September 24, 2025 • 40 mins
Former Vice President Kamala Harris has a new book out on her short run for the White House. Have you read "107 Days"? Dan shared his thoughts and prediction from 2019. What did you think?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston
Speak Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thanks very much, Dan Watkins. As we proceeded to the.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Fourth and final hour tonight here on Nightside, We've had
I think some really good conversation tonight, especially in our
hour with the President of brent Eis University, Arthur Levine,
some really good questions by my audience, and again he
was an excellent guest. I also want to thank John
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Chesto of the Boston Globe, who I thought explained very
clearly this problem with the Apple Green Global Global Partners contests,
which now throws everything open to question. I'm not going
to go back to Apple Green on that, I promise you,
But I just want to say thanks to everyone who
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called in.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And also what I want to do is I with.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm going to open up a conversation here about the
book One hundred and seven Days. It is the book
that has come out this week, published by Simon and Schuster.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It is the story.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Of Kamala Harris's run from the Democratic nomination to her
loss to President Trump last November. At this time a
year ago, this time a year ago, all of us
were thinking, oh, it's going to be a tight race,
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and you know, will Donald Trump retake will he become
the first president since he was grow for Cleveland to
retake the White House after having been turned out of
the White House. And well, at this point a year ago,
Joe Biden had already withdrawn after his disastrous late June debate.
So we were looking at it. This a year ago
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was before either of the well, no, it wasn't. Actually
Donald Trump had had the fascination attempt where he was
wounded in Butler, Pennsylvania, in July July thirteenth, right around
the time that the Biden White House was realizing that
Joe Biden would not would actually speak about withdrawing, would withdraw?
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Well anyway, Harris who did not run the greatest race,
but you have to have a little empathy for her
in that the Democratic Party. Once Joe Biden said he
decided to forego the nomination, he had won the nomination.
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If you recall now, you might say, well, it wasn't
much of a fight. He was an incumbent president and
party's not going to turn him out.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
There have been.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Interesting fights between Democrats. I think of Ted Kennedy and
Jimmy Carter as being probably the toughest fight. But so
we have Kamala Harris Kamala Harris's book One hundred and
seven Days, and she has made some very interesting comments
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and quoting from the book, she quoted a conversation that
she and President Biden had on the day of the
assassination attempt, that was a Saturday, July thirteenth, twenty twenty four,
in which, according to her recollection, Biden for the first
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time wrote the possibility of him not being the nominee,
even though he was to be crowned nominee of the
Democratic Party in Chicago. And he's quoted as saying, if
for any reason I had to drop out, I would
support you. But it occurred to me. I haven't asked you,
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Biden said, according to what Harris referred to as a
clearly rehearsed speed, she recalls, she replied, again, this is
her recollection, I'm fully behind you, Joe, but if you
do decide, I would give it all I've got because
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Trump has to be beaten. Well, it was about a
week or so later that indeed he dropped out. So
in the book and I'm reading this is a piece
from NBC News, she feels that that she was loyal
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to him. She writes, my feelings for him, meaning Joe
Biden were grounded in warmth and loyalty, but they had
become complicated over time with hurt and disappointment. So she
is portraying herself as someone who has hurt and disappointed. Now,
remember Joe Biden plucked her from relative obscurity in twenty
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twenty to be his vice president candidate. She had announced
for the White House late in twenty nineteen, had a
very impressive first rally was if I recall, it was
in San Francisco, big crowd, but she dropped out before
a single vote was cast in Iowa or in New Hampshire.
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So he he elevated her to vice president. It was
Joe Biden's decision, and Joe Biden's decision all along. Harris
is upset, According to the NBC report, with Joe Biden's
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speech at the Democratic National Convention in August, he spoke
for nearly an hour to tailing the accomplishments of our administration.
It was a legacy speech for him, not an argument
for me, and he was entitled to it. But if
we waited for some personal stories about working with me
and what qualities he had seen that led him to
endorse me.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
They weren't there.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
She goes to say, of all the people in the
White House, I was in the worst position, uh, to
to comment about the dropout. I knew it would come
off as incredibly self serving.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Uh. He would see it as naked ambition. And so.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Her relationship with Joe Biden apparently went from bad to worse.
But she had she she went after a lot of
other people. She had tough words about Bill and Hillary Clinton,
James Clyburne of South Carolina, UH, Josh Shapiro, the governor
of Pennsylvania. UH. She claims that, according to the NBC report,
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that Barack Obama said to her, settle up.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Joe did what I hoped he would do, but you
have to earn it.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Michelle and I are supportive, but we're not going to
put a finger in the scale right now. Let Joe
have his moment. Think through timing. Nancy Pelosi said to her,
According to her, I'm so sad about Joe. It's so tragic.
My heart is broken. But now it's you. It's important
as a process. We have a great bench. We should
have some kind of primary not an annointment well, that
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didn't look like an endorsement.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
The Governor of Illinois, J. B.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Pritzker said, as to her, as she's quoted him and saying,
as the governor of Illinois, I'm the convention host, I
can't comment. Pritzker did endorse Harris. A day later, Gavin
Newsom was out hiking Center a text hiking will call back.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
He never did. It's it's it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Goes on and on, and then of course she talks
about Pete Buddhajet. He would have been an ideal partner
if he were a straight white man. She writes, a
Buddha Jet who's gay. But we're already asking a lot
of America to accept a woman, a black woman, a
black woman married to a Jewish man. Part of me
wanted to say, screw it, let's just do it, but
knowing what was at stake, it was too big a risk.
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Brune get Chat, according to NBC, pushed back last week
in an interview with Politico after extrapt of the book
was released, saying he was surprised by her take. She
of course ended up choosing Tim Waltz, who I think
was a disastrous choice. Uh, she she kind of I
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think diminished Mark Kelly's as a potential running mate former astronaut,
wondering if he would have a John Kerry moment. Uh,
it's it's it's amazing. Here I talked about Biden calling
her just before her debate with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
With that upsetter.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
She she talked about questions she was asked, I mean,
this is a book that I haven't read, but from
everything that I've read about the book, she recalls one
incident where this is I guess, according to NBC, every
time she was grabbing momentum, Biden would derail her campaign,
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emerging in the news with one inexplicable misstep after another.
She describes the moment that Biden briefly wore a Maga
hat in an image that then went viral. Joe was
sharing a joke with some guys in Maga hats. One
of them took his hat off and offered it to Joe.
She thought, don't take it. He took it, don't put
it on. He put it on. Kamala Harris apparently has
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written a book that portrays her as being the ultimate victim,
not only the victim of Donald Trump and the Republican Party,
but the victim of the Democrats. My question is real simple.
Do you think this book is her foundation for a
run in twenty twenty eight or do you think she's done.
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She's not going to run for governor of California. There's
only other one office that might be available, the Democratic
nomination in twenty twenty eight. After having read the reviews
of this book, the excerpts of this book, I think
she's done. I think she just wanted to settle some scores.
I'm sure none of you have read the book, but
this might be the last time we get a chance
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really to talk seriously about the former Vice president Kabla Harris.
Does she have any chance in twenty twenty eight. I'm
not talking about winning the White House, but she does
she have any chance of beingcoming the Democratic nominee six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Let's do some politics coming back after this.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So the question is is this.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Full of Vice President Harry parting shot or her opening
salvo for the twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty eight
Democratic nomination. I think she's done. For a lot of reasons.
