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July 24, 2025 41 mins
Concession workers at Fenway Park are positioning themselves to strike if an agreement on a labor contract cannot be made by Friday at noon. UNITE HERE Local 26, the union representing the workers, says park workers are “paid poverty wages”. If Fenway’s concession workers do go on strike Friday, it will be the first strike held at the ballpark since it opened 113 years ago! In addition, more than 1,000 workers would be on strike for the Red Sox’s home stand this weekend against the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Nights with Dan Ray Boston's Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, it looks like there will be a strike at
Fenway Park, or there could be a strike at Fenway
Park tomorrow night. So if you're gonna go, beware.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
That maybe you want to have a beer before the
game or hot dog before the game, because if there's
a strike, there would be probably no one selling those
items inside unless some groups cross.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
The picket line and that will be a little crazy.
But before we get to that, Tomorrow's gonna be hot,
no doubt. We've listened to all the weather forecasts. Hot, hot, Hot,
I've got a great day activity for you tomorrow. Okay,
Tomorrow is the second annual Dunk Tank and Cold Plunge fundraiser.

(00:48):
This is tomorrow, the twenty fifth of July, five months
until Christmas, from twelve until noon. If you got your
lunch out with tomorrow you're in the South Shore area,
go twelve noon until two o'clock. Excuse me, I'm going
too fast here, Thank you, Rob. It's the College Hype
Dunk Tank and Cold Plunge, second annual fundraiser for the

(01:11):
Matt Brown Foundation. It is from noon until two at
fifty four Matthewson drive in Weymouth. There's a dunk tank there.
You can pick whatever College Hype employer you want to
put in the dunk tank. I can think of a few,
but I'm not going to be there. However, Wahlberg will

(01:35):
be there, the great chef, Paul Wahlberg and others, all
of the big honchos, Jack Dougherty and Joe Foley and
everyone else from College Hype. It is a great event.
It raises funds for the Matt Brown Foundation. Matt Brown
is the young hockey player who is now thirty one
years old, who lost his ability to walk in on

(01:59):
ice acts. And he's an extraordinarily brave guy. He's wrote
he wrote a book called Line Shift, and he's a
great guy. And so if you're around Weymouth tomorrow fifty
four Matthews and drive Weymouth, you can put some people
in a dunk tank, or you can get up there

(02:19):
yourself and cool off. Simple as that. Okay, we're going
back to talk about the potential strike At Fenway Park tomorrow,
Red Sox open up a three game series with the
Dodgers at Fenway tomorrow night. A very much anticipated three
game series against the National League team that they beat
in the World Series in twenty eighteen, the team that

(02:40):
now employs Mookie Betts and some other great players, including
Shahani the first basement pitcher. All of that is great,
but there's a little bit of a ball over the
ballpark tomorrow night because the concessionaires might go on strike.

(03:00):
As a matter of fact, one of them who called us,
Bob from Rivera, said you can take it to the bank.
There'll be a strike. It's it's expensive at Fenway Park
to eat a drink, whether it's some soft drinks or beer.
It's expensive to eat hot dogs in French Fries. But
when you go to Fenway Park, it's a special it's
a special night, and most people do that. I've done that.

(03:24):
But tomorrow night, that opportunity might not be there. So
six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, six, one, seven,
nine thirty you can talk about the prices of food
and drink at Fenway, where you can talk about who
you have empathy for. Here, Ara Mark runs the concessions
at Fenway, given a contract from Fenway Park. Fenway Park

(03:47):
obviously has a piece of that action. Uh. But the
people who sell the products, the workers, UH, what's called
Local twenty six union workers announced if they do not
have a contract by noon tomorrow, thirteen hours from now,
there'll be a strike. We did invite Local twenty six
president Carlos Romeo to come on. He was not able

(04:11):
to join us tonight. He's obviously welcome to call in.
Any of the union members want to call in, they
can as well. Okay, people have been very patience here,
very patient. Clarice in Winthrop. Clarice, thank you for your patients.
You were finally rewarded. We got you on the air.
How are you.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
I'm fine? How are you?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm excellent. Thanks so much for holding on. I apologize
for the length of time. Go right ahead.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Well I work at Fenway Park.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, well, it depends. My seniority is not in question.
This is a seniority thing. I sell hot dogs or
I'll sell beer if there's an opening. Someone's absent.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Okay, okay, and let me ask you this as a worker.
I assume you're a member of the union.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Absolutely, You think you're going to go You think you're
gonna be working tomorrow night or walking a picket line.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
I don't I'll be walking I'll walk absolutely.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Do you think there's any way that they can get
this thing settled by then? Or no, by by noontime?

