Sox/Dodgers series this weekend? What do you plan to do?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBS cast in his
new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Sorry, so the Red Sox game is over. They lost
to the Dodgers tonight, opening up their three game series
with the Dodgers. They were wearing hats tonight with a
B on it. And for those of you who don't
remember the Los Angeles Dodgers migrated west, it was nineteen
fifty seven. They were the Brooklyn Dodgers and the hats
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stayble tonight with the old Brooklyn Dodgers Brooklyn blue hats
with a white bee emblem. So not a good well,
maybe a good look for them, but not a good
look for the Red Sox. Red Sox now fifty five
and fifty only two and five since the All Star break,
and tomorrow night they go back at it again. Now
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as people are getting in their cars and leaving Fenway Park,
I assume some of them, some of them are listening
to Night's Side And if you're on your way home
from the ballpark, love to know what it was like
you had to cross a picket line to get into
the ballpark. Did you buy concessions or did you support
the people who were on strike? The people who normally
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serve at the concession stands or carry refreshments, be they
hot dogs, beer, or whatever whatever else they carry into
the stands love to hear. So we're going to talk
about that. And we are also talking about this trend
toward a cashless economy in America, which I think is
a problem. I know that I'm probably a troglodite here
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and everyone's going to say, who carries cash? Well, I
think it's important to have some cash with you at
any time, because you never know. Cash can be king
or cash is king. And I think we're all concerned
about protecting our identities. Well, the more ways in which
you expose your identity to the world, the more likely
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is your identity might be compromised. Let me go to
Betty in the Boat. Betty in the Boat, thanks for
calling back. I know the last time you called you
were telling me that you had a little bit of
a medical diagnosis and a lot of people are rooting
for you. Betty. How you feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I'm doing fine. The only thing I can say is
that I feel as though the statue has been taken
out and I say.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, Betty, let me ask you. Are you on speakerphone
or something? Because you sound quite distant, and I want
to hear exactly what you have to say.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
What I believe in a.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Cash decide and I will do any transaction in buying
products with criticized. If I go to a bank rate,
I paid cash because by paying cash enable time for
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the bank get you go out tomorrow and buy supply
to be mainly in order to mind his bakery shop.
If I pay by credit card, I cannot. And if
I'm conscious, you know that this man is trying to
get his funds tomorrow. They're going to get him in
three months.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
That's true. That's true, and they're also going to have
to pay a discount on it. Betty. I'm going to
have Rob trying to clean up your line a little
bit because I want to hear what you say. Don't
hang up. Rob is going to take over the call.
He'll clean up your line and we will come back
to you, I promise. Let me go to Peter and Medford. Peter,
welcome back. We talked about Medford a little bit last night.
By the way, Peter, hope you heard it.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Oh, I bet Dad. Sorry? Then, So my thing is
like you, I can carry cash in my pocket, but
now I've got cash with legal tenda and it's accepted
everywhere and the government stands behind it. Go on cash list.
I don't understand it. I don't always like to use
a credit card, but ten that accepted.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think I think that's I think that's a great
point that you raise. But I know that at Fenway Park,
I'm told it is cashless there, and maybe some listeners
who are on their way home for the ball game
will confirm that for us. I also believe it's cashless
at at Gillette Stadium. And if it's cashless at Fenway
and at Gillette, I guarantee you it's cashless, cashless at
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other venues, you know, major sporting venues around the country.
I don't understand why. I mean, do the owners of
these teams have lack of money and they're afraid that
they're being ripped off. I hope there's pill for it's
going on. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
So we know that Jacobs have lots of money. We
know the Yache Association, Well.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's John Henry, now it's John John.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Henry, and.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Yeah, they got plenty of money. But again, how can
they say we're not taking cash? They don't. I don't
understand how they can get away with that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I think that's a great question. I don't have any answer.
I don't have any answer for that, to be honest
with you, and maybe someone will.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
If there's some piece of legislation in Washington which gives
corporations public sporting, you know, what happens is the lobbyists
will write one little paragraph or one little sentence buried
in some piece of legislation which will say that major
sporting venues of over you know, a capacity of thirty
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thousand seats are hereby. They don't have to, you know,
they're an exception, and the lobbyist gets it in there
and they love it. I don't know. I just I,
honest to God, don't have an answer. Maybe someone will.
But I think it's a great point you raise. I
wish I had thought of it. I should have thought
of it. Cash's legal tender and it's supposed to be
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accepted everywhere.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Right, So the next thing is the young folks using
a credit card, Well, they're getting the point for the reward.
That's where they at it, and it gets they'll get
automatically taken out of that checking account.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It'll be one well, Bill, I get that, that's another option.
But what I'm saying is, if I'm a vendor, if
I own a restaurant, I would I prefer to give
a little bit of a discount to the cash customers.
So if the bill is, I don't know, one hundred dollars,
why not say, look, I'll give you a four percent discount.
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Because if you pay for it a credit card, I'm
only going to get ninety six dollars from the credit
card company because the credit card takes their little slice.
Why not give that to your customers.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Well, you see that on restaurants there the Cape, They'll
say pay cash, save four points. Okay with that. I
like paying cash.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But that's what I'm saying. There's there's advantages. There's absolute advantages, Peter.
There's a thing going on in med where they're trying
to well, we talked about last night. You should go
and listen to our nine o'clock hour last night. It
was all about Medford. And there's a group in the city,
the city council, who are looking to change the zoning
laws in Medford. Medford, and and that's all, well, that's good.
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You should get involved in that because if you don't.
The character of Medford is going to change dramatically overnight.
It's going to become a suburb of Somerville.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I'm on top of it, and I thank you much.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
A Cambridge.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, Peter is always keep keep listening to Nightside. Thanks
for calling in. You made some great points. Thank you, sir,
Thank you. That's a great night. Okay, uh we rob
Hopefully we can get Betty. Betty in the boat back.
I'll talk to you during the break here. We're going
to take a quick break. Coming right back on nights Side.
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I got Lola, I got Nick, I got Ali, and
I got room you. The only line is open right
now with six one, seven nine, And if you're heading
home from the ballpark, I particularly would love to hear
from you as to what it was like there tonight.
What was it like to cross a picket line? Did
you buy concessions inside? What was the atmosphere like? The
baseball game didn't go too well for the Red Sox.
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They lost there now fifty five and fifty, and it's
a it's a tough situation to be in because you
are you buyers and sellers. We'll find out coming back
on Nightside, I hope they're buyers.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Back to the phones we go, gonna go to Lola
in Watertown.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Hey, Lola, how are you, Hike, Dan?
Speaker 7 (08:41):
I'm great, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Just excellent? What's your take on all of this, the
cashless economy or what's going on at Fenway Park or
outside of Friendway Park?
Speaker 7 (08:51):
I should say, well, so the cashless society just started
during COVID. Yeah, and that's where the dirty money started
because people were afraid to touch the money because of COVID. So,
I mean, you know, I'm living in San Diego and
all of a sudden everything started going to digital credit
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cards only blah blah blah. So don't frequent places that
don't take cash. But it gets even better. They'll take cash,
no change. So if it's thirty one dollars in one cent,
they don't give you ninety nine cents back. Really they'll
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take yeah oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So wait, wait will when you give someone thirty two dollars? Okay,
I always have coins in my pocket, but let's assume
all you have is thirty two and you say to
the person, let's say I go to San Diego. I'm
going to say, hey, what's the deal here, it's thirty
two dollars you mean ninety nine cents.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
What are they going to say, we don't give change back?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay? So what about if I pull a penny out
of my pocket and say, okay, there's the penny, give
me my dollar.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
B Yeah, well that's the thing. I got stuck. So
then I started going to the bank and make sure
and I had change, okay, because I had tens, five, ten, five, twenties,
So I'm like, whoa, I did start carrying one and
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then yeah, carry change.