But I think this book puts an exclamation point on
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that belief. And I did on MSNBC back in I
think it was January of twenty twenty. I was asked
to predict the Democratic ticket in twenty twenty, and it
might have been it might have been twenty nineteen. It
was we were doing a piece with MSNBC, and I
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I'm not if it's true. It's not bragging. I predicted
Joe Biden. Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris. Again, the
pronunciation is comma common law. Let's get it right, Dan,
Let's go next to Bill in Pennsylvania. BILLI, you're next
on Nightside.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Welcome.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Well they changed your name to a drama on now, Dan, I.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Guess that's a way to remember it. Yeah, there's a
lot of drama in this book, that's for sure. Well,
she she went.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
After a lot of a lot of Democrats.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, and uh, I think you got it right. Uh.
Stephen A. Smith, I saw him. I saw him the
other day. You know who he was? And oh yeah,
those kind of guys, Yeah, the kind of guys like
Steven A. Smith and and Dan Ray say it's gonna
it's gonna be the end of her. And I think
it's gonna be the end of her.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, Steven steven A and I say it a little
different ways, but he's he's a he's an entertaining guy
to watch. I when I'm in the gym and then
I have access to TV, I'm often watching steven A.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I think it's all about the twenty twenty million advanced
that the that they got to this book. That it's uh,
I don't know, you know what, anything can happen in
the Democrat Party. You remember, Okay, twice twice they pulled
the gut from underneath Bernie. All right, twice.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well that's true.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But but but again that was because Bernie was out
of step. Uh. And I think that that the former
vice president here has has personally taken uh has gotten
has gone out of step. I mean, she's gone after everybody.
The only the only one who I don't think, who
really caught a lot of flack was Tim Walls, and
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he probably was the most disastrous vice presidential candidate. Matter
of fact, you did say while she was watching I
heard in the book. I haven't read the book. I
will admit that but I've read a lot of reviews
of it that when she was watching the Tim Walls.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Uh Vance debate, Senator of Vance at the.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Time, the Republican vice presidential candidate, that Waltz and Vance
were kind of getting along and complimenting each other. No,
you go, and it was kind of a moment in
time where you said, well, these two guys at least
are gentlemen, you know, to each other. And in the books,
she said, watching that debate, she said, you know, we're
running against Vance. Don't be such a to herself. Don't
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be such a polite guy to Fance.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And you know, and with recent happenings, Dan, that Waltz guy,
now he's still governor in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Right, yeah, and I think he's running for re election
out there.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Actually, yeah, this is the guy okay that runs around
saying that our saying that our ice agents, okay, or
get stop. I've heard him three or four times saying that,
I mean this is unreal.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well, he doesn't pull punches. Let me put it like that.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, I think I think there. I think it's in
the both of them. And I think for sure that
now uh uh Drumala is going to step aside, so
the Hill so that Hillary can run again.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Nah, that's that's not that's none of the cards. Hillary
wasn't supportive. No, no, no, no no no. Hillary ran
in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Hillary Hillary in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I think it will be eighty one years old.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Let's start passing that. Let's start passing out around to
see how far it goes.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, I think if I could lead balloon. But that's
maybe some Democrats. I think some Democrats would vote for Hillary.
Absolutely I do too.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And remember, Dan, the Democrat Party is group think. It's
group think.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Well I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I mean, I don't think so, because obviously they weren't
group think when it came to Bernie Sanders. You've just
contradicted yourself in that regard anyway. Well, well, no, the
Democratic Party settles on their nominee, and Bernie didn't have
the chops to hold off everybody. Look, James Cliburn won
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the nomination for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. His endorsement
in South Carolina was that was the key, that was
the key that opened the magic door with Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
That's that's where the deal was made. You're right. That's
where the deal was made, because before that, Joe had
already said I'm gonna pick a woman, and she's gonna
be a black woman.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, well whatever I mean he staked out that position.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That sounds like that sounds like to me, Well, you
know what.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But you can look at it the other way. You
can say, hey, he was being honest.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
He followed through, it's one thing if if you're running,
and all of a sudden he said, well, I'm gonna
consider near the top of my list, and then he
you know, look at if if if Kamala Harris had said, uh,
of course, Pete Budajag would be a great vice president.
Now we know what she was thinking. She's saying, I
can't put a gay on the ticket.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
With me, and man, I can't, I can't, I can't wait.
I can't wait to James Comy's attorneys get the guys
that are representing James Comy. I can't wait till their
houses get raided, just like they did with Trump's Attorny.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Don't don't hold your breath on that one. Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I hope that is not repeated, because all that's gonna
do is complete the cycle. Look, if they got the
goods on call me, indt them. Okay, they don't have
the goods, leave them alone. That's what I think. You know,
I mean, you don't do a revenge tour and use
federal indictments. If the goods are there, indict them.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But you better have they had. What there was six
raids I think in and Biden's four years, so we
only got one. So we need five more raids.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Bill, you're uh, you're you're incorrigible. Have a great one. Bill.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I've been called worse by Hillary.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Come on, Dan, No, you're just incorrigible. I didn't call
you a deplorable Thanks very much, doctor good you two
six one seven two five thirty. Look the tit for
tat they raided us, I was, you know again, the
raid on Bolton's house. I hope you got the goods
because to go into court and try somebody, uh and
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have them come back with an acquittal. Uh doesn't help. Uh,
it just does and help. It's as simple as that.
Let me go to Frank in Boston. Get Frank in
here before they break Frank. You're next time nightsc go
right ahead.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
From a bias person, which is what I'm hearing. I
think Harris, hope Harris will run again, and.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'll bet you a lot of Frank, I'm telling you,
I think a lot of Republicans would agree with you.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Well, I hope they do, because we Harris would have
beat them. Harris would have beat him if it just
wasn't for biasness.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Okay, hold on, just so I understand this. So in
your opinion, which is a legitimate opinion for my vice president,
Harris would have defeated Ronald would have defeated Donald Trump
except for biases. Yes, and I assume you're you're talking
to me about racial biases because it was a black
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woman running against a white man.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Nope, what type.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Of bios is in general? I'm talking in general because
a lot of Latinos didn't come out, a lot a
lot of Latinos changed their votes.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So you're saying, okay, okay, So what you're saying is Latina.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
A lot of Indian people didn't come out, So it
was a it was a spread, just like a shotgun.
It was a spread all over there, and a lot
of males didn't want didn't want her in there because
she was a female. It was a biases across the board.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Okay, So let's assume let's assume you know again, I know,
I'm gonna just forsake of argument here, Frank, assume you're correct.
How does she win then in twenty twenty eight if
she is fighting all of those biases.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Twenty twenty eight, Oh, how is she going to win?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well, I think what you said, because maybe I misheard you.
I thought what you said to me was she was
going to run in twenty twenty eight. I may have
misunderstood you.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
No, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay, So my question to you, then, Frank, just stay
with me here. I'm not going to go fast. You've
identified a series of biases not only angst Latinos.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
But across the board, across the board.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Okay, Frank, just let me ask the question, and then
I'm gonna listen very carefully for your answer. Okay, if
she lost in twenty twenty four against Donald Trump because
of the biases of these various groups that should have,
in your opinion, supported her, how does she turn that
around in twenty.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Twenty eight, Since people will finally come to their senses
and realize that we have put ourselves in a situation
where we're going to get screwed by the very person
who's supposed to be helping us. Who, regardless of who
he who, regardless of our persuasion, regardless of our political party,
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regardless of our skin color, regardless of anything, this man
is going to school us. And he's already schooling us.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, again, that's your opinion, and you have every right
to that opinion, Frank. And when you say when you
say us, I don't know if you're talking.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
About everybody, how can I be this determine any other
way us US?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Well, I mean there's three hundred and thirty million Americans
in this clust you know what, Frank, You know what.
