July 24, 2025 • 37 mins
Concession workers at Fenway Park are positioning themselves to strike if an agreement on a labor contract cannot be made by Friday at noon. UNITE HERE Local 26, the union representing the workers, says park workers are “paid poverty wages”. If Fenway’s concession workers do go on strike Friday, it will be the first strike held at the ballpark since it opened 113 years ago! In addition, more than 1,000 workers would be on strike for the Red Sox’s home stand this weekend against the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pace night side with Dan Ray on WBZ Foston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, thank you very much, Dan Walkin. Yeah, the
Red Sox are off tonight, but tomorrow and I Mookie Betts.
I hope Bets is going to play a gains Come
returns to Fenway Park. I think it's his second time
back since the trade in whatever. Think that was that
horrible trade the Red Sox made. Anyway, the Red Sox
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have been operating at Fenway Park since what nineteen twelve,
and before that they were at Northeastern University for their
first World Series. They've been at Fenway Park over one
hundred years, and they celebrated one hundredth anniversary in twenty twelve.
The Red Sox opened the same year the Titanic sank.
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And now, for the first time in the this would
be the one hundred and thirteen year history of the
Red Sox at Fenway Park, counting back to nineteen twelve.
There's a possibility that there will be a strike tomorrow
night amongst the concessionaires. So you're ready to go to
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Fenway tomorrow night watch the Red Sox beat the Dodgers
and sit inside the ballpark without a hot dog, without
a beer, without a coke, PEPSI whatever they they sell coke,
I think at Fenway Park. The way it works at
Fenway Park is the Red Sox own Fenway Park and
they have a deal with concessionaires called Erra Mark. Any
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of you know what the prices of items are at
Fenway Park. I'm looking at a website here which I
think is accurate. A regular Fenway Frank regular hot dog
is about six dollars and fifty cents. A jumbo version
of a hot dog is ten bucks. A sausage with
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pepper and onions ten bucks, A sixteen ounce soda in
a paper cup six bucks. Well, a thirty two ounce
souvenir cup is that ten bucks. A beer prices start
at eight dollars for a twelve ounce beer, and you
can go up to sixteen for a twenty four ounce beer.
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There's other items here that they sell at Fenway Park,
and you know it's Look, if you go to Fenway Park,
it's expensive. It's expensive. You're not allowed to bring, to
the best of my knowledge, food into Fenway Park. You
maybe can sneak a sandwich in, but you can't bring
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your own hot dogs in and grill them in the stands.
It's an exten an expensive proposition. So now tomorrow it's
possible that Red Sox fans heading to Fenway Park might
face a picket line. There's a union, it's some union workers,
Unite Local twenty six said on Wednesday, now there's no
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time here. But in an article in the Boston Herald
by Grace Jakovich, she said we're here today to announce
a forty eight Well she didn't say. This was said
by Local twenty six President Carlos Arameo. It's a good
last name, Arameo, because he has to negotiate with Aramark.
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They're the employers. As I understand it, we're here to
announce a forty eight hour deadline to get this contract
settled at Local twenty six, President Carlos Arameo. That kind
of like Aeron Mark and Mayonnaise Arameo. We did invite
President Arameo to join us tonight, but we didn't hear back.
I know my producer, Producer Lightning, did speak with some
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members at the union office trying to get word to
the president. Said we have forty eight hours. Aramark and
Fenway Park have forty eight hours to get this done.
Now again, I'm assuming that Fenway the Red Sox must
be negotiating with how these folks are paid. Local twenty
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six union represents, cashier's cooks, bar backs, souvenir vendors, utility
workers and more at MGM Music Hall in Fenway Park
voted ninety five authorize the strike in June. If the
deal's not met by Friday, be the first ever of
the park's one thirteen year or thirteen year storied history.
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And it's not. It has to be done by noon. Now.
Obviously they could push the deadline out a little bit,
but it's possible. It's possible the strike would impact the
Red Sox game tomorrow night unless they decided to delay it.
As of Wednesday, Ara Mail, the union president, said the
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two parties are a part on a dollars not cents, addie.
Their gap is really re significant. The Red Sox send
in a statement Wednesday that they're not party to these
discussions but are hopeful that a fair resolution can be
agreed upon. Now. The Red Sox give the concessions to
Ara Mark, who that employs the union members. They have
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been assured we remain in regular communications with Aramark and
have been assured they are prepared with contingency plans to
ensure a Fenway Park experience remained seamless for our fans
during the weekend series. That could get ugly. I mean
if there were people who were somehow, you know, bust
into the ballpark under a cloak of darkness and they
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were going to be the people that sold hot dogs
and beer in the stands, I would assume verrsutly everybody
in my audience, ninety percent of you have been to
Fenway Park, so you know how it is now Many
at the park this according to the Globes, to the
Herald story, many at the park in concert halls work
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two jobs. Workers said. Scores of employees come in making
minimum wage and work their way up to eighteen to
twenty dollars an hour, our Mayo said, noting that bu
workers doing similar jobs make around twenty six to twenty
eight an hour. Workers also spoke of the rise in
automative master in checkout machines replacing their jobs. There used
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to be four beer sellers at one particular stand. Send
a bio seller who worked for twenty eight years. Now
there's one person watching over four of these machines. So
there you lose three people once had a job and
one that once earned wages, that once received gratuity, now
received nothing. So here's my question. I just want to
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open it up. Does this impact you in any way,
shape or form. People spend a lot of money to
go to these games. As matter of fact, tickets for
the weekend's games of skyrocketing, aging from around one hundred
and fifty to over two thousand on resale markets. Yeah,
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that's that's a lot of money to go to a
ball game. So my question to you is, if you
have tickets tomorrow night, will you honor the picket line
or will you go in? Obviously, if Ara Mark agrees
to pay the workers an increase, a substantial increase in
their hourly wage, I'll tell you what's going to go up.
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Price of beer, price of hot dogs. I mean, that's
pretty they're pretty expensive now. So I just want to
throw this out here to you. For those of you
who have been to Fenway Park, and I think it's
most of you, what do you think it would be
like if there are no beer? No beer inside the ballpark,
no hot dogs, no cokes, Pepsi's I think it's coke
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at Fenway Park. I haven't been there in a few years,
to be honest with you, but I'd just like to know,
does does this bother you or is it just something
that you won't even notice going in tomorrow? It could
get it could it could get pretty if they go
on strike, if the Red Sox going rather, if the
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work is at Fenway Park going strike, it could be
a national story. And we try to keep your head
of stories here at nightside. So this is the one
that I picked for the ten o'clock news tonight. I
hope you're interested in it. Do you pay? I'll give
you the Goldilocks question two? At Fenway Park? Do you
feel the prices right now are too much, too little
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or just right? If you think they're too little. If
this strike is settled, they're going to go up. If
it's not settled, there'll be no concessions there tomorrow, I assume.
And if you feel that they can, they could go up.
Could they could go up? More? So that's the six, one, seven, two, five, four,
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ten thirty. Go to a ball game at Fenway Park
on a Friday night at the end of July to
watch the Dodgers former Brooklyn Dodgers now the LA Dodgers
play the Boston Red Sox. I gotta tell you it
would It would be a beautiful night if you had
a beer and a hot dog. You may not tomorrow night.