Speaker 4 (05:14):
No Era Mark is not cooperating at all, okay, at all.
They better even show up for half the meetings. We
have an eleven o'clock meeting, the show for twelve thirty,
you know, and they and they say, no, we can't
talk about that, we can't do that. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
So let me ask you close, if I could you
told me what you do? And again, how how many
years have you worked at Fenways to develop your seniority?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Sixteen years?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Sixteen years? Okay? Is this aside house? This is not
a full time job, I assume right.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
It's an additional income. I'm collecting Social Security.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Okay, well that's fine, So no income.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
So I want to get make clear. People keep talking
about hourly paid. You don't get an hourly pay. We
get paid a shift. Whether it's we work four hours
or we work seven hours, it's the same pay.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well really, okay does it? So let me ask you
this help me out here? The shift? I assume if
the Red Sox have a long, slow, extraorating game, when
does the shift start? Just let's assume that it's a
seven o'clock Friday night game, as it will be tomorrow night.
What time do you have to show up for the shift?

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Well, if you're working on food, you have to show
up I think it's an hour and a half before
the gates open.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, and the gates open. Gates open at well five,
say the gates open at five?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, about yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
So you have to show up at four o'clock if.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
You're on food, yes, and then you're making a hot
dog and you're preparing everything, making sure things all singed.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
And so if the game, if the game starts at
seven and you're one of the employees who has to
show up at four, the game is probably gonna take
until nine thirty, ten o'clock, even with the speed of
the games being speeded up. So you're talking about being
there from four until maybe as late as eleven o'clock

(07:16):
when you have to clean up. So that that's a
that's almost a full time shift.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yes, and it's the same pay whether it's four hours
or seven hours. Anything over seven hours you will get overtime.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Okay, So what is the what is the what's the
game is? So what's the pay for the for the
seven hour shift.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
If you're working on food, it's one hundred and twenty
nine dollars. Well, it depends on your seniority. Also, okay,
how long you've been there for nine dollars for food
and one hundred forty two for for beer.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Okay, so so you you get paid for the shift.
And again it doesn't matter. So if it's a how
how is it ever a four hour shift? I mean,
the game's gonna some times almost last that. How do
you get a four hour shift?

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Who knows? It's huge? It's never a four hour shift.
You have to work a minimum of four hours to
get your full shift pay, okay. Okay, So if you're
arrived late or I believe early, if you're not working
four hours, you don't get your ship to pay.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Okay. So at this point you're you're probably making somewhere
on average about eighteen bucks an hour. It sounds to
me like maya if I do the math, Okay, what
what does the union hope they can get to settle this?

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, we're looking for a twenty five dollars a shift
increase over the next four years.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, they want.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
To give it twenty four fifty over six years.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
So when you say when you when you say a
twenty five dollars increase, Let's assume we're starting with eighteen.
Are you saying that over the next four years you
want to get it up to twenty five or you
want to get it twenty five over what you're getting now.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Twenty five over what we're getting now.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Okay, so you're getting eighteen twenty five over that would
get you to forty three.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
No, not forty three an hour. No, it's a shift pay.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I understand that. I understand. So you okay, So let's
assume the shift. Let's deal with the shift pay. Okay,
let's assume the shift is. Keep it simple, one hundred
and thirty dollars. You'd like to see the shift be
paid one hundred and seventy five If it's forty five
over one thirty would get you to one seventy five?

(09:44):
Fair enough?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Uh, twenty five dollars. That's not one hundred and seventy five,
is it. I don't know. I'm not a math person.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well I am. So if you stick with me for
a second, what's your base? What is your BA? What's
your basic shift? What? Let's let's call you what do
you want to call your basic shift one twenty? You
pick a number. What's your basic? What is the shift?
How much do you make on your shift?