I'm having a tough time just having a conversation with
you here, man.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Trying my best. I'm really trying my best here to
understand what you're saying. I'm not disagreeing with you. I
help you understand that. I'm simply asking you questions. I
don't know who US is if you're talking about every
American or every American of voting age, there's one hundred
and seventy million of us who vote for president. Because
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you've got to eliminate kids and people who are underage.
So you think, if you that's what you think, then
then anybody would would would win for the Democrats. Never
mind Kamala Harris, is is she the best candidate for
the party in twenty twenty eight in your opinion?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Yes, okay? And and and and when you say and
when you say everybody's going to vote for Democrats, if
all of us are being screwed, then I think that
I'm hoping that's what will happen in the midterm, that
there will be a wave of Democrats because this guy,
he's screwing the young people. He's screwing the children, he's
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screwing the president women, he's screwing the Skays, he's screwing
the blacks, he's screwing the whites.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Wait, wait, waste.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, Okay, So this guy is doing everything I don't
think if you're if you're right, Frank, if you're right,
there'll never be another Republican elected president in the history
of the country.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
This is going to be key, wonderful for the Democrats.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
He's cutting out money to SNAP he's cutting out money
to Medicaid, he's cutting out money to Social Security, He's
cutting back the I R S. We're supposed to be
bringing us in money, so now we're gonna end up
getting less money.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
He's cutting everybody.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
First of all, he's not by the way, by the way, Frank,
just for your information, he's not cutting out SO security. Okay,
just just you could put that one away because someone's
gonna think you're so scurty check. If you're getting a
so scurity check is not going to be reduced. I
get a so scurity check because I worked and earned it.
My so scurty check is going to be reduced. I
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would be very.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Upset if I was going to be reduced.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay, might be retirement age for young people who are
living longer than people have traditionally, could their retirement years
be pushed out a little bit? Yeah, that is not
reducing the payment so security, Frank. I love your calls, man,
I just wish we couldn't.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
He just he just said just one of all the
things that I said, all those things I said, all
you could cut.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
All you can say is no, no one, I'm saying
to you what you don't You're not listening to what
I said. I corrected you on one that was as
Will there be Medicaid cuts. Yes, yes, there are people
on Medicaid who don't deserve to be on medicaid and
people on Medicaid who don't deserve to be on Medicaid.
There is fraud on medicaid. Frank, uh. That pool of
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money should be available for people who need it. Come on, look, Frank.
I love your calls, man, but I took you too early.
I'm way into my newscast, so I gotta I gotta
let you go. We did six and a half minutes.
You're welcome to call this program anytime. I just want
to have a conversation with you so I better understand
you and you better understand me.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And that's the truth.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Okay, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Thank you, Frank, appreciate your call. We'll be back on
Night's Side right after this. I got one line at
six one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty. I
got a couple at six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. Now I have none at two, five, four
to ten thirty. Lines are full six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. That will get you through.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Have at it. Let's go.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I mentioned last hour that in not last hour, last
half hour that.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
In February of twenty nineteen, I was on MSNBC. I
was in a conversation with one of the MSNBC anchors
and a talk show host, a gentleman from Los Angeles,
and I was asked about who would likely be the
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Democratic ticket in twenty twenty. Now that's a year and
a half, nearly two years before the election, and Rob
has found this reaction I had, and it almost as
if I'm prescient. But Rob, if you would play that,
this is Dan Ray on February first, twenty nineteen, predicting
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the Democratic ticket of twenty twenty.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
It seems Dan, the president does agree with you on
Kamala Harris. He said, I would say the best opening
so far would be Kamala. He actually pronounced her name Camilla,
by the way, so he made them the same mistake
I did about you, Dan Harris. A better crowd, he said,
better crowd, better enthusiasm. Some of the others were very flat.
What do you make, Dan, of the President's enthusiasm for
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Kamala Harris?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Sure, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I think he's being very respectful, as he should be.
I think She's a compelling figure. She comes from a
big state. Donald Trump would love to run against Elizabeth Warren.
His nightmare ticket, I think at this point would be
Joe Biden with Kamala Harris as a vice presidential candidate.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It was his nightmare.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Ticket because that was the ticket that ran, and that
was the ticket that beat Donald Trump in twenty twenty.
I know that some of you in the audience will
disagree with me on that, but that was my prediction
and it was his nightmare ticket. And I was asked
in October of twenty twenty, when speaking to the Worcester
Chamber of Commerce, who would win the race in twenty twenty,
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and I predicted Joe Biden. Oh, let me go to
Bob in California. Hey, Bob, welcome back. You know Senator
Harris pretty well out there. Do you think she's got
a shot in twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Dan, Let me answer it this way, and I think
obviously you know, but the collars should know too. I'm
originally from Boston, yep, Okay, So my answer would be
that yes, Kamala has a chance, absolutely, and she has
a chance about equal to the chance of the New
England Patriots. Winning the super Bowl this year.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
That's faint praise. How are you tonight, Bob.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I'm doing okay, Dan, thank you. And the other thing,
I'm scratching my head, like hearing you talk about this
book and thinking what other than her trying to make money. Okay,
that's fine, but nobody's going to read that book and say, gee,
she's playing the victim. It's everybody's fault but hers that
she didn't win. So I guess I need to vote
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for her next time because everybody's fault with hers. You know,
I don't. I'm stressing my head. Okay, I mean, look,
it's on her. She needs to look in the mirror
like any candidate. Okay, she failed, period, she failed. She
was not relatable to mainstream Americans. Okay, Donald Trump say what,
(28:30):
you will go to her bad and you know I'm
in the middle. But Donald Trump is a hell of
a salesman and he said what a lot of people
wanted to hear. And he still says that she has
no idea and the Democrats don't need it. They're more
focused on unisex bathrooms and transgender rights than they are
concerned for working Americans. Their priorities are so off target
(28:55):
that they're going to blow another election if they're not careful.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, I think they are captured by the.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Progressives in the party in that if they speak out,
as Member Seth Moulten talked about, uh not looking forward
to having he has two young daughters, UH playing in
high school against transgender males and and he was he
(29:27):
was excoriated by the left of the Democratic Party. So
it's almost like there's a litmus test that you have
to pass to become the Democratic nominee. And once you
have pledged to that litmus test, you're almost unelectable in
a in a general election.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Well, for those of you that listen to your show
that there are millions of people that do, I think
that they would agree with me. And you look at
you summed it up very well in my opinion, months ago,
when you're talking about the left wing wacker doodles in
the right wing wacker doodles, the wacker doodles on both sides,
(30:06):
they don't I mean the wacker doodles on the right. Basically,
they now are steamrolling anybody that criticizes Kirk gets fired. Okay,
when did where did censorship come in all of a
sudden into this country. And that's the right wing wacker doodles.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Well, they weren't.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
They weren't necessarily criticizing Kirk, per se Charlie Kirk. But
they were criticizing Kimmel's comments about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Well, no, no, there's a lot of people that have
been fired because they've made critical comments about Kirk.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh, well, you're talking about you. There are teachers in schools, yes,
who who posted things about Charlie Kirk. I never met
Charlie Kirk. I don't know Charlie Kirk. You know, I've
learned a lot about him in the last two weeks,
(30:59):
you know, sadly obviously that we that we now know about.