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If you're going or you've been, would it impact you? Now?
We have lines filling up very quickly, which I like.
The only lines that are open right now. Don't waste
your time dialing six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
They're full. Try six, Try six one seven, nine three one,
ten thirty. We're coming right back on night side.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You're on night side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you
BZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
All right, it's Baseball's back Fenway tomorrow night. Red Sox
or they're showing some signs of life, but they still uh.
They had a kind of a disappointing road trip against
good teams, no question about that. But you've got to
play well against good teams as well. And we're talking
about a potential concession strike tomorrow night. It will be
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the first in the one hundred and thirteen year history
of this venerable organization. Let me start it off with
Rashid in Dorchester. Rashid, I don't know if you're a
baseball fan or not, but it's always tastes good when
you go to a baseball game to be able to
have a little refreshment of some sort.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I agree, And I think the real strike should be
against the management and ownership of the Red Sox. I mean,
it's not really the first time that they just don't
pay people. I think we've seen that with Moki Betts
and some of the other great franchise players that could
have been. The Red Sox prefer to not pay them,
so they traded them. So I you know, you know, listen,
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I think that.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
What they what they do Rashid, is they sign them
to a long trim contract, then they try that's happened
if that's his point. And also Raphael Devers. Devers last
night yesterday had two home runs for the Atlanta Braves
as the Giants beat the Braves on the road. Yeah,
so I understand what you happening.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So I think that if their workers want to strike,
they should strike, because concessions is a big market when
it comes to sports stadiums. Concessions is where the where
you make the most money. And you know, the margins
for the Red Sox are ridiculously high. If you're paying
ten dollars for a simple hot dog or a simple sausage,
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or just paying exuberant amounts for soda. They're making a
lot of money. So if they can't, you know, as
I don't know, Dan, if you knew of the Huey Long,
he was a famous Oh.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, Louisiana former governor of Louisiana. Yes, go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
From the king, Yeah, spread the wealth. And if you
don't want to spread the wealth in hey, I think
that people have a right to not want to work.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well. The only thing is that ticket prices at Fenway
Park very If you're sitting in the seats down front,
you or someone's paying a lot for those tickets. If
you're on the bleachers or in the what used to
be called the right field pavilion, or you know, some
of the upper grandstand seats, they're more you know, they're
more reasonable. However, the price of a hot dog is
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going to be the same whether you're sitting in the
the seats down front or what back, and they're pretty expensive.
I guess it's six p fifty for a traditional hot dog,
and they have like a super hot dog that goes crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You know, it's just so disrespectful. But yeah, they deserve
to get paid and if they got to do what
they got to do. I mean, I think I've.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Been noticing there's been a lot of union strikes, and
you know, I support the union sometimes all the time,
Like I think that I wasn't really supportive of that
gentleman who was saying that they're the long storming We're
no longer going to.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Like accept imports. I thought that was like legitimately ridiculous.
But I mean, we've been seeing a lot of strikes.
Who've been seeing the strike with the team stirs right
now in the trash, which is that's not that's not good.
I mean, that's really a public health It's going to
become a public health problem.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I get that. At the same time, you have a
lot of teacher strikes that are going on. Yet that
teacher strike in Newton a couple of years ago, that
for all my criticism of ruthane Full of the mayor
of Newton, I thought she handled the teacher strike pretty well.
That they had they enjoyed Christmas in New Year's vacation,
and they came back in early January, they went on strike.
They were out for about three three and a half weeks.
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The kids in Newton missed an entire month of classes
they had.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
That was pretty little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
But the teachers unions that have never been a friend
to lawns or students. They're a very narcissistic group of
people that care about themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I mean, well, there's a lot of great let me
just let me let me try to comment on that.
There's a lot of wonderful teachers out there who care deeply.
I think the union leadership uh has leaves leaves a
lot to be desired. The Randy Wine Gartners of the
world and Max Page here in Massachusetts. Uh, you know,
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they're union leaders and they have what they considered to
be a job to do to get the best deal
for their their members. But there's a lot of teachers
who are just great teachers and dedicated to the craft. Rushie,
thanks for getting us going. Was the last time you're
at Fenway Park?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I haven't been in Fenway Park in a long time.
I've been kind of like silently boycotting your team. I
want to see teams. I want to see teams that win,
and like I think that you know, mister Henry is
more focused on soccer than he is a baseball and well.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
They have diversified with the Fenway Sports Group. There's no
there's no doubt about that. So for sure we'll have
to see I hated to see Bets go and and
I actually hated it. I hated to see dev go
to And I know.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
They didn't want to be here though, you didn't want
to be here, so you had to do something.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And maybe I get that, but I think they could
have gotten more for Devors, meaning you know, to trade
him that early, uh, before you figure out you know
he I think they could have gotten more. I mean, well,
you know, you you have an investment and you have
a It's like selling your house. If you have a
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really nice house and you want to sell it for
a million dollars, you don't take when the first guy
walks in the door and says, well, i'll give you
five hundred thousand, you don't say okay, you got it.
I mean, yeah, they should have shoved him around a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
That's what they do, not like the Yankees, who spend
millions of dollars, hundreds of millions dollars just to lose.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So oh yeah, I mean they're they're they're the bigger
disappointment in the Red Sox. I mean when you look
at the money the Yankees have spent and they the pictures,
their pictures have have have literally dropped like flies. I
mean starters, relievers. They've brought a lot of guys up
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from US, Grant and Wilkesbury. Thanks Rashid, talk to you soon,
my friend. Thank you. Dan. Quick break here six one, seven, two,
five four, ten thirty. Now I got a couple of
lines there. The other lines are tied up, so if
you want to get through six one, seven, two, five
four to ten thirty, we'll use to port the concessionaire
strike at Fenway tomorrow if it eventuates. It sounds to
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me like they're fairly far apart, but I'm not close
to the negotiation, so I really don't know. If you
happen to be someone who works as a concessionaire at
Fenway Park, let us know. Tell us what your what
your situation is. If the strike is settled and the
union is get is satisfied, I think the price of
concessions is going to necessarily have to go up. We'll
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be back on night side right after this.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You're on night Side with Dan on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Now let me go to David in San Francisco. David,
you got Raffie Devers? Congratulations? How are you.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Not too darn bad? You know, it's funny I hearing
about the wages that are being paid there. I remember
when Gary Templeton was the first day, and I think
it was in the early seventies, and at the time,
we got bleacher seats for twenty five cents. This is
the Saint Louis Cardinals. And remember the Cardinals had been
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doing well in the sixties and seventies, so you know,
they weren't spikers about charging for admission. But the minimum
wage was about two and a half dollars an hour.