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Clarice for food, one hundred and thirty okay, one.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Hundred and thirty plus forty five is one seventy five. Okay,
So you'd let me back up.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Let me back up that. No, I have to pack
up because food and beer are totally different things. Beer
they want twenty five dollars over these one hundred and
forty two.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Well that would also twenty five dollars over one forty
would be twenty course.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Of four years, over the course of four years.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Eventually top out at one seventy five. Okay, I get it,
I get it. So those look what you're saying essentially
is that the gulf between Aarra mark and the Union
is too big. I wish you all the best tomorrow.
I hope you're not walking going to picket line. I
hope you get everything you want, everything you deserve.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Also, you had some previous on saying he makes five
hundred dollars in tips. I haven't made more than two
hundred dollars ever on a beer beer stand. I've made
as little as ninety five.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay he was. I think he was one of those
guys who carries the the the freezer or the refrigerated
beer case. You know, that's a heavy case with the
ice of the beer. That's what he told me. Glorious.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, job sure. Let me tell you
one more thing. They're hiring temporary employees that they're paying
that they're selling beer. They're paying one hundred dollars more
than what we're getting.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Now, well, I how are they going to get him
into the ballpark. You guys will have picket lines up,
I assume, right.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Oh, scabs, okay, gabs.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well, all I can tell you, Clarice, you sounding a
very nice person. I hope the next time I see
it Fenway Park, you'll slip me a beer. But only kidding.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
All I'm saying is best of luck.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Don't tell anybody anything.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
All right, Thanks, Laurie. I appreciate your call. All right,
thank you, thank you for calling. First time calling my show.
I don't think I've ever had another. Glory Yeah, well,
we're going to give you a round of applause from
my visits to your audience here. Well, thanks, Clorice, and
I'm with you. Believe me, I'm with you. I'm just
trying to make people understand what's going on. Thank you
so much. You were very helpful. Have a good one,

(12:36):
good bye bye, best of luck tomorrow, be thinking of you.
We'll take a quick break. I got one line at
six one seven, two thirty. I got two at six
one seven nine. Would you cross a picket line? That's
going to be a tough, tough call for the fans
as well. Uh, would you cross a picket line? That's

(12:57):
a question. Okay, could get ugly. We'll see coming back
on Nightside right after the quick break. This is a
quick break. Will be right back to Joe and Robert.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
It's Nightside with Boston's News Radio.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
All right. The award for waiting longest tonight is Joe
and Lynfield. Joe, I apologize, You're next on Nightside.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
Thank you, Dan, thank you for shining some light on this.
I am also a union employee at Fenway Park, and
you know, my biggest concern is I'm making less money
than I did three years ago. Why is that the

(13:40):
park went cash lists and they have instituted a lot
of AI stands and it's.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Fewer shifts, right, fewer shifts, certainly fewer spots.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
So this current administration has closed stands and there are
fewer spots, and it's and you know, it's just when
Bob was calling earlier. I think he's been there twenty
five years, so he is making good money. But for

(14:16):
every Bob, there's ten young kids that are making next
to nothing.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Okay, so Joe, you in that category. How long have
you been there?

Speaker 5 (14:25):
So I've been there sixteen years.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, that's pretty good.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
So it is, but it's also no man's land because,
as Larice mentioned, with sixteen years, you're on food sometimes
and you're on beer sometimes. And it used to be,
you know, three and four years ago, when I was
there a dozen years, you made fifty to one hundred

(14:49):
bucks on food and then when you get onto beer
you can make plus and minus two hundred. Now I'm
on beer less than I was three years ago, and
instead of making fifty to one hundred per tip, I'm
making anywhere from twenty three to forty.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
So you are either are you on a stand or
are you walking around.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
At a stand? Right, So I'm considered concessions, which is
a fixed stand A lot of times I'm out on
Yaky Way, and it's not nearly as busy as it was.
They don't have the selection they once had.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Well, it's probably busy. It's probably busy before the game,
but once the game starts Yocky Way, I'm sure a
quiet's down dramatically.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Oh right, But I'm comparing apples to apples. So four
years ago when I was on Yaky Away, I was
making seventy five bucks. Now I'm making twenty five bucks.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
And is that because they've gone cashless?