Speaker 8 (10:31):
But you have any.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Change, you give me a call and I'll FedEx you
some change overnight. Okay.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
I'm just saying this actually happened to me. And one
store I went into this was this was like two
years ago. For some reason, I made sure I had
exact change, and I walked into this store and right
outside the door, I took a picture of it. It
says we do take cash, but we don't have any
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change like you. So but he is now and so
now you have all these young kids and they love plastic,
and I don't like to. I don't want anyone to
know that I went to the drug store, and then
I went to the gas station, and then I went
to Dunkin Donuts. I feel like I'm being watched, okay,
which I know we are. I know these cameras all
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over the place. I get it. But I like paying cash.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
So I'll tell you my attitude is, if I'm going
to a store and it's worth and it's over thirty bucks,
I'm putting it on a card, okay. But if it's
under thirty bucks or so, I'm going to pay cash
because it's really not worth it. If I'm at a
dunkin Donuts, I'm going to pay cash. Right, you can't
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spend thirty bucks. But I believe in credit cards. But
I only have one that I use. Okay, it's as
simple as that. I don't want to have. I have
friends of mine who have ten credit cards and they
have no idea how much there is old on each
or whatever. That's crazy. That's living your life like a madman.
In my opinion.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Well, if they have a bottomless pit of money in
the bank and it's all on automatic, they don't care.
They just go here, use this cad here.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You're going out, But then you do lose track of it.
So I got a question for you. Okay, you send
me an email today. Are you going to this event
in South Grafton on Sunday?
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Yes, I am Sunday. I'm going to the pow wow.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeap, give it a plug, Give it a plug.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
So there's a pow wow in South Grafton on Sunday,
July twenty seventh. It starts at ten. It's a five
dollars entry fee. And why I'm going is it's the
Nipmunk tribe, which was the first tribe in the country
to sign a treaty with the United States and it
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was signed in Watertown. Oh and oh yeah, this is history.
Like why aren't they doing this in Watertown? Because they were,
but they dropped it. The town ended up dropping it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay, So this is I'm just.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Going to support the Native American because because they're the
Native Americans.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
So this is it looks to me like it's on
twenty five Main Street in South Grafton.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
Yeah, I've never been there. I'm just venturing out there.
And why am I? You know, this is how I
found out about it. I went to a spa in
Southborough and the girl says, we got a new restaurant
inside the facility. It's separate, but their retina space. You
should go have it. It's Mexican food, and I'm like, look,
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I eat Mexican real Mexican in California. I'm not, you know,
I'm not going to no Mexican place. She goes dry it,
so I did. And the sour dough bread, it's either
beat a spinach and I go, rust, I go, I
want a slice of each. So I'm going to see
this woman that bakes the bread that I got at
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the spot.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, So again, it's at South Craft and twenty five
Main Street, and it's it starts at ten o'clock on Sunday.
You know, I accommodated you with a plug here because
I happened to notice it and I saw you called it, Lola.
I got a screwed here because I got packed ons.
I gotta keep roy.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
I got a bunch of stuff to tell you off
the off the radio. You know, good, I got Jazz.
I saw Chazz last week? You got what thank you
you did?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
You know Chazz I went and saw the bronze tail
because of you.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh good? Did you meet him?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (14:45):
I did? And that was a cash transaction only, And
did you tell him afterwards?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Did you tell him you heard about it on Night side?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I did. You're the best, and I wanted I want
him to come to San Diego. It was you have
to go see that show. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Okay, Lola, I've got a roll here. I love the call.
Thank you so much, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
A great Okay, absolutely, good night.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Let me go to Ali in Boston. Ali, you were
next on nights. I go right ahead.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Hey there.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
I was at North Station a couple of weeks ago
for the w NBA game, and I'm just trying to
think what that would have been like if twenty five
percent of the people wanted to pay for cash, those
already long lines would have been fifty percent longer, and
everybody would have been so unhappy. There's just no way
they could make change in that kind of situation anymore.
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It just doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Really. That's interesting. First of all, I disagree with you,
but that's okay. One I I believe that people should
be able to use whatever legal tender they have, but
we'll put that aside for a second. Yeah, they're not yelling.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I can tell.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I can tell by your voice. You're what are you?
Gen X? What what are you? If I could ask.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Older than you think, I am.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, Well you still got a great voice. Okay, no problem,
at least compliment the voice.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
It's a very I do.
Speaker 9 (16:13):
I do carry cash around. I like to use it
as small businesses, farmers' markets where it matters to them
and the credit card fees kill them.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
But PlayN just do the credit card, get it over with,
speed it up.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I understand that argument. I do understand that argument. What
percentage of the people do you think at at the
TD garden we're dealing with plastic.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
I couldn't tell you they didn't want cash. You had
to put your order unto a screen and give a
credit card.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Oh I see, so you okay, So what you're saying
is you didn't have a choice.
Speaker 9 (16:49):
I don't think I had a choice. Didn't bother me.
But I was trying to imagine based on this conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I totally totally get it. But I'm what I'm talking
about is if I go to the garden and they
want my money and my preference is to pay with cash,
and if I have that strong preference, I can sit
through a Bruins game or a Celtics game or a
w NBA game. I don't have to have a beer
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and overpriced, you know beer. I'm more than happy to
go buy a beer after the game at one of
the local watering holes. So if they don't want.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
To competition entirely, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I mean they make they can make the decision. They
can run the business the way they want. I think
it doesn't.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
You know, I don't think as a consumer. I also
know I don't want to stand in a line that's
twenty minutes long. I want to go watch the game.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I get it. No, I totally get it. Yeah, I
totally get it. That's and and there's this conflicting interest there.
I totally get it. You know, some some people like
to get to the game an hour ahead of time
and sit and watch the warm ups and everything like that.
Other people just want to stroll in at the last
at you know, just at tip off. I get it.
It's what it's going to aad of time.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
The lines, the lines were ridiculous. I mean the place
was sold out, so it was really quite something.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I wonder if they had And this is this is
not a question to parry with you. But I wonder
if they had their normal uh you know garden crew
that works for Celtics since you were going to.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Especially, I think so they had a lot of workers there.
Every location was open.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, it's a you know, Ali, you called, You made
a great argument. You made a great argument, and that's
what this show is all about. I want people to
call and disagree with me, and I want people to
call and and agree with me as well. But you
were always welcome. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
All right, thank you, thank.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You very much.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
Good night.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Taking a quick break here six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty and six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. We will be back on night Side right
after this.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
That's that's that's interesting. How is Boston gonna impose fine
on public services if they're on if they're collecting collecting trash?
Are not collecting trash in Boston if they're not supposed to.
We'll look at that next week, folks. I promise you're
coming back. Let us go now. Oh, by the way,
I did earlier tonight give an updated. You may have
(19:22):
listened last night. Very quickly we talked about this water
monitor lizard who had jumped out the second story. Five
foot lizard jumped out the second story of a home
in Webster onto a garage roof and then leapt off
the ground garage roof and has escaped. Last night we
talked with the deputy chief of Webster, Deputy police Chief
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Gordon Wentworth, and he told me that last night, about
ten minutes after we were on the air, had nothing.
It was merely coincidental. The lizard, the water monitor lizard,
was spotted. Goose was spot it in neighboring Thompson, Connecticut.
So he has crossed Skiss state lines about five miles.
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He's traveled in about a week. That's not bad and
he's still alive. So Goose keep going. It looks like
Goose is head and south. We're going to keep rolling
here and I'm going back to Betty on the boat. Betty,
hopefully we've got a better sound with you this time.