And how much your bleacher seats.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Now, oh, I don't have that off the top of
my head, but I would suspect that bleacher seats at
Fenway Park probably depending upon how close you are to
the bullpen, if you know the configuration Fenway Park, probably
twenty five bucks thirty bucks.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Sure, So if you were to look at one hundred
times what the uh If twenty five cents is what
one hundred times twenty five dollars, yep, then the minimum
wage should be commensurate. And yeah, so I would think
that that should be a part of this.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So the minimum wage for everyone, or the minimum wage
for the consent the people work in concessions at Fenway.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Well, I remember selling newspapers when I was a kid
and they were three cents and now they're two bucks or.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
More or more. Okay, I get that, but we're talking,
we're talking the concessionaires at Fenway Park, and we're you know,
we're just kind of focused on that tonight. So these
guys supposedly top out at eighteen to twenty dollars an hour,
and the Union is saying that just up the street
at BU which has hockey games and they don't have
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a football team, but you know they have a good
hockey team, and that their concessionaires make as much as
twenty six or twenty eight dollars an hour. That's quite
a spread.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Well, right, And as a matter of fact, San Francisco
just last month raised our minimum wage to nineteen and change.
And I was interested more in this angle of the
robot economy is starting to steal away jobs but lending
higher profits.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
David, you know that we talk about that fairly often
on this program. You and I tend not to agree
on a lot of things. But when I go into
a supermarket, I refuse to use those you know, those
automatic checkout machines. I want to stand. I want to
be have my items checked out by a clerk. I
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don't want to be complicit in taking away jobs from people.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Yeah, right, because I do the same.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
It's it's no.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You and I finally have a great point of agreement.
And I'm serious when I say that. By the way,
we have a controversy here with you have Weimo cars
in San Francisco. Today they had a demonstration in Boston
with Uber and Lyft drivers who are upset about Weimo.
Weimo vehicles may be coming into Boston, and for.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Good reason they should be upset, because, if you're familiar
with there are so many things about the robot economy
that are stealing our lives.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I just want to I just want to tell you
one other irony here on that if you don't mind.
When Uber and Lyft came into Boston about ten years ago,
all of the value of the hackney licenses, the hard
work and blue collar cab drivers, the value of their
licenses dropped dramatically. So the Uber and Lyft drivers came
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in kind of hurt the taxiri tab drivers because Boston
is kind of like San Francisco, a big city but
really not a huge city. And now Waimo is coming
in and hurting the uber and lyft drivers and they're
upset about it. So complicated stuff, David, Well, and.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
For good reason.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
You're right about the.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Token.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
The medallions is what they call him out here. Same
thing here they calls from a quarter million value down
to about forty thousand, and it may not even be
worth that anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
They talked out here at six hundred thousand and six
hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Sure I can imagine. Well, the thing that bugs me
and this kind of goes to when Elon Musk got
into the treasury and got all our social security numbers,
and then the Supreme Court about a month and a
half ago said that he gets to keep our social
security numbers and that the Freedom of Information Act can
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not be used to let us know how he's using them. Now,
if you can imagine all our data being sent over
to some robot company who could then milk us for
all its worth and then try to cheat us about
what we get back, that we no longer get fire departments,
that we no longer get street sweeping, we no longer
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get anything, and that the robot economy gets to run
away with all the money.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I think that you're concerned about things that are never
going to eventuate. I mean, you can lose thought about them,
you can have those thoughts. But I think we'll always
have a fire department. Okay, well you'd hope.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
But even out here in San Francisco, about twenty five
years ago, the mayor actually started shutting down the fire
stations and forcing the trucks to drive around endlessly. Thinking
about that on wear and tear on a vehicle, he
could sell the land of a fire yea.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
By the way, I just did a little research Elon
Musk does not have our social security numbers and a
significant legal victory a court issue in order preventing Musk
indulge from accessing, sharing, or disclosing social security information and
require them to delete any data that they have already saved.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
So anyway that doesn't match with the Supreme Court ruling
of about a month and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Well this I have this, you know what, Send me
the rulings. Okay, I'm not going to argue with you.
We've had a pleasant conversation. But send me the rulings
and I'll be happy to correct myself if those rulings
are as you represent them. David, I got to run
because they got a bunch of callers here of my friend.
I enjoyed our conversation tonight, and you're not going in
to drink tonight. Thank you, my friend. Have a great night.
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Let me go next to Bobby. Bobby in Revere. Bobby
in Revere, and I also got Bubba in Boston. I
almost went to Bubba in Boston, but Bobby and Revere's next,
go ahead. Bobby works at Fenway. Hey Bobby, what do
you do with fenn Way?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
If I could ask, I'm a beer tender.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh so okay, what what what are you making? That's
a tough job. That's those are heavy, you know, heavy
crates to when you when you started start out. I mean,
what's the beer costs? Now? Is it ten bucks of beer?
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Let me see, No, it's about eleven or twelve, ten, eleven,
seventy five or something for the past cost Is that
just happened? They jack the prices up by two dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Okay, but but what about Red Sox games, Red Sox game.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
But I'm gonna say for a bud light, I think
it's eleven, eleven, twenty five or so.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Okay, So that's good because you probably get a pretty
good tip every time you give someone a beer.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, well, it depends. I mean not everybody tips.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, I get it. But I'm saying if if if
I buy a beer from you or you know whatever,
and I give you, you know, a ten and a five,
I'm gonna say, hey, keep a buck seventy five, okay,
because I paid at a quarter already. What do you
take out of there every night? In tips? If I
could ask as a beer.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Sales, it depends, Okay, concerts we do well. What I
take out it varies. I could give me a raise
every very good night, I could take upwards. I'd say
five hundred. That's on a great night.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Okay, hold on, hold on, let me just let's go slow.
Five hundred in cash.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
No, it's on credit CAD.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Okay, So so you get the money. So so most
people are not using cash. That's another story. I want
to get to the cash litw society. I will at
a ballpark. I'm not going to spend eleven bucks on
a credit card. I'm giving you cash, and I'm leaving
and I'm giving you tips.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
We're not allowed to take cash. You what, we're not
allowed to take care?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Oh you right now? That's a cashless ballpark. Yeah, that's
crazy too in my opinion. Okay, So, so so you
you work the entire night up through the seventh inning,
selling beers? You sell? What's the total? Is your take?
Five hundred of what?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
That's not a great night? Yeah? Like your constant, like
the constants that just passed. Yeah, that would be one
of those.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay, So so you are paid by Ara Mark for
that night?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Do you get paid?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I got it? Correct? You on the fans will tip
me Aramock pis mean minimal. If they could get me
to work for free, they would.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Okay, So so they're paying you somewhere around eighteen bucks
an hour or what?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Let me see if I take home, I mean, if
I make one hundred and twenty nine at a shift
the shift.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I'll do the math for you. I'm really good at.
So you're in an eight hour shift?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Half hours? How many seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, let's call it eight. Okay, so you're making about
fifteen dollars an hour.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Okay, that's that's the way we're works, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
That's that's that's about the one hundred and twenty nine,
maybe a little more fifteen something in an hour. Okay.
So now if so, if you work, you shift, you
get one hundred and twenty nine, and then on a
good night, you're gonna pick up another five hundred tips.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
It's on a great yeah, yeah, on a great.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Night, on an average night, overage night, average night. Not
the Yankees, but it's the Red Sox versus Minnesota. What
do you pick up?
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
No, that okay, I'll give you Like an April when
Toronto was in it was like twenty five degrees out.
I made forty dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I think I can understand that. But that's that's an anomaly.
So you've given me the high, you give me the low.