Speaker 5 (15:54):
That's yes, okay, I don't.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Like and we got to do a show sometime soon
on going towards a cash flow society. I don't like
that development. I really don't. And we'll we'll talk about
that more. But obviously that a customer, Well that's what
I'm saying. I'm a customer. I don't work. You know,
you work, okay, so it hurts you, and it also

(16:18):
is inconvenient to the customers. First of all, I go
to a ball game and I buy a bear and
a hot dog. I want to give you twenty bucks.
I want to, you know, I want to if whatever
it is, if if I got five bucks coming back,
I'm going to give you a couple of bucks and
put the others in my pocket, or I'm going to
give you the five bucks and move on. I don't
want to sit there filling out a credit card doing
a calculation.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
It used to be like that, and it was a
great job, you know. I've heard you ask some of
the other people's this your only job? No, I'm a
school teacher. Yeah, you know, so I try to do
this so I can provide for my family.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Sure, it's a great job, particularly during the summertime, you know,
when you're not working all the time.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, it was a better job. I'll tell you. It's
still has potential to be good, you know. But I
think I'm proud of the union in that the guys
like Bob and some of the we've had a few
guys there fifty years, forty years. Yeah, and they're making
the five hundred bucks. Most people aren't. The warehouse people

(17:21):
make fifteen bucks an hour. The guys that are sweating
in the dungeon making five hundred pretzels a night, they
don't get a nickel on tips.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, so there's no tips sharing, there's no none of that. No, no,
And I'm sure that if you are working up in
some of the suites and you're smart. How do they
pick the people who are the sweets? That is that
done on seniority or do they pick them on you know,
their appearance and their demeanor. If you get my drift,

(17:54):
I do.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
I do.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
There's all different divisions. There's concession, is this vending, this premium,
there's suite. This's the store people. So when you sign
up for a particular when you get hired, you get
hired into a particular division in your seniority. Let you
climb the ladder there. If I went from concession to premium,

(18:21):
I would knock myself down.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, you lose your seniority. No, I get that. But
what I'm saying is, well let me let me let
that go because we're going to get a little bit
too much into the weeds. My question, Joe, strike or
work tomorrow night.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
In your opinion, it's one strike. They made one last
bit feeble offer tonight. Yesterday they said, you know, our
union asked them for a you know something, and they
have not bargained in good faith. One of the things

(18:59):
they said today was we can't afford to recognize Juneteenth
as a holiday until the year twenty thirty, so.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Holiday today that should be. Did they recognize the fourth
of July? Do they recognize Labor Day? It's a federal holiday.
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
All right, way back in June January. Excuse me when
they just denied that. I said, we're in for the
long one.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, best of luck tomorrow, and I hope that they're
not crazy enough to bring in scab workers, because that's going.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
To be are some of the temporary workforces are already
on their website. They're paying literally double what they're paying
the union workers that have been there ten fifteen, twenty thirty.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Are they going to get these guys in the ballpark?
How are they going to get the scabs in the ballpark?

Speaker 5 (19:54):
I would imagine they would have the police and they'll
walk through. And I'm certainly advocating violence against no neither
am I.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
But but it'll it'll turn a beautiful Friday night into
a lot of at a minimum, you know, cat calls
and and some language that most families are not going
to be happy about. If you know what I'm saying,
I I.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
As clariff, said, you know, you got to get there.
I'm a stand manager, so I need to be there
at three forty, so hopefully these people are all in
the building before the general public U has to witness
the potential bad blood.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
All right, Joe, I'm sorry for the situation you find
yourself in. I wish your best of luck. I'm a
member of a union, uh and I identify with what
you guys are going through, and I I wish you
the best of luck tomorrow and I'll be thinking of you.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
I appreciate that. Dan, thank you for publicizing this my.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Place, my honest pleasure. Thank you. We'll take a break.
Here's the news. We're going to talk about this to
the end. Them up. We got only lines open right now.
There's two at six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
This needs to be discussed. We'll be back on Nightside.

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I want to shorten up these times a little bit. Robert, Robert, good, Robert,
where are you calling it from.

Speaker 8 (22:16):
Ro I'm from Cambridge, I'm a seasoned ticket holder and
I stand where all the workers at Fenway. You know,
the Red Sox organization, even though it's a contract, they
need to step up and play a major role in
the community. You know these you know they're saying the
rich get richer, the poor get pora. My big concern,
dan is is all these automated machines that are popping

(22:38):
up at Fenway. You know, when you get a beer,
you put your credit card, your license and all that.
So if Fenway allows it, is it going to be
the Garden? Next is gonna be Fox Borrow, you know.
And so that's why I'm standing with the workers. And
you know, I have a regular Kristen, she serves me beer.
Chares does the hot dogs. There's Barry who sells merchandise.