Go right ahead, Betty.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I hope so too. By using credit cards all the time,
I truly believe people do not understand the true value
of a dollar and what that dollar has a capability
of buying.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Totally totally agree with you on that one.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
App I will not, I will not. I went to
a parking lot one day and I told it and
on the way out, it said give me a credit card.
I still have not not giving you my credit card.
I have money and they couldn't take it. They called
the police on me being a renegade.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
It was Peter. Did you hear Peter? He said that
you know, you know money is legal tender. They have
to accept legal tender.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Absolutely. It's printed on every dollar bill, ten dollar bill,
every bill that's printed.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
How did how did the police handle that situation? Betty?
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Well?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
They said would you get out of the car?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And I didn't.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
The guy came up to my shoulder and I said,
what would you like me to do now, sir? I
have twenty dollars and twenty five cents and that's what
it costs and I want to pay. And he looked
at the attendant. He said, you have to take this money.
She's legally trying to pay it, and credit CUD is
not the rule of land.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Good for him? So did they take the cash?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
The gate immediately went up and I went down the.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Road a freebie. Was it a freebie? Or did he
take the cash?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
They took the cash. Oh, I don't know what you
did with it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
What a jerk, whoever that was had to have been.
I just ooh, Betty. If I had been there, I
would have been thrown to jail.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Seriously, But situations where I have they said, we'll give
me a credit cut. I don't have to give you
my credit cud. I have the money in my hand.
I went to the doctor's office and I had a
copy of twenty dollars. I said, here's twenty dollars. She said,
can't take it. I said, right here, it's a legal
tender of payment. Well, I don't have a way to
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get to it to the bank. I said, did you
get to work today by car? She said yes, she said,
I said, then drop it off at the bank on
your way home.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, first, doctor, Now, the person who's tending the gate
at some parking lot, they're not collecting the money. What
they should do is take the cash. Uh, and when
they see their boss the next or whatever, say hey.
There was some very smart woman who explained to me
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that cash has to be accepted. It's legal tender. Here's
the money. Yeah, maybe the boss doesn't trust that parking
lot of tendant and they that's why they do that.
They're afraid that the parking lot attendant will be skimming
a little bit. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Even my stern student says, they refuse to take money.
And I sat down and I had a very alarm
talk with the manager at that facility, and I said,
you're going to have a problem someday when you when
somebody shows up and they're going to be federal. You're
going to get audited, and it's not going to be pretty.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Betty. I love you spunk, and I know that your
spunk is going to help you in the next few weeks,
the next few months as you beat whatever whatever situation
you're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well, I've got a double lammy. But I did find
the cat at last.
Speaker 11 (24:04):
My cat.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
My cat died in May very suddenly, and I've been
and i've been, I've been looking. So I found a
nice cat at Nevin's found MSPCA, a little girl nine
four years old and I named her Ralph.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Good. Well you give you give that beautiful cat a
little a pet and a hug for me. I'm right
right there with you in your corner all the way. Thanks, Betty,
we'll talk.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Take you bye.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Thanks, Betty, have a great night, one of a wonderful,
wonderful regular callers. Let me go now to Nick in Winchester. Nick,
welcome next on nights. Sorry for the delayed, Nick, but
I wanted to bring Betty back.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Hey, buddy, I haven't got a chance to talk to
you that often. But you remember me. I had my
sickness there for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And you beat it.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Because if Nick can beat it, Betty can beat it.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
You go right ahead, absolutely, one hundred percent. I work
in that way. I worked down in the dungeon in
the pretzel room, and I've seen it all.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You're one of the guys that bakes the pretzels, okay,
all right?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, yeah. I was a scam manager and when they
first switched over to cod only, there was a lot
of people complaining, what do you mean, I don't want
to do that? Can I can I leave you a
tip and cash? I can't pay cash? I said, no,
I can't. There's no way we can do it. But
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there was a lot of people upset about that, and
as I as a strike in, I I got my
mixed emotions about it. I don't want to go on strike.
I need the money. But at the end of the day,
I got to support my fellow workers.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Nick. Were you you on the picket line tonight? I
nort know absolutely what sort of What was the reaction
of people who were going into the ballpark and crossing
the picket line. What do they have to say?
Speaker 12 (26:10):
Well, I would We were down near the employee entrance,
which was away from the main entrance, but a lot
of people walking by they were giving their thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd love to hear from simple people
inside the ballpark and who go to the game. You
bought the ticket, go to the game. You know, I'm
not happy that you're crossing the picket line, but go
to the game. And when you're inside, don't don't support
Erra Mark, don't don't buy you know, beer, don't don't
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buy hot dogs. That that's one way to have made
a statement. I'll be interested to see if anyone made
that statement.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Tonight exactly exactly. I hope.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
So well, look, best of luck, Nick, to everybody, Okay
in the in the crew, And we did it at
some time in this last night, and I wanted to
come back to it tonight, and I hope that you
guys can get it squared away as soon as possible. Again,
I hold the Red Sox. The Red Sox could put
some pressure on Erramark, but your fight is with error Mark,
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and I think that's important for people to understand so exactly.
Speaker 10 (27:19):
And I want to say one thing to you and
your listeners. I really appreciate you devoting time for this
very important situation that we've got drawn into.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I want to say thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, my pleasure. We tried to get the head of
the union on yesterday. If the head of the union
wants to come on some night next week, if this
thing hopefully is not concluded, and hopefully it does get concluded,
I'll be more than happy to have him on as well.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Okay, thank you man, You're a great man.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Thanks good night, hanging inbody, don't worry, it'll be fine.
I'm going to get one more in here before the break.
Let me go to Lean in Waltham.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Hi, Eileen, how are you very good?
Speaker 5 (28:04):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Dan? Just great? What's your take on what we're talking
about tonight?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Let me go first to pay Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Aaron Mac is a humongous company worldwide, twenty two countries,
and it's everywhere we go. I have a small business and.
Speaker 11 (28:21):
I keep hitting it.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Two credit cards cost the person who's in the credit.
I mean it costs businesses. What's happening now is beginning
to transfer of those fees to the customer.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Correct me if I'm wrong. But that's four percent, right.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It ranges from three to five percent depending. Bigger companies
get a big, huge break, so they don't pay what
we pay. Okay, But there's frozen cons for the business.
But it's a cost you okay, and Aaron mac the
size of the company, what they make, where they are,
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they can easily afford to pay these vendors a decent
wage twenty five thirty dollars an hour. I as a
small business.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Pay that to my help. Okay, Okay, I think.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I think you're not only concerned about that. Where where
is the player's union. Why aren't they backing this at all?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Well? They might be. I don't know that they're not.
I've seen nothing. You know, if I see something that
says they are not backing it, I'd be disappointed. If
I see something that says they are backing.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It, I'm backing it would be good. But that's where
the pressure. It can't It won't come from the little people.
It has to come from the other huge guys. And
compare to Aermac Sunway Park on Schurch Stadium, this small peanuts.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, I would say this if thirty thousand people went
to the game tonight, and it probably was thirty five thousand,
as was the Dodgers, and if let's say normally half
of them would would buy something inside, whether it's hot
dog and a coke or a beer or whatever. If
all of them said to Aramark, we're going to the game,
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but we're not purchasing bring our own lunch. Yeah, uh,
that would be that would send a real message to
Aramark because at that point it would start to cost Aramark.
It's as simple as that, Aramay. I'm saying, Aramark has
a contract with the Red Sox, and I'm sure the
Red Sox get a piece of the action. But the
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action is the beer they sell, the popcorn they sell,
the hot dogs they sell. And if they look at
the numbers tonight and they said, whoa, you know, we
sold very few beers, We sold very few That's the
message that I was hoping the Red Sox fans would
send tonight. But we'll find out.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
And everybody buying that stuff, they're paying those credit card piece.