What's an average night, A night in July? You know
when it's when it's a decent night, but not the Yankees. Okay,
just give me a give me a rough up, a
couple of hundreds.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
No, I'd say I'd say about a buck, a buck
fifty to two hundred.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay, so let's call it two hundred. So two hundred plus,
so you're making three hundred. Let's say let's say you
make three hundred a night, fair enough on average? Go ahead, Yeah,
you got eighty one games. That means to me as
a part time beer vendor at Fenway Park, you make
twenty four k in the summer for the for the season,
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assuming you work all eighty one games.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Okay, I can buy that one.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, Now, you don't do this full time?
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Do you no?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What's your other job?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
I retired. I'm retired from the post office.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Good for you, Good for you? Okay, excellent, excellent. So
this is a nice little side hustle.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yeah, that's all it is, right now.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Okay, So let me ask you this, Bob, what do
you think the chances are that they're going to settle
this thing before game time tomorrow night? Or do you
think you're going to be out in the picket line.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
We're out in the picket line.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay. Look, here's here's my thought, my friend. I want
to wish you the best of luck. I hope the
Union does the right thing for you. I hope Ara
Mark does the right thing for you. And you've been
very honest with me, and you've been one of my
best callers of the week, and I mean that honestly.
You you answered my questions and you answer them honestly,
and you gave me a perspective. Now, as a beer guy,
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you get it. You have to pick your shifts right.
So I couldn't go there. Let's say I retired tomorrow
and I said, hey, Bob, I want to work at Fenway.
Not easy to get that job, right.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
You can get the job applying for it, but you
have to start at the bottom of the seniority list, okay.
And it's taking the bottom jobs like serving hot dogs
or whatnot on machines. It's just by seniority. But management
seems to be manipulating the seniority. Now that's a new
management and they're taking.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Care of who's the Who's the boogeyman? Is the boogeyman?
Aramark or or the Red Sox? Obviously you work for Aramark,
not for the Red Sox.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, it's Aro Mark.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Okay. But I appreciate your call so much. It was
an excellent call.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Hi, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's a great call. Let me tell you he was
as honest as the day is long. We're gonna keep
rolling here got to take a break, Joe, Bubba and Claren.
Is it Claris Clarice, Clarice maybe from Winthrop. We're gonna
get you guys in, I promise, and we're gonna take
this into the next hour two. So feel free, folks,
light these lines up. We're gonna learn about this. But
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Bob couldn't have been clearer. He says they're gonna strike.
He didn't equivocate. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
By the way, real quickly, here, real quickly. David's point
from San Francisco, there is a little more substance to
what he had to say. Let me explain why I
think he was incorrect. The Supreme Court in June gave
temporarily access to the Doge Team, launched by Elon Musk,
not to Elon Musk, but to the Doze Team, access
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to information collected by the Social Curtiveman data that includes
so security numbers, medical mental health records, and family court
information and unsigned order. The Court, acting at the request
of the Trump administration, overturned actions by too lower courts
that had limited the Dose Team's access to censitive private
information The case is sent back to the Fourth Circuit
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Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia to rule the merits.
A conservative supermajority ruled in favor of dogs. The course.
Three liberals said they would have ruled the other way,
temporarily barring the dose team access to the SO Security records.
This is something that is still in adjudication. And the
way that my friend David in San Francisco tried to
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spin it was that somehow Elon Musk walked away with
all of these records of SO Security. That is not
what the case was about. Let's go next too, Where
were going to go? I'm going to go to Bubba
in Boston. Hey, Bubba, welcome, How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (31:59):
I'm doing great?
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Da, Thanks, how are you?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I'm doing great? Your take on the the concession potential
concessionaire strike at Fenway?
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Oh, then, I used to work at Fenway and I
used to work at Gillette, and they're pretty different. Okay,
at both places. The good jobs you get tipped and
the bad jobs you get if you're jewing or whatever.
And if you're patient, you'll you'll get work. You'll you'll
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work your way up.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But so so Gillett's different than Fenway because Fenway has
eighty one baseball games a year. Jillette has, you know,
ten games including the exhibition games in August or eleven.
Maybe yeah, ten, you know, but they have about eight
or nine home games and a couple of home games.
I mean maybe on a per capita basis, which crowd
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was better the football crowd of the baseball crowd?
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Well, from my opinion, now, the football crowd was better.
Plus there's also a lot of concerts, and there's there's
other events. There's always something going on at Gillette.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, also but okay, so so real real quickly, baba,
how much would you take home on average? Roughly? There was?
Were you working full time at those two places? Were
those two jobs your full time job?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
No?
Speaker 7 (33:21):
I was retired and it was fun. But I'll tell
you this, I would I didn't really like working at
Fameway because, uh, the tips weren't shared. I worked in
one of the restaurants as a food runner and very
rarely do they have to get any money from uh,
from my co workers.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
But anyhow, yeah, are the tips shared at Gillette?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (33:43):
And I'll say where I worked in Gillette, I was
very fortunate. I worked as a food runner up in
the suites, and that's what the big money is. That's
what the big money is for for the employees that
work there. Sure, just to say one thing, when you
were talking about some good school teachers out there, there's
some really good employees at Fenway. And I know one
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in particular, and she doesn't want to go on strike
because she's a sweet attendant and she loves what she
does and she and the people that are in the
suite love her. Yeah, so you know, there's always exceptions,
but I'll pay. When I left Fenway, I'd never go
back to work there again. But at Jouette, I loved
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working there. We didn't have a union, we were well paid.
I thought that that the organization took very good care
of the employees and that's why they didn't have a union.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Sure, well that's exactly that's always the story. If you
want to keep the union out, keep there the employees
as well.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
Yeah. Well, let me tell you. I also think that
the Red Sox are complacent if they are complicit in
this as well, because they I'm assuming I think how
they make money is they charge Aaron Mark a fee
over there.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Oh, absolutely, they a they give Aramaco contract, uh, and
and they got they got a piece of the action,
of course they do.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Well, anyways, it's just so the employees, most of them,
they're they're really I don't use a bad word, but
you know, it's not really a great situation. And a
lot of these employees they're working more than one job.
And like you said that that Gillette is not that many,
but it's a different environment. But anyhow, I just feel
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bad for for the employees, and it's just a very
very sad situation, you know. And then I feel bad
to the fans. But they have a choice. You couldn't
get me to go to friendly uh and pay for
any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
All right. I mean I'm up against my break, so
I got to let you go. But thank you very
much for your for your perspective. What's the most money
you made either at Gillette or Atway in any given year.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Well, per game at Gillette, it really wasn't hard work,
and uh, the base pay was pretty good, but the
tips were huge. We get a percentage of the tips.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, give me a number. Just looking for I know
that you're doing different things and obviously if you're up
in the sweet level. You're up there with the people
who have missed green in their pocket. So I get it.
I get it. What was what was your best year
at Gillette? And what was your best year at Fenway?
Speaker 7 (36:29):
All right, you know, Okay, if you don't want.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
To tell me, don't don't tell me, No problem, Gotta go, Bubba.