(22:59):
It's like a fam and they're all in a family.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
And you're a ticket holder, but you know, you know
the work is my name.

Speaker 8 (23:06):
Yeah, because you know I have ten Pac game series,
and so you get to know them. Other times I
go with friends and stuff. Sure, and you know them
and they're really nice. And what Ameron is doing to them?
What the Red Sox organization. They're trying to make a living.
A lot of them, I know as school teachers. I
think twenty five of the workers there are school teachers,

(23:26):
you know, trying to make a second job to supplement
their income. And it's just it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
So I ask you a question, do you have do
you have tickets for you want to?

Speaker 8 (23:35):
I I do, And so I'm urging Boston residents Massachusetts residents.
If they go on strike, I will not be crossing
the picket line. And I urge all the people not
to cross the picket line. And if you're going to
cross the picket line, don't buy a beer, don't buy
a hot dog, don't buy merchandise. We need to send
a message to people. My big question, dan is doesn't

(23:58):
the players have a UNI? I wonder what the Red
Sox players will do or the Dodgers. It will be interesting.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Well my suspicion they do. Major League Baseball has a union.
But I suspect that Major League Baseball will make sure
that they come in mostly the the Red Sox players arrive,
as you know, by their own personal vehicles. The other
teams for the most part come in by bus. So

(24:27):
the the opponent can easily come in and not worry
about crossing the picket line the Red Sox players is
kind of a difference.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Way.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
It puts everybody in an uncomfortable position to be really
honest with you.

Speaker 8 (24:39):
Okay, no, you're totally right. And it seems like we're
down this road where we're fighting with working class people.
You know, you get republic trash. We have the Fenway workers,
who's going to be next. I mean, the teachers have striked,
and I know that's, you know, a touchy situation, but
some of them did deserve to strike and others, you know, didn't.
But I mean, we're just down this.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
With the teacher strike. Just so you know, I am
a union person. I'm a member of Union since nineteen
seventy four. The teachers, they have charge of our children.
You know, it's almost like a sacred trust. In my opinion,
I don't have charge of anybody other than myself. I
want my audience. Don't get me wrong, but people can listen.

(25:22):
Not teachers are in charge of educating children. And the
Newton teacher strike, and I admit that I live in Newton,
it bothered me. I don't have kids in Newton's schools,
but it bothered me. The kids were out of school
for the entire almost the entire month of January in
twenty twenty three, and so you know, you fall behind
and all of that. But look, I admire it.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Tomorrow night, if there's going to be a strike. One,
Like I said, my neighbor is a worker. She's done
this for thirty five years. He's got it out when
she was in high school, there's going to be a strike,
and I urge people to send a message not to
cross the pickabot and go go.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
To Well, you've just sent the message to a lot
of people who are listening. I am delighted that as
many folks called in tonight at the same time. When
this strike is settled, If it is settled, the price
the one thing we can be certain of is the
price of beer and hot dogs. It will be going
up at Fenway Park.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
No, that's true.

Speaker 8 (26:18):
But the salaries of the executives of the Red Sox
organization and the amor you know them, the Era mark,
they just keep on going. You know, they're all getting
all but the common worker who's trying to make a living. Yep,
with the rise in healthcare and.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Area, Garrett Crochet is still going to make two hundred
and sixty fifty million whatever he is. I mean, they
have special skills and talents, okay, and that's why people
go and sit in the stands and watch. So we've
got to keep everything in context. Robert, I love to.