But I think that there have been some things that
you'd never say about someone who would they die. I mean,
it's just it's common sense, it's humanity, it's it's just
human compassion that I don't care who the person is
who dies, you don't celebrate, particularly the assassination of someone.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
I mean, well, well again back to ye. And I'm
sorry I took I took the show off topic for me,
No problem, no problem again. Yes, the left and right
wing whacker doodles in her And again, anybody listening, like,
I wonder who is going to buy that book? Who
would buy it? Who would bother reading it? She's Yesterday's news.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I think I think she had a twenty million dollar advance,
so that there better be a lot of people buying
that book.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
In my opinion, I gonna I was thinking maybe one
hundred people will buy it. Okay, why did anybody buy it?
And she's Yesterday's news And I'm sorry she is a
loser with a capital L courage.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
All right, Well we can always wait for the Tim
Walls book.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah there, you know anything like that. And you people
are saying, we all we know that any loser in
anything in life, when people played the victim, they're losers.
Take responsibility for your actions.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, period. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I mean if if she had said, hey, look, I
regret that when I was asked is there anything I
would disagree and about Joe Biden and the administration, and
I said there's nothing I can think of.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Not really that I.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Was that was a mistake, you know, I mean, just
there are ways to handle it and survive, and then
there are ways to answer questions and and.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And leave with a scorched earth. Party. It's like, well,
if you're at a party and you get into an
argument with.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
The host and you you you make a scene going
out the door, and the guy asks you to leave whatever,
and and you decide to insult everybody in the door,
anybody in the room going out the door, You're not
likely going to be invited to that same party again.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I guess that is so very well put. Very thanks, buddy.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I want to ask you very very quickly, right, okay, quickly, yep,
because you were so pressing in your prediction in twenty nineteen.
Ye please, what's that term? Accommodate me and everybody listening
if you have to say, right now, this minute, who
do you think is gonna win the Super Bowl this year?
What team would you name?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm gonna go with a sentimental pick of the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Okay, there it is, everybody, Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
We'll see if I'm right.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Rob record, Rob record this conversation. Jen Ray Buffalo Bills
Temper twenty trumper twenty fourth al the Miami Game.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
A tough time last week, Thanks, Bob, talk to you soon.
Good Nay.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
We're going to a little farfield here, but that's okay.
Come on back six one, seven, two, four, ten thirty
six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Uh, let's
let's have some fun, Okay. If you want to talk
about Kamala Harris's book, if anyone out there has bought
the book, I want to hear from you. Uh, and
give me a give me a call, simple as that.
(34:09):
Give me a call six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty or six seven, coming right back on Nightside.
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Let's keep Rowlan here. Going to go to Jim down
and rain him on the South coast. Jim, you were
next on nights. I appreciate you call it in.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
Go ahead, Jim, Well, Dan, I was when I hear
about Kamala Harris and whether or not she's going to
be a candidate in the next presidential election, what the
effect is of her book to Two thoughts come to
my mind. First of all, the ghost of Richard Nixon
nineteen sixty two hangs heavy over our political memories, but
(34:51):
faded that Kamala Harris. Richard Nixon lost an election that
most people thought he should have won, and two years
later was seduced by people who were trying to promote
him for their own purposes into running for California governor
of California, I think, and he was humiliated in that
and famously said, you won't have Dick Nixon to kick around.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Brown, the father of Jerry Brown, beat Nixon in sixty two.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
You're right, and as such, I think Kamala Harris says,
you know they're trying to get me. I was defeated
for office in my town after twenty six years, and
subsequently in the years of follow people said you should
run again, you should run again, and they realized I said,
but if I ran again and lost, I'd be finished
because then two time losers. So I think I think
(35:40):
Harris has has said, well, no win. If I run
for government California and I lose and I'm done. So
I think she might very well be positioning herself for
a run in the next president's ruction. Now that said
the thought that the other thought that occurred to me
in reading the reaction to her book, and I haven't leather,
(36:00):
but I've seen the excerpts I think as you have,
where she's critical of the people she didn't pick for
Vice president. Walls got it. Ultimately, and I don't think
he was that disastrous a choice. But the point is
is that I.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Think I think, yeah, I disagree with you that I
think Tim Walls was Shapiro would have been a really
I thought significant addition to the ticket. But that's my opinion,
and you know, I don't expect you to.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Agree with him.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
The other point I want to make is that the
Democratic Party has become the Republican Party has become very
much the same in one sense, but the Democratic Party
got where it is now basically sooner because that book
and the reaction to it shows that the Democratic Party
has become a bunch of people or so in love
(36:50):
with themselves that they can't if anybody says anything negative
about them, then then they're just terrible. Oh my god.
And there's it, and it's these people can't admit that
they might have faults and flaws. And the criticisms that
I read about of the people she didn't pick, I
thought they were very valid and very truth based on
(37:10):
what I knew. And as such, I said, the Democratic
Party has become the whole wol DEEI thing and there's
all about you know who you are on paper and
Kamala Harris Pool was my point in that she was
the first affirmative Action vice president.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I don't know, maybe, I don't know. I think she
was an asset to Biden in twenty twenty, and I
think that Biden, being an older white male, had a
younger female woman. And I think that I think James
Cliburn had a role in that decision as well.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Jim. I going to try to sneak one more in here,
but I thank you.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
For your call, and.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Please keep calling the program. Okay, thank you. Cant let
me go to Pete in South Carolina. Pete, you're gonna
wrap it up first, I think, go ahead, Pete.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Okay, Dan, good to talk to you right back. As
I think I agree with you. I think that she
is uh, just putting out old hash to just make
her feel good. I don't think she's got a shot. Uh.
And plus at that time, you got aoc is eligible
(38:30):
age wise yeah, uh and some of the other squads.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
But well, yeah, you have the governor, you know, Gretchen
Whitmer of Michigan, who's who's serious that there could be
others who emerged between now and now and then you
know the the the poster for for CNN, a guy
named Harry Enton. He's their so called poster and data analyst.
(38:55):
He says that her Harris's favorability polls showed the Calm
Harris Kamala Harris is much lower than she was just
a year ago, he quoted. He's quoted as saying she's
swimming with the fishes. Not a good place to be.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, especially if you're an Italian.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Uh, good lie. I think.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That jds and is going to give anybody a run
for their money.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I think I think up until now Vances has grown
into that job. I think it's going to be dependent.
I mean, if if the Trump policies work and everybody's
feeling pretty good, the Republicans can probably win in twenty
twenty eight. If the economy goes south for whatever reason, uh,
(39:46):
it'll be an albatross around Vancers or whoever's the nominees,
then that can.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Advance for people of some sort.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Absolutely, Hey, Peter, I gotta let you run because I'm
flat out of time.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Thank you was always good to know you listen about that.
Thank thank you calling a night. Good night for the
callers in the line you called late. I'm done for
the night. Rob Brooks, thank you very much, Maria, thank
you very much. To the callers and to the listeners,
thank you very much. We're going to do a quick
nightside postgame. All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven.
That's what my pal Charlie Rays who passed fifteen years ago.
(40:17):
That's where all your pets are who have passed. They
loved you and you love them. I do believe you'll
see them again. Of a great Thursday, everybody, see again
tomorrow night on Nightside.