We're out of time. Thanks man, appreciate it. Okay, if
you're on the line six one seven, two, five, four
to ten thirty, we will get to Joe and Clarice
right after this. We're gonna stick with this six one seven, two,
five four to ten thirty or six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. Look, I'm not a dentist. I
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don't pull teeth. I asked questions. I look for answers
after I asked the question two or three times. I'm
not in a pulling teeth coming Aco Nightgat
Pace night side with Dan Ray on WBZ Foston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, thank you very much, Dan Walkin. Yeah, the
Red Sox are off tonight, but tomorrow and I Mookie Betts.
I hope Bets is going to play a gains Come
returns to Fenway Park. I think it's his second time
back since the trade in whatever. Think that was that
horrible trade the Red Sox made. Anyway, the Red Sox
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have been operating at Fenway Park since what nineteen twelve,
and before that they were at Northeastern University for their
first World Series. They've been at Fenway Park over one
hundred years, and they celebrated one hundredth anniversary in twenty twelve.
The Red Sox opened the same year the Titanic sank.
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And now, for the first time in the this would
be the one hundred and thirteen year history of the
Red Sox at Fenway Park, counting back to nineteen twelve.
There's a possibility that there will be a strike tomorrow
night amongst the concessionaires. So you're ready to go to
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Fenway tomorrow night watch the Red Sox beat the Dodgers
and sit inside the ballpark without a hot dog, without
a beer, without a coke, PEPSI whatever they they sell coke,
I think at Fenway Park. The way it works at
Fenway Park is the Red Sox own Fenway Park and
they have a deal with concessionaires called Erra Mark. Any
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of you know what the prices of items are at
Fenway Park. I'm looking at a website here which I
think is accurate. A regular Fenway Frank regular hot dog
is about six dollars and fifty cents. A jumbo version
of a hot dog is ten bucks. A sausage with
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pepper and onions ten bucks, A sixteen ounce soda in
a paper cup six bucks. Well, a thirty two ounce
souvenir cup is that ten bucks. A beer prices start
at eight dollars for a twelve ounce beer, and you
can go up to sixteen for a twenty four ounce beer.
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There's other items here that they sell at Fenway Park,
and you know it's Look, if you go to Fenway Park,
it's expensive. It's expensive. You're not allowed to bring, to
the best of my knowledge, food into Fenway Park. You
maybe can sneak a sandwich in, but you can't bring
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your own hot dogs in and grill them in the stands.
It's an exten an expensive proposition. So now tomorrow it's
possible that Red Sox fans heading to Fenway Park might
face a picket line. There's a union, it's some union workers,
Unite Local twenty six said on Wednesday, now there's no
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time here. But in an article in the Boston Herald
by Grace Jakovich, she said we're here today to announce
a forty eight Well she didn't say. This was said
by Local twenty six President Carlos Arameo. It's a good
last name, Arameo, because he has to negotiate with Aramark.
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They're the employers. As I understand it, we're here to
announce a forty eight hour deadline to get this contract
settled at Local twenty six, President Carlos Arameo. That kind
of like Aeron Mark and Mayonnaise Arameo. We did invite
President Arameo to join us tonight, but we didn't hear back.
I know my producer, Producer Lightning, did speak with some
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members at the union office trying to get word to
the president. Said we have forty eight hours. Aramark and
Fenway Park have forty eight hours to get this done.
Now again, I'm assuming that Fenway the Red Sox must
be negotiating with how these folks are paid. Local twenty
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six union represents, cashier's cooks, bar backs, souvenir vendors, utility
workers and more at MGM Music Hall in Fenway Park
voted ninety five authorize the strike in June. If the
deal's not met by Friday, be the first ever of
the park's one thirteen year or thirteen year storied history.
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And it's not. It has to be done by noon. Now.
Obviously they could push the deadline out a little bit,
but it's possible. It's possible the strike would impact the
Red Sox game tomorrow night unless they decided to delay it.
As of Wednesday, Ara Mail, the union president, said the
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two parties are a part on a dollars not cents, addie.
Their gap is really re significant. The Red Sox send
in a statement Wednesday that they're not party to these
discussions but are hopeful that a fair resolution can be
agreed upon. Now. The Red Sox give the concessions to
Ara Mark, who that employs the union members. They have
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been assured we remain in regular communications with Aramark and
have been assured they are prepared with contingency plans to
ensure a Fenway Park experience remained seamless for our fans
during the weekend series. That could get ugly. I mean
if there were people who were somehow, you know, bust
into the ballpark under a cloak of darkness and they
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were going to be the people that sold hot dogs
and beer in the stands, I would assume verrsutly everybody
in my audience, ninety percent of you have been to
Fenway Park, so you know how it is now Many
at the park this according to the Globes, to the
Herald story, many at the park in concert halls work
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two jobs. Workers said. Scores of employees come in making
minimum wage and work their way up to eighteen to
twenty dollars an hour, our Mayo said, noting that bu
workers doing similar jobs make around twenty six to twenty
eight an hour. Workers also spoke of the rise in
automative master in checkout machines replacing their jobs. There used
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to be four beer sellers at one particular stand. Send
a bio seller who worked for twenty eight years. Now
there's one person watching over four of these machines. So
there you lose three people once had a job and
one that once earned wages, that once received gratuity, now
received nothing. So here's my question. I just want to
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open it up. Does this impact you in any way,
shape or form. People spend a lot of money to
go to these games. As matter of fact, tickets for
the weekend's games of skyrocketing, aging from around one hundred
and fifty to over two thousand on resale markets. Yeah,
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that's that's a lot of money to go to a
ball game. So my question to you is, if you
have tickets tomorrow night, will you honor the picket line
or will you go in? Obviously, if Ara Mark agrees
to pay the workers an increase, a substantial increase in
their hourly wage, I'll tell you what's going to go up.
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Price of beer, price of hot dogs. I mean, that's
pretty they're pretty expensive now. So I just want to
throw this out here to you. For those of you
who have been to Fenway Park, and I think it's
most of you, what do you think it would be
like if there are no beer? No beer inside the ballpark,
no hot dogs, no cokes, Pepsi's I think it's coke
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at Fenway Park. I haven't been there in a few years,
to be honest with you, but I'd just like to know,
does does this bother you or is it just something
that you won't even notice going in tomorrow? It could
get it could it could get pretty if they go
on strike, if the Red Sox going rather, if the
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work is at Fenway Park going strike, it could be
a national story. And we try to keep your head
of stories here at nightside. So this is the one
that I picked for the ten o'clock news tonight. I
hope you're interested in it. Do you pay? I'll give
you the Goldilocks question two? At Fenway Park? Do you
feel the prices right now are too much, too little
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or just right? If you think they're too little. If
this strike is settled, they're going to go up. If
it's not settled, there'll be no concessions there tomorrow, I assume.
And if you feel that they can, they could go up.
Could they could go up? More? So that's the six, one, seven, two, five, four,
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ten thirty. Go to a ball game at Fenway Park
on a Friday night at the end of July to
watch the Dodgers former Brooklyn Dodgers now the LA Dodgers
play the Boston Red Sox. I gotta tell you it
would It would be a beautiful night if you had
a beer and a hot dog. You may not tomorrow night.
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If you're going or you've been, would it impact you? Now?
We have lines filling up very quickly, which I like.