Speaker 8 (26:51):
Call it the saying a union. When we fight, we win,
and I hope the work is at Fenway win. Thank you, Dan,
I do too.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I do too, you know again, I I'm my heart
is with you guys tomorrow, with the work like you
are with the workers. Thank you very much. Okay, what
are we going to do here? I think? No, we
have some open lines now six point seven two, five, four,
ten thirty. Let's finish strong. Don't leave me in the
lurch here. Let me go next to Michael and hing them. Hey, Michael,

(27:19):
welcome next to night Side.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Hello, Hello Michael. Okay, first of all, I mean the
last caller. Okay, he's a season ticket holder. Oh, he's
not going to go to the game. Well, you always
pay for.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
It, all right, right? No, he said that he owns
a ten pack of tickets and that he has one
of those split you know packages, whether he splits it
with friends or whatever.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
That's his test that he already pay for the ticket.
So we who wins when he doesn't go? You're gonna
post us again you already pay. But my whole point is, Okay,
these joy these jobs are meant for to support a
family on all right. Now, I realize you're a union guy.

(28:02):
I was in the steelworkers union.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
I'm not.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
I'm not a union guy anymore. I didn't like the Union.
The simple fact I'm good at what I do. I'm
gonna get the money I deserve based on my skill.
My employer doesn't want to pay me that I will.
I'll go somewhere where they will. Now make a hot dog.
I mean, do you really deserve forty dollars an hour

(28:27):
to make a hot dog? Or you hand me a
bag of peanuts?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
No you don't, well I don't think that. Let's let's
be fair. They currently make around eighteen bucks an hour as.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Effect these are. These are okay, years ago, I was
a paperboy. Now those jobs are gone. There are people
adults in their thirties, forty fifties. If there's a that's
a job, I.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Get it, I get I get I just wanted to all.
I just want to try to be fair here. Okay,
I am being fair. These they've been making forty an hour,
they're making eighteen. Now, if you're a beer you've been
a Fenway park. I've been to fend Way well many times.
If if if you're carrying around that that that refrigerated

(29:13):
of ice, that that that that steel steel carton of ice,
water and cold beer, you're gonna get a lot of tips.
You get less tips.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Now, thank you very much, because you just took the
basically took the words out of my mouth. Okay, they're
gonna charge me eighteen eighteen dollars for the freaking water
down beer, and you're still gonna give them a tip, right,
have you? You've been a fend wait, bought a beer
a friendly many times. Okay, did you pay what the

(29:47):
price of the hot dog, the beer or the peanuts?

Speaker 7 (29:52):
No?

Speaker 6 (29:52):
You always give him a couple of extra bucks.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
No, whoa, whoa, whoa? What waste that? Hold on? Please
don't don't don't tell me what I did if I'm
buying a beer.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
That's what I do.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Know. What I'm saying is if I'm buying a beer
or whatever, and you gotta buy a beer, you gotta
buy a hot You can't buy him. You don't have
like the beer guy standing next to the hot dog.
You get the hot dog and you hope the beer
guy times out unless you want to leave your seats
and you want to miss a half an inning and go.
You know how it works. The bottom line is when
you're paying cash. I got some cash, I got some

(30:23):
singles here, Thank you very much. This this is there's
a tip what I'm saying is now that they go
to non cash. Most people. You go to a rest
you go to a restaurant these days, and uh, you
order out and and they want to tip for just
bringing it out of the uh, out of the kitchen.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
Look, if you go to Stop and Shop, Yeah, I
go to Stop and Shop, so I always do self checkout.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
And it's always do you want to leave a tip?

Speaker 8 (31:00):
Any other?

Speaker 6 (31:00):
I mean everywhere they want the tip, the tip. I mean,
it's like, I've.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Never seen a tip. The first of all, I don't
do self you're telling me. You're telling me that when
you go through Stop and Shop at self checkout. I
don't go through self checkout. You go through self checkout.
And let's assume your bill is thirty dollars.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
Okay, they want to see if you will give a five, ten,
fifteen percent tip and always pay.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
No.

Speaker 6 (31:26):
I mean it's like, why should I tip you?

Speaker 9 (31:28):
You should reduce her?

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yes? Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. There's a
lot of what you've said that I agree with. Okay,
but wow, I didn't realize that they were adding tips.
I can remember. I'll tell you a story. I went
to a fancy ice cream place about three months ago
with my grandson, and the ice cream cones were like,
I don't know, twelve dollars whatever they were, okay, way over.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
There wasn't in hang them because it would be eighteen.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Well it was actually it was actually in a very
fancy part of town. And I've never paid eighteen dollars
for an ice cream cone, trust me on that. But anyway,
so when I went to pay, I went to pay
with cash, and the young woman behind the counter said, oh,
we don't accept cash. I said, really, She said, you
gotta pay with a credit card. I said, well, why

(32:16):
don't you accept cash? She said, oh, if you want cash,
you can go over to the cash machine and they
have clean cash. I've never heard of the concept of
clean cash. So I paid with my credit card whatever
it was, you know, eighteen dollars, and then it said,
you know, the tip five ten, the tip on it.
I took a couple of bucks out of my pocket.