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thanks very much, Dan Watkins. As we proceeded to the.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Fourth and final hour tonight here on Nightside, We've had
I think some really good conversation tonight, especially in our
hour with the President of brent Eis University, Arthur Levine,
some really good questions by my audience, and again he
was an excellent guest. I also want to thank John
(00:29):
Chesto of the Boston Globe, who I thought explained very
clearly this problem with the Apple Green Global Global Partners contests,
which now throws everything open to question. I'm not going
to go back to Apple Green on that, I promise you,
But I just want to say thanks to everyone who
(00:50):
called in.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And also what I want to do is I with.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm going to open up a conversation here about the
book One hundred and seven Days. It is the book
that has come out this week, published by Simon and Schuster.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It is the story.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Of Kamala Harris's run from the Democratic nomination to her
loss to President Trump last November. At this time a
year ago, this time a year ago, all of us
were thinking, oh, it's going to be a tight race,
(01:30):
and you know, will Donald Trump retake will he become
the first president since he was grow for Cleveland to
retake the White House after having been turned out of
the White House. And well, at this point a year ago,
Joe Biden had already withdrawn after his disastrous late June debate.
So we were looking at it. This a year ago
(01:53):
was before either of the well, no, it wasn't. Actually
Donald Trump had had the fascination attempt where he was
wounded in Butler, Pennsylvania, in July July thirteenth, right around
the time that the Biden White House was realizing that
Joe Biden would not would actually speak about withdrawing, would withdraw?
(02:14):
Well anyway, Harris who did not run the greatest race,
but you have to have a little empathy for her
in that the Democratic Party. Once Joe Biden said he
decided to forego the nomination, he had won the nomination.
(02:36):
If you recall now, you might say, well, it wasn't
much of a fight. He was an incumbent president and
party's not going to turn him out.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
There have been.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Interesting fights between Democrats. I think of Ted Kennedy and
Jimmy Carter as being probably the toughest fight. But so
we have Kamala Harris Kamala Harris's book One hundred and
seven Days, and she has made some very interesting comments
(03:07):
and quoting from the book, she quoted a conversation that
she and President Biden had on the day of the
assassination attempt, that was a Saturday, July thirteenth, twenty twenty four,
in which, according to her recollection, Biden for the first
(03:31):
time wrote the possibility of him not being the nominee,
even though he was to be crowned nominee of the
Democratic Party in Chicago. And he's quoted as saying, if
for any reason I had to drop out, I would
support you. But it occurred to me. I haven't asked you,
(03:53):
Biden said, according to what Harris referred to as a
clearly rehearsed speed, she recalls, she replied, again, this is
her recollection, I'm fully behind you, Joe, but if you
do decide, I would give it all I've got because
(04:14):
Trump has to be beaten. Well, it was about a
week or so later that indeed he dropped out. So
in the book and I'm reading this is a piece
from NBC News, she feels that that she was loyal
(04:38):
to him. She writes, my feelings for him, meaning Joe
Biden were grounded in warmth and loyalty, but they had
become complicated over time with hurt and disappointment. So she
is portraying herself as someone who has hurt and disappointed. Now,
remember Joe Biden plucked her from relative obscurity in twenty
(04:58):
twenty to be his vice president candidate. She had announced
for the White House late in twenty nineteen, had a
very impressive first rally was if I recall, it was
in San Francisco, big crowd, but she dropped out before
a single vote was cast in Iowa or in New Hampshire.
(05:19):
So he he elevated her to vice president. It was
Joe Biden's decision, and Joe Biden's decision all along. Harris
is upset, According to the NBC report, with Joe Biden's
(05:40):
speech at the Democratic National Convention in August, he spoke
for nearly an hour to tailing the accomplishments of our administration.
It was a legacy speech for him, not an argument
for me, and he was entitled to it. But if
we waited for some personal stories about working with me
and what qualities he had seen that led him to
endorse me.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
They weren't there.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
She goes to say, of all the people in the
White House, I was in the worst position, uh, to
to comment about the dropout. I knew it would come
off as incredibly self serving.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Uh. He would see it as naked ambition. And so.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Her relationship with Joe Biden apparently went from bad to worse.
But she had she she went after a lot of
other people. She had tough words about Bill and Hillary Clinton,
James Clyburne of South Carolina, UH, Josh Shapiro, the governor
of Pennsylvania. UH. She claims that, according to the NBC report,
(06:51):
that Barack Obama said to her, settle up.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Joe did what I hoped he would do, but you
have to earn it.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Michelle and I are supportive, but we're not going to
put a finger in the scale right now. Let Joe
have his moment. Think through timing. Nancy Pelosi said to her,
According to her, I'm so sad about Joe. It's so tragic.
My heart is broken. But now it's you. It's important
as a process. We have a great bench. We should
have some kind of primary not an annointment well, that
(07:20):
didn't look like an endorsement.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
The Governor of Illinois, J. B.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Pritzker said, as to her, as she's quoted him and saying,
as the governor of Illinois, I'm the convention host, I
can't comment. Pritzker did endorse Harris. A day later, Gavin
Newsom was out hiking Center a text hiking will call back.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
He never did. It's it's it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Goes on and on, and then of course she talks
about Pete Buddhajet. He would have been an ideal partner
if he were a straight white man. She writes, a
Buddha Jet who's gay. But we're already asking a lot
of America to accept a woman, a black woman, a
black woman married to a Jewish man. Part of me
wanted to say, screw it, let's just do it, but
knowing what was at stake, it was too big a risk.
(08:05):
Brune get Chat, according to NBC, pushed back last week
in an interview with Politico after extrapt of the book
was released, saying he was surprised by her take. She
of course ended up choosing Tim Waltz, who I think
was a disastrous choice. Uh, she she kind of I
(08:28):
think diminished Mark Kelly's as a potential running mate former astronaut,
wondering if he would have a John Kerry moment. Uh,
it's it's it's amazing. Here I talked about Biden calling
her just before her debate with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
With that upsetter.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
She she talked about questions she was asked, I mean,
this is a book that I haven't read, but from
everything that I've read about the book, she recalls one
incident where this is I guess, according to NBC, every
time she was grabbing momentum, Biden would derail her campaign,
(09:16):
emerging in the news with one inexplicable misstep after another.
She describes the moment that Biden briefly wore a Maga
hat in an image that then went viral. Joe was
sharing a joke with some guys in Maga hats. One
of them took his hat off and offered it to Joe.
She thought, don't take it. He took it, don't put
it on. He put it on. Kamala Harris apparently has
(09:44):
written a book that portrays her as being the ultimate victim,
not only the victim of Donald Trump and the Republican Party,
but the victim of the Democrats. My question is real simple.
Do you think this book is her foundation for a
run in twenty twenty eight or do you think she's done.
(10:06):
She's not going to run for governor of California. There's
only other one office that might be available, the Democratic
nomination in twenty twenty eight. After having read the reviews
of this book, the excerpts of this book, I think
she's done. I think she just wanted to settle some scores.
I'm sure none of you have read the book, but
this might be the last time we get a chance
(10:26):
really to talk seriously about the former Vice president Kabla Harris.
Does she have any chance in twenty twenty eight. I'm
not talking about winning the White House, but she does
she have any chance of beingcoming the Democratic nominee six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Let's do some politics coming back after this.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So the question is is this.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Full of Vice President Harry parting shot or her opening
salvo for the twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty eight
Democratic nomination. I think she's done. For a lot of reasons.