The only lines that are open right now. Don't waste
your time dialing six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
They're full. Try six, Try six one seven, nine three one,
ten thirty. We're coming right back on night side.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You're on night side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you
BZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
All right, it's Baseball's back Fenway tomorrow night. Red Sox
or they're showing some signs of life, but they still uh.
They had a kind of a disappointing road trip against
good teams, no question about that. But you've got to
play well against good teams as well. And we're talking
about a potential concession strike tomorrow night. It will be
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the first in the one hundred and thirteen year history
of this venerable organization. Let me start it off with
Rashid in Dorchester. Rashid, I don't know if you're a
baseball fan or not, but it's always tastes good when
you go to a baseball game to be able to
have a little refreshment of some sort.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I agree, And I think the real strike should be
against the management and ownership of the Red Sox. I mean,
it's not really the first time that they just don't
pay people. I think we've seen that with Moki Betts
and some of the other great franchise players that could
have been. The Red Sox prefer to not pay them,
so they traded them. So I you know, you know, listen,
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I think that.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
What they what they do Rashid, is they sign them
to a long trim contract, then they try that's happened
if that's his point. And also Raphael Devers. Devers last
night yesterday had two home runs for the Atlanta Braves
as the Giants beat the Braves on the road. Yeah,
so I understand what you happening.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So I think that if their workers want to strike,
they should strike, because concessions is a big market when
it comes to sports stadiums. Concessions is where the where
you make the most money. And you know, the margins
for the Red Sox are ridiculously high. If you're paying
ten dollars for a simple hot dog or a simple sausage,
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or just paying exuberant amounts for soda. They're making a
lot of money. So if they can't, you know, as
I don't know, Dan, if you knew of the Huey Long,
he was a famous Oh.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, Louisiana former governor of Louisiana. Yes, go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
From the king, Yeah, spread the wealth. And if you
don't want to spread the wealth in hey, I think
that people have a right to not want to work.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well. The only thing is that ticket prices at Fenway
Park very If you're sitting in the seats down front,
you or someone's paying a lot for those tickets. If
you're on the bleachers or in the what used to
be called the right field pavilion, or you know, some
of the upper grandstand seats, they're more you know, they're
more reasonable. However, the price of a hot dog is
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going to be the same whether you're sitting in the
the seats down front or what back, and they're pretty expensive.
I guess it's six p fifty for a traditional hot dog,
and they have like a super hot dog that goes crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You know, it's just so disrespectful. But yeah, they deserve
to get paid and if they got to do what
they got to do. I mean, I think I've.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Been noticing there's been a lot of union strikes, and
you know, I support the union sometimes all the time,
Like I think that I wasn't really supportive of that
gentleman who was saying that they're the long storming We're
no longer going to.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Like accept imports. I thought that was like legitimately ridiculous.
But I mean, we've been seeing a lot of strikes.
Who've been seeing the strike with the team stirs right
now in the trash, which is that's not that's not good.
I mean, that's really a public health It's going to
become a public health problem.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I get that. At the same time, you have a
lot of teacher strikes that are going on. Yet that
teacher strike in Newton a couple of years ago, that
for all my criticism of ruthane Full of the mayor
of Newton, I thought she handled the teacher strike pretty well.
That they had they enjoyed Christmas in New Year's vacation,
and they came back in early January, they went on strike.
They were out for about three three and a half weeks.
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The kids in Newton missed an entire month of classes
they had.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
That was pretty little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
But the teachers unions that have never been a friend
to lawns or students. They're a very narcissistic group of
people that care about themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I mean, well, there's a lot of great let me
just let me let me try to comment on that.
There's a lot of wonderful teachers out there who care deeply.
I think the union leadership uh has leaves leaves a
lot to be desired. The Randy Wine Gartners of the
world and Max Page here in Massachusetts. Uh, you know,
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they're union leaders and they have what they considered to
be a job to do to get the best deal
for their their members. But there's a lot of teachers
who are just great teachers and dedicated to the craft. Rushie,
thanks for getting us going. Was the last time you're
at Fenway Park?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I haven't been in Fenway Park in a long time.
I've been kind of like silently boycotting your team. I
want to see teams. I want to see teams that win,
and like I think that you know, mister Henry is
more focused on soccer than he is a baseball and well.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
They have diversified with the Fenway Sports Group. There's no
there's no doubt about that. So for sure we'll have
to see I hated to see Bets go and and
I actually hated it. I hated to see dev go
to And I know.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
They didn't want to be here though, you didn't want
to be here, so you had to do something.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And maybe I get that, but I think they could
have gotten more for Devors, meaning you know, to trade
him that early, uh, before you figure out you know
he I think they could have gotten more. I mean, well,
you know, you you have an investment and you have
a It's like selling your house. If you have a
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really nice house and you want to sell it for
a million dollars, you don't take when the first guy
walks in the door and says, well, i'll give you
five hundred thousand, you don't say okay, you got it.
I mean, yeah, they should have shoved him around a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
That's what they do, not like the Yankees, who spend
millions of dollars, hundreds of millions dollars just to lose.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So oh yeah, I mean they're they're they're the bigger
disappointment in the Red Sox. I mean when you look
at the money the Yankees have spent and they the pictures,
their pictures have have have literally dropped like flies. I
mean starters, relievers. They've brought a lot of guys up
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from US, Grant and Wilkesbury. Thanks Rashid, talk to you soon,
my friend. Thank you. Dan. Quick break here six one, seven, two,
five four, ten thirty. Now I got a couple of
lines there. The other lines are tied up, so if
you want to get through six one, seven, two, five
four to ten thirty, we'll use to port the concessionaire
strike at Fenway tomorrow if it eventuates. It sounds to
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me like they're fairly far apart, but I'm not close
to the negotiation, so I really don't know. If you
happen to be someone who works as a concessionaire at
Fenway Park, let us know. Tell us what your what
your situation is. If the strike is settled and the
union is get is satisfied, I think the price of
concessions is going to necessarily have to go up. We'll
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be back on night side right after this.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You're on night Side with Dan on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Now let me go to David in San Francisco. David,
you got Raffie Devers? Congratulations? How are you.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Not too darn bad? You know, it's funny I hearing
about the wages that are being paid there. I remember
when Gary Templeton was the first day, and I think
it was in the early seventies, and at the time,
we got bleacher seats for twenty five cents. This is
the Saint Louis Cardinals. And remember the Cardinals had been
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doing well in the sixties and seventies, so you know,
they weren't spikers about charging for admission. But the minimum
wage was about two and a half dollars an hour.
And how much your bleacher seats.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Now, oh, I don't have that off the top of
my head, but I would suspect that bleacher seats at
Fenway Park probably depending upon how close you are to
the bullpen, if you know the configuration Fenway Park, probably
twenty five bucks thirty bucks.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Sure, So if you were to look at one hundred
times what the uh If twenty five cents is what
one hundred times twenty five dollars, yep, then the minimum
wage should be commensurate. And yeah, so I would think
that that should be a part of this.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So the minimum wage for everyone, or the minimum wage
for the consent the people work in concessions at Fenway.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Well, I remember selling newspapers when I was a kid
and they were three cents and now they're two bucks or.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
More or more. Okay, I get that, but we're talking,
we're talking the concessionaires at Fenway Park, and we're you know,
we're just kind of focused on that tonight. So these
guys supposedly top out at eighteen to twenty dollars an hour,
and the Union is saying that just up the street
at BU which has hockey games and they don't have
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a football team, but you know they have a good
hockey team, and that their concessionaires make as much as
twenty six or twenty eight dollars an hour. That's quite
a spread.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Well, right, And as a matter of fact, San Francisco
just last month raised our minimum wage to nineteen and change.