(32:37):
I said, do you mind accepting dirty cash? She accepted
the dirty cash?

Speaker 6 (32:43):
Oh, absolutely, you got it.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Hey, Michel, I love to call, but I'm way past
my break and I got it seconds. Yeah, go ahead,
tell me.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
I was a union worker. I was going to steal
workers union. I didn't need my union rep to speak
up for me. I knew what I was worth. I
went to my boss, this is what I want. If
you don't want to pay me, I'll leave. You have
to be able to speak up for yourself.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Well, there's a lot of people who you do, who
do benefit from unions. If you're such a skill steel worker.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Laziness though it it it It benefits the razy people
that once they're in the union, they can't just be fired.

Speaker 8 (33:23):
You're a do nothing Michael.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
You're a Republican, right?

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Oh? Absolutely, okay, Thanks.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I enjoyed the call. Talk to you soon. Thank you.
Have you called my show before?

Speaker 5 (33:35):
No? Oh? No, well you around the clause.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
That's the first time.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
I was listening to you when I was even when
I lived in Ocean City, Maryland. I've been listening to
you for more these days, for more than thirty years.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Will do me a favor become a regular caller. You've
been a great caller. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Sure I told you I was a Republican. You sure
you want me to call back?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yes? I want Republicans, Democrats, independence, I even want socialists
to call back so I can argue with them.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
Thanks Michael, I'd argue with them too.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Anyway, gotta go right, Thank you guys. Final break coming up.
We're heading home. We got Joe, Matt and Jim, and
if you want to give it a shot, maybe get
one more in at six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. We'll be back after this.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on BZY, Boston's
news radio.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
All right, here we go, Jim, you are next on
night Side. Love to know what you have thought of?
This is Jim. I got pack lines growing ahead.

Speaker 9 (34:35):
Buddy, and hey, thanks for taking my call. Yep, I'll
be I'll be brief as usual. Well, first of all,
this happened in Saint Louis here about twenty twenty five
years ago Lord Distributing the teamser six hundred went on
to strike against Lord Distributing, which was Danneheuser Bush distributor

(34:59):
in Saint Louis too.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
How did it work out? How did it work out?

Speaker 9 (35:03):
They busted, They busted the union, they broke their back
and uh, but but the thing about it was just
I would not cross the picket line, and I don't
see how players that was what? Uh that always baffled
me was that this players association, they present themselves as
a collective bargaining unit, but then they I mean, that's

(35:26):
what's killing unions, is that the unions across each other's
picket lines like that.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
So sure, that's exactly, that's exactly what's going on.

Speaker 9 (35:35):
I mean, whether you know, I mean, whether it's in
a bus and there's people actually standing there or not.
These guys know they're crossing and they should not do it.
Just my opinion.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I was not understand. I understand your opinion. But the
fact that the matter is the average guy on that
team bus probably making two two and a half three
million dollars and.

Speaker 9 (35:54):
Well, okay, is this about I mean, all right, okay,
well there are making that kind of money, and that's great.
I'm happy for them.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
And all I'm just saying is that they all know
that their career, if they're lucky, they're going to play
until they're thirty one and thirty two. Very few players
get past that, and some of these guys are up
for two or three seasons and that's the biggest paycheck.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
Ever, what what are they do? What they should all
be about kicking down the people who are not getting
ticks that should be kicking down to the people. Are
the people who get tips.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I'm just arguing, Jim. I'm not trying to argue with you.
I understand what you're saying. I'm just trying to explain
to you as as to what likely is going to
happen in Saint Louis. Did the players? Did the players
respect the picket line or did they cross?

Speaker 9 (36:42):
I know the end cross and it was just to
this very day. I never can accept that their actual
union members.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Don't root for the Cardinals or whatever. I go. I
want to try to sneak in here. I got to
get everybody in final commentation, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (36:59):
They should be doing something to support these you other
these other unions.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Something I will tell I will I will pass that. Well,
you've you've said it. Well, you've said it. Well, talk Jim, Thanks,
talk to you soon. Let Matt your next.