It's in the price of the beer, it's in the
price of the hot dog.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's I lean, thank you much. I get you in
here before the break, but I gotta run. Thanks. Ileen,
talked to you soon. Back on nights Side, we're gonna
get everybody in. Bill, Mike, Terry, and Gell. Jai always
calls late, though he's going to be the fourth caller
on the other side. We'll be back on Nightside right
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after this.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I've been a busy night here in Nightside. We have packed,
we have packed the lines. I'm gonna go very quickly
to Bill in Natick and then I'm going to go
to Mike and Plymouth and taking him in order. Bill,
thanks for calling in. Next on Nightside, I'm going to
ask you to be quick.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Go ahead, Bill, can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I can hear you? Find go right ahead?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Okay, great, be quick. The issue of Fenway Park being
cash list is a little bit of a red herring.
Let me explain why you can bring cash to Fenway
Park and tidy garden Angelette Stadium. And what you do
is the way that they get around this is they
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have tiosks there so that you take your you say
you're going to spend thirty dollars on your dogs and beers.
You put in thirty dollars to the kiosk and you
get back a master card debit card so you can
bring cash. You just go, you just trade.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
My question, My question is if you put thirty in,
do you get a credit card, a card that's worth
the thirty or is it discounted?
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Yes, you get you get it. You get a plastic
debit card that you can use at the vendors and
Fenery Park And it's the same thing that they do
at TV Garden Angelette Stadium. They've borne all gone to
the So.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I got a question for you. I got a question
for you. So you're going to figure it out. You
try to figure it out as best you can. If you,
let's say, want to buy I don't know, and it
comes to thirty two bucks and you got a thirty
dollars debit card of some sort, you're out of luck. Okay, okay,
(32:54):
So now what about you say to yourself, Okay, what
is that? So you can't buy, you have to then
say okay, then I don't want the hot dog or
I don't want to be it. Right now, you got
a card in your hand, it's you give it to
them thirty Did they give you back change in cash
or did they give you back change? Yeah, I bought you.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
No. I understand your question, Dan. What it is is
basically it is a MasterCard debit card. So if you
have let's say you only use up twenty dollars of
that thirty dollars that you put in the machine, and
you can use that ten dollars to stop and stop
or anyplace else that turn out.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Okay, I still don't understand why the other thing, why
do they put you through the inconvenience? Why is that?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
What's the beneficent It's more it's quicker. It's quicker for
the transaction than paying cash. And also and also it
it also there is there's always an issue of steft
uh with employees that is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
On the front of it, on that right right, So
they're doing it for that way, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
And by the way, this is just like how you
used to have to do with the Charlie cards.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
The MTTA.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
You put money in the in the machine and you
get back to Charlie cards leading with X amount of dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So when we go to a castle society, when we
go to a castless society, a castle economy, you're gonna
be okay with it.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
Right on.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I use cast myself a lot, but I also don't
like using credit I don't like using credit cards that
can be that can be hacked. By the way, the
other thing is the Massachusetts Attorney General has ruled on
the sports venues providing this type of service with the
kiosks for debit cards, and say, because they offer you
the ability to put in cash together debit cards, it's
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perfectly legal.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Lead right, and again, remember all those politicians do they
do accept campaign contributions from the sports teams, correct, Bill,
Thank you much, of course they do.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Yeh.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
By the way, Dan, gotta go, Bill. We've got four
minutes and no one else is going to get four minutes,
no else going to get two minutes. Got to run.
I love the call, Thank you very much. Mike in Plymouth.
Mike was at the game. Mike, what was it like
inside the ballpark tonight?
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (35:10):
It was packed. It was a sellout crowd. They sold
out all the standing room tickets, and every concession that
I saw, I was working the game for a public
safety agency, and every every concession I saw behind home
plate was packed with long lines. Didn't appear to be
making a dent in the strike, didn't appear to be
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making a dent.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Well, well, that's sad in my opinion, because next time
it might be my arcs that being good or yours.
And for people to go in and put money in
Aermox parkt that was an insult to the to the
people who have worked there. And I really mean that,
I feel that deeply.
Speaker 10 (35:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Unfortunately, it was a very hot night, so people who
came thirsty and they drank and they played the Dodgers,
and the Dodgers travel there. You well, so there was
probably one in three fans of the fans with Dodger fans.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
No, no, and thank you, thank you very much for that.
But I would say any Red Sox fan who not
only crossed the picket line, I'll give him a pass
on crossing the picket line, but to put money in
Aaron Maox pocket after what they're doing into these uh
these employees, reprehensible in my opinion.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
I agree with you. I'm a union employee myself, all right.
But the fans didn't seem to care about the strike.
They really didn't. It was kind of sad.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Well, it is kind of sad because you know what
happens is breaks that union, someone else breaks another union.
They've just had a bunch of buyouts at at a
local television station. It's, you know whatever, it's it's not
a good trend. Mike. Thank you so much for your call.
I really do appreciate it. Thank you for what you do.
Speaker 11 (36:51):
Thank you, my friend Terry and Harwich.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Terry, you got to be quick for me. You've been
waiting a long time, like to get you and at
least one more and go ahead, Terry.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
So what happened to when there's a power failure?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
No, I'm with you, I wonder that's a great question.
It's a great question. And the other thing that I
want to just throw quick the kids today were Central
Court acc in school.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
So if I ask you how many ones.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
Are in twenty seven?
Speaker 7 (37:24):
What would you tell.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Me how many ones are in the number twenty seven?
Speaker 7 (37:31):
Correct? Twenty seven, That's what I would say. But that's
not the answer.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
What's The real.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Answer is two tens.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Two tens. Did I lose you? Terry here, Terry, I
think we lost you, Terry, we lost your apologize, Jill.
We are freely tight on time. I'm actually getting in here.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Jill ahead.
Speaker 11 (38:00):
I thought it told me years ago. Pay Telephones had
a counting room and the workers who worked there had
inside sown pockets and a lot of money left. Every
time there is accounting, there's accounting room, money disappears. Every
time there's a transaction, money disappears. So they did that.
(38:21):
By the way, you probably know Aramac before they were
bought by the new owners Red Sox gave Aramac a
thirty year contract.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
So I realized they gave them a thirty year contract.
But that's very generous of them.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
So that so that there's a legacy of money that
comes out of Arabach and goes backwards into previous people
associated part owners. The Red Sox were owned at one
time by you know, six or seven different people, and
Harrington managed them well.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
It was owned The Red Sox were owned by the
estate of the Yachey family and yeah, Tom Tom Yacky
when he died, it was owned by g Yeah, and
then when they sold it when they sold the Red
Sox to John Henry and Tom Warner. Larry Leuke Keenyan
was a part owner, as there were also six or
seven other people who were minority owners.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Absolutely, Larry was terrific.
Speaker 11 (39:18):
Now a couple of a couple of other things.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
George, Unfortunately, I don't have time even for one other
thing because I'm at eleven o'clock and.
Speaker 11 (39:26):
I'm no, no, no, I want to go back to
the Nipmunk Indians.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
George. I know you'd like to, but I got to
go to a newscast, and unfortunately the newscast beats the Nipmunks.
We plugged the nip Munks, and I got to get
you to call earlier. But it's eleven o'clock and here
comes the news. Thanks George, Thanks gill Ian and san Antonio.
I apologize. I wish you had called earlier. Want to
hold on, We'll talk on the other side. The twentieth
Hour awaits right after the eleven o'clock news.