But I think this book puts an exclamation point on
(11:18):
that belief. And I did on MSNBC back in I
think it was January of twenty twenty. I was asked
to predict the Democratic ticket in twenty twenty, and it
might have been it might have been twenty nineteen. It
was we were doing a piece with MSNBC, and I
(11:42):
I'm not if it's true. It's not bragging. I predicted
Joe Biden. Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris. Again, the
pronunciation is comma common law. Let's get it right, Dan,
Let's go next to Bill in Pennsylvania. BILLI, you're next
on Nightside.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Welcome.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Well they changed your name to a drama on now, Dan, I.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Guess that's a way to remember it. Yeah, there's a
lot of drama in this book, that's for sure. Well,
she she went.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
After a lot of a lot of Democrats.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, and uh, I think you got it right. Uh.
Stephen A. Smith, I saw him. I saw him the
other day. You know who he was? And oh yeah,
those kind of guys, Yeah, the kind of guys like
Steven A. Smith and and Dan Ray say it's gonna
it's gonna be the end of her. And I think
it's gonna be the end of her.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, Steven steven A and I say it a little
different ways, but he's he's a he's an entertaining guy
to watch. I when I'm in the gym and then
I have access to TV, I'm often watching steven A.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I think it's all about the twenty twenty million advanced
that the that they got to this book. That it's uh,
I don't know, you know what, anything can happen in
the Democrat Party. You remember, Okay, twice twice they pulled
the gut from underneath Bernie. All right, twice.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well that's true.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But but but again that was because Bernie was out
of step. Uh. And I think that that the former
vice president here has has personally taken uh has gotten
has gone out of step. I mean, she's gone after everybody.
The only the only one who I don't think, who
really caught a lot of flack was Tim Walls, and
(13:26):
he probably was the most disastrous vice presidential candidate. Matter
of fact, you did say while she was watching I
heard in the book. I haven't read the book. I
will admit that but I've read a lot of reviews
of it that when she was watching the Tim Walls.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Uh Vance debate, Senator of Vance at the.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Time, the Republican vice presidential candidate, that Waltz and Vance
were kind of getting along and complimenting each other. No,
you go, and it was kind of a moment in
time where you said, well, these two guys at least
are gentlemen, you know, to each other. And in the books,
she said, watching that debate, she said, you know, we're
running against Vance. Don't be such a to herself. Don't
(14:09):
be such a polite guy to Fance.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And you know, and with recent happenings, Dan, that Waltz guy,
now he's still governor in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Right, yeah, and I think he's running for re election
out there.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Actually, yeah, this is the guy okay that runs around
saying that our saying that our ice agents, okay, or
get stop. I've heard him three or four times saying that,
I mean this is unreal.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well, he doesn't pull punches. Let me put it like that.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, I think I think there. I think it's in
the both of them. And I think for sure that
now uh uh Drumala is going to step aside, so
the Hill so that Hillary can run again.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Nah, that's that's not that's none of the cards. Hillary
wasn't supportive. No, no, no, no no no. Hillary ran
in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Hillary Hillary in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I think it will be eighty one years old.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Let's start passing that. Let's start passing out around to
see how far it goes.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, I think if I could lead balloon. But that's
maybe some Democrats. I think some Democrats would vote for Hillary.
Absolutely I do too.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And remember, Dan, the Democrat Party is group think. It's
group think.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Well I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I mean, I don't think so, because obviously they weren't
group think when it came to Bernie Sanders. You've just
contradicted yourself in that regard anyway. Well, well, no, the
Democratic Party settles on their nominee, and Bernie didn't have
the chops to hold off everybody. Look, James Cliburn won
(15:50):
the nomination for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. His endorsement
in South Carolina was that was the key, that was
the key that opened the magic door with Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
That's that's where the deal was made. You're right. That's
where the deal was made, because before that, Joe had
already said I'm gonna pick a woman, and she's gonna
be a black woman.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, well whatever I mean he staked out that position.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That sounds like that sounds like to me, Well, you
know what.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But you can look at it the other way. You
can say, hey, he was being honest.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
He followed through, it's one thing if if you're running,
and all of a sudden he said, well, I'm gonna
consider near the top of my list, and then he
you know, look at if if if Kamala Harris had said, uh,
of course, Pete Budajag would be a great vice president.
Now we know what she was thinking. She's saying, I
can't put a gay on the ticket.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
With me, and man, I can't, I can't, I can't wait.
I can't wait to James Comy's attorneys get the guys
that are representing James Comy. I can't wait till their
houses get raided, just like they did with Trump's Attorny.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Don't don't hold your breath on that one. Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I hope that is not repeated, because all that's gonna
do is complete the cycle. Look, if they got the
goods on call me, indt them. Okay, they don't have
the goods, leave them alone. That's what I think. You know,
I mean, you don't do a revenge tour and use
federal indictments. If the goods are there, indict them.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But you better have they had. What there was six
raids I think in and Biden's four years, so we
only got one. So we need five more raids.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Bill, you're uh, you're you're incorrigible. Have a great one. Bill.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I've been called worse by Hillary.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Come on, Dan, No, you're just incorrigible. I didn't call
you a deplorable Thanks very much, doctor good you two
six one seven two five thirty. Look the tit for
tat they raided us, I was, you know again, the
raid on Bolton's house. I hope you got the goods
because to go into court and try somebody, uh and
(17:54):
have them come back with an acquittal. Uh doesn't help. Uh,
it just does and help. It's as simple as that.
Let me go to Frank in Boston. Get Frank in
here before they break Frank. You're next time nightsc go
right ahead.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
From a bias person, which is what I'm hearing. I
think Harris, hope Harris will run again, and.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'll bet you a lot of Frank, I'm telling you,
I think a lot of Republicans would agree with you.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Well, I hope they do, because we Harris would have
beat them. Harris would have beat him if it just
wasn't for biasness.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Okay, hold on, just so I understand this. So in
your opinion, which is a legitimate opinion for my vice president,
Harris would have defeated Ronald would have defeated Donald Trump
except for biases. Yes, and I assume you're you're talking
to me about racial biases because it was a black
(18:57):
woman running against a white man.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Nope, what type.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Of bios is in general? I'm talking in general because
a lot of Latinos didn't come out, a lot a
lot of Latinos changed their votes.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So you're saying, okay, okay, So what you're saying is Latina.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
A lot of Indian people didn't come out, So it
was a it was a spread, just like a shotgun.
It was a spread all over there, and a lot
of males didn't want didn't want her in there because
she was a female. It was a biases across the board.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Okay, So let's assume let's assume you know again, I know,
I'm gonna just forsake of argument here, Frank, assume you're correct.
How does she win then in twenty twenty eight if
she is fighting all of those biases.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Twenty twenty eight, Oh, how is she going to win?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well, I think what you said, because maybe I misheard you.
I thought what you said to me was she was
going to run in twenty twenty eight. I may have
misunderstood you.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
No, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay, So my question to you, then, Frank, just stay
with me here. I'm not going to go fast. You've
identified a series of biases not only angst Latinos.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
But across the board, across the board.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Okay, Frank, just let me ask the question, and then
I'm gonna listen very carefully for your answer. Okay, if
she lost in twenty twenty four against Donald Trump because
of the biases of these various groups that should have,
in your opinion, supported her, how does she turn that
around in twenty.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Twenty eight, Since people will finally come to their senses
and realize that we have put ourselves in a situation
where we're going to get screwed by the very person
who's supposed to be helping us. Who, regardless of who
he who, regardless of our persuasion, regardless of our political party,
(20:57):
regardless of our skin color, regardless of anything, this man
is going to school us. And he's already schooling us.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, again, that's your opinion, and you have every right
to that opinion, Frank. And when you say when you
say us, I don't know if you're talking.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
About everybody, how can I be this determine any other
way us US?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Well, I mean there's three hundred and thirty million Americans
in this clust you know what, Frank, You know what.