And I was interested more in this angle of the
robot economy is starting to steal away jobs but lending
higher profits.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
David, you know that we talk about that fairly often
on this program. You and I tend not to agree
on a lot of things. But when I go into
a supermarket, I refuse to use those you know, those
automatic checkout machines. I want to stand. I want to
be have my items checked out by a clerk. I
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don't want to be complicit in taking away jobs from people.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Yeah, right, because I do the same.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
It's it's no.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You and I finally have a great point of agreement.
And I'm serious when I say that. By the way,
we have a controversy here with you have Weimo cars
in San Francisco. Today they had a demonstration in Boston
with Uber and Lyft drivers who are upset about Weimo.
Weimo vehicles may be coming into Boston, and for.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Good reason they should be upset, because, if you're familiar
with there are so many things about the robot economy
that are stealing our lives.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I just want to I just want to tell you
one other irony here on that if you don't mind.
When Uber and Lyft came into Boston about ten years ago,
all of the value of the hackney licenses, the hard
work and blue collar cab drivers, the value of their
licenses dropped dramatically. So the Uber and Lyft drivers came
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in kind of hurt the taxiri tab drivers because Boston
is kind of like San Francisco, a big city but
really not a huge city. And now Waimo is coming
in and hurting the uber and lyft drivers and they're
upset about it. So complicated stuff, David, Well, and.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
For good reason.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
You're right about the.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Token.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
The medallions is what they call him out here. Same
thing here they calls from a quarter million value down
to about forty thousand, and it may not even be
worth that anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
They talked out here at six hundred thousand and six
hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Sure I can imagine. Well, the thing that bugs me
and this kind of goes to when Elon Musk got
into the treasury and got all our social security numbers,
and then the Supreme Court about a month and a
half ago said that he gets to keep our social
security numbers and that the Freedom of Information Act can
(22:00):
not be used to let us know how he's using them. Now,
if you can imagine all our data being sent over
to some robot company who could then milk us for
all its worth and then try to cheat us about
what we get back, that we no longer get fire departments,
that we no longer get street sweeping, we no longer
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get anything, and that the robot economy gets to run
away with all the money.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I think that you're concerned about things that are never
going to eventuate. I mean, you can lose thought about them,
you can have those thoughts. But I think we'll always
have a fire department. Okay, well you'd hope.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
But even out here in San Francisco, about twenty five
years ago, the mayor actually started shutting down the fire
stations and forcing the trucks to drive around endlessly. Thinking
about that on wear and tear on a vehicle, he
could sell the land of a fire yea.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
By the way, I just did a little research Elon
Musk does not have our social security numbers and a
significant legal victory a court issue in order preventing Musk
indulge from accessing, sharing, or disclosing social security information and
require them to delete any data that they have already saved.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
So anyway that doesn't match with the Supreme Court ruling
of about a month and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Well this I have this, you know what, Send me
the rulings. Okay, I'm not going to argue with you.
We've had a pleasant conversation. But send me the rulings
and I'll be happy to correct myself if those rulings
are as you represent them. David, I got to run
because they got a bunch of callers here of my friend.
I enjoyed our conversation tonight, and you're not going in
to drink tonight. Thank you, my friend. Have a great night.
(23:48):
Let me go next to Bobby. Bobby in Revere. Bobby
in Revere, and I also got Bubba in Boston. I
almost went to Bubba in Boston, but Bobby and Revere's next,
go ahead. Bobby works at Fenway. Hey Bobby, what do
you do with fenn Way?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
If I could ask, I'm a beer tender.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh so okay, what what what are you making? That's
a tough job. That's those are heavy, you know, heavy
crates to when you when you started start out. I mean,
what's the beer costs? Now? Is it ten bucks of beer?
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Let me see, No, it's about eleven or twelve, ten, eleven,
seventy five or something for the past cost Is that
just happened? They jack the prices up by two dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Okay, but but what about Red Sox games, Red Sox game.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
But I'm gonna say for a bud light, I think
it's eleven, eleven, twenty five or so.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Okay, So that's good because you probably get a pretty
good tip every time you give someone a beer.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, well, it depends. I mean not everybody tips.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, I get it. But I'm saying if if if
I buy a beer from you or you know whatever,
and I give you, you know, a ten and a five,
I'm gonna say, hey, keep a buck seventy five, okay,
because I paid at a quarter already. What do you
take out of there every night? In tips? If I
could ask as a beer.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Sales, it depends, Okay, concerts we do well. What I
take out it varies. I could give me a raise
every very good night, I could take upwards. I'd say
five hundred. That's on a great night.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Okay, hold on, hold on, let me just let's go slow.
Five hundred in cash.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
No, it's on credit CAD.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Okay, So so you get the money. So so most
people are not using cash. That's another story. I want
to get to the cash litw society. I will at
a ballpark. I'm not going to spend eleven bucks on
a credit card. I'm giving you cash, and I'm leaving
and I'm giving you tips.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
We're not allowed to take cash. You what, we're not
allowed to take care?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Oh you right now? That's a cashless ballpark. Yeah, that's
crazy too in my opinion. Okay, So, so so you
you work the entire night up through the seventh inning,
selling beers? You sell? What's the total? Is your take?
Five hundred of what?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
That's not a great night? Yeah? Like your constant, like
the constants that just passed. Yeah, that would be one
of those.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay, So so you are paid by Ara Mark for
that night?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Do you get paid?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I got it? Correct? You on the fans will tip
me Aramock pis mean minimal. If they could get me
to work for free, they would.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Okay, So so they're paying you somewhere around eighteen bucks
an hour or what?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Let me see if I take home, I mean, if
I make one hundred and twenty nine at a shift
the shift.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I'll do the math for you. I'm really good at.
So you're in an eight hour shift?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Half hours? How many seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, let's call it eight. Okay, so you're making about
fifteen dollars an hour.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Okay, that's that's the way we're works, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
That's that's that's about the one hundred and twenty nine,
maybe a little more fifteen something in an hour. Okay.
So now if so, if you work, you shift, you
get one hundred and twenty nine, and then on a
good night, you're gonna pick up another five hundred tips.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
It's on a great yeah, yeah, on a great.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Night, on an average night, overage night, average night. Not
the Yankees, but it's the Red Sox versus Minnesota. What
do you pick up?
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
No, that okay, I'll give you Like an April when
Toronto was in it was like twenty five degrees out.
I made forty dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I think I can understand that. But that's that's an anomaly.
So you've given me the high, you give me the low.
What's an average night, A night in July? You know
when it's when it's a decent night, but not the Yankees. Okay,
just give me a give me a rough up, a
couple of hundreds.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
No, I'd say I'd say about a buck, a buck
fifty to two hundred.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay, so let's call it two hundred. So two hundred plus,
so you're making three hundred. Let's say let's say you
make three hundred a night, fair enough on average? Go ahead, Yeah,
you got eighty one games. That means to me as
a part time beer vendor at Fenway Park, you make
twenty four k in the summer for the for the season,
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assuming you work all eighty one games.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Okay, I can buy that one.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, Now, you don't do this full time?