It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBS cast in his
new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Sorry, so the Red Sox game is over. They lost
to the Dodgers tonight, opening up their three game series
with the Dodgers. They were wearing hats tonight with a
B on it. And for those of you who don't
remember the Los Angeles Dodgers migrated west, it was nineteen
fifty seven. They were the Brooklyn Dodgers and the hats
(00:27):
stayble tonight with the old Brooklyn Dodgers Brooklyn blue hats
with a white bee emblem. So not a good well,
maybe a good look for them, but not a good
look for the Red Sox. Red Sox now fifty five
and fifty only two and five since the All Star break,
and tomorrow night they go back at it again. Now
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as people are getting in their cars and leaving Fenway Park,
I assume some of them, some of them are listening
to Night's Side And if you're on your way home
from the ballpark, love to know what it was like
you had to cross a picket line to get into
the ballpark. Did you buy concessions or did you support
the people who were on strike? The people who normally
(01:12):
serve at the concession stands or carry refreshments, be they
hot dogs, beer, or whatever whatever else they carry into
the stands love to hear. So we're going to talk
about that. And we are also talking about this trend
toward a cashless economy in America, which I think is
a problem. I know that I'm probably a troglodite here
(01:35):
and everyone's going to say, who carries cash? Well, I
think it's important to have some cash with you at
any time, because you never know. Cash can be king
or cash is king. And I think we're all concerned
about protecting our identities. Well, the more ways in which
you expose your identity to the world, the more likely
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is your identity might be compromised. Let me go to
Betty in the Boat. Betty in the Boat, thanks for
calling back. I know the last time you called you
were telling me that you had a little bit of
a medical diagnosis and a lot of people are rooting
for you. Betty. How you feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I'm doing fine. The only thing I can say is
that I feel as though the statue has been taken
out and I say.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, Betty, let me ask you. Are you on speakerphone
or something? Because you sound quite distant, and I want
to hear exactly what you have to say.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
What I believe in a.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Cash decide and I will do any transaction in buying
products with criticized. If I go to a bank rate,
I paid cash because by paying cash enable time for
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the bank get you go out tomorrow and buy supply
to be mainly in order to mind his bakery shop.
If I pay by credit card, I cannot. And if
I'm conscious, you know that this man is trying to
get his funds tomorrow. They're going to get him in
three months.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
That's true. That's true, and they're also going to have
to pay a discount on it. Betty. I'm going to
have Rob trying to clean up your line a little
bit because I want to hear what you say. Don't
hang up. Rob is going to take over the call.
He'll clean up your line and we will come back
to you, I promise. Let me go to Peter and Medford. Peter,
welcome back. We talked about Medford a little bit last night.
By the way, Peter, hope you heard it.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Oh, I bet Dad. Sorry? Then, So my thing is
like you, I can carry cash in my pocket, but
now I've got cash with legal tenda and it's accepted
everywhere and the government stands behind it. Go on cash list.
I don't understand it. I don't always like to use
a credit card, but ten that accepted.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think I think that's I think that's a great
point that you raise. But I know that at Fenway Park,
I'm told it is cashless there, and maybe some listeners
who are on their way home for the ball game
will confirm that for us. I also believe it's cashless
at at Gillette Stadium. And if it's cashless at Fenway
and at Gillette, I guarantee you it's cashless, cashless at
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other venues, you know, major sporting venues around the country.
I don't understand why. I mean, do the owners of
these teams have lack of money and they're afraid that
they're being ripped off. I hope there's pill for it's
going on. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
So we know that Jacobs have lots of money. We
know the Yache Association, Well.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's John Henry, now it's John John.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Henry, and.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Yeah, they got plenty of money. But again, how can
they say we're not taking cash? They don't. I don't
understand how they can get away with that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I think that's a great question. I don't have any answer.
I don't have any answer for that, to be honest
with you, and maybe someone will.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
If there's some piece of legislation in Washington which gives
corporations public sporting, you know, what happens is the lobbyists
will write one little paragraph or one little sentence buried
in some piece of legislation which will say that major
sporting venues of over you know, a capacity of thirty
(05:31):
thousand seats are hereby. They don't have to, you know,
they're an exception, and the lobbyist gets it in there
and they love it. I don't know. I just I,
honest to God, don't have an answer. Maybe someone will.
But I think it's a great point you raise. I
wish I had thought of it. I should have thought
of it. Cash's legal tender and it's supposed to be
(05:54):
accepted everywhere.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Right, So the next thing is the young folks using
a credit card, Well, they're getting the point for the reward.
That's where they at it, and it gets they'll get
automatically taken out of that checking account.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It'll be one well, Bill, I get that, that's another option.
But what I'm saying is, if I'm a vendor, if
I own a restaurant, I would I prefer to give
a little bit of a discount to the cash customers.
So if the bill is, I don't know, one hundred dollars,
why not say, look, I'll give you a four percent discount.
(06:30):
Because if you pay for it a credit card, I'm
only going to get ninety six dollars from the credit
card company because the credit card takes their little slice.
Why not give that to your customers.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Well, you see that on restaurants there the Cape, They'll
say pay cash, save four points. Okay with that. I
like paying cash.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But that's what I'm saying. There's there's advantages. There's absolute advantages, Peter.
There's a thing going on in med where they're trying
to well, we talked about last night. You should go
and listen to our nine o'clock hour last night. It
was all about Medford. And there's a group in the city,
the city council, who are looking to change the zoning
laws in Medford. Medford, and and that's all, well, that's good.
(07:18):
You should get involved in that because if you don't.
The character of Medford is going to change dramatically overnight.
It's going to become a suburb of Somerville.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I'm on top of it, and I thank you much.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
A Cambridge.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, Peter is always keep keep listening to Nightside. Thanks
for calling in. You made some great points. Thank you, sir,
Thank you. That's a great night. Okay, uh we rob
Hopefully we can get Betty. Betty in the boat back.
I'll talk to you during the break here. We're going
to take a quick break. Coming right back on nights Side.
(07:55):
I got Lola, I got Nick, I got Ali, and
I got room you. The only line is open right
now with six one, seven nine, And if you're heading
home from the ballpark, I particularly would love to hear
from you as to what it was like there tonight.
What was it like to cross a picket line? Did
you buy concessions inside? What was the atmosphere like? The
baseball game didn't go too well for the Red Sox.
(08:16):
They lost there now fifty five and fifty, and it's
a it's a tough situation to be in because you
are you buyers and sellers. We'll find out coming back
on Nightside, I hope they're buyers.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Back to the phones we go, gonna go to Lola
in Watertown.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Hey, Lola, how are you, Hike, Dan?
Speaker 7 (08:41):
I'm great, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Just excellent? What's your take on all of this, the
cashless economy or what's going on at Fenway Park or
outside of Friendway Park?
Speaker 7 (08:51):
I should say, well, so the cashless society just started
during COVID. Yeah, and that's where the dirty money started
because people were afraid to touch the money because of COVID. So,
I mean, you know, I'm living in San Diego and
all of a sudden everything started going to digital credit
(09:16):
cards only blah blah blah. So don't frequent places that
don't take cash. But it gets even better. They'll take cash,
no change. So if it's thirty one dollars in one cent,
they don't give you ninety nine cents back. Really they'll
(09:36):
take yeah oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So wait, wait will when you give someone thirty two dollars? Okay,
I always have coins in my pocket, but let's assume
all you have is thirty two and you say to
the person, let's say I go to San Diego. I'm
going to say, hey, what's the deal here, it's thirty
two dollars you mean ninety nine cents.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
What are they going to say, we don't give change back?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay? So what about if I pull a penny out
of my pocket and say, okay, there's the penny, give
me my dollar.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
B Yeah, well that's the thing. I got stuck. So
then I started going to the bank and make sure
and I had change, okay, because I had tens, five, ten, five, twenties,
So I'm like, whoa, I did start carrying one and
(10:30):
then yeah, carry change.