I'm having a tough time just having a conversation with
you here, man.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Trying my best. I'm really trying my best here to
understand what you're saying. I'm not disagreeing with you. I
help you understand that. I'm simply asking you questions. I
don't know who US is if you're talking about every
American or every American of voting age, there's one hundred
and seventy million of us who vote for president. Because
(21:53):
you've got to eliminate kids and people who are underage.
So you think, if you that's what you think, then
then anybody would would would win for the Democrats. Never
mind Kamala Harris, is is she the best candidate for
the party in twenty twenty eight in your opinion?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Yes, okay? And and and and when you say and
when you say everybody's going to vote for Democrats, if
all of us are being screwed, then I think that
I'm hoping that's what will happen in the midterm, that
there will be a wave of Democrats because this guy,
he's screwing the young people. He's screwing the children, he's
(22:36):
screwing the president women, he's screwing the Skays, he's screwing
the blacks, he's screwing the whites.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Wait, wait, waste.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, Okay, So this guy is doing everything I don't
think if you're if you're right, Frank, if you're right,
there'll never be another Republican elected president in the history
of the country.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
This is going to be key, wonderful for the Democrats.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
He's cutting out money to SNAP he's cutting out money
to Medicaid, he's cutting out money to Social Security, He's
cutting back the I R S. We're supposed to be
bringing us in money, so now we're gonna end up
getting less money.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
He's cutting everybody.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
First of all, he's not by the way, by the way, Frank,
just for your information, he's not cutting out SO security. Okay,
just just you could put that one away because someone's
gonna think you're so scurty check. If you're getting a
so scurity check is not going to be reduced. I
get a so scurity check because I worked and earned it.
My so scurty check is going to be reduced. I
(23:33):
would be very.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Upset if I was going to be reduced.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay, might be retirement age for young people who are
living longer than people have traditionally, could their retirement years
be pushed out a little bit? Yeah, that is not
reducing the payment so security, Frank. I love your calls, man,
I just wish we couldn't.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
He just he just said just one of all the
things that I said, all those things I said, all
you could cut.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
All you can say is no, no one, I'm saying
to you what you don't You're not listening to what
I said. I corrected you on one that was as
Will there be Medicaid cuts. Yes, yes, there are people
on Medicaid who don't deserve to be on medicaid and
people on Medicaid who don't deserve to be on Medicaid.
There is fraud on medicaid. Frank, uh. That pool of
(24:22):
money should be available for people who need it. Come on, look, Frank.
I love your calls, man, but I took you too early.
I'm way into my newscast, so I gotta I gotta
let you go. We did six and a half minutes.
You're welcome to call this program anytime. I just want
to have a conversation with you so I better understand
you and you better understand me.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And that's the truth.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Okay, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Thank you, Frank, appreciate your call. We'll be back on
Night's Side right after this. I got one line at
six one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty. I
got a couple at six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. Now I have none at two, five, four
to ten thirty. Lines are full six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. That will get you through.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Have at it. Let's go.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I mentioned last hour that in not last hour, last
half hour that.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
In February of twenty nineteen, I was on MSNBC. I
was in a conversation with one of the MSNBC anchors
and a talk show host, a gentleman from Los Angeles,
and I was asked about who would likely be the
(25:42):
Democratic ticket in twenty twenty. Now that's a year and
a half, nearly two years before the election, and Rob
has found this reaction I had, and it almost as
if I'm prescient. But Rob, if you would play that,
this is Dan Ray on February first, twenty nineteen, predicting
(26:04):
the Democratic ticket of twenty twenty.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
It seems Dan, the president does agree with you on
Kamala Harris. He said, I would say the best opening
so far would be Kamala. He actually pronounced her name Camilla,
by the way, so he made them the same mistake
I did about you, Dan Harris. A better crowd, he said,
better crowd, better enthusiasm. Some of the others were very flat.
What do you make, Dan, of the President's enthusiasm for
(26:27):
Kamala Harris?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Sure, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I think he's being very respectful, as he should be.
I think She's a compelling figure. She comes from a
big state. Donald Trump would love to run against Elizabeth Warren.
His nightmare ticket, I think at this point would be
Joe Biden with Kamala Harris as a vice presidential candidate.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It was his nightmare.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Ticket because that was the ticket that ran, and that
was the ticket that beat Donald Trump in twenty twenty.
I know that some of you in the audience will
disagree with me on that, but that was my prediction
and it was his nightmare ticket. And I was asked
in October of twenty twenty, when speaking to the Worcester
Chamber of Commerce, who would win the race in twenty twenty,
(27:08):
and I predicted Joe Biden. Oh, let me go to
Bob in California. Hey, Bob, welcome back. You know Senator
Harris pretty well out there. Do you think she's got
a shot in twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Dan, Let me answer it this way, and I think
obviously you know, but the collars should know too. I'm
originally from Boston, yep, Okay, So my answer would be
that yes, Kamala has a chance, absolutely, and she has
a chance about equal to the chance of the New
England Patriots. Winning the super Bowl this year.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
That's faint praise. How are you tonight, Bob.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I'm doing okay, Dan, thank you. And the other thing,
I'm scratching my head, like hearing you talk about this
book and thinking what other than her trying to make money. Okay,
that's fine, but nobody's going to read that book and say, gee,
she's playing the victim. It's everybody's fault but hers that
she didn't win. So I guess I need to vote
(28:10):
for her next time because everybody's fault with hers. You know,
I don't. I'm stressing my head. Okay, I mean, look,
it's on her. She needs to look in the mirror
like any candidate. Okay, she failed, period, she failed. She
was not relatable to mainstream Americans. Okay, Donald Trump say what,
(28:30):
you will go to her bad and you know I'm
in the middle. But Donald Trump is a hell of
a salesman and he said what a lot of people
wanted to hear. And he still says that she has
no idea and the Democrats don't need it. They're more
focused on unisex bathrooms and transgender rights than they are
concerned for working Americans. Their priorities are so off target
(28:55):
that they're going to blow another election if they're not careful.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, I think they are captured by the.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Progressives in the party in that if they speak out,
as Member Seth Moulten talked about, uh not looking forward
to having he has two young daughters, UH playing in
high school against transgender males and and he was he
(29:27):
was excoriated by the left of the Democratic Party. So
it's almost like there's a litmus test that you have
to pass to become the Democratic nominee. And once you
have pledged to that litmus test, you're almost unelectable in
a in a general election.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Well, for those of you that listen to your show
that there are millions of people that do, I think
that they would agree with me. And you look at
you summed it up very well in my opinion, months ago,
when you're talking about the left wing wacker doodles in
the right wing wacker doodles, the wacker doodles on both sides,
(30:06):
they don't I mean the wacker doodles on the right. Basically,
they now are steamrolling anybody that criticizes Kirk gets fired. Okay,
when did where did censorship come in all of a
sudden into this country. And that's the right wing wacker doodles.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Well, they weren't.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
They weren't necessarily criticizing Kirk, per se Charlie Kirk. But
they were criticizing Kimmel's comments about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Well, no, no, there's a lot of people that have
been fired because they've made critical comments about Kirk.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh, well, you're talking about you. There are teachers in schools, yes,
who who posted things about Charlie Kirk. I never met
Charlie Kirk. I don't know Charlie Kirk. You know, I've
learned a lot about him in the last two weeks,
(30:59):
you know, sadly obviously that we that we now know about.