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Do you no?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What's your other job?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
I retired. I'm retired from the post office.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Good for you, Good for you? Okay, excellent, excellent. So
this is a nice little side hustle.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yeah, that's all it is, right now.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Okay, So let me ask you this, Bob, what do
you think the chances are that they're going to settle
this thing before game time tomorrow night? Or do you
think you're going to be out in the picket line.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
We're out in the picket line.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay. Look, here's here's my thought, my friend. I want
to wish you the best of luck. I hope the
Union does the right thing for you. I hope Ara
Mark does the right thing for you. And you've been
very honest with me, and you've been one of my
best callers of the week, and I mean that honestly.
You you answered my questions and you answer them honestly,
and you gave me a perspective. Now, as a beer guy,
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you get it. You have to pick your shifts right.
So I couldn't go there. Let's say I retired tomorrow
and I said, hey, Bob, I want to work at Fenway.
Not easy to get that job, right.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
You can get the job applying for it, but you
have to start at the bottom of the seniority list, okay.
And it's taking the bottom jobs like serving hot dogs
or whatnot on machines. It's just by seniority. But management
seems to be manipulating the seniority. Now that's a new
management and they're taking.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Care of who's the Who's the boogeyman? Is the boogeyman?
Aramark or or the Red Sox? Obviously you work for Aramark,
not for the Red Sox.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, it's Aro Mark.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Okay. But I appreciate your call so much. It was
an excellent call.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Hi, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's a great call. Let me tell you he was
as honest as the day is long. We're gonna keep
rolling here got to take a break, Joe, Bubba and Claren.
Is it Claris Clarice, Clarice maybe from Winthrop. We're gonna
get you guys in, I promise, and we're gonna take
this into the next hour two. So feel free, folks,
light these lines up. We're gonna learn about this. But
(30:23):
Bob couldn't have been clearer. He says they're gonna strike.
He didn't equivocate. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
By the way, real quickly, here, real quickly. David's point
from San Francisco, there is a little more substance to
what he had to say. Let me explain why I
think he was incorrect. The Supreme Court in June gave
temporarily access to the Doge Team, launched by Elon Musk,
not to Elon Musk, but to the Doze Team, access
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to information collected by the Social Curtiveman data that includes
so security numbers, medical mental health records, and family court
information and unsigned order. The Court, acting at the request
of the Trump administration, overturned actions by too lower courts
that had limited the Dose Team's access to censitive private
information The case is sent back to the Fourth Circuit
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Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia to rule the merits.
A conservative supermajority ruled in favor of dogs. The course.
Three liberals said they would have ruled the other way,
temporarily barring the dose team access to the SO Security records.
This is something that is still in adjudication. And the
way that my friend David in San Francisco tried to
(31:41):
spin it was that somehow Elon Musk walked away with
all of these records of SO Security. That is not
what the case was about. Let's go next too, Where
were going to go? I'm going to go to Bubba
in Boston. Hey, Bubba, welcome, How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (31:59):
I'm doing great?
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Da, Thanks, how are you?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I'm doing great? Your take on the the concession potential
concessionaire strike at Fenway?
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Oh, then, I used to work at Fenway and I
used to work at Gillette, and they're pretty different. Okay,
at both places. The good jobs you get tipped and
the bad jobs you get if you're jewing or whatever.
And if you're patient, you'll you'll get work. You'll you'll
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work your way up.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But so so Gillett's different than Fenway because Fenway has
eighty one baseball games a year. Jillette has, you know,
ten games including the exhibition games in August or eleven.
Maybe yeah, ten, you know, but they have about eight
or nine home games and a couple of home games.
I mean maybe on a per capita basis, which crowd
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was better the football crowd of the baseball crowd?
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Well, from my opinion, now, the football crowd was better.
Plus there's also a lot of concerts, and there's there's
other events. There's always something going on at Gillette.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, also but okay, so so real real quickly, baba,
how much would you take home on average? Roughly? There was?
Were you working full time at those two places? Were
those two jobs your full time job?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
No?
Speaker 7 (33:21):
I was retired and it was fun. But I'll tell
you this, I would I didn't really like working at
Fameway because, uh, the tips weren't shared. I worked in
one of the restaurants as a food runner and very
rarely do they have to get any money from uh,
from my co workers.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
But anyhow, yeah, are the tips shared at Gillette?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (33:43):
And I'll say where I worked in Gillette, I was
very fortunate. I worked as a food runner up in
the suites, and that's what the big money is. That's
what the big money is for for the employees that
work there. Sure, just to say one thing, when you
were talking about some good school teachers out there, there's
some really good employees at Fenway. And I know one
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in particular, and she doesn't want to go on strike
because she's a sweet attendant and she loves what she
does and she and the people that are in the
suite love her. Yeah, so you know, there's always exceptions,
but I'll pay. When I left Fenway, I'd never go
back to work there again. But at Jouette, I loved
(34:25):
working there. We didn't have a union, we were well paid.
I thought that that the organization took very good care
of the employees and that's why they didn't have a union.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Sure, well that's exactly that's always the story. If you
want to keep the union out, keep there the employees
as well.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
Yeah. Well, let me tell you. I also think that
the Red Sox are complacent if they are complicit in
this as well, because they I'm assuming I think how
they make money is they charge Aaron Mark a fee
over there.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Oh, absolutely, they a they give Aramaco contract, uh, and
and they got they got a piece of the action,
of course they do.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Well, anyways, it's just so the employees, most of them,
they're they're really I don't use a bad word, but
you know, it's not really a great situation. And a
lot of these employees they're working more than one job.
And like you said that that Gillette is not that many,
but it's a different environment. But anyhow, I just feel
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bad for for the employees, and it's just a very
very sad situation, you know. And then I feel bad
to the fans. But they have a choice. You couldn't
get me to go to friendly uh and pay for
any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
All right. I mean I'm up against my break, so
I got to let you go. But thank you very
much for your for your perspective. What's the most money
you made either at Gillette or Atway in any given year.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Well, per game at Gillette, it really wasn't hard work,
and uh, the base pay was pretty good, but the
tips were huge. We get a percentage of the tips.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, give me a number. Just looking for I know
that you're doing different things and obviously if you're up
in the sweet level. You're up there with the people
who have missed green in their pocket. So I get it.
I get it. What was what was your best year
at Gillette? And what was your best year at Fenway?
Speaker 7 (36:29):
All right, you know, Okay, if you don't want.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
To tell me, don't don't tell me, No problem, Gotta go, Bubba.
We're out of time. Thanks man, appreciate it. Okay, if
you're on the line six one seven, two, five, four
to ten thirty, we will get to Joe and Clarice
right after this. We're gonna stick with this six one seven, two,
five four to ten thirty or six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. Look, I'm not a dentist. I
(36:53):
don't pull teeth. I asked questions. I look for answers
after I asked the question two or three times. I'm
not in a pulling teeth coming Aco Nightgat
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