Speaker 8 (10:31):
But you have any.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Change, you give me a call and I'll FedEx you
some change overnight. Okay.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
I'm just saying this actually happened to me. And one
store I went into this was this was like two
years ago. For some reason, I made sure I had
exact change, and I walked into this store and right
outside the door, I took a picture of it. It
says we do take cash, but we don't have any
(11:00):
change like you. So but he is now and so
now you have all these young kids and they love plastic,
and I don't like to. I don't want anyone to
know that I went to the drug store, and then
I went to the gas station, and then I went
to Dunkin Donuts. I feel like I'm being watched, okay,
which I know we are. I know these cameras all
(11:23):
over the place. I get it. But I like paying cash.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
So I'll tell you my attitude is, if I'm going
to a store and it's worth and it's over thirty bucks,
I'm putting it on a card, okay. But if it's
under thirty bucks or so, I'm going to pay cash
because it's really not worth it. If I'm at a
dunkin Donuts, I'm going to pay cash. Right, you can't
(11:49):
spend thirty bucks. But I believe in credit cards. But
I only have one that I use. Okay, it's as
simple as that. I don't want to have. I have
friends of mine who have ten credit cards and they
have no idea how much there is old on each
or whatever. That's crazy. That's living your life like a madman.
In my opinion.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Well, if they have a bottomless pit of money in
the bank and it's all on automatic, they don't care.
They just go here, use this cad here.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You're going out, But then you do lose track of it.
So I got a question for you. Okay, you send
me an email today. Are you going to this event
in South Grafton on Sunday?
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Yes, I am Sunday. I'm going to the pow wow.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeap, give it a plug, Give it a plug.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
So there's a pow wow in South Grafton on Sunday,
July twenty seventh. It starts at ten. It's a five
dollars entry fee. And why I'm going is it's the
Nipmunk tribe, which was the first tribe in the country
to sign a treaty with the United States and it
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was signed in Watertown. Oh and oh yeah, this is history.
Like why aren't they doing this in Watertown? Because they were,
but they dropped it. The town ended up dropping it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay, So this is I'm just.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Going to support the Native American because because they're the
Native Americans.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
So this is it looks to me like it's on
twenty five Main Street in South Grafton.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
Yeah, I've never been there. I'm just venturing out there.
And why am I? You know, this is how I
found out about it. I went to a spa in
Southborough and the girl says, we got a new restaurant
inside the facility. It's separate, but their retina space. You
should go have it. It's Mexican food, and I'm like, look,
(13:47):
I eat Mexican real Mexican in California. I'm not, you know,
I'm not going to no Mexican place. She goes dry it,
so I did. And the sour dough bread, it's either
beat a spinach and I go, rust, I go, I
want a slice of each. So I'm going to see
this woman that bakes the bread that I got at
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the spot.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, So again, it's at South Craft and twenty five
Main Street, and it's it starts at ten o'clock on Sunday.
You know, I accommodated you with a plug here because
I happened to notice it and I saw you called it, Lola.
I got a screwed here because I got packed ons.
I gotta keep roy.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
I got a bunch of stuff to tell you off
the off the radio. You know, good, I got Jazz.
I saw Chazz last week? You got what thank you
you did?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
You know Chazz I went and saw the bronze tail
because of you.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh good? Did you meet him?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (14:45):
I did? And that was a cash transaction only, And
did you tell him afterwards?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Did you tell him you heard about it on Night side?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I did. You're the best, and I wanted I want
him to come to San Diego. It was you have
to go see that show. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Okay, Lola, I've got a roll here. I love the call.
Thank you so much, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
A great Okay, absolutely, good night.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Let me go to Ali in Boston. Ali, you were
next on nights. I go right ahead.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Hey there.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
I was at North Station a couple of weeks ago
for the w NBA game, and I'm just trying to
think what that would have been like if twenty five
percent of the people wanted to pay for cash, those
already long lines would have been fifty percent longer, and
everybody would have been so unhappy. There's just no way
they could make change in that kind of situation anymore.
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It just doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Really. That's interesting. First of all, I disagree with you,
but that's okay. One I I believe that people should
be able to use whatever legal tender they have, but
we'll put that aside for a second. Yeah, they're not yelling.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I can tell.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I can tell by your voice. You're what are you?
Gen X? What what are you? If I could ask.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Older than you think, I am.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, Well you still got a great voice. Okay, no problem,
at least compliment the voice.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
It's a very I do.
Speaker 9 (16:13):
I do carry cash around. I like to use it
as small businesses, farmers' markets where it matters to them
and the credit card fees kill them.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
But PlayN just do the credit card, get it over with,
speed it up.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I understand that argument. I do understand that argument. What
percentage of the people do you think at at the
TD garden we're dealing with plastic.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
I couldn't tell you they didn't want cash. You had
to put your order unto a screen and give a
credit card.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Oh I see, so you okay, So what you're saying
is you didn't have a choice.
Speaker 9 (16:49):
I don't think I had a choice. Didn't bother me.
But I was trying to imagine based on this conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I totally totally get it. But I'm what I'm talking
about is if I go to the garden and they
want my money and my preference is to pay with cash,
and if I have that strong preference, I can sit
through a Bruins game or a Celtics game or a
w NBA game. I don't have to have a beer
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and overpriced, you know beer. I'm more than happy to
go buy a beer after the game at one of
the local watering holes. So if they don't want.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
To competition entirely, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I mean they make they can make the decision. They
can run the business the way they want. I think
it doesn't.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
You know, I don't think as a consumer. I also
know I don't want to stand in a line that's
twenty minutes long. I want to go watch the game.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I get it. No, I totally get it. Yeah, I
totally get it. That's and and there's this conflicting interest there.
I totally get it. You know, some some people like
to get to the game an hour ahead of time
and sit and watch the warm ups and everything like that.
Other people just want to stroll in at the last
at you know, just at tip off. I get it.
It's what it's going to aad of time.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
The lines, the lines were ridiculous. I mean the place
was sold out, so it was really quite something.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I wonder if they had And this is this is
not a question to parry with you. But I wonder
if they had their normal uh you know garden crew
that works for Celtics since you were going to.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Especially, I think so they had a lot of workers there.
Every location was open.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, it's a you know, Ali, you called, You made
a great argument. You made a great argument, and that's
what this show is all about. I want people to
call and disagree with me, and I want people to
call and and agree with me as well. But you
were always welcome. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
All right, thank you, thank.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You very much.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
Good night.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Taking a quick break here six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty and six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. We will be back on night Side right
after this.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
That's that's that's interesting. How is Boston gonna impose fine
on public services if they're on if they're collecting collecting trash?
Are not collecting trash in Boston if they're not supposed to.
We'll look at that next week, folks. I promise you're
coming back. Let us go now. Oh, by the way,
I did earlier tonight give an updated. You may have
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listened last night. Very quickly we talked about this water
monitor lizard who had jumped out the second story. Five
foot lizard jumped out the second story of a home
in Webster onto a garage roof and then leapt off
the ground garage roof and has escaped. Last night we
talked with the deputy chief of Webster, Deputy police Chief
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Gordon Wentworth, and he told me that last night, about
ten minutes after we were on the air, had nothing.
It was merely coincidental. The lizard, the water monitor lizard,
was spotted. Goose was spot it in neighboring Thompson, Connecticut.
So he has crossed Skiss state lines about five miles.
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He's traveled in about a week. That's not bad and
he's still alive. So Goose keep going. It looks like
Goose is head and south. We're going to keep rolling
here and I'm going back to Betty on the boat. Betty,
hopefully we've got a better sound with you this time.