Speaker 7 (37:13):
Matt Gorette ahead, Yeah, I thought my man.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Uh, well, you know we're talking about love to get
your take on this, Matt and Brockton, go right ahead, buddy,
what's your take?

Speaker 7 (37:23):
The biggest issue is automation. They're trying to kick out
the best sellers and food sellers with automation.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Like you are you one of the guys working at Fenway?

Speaker 7 (37:34):
I am twenty one years.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Okay, everyone who's been working, who works at Fenway, I've
asked them, will there be a strike tomorrow? And they
have all said, without hesitation, there'll be a strike.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
Yeah, twelve o'clock tomorrow, at noontime tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Wow. Wow, big story. I'm glad.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
I I mean, it's crazy, it really is crazy. But
the biggest issue for me is that I don't want
a robot or a self serve or a machine to
take over my job. That's the biggest issue. I can't
understand if we the pro The problem I find is
that I don't know if we can stop it. I

(38:15):
think that the state needs to stop it through legislation,
and that's where we're That's that's the biggest sticking point.
I don't know if you agree with that.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Or I don't think. I don't think the state of
the even our democratic legislators, will get involved in that.
I just don't think. You know, look right, I mean,
you know, look, with all the AI stuff, maybe maybe
five years from now, instead of Dan Ray on nightside,
you'll have AI on night side. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
No, we don't want to get it. We don't want
to get rid of Dan Ray no way. We've been
looking for years before you was Norm Nathan and Bob Rowley,
and you're the you're the man brother.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Well, I appreciate that, Matt. Thank you so much for
your kai words and best of luck tomorrow, stay safe
and hope you win.

Speaker 7 (38:56):
Okay, Thanks, man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
You bet you'll be pull on the line. Know that
I got there back and we'll talk about it tomorrow
night if we have to, particularly if it's going on,
I promise I will, and you guys can call in
for the picure.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
I'll check in. Appreciate it, buddy.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Sounds great. Thanks, Matt, appreciate it all right. What do
we got left? Rob? Okay, Tim, you were next on
night's side. You got the final word, Tim, you lucked
out tonight A couple of people dropped off. Go ahead, Tim, thanks.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
And taking my call.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
We'll tell her sold stroke. Sure does. There wasn't any
one of the union workers who were equivocated. They they
look like they're ready to walk.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (39:40):
Anyhow, I love going a fun way and I've been
listening to the programs and say o'clock, great program tonight.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Keep up the good work.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
H Yeah, the best, Tim. I appreciate it very much.
You stay well.

Speaker 7 (39:51):
Okay, Okay, thank you Dan.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Thanks Tim. I appreciate it. All right, We're done for
the night. I want to thank everybody who called in.
We we talked about again zoning in Medford. Interesting conversation
about an effort to really radically change the residential zoning
laws in Medford, and so I think Will Snyder and

(40:14):
I also thank everyone Will called in. Pretty clear, this
is a big story. This will be a dominant story
this weekend with the Dodgers in town, the Red Sox
and Dodgers. We will see if the Aramark tries to
bring in scab workers, and I suspect they probably will,
that could potentially get ugly. It's a This is the

(40:36):
conversation that we need to have, and that is the
cashless society. If we move to a cashless society, in
my opinion, that's a mistake. I am somebody who likes
to have some cash in my pocket because I think
it's it's prudent. As George Bush would say, uh, a
cashless society is not good for any of us, because

(40:57):
all of these systems can be broken into and we
can have huge problems. We'll talk about that maybe next week.
We may talk about the concession strike tomorrow, Rob Brooks,
great job, Marie, a great job. We were done for
the night. I'm glad at the topics we picked tonight.
I think everyone who participated it was a good show Tonight.

(41:20):
I will be on Facebook in just a couple of
minutes WVZ Nightside with Dan Ray see what I look
like and feel free. In the meantime, all dogs, all cats,
all pets go to heaven. That's my pal Charlie Rays,
who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's all your
pets are past. They love you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. We'll see again
tomorrow night on Nightside. Stay cool on a hot Friday. Everybody,

(41:41):
thanks so much for listening Tonight's side
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