But I think that there have been some things that
you'd never say about someone who would they die. I mean,
it's just it's common sense, it's humanity, it's it's just
human compassion that I don't care who the person is
who dies, you don't celebrate, particularly the assassination of someone.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
I mean, well, well again back to ye. And I'm
sorry I took I took the show off topic for me,
No problem, no problem again. Yes, the left and right
wing whacker doodles in her And again, anybody listening, like,
I wonder who is going to buy that book? Who
would buy it? Who would bother reading it? She's Yesterday's news.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I think I think she had a twenty million dollar advance,
so that there better be a lot of people buying
that book.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
In my opinion, I gonna I was thinking maybe one
hundred people will buy it. Okay, why did anybody buy it?
And she's Yesterday's news And I'm sorry she is a
loser with a capital L courage.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
All right, Well we can always wait for the Tim
Walls book.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah there, you know anything like that. And you people
are saying, we all we know that any loser in
anything in life, when people played the victim, they're losers.
Take responsibility for your actions.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, period. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I mean if if she had said, hey, look, I
regret that when I was asked is there anything I
would disagree and about Joe Biden and the administration, and
I said there's nothing I can think of.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Not really that I.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Was that was a mistake, you know, I mean, just
there are ways to handle it and survive, and then
there are ways to answer questions and and.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And leave with a scorched earth. Party. It's like, well,
if you're at a party and you get into an
argument with.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
The host and you you you make a scene going
out the door, and the guy asks you to leave whatever,
and and you decide to insult everybody in the door,
anybody in the room going out the door, You're not
likely going to be invited to that same party again.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I guess that is so very well put. Very thanks, buddy.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I want to ask you very very quickly, right, okay, quickly, yep,
because you were so pressing in your prediction in twenty nineteen.
Ye please, what's that term? Accommodate me and everybody listening
if you have to say, right now, this minute, who
do you think is gonna win the Super Bowl this year?
What team would you name?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm gonna go with a sentimental pick of the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Okay, there it is, everybody, Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
We'll see if I'm right.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Rob record, Rob record this conversation. Jen Ray Buffalo Bills
Temper twenty trumper twenty fourth al the Miami Game.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
A tough time last week, Thanks, Bob, talk to you soon.
Good Nay.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
We're going to a little farfield here, but that's okay.
Come on back six one, seven, two, four, ten thirty
six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Uh, let's
let's have some fun, Okay. If you want to talk
about Kamala Harris's book, if anyone out there has bought
the book, I want to hear from you. Uh, and
give me a give me a call, simple as that.
(34:09):
Give me a call six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty or six seven, coming right back on Nightside.
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Let's keep Rowlan here. Going to go to Jim down
and rain him on the South coast. Jim, you were
next on nights. I appreciate you call it in.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
Go ahead, Jim, Well, Dan, I was when I hear
about Kamala Harris and whether or not she's going to
be a candidate in the next presidential election, what the
effect is of her book to Two thoughts come to
my mind. First of all, the ghost of Richard Nixon
nineteen sixty two hangs heavy over our political memories, but
(34:51):
faded that Kamala Harris. Richard Nixon lost an election that
most people thought he should have won, and two years
later was seduced by people who were trying to promote
him for their own purposes into running for California governor
of California, I think, and he was humiliated in that
and famously said, you won't have Dick Nixon to kick around.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Brown, the father of Jerry Brown, beat Nixon in sixty two.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
You're right, and as such, I think Kamala Harris says,
you know they're trying to get me. I was defeated
for office in my town after twenty six years, and
subsequently in the years of follow people said you should
run again, you should run again, and they realized I said,
but if I ran again and lost, I'd be finished
because then two time losers. So I think I think
(35:40):
Harris has has said, well, no win. If I run
for government California and I lose and I'm done. So
I think she might very well be positioning herself for
a run in the next president's ruction. Now that said
the thought that the other thought that occurred to me
in reading the reaction to her book, and I haven't leather,
(36:00):
but I've seen the excerpts I think as you have,
where she's critical of the people she didn't pick for
Vice president. Walls got it. Ultimately, and I don't think
he was that disastrous a choice. But the point is
is that I.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Think I think, yeah, I disagree with you that I
think Tim Walls was Shapiro would have been a really
I thought significant addition to the ticket. But that's my opinion,
and you know, I don't expect you to.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Agree with him.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
The other point I want to make is that the
Democratic Party has become the Republican Party has become very
much the same in one sense, but the Democratic Party
got where it is now basically sooner because that book
and the reaction to it shows that the Democratic Party
has become a bunch of people or so in love
(36:50):
with themselves that they can't if anybody says anything negative
about them, then then they're just terrible. Oh my god.
And there's it, and it's these people can't admit that
they might have faults and flaws. And the criticisms that
I read about of the people she didn't pick, I
thought they were very valid and very truth based on
(37:10):
what I knew. And as such, I said, the Democratic
Party has become the whole wol DEEI thing and there's
all about you know who you are on paper and
Kamala Harris Pool was my point in that she was
the first affirmative Action vice president.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I don't know, maybe, I don't know. I think she
was an asset to Biden in twenty twenty, and I
think that Biden, being an older white male, had a
younger female woman. And I think that I think James
Cliburn had a role in that decision as well.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Jim. I going to try to sneak one more in here,
but I thank you.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
For your call, and.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Please keep calling the program. Okay, thank you. Cant let
me go to Pete in South Carolina. Pete, you're gonna
wrap it up first, I think, go ahead, Pete.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Okay, Dan, good to talk to you right back. As
I think I agree with you. I think that she
is uh, just putting out old hash to just make
her feel good. I don't think she's got a shot. Uh.
And plus at that time, you got aoc is eligible
(38:30):
age wise yeah, uh and some of the other squads.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
But well, yeah, you have the governor, you know, Gretchen
Whitmer of Michigan, who's who's serious that there could be
others who emerged between now and now and then you
know the the the poster for for CNN, a guy
named Harry Enton. He's their so called poster and data analyst.
(38:55):
He says that her Harris's favorability polls showed the Calm
Harris Kamala Harris is much lower than she was just
a year ago, he quoted. He's quoted as saying she's
swimming with the fishes. Not a good place to be.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, especially if you're an Italian.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Uh, good lie. I think.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That jds and is going to give anybody a run
for their money.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I think I think up until now Vances has grown
into that job. I think it's going to be dependent.
I mean, if if the Trump policies work and everybody's
feeling pretty good, the Republicans can probably win in twenty
twenty eight. If the economy goes south for whatever reason, uh,
(39:46):
it'll be an albatross around Vancers or whoever's the nominees,
then that can.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Advance for people of some sort.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Absolutely, Hey, Peter, I gotta let you run because I'm
flat out of time.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Thank you was always good to know you listen about that.
Thank thank you calling a night. Good night for the
callers in the line you called late. I'm done for
the night. Rob Brooks, thank you very much, Maria, thank
you very much. To the callers and to the listeners,
thank you very much. We're going to do a quick
nightside postgame. All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven.
That's what my pal Charlie Rays who passed fifteen years ago.
(40:17):
That's where all your pets are who have passed. They
loved you and you love them. I do believe you'll
see them again. Of a great Thursday, everybody, see again
tomorrow night on Nightside.
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