Go right ahead, Betty.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I hope so too. By using credit cards all the time,
I truly believe people do not understand the true value
of a dollar and what that dollar has a capability
of buying.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Totally totally agree with you on that one.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
App I will not, I will not. I went to
a parking lot one day and I told it and
on the way out, it said give me a credit card.
I still have not not giving you my credit card.
I have money and they couldn't take it. They called
the police on me being a renegade.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
It was Peter. Did you hear Peter? He said that
you know, you know money is legal tender. They have
to accept legal tender.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Absolutely. It's printed on every dollar bill, ten dollar bill,
every bill that's printed.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
How did how did the police handle that situation? Betty?
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Well?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
They said would you get out of the car?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And I didn't.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
The guy came up to my shoulder and I said,
what would you like me to do now, sir? I
have twenty dollars and twenty five cents and that's what
it costs and I want to pay. And he looked
at the attendant. He said, you have to take this money.
She's legally trying to pay it, and credit CUD is
not the rule of land.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Good for him? So did they take the cash?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
The gate immediately went up and I went down the.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Road a freebie. Was it a freebie? Or did he
take the cash?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
They took the cash. Oh, I don't know what you
did with it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
What a jerk, whoever that was had to have been.
I just ooh, Betty. If I had been there, I
would have been thrown to jail.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Seriously, But situations where I have they said, we'll give
me a credit cut. I don't have to give you
my credit cud. I have the money in my hand.
I went to the doctor's office and I had a
copy of twenty dollars. I said, here's twenty dollars. She said,
can't take it. I said, right here, it's a legal
tender of payment. Well, I don't have a way to
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get to it to the bank. I said, did you
get to work today by car? She said yes, she said,
I said, then drop it off at the bank on
your way home.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, first, doctor, Now, the person who's tending the gate
at some parking lot, they're not collecting the money. What
they should do is take the cash. Uh, and when
they see their boss the next or whatever, say hey.
There was some very smart woman who explained to me
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that cash has to be accepted. It's legal tender. Here's
the money. Yeah, maybe the boss doesn't trust that parking
lot of tendant and they that's why they do that.
They're afraid that the parking lot attendant will be skimming
a little bit. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Even my stern student says, they refuse to take money.
And I sat down and I had a very alarm
talk with the manager at that facility, and I said,
you're going to have a problem someday when you when
somebody shows up and they're going to be federal. You're
going to get audited, and it's not going to be pretty.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Betty. I love you spunk, and I know that your
spunk is going to help you in the next few weeks,
the next few months as you beat whatever whatever situation
you're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well, I've got a double lammy. But I did find
the cat at last.
Speaker 11 (24:04):
My cat.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
My cat died in May very suddenly, and I've been
and i've been, I've been looking. So I found a
nice cat at Nevin's found MSPCA, a little girl nine
four years old and I named her Ralph.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Good. Well you give you give that beautiful cat a
little a pet and a hug for me. I'm right
right there with you in your corner all the way. Thanks, Betty,
we'll talk.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Take you bye.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Thanks, Betty, have a great night, one of a wonderful,
wonderful regular callers. Let me go now to Nick in Winchester. Nick,
welcome next on nights. Sorry for the delayed, Nick, but
I wanted to bring Betty back.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Hey, buddy, I haven't got a chance to talk to
you that often. But you remember me. I had my
sickness there for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And you beat it.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Because if Nick can beat it, Betty can beat it.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
You go right ahead, absolutely, one hundred percent. I work
in that way. I worked down in the dungeon in
the pretzel room, and I've seen it all.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You're one of the guys that bakes the pretzels, okay,
all right?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, yeah. I was a scam manager and when they
first switched over to cod only, there was a lot
of people complaining, what do you mean, I don't want
to do that? Can I can I leave you a
tip and cash? I can't pay cash? I said, no,
I can't. There's no way we can do it. But
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there was a lot of people upset about that, and
as I as a strike in, I I got my
mixed emotions about it. I don't want to go on strike.
I need the money. But at the end of the day,
I got to support my fellow workers.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Nick. Were you you on the picket line tonight? I
nort know absolutely what sort of What was the reaction
of people who were going into the ballpark and crossing
the picket line. What do they have to say?
Speaker 12 (26:10):
Well, I would We were down near the employee entrance,
which was away from the main entrance, but a lot
of people walking by they were giving their thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd love to hear from simple people
inside the ballpark and who go to the game. You
bought the ticket, go to the game. You know, I'm
not happy that you're crossing the picket line, but go
to the game. And when you're inside, don't don't support
Erra Mark, don't don't buy you know, beer, don't don't
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buy hot dogs. That that's one way to have made
a statement. I'll be interested to see if anyone made
that statement.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Tonight exactly exactly. I hope.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
So well, look, best of luck, Nick, to everybody, Okay
in the in the crew, And we did it at
some time in this last night, and I wanted to
come back to it tonight, and I hope that you
guys can get it squared away as soon as possible. Again,
I hold the Red Sox. The Red Sox could put
some pressure on Erramark, but your fight is with error Mark,
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and I think that's important for people to understand so exactly.
Speaker 10 (27:19):
And I want to say one thing to you and
your listeners. I really appreciate you devoting time for this
very important situation that we've got drawn into.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I want to say thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, my pleasure. We tried to get the head of
the union on yesterday. If the head of the union
wants to come on some night next week, if this
thing hopefully is not concluded, and hopefully it does get concluded,
I'll be more than happy to have him on as well.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Okay, thank you man, You're a great man.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Thanks good night, hanging inbody, don't worry, it'll be fine.
I'm going to get one more in here before the break.
Let me go to Lean in Waltham.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Hi, Eileen, how are you very good?
Speaker 5 (28:04):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Dan? Just great? What's your take on what we're talking
about tonight?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Let me go first to pay Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Aaron Mac is a humongous company worldwide, twenty two countries,
and it's everywhere we go. I have a small business and.
Speaker 11 (28:21):
I keep hitting it.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Two credit cards cost the person who's in the credit.
I mean it costs businesses. What's happening now is beginning
to transfer of those fees to the customer.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Correct me if I'm wrong. But that's four percent, right.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It ranges from three to five percent depending. Bigger companies
get a big, huge break, so they don't pay what
we pay. Okay, But there's frozen cons for the business.
But it's a cost you okay, and Aaron mac the
size of the company, what they make, where they are,
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they can easily afford to pay these vendors a decent
wage twenty five thirty dollars an hour. I as a
small business.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Pay that to my help. Okay, Okay, I think.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I think you're not only concerned about that. Where where
is the player's union. Why aren't they backing this at all?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Well? They might be. I don't know that they're not.
I've seen nothing. You know, if I see something that
says they are not backing it, I'd be disappointed. If
I see something that says they are backing.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It, I'm backing it would be good. But that's where
the pressure. It can't It won't come from the little people.
It has to come from the other huge guys. And
compare to Aermac Sunway Park on Schurch Stadium, this small peanuts.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, I would say this if thirty thousand people went
to the game tonight, and it probably was thirty five thousand,
as was the Dodgers, and if let's say normally half
of them would would buy something inside, whether it's hot
dog and a coke or a beer or whatever. If
all of them said to Aramark, we're going to the game,
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but we're not purchasing bring our own lunch. Yeah, uh,
that would be that would send a real message to
Aramark because at that point it would start to cost Aramark.
It's as simple as that, Aramay. I'm saying, Aramark has
a contract with the Red Sox, and I'm sure the
Red Sox get a piece of the action. But the
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action is the beer they sell, the popcorn they sell,
the hot dogs they sell. And if they look at
the numbers tonight and they said, whoa, you know, we
sold very few beers, We sold very few That's the
message that I was hoping the Red Sox fans would
send tonight. But we'll find out.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
And everybody buying that stuff, they're paying those credit card piece.
It's in the price of the beer, it's in the
price of the hot dog.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's I lean, thank you much. I get you in
here before the break, but I gotta run. Thanks. Ileen,
talked to you soon. Back on nights Side, we're gonna
get everybody in. Bill, Mike, Terry, and Gell. Jai always
calls late, though he's going to be the fourth caller
on the other side. We'll be back on Nightside right
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after this.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I've been a busy night here in Nightside. We have packed,
we have packed the lines. I'm gonna go very quickly
to Bill in Natick and then I'm going to go
to Mike and Plymouth and taking him in order. Bill,
thanks for calling in. Next on Nightside, I'm going to
ask you to be quick.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Go ahead, Bill, can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I can hear you? Find go right ahead?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Okay, great, be quick. The issue of Fenway Park being
cash list is a little bit of a red herring.
Let me explain why you can bring cash to Fenway
Park and tidy garden Angelette Stadium. And what you do
is the way that they get around this is they
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have tiosks there so that you take your you say
you're going to spend thirty dollars on your dogs and beers.
You put in thirty dollars to the kiosk and you
get back a master card debit card so you can
bring cash. You just go, you just trade.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
My question, My question is if you put thirty in,
do you get a credit card, a card that's worth
the thirty or is it discounted?
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Yes, you get you get it. You get a plastic
debit card that you can use at the vendors and
Fenery Park And it's the same thing that they do
at TV Garden Angelette Stadium. They've borne all gone to
the So.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I got a question for you. I got a question
for you. So you're going to figure it out. You
try to figure it out as best you can. If you,
let's say, want to buy I don't know, and it
comes to thirty two bucks and you got a thirty
dollars debit card of some sort, you're out of luck. Okay, okay,
(32:54):
So now what about you say to yourself, Okay, what
is that? So you can't buy, you have to then
say okay, then I don't want the hot dog or
I don't want to be it. Right now, you got
a card in your hand, it's you give it to
them thirty Did they give you back change in cash
or did they give you back change? Yeah, I bought you.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
No. I understand your question, Dan. What it is is
basically it is a MasterCard debit card. So if you
have let's say you only use up twenty dollars of
that thirty dollars that you put in the machine, and
you can use that ten dollars to stop and stop
or anyplace else that turn out.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Okay, I still don't understand why the other thing, why
do they put you through the inconvenience? Why is that?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
What's the beneficent It's more it's quicker. It's quicker for
the transaction than paying cash. And also and also it
it also there is there's always an issue of steft
uh with employees that is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
On the front of it, on that right right, So
they're doing it for that way, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
And by the way, this is just like how you
used to have to do with the Charlie cards.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
The MTTA.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
You put money in the in the machine and you
get back to Charlie cards leading with X amount of dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So when we go to a castle society, when we
go to a castless society, a castle economy, you're gonna
be okay with it.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
Right on.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I use cast myself a lot, but I also don't
like using credit I don't like using credit cards that
can be that can be hacked. By the way, the
other thing is the Massachusetts Attorney General has ruled on
the sports venues providing this type of service with the
kiosks for debit cards, and say, because they offer you
the ability to put in cash together debit cards, it's
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perfectly legal.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Lead right, and again, remember all those politicians do they
do accept campaign contributions from the sports teams, correct, Bill,
Thank you much, of course they do.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Yeh.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
By the way, Dan, gotta go, Bill. We've got four
minutes and no one else is going to get four minutes,
no else going to get two minutes. Got to run.
I love the call, Thank you very much. Mike in Plymouth.
Mike was at the game. Mike, what was it like
inside the ballpark tonight?
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (35:10):
It was packed. It was a sellout crowd. They sold
out all the standing room tickets, and every concession that
I saw, I was working the game for a public
safety agency, and every every concession I saw behind home
plate was packed with long lines. Didn't appear to be
making a dent in the strike, didn't appear to be
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making a dent.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Well, well, that's sad in my opinion, because next time
it might be my arcs that being good or yours.
And for people to go in and put money in
Aermox parkt that was an insult to the to the
people who have worked there. And I really mean that,
I feel that deeply.
Speaker 10 (35:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Unfortunately, it was a very hot night, so people who
came thirsty and they drank and they played the Dodgers,
and the Dodgers travel there. You well, so there was
probably one in three fans of the fans with Dodger fans.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
No, no, and thank you, thank you very much for that.
But I would say any Red Sox fan who not
only crossed the picket line, I'll give him a pass
on crossing the picket line, but to put money in
Aaron Maox pocket after what they're doing into these uh
these employees, reprehensible in my opinion.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
I agree with you. I'm a union employee myself, all right.
But the fans didn't seem to care about the strike.
They really didn't. It was kind of sad.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Well, it is kind of sad because you know what
happens is breaks that union, someone else breaks another union.
They've just had a bunch of buyouts at at a
local television station. It's, you know whatever, it's it's not
a good trend. Mike. Thank you so much for your call.
I really do appreciate it. Thank you for what you do.
Speaker 11 (36:51):
Thank you, my friend Terry and Harwich.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Terry, you got to be quick for me. You've been
waiting a long time, like to get you and at
least one more and go ahead, Terry.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
So what happened to when there's a power failure?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
No, I'm with you, I wonder that's a great question.
It's a great question. And the other thing that I
want to just throw quick the kids today were Central
Court acc in school.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
So if I ask you how many ones.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
Are in twenty seven?
Speaker 7 (37:24):
What would you tell.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Me how many ones are in the number twenty seven?
Speaker 7 (37:31):
Correct? Twenty seven, That's what I would say. But that's
not the answer.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
What's The real.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Answer is two tens.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Two tens. Did I lose you? Terry here, Terry, I
think we lost you, Terry, we lost your apologize, Jill.
We are freely tight on time. I'm actually getting in here.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Jill ahead.
Speaker 11 (38:00):
I thought it told me years ago. Pay Telephones had
a counting room and the workers who worked there had
inside sown pockets and a lot of money left. Every
time there is accounting, there's accounting room, money disappears. Every
time there's a transaction, money disappears. So they did that.
(38:21):
By the way, you probably know Aramac before they were
bought by the new owners Red Sox gave Aramac a
thirty year contract.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
So I realized they gave them a thirty year contract.
But that's very generous of them.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
So that so that there's a legacy of money that
comes out of Arabach and goes backwards into previous people
associated part owners. The Red Sox were owned at one
time by you know, six or seven different people, and
Harrington managed them well.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
It was owned The Red Sox were owned by the
estate of the Yachey family and yeah, Tom Tom Yacky
when he died, it was owned by g Yeah, and
then when they sold it when they sold the Red
Sox to John Henry and Tom Warner. Larry Leuke Keenyan
was a part owner, as there were also six or
seven other people who were minority owners.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Absolutely, Larry was terrific.
Speaker 11 (39:18):
Now a couple of a couple of other things.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
George, Unfortunately, I don't have time even for one other
thing because I'm at eleven o'clock and.
Speaker 11 (39:26):
I'm no, no, no, I want to go back to
the Nipmunk Indians.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
George. I know you'd like to, but I got to
go to a newscast, and unfortunately the newscast beats the Nipmunks.
We plugged the nip Munks, and I got to get
you to call earlier. But it's eleven o'clock and here
comes the news. Thanks George, Thanks gill Ian and san Antonio.
I apologize. I wish you had called earlier. Want to
hold on, We'll talk on the other side. The twentieth
Hour awaits right after the eleven o'clock news.
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